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Speaker 1: Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steer.

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Speaker 5: Today is December the twenty fourth. It's Christmas Eve. Very

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Speaker 5: Christmas everyone, It's good. In today's Top Stories, we'll dive

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Speaker 5: into the case for Saint Nicholas and the Christmas history

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Speaker 5: with an expert guest. Also, we'll look at just how

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Speaker 5: much way Christian voters carrying what ways they can shape

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Speaker 5: political out comes. And then later we'll look at the

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Speaker 5: antacdote to cynicism and reigniting love for America. And first

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Speaker 5: we start here today with border security and immigration at

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Speaker 5: the forefront of the national conversation. We're diving into a

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Speaker 5: topic that's sure to shape the next chapter of America's

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Speaker 5: story as Donald Trump prepares to take office and with

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Speaker 5: Tom Holman stepping in, as the new borders are big

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Speaker 5: changes are on the horizon. Look at American people expect

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Speaker 5: during the first one hundred days of this administration. Will

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Speaker 5: campaign promises turn into swift action. I believe they will

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Speaker 5: join me now to discuss this. It's the director of

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Speaker 5: Border Security and Immigration at the Center at Heritage Foundation,

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Speaker 5: Mariy Rice Lori reece, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: Laurie, how are you today?

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Speaker 5: Good to have you here, Appreciate your time on this

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Speaker 5: Christmas season.

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Speaker 7: I'm well and thank you Steve for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Look. Tom Homan is pulling no punches here.

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Speaker 5: Tom Holman has been very clear that this is going

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Speaker 5: to be something that happens.

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Speaker 1: On day one.

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Speaker 5: He told Trendy Aragua, you've got five weeks get your

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Speaker 5: stuff together, because you're leaving whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 5: And then you've got these horrible stories in the headlines,

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Speaker 5: this one being burned alive on.

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Speaker 1: A subway train in New York. Sydney.

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Speaker 5: This week, Las Vegas buried a deputy from the Sheriff's

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Speaker 5: department there after being hit by any illegal So we've

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Speaker 5: got these stories that are all over. This is why

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Speaker 5: it was maybe the number one issue facing voters in

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Speaker 5: November and why people want this to happen post haste.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe it's going to happen?

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Speaker 8: I do, because we saw this in twenty seventeen during

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Speaker 8: Trump's first term, also with Tom Hollman heading ICE at

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Speaker 8: the time, they quickly identified located dangerous criminals, gang members, etc.

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Speaker 7: And deported them.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, this time they've got a longer list because Joe

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Speaker 8: Biden and Kamala Harris led in at least ten million

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do need to be rude as well. What

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Speaker 5: I mean when you look at this story out of

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Speaker 5: He was deported now allegedly from Guatemala, and sometime he

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Speaker 5: the videos. He's sitting there watching the woman burn alive.

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Speaker 5: Of course, so was everybody else, and we did anything

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Speaker 1: But this is horrible. The amount of crime that's.

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Speaker 8: This is another family who's lost a loved one.

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Speaker 7: Amelia Carter was her name.

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Speaker 8: By someone who shouldn't have been here, So by all accounts,

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Speaker 8: Amelia should still be alive. This is why Americans were

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Speaker 5: Well, no matter where you go look, the national news

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Speaker 5: media can ignore this problem to a great extent. But

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Speaker 5: what happens is these stories like what happened in Las

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Speaker 1: But other stories of people that.

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Speaker 1: And that's why the sentiments so strong here.

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Speaker 5: The national news media can do their level best to

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Speaker 8: Yes, And that's why Alejandro Michris was impeached by the House. Now, unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: Senator Schumer was a coward and tabled that impeachment and

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Speaker 7: As Donald Trump is very good at.

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Speaker 8: Doing and pulling back the curtain on what Biden did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So where do you begin? That's one

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Speaker 5: There's this idea that someone is going to cost billions

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Speaker 1: Let them come through an illegal and.

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Speaker 5: Orderly process like generations have done before them. It's not

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Speaker 1: Some say it's double that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we honestly know, Laura, I don't think

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Speaker 7: No, you're right, we don't. And that's by design because.

