WEBVTT - TechStuff Remembers 2014, Part One

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from com

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tex Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland,

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<v Speaker 1>and today joining me in the studio is Joe McCormick. Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back, Thanks for having me back. Thank thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of a last minute jump in. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was originally Lauren Vogelbaum was going to sit

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<v Speaker 1>in on this one, but Lauren's feeling a little under

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<v Speaker 1>the weather and we just wanted to look back at

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<v Speaker 1>the year two thousand fourteen. Some of the big stories

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<v Speaker 1>that happened, stuff that I didn't cover in the Predictions

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<v Speaker 1>episode because we didn't know it's going to happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it happened. That's kind of the way that tends

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<v Speaker 1>to work. I think your crystal ball is faulty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that I was actually just staring into

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<v Speaker 1>a magic eight ball, and uh, that was it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the problem is that you're not actually using crystal

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<v Speaker 1>You're you've been peering into a plutonium core. That would

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<v Speaker 1>also explained the laws and teeth. So at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of the big stories in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and fourteen, some of the stuff that happened throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Now we're just going to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>covering some interesting things, not and not everything obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights in the low lights. Yeah, nothing, nothing like every

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<v Speaker 1>story what happened in it would take us way too long,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think has been a really interesting year

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<v Speaker 1>for tech and one of the most interesting things about

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<v Speaker 1>it to me is that it seems like this has

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<v Speaker 1>really been the year of the hack. That is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>the way I would put it. Yeah, I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>have been big hacks and security breaches in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>There were so many of them and with such far

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<v Speaker 1>ranging impact that I think it was the year where

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<v Speaker 1>the average person out there, the person who doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>follow technology news, is really starting to understand that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the conflicts that are looming large in our

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<v Speaker 1>future gonna be technology and cybersecurity related conflicts. Yeah. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard stories in the past, everything from uh discovery

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<v Speaker 1>of code in infrastructure things like utility infrastructure that that

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<v Speaker 1>showed that there was possible Chinese incursions into our infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, those stories have come and gone, and but

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<v Speaker 1>this year really has displayed it. I mean, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that have directly impacted consumers of course, in

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<v Speaker 1>there was the target um hack, the one that stole

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of credit card information as well as

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff from Target, and the fallout of that continued

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<v Speaker 1>into But there are a lot of other stories we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna touch on, some of them that involve hackers hitting

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<v Speaker 1>different sites. Yeah. Well, in fact, maybe we should just

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<v Speaker 1>go through all the stories of their chronologically, because it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like in your notes, Jonathan, the very first thing

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<v Speaker 1>you have is about a hack. No, it is, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that hackers who posted data about Snapchat users

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<v Speaker 1>claim they did so to show that Snapchat security wasn't sufficient.

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<v Speaker 1>In January of this, Yeries, it was. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>first story we have. So this the hack itself had

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<v Speaker 1>happened towards the tail end of but this was where

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<v Speaker 1>we started getting information about what the hackers say their

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<v Speaker 1>motivation happened to be. So, you know, there are different

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<v Speaker 1>types of hackers, and I've talked about this before. There

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<v Speaker 1>are hackers who what they're interested in is just learning

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<v Speaker 1>how a system works and then how to modify that system.

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<v Speaker 1>Has nothing to do with breaching security, right, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>learning how something works being able to build it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe modify it, maybe make it do something it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>intended to do, but it has nothing necessarily nefarious about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got things like white hack hat hackers versus

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<v Speaker 1>black hat hackers. White hat hackers are the ones who

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<v Speaker 1>work with companies to test their security, and they'll try

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<v Speaker 1>to breach that security and then explain to the company

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<v Speaker 1>how they were able to do it so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can patch that vulnerar ability. Black hat had hackers are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are trying to do it for some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of gain, either an ideological gain where they are

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<v Speaker 1>bringing down a company or organization that has a philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't agree with their own philosophy, or monetary gain

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<v Speaker 1>where they're stealing stuff, either to directly benefit themselves or

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<v Speaker 1>to sell off to other people. So in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the hackers were saying, we were just trying to prove

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<v Speaker 1>that this company that says it has your privacy at

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<v Speaker 1>heart doesn't really protect your privacy. That's all we were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. But the way they did it was

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps a little more on the black hat side than

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<v Speaker 1>the white hack It's not like they alerted Snapchat and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, we discovered this vulnerability, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>address it instead. They they actually attacked. So all related

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that Snapchat. I think it was Snapchat

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<v Speaker 1>that they were claiming that they delete all of your messages,

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<v Speaker 1>but they actually don't. Yeah, there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>issues with that Snapchat because again, yet, like you were

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out, snapchat is all about sending someone a message

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<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to have kind of a self destruct element

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<v Speaker 1>to it, so that that's supposed to be ephemeral and

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<v Speaker 1>not leave a trail for future generations to come discover

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, Grandma and Grandpa were sending to each

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<v Speaker 1>other on their phones, right, And it doesn't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, salacious. It often is, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be. It could just be I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want this to live anywhere because it's just a goofy

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<v Speaker 1>picture and I just thought it was funny and that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it turned out that they're they're promises of

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<v Speaker 1>things being deleted exactly when you expected them to be

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<v Speaker 1>were not completely true. The next story in January is

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<v Speaker 1>that the US Appeals Court struck down the FCCS two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven regulations that demanded Internet providers treat all traffic

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<v Speaker 1>equally because the court said the FCC lacked the authority

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<v Speaker 1>to enact the regulations in the first place. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like this is going to lead to some more net

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<v Speaker 1>neutrality squabbles. Yeah, this was a big, big deal, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people were pointing out that this

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<v Speaker 1>was a potential issue at the very beginning, saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that I like people were saying, I don't disagree

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to have net neutrality rules in place.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that the FCC is trying to uh

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<v Speaker 1>to exert authority over something it doesn't have authority over,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was because of the classification of Internet communications.

