WEBVTT - Sloane Knows - Draymond Green On Mentoring The NBA's Next Generation 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:02.040 The volume. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:12.840 Hi, I'm Sloan and I know the NBA. Today's guest 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.240 needs no introduction. He's a four time NBA champion and 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.079 in all stuff, he's one of the best defenders in 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.319 the league, a successful podcaster, and part of the core 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.200 Golden State Warriors. We are live from Chase Center with 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:31.360 the one and only Draymond's Cream. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:31.760 Dre. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.760 I'm sixteen years old and you're thirty three, and I'm sorry. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.479 I feel like I try to make you feel old 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.920 a lot, and you're not old. But in the league 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.440 of the NBA, I mean, like, you know, thirty three, now, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:44.639 sixteen was a long time ago. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:49.080 You know absolutely, I remember sixteen years ago or seventeen 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.279 years ago. Would take me to see I remember that. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.080 Okay, good, because that was a lockdown. I'm about to 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.040 ask you a lot of questions about that. So at 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.680 sixteen years old, what were you like as a basketball player? 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.240 At sixteen years old as a backasketball player is when 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.200 I first kind of started to come into my own. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.720 I was kind of freshman I mean sophomore or junior year, 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.720 and my junior year season is when I really took off. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.400 My freshman year, I played freshman basketball my sophomore year, 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.960 I was on varsity. I started every game on varsity, 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.160 but I was a role player for sure, like I 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:24.840 kind of have my role. And I did that my 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:29.320 junior year, like the team became on and that we 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.320 won our first st AID championship. So that was really 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:37.200 my first experience of winning a school championship. Like I 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.679 lost in sixth grade, I lost in seventh grade. I'm lying. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.960 I did win in eighth grade, but we didn't have 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.160 in my city. We didn't have like a tournament, so 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:52.800 you have like twelve regular season games and the best 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.480 record won a championship. So it wasn't like you actually 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:56.600 had to go win a championship. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:56.920 Wow. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.559 And so that was my first experience sixteen of truly 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.360 winning a championship. You wanted like an AU tournament, but 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.920 like really winning a real championship. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.800 That's what I was doing at sixteen. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.600 It's like you were manifesting your life in the future, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.240 you know what I mean, Like all those shifts. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:13.840 I like that. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.720 So speaking of AAU, I know a lot of the 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.639 guys that have interviewed have told me really cool stories 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.120 about when they were playing AAU. They were able to 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.640 play against other NBA players and create really special bonds 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.880 with these future guys that they were going to continue 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.800 to have a career with. Do you have any guys 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.120 like that that you've just been friends with since you 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:31.720 were really young. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.760 I know I have a few guys that I've played 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.360 against since I was young. I was actually on Instagram 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.760 the other day Manny Harris, who played with the Cleveland Cavaliers. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.600 He played with the Los Angeles Leakers for a short 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.960 amount of time. Manny Harris grew up in Detroit, Michigan, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.760 and Manny I remember growing up like as a young kid, 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.480 like fifth and sixth grade, seventh grade, We're coming from 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.760 saging On, small city. We go down, we play those 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.520 guys from Detroit, and like, you get a toe different 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.480 feel from who we play back at home, you know. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.880 And Manny was one of those players. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.880 He was absolutely incredible, and he used to destroy us 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.240 when we were younger, and then we played against each 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.080 other in the state championship of high school. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.440 He went to Michigan. I went to Michigan State, And 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.560 so I would say, if there. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.680 Was one guy that I remember from that I remember 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.880 playing against from elementary on through college and even in 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.440 the NBA. That guy for me and who was like 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.000 motivation for me growing up because we couldn't He played 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.160 for the Cobras when we were growing up. We could 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.760 not beat them, and so it was always motivation for 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.040 me to try to beat him. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.920 So I think I'd say the one guy. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.000 For me was man here, okay, and do you think 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.520 you know? I know we talked a little bit about 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.160 Michigan State, like did you come out of the woman 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:47.560 You were like, I'm going to go to Michigan State 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:49.400 like that, how did that go down? 