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Speaker 8: The Left doesn't want info shared or collected or reported when.

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Speaker 7: It comes to immigration status.

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Speaker 8: Even within the Department of Homeland Security, the Left prohibits

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Speaker 7: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 8: But in terms of the costs the left hit, the

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Speaker 8: it's spent giving it to NGOs to build a very

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Speaker 7: On top of that.

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Speaker 8: You have cities and states spending billions of dollars each

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Speaker 7: Them is much less.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, the cost to deport them is much less now.

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Speaker 5: Having said that, how do we address going forward? And

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the plan is. I've heard, you know,

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Speaker 5: thirty thousand foot view from Donald Trump. Because we do

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Speaker 5: need people to come in and do seasonal work. We

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Speaker 1: Well they come back.

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Speaker 1: Roofers. I see a lot of roofers that do this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Louries, I greatly appreciate you being here. It's a

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Speaker 1: Think he's a very focused individual who's going to get

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Merry Christmas, and Merry Christmas to you. Look, this is

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Speaker 5: but they will figure it out, all right. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 5: Happy to have you here on Christmas Eve? I hope

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Speaker 5: Live right after this. Well, today we gather in the

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Speaker 1: And what a season it has been. Thank you for

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Speaker 5: As always, Christmas is a season of giving, joy and

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Speaker 5: wonder of course, all rooted in the celebration of the

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Speaker 5: birth of Jesus Christ. But how did Saint Nicholas become

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Speaker 1: Who was he?

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Speaker 5: And why did he inspire one of the most cherished

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Speaker 5: icons of the holiday seasonal Today we're embarking on a

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Speaker 5: a very special guest joining me is Bill Federer, author

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Speaker 1: William, thank you for being here. It's great to be

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Speaker 10: It's called there really is Santa Claus, the history of

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Speaker 1: Well done, Bill.

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Speaker 5: But what you've just told me is that Saint Nicholas,

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Speaker 10: Right, so there's more Greek Orthodox churches named after Nicholas

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Speaker 10: Right, and Europeans loved it. Now Martin Luther Reformation. He

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Speaker 5: But then it gets you know, I've learned some great things.

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Speaker 1: Here today, Bill, I've learned some great things here today,

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Speaker 5: I want you to tell people where they can get

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Speaker 5: the book, all right, and then that it's okay well

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Speaker 10: Well, the neat part is the Dutch. So Jesus will

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Speaker 5: Bill Federer putting a bow on this whole story of

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Speaker 5: Saint Nicholas, Santa Claus Christian origins, the Trinity. I'll never

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Speaker 5: look at the Christmas tree the same ever again, Bill, again,

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Speaker 5: real quickly, the name of the book.

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Speaker 10: It's called there really is a Santa Claus, The history

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Speaker 5: Americanminute dot com. Bill, thank you for the education. And

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Speaker 5: Mary Christmas, Thank you. Mary christ Is to all and

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Speaker 6: Laine, Well, as you know, Christian voters.

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Speaker 5: Christian voters have long been a powerful force in American politics,

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Speaker 1: But as the nation becomes more.

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Speaker 5: Politically divided in secular many are questioning whether Christian influence

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Speaker 1: Of the political conversation.

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Speaker 5: Jerman out to discuss this as Bishop Aubrey, Shine, So Aubrey,

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Speaker 5: my friend, nice to see you, and Merry Christmas, of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Merry Christmas to you too. Steve always screeping with

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Speaker 5: All right, So how do we keep Christian voters engaged?

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Speaker 5: In this conversation, I was going to say competition, And

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Speaker 5: in many ways it is. You know, all that advertising

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Speaker 5: How do you keep Christian voters engage and make sure

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Speaker 4: Well, you look at what Donald Trump has done.

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Speaker 3: They would those pastors would leave their pulpits after fighting

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Speaker 4: I think Trump is really, in my opinion, Steve tapped

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Speaker 3: The issues that impact all of us, Christian or non Christian,

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Speaker 3: And I think Steve a palethora of issues are encompassing

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Speaker 3: We want Christian values, but we don't want to participate.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a house divided. It never works.

