1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: a sibling. Railvalry. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 4: No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your mouth, revelry. 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: That's good. So I'm alone in my house. Kids are 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: gone to school. My wife is at Target. She loves Target. 9 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean she really loves Target, like really loves it. 10 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: She seems to be at Target more than she's at 11 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: our house. So anytime I see her getting ready and 12 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: putting her sunglasses on and you know, getting her purse, 13 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm like Target, and she's like, yeah, Target. I think 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: it's just a one stop shop for her. She can 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: literally get groceries and a dress for going out, all 16 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: on the same stop. But here's what I love about 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: my wife. She looks amazing. Number one, she's beautiful, she's 18 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: fifty one, still so sexy. She's just an amazing human being. 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: Number one. But she's so frugal in the best way. 20 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: And this is why this is part of the reason 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: I love her. She will go to Target and find 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: a dress and then she'll tailor it so the dress 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: will be like thirteen ninety nine, and then she'll tailor it, 24 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: and then we'll go out to some sort of an 25 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: event and everyone's like, oh my god, what is that dress? 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: You look amazing? And it's always target like that's her thing. 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: So she does very well there. Right now, my kid 28 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: is going on a trip, sort of a camping trip 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: with the school, and she is there sort of getting 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: mini things like me, need toothpaste, many soaps, many this. 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: So ill had to say, I'm alone in my house 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: and it's always nice. It's always nice. It's quiet. There's 33 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: not a thousand kids running around screaming at you, asking 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: you for things, making fun of you, dissing you, telling 35 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: you that you're not good enough. My oldest telling is saying, 36 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: oh I could beat you up. I'm like, dude, you 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: can't beat me up. Well try try, let's go. I'm like, 38 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go. I'm not going to kick 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: your ass right now. I'm your father. You know you 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: don't have any So I'm alone and it's nice. It's beautiful. Today. 41 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: I got a guest today, I got a guest who 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: I've known for a minute. You know, I think we 43 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: met in Colorado. She came up to me because I 44 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: think I was looking particularly handsome that day. The Hudson 45 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: Express was like full steam, probably wearing some kind of 46 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: like a dope cowboy hat, maybe some kind of a 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: ranch shirt. Where I was walking this line of like 48 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: sophisticated cowboy, you know, where it was like, wow, he 49 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: looks polished, but still rough around the edges, you know. 50 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: I think I hit exactly what I was going for. 51 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: And I didn't have any spurs on or anything like that. 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: But I walked into this place called Kimasabi, and I 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: think I think I made an impression on this guest. 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: And her name is Teddy Mellencamp and she's she's John's daughter. 55 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: She's a real housewife. She's but she's more than that, 56 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Lots to talk about, and 57 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: let's uh, let's bring her on. Let's bring her on. 58 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: I hope hopefully she praises me and talks about how 59 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: cool I am and how handsome I am, because yeah, 60 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: I need that, I need it. I need the ego 61 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: to be pumped a little bit. Anyway, Let's bring Teddy 62 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: on and if she does and tell me how handsome 63 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: I am. Within the first five minutes, she's gone, we're 64 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: clicking her off. 65 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: Oh so you're going to click me off? 66 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: Oh shit, she's been listening to this. 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: Well, so it is now a good time or is 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: it going to make it awkward to tell you that 69 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: back in the day, not anymore. Sorry, no offense. The 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: liar that you were my hall pass? 71 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: Really yeah? 72 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: Wow, So that's why I came up to you and 73 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: asked him because my husband was like, your hall pass 74 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: is here now it's gotten too real. 75 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: So it had to be so wait a minute, wait 76 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: a minute, but why did this have to change? What happened? 77 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: I mean, did I get older? I mean I've done 78 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: I've done a little botox and filler to try to 79 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: keep keep up. 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: You know, facial hair was a problem for me. 81 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 82 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: Facial I know, I just I can't it's just it's gone. 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember the movie that you were in 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: that what we were all the most You played a douchebag. 85 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: It was like in the nineties, and like you were 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: like sleek, like. 87 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 5: That was that was our Oh so you like so 88 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: that's your style of man, more sort of refined, buttoned up, 89 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 5: kind of shaven. 90 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, really. 91 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when my husband gets all like wooly mammoth, 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, we need to reel it in. 93 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So, so like Brazilian wax, I'm fine. 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: With a manscaping. I would appreciate a manscaping, especially if 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: you want like all the things like that, all. 96 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: The things things need to be Yes, but what about 97 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: a Brazilian wax? What about full on Brazilian which, by 98 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: the way, I've done three times. 