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<v Speaker 1>Will come back to the story towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and fourteen. But yeah, that was a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big news item early on. Also in January, Lenovo bought

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<v Speaker 1>Motorola Mobility from Google for three billion dollars, and meanwhile

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<v Speaker 1>Google bought Nest for three point two billion. Nest is

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<v Speaker 1>the company that made yeah, also did smoke detectors, which

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<v Speaker 1>in fourteen it ended up having to recall because of

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<v Speaker 1>some issues. Wait, no, okay, one sentence explanation. How is

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<v Speaker 1>the next thermostat actually special? Well, it It learns your behaviors.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you like to have your house nice and

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<v Speaker 1>cool in the evening and warm and toasty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>it learns that and then starts to preset things so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to ever program it to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>It just learns what you want and can even do

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<v Speaker 1>things like when it realizes there's no one in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>it can start to turn things off so that way

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<v Speaker 1>you're not wasting energy heating a house that has no

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<v Speaker 1>one in it. And the final story of January two

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<v Speaker 1>thou fourteen was that the Apple Mac turned thirty. What

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<v Speaker 1>year were you born, Joe? Oh? The old okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that mac is older than you are. Uh, the Apple Mac?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the I remember in night when the commercial

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<v Speaker 1>for the Apple Mac came out. That was the Orwellian one.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably have seen it even yea and chatters the

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<v Speaker 1>screen right Whose faces it up on the screen? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it like John Hurd or somebody? Uh yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, although it was John Hurt, it might not

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<v Speaker 1>actually be a famous persons say if it was John Hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>that John Hurt hasn't has has remained old man age

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen four and hasn't changed since it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>he stayed young, he's just stayed just as old. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I'm thinking of him as the

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<v Speaker 1>big totalitarian face on the screen in uh oh, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the movie? Oh all right, yeah, John Hurt. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. And I have never seen the Vendetta. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of odd, right, because I mean, that's well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a from what I recall, it's got John Hurt

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<v Speaker 1>talking into a big screen and you know, spittles coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth. He looks very angry about something.

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<v Speaker 1>He's being the big brother type character. Yeah. Well, in

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<v Speaker 1>February two thousand and fourteen, that was when we got

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<v Speaker 1>a big news item where Microsoft finally announced its new CEO.

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<v Speaker 1>So Balmer had stepped down as CEO. No, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler alert. Balmber stepped down the CEO Developers, Developers, I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Satya Nadela became the new CEO of Microsoft,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a veteran of the company. He had

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<v Speaker 1>been there for twenty two years. Bill Gates meanwhile transition

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<v Speaker 1>from chairman of the Microsoft Board to the role of

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<v Speaker 1>technology advisor. UH. Microsoft's competitor Sony announced five thousand job

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<v Speaker 1>cuts and that they were going to split the TV

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<v Speaker 1>division into a wholly owned subsidiary and to sell off

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<v Speaker 1>its PC business. So this was a big news and

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<v Speaker 1>not the last time we'll talk about Sony in this podcast. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who's aware of current news knows that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to come back around to Sony by the end

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<v Speaker 1>um Also in that month, February, the Lawrence Livermore National

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<v Speaker 1>Laboratory an nounced they had produced fusion power using high

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<v Speaker 1>powered lasers. And only that, but they got more energy

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<v Speaker 1>out of the fusion fuel than was put into the

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<v Speaker 1>fusion fuel. That's a big deal. Well, that would certainly

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<v Speaker 1>be the goal if you're going to try to generate

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<v Speaker 1>municipal energy of fusion exactly. And that was a tough goal, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those things where we can achieve fusion,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're pouring so much energy to make the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>happen that we're on a losing end of the proposition. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to keep in mind, this does not mean

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<v Speaker 1>that we're suddenly gonna have fusion power plants everywhere, because

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<v Speaker 1>the laser only reached about one percent of the fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is still a long way from becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>new way of generating electricity. You got more energy out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but you were only able to consume a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny portion of the actual fuel. So it's not an

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<v Speaker 1>efficient system yet, but it's very encouraging. Now in March

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<v Speaker 1>two fourteen, we get some another hacking story. Uh, Mount

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<v Speaker 1>Cox U g X. You know why it's called Mount Cox, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the story is behind that? So Mount Cox.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to spell out the first three letters,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got MT for Mount and then big upper case

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<v Speaker 1>G for Cox. Magic the Gathering. I know, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you would enjoy that, Joe. It's so magical. So wait,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, what does that have to do with bitcoin? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it was. It was the world's largest bitcoin exchange. Now, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what does Magic the Gathering have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it? You can buy a crap ton of Magic

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<v Speaker 1>the Gathering Cards with some bitcoin. My friend, Um, are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to tell me that Magic the Gathering Cards

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be the successor to Bitcoin is the

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<v Speaker 1>next cryptocurrency? I would say that there was definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>bartering system with Magic the Gathering Cards for a good

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<v Speaker 1>long while before bitcoin came around. But obviously Magic the

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<v Speaker 1>gathering is not a digital format. Hold on, you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell me an event what happened to Mount goss.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got hacked, dude, another hack. Yeah, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a true hack. This was not a d

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<v Speaker 1>d O S attack. This was the real deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>the exchange completely collapsed because seven hundred fifty thousand bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>belonging to mountdocs customers, as well as a hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins belonging to the exchange itself, we're stolen in that.