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Speaker 3: Steve, and I think, whether it's transgender, whether it's issues

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Speaker 4: In the process.

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Speaker 3: If not, our views will never be represented the way

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Speaker 3: that we desire as Christians to become.

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Speaker 1: Now, I certainly think the pendulum is swinging back.

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Speaker 5: I see a resurgence in the sale of Bibles, for example.

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Speaker 5: I see schools and places like New York fighting to

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Speaker 5: make sure there's Bible study available to the students, which

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Speaker 5: is perfectly legal under the Constitution. Of course, despite many

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Speaker 5: decades of teaching the wrong thing about the separations of

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Speaker 5: church and state doesn't mean the destruction of Christian values.

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Speaker 5: But that's how the Democrats and the left of approach that.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry they've been wrong. Ever since this whole conversation started,

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Speaker 5: there was a resurgence in schools, in the public square,

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Speaker 5: the sale of bibles. There is hope out there, isn't there, Aubrey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is, Steve. And you may know this,

456
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Speaker 4: and maybe your audience.

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Speaker 3: I've been with you several times, even by the way,

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Speaker 3: the days of your radio show.

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Speaker 4: I was with you before there was a real America's

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Speaker 4: voice for me at least.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And if you remember, Steve, I was the only clergy

463
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Speaker 3: that Hillary Clinton put in her book by name as

464
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Speaker 3: to the reason she lost. Why it wasn't about for

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Speaker 3: me just a Republican or a Democrat. It was about policies.

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Speaker 3: It was about the issue. It was about how do

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Speaker 3: we as Christian's view issues for instance like Middle East

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Speaker 3: conflict issues. What is our position with Israel? What are

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Speaker 3: our positions with taxes? What about making sure that we

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Speaker 3: can have a position even if we don't agree with

471
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Speaker 3: taking a jab? These are basic issues that are hidden,

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, biblically, within the foundation of Christendom.

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Speaker 4: And remember, Steven, you know this.

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Speaker 3: Without a Judeo Christian ethos, there would be no United

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Speaker 3: States of America. Our country was founded upon these values.

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Speaker 3: In the words of Benjamin Franklin, it's a great republic

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Speaker 3: if we can keep it. That's why Christians must be

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Speaker 3: engaged to keep all of our values out there upfront

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Speaker 3: with representation that reflect our views. I think it works

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Speaker 3: quite well.

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Speaker 5: Let me give you the last word on this, Aubrey,

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Speaker 5: and that is obviously, come January the twentieth, a new administration. Thankfully,

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of our prayers were answered there

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Speaker 5: to say.

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Speaker 1: The least, yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: What do you think is going to happen spiritually speaking

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Speaker 5: in America when Donald Trump takes office going forward to

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Speaker 5: twenty five and beyond, I.

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Speaker 3: Think one of the things that all of us are

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Speaker 3: going to get a chance to witness is we're going

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Speaker 3: to go back to a time of peace, again, a

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Speaker 3: very Christian value to make sure that all individuals, regardless

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Speaker 3: of what you believer, don't believe as a release to

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Speaker 3: that that.

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Speaker 4: Our constitution has maintained.

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Speaker 3: That for me is the biggest thing, because if we

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Speaker 3: take away our right to have free speech, then there's

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Speaker 3: no longer going to be a Christian nation.

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Speaker 4: You would have tyrants running the asylum. And I think.

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Speaker 3: America has regurgitated that concept both with Kamala Harris and

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Speaker 3: with Barack Obama.

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Speaker 4: No, not Joe Biden. We know that he was not there.

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Speaker 3: These are policies that Americans stood up and said, Yes, Obama,

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Speaker 3: we are going to cling to both our Bible and

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Speaker 3: our guns. And that's what we're going to see in

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Speaker 3: body with President Donald J.

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Speaker 4: Trump.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely true. Allry Shines. Always appreciate seeing you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. Steve there you have it. What

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Speaker 1: a wonderful season it is.

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Speaker 5: And look, I'm hopeful for Donald Trump and the new

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Speaker 5: administration as well.

