WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: OTA Observations 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.520 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:19.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.439 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.760 Ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:33.120 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:39.440 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.320 It is Wednesday, May twenty six, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen, 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.680 episode number one hundred and at eleven. Welcome to the 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.960 latest episode of The Break. We are presented by Geico, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.879 and we are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.440 at the Star. Got David Amber and uh and Nick 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.800 here with me, Yes, Nick, Nick here with me. We're 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.720 going to talk some Cowboys football. We gotta catch you 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.880 guys up on all that happened yesterday. Cowboys are starting 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.720 their OTA practices. Yesterday it was open to the media, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.319 um several players were able to talk to the media. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.480 Dave had an opportunity to talk to even more players. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.280 So we'll catch you up on all that stuff. And 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.119 then it was a very hectic day because a lot 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.440 was going on. PR should have divided things up in 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:26.240 several days. I think, but you got shot, you got 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:32.280 you got players and players players. That's a slider right 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.720 across the plate, right off the bat. We're not starting 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.679 with flashballs or I love it. I love to figure 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.280 out if if pregnant Amber is spicier than regular Amber, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.000 I think it's probably the same same. Yeah, I think 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.080 she's always been like that, so I don't know. Now 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.800 my tolerance level has gone lower. But but no, it 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.520 was just a lot. It was just a lot. You 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.160 had a week, you know, you could have spread it 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.360 out a little bit at least the interviews. That was 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.120 a lot to take in. But it was a lot 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.480 of information that we got to dissect because there are 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.160 a lot of different people that talk to a lot 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.720 of different things that were interesting. Let's start off first, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.080 and I was not just in full disclosure, I was 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.200 not able to attend practice. I had lots of other 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.720 things going on. You guys all attend to practice. So 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.680 a lot of this is gonna be me just trying 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.280 to get answers. I want to know things, and I'm 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.040 hoping our listeners out there want to know kind of 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:20.720 the same things I want to know. So I'm just 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.080 gonna throw a lot of questions at you guys about 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.520 different things. And again let's we're gonna start this by 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.920 prefacing this is OTAs like, obviously, these guys are in 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.640 shorts and T shirts and it's not the same as 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.760 what even training camp will be. The level of what 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.200 they're doing right now is not that, but just kind 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.400 of getting some general feelings of things you guys saw 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.920 and getting an understanding of maybe kind of how things 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.640 look right now. All right, So let's start first with 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.480 what I think is the most important and and fun 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.680 part of the story. Is you got your quarterback back 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.200 Dak Prescott back at practice. He's out there. Tell me 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.680 how he looked? Well? He being out there is the 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.080 most important thing. Like you said, I mean, he he 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.760 brings so much energy just just having him there. That's 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.080 what a true leader is. And there's no question about 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.080 who who the leader of the team is. And you 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.920 know when when he's not there, we all saw it 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.680 felt it in that game against the Giants. I mean 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.080 you could just kind of see how did he look. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.400 I thought, you know, he wasn't doing he wasn't one 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.440 hundred percent as far as like I don't mean he's 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.880 not one hundred percent. But I don't think that they're 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.680 like turning him loose yet. But I thought he threw 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.760 the ball well, and I just thought his presence of 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:33.880 pushing this thing to be out there, to be with 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.760 his team, that was great. Yeah. I mean, and they 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.640 didn't cut him loosey, didn't do team stuff. That's by design. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.600 It sounds like he won't do that till training camp. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.680 But yeah, I mean, everything else pales in comparison, because 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.200 he looks he looks pretty damn good to me. He 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.360 looks ready, like like shockingly, so you know, like I 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.000 kind of went into yesterday like all right, I wonder 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.360 if he'll even do anything today because he you know, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.080 he was doing stuff during the closed ota on Monday 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.400 and and he I mean he did a full I 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.280 mean he did seven on seven, He did individuals. I 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:09.760 actually I wrote about this yesterday. He actually got intercepted, 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.720 which is typically bad in practice, right, but the throw, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.760 you know, his primary reads weren't there, and he broke 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.080 out and was like running across the field like we've 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.000 seen him do so many times, and he like fired 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.880 it to cde Lamb probably twenty yards down field. But 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.359 just you know, torqued his body, threw off his foot 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.719 just doing dack stuff, and it didn't He didn't look 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.480 like a guy that had broken his ankle to me 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.200 at all. I mean, he's throwing it thirty thirty five 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.880 yards down field and good for them. I mean, he 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.560 doesn't need to do everything right now, but he looked 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:45.400 like he could. And that's amazing. On Like, that's all. Really, 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.320 I don't care about anything else. If I have that, 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:48.920 I mean, well, we'll get into the rest of it. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:54.719 It is interesting, but that's that's Numero uno for me. Well, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.760 you know again Alta is you're not full goal. But 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.279 remember when we used to talk about dag being bad 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.320 of practice and he just wasn't a Yeah, we talked 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.160 about that a lot previous years, and that was in 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.440 the case. Like he was moving there very well. And 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.080 you know those little what do you call those cushions 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.320 that they set up on the on the field and 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.960 then you kind of go over it with your feet. Um, 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.479 you could see the leg movement in the leg work 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.880 and the feet how he was moving, and he looked good, 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.840 and the arm looked good, the precision looked good, and 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:32.400 his calf's muscles they're there that he got some muscles there. No, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.360 he does not, So that's a good indicative that he 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.560 has been working out. He has been able to put 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.400 the kind of pressure and work out that muscle. Again, 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:45.520 I'm not a doctor or anything, but it looks like 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.719 these muscles have been able to work properly based on 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.800 looks of it. I saw Dak walking through our part 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.680 of the building a couple of weeks ago, and uh 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.159 and Shanny was Shannon and I and Shannon told he 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.520 stopped and he's like, man, you're looking like you look 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.520 like he lost way. You're looking thin. He's like, Noah, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.040 not really thin, but I'm definitely in shape, Like I'm 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.960 in I feel like I'm in good as shape because 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.280 I've ever been in he said. Actually, I feel right 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.560 now faster and more agile than I think i've ever 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.120 been because i think I'm just in that good at 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.480 shape right now, So you know it kind of stuff. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.599 I mean, he did look like he was more I 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.839 guess felt might be the right word. Like, he didn't 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.120 look as bulky, but he certainly looked like he was 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.240 in great shape. So I'm interested to see how he 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:27.880 looks when he's on the field and certainly when they 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.600 get to training camp and there they have him going 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.359 full go, I think, you know, I'm I'm I'm starting 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.360 to get excited about what this season can be for him. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.480 That's you know, it's I think it's natural, especially when 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.960 you've seen so many serious injuries, to be like, okay, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.120 like it's a it's a process. He's gonna he'll do 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.120 this today and like in a couple of weeks, maybe 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.440 he can do that. I got the impression he could 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.520 do everything if if he wanted to, or if they 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.560 wanted him to. Yeah, and that's day two of OTAs. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.160 So that's definitely exciting for what he could be doing 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.520 in a few months. Ye all right, let's talk about 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.440 the linebackers. I think that's probably the next topic that 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.800 a lot of people want to find out about. We 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.599 had heard that, you know, obviously, in the week before 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.279 in the rookie minicamp, Michael Parsons mentioned that he was 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.400 working at middle linebacker. So then the question became, so 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.200 what are they doing with all these linebackers? They got 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.760 so many options at this position. Did you guys see 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.760 anything or were you able to get a beat on 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.040 anything with maybe how they're going to deploy all these 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:27.160 different resources they have at that position. Not really nobody's 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.320 jumping in on that answer either. Yeah, I wanted to 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.320 see what you had to say. Well, we didn't watch 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.800 practice together, so we didn't and I I look at 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:40.200 it like and and remember, the coaches know exactly when 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.680 what day the media is out there too, so so 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.680 you know, whatever they're trying to install, this is installed 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.640 time for OTA. So I, unless I missed some things, 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.920 I thought they threw a lot of different things out there. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.000 And you also have to remember that Jalen Smith wasn't 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.400 in the team part of it because he's still limited 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.800 from his back. He was doing some things, but nothing 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.320 that had any kind of contact because he had risk surgery. Yeah, 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.040 he had surgery on his wrist, which you know. And yeah, 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.800 all these guys are on their different timelines and different 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.040 things that they're allowed to do. You know, Dak didn't 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.640 do team the tackle. Tyrn, Smith and Lyott were out 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.560 there all day, but they were held out of like 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.400 the stuff that involves contact with people. For the most part, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.120 Jalen wasn't even hitting sleds because he heard his wrist, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.640 so I get that. But he did do seven on seven. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.120 So my impression is mainly just they got they got 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.640 a million of them, and they were all they were 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.240 all it was. It was hard to keep up with, honestly. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.360 I mean, you know, Layton was in there with Jalen. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.920 Layton was in there with Keyan O'Neill. Jalen was in 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.120 there with Keyan O'Neill. I do feel like they worked 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.960 the rookies together mostly for the most part. I'm sure 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.080 that's not you know, I'm sure Michael Parsons got in 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.920 there with a vet at some point, but Parsons and 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.800 Cox were together for the most part. I feel like 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.960 that makes sense to bring him along at the same speed, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.760 don't throw him into the deepend too quickly. Whatever. But 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.080 I mean, it was mix and match all day and 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.960 that and for them, I would say the vast majority 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.720 of what we saw in terms of offense on defense 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.600 was seven on seven stuff too, where you you don't 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.920 really get to see the linebackers mixing and moving with 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.640 the defensive lines. I mean, I'm sorry if you want 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.680 me to be in here just like well, but Michael 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.719 was screaming off the edge as like a designated pass rush. No, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.920 it didn't that didn't happen, but we did get to 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.040 see a lot of rotation between all of these different guys. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:32.160 And you know, right now, it's one thing if you're like, Okay, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.000 we've seen Rod Marinelli's defense for seven years, we know 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.640 what he's trying to do with Dan Quinn. We don't 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.360 really know that. We don't. This is the first practice 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.480 we've really seen with him, I guess the rookie minicamp, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.880 But so you don't. You still don't have a good 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.960 idea of what he's thinking of a guy like Kean 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.640 O'Neill and what he's thinking with Jalen Smith and Parsons 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.600 and all that. So, um, you know, it's it's fun 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.400 to watch, but I mean we still I mean, jury 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:05.160 is still out on what's going to happen with these guys. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:11.000 I'm just I hate I hate myself because I'm trying 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.720 to be I am trying to be nice. No, But 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.840 you know what something I can say is with makeup 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.160 Arsons and I know it's a very small scale, but 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.720 to me, the very small little taste that we got 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.360 to see, he looked good. And to me, he looked 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.040 like he'd belonging there. He had the instincts and the 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.760 movements in there compared to I don't know, some veteran 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:39.000 that just doesn't look like wow, like doesn't look Jalen 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.760 doesn't look good right now? He doesn't, he does. He looked, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.640 he looked. I don't know if it's I hate to 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.280 say it's because of his surgery or wrist or whatever, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.280 but he did not look as fluid as as he 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.000 has looked in the path. And I know in the 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.280 path he hasn't been looked looked at it, So he looked. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.040 He looked less fluid, because that's one of the things 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.160 I've thought he's gotten here. That's one of the things 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.920 that always looked odd to me, Like he he always 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.520 looks like if you look at the top partist body. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.200 I think he was saying this to me yesterday, Amber, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.880 you look at top part of his body, he looked 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.880 he's working really really really hard, right but you look 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.760 at his legs, and his legs are kind of just 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.520 kind of plodding along a little bit, all right. It 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.360 just looks weird, and I think any everybody should. I've 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.319 been very critical of Jalen Smith, but this seems extreme 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.800 to me. Like and again, like the go watch the 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.560 tape from last year. It's all there. I get it, 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.360 but like this is an ota, it's an install. It 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.079 just right. And I was about to say, like, I 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.600 hope everybody out there looked fluid in shorts and jerseys, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.720 and then again it's it's not even a training camp 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.440 practice where you're thudding up, like the whole thing is like, Okay, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.360 this is what we're gonna run. This is the key. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.880 And everybody on defense you see it time and time again, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:50.840 like they flow to the ball carrier and then they 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.760 always do that kind of thing like a sprinter where 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.720 they throw their arms up like they're not actually gonna 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.040 hit anybody, so you're not there's no contact whatsoever. It's 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.920 literally just didn't react to what's happening and tried exactly 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.120 and the read and react wasn't there to begin with, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:09.679 in my opinion, And that's actice four year veteran. You 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.880 got four year Jalen's been here. Jal's been playing since seventeen, 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:17.880 so well, he's a veteran. He's a guy that to me, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.560 it just like he should not have looked that way. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.280 And I'm not trying to compare him to Parsons at all, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.280 you know, different guys whatever, But at the same time, 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.080 it was refreshing to see and it just gave me. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.520 It made me feel better about the draft pick selection 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.839 and the Cowboys making that pick and me thinking that. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.240 And again it's very early, like Dave said, this is 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.440 Joe just OTAs, and you're basing you're creating an opinion 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.959 based on very little things. But from what I watched, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.320 I just feel a lot better. And it makes me 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.320 think that this guy Parsons, he's going to be a 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.160 good player for the Cowboys, and he's going to be 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.560 able to really help and do the kind of job 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.040 that the Cowboys are needing a linebacker to do. I 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.760 just laughing because I'm thinking, like, he looked like Romo 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.080 out there. That's what hed like he did. We'll save 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.640 that conversation, Romo, we have that conversation. There are some 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.320 guys that really jumped out to me. Yes, and we'll 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.240 talk about it. But that's mainly because of low expect 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.440 and you're like, WHOA, like this guy that isn't really 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.960 on anybody's radar, Like he's making some plus some plays, okay, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.920 But like I I thought, Michael Parsons and Jalen Smith 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.880 looked basically exactly the same. They were doing the same stuff, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:34.160 Like really, I mean, just they're running everybody different. Note 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.199 that I get that, but but again, the kind of 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.640 things that that Amber's talking about you should be able 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.880 to see in shorts, like the fluidity and the the 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.360 ability to be agile and change direction and move like, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:46.800 those are things you should be able to see in shorts. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.760 And to sound like she's saying she saw something different 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:53.840 than I paid attentions to the whole linebacker fair, I 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.000 don't know, and I don't know. I'm I don't think 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.240 I'm imagining things, and I trust your knowledge. They for 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.600 sure you watch, but that's fair. I'm for sure I 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.880 would watch those two guys. I'm just pidding the young 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.600 people gets each other because I like to see the Yeah, 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:14.679 I don't. I don't like this. We're supposed to be united. Yeah, 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.520 so I'd like to see the young everyone, I guess. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.040 And that's I mean. And if yeah, i'm you, probably 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.680 I was. I watched. I tried to watch everybody. Maybe 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.560 I didn't. But that goes back to the whole thing 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.800 of like we fall into these off season traps where 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.160 it's like why you know, he looks so great at 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.000 training camp. Why wasn't he any good? And it's like 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.480 I refuse to sit here after one day of OTAs 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.600 and be like jayl and didn't look good, especially there's 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.160 nothing else to talk about, especially when whoever has told 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.320 him he's limited. I mean he's he's limited in physical 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.280 contact and maybe he's limited and maybe mentally he's like, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.920 all right, I mean I'm not going one hu. I 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.880 can't do what I do and hit, which by the way, 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.880 might be what they want from him right now, so 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.240 it's unfair a little bit. But but but he you know, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.840 we'll see. I mean, he's a he's a lightning rod. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.000 I mean everyone everyone's talking about him, number all that 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.880 kind of stuff, and you know, they just want him 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.920 to be better. Just be a better football player. That's 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.320 what everybody wants. And I guess that's probably my thing 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.600 is and it's nothing against you, but like day one 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.080 of OTAs where like Jalen still looks like crap, and 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.840 then everybody hears that and it's like, well, see, well 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.760 what are we doing here. It's like, let's not overreact 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.960 to one day. I will say this and this is 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.600 gonna be a question. I'm not asking you guys this 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.920 question right now. I think I've asked a couple of 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.080 you this question over the last day. But this is 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:37.960 a question I think we're going to ask in training 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.360 camp a lot, and certainly once we get to the season, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.240 is how many linebackers on this team will be better 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.480 at specific roles than Jalen, which will limit the amount 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.400 of snaps he's gonna get when you start thinking about 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.840 who are your best base linebackers, who are your best 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.520 two linebackers that you want to have out there in 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.280 nicol who are your best coverage linebacker, who's your best 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.920 