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<v Speaker 1>I may be misremembering, but I thought that the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin was sold as an unhackable solution. You are correct, sir. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea was that it was it had security measures

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<v Speaker 1>in place that would prevent you from being able to

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<v Speaker 1>do something like spend the same bitcoin more than once,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's obviously a concern with any digital format. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if I give you a digital file, let's say it's

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<v Speaker 1>music file, and you think this the song is pretty awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to share this with all my friends. You

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<v Speaker 1>could copy it as many times as you wanted and

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<v Speaker 1>send as many copies as you wanted to everyone, or

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<v Speaker 1>you could upload a copy and everyone else could end

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<v Speaker 1>up grabbing that copy from the cloud, and they all

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<v Speaker 1>have a copy of that song. What happens when your

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<v Speaker 1>money is in this format? But bitcoin is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be made in such a way that it's impossible to steal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's impossible to to spend more than one bitcoin. Are

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible to spend the same bitcoin more than once

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<v Speaker 1>at a time, I mean, unless it eventually made its

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<v Speaker 1>way back to you. But it's a little complex the

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<v Speaker 1>way the bitcoin transactions work at any rate. Um. The

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<v Speaker 1>people behind bitcoin were saying this was due to faulty

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<v Speaker 1>security at Mount Cox. It had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the format of the bitcoins themselves. They were it was

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<v Speaker 1>like saying, you can't fault a dollar for being stolen

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<v Speaker 1>from a bank. Like if if if thieves come into

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<v Speaker 1>a bank and they breach a bank security, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the fault of the currency within it. Well then, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that doesn't really matter to the average person using bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff can still be hacked. Yeah, that was the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the issue. The bottom issue is that this

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<v Speaker 1>exchange still collapsed, and another one, a smaller one called

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<v Speaker 1>flex Coin, just a week later also went billy up

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<v Speaker 1>after after being targeted and thieves attacked them and stole

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins from them. So for a while people were wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if this was going to be the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the cryptocurrency, but it's stuck around, So spoiler

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<v Speaker 1>alert for later in the year. Also in March, Edwards

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<v Speaker 1>Snowdon addressed the south By Southwest Interactive Conference via streaming

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<v Speaker 1>because he's still a wanted man UH to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the need for better encryption systems in the era of

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<v Speaker 1>digital surveillance. Yeah, he's saying, hey, look, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>People are spying on you one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a company, maybe it's a government, maybe it's hackers,

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<v Speaker 1>but people are looking at your stuff. They might not

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<v Speaker 1>be actively looking at your stuff. They might be gathering

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff and then one day down the road they

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<v Speaker 1>might look at exactly. It could be one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where someone gets this notion to search for a

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<v Speaker 1>particular search term and it pulls up all interactions between

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<v Speaker 1>people who use that search term in some way. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're one of those people. So maybe what we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do is really look at some good ways to

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<v Speaker 1>encrypt communications so only the person who who only the

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<v Speaker 1>people communicating are the ones who have access to that info. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a very interesting thing that he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually virtually At south By Southwest also in March, IBM

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<v Speaker 1>showed off the power of artificial intelligence at south By

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<v Speaker 1>Southwest using a food truck in which the cooks prepared

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<v Speaker 1>food based off recipes made by an artificially intelligent program.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, users would put in did not read about

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<v Speaker 1>this at the time. It's kind of silly, but users

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<v Speaker 1>would put in a few preferences about what they liked

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<v Speaker 1>as food. The program would then essentially had a database

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<v Speaker 1>of recipes and based upon your preferences, would suggest, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>something interesting based on that, and then the cooks, the

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<v Speaker 1>human cooks inside the food truck, would actually make your meals.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like a robot was cooking your food.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just choosing what it was you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, and obviously couldn't be I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see all the ways that went wrong. Yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how el why did you put cinnamon

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<v Speaker 1>sticks on this piech Yeah? All right? Uh. There was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not an unlimited choice. Obviously, they were limited to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever things they could prepare in that food truck. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was an interesting approach um and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>showing that Watson can win at Jeopardy as well as

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<v Speaker 1>cook you a decent meal. Uh. The United States government

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<v Speaker 1>in March asked the Internet Corporation for assigned names numbers

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<v Speaker 1>that's called I CAN to come up with a transition

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<v Speaker 1>plan for the US to relinquish control of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was essentially saying, when I say control of

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, I really mean, uh, the whole naming convention