99 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Well, do you do bleaching? 100 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: No? No, I think that takes it too far. 101 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: That's too far. 102 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: Well I imagine if I bleached my asshole. I mean, 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm down to do a lot of crazy things, but 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: that sounds a little nuts, you know. I mean. But 105 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: I I was with my wife and she was getting 106 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: she was I was out running ears with her and 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: she was getting you know, waxed, and I went with her. 108 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: And it was this like seventy eight year old Italian 109 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: woman who barely spoke English who did her waxing, and 110 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: she was just so hysterical and amazing, and Aaron's like, 111 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: you do it. I'm like, all right, let's go. 112 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: I really did do it? 113 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: Oh I did it? Yeah? I pictures and video of 114 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: it because it was hysterical. She I was like, should 115 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: I get maybe a hand towel to put over myself? 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: She's like, nah, he's the guy. It's okay, And. 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: Like, I want manscape, but I don't want I don't 118 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: want to see it happening. I don't want to know 119 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: when it. 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: Be funny, when it be endearing in some kind of 121 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: a way, to watch your man sort of go through 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: this pain. 123 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: Yes, because I think it is an incredibly painful thing 124 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: that we're forced to do. 125 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: Yes, but you know what the best part of this 126 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: was well, along with all of sort of the added 127 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: treats that come along with being completely smooth, you know, 128 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: which definitely is nice, right Entice. I liked it. It 129 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: was great. It felt good. The grow back was okay, 130 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: but no, no, everything was good. The best part of it, though, 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: was she took a liking to me. And the next 132 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: time Aaron went, she comes back home with a full 133 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: tray of lasagna that she had made me. She goes, 134 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: she she went to go get wax. Aaron's like, she 135 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: brought a huge plate tray of lasagna for you because 136 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: you told her that you love Lazania. 137 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: So she so, yeah, I need to keep going to her. 138 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: I know, so I got you know, a smooth ass 139 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: hole and everything else and Anne Lasagna. So it's that's 140 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: hard to beat, you know what. 141 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: That's that's more than most people will do. 142 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: Well, next time I see you, I will be extremely 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: clean shaven. I'll have my hair slick back. I'll look 144 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: like Gordon Gecko or something. 145 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I mean, that's that's more of what. 146 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: And then maybe you could come back into the rotation 147 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: of Hall Pass. But you got you got movie. 148 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: There's someone new there who can you say? You can say? 149 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that I can really say, 150 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: because like I don't want to make him feel like 151 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: he has a chance because he goes his kid goes 152 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: to my kid's school. Oh, so, like sometimes I'll see 153 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: him in the job. I didn't tell Edwin and I 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: saw this because I didn't want him to think that 155 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: there is a not that I have a shot. 156 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: But I see him. 157 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes in a Yeah, do you think he noticed me 158 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: like looking racheful? 159 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so funny. But let me ask 160 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: you a question about the hall Pass situation, because you know, 161 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: obviously it's always a fun game to play. You know, 162 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: Aaron has a hall pass, like but a real one, 163 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: like for real, like if if, if, for whatever reason, 164 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: she had the opportunity to sleep with Brad Pitt, who's sixty, right. 165 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: I love that you pointed that out. How old are you? 166 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: Forty seven? 167 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: Okay, young forty seven, young. 168 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: Forty seven without a doubt, especially without facial hair, I 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: look twenty eight. Yeah, but uh and I only say 170 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: sixty because he's still like hot shit, you know, Brad 171 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: Pitt is the man I said, if that, if you 172 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: ever had that chance, I would let you do it, 173 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: like one hundred percent for real. I'm not kidding. I 174 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't have a jealousy. I wouldn't not at all, Like 175 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: you go, go go for it. So is the hall 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: pass a real thing or is this just sort of 177 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: a fun kind of couply thing. 178 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, I can give you a story. So back when 179 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: I first started dating my husband, so whatever, fifteen years ago, 180 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: sixteen years ago, the guy origin my original it wasn't 181 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: a hall pass. My original crush was Enrique Iglesias. He's 182 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: gone as well now too. He's still wearing the same 183 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: outfits and I can't there's still like the chain and 184 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: the hat, and I'm like no, you've done. You're out. 185 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: Okay, I got it. 186 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: But we saw him out, and him and Wilmer Valderrama 187 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: like came to get me from like the vip like 188 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: they were in the VIPR. I was in like the 189 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: general admission like whatever, and they're like, you want to 190 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: come back here? And Edwin's like, you can go. You 191 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 3: could go because I thought Enrique was hot, and I 192 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: was like, I'm not going. That is psycho behavior. You 193 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: should have gone. And that night we got home and 194 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: he's like, you know, if I got the opportunity with 195 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: Kate Beckhensell, I probably would have taken it. So you 196 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: just lost your opportunity and now that time has passed. 