linebacker that maybe you want to use. When you start 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.920 looking at all those different roles that you can come 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.440 up with for linebackers, I just wonder, I'm wondering aloud, like, 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.920 how many of the linebackers that are currently on this 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.600 team will be better at each of those roles, Which 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.920 means you start finding finding ways to not have Jalen 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.800 on the field because other people are just better than 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.840 him in those roles. That's going to be an interesting 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.240 question that they will have to answer throughout training camp 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.120 and heading into the season this year. Let's talk real quickly, 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.200 about the offensive tackles. I know Dave, he said that 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:31.440 they weren't doing everything, but justin how they looked moving around. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.840 Obviously both of them coming off of injury surgeries last year. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.920 What do you guys see from the offensive tackles? For me, 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.200 my baseline is like, what are you doing at the 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.400 start of OTAs because and you know we we'll get 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.080 into this with the monte Kazee as well, Like he 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.760 had a full day of reps and like not a 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.680 lot of people were expecting that. People you're coming off 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.160 a serious very silly you know, there are people thinking 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.520 like maybe this guy's a pop consideration, maybe he's not 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.240 ready for the start of camp, and he was. That's 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.360 huge that he's able to participate. And the same thing 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.760 goes for Tyrn and Lyle. These are serious injuries that 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.240 require big surgeries. And no, I mean they you know, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.920 they're not going to go out there and pancake people 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.560 on day one. But they did team stretch. They disappeared 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.840 for twenty minutes, probably to get treatment, and then they 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.800 came back out and they were with the O line. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.560 They did seven on seven, most of it on air 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.320 where they're just dropping in their stances and you know, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.760 getting familiar. Yeah. But again, the fact that they're able 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.160 to do that on the you know, first week of OTAs, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.960 that's huge because in my brain, and I'm not saying 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.240 that's necessarily one hundred percent right, but in my brain, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.000 I'm like, all right, if you're participating at the start 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.760 of OTAs, I assume you'll be ready for training camp. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.720 That's just that's my thought process. Yeah. I mean, I 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.080 feel like at times they're sort of joint at the hip, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.160 you know, because they kind of do things together, Lyle 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.400 and Tyron. You know that they were running out there 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.840 together midway through practice and then first team your reps 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:55.040 and then boom there they both are. But I feel like, 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.040 and obviously that's not the case when it comes to 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:01.919 their rehab, but I feel like, tyring Um, if I 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.520 don't see him until the Tampa Bay game, I'm okay 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.760 with that. I know he needs his reps and all that, 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.440 but I'd rather not do anything that's gonna cause that's 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.400 gonna trigger this because he's gonna have Does that include practice? 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.720 You don't necessarily want to see him in one a 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:21.560 little bit, get the bowlers out with him, with him specifically, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.680 because I know it's just a it's a I don't 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.440 have a lot of time with him, He's gonna have 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.119 some issues, and I would hate that he that he 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.359 gets banged up trying to trying to block an eager 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.520 Terrell bash him around the edge in Oxnard and he's 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.480 he's out three weeks, which goes into the season. I mean, 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.439 I when he when it's time to play, he'll be 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.840 ready to play. But does it bother you that maybe 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.240 because he hasn't played in so long and he's coming 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.719 back from that injury. If you don't give him that time, 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.080 then he still is operating at a bit of a 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.120 deficit when you're getting out of game speed and in games. Yeah, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.760 I get your Arizona. He knows what he's doing. Arizona 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.960 preseason and jj W, can you please go up and 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.879 go up against them for a little bit, give him 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.840 some repsol get out of there. Okay, we do want 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.160 to see some reps. And I definitely think during training camp, 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.199 I think you want to ease him in and let 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.399 him do some stuff because I don't want him the 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.520 first time he's really doing anything being a game situation. Well, 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.720 i'll tell you this too. If he's not practicing a lot, 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.240 and I know you got to get tired. Lyle in there. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.520 I want Lyle on the left side too. I want 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.240 him some left left tackle reps because if something happens 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.919 in the season I feel much better about him at 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.840 left tackle than I did. You know now, I don't 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.920 know in Secy. I guess could be out there. I 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.840 don't know if he's played both. He probably adds if 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.439