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<v Speaker 1>being in charge of all that kind of stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>all fell under the purview of the US. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>originally go back to DARPA? Yeah, yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>know the Internet does, but the naming conventions, well, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was the it was the founders of Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the people working on our ponnet who came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the protocols that the Internet would end up following,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was through their work that, uh, the rules

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<v Speaker 1>were set like this is how we named things, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh it kind of evolved from there. So it's more

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<v Speaker 1>like the roots of this can be traced back to DARPA.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not direct, not a direct line in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of it was exactly the same way, but yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly does go back there. Uh. And in March that's

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<v Speaker 1>when Sony announced Project Morpheus, which is a VR headset

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a competitor to the Oculus Rift, although the

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<v Speaker 1>Oculus Rift has been uh is being developed just for

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<v Speaker 1>computer systems, not for consoles, whereas the Morpheus would presumably

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<v Speaker 1>work with the PlayStation. Now, wait a minute, did Sony

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<v Speaker 1>by the Oculus Rift? No? Facebook did. Facebook. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook bought Oculus, which was a big you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big head scratcher for a lot of people saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of weird, and uh, it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that experienced three hundred and sixty degrees

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<v Speaker 1>of annoying people on your news feed. It was also

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<v Speaker 1>what caused uh the mo Yang found a Remojang founder, Notch,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who created Minecraft, to say, well, that means

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<v Speaker 1>Minecraft is not coming to the Oculus Rift because he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like Facebook at all. He later said that maybe

0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 1>he was being a little reactionary, but he was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like Facebook's privacy policies, I don't like how

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<v Speaker 1>they make you know, they make people their product, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not not crazy about developing Minecraft for them. So

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<v Speaker 1>not that not that that matters, but we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've we've got another next generation VR headset in

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<v Speaker 1>the works. Yeah, yeah, and uh, have you has anybody

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<v Speaker 1>tried these out yet? I haven't read I've tried the

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<v Speaker 1>Oculus No, no, no, I mean the Morpheus. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't it's still I think in the pro type stage.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been released yet. Have you tried a VR headset,

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<v Speaker 1>like a recent one, not a recent one. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>one in the nineties, which when they were pretty funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the the polygon pterodactyls and stuff. Yeah, and I I

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<v Speaker 1>did that too. I tried an Oculus Rift the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a friend who works for Google and he

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<v Speaker 1>had an Oculus Rift developer kit. So I went over

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<v Speaker 1>to his house and tried it out and was almost

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<v Speaker 1>immediately completely disoriented and feeling sick to my stife. So

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<v Speaker 1>I said, all right, I'm done with this. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you want to try? And this was this was

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<v Speaker 1>the programming gaming was literally you're walking around a villa

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<v Speaker 1>and like it's like a it's like a virtual villa

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<v Speaker 1>in Italy, So so you think, like then there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>going on, It's just you're just just walking through a villa,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's no mafia hits going on in the lawn,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like that. And um and so I did that,

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<v Speaker 1>and just that alone was enough to make me feel

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<v Speaker 1>a little like I'm feeling a little swimmy lucy goosey weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of it was because the control scheme right,

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<v Speaker 1>like I could move my head and that would change

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<v Speaker 1>my perspective, but I still had to use a controller

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<v Speaker 1>to move around, and it was that disconnect that was

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<v Speaker 1>causing some issues. Maybe if you had it with a

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<v Speaker 1>one of those in place treadmills, the gaming treadmill, sure

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<v Speaker 1>that might that might have helped a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny because he said, don't you want to

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<v Speaker 1>try the space ship game that I have that you

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<v Speaker 1>can run. I'm like, no, do you want your computer

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<v Speaker 1>to be covered and my lunch? Because that's what's gonna

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>happen if we try that. So but moving on, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got another hacker story for April two thousand fourteen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when the heart bleed bug is discovered in certain versions

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<v Speaker 1>of the open s s L software, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>secure socket layer software. It's meant to provide that secure

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<v Speaker 1>or what you assume is a secure connection between your

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<v Speaker 1>browser and some other websites. So things like banking sites

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<v Speaker 1>use this. Lots of sites use this. I mean you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see like HTTPS, that's a type of the

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<v Speaker 1>secure software. Not everyone uses the specific type to to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but it is one of the very popular ones.

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<v Speaker 1>They discovered that in one version of it, there was

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<v Speaker 1>this bug that could potentially allow attackers to access information

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<v Speaker 1>that could include sensitive material. It all was information that

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<v Speaker 1>was stored in UM random access memory, so it wasn't everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a certain number of characters in the

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<v Speaker 1>way it worked was that, uh, if I send you

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's say that that we're gonna represent Joe, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I what happened with his heart lead bug. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so I'm going to send out a message just

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you are listening to me, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to repeat back that message to me in order

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that you are listening to me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>everything's cool and we can keep on going. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I send out that message to you, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>certain number of characters long. Let's say it's twenty characters long.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get it and you see this twenty characters long.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that's how long the message has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So you repeat the message, it's twenty characters long, send

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<v Speaker 1>it back to me. Now, let's say I send you

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<v Speaker 1>a message and it's twenty characters long, but the package

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<v Speaker 1>says it's actually five characters long. Now, you, being a

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<v Speaker 1>dumb dumb can't tell the difference between twenty and five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>You you see the twenty characters that are the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of this supposed character message. But now there's all this

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<v Speaker 1>empty space, So panicking, you just grab whatever happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be nearby and you shove it at the end of