197 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: Uh okay. So so it. 198 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: Never happened, And I don't know that I would actually 199 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: want it to happen. But would you be okay if 200 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: your wife were to accept her. 201 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: Hall pass with Brad pay Yeah? 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 203 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: But would I mean, but. 204 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: She would she be okay with you? 205 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: No? I don't even know what my hall passed, you know, 206 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. 207 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: You know. 208 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: I think Dua Lipa was my latest. I think she's 209 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: just talented, and you know, I think she's just sexy 210 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: but no, I mean probably not. 211 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: Probably love the Barbie soundtrack. So you're like, I'm gonna go. 212 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: I didn't see Barbie. I still haven't seen Barbie. No, 213 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: I know it's bad. It's bad. Well, I like how this. 214 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: I like how this intro. You know, because we've established 215 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: a few things in this short period of time that 216 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: I am no longer your guy except when I was 217 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: maybe twenty four years old playing a character. You do 218 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: not like men with beards. You like a manscaped guy. 219 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: I like clean cut, no chest hair, not. 220 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: Completely bare, but I need it to be trimmed. Like 221 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: if there's a curl, I'm not happy about. 222 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: It, Okay, And what if what if you if you 223 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: have kind of a dad bod, you know what I mean? 224 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: Or do you need someone shredded? 225 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: I don't need shredded, but I need somebody that likes 226 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: to do things? 227 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: Got it? 228 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: So, like whether it's sports or exercising or whatever. 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: What about personality? Is that like eight's down on your list? 230 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: Like what's going on? 231 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: I mean no, I mean that's still that's still necessary. 232 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: But I mean I think I like somebody that can 233 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: make me laugh but also can take a joke, like 234 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: you can make fun Some people that are funny can't 235 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: can't take it back, and then that grosses me out. 236 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I'm excited to talk to you for a 237 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: million different reasons. You know, we've known each other for 238 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: a little bit now. I think we met in Colorado. 239 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: I had a fun time upstairs at Kimo Sabi having 240 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: some cocktails where your dad was sort of sitting down 241 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: holding court a bit. 242 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: My gosh, I forgot I was there with my dad. 243 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: I thought I was there with. 244 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: I feel m h, your pops are yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. 245 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: So you grew up in Indiana, correct. 246 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: I was born in Indiana, and then when my parents 247 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: got divorced, I moved to South Carolina. So like, it 248 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: was very it was very common when you were a 249 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: Midwesterner that you would have a house or something in 250 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: Indiana and then you'd go somewhere else in the summer, 251 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 3: and that place was holt Ned. 252 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: How old were you. 253 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: Third grade? 254 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: Third grade? And do you remember it? 255 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't remember, like a lot of my childhood. 256 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: I kind of blacked out, Like I feel like I 257 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: remember pictures or videos that I've seen, but I do remember, 258 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: and it was definitely something still to this day because 259 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: they did a remake of this song. But I remember 260 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 3: my mom packing up for us to leave while Tracy 261 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: Chapman was playing mmm like the original Fast Car. Like 262 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: I can still remember that day, like this is the 263 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: final straw we're going and kind of packing up our 264 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: home and like I remember that. 265 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: So that's what was playing when you guys were out, 266 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: you guys were leaving. Yeah, does that song have any 267 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: triggering effect or is it? 268 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I cannot even remember them together. 269 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: I don't have one actual and because this past year 270 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: is the first time they've been together other than my 271 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: sister or my wedding, Like when we did like a 272 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: drop off type thing, like they saw each other for 273 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: a second and I made them getting a picture together. 