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Speaker 1: God bless America. We'll be right now.

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Speaker 5: No, welcome back to America's Voice live with Donald Trump

515
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Speaker 5: heading back to the White House now. Many Americans are

516
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Speaker 5: optimistic about the future. With Trump in office. We can

517
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Speaker 5: restore America to its former glory. That is the intention.

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Speaker 1: That's why we call it make America great Again.

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: There's a new book out today that some are calling

520
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Speaker 5: an antidote to cynicism and exactly what we need right now.

521
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Speaker 1: To reignite a love of America.

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Speaker 5: Cherish America, a new book from the former Assistant Secretary

523
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Speaker 5: of State Robert Charles. It is symbolic of the idea

524
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Speaker 5: that one life touches the lives of so many others.

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Speaker 5: This unique anthology of uplifting true stories of heroism features presidents, soldiers, astronauts, athletes,

526
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Speaker 5: and a wider array of just everyday American citizens who

527
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Speaker 5: have done extraordinary things. Here to discuss this is the

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Speaker 5: author of the book, Charles Robert. Robert Charles has excused me, Robert,

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Speaker 5: how are you hey?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you for being here, all right? You

532
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Speaker 5: told me in the break This is basically a labor

533
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Speaker 5: of love. Robert, took you six years to pull this together.

534
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Speaker 5: You read a lot of stories to say this one,

535
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Speaker 5: this one, this one to select pot. I think America

536
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 5: is so hungry for positive right now. I think this

537
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Speaker 5: book is as timely as it can possibly be.

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Speaker 9: You know, you couldn't have said it better, honestly, this book,

539
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Speaker 9: which has fifty six stories of both average Americans who've

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Speaker 9: done extraordinary things and people that you might know a

541
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Speaker 9: little something about their personal stories. I've worked for twenty

542
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Speaker 9: five years with Buzz Aldron, who actually agreed to write

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Speaker 9: the forward for the book. But it's about the love

544
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Speaker 9: of America. It is about everyday people, teachers and nurses

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Speaker 9: and law enforcement officers and veterans, who just in a

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Speaker 9: moment where they needed to have courage, they summoned it

547
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Speaker 9: and they did something truly extraordinary. And what happened is

548
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Speaker 9: these people have crossed my path over the years. I mean,

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Speaker 9: ranging broadly from you know, the first person that ever

550
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Speaker 9: gave an organ to another person in an organ transplant

551
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Speaker 9: highly successful, saved the life of his brother was my

552
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Speaker 9: eighth grade math teacher. Ironic, crazy, but true. Another close

553
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Speaker 9: friend of mine is one of the only two fully

554
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Speaker 9: armed pilots who launched on nine to eleven F sixteen

555
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Speaker 9: out of Vermont, gave chase to the planes, and then

556
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Speaker 9: thinking with him twenty years later, how did it feel

557
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Speaker 9: about all that? And what went through your mind as

558
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Speaker 9: you did that? And then you flip the page and

559
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Speaker 9: this thing goes to some people I've spent a lot

560
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Speaker 9: of time with over the years as assistant secretary for Powell.

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Speaker 1: There are very personal stories.

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Speaker 9: About what Powell thought, how he felt about the world,

563
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Speaker 9: and how he felt about people. And then there are

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Speaker 9: stories about Apollo astronauts. I mean, I said to Buzz

565
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Speaker 9: Aldrin recently. You know, Buzz, we talk about this stuff

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Speaker 9: and we do every single day of every week, almost

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Speaker 9: for twenty years and twenty five, really, and you haven't

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Speaker 9: written you know, I got to write this stuff down.

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Speaker 9: And he said, you know, Bobby, I've written enough books

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Speaker 9: in my life.

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Speaker 4: I'm done with that.