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.839 So ironically, my aunt played at Michigan State. And I'm 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:58.800 born in nineteen ninety old. The fact that you think 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:00.440 nineteen ninety is old. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.480 I was born in two thousand and seven, so you know. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.720 I remember two thousand and seven like it was yesterday. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.360 I graduated high school in eight But the fact, like 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.120 I get laughed at by people for being born in 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:16.240 the nineties and I'm at the very beginning of the nineties, 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.480 and the fact that you think that it's old, it 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.080 is just mind bodying to me. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.920 But Michigan State. My aunt went to Michigan State. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:28.159 I think in like ninety three, ninety two, ninety she 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.360 was there when Steve Smith was there, so maybe ninety 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:35.120 one ninety two somewhere in there, I would go down 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:36.800 like and we would go see her play. I had 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.880 been to my aunt's dorm, which in full circle moment 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.960 ended up being the dorm that I also lived in 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.000 when I got to Michigan State. But I used to 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.560 be terrified as Party. Loved to Michigan State, loved the green. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.960 And white, creepy, terrified of s party. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.000 I go to these games. I was also the kid 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.440 that was terrified of Chuck E Cheese like, and so 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.960 I would go to these games see my aunt, and 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.760 I thought that was absolutely incredible. I would always say 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.479 then like I'm gonna go to Michigan State. I'm gonna 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:07.039 go to Michigan State. Then you start ninety eight, ninety nine, 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:12.680 two thousand, I am eight nine, ten years old and 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:20.039 the Flintstones matteen, Clees, Morris Peterson, Charlie Bell, Antonio Smith, 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.320 Jason Richardson from Saginaw. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:24.880 They're playing at Michigan State. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.920 They win a national championship in two thousand and so 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.240 for me growing up as a young kid, and I 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.360 remember I can always place Michigan State from when I 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.039 was three, four years old, and then to see them 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.280 at ten years old winning. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.719 The National Championship. I thought that was everything. Flint. Flint, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.800 Michigan is twenty minutes away from sagan On. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.760 Jason Richardson being from saganaw to watch those guys and 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.839 be like, Wow, they're on it. They're playing in the 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.240 National Championship, They're being Florida in the National che I 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:55.800 want to go to that school. And me and my 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.200 brother from that time it was like, yeah, we're gonna 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.000 go to Michigan State. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.560 Yeah on Michigan. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:06.080 Though. You know what's funny, I this is gonna get 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:10.240 you going in the state of Michigan. You grow up, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.719 you're you're a Michigan fan, or you're a Michigan State fan. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.360 As I'd imagine in LA you're the U C, l 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.960 A or USC. Most people maybe not you Sloan because 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.680 you pick your own teams, like you didn't picked the 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.840 Lakers and pick the Warriors, but you usually pick one 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.520 of those schools. And so for us, it's like all right, Michigan, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.560 Michigan State. Michigan State is a no brainer. Like the 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.719 colors are better, Like the school is better, the coach 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:39.600 is better, the program is better, you know, like it's 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:40.840 time is though it's a hall of fame. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.320 Nobody can stand that but I. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.279 And then then, like I said, it was also something 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.159 that I could see though at a young age and say, oh, 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.240 those guys are like men, Like they come from a 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.839 similar place that I that I come from. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.320 And so and then I'm not gonna lie. I like 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:58.080 teams that win. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.120 I mean, this is football, but like eleven and oh, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.880 you know, like this. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.400 Year, but like they were still in signs and you know. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.640 Like okay, so you're gonna okay, so you're a you're 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:08.719 a believer in the steeling. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:14.920 I mean it's obvious clear as day, and everybody's like, 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.520 oh you know, they they still signs, everybody still. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.040 But you can't be that egregious, like to place. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.360 Someone on the other sideline of another team dressed up 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:25.680 as their coach. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.280 Do we really want to talk about them being came. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.960 Out that Michigan State did the same thing. You would 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:32.880 deny it though, right. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.840 No, Michigan State is going through their fair share of. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.200 Ok so you're gonna allow them, Okay, So you're just you're. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.360 Fair mich But I think you also have to be fair, 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.960 like you can't. You can't just kind of say, oh, 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.440 they accepted this, were sweeping it under rugg like you 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.360 still gotta be fair to people. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:57.400 But that was I mean, that's that's some intense signs stealing. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.320 It's a little crazy, for sure, and it definitely does 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.800 not give a good message to anyone else out there. Like, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.080 it's also a school, you know, like people go there 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.240 like if I was a Michigan student now, like the 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.760 football teams cheating, Like I don't know what's happening in 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:12.480 those classes. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.600 You know, well, you know, this is also a school 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.720 that really prides themselves on trying to make us went 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.280 to Michigan State for like we're done. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.320 Yeah, And you know. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.720 It's just I think it's pretty ironic that they're so 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.520 smart and they had caught like this, like. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:30.840 Badly, like branhanded. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.080 Real, it's a little ironic to those of us that 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:41.400 they try to they try to make feel less than 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:42.640 I'll just leave it at that. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.160 Yes, I feel like you almost what's really cool about 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.120 you is that, in a way, you've been an underdog 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.199 for so long and you just continuously continuously prove people wrong, right, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.920 And I'm curious being a second rounder does that Do 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.439 you think that that's shaped who you are now? 0:08:59.480 --> 0:08:59.560 Like? 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.240 Do you do you remind yourself constantly like that many 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.240 teams passed up on me, and yet I was this good. 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.840 You know, I am this good for. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:08.440 A long time. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.680 For a long time, I will remind myself that because 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.320 to your point, I was the underdog. And you know 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.760 what I've tried to learn throughout my journey is I 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.120 was the underdog for a very long time. I'm no 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.760 longer the underdog, and I think I think it's very 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:35.599 important that you can identify those stages because the mentality 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.040 that you have to have as an underdog. If you 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.360 have that same mentality and you're not the underdog, it's distasteful. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:46.960 And so for me, I've always tried to and like, 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.160 don't get me wrong, it's hard to do because you 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.880 go so long with this mindset of I just need 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.520 to get it out the mud. I need to get 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.520 it anyway I can. And you go so long with 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.880 this mindset and then you get to a space where 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.240 the world no longer view you that way. And that's 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.480 when it gets interesting, because when you're the underdog, the 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.559 world is rooting for you and they want to see 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.800 you do well. Everybody loves a good underdog, everybody loves 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:18.160 a good Cinderella story, and so it's all fine and 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.000 Danny the moment they no longer see you as the underdog, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.640 where now they say, oh, well, what I think of 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.840 him is this. I no longer view him or her 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:29.640 as this. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.240 This is where I placed him at. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.079 And that's when it starts to get interesting because again, 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.160 those same things that you did as an underdog, now 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.840 that they no longer look at you that way, it's 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.280 not viewed totally different. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:43.559 And so I think, for me. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.440 An interesting adjustment that I had to make, and I 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:54.120 must be honest, you still like it's a never ending thing, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.440 like you never really get to the space of life. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.760 I'm not the underdog. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.520 I never do underdog things like there are still times 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.400 where you do those things because it was such a 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.320 part of you for so long, you know, And so 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:12.320 I think just identifying when you're no longer the underdog 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.600 is as important as having the underdog mentality when you 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:15.880 need it. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.439 And what advice do you think you would give sixteen 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.120 year old Dre to be like in that time when 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.040 I mean you said you played freshman basketball as a 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.600 freshman and then you were a role player your sophomore 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.839 year on varsity. But what would you tell that sixteen 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.400 year old kid, like, I'm a four time NBA champion, Like, 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.280 what do you think you would think? 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.920 Think? I think what I would tell that kid is 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.280 I would tell him the things that he need to 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:45.000 understand about the journey along the way, because you go 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.800 through so much on this journey, and some of the 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.360 things you go through with people, and some of the 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.000 things you have to go through alone. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.000 And it's. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:03.559 I think it's it's very it's very interesting because what 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.920 you end up realizing is so many people can't do it, Like, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.640 so many people can't walk through those things alone or 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.440 walk through those things with somebody and the one, but 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.480 the but the very few. Like it's it's a reason 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.840 it's only four hundred and fifty guys in NBA, like, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.160 because the few that can go through those things, the 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.120 few that can come out on the other side of 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.200 that are the ones that you see and they make 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.600 it and you know the world knows them and you 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.520 know the world can appreciate their craft. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.319 I think there's one anomally to that, and that's Patrick 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.599 mccau because, like, you can't win three championships in like 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.360 your three years in the league and then just like 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.319 dip and then be like I did it, you know 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.960 what I mean, Like I really went through it, you know. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:48.080 One percent. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.680 But even that, like I think, like I love Pat 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.200 by the way, like Pat was my teammate, we won 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.120 two championships with one championship together, we won one championship together. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:12:59.920 I think you want too and then you want to 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:00.640 one here. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.120 One with the raptions, okay, but but Patrick. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.920 Is an anomaly, and I think it's a little different feeling, right, 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.520 Like you're such a basketball fan, you'll remember that. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:14.640 I think I. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.360 Loved Patrick McCaw. I was like ten years old and 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:17.840 I was like, that is the most beautiful man I've 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.960 ever seen at ten years old. Let him know, Like 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:21.600 I think. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:26.880 Uh, I think with Patrick, you didn't look at the 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:32.280 way the career ultimately ends up panning out. And I 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.160 think if there were a lot of things that Patrick 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.480 would change, I think, but there's also things that along 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.360 my journey that I was yeah, you know, and so 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.080 I just think, uh, and looking back at the sixteen 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.120 year old and saying, what what that has to be? 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.000 Along the way, you just have to understand the steps 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.920 of the journey because it's it's it's brutal. There's times 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:57.240 where you want to quit, and I think it's it's okay. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.240 To fill those feelings, right, Like, we go through it. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.640 And as a basketball player, you're taught as an athlete, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.200 you're taught like, no, you just gotta keep going, keep going, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.600 like get through it, keep going, and. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.400 That bils you out to be a certain type of way. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.160 But I think in going through it, you have to 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.040 understand that, like try not to ride the roller coaster 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.280 because it's and by the way, it's still a roller coaster. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.320 Like I'm thirty three years old, I'm playing at the 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:23.600 highest level you can play. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.200 And it's still a roller coaster. You know. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.960 But as you get older, as you've been in it, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.760 you learn like that, I can't ride. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.360 This roller coaster. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:36.120 Like sometimes you experience the highest of highs and you 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.840 experience the lowest of lows, and to ride that wave 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.359 the entire time, it's impossible. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.240 Yeah, it's a mental game too, one hundred. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.560 So that's what I would just tell the sixteen year 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.160 old men, is like, okay, great, there's four championships, there's 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.240 these things in college. There's these things in high school 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:56.360 in the conference. Don't ride away, don't like just do 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:57.200 not ride away? 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:08.440 Yeah, okay, So now I want to move on because 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.160 I've been so lucky. One of the privileges of my 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.600 life has been to get to know you. And I 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.560 think what I think is so special about you is 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.600 the way that, even though it is so many you 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.880 are probably such a god right, so untouchable, we feel 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.120 like we know you right, Like you make your opinion known. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.040 You make who you are known to everyone, which I 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.680 think is so special, especially as a kid, because you know, 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.480 I'm not going to name names, but there's people out 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.000 there where I admire them, but I don't know them, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.680 you know. And with you, I think that people really 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.240 understand who you are. People know your opinion, which is 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.280 so cool, Like you know, you really got it. You 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.720 have to use your voice, and so I know you. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.640 I think the world knows you, but I want to 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.280 get to know Sloan knows Dre a little better. All right, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.400 What was the most memorable play of your career? 