274 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: I was like, guys, like both of them are like, 275 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: but I don't really remember them, Like all my memories 276 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: of my childhood are separate of the two, Like I'm 277 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: either with him or with her. 278 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, And then did you have siblings at the time. 279 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have one full sibling, she's four years younger 280 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: than me. Okay, I have one older sister from my 281 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: dad's first wife, and then I have two little brothers 282 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: from my dad's third wife. 283 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: Okay, good, like a blended that's kind of what we have. 284 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: You know, did do you think the divorce like fucked 285 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: you up? 286 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: I don't think it was necessarily the divorce that fucked 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: me up. But like one thing that I say to 288 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: this day, like I have a stepdaughter, and one thing 289 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: I always say to my husband is like, please don't 290 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: ever when you're upset with Bella, don't ever call her 291 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: her mom's name, because both of my parents would do 292 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: that to me, and it would make me so mad. 293 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: Like my mom would be like okay, John, or my 294 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: dad will be like all right, little Vicky, and I 295 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: was like, fuck you, like you chose this person. I 296 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: didn't choose them, Like and now you're throwing it in 297 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: my face as a negative. But they're still my parents 298 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: and I love you both, so why are you putting 299 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: me in the situation? So those kind of things affected me. 300 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: And you know, essentially, if I didn't have a sport 301 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: or something that I really cared about, I think I 302 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: probably would have been slightly more fucked up. 303 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: Right right right right, No, I know, because you just 304 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: never know how it's going to catch you, you know. 305 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: I mean when you're that young in third grade, you know, 306 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: you're loocid enough, you're clear enough to sort of maybe 307 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: understand what's going on, but you don't quite understand or 308 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: can process how that might affect you in your life 309 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: as far as what you become, your decisions and your relationships, 310 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: whatever insecurities you might have self esteem issues, and then 311 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: they kind of rear their heads. And I'm only speaking 312 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: just from experience, you know, because I'm sort of a 313 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: product of divorce. And at the time you're like, oh, 314 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: things are fine, Like everything's fine. But as you sort 315 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: of move further along in your life and you come 316 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: upon these obstacles and these roadblocks where you're like, holy shit, 317 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: why am I feeling this way? Or why can't I 318 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: feel that way? And then you come to realize, oh, well, 319 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: you know there's been issues that have been gone unresolved, 320 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, that need to be resolved, and I think there. 321 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: Is something about it, and correct me if I'm wrong. 322 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: When it comes to your experience, but when you do 323 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: rotate between you know, different parents, is like this sense 324 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: of needing approval from both people and like appeasing the 325 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: parent that might be upset or wanting to be all 326 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: the things so that you make that parent extra happy, 327 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: Like I still catch myself I'm forty two now doing that, 328 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: like when it like hey Teddy, are you coming for Thanksgiving? 329 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: Or Chris, you know whatever it may be in that 330 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: like panic, But what about mom? What about dad? What 331 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: about Like how am I going to manage this still 332 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 3: as an adult? And also be like I have my 333 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: own life too, Like you're welcome to come to me. 334 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah right exactly, I. 335 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: Actually can house us all, like let's go come. 336 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: On, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know. And where 337 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: was your dad? Was he like in this the payday 338 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: of his career, like when all this shit was going down, 339 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like how did you deal 340 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: with him on being on the road and you know, 341 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: needing a father figure? Was he as present as he 342 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: as he wishes he was? You know? Because that shit 343 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: is real. You have to make a living. You got 344 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: to go do your thing, it's your passion. You go 345 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: play music, you go make a ton of money. But 346 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: you also have your children. So how did that work 347 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: out for you? 348 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: My parents met My dad had married his high school sweetheart. 349 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: He had my older sister, Michelle, and then he was 350 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: he came out here because it was back in the time, 351 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: like I mean, this is when he was Johnny Couger, 352 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: so where record companies essentially curated your image and you 353 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: had this name and it was like that, you know, 354 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: he wores chaps and it was like all these things. 355 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 3: But he came out to La and it was one 356 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: of those dinners where the management company is like, all right, 357 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: bring cute girls, like we're gonna whatever. And my mom 358 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 3: was one of those girls. I think my mom was 359 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: like nineteen years old or what eighteen or nineteen years old, 360 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: and they immediately had like a connection. And when my 361 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: mom went back to like she drove her like VW 362 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: bus or whatever it was, to Indiana, she got pregnant 363 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: with me before they got married. And I think, I 364 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: just think so much that year nineteen eighty one, the 365 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: year I was born, was the year of his first 366 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: big hit. So the way our life changed from when 367 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: I was born, Like I see the pictures of our 368 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: very first house two you know, a couple of years later, 369 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell happened? But like my mom 370 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: and dad are Jack and Diane like that song yeah 371 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: in that video, Yeah for the one second on Chili 372 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: Dog so it's like our life really changed, and then 373 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: a lot of my life became pretending that I didn't 374 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: think it was a big. 375 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: Deal interesting, So it kind of like whatever, it's it's 376 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: just just what it is, Like, what. 377 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 3: Does your dad do? I mean, there's nothing, you know whatever? 