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Speaker 9: So I said, well, we're going to turn on a

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Speaker 9: tape recorder here and we're we're going to get some

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Speaker 9: of this stuff on tape, because honestly, what you did

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Speaker 9: on the moon, what you did in Gemini twelve, what

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Speaker 9: you've done with the rest of your life is relevant

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Speaker 9: to Americans. So I'll tell you this book, which has

578
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Speaker 9: some things that people don't know about Jefferson and Adams,

579
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Speaker 9: but actually lots and lots of stories about people that

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Speaker 9: you just want to realize are right here at your

581
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Speaker 9: own elbow. You don't realize you've got a hero here

582
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Speaker 9: because they don't talk about it. And these stories have

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Speaker 9: World War Two vets in them, Korean War, Vietnam era veterans.

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Speaker 9: And if you love America and you want a book

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Speaker 9: for a Christmas or you want something to lift your

586
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Speaker 9: own heart up, it's four hundred and fifty pages of gold.

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Speaker 9: You just read this and you end up at night,

588
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Speaker 9: you're going to say, you know what, Thank God, these

589
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Speaker 9: people are here, and thank God, I've got America.

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Speaker 1: I'm American.

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Speaker 5: You know again, Robert, I think America is starving for

592
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Speaker 5: positive I mean, we've been through this period of time where, yeah,

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Speaker 5: certain groups of people thought it was sporting and in

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Speaker 5: vogue to go out and slam America, slim America, rip America,

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Speaker 5: part in soult America and Americans. And you know what,

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Speaker 5: there's some great heroes out there. When you talk about

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Speaker 5: word War TI, one of the first few of.

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Speaker 1: Top's minds Dolittle and his raiders. Right there, there's there's

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Speaker 1: a guy. Did did he get a chapter?

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just sort of it just thinking maybe

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Speaker 1: he did, maybe he didn't.

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Speaker 9: But yet now General Jimmy Doolittle, who launched the famous

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Speaker 9: Doolittle read UH on Tokyo after after after the UH,

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Speaker 9: the attack on Pearl Harbor, actually was a friend of

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Speaker 9: buzz Aldrin's and his co pilot was and they of

607
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Speaker 9: course are all gone now. But you know, the spirit

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Speaker 9: of Jimmy Doolittle suffuses this book. This is the spirit

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Speaker 9: of I'll speak broadly, Jimmy Stewart in UH and it's

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Speaker 9: a wonderful life. This is the spirit of people who

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Speaker 9: UH you know, tilted windmills until they beat the windmill.

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Speaker 9: People who actually say it's an impossible thing, but I'm

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Speaker 9: going to try it anyway. In this book are people

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Speaker 9: who rescued children out of burning buildings. In this book

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Speaker 9: our teachers who who sort of undertook a mission to

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Speaker 9: educate someone and uh or save a life in some

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Speaker 9: way and actually did it. And I think one of

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Speaker 9: the most revealing things about this book. And I'm going

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Speaker 9: to tell you this because I think it makes me

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Speaker 9: tear up sometimes when I reread these interviews, you ask

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Speaker 9: yourself the question, if I really believe in this country,

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Speaker 9: if I really am the person that I say I

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Speaker 9: want to be, and I believe I am, what would

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Speaker 9: I have done in the situation where these people basically

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Speaker 9: go pedal to the metal and risk it all to

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Speaker 9: save somebody else's life, risk it all to bring home

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Speaker 9: the base.

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Speaker 1: It's a great measure, Robert, That is a great measure.

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Speaker 5: If I were in the terms of empathy, if I

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Speaker 5: put myself in somebody else's shoes, what I have done

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Speaker 5: the same thing, what I have been able to rise

632
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Speaker 5: to the occasion, And I can see where that gets emotional.

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Speaker 5: What I have had the fortitude to stand up and

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Speaker 5: do the right thing with the way some of these

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Speaker 5: people do that. That's an incredible way to look at it.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I feel blessed just that I was

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Speaker 9: able to write this book. I mean, this book will

638
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Speaker 9: lift you every single day. It's got fifty six stories,

639
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Speaker 9: and if you read one tonight, you'll feel all. You'll

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Speaker 9: put yourself on top of the world because these are

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Speaker 9: stories about It's not my writing. It's the stories of

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Speaker 9: people who did incredible things because ultimately they have this

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Speaker 9: American can do spirit.

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Speaker 1: Give me one president that you've got in here.