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the message. This is whatever happens to me in your

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<v Speaker 1>random acis memory. It's like short term memory for people. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're talking about a service like a bank transaction,

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<v Speaker 1>that information might include my password because I had to

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<v Speaker 1>enter it to get into the system. So you sent

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<v Speaker 1>in plain text back to me a message that has

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<v Speaker 1>twenty characters of whatever it was I I sent, plus

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<v Speaker 1>all this other information. So it meant that a hacker,

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<v Speaker 1>if that got in the middle of this, could end

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<v Speaker 1>up getting sensitive information like login information or other account information.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously a huge vulnerability, but somewhat relying on the luck

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<v Speaker 1>of the draw. Yeah, well it did in the end

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<v Speaker 1>of me and that almost everybody on the internet had

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<v Speaker 1>changed some password. Yeah, and well, the scary thing was

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that people were saying, it doesn't you know, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>wait until the service upgrades their version of open SSL,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you just change your password before they've upgraded,

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing can keep on happening to you. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was truly scary. This is another one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that really drove it home to the consumer,

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<v Speaker 1>at least people who are paying attention. It was truly

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<v Speaker 1>scary because there wasn't a lot we as consumers could do.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to depend upon other companies to do the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing first, and then we could you know, end

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>up changing our passwords as a result. Right, and things

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<v Speaker 1>like this matter, I think because it's um it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that the consumer cannot be blamed for. It's not something

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<v Speaker 1>where it's just that the end user is not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>following best practices designing week passwords or something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be doing everything right and still have all

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of your information threatened. Yeah, it's one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating parts about this kind of security vulnerability. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we already know there are all these things

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<v Speaker 1>that people don't do on on average, like they are

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<v Speaker 1>not keeping enough strong passwords. But then they could look

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<v Speaker 1>at these stories and say, look, it doesn't even matter

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<v Speaker 1>if I do everything right. It is a little frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>Also in April, one week after assuming the position of

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Mozilla, Brendan I stepped down because they've been

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that he had donated money to a California ballot

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<v Speaker 1>measure that was anti gay marriage. And Mozilla's corporate values

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<v Speaker 1>are focused on equal rights and free speech. So the

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<v Speaker 1>corporate philosophy of the company and the personal philosophy of

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the new CEO we're not at all in alignment. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was an intense amount of pressure and so as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, one week after becoming CEO, he stepped down,

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<v Speaker 1>Which you know that that that's an interesting story. Mozilla

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>had a rough year overall in two thousand and fourteen,

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>but uh, that one really opened up my eyes when

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it happened. And uh, the next one is probably the

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>most dramatic story of the year. Beyond these hacking stories,

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>this is the one that took place in a desert

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Alamo Alamo, Alama Gordo. I can say it eventually, Alama Gordo,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>New Mexico. It's when excavators we're digging and they discovered aliens. No, well,

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>cartridge is of of of a game about an alien.

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about et for the the extraterrestrial for the Yes,

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I am yeah. This was the long held story, the

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>belief that that that these cartridges had been taken out

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>to the desert and unceremoniously dumped. Now, I think it

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>was not just this game, right, There were a lot

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of poorly performing games that were taken out there and

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>dumped because they just thought, we're never going to sell all. Yeah. No,

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>this was This was the the days of the crash

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of three of video games, the home gaming um market,

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 1>when everyone suddenly realized home gaming is never gonna be big.

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>That was well, the problem was it got too big

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>too fast, right. The The issue was that they had

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>all these games that didn't have to go through any

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of quality check before they hit stores, and the

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>market was flooded with a lot of crappy games, some

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>of which came from big name companies Because of one

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>reason or another. The guy who created the guy who programmed.

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>ET the Extraterrestrial also created one of the most um

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:40.959
<v Speaker 1>uh well criticized games for the ad yards, Revenge. Uh.

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>And it turns out that he was you know, they

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 1>gave him a very short timeline and a lot of money,

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and he says, all right, and so he made He

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>made a game that the game he could make in

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that small amount of time. And as a result, uh.

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>It is largely pointed at as one of the reasons

0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>for the video game crash. Truly, you want to get

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>more are specific. The problem was way more widespread than

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>one bad title, or even two if you point to

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>pac Man, which was another one that everyone cited as

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>being a reason for the crash. But they were good

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>examples of the problems that existed that caused the crash

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Quick question, Yeah, did you ever actually play

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a T I owned E T D Extraterrestrial For of

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>course I did. Well, well, there was no hard but

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>yes I did beat it. Uh did you get all

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the DLC Joe? You might have an unrealistic view of

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>what the video game market was like back in Uh No,

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>there was no downloadable content. Okay, well, what's the next item?

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So also in April, the FCC announced it was developing

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>new rules for the Internet now that you know their

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>last ones again and struck down. But these rules would

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>essentially say that carriers could charge content providers for premium speeds.

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Now that neutrality advocates were protesting those rules because they

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>were say, and here's the problem. You've got carriers service

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>carriers that are also content providers, and that's a conflict

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of interest. If if you are providing content as well

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>as the service to deliver that content, then what stops

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you from giving your content preferential treatment and slowing down

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>everybody else? So anyone who's your customer is clearly going

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>to go with your content because they can't get anyone else's. Like,

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>that's a That's one of the big arguments about that

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>neutrality is that without it, you have the cards stacked

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>against you, especially for service carriers that also have either

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>relationships with content providers or they themselves are a content provider.