378 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: Is that a defense mechanism, you think? Because I want 379 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: I wanted nothing to do with with not not my parents, 380 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: but I didn't want anyone to know who my parents were. Yeah, 381 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: I was like I wanted to sort of exist on 382 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: my own, you. 383 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: Know, And that's everybody's favorite insult is to be like, 384 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: well this happened because you're so and so's kid or 385 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: this or whatever it may be. Like I would remember 386 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: like they'd come in to watch me, like play volleyball, 387 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: and like my dad would walk in with like his 388 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: supermodel wife, and like everyone would be like and I 389 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: just remember that feeling of like sheer panic, like oh, 390 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: you've outed you exist. But I mean I think he 391 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: was always a you know, he always tried his best. 392 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: Do I think that we're in a way better place 393 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: now than when I was a kid, Yes, But also 394 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: because I mean I didn't really understand the important of 395 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: a relationship with my parents when I was a kid, 396 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: like around eighth grade, when I started like having friends 397 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: and things were important, like social events, I would choose 398 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: like my friends or riding horses, overseeing my parents, like 399 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: overflying to my dad's Like it was supposed to be 400 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: like every other weekend accompanied minor flying at Indiana, and 401 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: then I just kind of stopped doing it. 402 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well understandably, you know. I mean, you get 403 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: to a certain age where and that's the time where 404 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: your friends and your social life and wanting to sort 405 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: of stay in one place becomes paramount. It's like, well, 406 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I love your dad, but like I'm over it. 407 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: I don't want to fucking go and get on a plane. 408 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: I want to like hang out with my friends. 409 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to miss out on this where really 410 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 3: Like now, looking I'm like, oh wow, those I probably 411 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: really hurt his feelings doing that. I mean, there was 412 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: there was one point we joke about this conversation because 413 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: it's probably so trum advertising. But I got mad at 414 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: him for something and he said, you know what, f you, Teddy, 415 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: I have other kids. Ooh, And we didn't talk for 416 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: a couple of years. 417 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: That's a that's a hard thing. 418 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: That's a tough We like, it was a real and 419 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: so now to this day, like you still joke, we're like, 420 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 3: remember the best couple of years of our life when 421 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: we could talk. 422 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: How old were you when that went down? 423 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: I think I was like sixteen, Yeah, But by the 424 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: time I was like graduated high school, like end of seventeen, 425 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: like it was like a year and a half or 426 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: whatever it was. I was moving to LA, I wanted 427 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: to be an actress, all of these things. I remember 428 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: his rep or his manager whomever calling me and saying, 429 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: will you be on behind the music? And I was like, well, 430 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: if he calls me and we can have a conversation, 431 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: then yeah. But we were both so stubborn that I mean, 432 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: and were very similar when you when you actually have 433 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 3: us in a room together, that is like shit, like 434 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: we're crotchety and particular and all of those same you know, 435 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 3: we have the same qualities. But once, once we had 436 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: the conversation, both of us were like, Okay, maybe maybe 437 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: we took it a little too far. 438 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, feelings can get hurt, but at the same time, 439 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: you kind of have to step outside of yourself and 440 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: look at the big picture, you know, where he sounds 441 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: as crazy as it sounds. That's coming from a place 442 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: of pain and hurt and frustration and love in a 443 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: weird way, because he just probably wanted to be with you. 444 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: I was rejecting you. 445 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, rejecting him. Instead of being like, all right, 446 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 2: you know you're seventeen. I'm not taking this personally. I 447 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: know you love me, you just want to be with 448 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: your homies or whatever. Instead, it's like, well, fuck off. 449 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: And I totally get that because as a dad, I 450 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 2: have to hold back sometimes when I get rejected by 451 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: my children, which happens all the time, and my sixteen 452 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 2: year old all the time, all the time, and I 453 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: just want to be like I got you know. I 454 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: asked him to go on like a fishing trip with 455 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: me to Alaska, you know, possibly this summer, to have 456 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: like a you know, one on one type of trip. 457 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: And he's like, oh god, really, you know, bring a friend? Yeah? 458 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: Like like like what, like I'd rather be like here. 459 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, this is a memory we might make together. 