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Speaker 9: And why I have personal stories about Ronald Reagan because

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Speaker 9: I worked for him at the age of twenty one,

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Speaker 9: twenty two, and twenty three, and when he was done,

648
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Speaker 9: I went out and visited him California and talked with

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Speaker 9: him a bit. And I never put those stories in

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Speaker 9: a book, but I decided this is the time to

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Speaker 9: do it. I also have stories, personal stories in here

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Speaker 9: about George Herbert Walker Bush cut from a different cloth,

653
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Speaker 9: but an incredible patriot, youngest naval aviator in American history.

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Speaker 9: You know, not only did he deliver a payload from

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Speaker 9: a burning plane and avenger but they sent him back

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Speaker 9: to the they rescued him.

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Speaker 1: He was rescued, meant back to the San Jacinto. This

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Speaker 1: is in this book.

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Speaker 4: And there is a person.

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Speaker 9: From this town where I live now up in Maine

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Speaker 5: You know, during this time of the year, at Christmas time,

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Speaker 5: churches plan for much larger crowds, with those preparations might

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Speaker 5: not pan out this year.

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Speaker 1: At least for some congregations across the nation. Strange but true.

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Speaker 5: A recently released survey from Life Way Research found just

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Speaker 5: under half of Americans.

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Speaker 1: Say they typically attend church services during the Christmas season.

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Speaker 5: Forty eight percent say they don't in five percent say.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're not sure what they're gonna do this year.

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Speaker 5: You see, the very name Christmas originates in the church's

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Speaker 5: celebration of Jesus Christ's birth, and while ninety percent of

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Speaker 5: Americans do something to celebrate Christmas, fewer than half attend

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Speaker 5: church at Christmas time.

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Speaker 1: Seems odd to me.

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Speaker 5: Here with me to discuss this as the president of

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Speaker 5: Summit Ministries, doctor Jeff Myers. Jeff, first of all, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 5: It is the time of the year and it is

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Speaker 5: a wonderful time of the year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 11: Steve great to be with you.

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Speaker 5: So look, I mean, I grew up with the idea

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Speaker 5: of people say well, I'm a CNE church goer, and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, what does that mean? It means Christmas in Easter.

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Speaker 5: It took me they finally explained it to me. And

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Speaker 5: you've heard that term, of course in your business for years.

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Speaker 5: I never knew what that meant until I was a

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Speaker 5: little bit older. But even CNE churchgoers seem to be dwindling.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen this pattern in Europe, Jeff. We've seen

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Speaker 5: this pattern in Europe for the last twenty five years,

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Speaker 5: and now it's happening in America and I don't think

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Speaker 5: it's a good trend at all.

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Speaker 11: What do you say, Well, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 11: good trend either. My wife and I were in Rome

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Speaker 11: two years ago for Christmas. We went to the Christmas

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Speaker 11: Eve evensong at a church and we were the only

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Speaker 11: two people there. They are three hundred seats set up.

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Speaker 11: Nobody else was there. And so, yes, we don't want

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Speaker 11: to go the way of Europe that sort of hangs

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Speaker 11: on to these Christian foundays but essentially denies that God

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Speaker 11: exists and slaps him in the face while sitting in

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Speaker 11: his lap. And this is what we have as Americans

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Speaker 11: that I think is unique. We have the opportunity to

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Speaker 11: say no, we understand that everything that is a blessing

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Speaker 11: to us comes ultimately from God.

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Speaker 1: And so we can go. We can go to church.

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Speaker 11: Now, a lot of people, you know, they don't feel

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Speaker 11: comfortable they go to church. They're like, yeah, they're going

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Speaker 11: to try to get me to give money, You're going

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Speaker 11: to try to get me to join up with something.

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Speaker 11: But I would say to people, you know, go because

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Speaker 11: Christmas is a beautiful celebration. Doesn't really matter what your

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Speaker 11: religious tradition is. Just go someplace where they actually believe

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Speaker 11: that Jesus was born of a virgin, in someplace where

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Speaker 11: they believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and celebrate

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Speaker 11: with those people and maybe you'll want to go back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, here's the thing for me.