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>They opened up everybody watching Comcast Tube instead of YouTube. Yeah, no,

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that was that's legitimately, or Comcast instead of Netflix or

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Hulu whatever. Um, yeah, that's a big issue. And in fact,

0:28:55.800 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>uh recently it was revealed that there were some lots

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of people left comments on this, like they have CC

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>opened it up to comments on the internet. Um, and

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk a little bit about that a little bit later.

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>But recently it was revealed that more than three thousand

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>comments against this proposal were mysteriously lost or not counted,

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and that a huge number that some argue we're generated

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>from special interest groups that were pro let's tear the

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Internet and charge these different ways on accounts that had

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>just been created and it was their only post essentially

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Um. But anyway, that we'll we'll

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit more about that in a bit.

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to may Target CEO Greg Steinhoffel's that stepped

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>down in response to the two thousand thirteen data security breached.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>The compromise the personal information of seventy million customers. So yeah, another,

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was it was a half year after

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that had happened, the it was the damages were still

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>rolling out, and so he he accepted responsibility stepped down. Um.

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>This again is one of those things where in hindsight,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to say, well, clearly their security was

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>not not sufficient at the time. It's a lot harder

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>to say no, oh, well, we need to we need

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>to shore this up because we're vulnerable. Unless you are

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>actively using white hat hackers to test your security and

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>everything is being really put to a rigorous test, it's

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>hard to say how unless you're just being incredibly lax.

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know that anyone was arguing that. But

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>still real world repercussions for that, beyond the the seventy

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>million customers who had their data stolen. Also in May,

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>a European court ruled that Google must delete personal data

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>when asked, and by personal data, they specifically meant links

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to other existing sites in the Internet, because Google doesn't

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>own the pages that it links to in most cases,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>it just it's a search engine. It pulls up links

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.239
<v Speaker 1>in response to a query. So the argument here was that,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in fact, it was brought up by a guy who

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>when you searched his name, uh, I think it was

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like an old court case from the nineties was popping

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>up as the top result, and I think it was

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>something about him not making a payment or something along

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>those lines. And he said, this happened a very long

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>time ago, it's completely resolved, it has no bearing on

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>my life anymore. And yet if people search my name,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>this is what pops up, so it can still negatively

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>impact me, even though I've resolved this many years ago.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>So this is this brought up this concept, the right

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to be forgotten, the right to have things in your

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>past you fade away if you if you have done

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>your work in paying off whatever that thing was. Let's

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>say that you know you had to go to jail

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>or something, but you did, you served out your sentence,

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>You did everything you were supposed to do. You come

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>out reformed, you are trying to start a new life,

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and yet if people search your name, that's the thing

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that pops up. It's obviously going to continue to impact you.

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>So there's something to be said about that. The problem

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>is that the European court system said, well, Google, you now,

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>if you ever get a notice saying I want this

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>removed from your search results, you have to respond to it,

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>which opens up the doors for a couple of things. One,

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Google will never not be doing that. That will be

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the only thing Google does, like there will be a

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>department dedicated to it because it's just a huge undertaking.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd imagine most of these requests also will be without merit.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the other issue. That's the other one is that

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>if the request is for someone who doesn't want a

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>negative thing, that is possibly still very much relevant to

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>show up. What what's the criteria? How can let's say

0:32:55.560 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a company that's being criticized for some sort of perceived

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>or otherwise malfeasance, like, how can how can they you know,

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>how can Google determine whether or not a request as

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>legitimate or if it is something that's just trying to

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>whitewash the background. That also seems like you'd have people

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>who would be very against this because they might own

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the content. So you could have somebody petition Google to

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>undercut tremendously their traffic. Yeah, which then impacts the bottom

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>line of whatever that site is. So, if you're let's

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>say you're a whistleblower site and you know you are,

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you're providing an actual valuable service. You're not You're not

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to publish things that are unfounded. You're doing your

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>due diligence as a journalist to make sure that the

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>things you cover are as reliable as you can possibly

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>be expected to prove before publishing. And then you get

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the links removed, and then that could mean that people

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>one they don't see it, So there's important information that's

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>not getting out there, and too, you are no longer

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>able to make a living, and now you know you're

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you're effectively being censored at that point. So this is

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>still an issue that's going on right now where they

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>have not really resolved the problems around the demand. So

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone has some valid arguments. The question is what's the

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>implementation going to be so that it doesn't cause more

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>harm than good. Yeah, it's tough. I kind of think

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>we're just kinda I mean, it's not nice, but we

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>are past the age where we can expect things to

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>be forgotten. We're an unfortunate transitional generation who did not

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 1>grow up with the expectation that everything we did would

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>always be remembered. But that's kind of the reality now.

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Although you could argue also that that we're very fickle

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>as well, and things that probably should stick with us

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>longer can very easily get dropped in favor of other things.