460 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: You know, you're sixteen. It's going to be fun. And 461 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: it's just rejection, rejection, And yeah. 462 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: I knew he was really he was stricter than my mom. Yeah, 463 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: so like I also knew going there was like I 464 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: probably couldn't smoke sicks. Yeah like whatever, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 465 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 3: there are more rules in place. 466 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: Or they're interesting. Yeah, as someone who sort of lived 467 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: a rock star kind of lifestyle, maybe he saw what 468 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: was on the road sinking. 469 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: Well, he never drank, like or anything drank growing up, 470 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: like he said, I was right, Yeah, so he it 471 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily that he was sober. He was just like 472 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: when I was young, I would drink and get in fights, 473 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: and I knew that drinking wasn't for me, so I don't. 474 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: I've never seen him have a drink. 475 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, they's still smoking. 476 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 4: Huh. 477 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. My brother tried even start back in the day 478 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: when like Facebook was it thing, you know, or my 479 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 3: Space or whatever, like a million people follow this. My 480 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 3: dad has to quit smoking. So he didn't get to 481 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: a million. 482 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So you came to La to be 483 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: an actor and to be in the in the movie business, 484 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: right and were you here all alone or did you 485 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: come with friends. 486 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: I came out here by myself. Like my rule, my 487 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: parents rules for me. This is something they agreed on. 488 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: They're like, listen, if you don't you know you got 489 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: into college. If you're not going to go to college, 490 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: like will help send you out there, but then you 491 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: have to like figure it out after that. So they like, 492 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: help me pack up my Jetta and come out here. 493 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: And I started at CIA in the mailroom. 494 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: You did, Yeah, I did too, You did. Yeah, I work. 495 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: I got expelled from high school and eleventh grade and 496 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: went to like some weird, little shitty school for half 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: the day and then the rest. In the second half 498 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: the day, I worked in the mailroom. 499 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 500 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: So did you serve ice cream? 501 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: Served ice cream? 502 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 4: Oh? 503 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I did that. And then I was 504 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: a hostess at Mister Chow and your Own Chow. I 505 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: was an acting school and it was, you know, it 506 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 3: was kind of a real wake up call. And I 507 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: lived in a studio apartment with another girl that I 508 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: met in acting school and quickly learned I wasn't going to. 509 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 2: Make it, did you though? I mean, you know, because actors, 510 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: if they're passionate about it, of course they'll they'll stick 511 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: to it until the day that they die. But at 512 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: the same point, on the same point, I always say, well, 513 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: you need to always have a backup plan, you know. 514 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: I mean, even if it is your true passion, like 515 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 2: you still have to survive and live and then realize, well, 516 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: maybe it's not working. It's a horrible pessimistic way to 517 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: look at things, and you know, but there's a reality here. 518 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: I mean, was or that moment we were like, you 519 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: know what, Donny, this isn't fucking working. Moving on, Well. 520 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: I wasn't. I would say that I didn't necessarily want 521 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: to be an actor, and this is gonna sound badly. 522 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily want to be an actor because I 523 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 3: had a passion for acting. It was more like I 524 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: was craving almost fame or like approval or a note 525 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: to ride. I don't really know what it was, but 526 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: kind of the final straw for me is I had 527 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 3: done a couple of commercials, little things, and then I 528 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: had gone out on Pilot season. So I'm working in 529 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: the mail, I'm a hostess. I got on Pilot season. 530 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: I finally like book something. I think I booked something, 531 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: like my manager calls me, is like you're in the 532 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: final thing, like they want you. And then you know, 533 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: there's like that gap, there's like that three month gap 534 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: before then you go in and you start filming yea, 535 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: and I went in for like the table read, which 536 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: I was so excited about. And that night they called 537 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: my manager and they said, Teddy has gained weight. Oh 538 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: since we auditioned her, and she either needs to lose 539 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 3: twenty pounds within the next whatever it is, we're going 540 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: to recast her. Wow, because she's too She's at this point, 541 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: she's too heavy to be right. And I at that point, 542 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 3: I honestly was like I'm done. And I said, okay, 543 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: tell them to no, thank you. I mean I had 544 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: gained a bunch of weight. I was feeling a certain 545 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: kind of way from being a big fish, you know, 546 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: like I was a very small fish in a big 547 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: pond all of a sudden, and I think I was 548 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: eating my feelings and I wasn't taking care of myself 549 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: and I was feeling down and I just got to 550 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: that place. But then once somebody said it to me, 551 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: I was like, well, then F this and f this business. 