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Speaker 5: Look, I have people that push me, well, I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: go to church. You know, those people are no better

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Speaker 5: than aybody. You know what people that go to church

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Speaker 5: are trying, is my general rule. As a general people

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Speaker 5: in church are pretty good kind of cloth, all right,

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Speaker 5: And I kind of like him. And look, I'm not perfect.

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Speaker 5: I'm an imperfect human being. And God obviously has a

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Speaker 5: sense of humor. He made me, and I'm good with

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Speaker 5: all of that. And I like to be around people

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Speaker 5: that are that are, you know, trying to be better,

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Speaker 5: to try to improve their lives, to try to stay

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Speaker 5: on the word, if you will, right, And so I

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Speaker 5: just I enjoy the community of church.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot more people would find that community.

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Speaker 5: There's so many lonely people in this world, especially this

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Speaker 5: time of the year, Jeff, especially this time of the year.

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Speaker 5: They would find Uh, if I make me so proud

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Speaker 5: deliverance in those in those pews, I.

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Speaker 11: Think, I think that's that's exactly right. And you know,

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Speaker 11: I was at our church the other day and I

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Speaker 11: was thinking looking up at the people who were leading

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Speaker 11: the worship, and there's a former you know, in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 11: Dan Topless dancer on the stage. And there's people who've

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Speaker 11: been in you know, involved in drugs and have been

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Speaker 11: set free, and people who have you there's all different

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Speaker 11: kinds of people in all different situations in life and

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Speaker 11: the and the reality is that's what church is for.

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Speaker 11: It's for people who realize, you know, the world told

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Speaker 11: us there's no such thing as truth, and what we

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Speaker 11: have is anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation. If you want less

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Speaker 11: of that and more of God, then you're not alone.

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Speaker 11: There are a lot of people like that. And I'll

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Speaker 11: tell you, Steve, this is an interesting fact. There's going

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Speaker 11: to actually be one demographic group that will be more

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Speaker 11: in attendance this year at church than others, and that

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Speaker 11: is gen Z young men. There's a significant growing religiosity

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Speaker 11: among those young men, and they are because they've been

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Speaker 11: overlooked and they are ready to go someplace where they

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Speaker 11: can make a difference, and they know that faith is

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Speaker 11: going to be a component of that.

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Speaker 1: They want less of all that non gone and they

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Speaker 1: want more. Yeah, not just that they've been overlooked, they've

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Speaker 1: been lied to.

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Speaker 5: Oh if you try this, she'll feel better, and if

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Speaker 5: you fill the void with this, she'll feel.

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Speaker 1: Nothing fills the void like God, period. You know that.

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Speaker 5: I know that the void can't be filled by topless

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Speaker 5: dancing and drugs and internet nonsense.

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Speaker 1: You know that.

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Speaker 5: And in this season of joy, I pray for those

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Speaker 5: that are feeling empty today to go find fulfillment and

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Speaker 5: enrichment and nourishment, spiritual nourishment in the seat of God

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Speaker 5: at a church nearby. You've got nothing to lose, my friends,

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Speaker 5: and everything to gain. Jeff, I gave you the last word.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 11: The philosopher Augustine said, we have a God shaped hole

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Speaker 11: in our hearts, and our souls are real.

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Speaker 1: Our hearts are real.

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Speaker 11: The way we feel about things and the purpose and

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Speaker 11: meaning we want to have in life, that's all very real,

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Speaker 11: and God placed it there on purpose, and so you

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Speaker 11: can go, you can be a part of it. Just

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Speaker 11: meet some people, just break that cycle of loneliness. The

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Speaker 11: idea of church is called the body of Christ for

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Speaker 11: a reason.

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Speaker 5: Aamen for that again, Doctor Jeff Myers. I always enjoy

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Speaker 5: talking to you. You bring hope to the folks, and

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Speaker 5: I hope somebody pays attention. If we get somebody out

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Speaker 5: there today, anybody any one of you listen, always said

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Speaker 5: go find a church, walk in. They're gonna say good

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Speaker 5: morning to you. Jeff Myers, Thank you, sir, and Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Steve. There you have it all right, don't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere.