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.640 The most memorable play of my career, I would have 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.680 to say is as memorable as it is. I can't 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:11.200 recall the exact years, either twenty seventeen or eighteen, who 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.040 were playing against the Portland Trailblazers. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.920 And Damian Liller gets the ball on the wing. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.280 After we turn the ball over, Clay turned the ball 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.480 over and Damian Lilla gets the tracks the ball down. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.600 He gets the ball on the wing. If you know, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.600 Damian lillar like, you better get out there. He's shooting it. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.960 So I run out there and I take this shot 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.840 away and then no Avan is coming running down the court. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.200 He hears no advante and I circle back around to 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.080 the rim and I just go vertical. And when I 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.160 realized it, I'm like, oh man, I'm dunked on Because I. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:46.880 Circled, I'm right under the rim. 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.560 This dude got a full he has a full head 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.240 start coming downhill at me, and I gotta jump straight 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.600 up and go vertical. And I just jumped and went 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.800 vertical and I got the block. That to me, I 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.960 would say was the most play. Like I had a 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.080 great series that series, but that play, like I felt 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.959 like I locked their whole offense down myself, and that 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:10.560 play was like a microcosmo. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.439 That is what I always say. My dad and I 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.080 talk about this all the time where sometimes you'll I'll 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.680 watch your highlights and people don't understand that you stop 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.280 the whole team by yourself. Like that's a really hard 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.359 thing to understand because you're like, oh, You're like, oh no, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.640 you know they just threw the wall out of bounce 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.000 and you're like no, no, no, no, no, dream on one hundred 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.760 percent force that, whether it was mental, whether it was physical, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.000 Like if you really watch those highlights every single time 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.520 something happens, like I swear your name, your fingerprint was 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.080 on there, it is true. And I also think that 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.160 is the same with Gary Payton the second big shout out, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.399 that's my guy. I love him so much. And I 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.920 just noticed this. I mean, every time the other team 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.760 messes up, I'm like, it was either Gary or Drey. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.399 I definitely appreciate it. And and reality is it's like, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.560 in order to do what we do on the defensive end, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:02.879 I always say people people don't value or approach the 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.280 defensive end the same way that they do the offensive 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.000 and the same way. You have to have spacing on 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.199 on offense. You have to have one defense, like and 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.280 there's so many little nuances to where if one guy 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.760 isn't on the same page, it all falls down, you know. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.639 And so I do understand the importance of like having 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.080 everybody on the same page and trying to lead that. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.520 But as far as defense goes, like again, just like offense, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.440 there's things that you want to get to as a defender, 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.159 there's things that you want to get to when you 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.760 understand what they're trying to get to. And I think 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.879 for me as as just always trying to be a 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.439 step ahead of the play, knowing like, oh man, they 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:39.800 want to get there with if I can get to 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.879 that spot before they get there, it throws off the 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:44.040 entire time and. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:44.600 Of their play. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.840 And that's and that's what I try to do and 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.679 and and focus on. And I try to cause the 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:56.320 same havoc for opposing offenses as great offensive players cause 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.200 for opposing defenses. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.760 For sure. And on the topic of defense, as obviously 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:01.840 the defensive player of the year, can you give me 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.040 two defenders currently in the NBA that are just extremely underrated? 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.639 Well A Sloan knows alone. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.840 And I feel like everyone always says I feel like 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.800 everyone always say this guy is underrated. And I think 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.879 the reason everyone always says he's underrated is like because 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.199 he doesn't have a Defensive Player of the Year. He 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:25.560 hasn't been on as many all defensive teams for as 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:29.080 good of a defender as he is. And it's Drew Holliday. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.200 Drew Holliday is like I was watching the game the 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:38.199 other day, Al Horford went out, Porzingis was out, like 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:39.359 not playing at night. 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.560 Al Horford goes out the game and like. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.000 Boston's matchup, Like you can tell in their shoot around 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.760