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>That's some common terry about like some hacks, some reveals,

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>some leaks of information that were big, big deals that

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>then got eclipsed by other stories later on. That has

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with any active censorship or anything it's

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>just human nature, the way we can very quickly, uh

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>change our focus from one thing to another. Now that

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that in posterity, like we won't like years

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>down the road, say look we need to really look

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>at this. That's still a possibility. But in the twenty

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>four hour news cycle world, we very quickly leap from

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>one big story to another. So sometimes the best way

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to make people forget is just done. But don't bring

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it up. Just let it go and it will be forgotten. Well,

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 1>it's been a full story since I talked about hacking,

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>so let's talk about hacking. Hack eBay announced it was

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>hacked and that users should change their passwords. In May. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>also May, Google unveiled a prototype driverless car that essentially

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>just has a start button and a stop button for controls,

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>with a top speed of twenty five miles hour. There

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>was like a little bit, I think a few more

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>than a hundred prototypes that they were going to build

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.919
<v Speaker 1>from scratch. Like these were not converted vehicles, these were

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>little tiny smart car looking things. And uh, yeah, you

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess you pair it with a Google device like

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>an Android phone, and you tell it where you want

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it to go. And it takes you there at a

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 1>top speed of twenty Pretty awesome. Yeah, but no break,

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>no accelerator, no steering wheel, You completely hand over control

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>to the car. Wow. Well that's so that kind of

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>contradicts something I know I've heard you say before, which

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>is that you think cars like this are always going

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to have manual override. I think, I think when they

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>come to market, because obviously these are prototype cars that

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>are being tested internally, when I think when they come

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to market, they'll have to I think that, uh, and

0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I have to for two reasons. One, I think that

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>consumers are and demanded, They're only gonna be there's gonna

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>be a very small population of consumers who are going

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to feel comfortable completely handing over control of a vehicle

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to a computer. And then two, I think legally, I

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>think I think legislation will be passed where it will

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.919
<v Speaker 1>still require manual control to be a possibility. I don't

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>think you will ever get to a point, at least

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 1>not probably not within my lifetime where um cars can

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>be sold that do not have a manual option at all. So,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>but that's a guess. So I got a couple of

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Apple stories, right, Yeah, one at the end of May.

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>That's when Apple bought Beats Electronics for three billion dollars. Well,

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess they decided that was a correct amount of

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>money to pay. Yeah, I mean that's about the price

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of what like three of their headphones. So right, Um,

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>did your headphones ever worked? Joe? You gotta beat right

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>to full. But beat beats may be beautiful, but my

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>beats there are no beats. That's terrible. See, mine works

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>so well that I've been We we got a whole

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.919
<v Speaker 1>bunch in our office when our office moved to where

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it currently is but won't be for much longer. We

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>moved into a big, open office environment, which meant that

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>we're all sitting right, you know, elbow to elbow with

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 1>each other, and so we all got The company bought

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>us Beats headphones to kind of help us have our

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>own like little sound space and hatchets to keep in

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>our death stowers. Yeah, which is very worrisome because I

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>sit right next to Robert Lamb and he's hatchett happy.

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, Uh, my beats were great. I'm

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>sorry that cheers never did. What color did you end

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>up picking? I got red color of cash. Well, moving

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to June two thousand and fourteen and another Apple story.

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Apple Actually a couple of things that happened in June.

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>But Apple introduced Swift, which is a new programming language

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 1>for iOS and O s X development. UM, I should

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>say OS ten development, not OSX, but yeah, it's it

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>was a new era of programming here. And this was

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the time June's win. Apple holds the developers conference and

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Google holds the io event. So I didn't write down

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>all the news that came out from that because a

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of it doesn't have a direct impact on listeners necessarily,

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 1>at least not yet. And they tend to, you know,

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>we tend to look at the product releases more than

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>just the corporate announcements of here's some new, you know,

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>developers stuff. Um. Also in June, the FCC opened up

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the discussion. This is when they specifically asked for public comment,

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and John Oliver did the segment about net neutrality. It

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was fantastic, wasn't it. He mean, he does a really

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>good job of laying out what the issue is and

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>why people should care about it. I love John Oliver's segments, UM,

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and he urged people to leave comments on the FCC

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>site more than people did, so some that had actually

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>brought the site down for a little bit. Uh And

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that was just the beginning. There were there'd be hundreds

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of comments left over the next couple of months.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were thinking, if only we could give

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>preferential treatment to traffic going to the right right like

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a year, this wouldn't have been a problem. Uh. Well,

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>also in June, despite facing resistance and lots of markets,

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>something that's still going on today, the car service Uber

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 1>was valued at seventeen billion dollars, part of the sharing economy. Uh.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Then we also in June had the computer chat program

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that emulated a thirteen year old boy from the Ukraine.