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Speaker 5: America's Voice Live will continue in this special Christmas season in.

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Speaker 1: Just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: The beloved annual Santa Train, a Cherish tradition in Appalachia

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Speaker 5: for eighty one years now, made an extra special stop

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Speaker 5: this year to deliver joy to survivors of Hurricane Adelia

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Speaker 5: in Florida. Known for spreading holiday share with its whistlestop

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Speaker 5: gift toss through the Appalachian region, the train expanded its

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Speaker 5: mission to include those affected by recent natural disasters. Nice

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Speaker 5: touch by the way. Volunteers loaded the train with thousands

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Speaker 5: of toys, coats, and gifts for families in need. This

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Speaker 5: year's efforts not only brightened the holidays for Appalachian children,

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Speaker 5: but also brought hope and support to hurricanes impacted communities.

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Speaker 1: Take a look at this.

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Speaker 8: I came the first time in nineteen forty seven, and

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Speaker 8: I can tell you what I got that year or two.

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Speaker 7: A book, a tablet that had forty eight states in it.

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Speaker 10: It start with Alabama and it let her all through.

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Speaker 7: That's how I learned all the states and capital.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a name for your horse?

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Speaker 5: Eat?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 7: You named the horsey Kitty?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's a beautiful deg.

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Speaker 12: Where did y'all get the joy of seeing Santa Claus?

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Speaker 12: And every child deserves that, especially when their family's been

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Speaker 12: through the hardship of something like Hurricane Helena.

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Speaker 4: Did y'all come out to see somebody today?

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Speaker 5: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Organized by CSX Food City and the King's Fort Chamber, Well,

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Speaker 5: the sound Chain continues to embody the spirit of giving

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Speaker 5: the United Communities through kindness and generosity. What makes America

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Speaker 5: wonderful is that with every stop that train delivers more

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Speaker 5: than just gifts. It delivers hope, ensuring that even in

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Speaker 5: challenging times, the magic of the season reaches everyone, reaches everyone.

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Speaker 1: What is your favorite Christmas.

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Speaker 5: Eve tradition that brings your family closer together, and how

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Speaker 5: are you celebrating it? Pat Downing writes this game night, Well,

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Speaker 5: it's game on. Sometimes it's family gatherings, isn't it. Karen

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Speaker 5: Jane Snellbaker gathering together at a family member's home for.

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Speaker 1: A nice meal with some members contributing sides.

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Speaker 5: We also have a white elephant with twenty five dollars

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Speaker 5: as a limit, gender neutral.

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Speaker 1: And then the fund.

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Speaker 5: Really begins place when we packed with kids everywhere.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing better than family.

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Speaker 5: Jim Kraileik shares this the Christmas Eve service with my

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Speaker 5: sister providing the organ and the piano music. That's a

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Speaker 5: nice touch. It's always nice to get together and sing

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Speaker 5: with family. I love Christmas Eve services, by the way,

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Speaker 5: It's one of my favorites. Candle light services. Let's see

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Speaker 5: Maureen des Mare getting and decorating our tree my night

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Speaker 5: midnight church service, I think is what she means, opening

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Speaker 5: one gift that's under the tree. Yep, that was my

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Speaker 5: tradition when I was young. Laiser Garrison John as a

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Speaker 5: married man living with my wife solely making Christmas bread

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Speaker 5: with a coin. Serbian Orthodox tradition, cooking various foods and

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Speaker 5: preparing the next day's liturgy.

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Speaker 1: It's January the seventh.

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Speaker 5: I must also take a day off a month before

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Speaker 5: from my work so I can prepare for Christmas in

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Speaker 5: just three days. Remarkable, isn't it? And Michael Rogers writes,

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Speaker 5: candle lighting service at church. I love the candle lights

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Speaker 5: service at church.

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Speaker 1: I do. I think it's very special and.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate you being here spending time with us

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Speaker 5: here and this Christmas season. Merry Christmas to you all,

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Speaker 5: one and all. I'm Steve Group for all of us

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Speaker 5: here at Real America's Voice. Have a great holiday and

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Speaker 5: a happy New Year.