552 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: And that's you know, that's kind of where I stopped. 553 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: And how old were you when that when you were like, 554 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm done with her. 555 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, okay, and then you know I've maybe 556 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: twenty because then that's when I went to like my 557 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: boss of the mailroom and said like, Okay, I want 558 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: to go into the training program and I want to 559 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: be an agent, Like I you know, I've done, I'm 560 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: done saying I need to leave it this time to 561 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: go to this audition, like I want to get serious 562 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: about this. 563 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: And so what did your boss say? 564 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: They were like fine? And then I went for the 565 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 3: head of the mp lit department and at CAA, and 566 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: then I got coached to UTA and worked for the 567 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: head of the talent department there. And that's kind of 568 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: how my life for GREU. 569 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: And then when did it take this turn into sort 570 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: of becoming famous, being on the Housewives or you know, 571 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: like how did this all happen? 572 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I would say probably my first ten years 573 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: in LA were not like my my happiest years like 574 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: they were. It was rough. It was rough for me. 575 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: It was just I think I was kind of partying, 576 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 3: and then it was a lot of like self hate 577 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: and like trying to measure up and not going going 578 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: out and making out with everybody and like essentially just 579 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: making poor decisions. I'm lucky that I didn't like get it, 580 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't get addicted to anything like I 581 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: just was living a too hard of a life for 582 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: what I probably should have been doing. 583 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: Yes, and were you you're dating? 584 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: Just well, I ended up getting married, and not to 585 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: my husband that I'm with now, But I got married 586 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: in two thousand and six, and he was a great guy. 587 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: But it was like essentially the first guy. I was like, Wow, 588 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: he's really nice. People could treat me well, Like he 589 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: was a little bit older, and he was nice. And 590 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: we got married and on my wedding day, my dad 591 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: said to me, I know, this guy's your best friend, 592 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: but like, if you don't want to do this, you 593 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: don't have to wowow, And I was like, what are 594 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: you talking about? 595 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: You know, he knew, he knew. 596 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: We got married and within a year like that was it. 597 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: It was it. But at that time I kind of 598 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 3: fully changed my life and I was like, all right, 599 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm I'm out of the entertainment business altogether. Went back 600 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: to riding horses, did it professionally, did that for ten years, 601 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: met my husband had got pregnant, did all the you know, 602 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: went through IVF. My life life changed, and then randomly 603 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: I was I got contacted by just like somebody on 604 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: the internet, like on my Instagram because I was doing 605 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: like fitness influencing. Yeah, okay about because I changed my life, 606 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: like it was all about like. 607 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: All right, wellness changing my life. 608 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it started growing, you know. First it was 609 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: like my twelve friends, and then it started growing. Yeah, 610 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: it got to be a little bit bigger. So someone 611 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: reached out to me about doing a reality show and 612 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: I went and filmed like a day of it or whatever, 613 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: and I was like, absolutely not. So I called my 614 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: old friend from CIA, who's an agent. I said, what 615 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: do I do? I don't know if I signed something, 616 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: but like, I regret everything that just happened in these 617 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: pause forty eight hours. I don't want to be on 618 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: this show. My family would kill me, you know whatever. 619 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, i'll help you. You didn't really 620 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: sign anything that we can't get you out of. But 621 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: would you go on Real Housewives because I've been watching 622 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: your life and I think you could do it. And 623 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: I said, I've never watched it. What do you think? 624 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: And she said yeah, but would you prefer Beverly Hills 625 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: or Orange County because I know you have a house 626 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: both places? And I said, I don't know what's better. 627 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: And she said, well, you know, for your business and 628 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: your career, like Beverly Hills is a little bit more 629 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: like dialed in. And I was like, all right, that's fine. 630 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: And then that's when like the process started. 631 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: That's such an interesting decision, you know, because you obviously 632 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: know your life is going to be exposed. Did you 633 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: weigh out the pros and the cons being like, okay, 634 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: you know there's there's potential money, there's also exposure for 635 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: what I'm trying to do, and you know now unconsciously 636 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: or behind the behind your eyes, it's like, well, I 637 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: do want to be famous, Like there was a part 638 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: of me that's why I became an actor. I was 639 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: like I enjoy that that sort of attention. Attention, Yeah, 640 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: did that play into your decision or is that something 641 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: that you had kind of suppressed? 642 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: Well? I think you know, I had always my husband 643 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: and I we had always been in a position where 644 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: like I financially had my own like my own jobs. 645 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: He had He did really well for himself, but like 646 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: I always wanted to keep separate because I have like 647 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: money issues, like I just I am very like controlling 648 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: in that way like this is and I didn't have 649 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: a trust fund or any of those types of things 650 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: that everybody thought I had. So I had always worked 651 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: and I'd always been able to do whatever I wanted 652 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: because I had my own income. And then all of 653 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: a sudden, I had kids, and the power dynamic in 654 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 3: our relationship shifted because all of a sudden, now I'm 655 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: not out of horse shows and I'm not making money 656 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 3: and I am. I felt it a real like even 657 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 3: if Edwin didn't make me feel that way, I made 658 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: myself feel that way, like I don't want to ask 659 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: if I can go to sushi with my girlfriend, like 660 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: I don't want to feel this way. And so that's 661 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: when I created all In, which was my business, and 662 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: it was but I wasn't making a ton of money, 663 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: but I was making enough money I didn't have to 664 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: ask him, you know, to go get my nails done. 665 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: To explain what that is real quick. 666 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 3: So essentially, after I had I had a couple of miscarriages, 667 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: I had to go through a bunch of IVF. I 668 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 3: had struggled, you know, with my weight, but also with 669 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: postpartum anxiety and depression and that kind of stuff. And 670 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: I was always like a misery loves company person, like, 671 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: oh okay, well, let's go complain about our husband's and 672 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 3: have Margaritez and a kids playedate and like, let's just 673 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: ignore what's going on in our lives. I won't ever 674 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: be in a picture with my kids because I care 675 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: about how I look, whatever be. And then finally, without 676 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: telling anyone, I just started an Instagram and it was 677 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: called La Workout Junkie. It was a bad name, right, okay, 678 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 3: but I said, I'm going to change my life today, 679 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: follow along if you're interested. And I did it for 680 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: a year straight and never made a dollar, but I 681 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: posted everything, all my workouts, what I was eating, what 682 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: I was doing. And then people started asking me, you know, 683 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: we want to do what you're doing, but we don't 684 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 3: want to put it on social media, you know, because yeah, 685 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: people saw me shed weight, but more so people saw 686 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: my personality, Like I started becoming more confident, more comfortable 687 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: in my own skin and just living life more. 688 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: Did you con did you always consider yourself beautiful? Because 689 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: obviously you're a beautiful woman. You're a pretty woman, right, 690 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: so did you have issues with the way that you 691 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: physically looked? 692 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. This is gonna sound weird. I never felt 693 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 3: weird about the way that my face looked. I was 694 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: really mean to myself about my body, really, and then 695 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 3: what would happen is then it would affect my mental state. 696 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 3: But then I would feel almost paralyzed by that fact 697 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 3: of that anxiety, which now I know, I'm like, oh, 698 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: if I go on a run, or if I go 699 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: to hot yoga, or if I move my body in 700 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: some capacity, it's not going to make my anxiety go away, 701 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 3: but it does make it better. And then it makes 702 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: me like myself more and trust myself more instead of 703 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 3: lying to myself all the time, I'm going to change Monday, 704 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this Monday, I'm gonna do this next week. 705 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: And then it became like once my life changed, my 706 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: marriage started getting better, my life started getting better, my 707 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 3: business started growing. And that's when Housewives presented itself to me. 708 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: Oh cool, So it was almost like this the timing 709 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: of it was really cosmically perfect. 710 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I was really, you know, the first 711 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 3: two years are pretty great for me on the show, 712 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: Like I was like, hey, this is pretty good. But 713 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: then I got I got pregnant again naturally for the 714 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: first time, and doing the show pregnant was a completely 715 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: different ballgame. Oh god, this is a doozy, but I 716 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: mean it all. It all kind of worked out. But 717 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: I knew on my first meeting, like where they film 718 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: you and you're doing your kind of confessional. I told 719 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: my husband, I said, I'm going to get the job, 720 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: and he goes, how do you know? They told you 721 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 3: there's like eight rounds. I know, so, and then I 722 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 3: did will. 723 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: I want to continue this conversation and get into mental 724 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 2: health and health. I love getting to know you more 725 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: and hearing about your past. So everyone stay tuned for 726 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 2: Part two, coming out with Teddy Mallen Camp very soon