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>What was his name, Eugene Goostman. I believe so. I

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>think you're right it was, but it was supposed to

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>be a thirteen year old boy from the Ukraine. It

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was actually a software artificial intelligence program fooling one third

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of the judges at the Allen Touring Festival, which led

0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>lots of people to say it past the touring test,

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>although others were quick to criticize that that claim, saying

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>that it caused people to set their expectations lower. Than

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>perhaps otherwise because it was had a lot of qualifiers, right.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I on one hand, I think, obviously this is very

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>smart piece of software. But on the other hand, I

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>what I read about it suggested it's kind of tricks

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>ee like it it uses some very clever tricks on

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>the part of the designers, but it's not really It

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>was tricks that actually helped them avoid the necessity to

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>create really super robust AI. Well. Yeah, because it's a

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>non native English speaker communicating in English. Yeah, at the

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>age of their team, meaning that there is a limited

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>experience of the world, didn't get all kinds of cultural

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 1>references and stuff right. So by by limiting the references

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.839
<v Speaker 1>that it would understand and the context that it could understand, Uh,

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>they end up set the questioner's expectations lower, and therefore

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the bar is lower. Uh. This is different than if

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you had an artificially intelligent program that was supposed to

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.919
<v Speaker 1>be a native speaker in whatever language you're using and

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>to be relatively aware of most things. You're at the

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>same sort of stuff the average person of that culture

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>would be aware of, and to have a conversation, a

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>meaningful conversation with that. It also raised a lot of

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>interesting discussion about alternatives to the Turing test, Right, you know,

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>this idea that the Turing test is not necessarily a

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>great test for artificial intelligence. We did a podcast about

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that over it Forward Thinking. Yeah, you should definitely go

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>check that out if you're interested in this subject. That

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking episode was a lot of fun. Uh, And

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>all of our podcasts are are gathered at f W

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>thinking dot com. So if you like that kind of discussion,

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely go check that out because that was a blast

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. Also, in June, Amazon introduced the fire Phone,

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>which was which I kind of pretend I care about. Yeah, well,

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you'd you'd be joining the millions of people who did

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>not flock to the Amazon Fire Phone. I think I

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 1>just failed at pretending. You know. It was one of

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>those that like the idea is interesting. It's it really

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.399
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to appeal to the Amazon Prime members, people

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>who buy a lot of stuff on Amazon. The process

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 1>of buying things would have been a lot smoother on

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>this phone than on other devices. It had a lot

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>of interesting innovations as far as like um, so much

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>easier to just pour the money out of your wallet.

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much what every mobile device is all about Joe. Uh.

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this this one was supposed to also have

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of cool features in it that would

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>allow for um better depth sensing with the camera, that

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. But yeah, it just never really made

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a big impression. Also, just an interesting little note, Harley

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Davidson introduced a prototype electric motorcycle, which kind of I

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>guess defeats the purpose of buying a Harley if you

0:43:55.960 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>can't revet and make that really obnoxious noise. I say

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>this as someone who really would love to own a

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Harley Davidson. That's true. I did not know that about you.

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>There's a world we have seen you in black leather jackets.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>But I also believe you don't drive vehicles. I don't drive. No,

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't drive cars. I don't drive cars. But you

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>would drive a motorcycle, absolutely, I would. What a strange person.

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>You can have a way more situational awareness and not

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 1>on a motorcycle than you can in the car. But

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>but you do have to worry a lot more about

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.439
<v Speaker 1>your safety. You have to, as as motorcyclist will say,

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to imagine that you are invisible, so you

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>have to be hyper aware of the cars around you obviously,

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.760
<v Speaker 1>but but there's a World War two era Harley Davidson

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that I absolutely would love to own. And I wrote

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the article on how stuff Works dot Com on how

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>choppers work, and that was fantastic. I loved it. UM Anyway,

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>last story for June often we found out that in

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve, Facebook changed how the news feed displayed

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to UM users as part of the psychological experiment, and

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>people got upset about it. You remember that story. Did

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you hear anything about it? Yeah, this idea that they

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see what the psychological impact was if they

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>if they tweaked the news feed so that certain types

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>of stories would show more than other types. Can they

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>make you more depressed? Yeah? And people got really mad

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that they became unwitting getting pigs to uh this this

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>psychological state that happened two years previously. I was hoping

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that my news feed would make me depressed in random ways. Yeah,

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you were directing this. I thought you were just I

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 1>thought all my friends were emo, and it turns out

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you were just making me think that. Well, I mean it,

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>anytime Facebook makes any sort of change, it's guaranteed to

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>upset people. But this in particular with people not feeling

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 1>like they were uninformed, that they were unwilling participants really

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>got to it psychologically. There was some big tech company

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>news in July. Wasn't oh gosh, so remember Only had

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>announced earlier in the year that they were going to

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.479
<v Speaker 1>cut five thousand jobs, and everyone's like, oh, well, that's

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:13.879
<v Speaker 1>when in July Microsoft announced plans to layoff eighteen thousand employees. Yeah.

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.720
<v Speaker 1>It was the largest number of layoffs in company history

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>for a single layoff at any rate. Uh. And Nadella,

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the CEO, said that the plan was to streamline the engineering,

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>operations and management processes and reduce the levels of management

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to quote accelerate the flow of information and decision making

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>end quote. And most of those jobs were in the

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Nokia division they had Microsoft had acquired Nokia, and now

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 1>they were getting rid of a lot of middle management largely. So, Yeah,

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it was not not a great not a great day

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>to be at Microsoft. I think, I'm sure, I'm sure

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone working there on that day was very much on

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>on the edge of their seat. And not all those

0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>layoffs happened at once, obviously they rolled out over time. Uh.

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Then there was this new story that that ended up

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>getting passed around became a little viral that I thought

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>was hilarious, largely because I knew the people involved. So

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I've got a friend. Her name is Veronica. Veronica has

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a husband named Ryan, and Veronica had gotten on the

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>phone with Comcast, a Comcast representative, and she wanted to

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>cancel her her service with Comcast. Hold on, let me

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>transfer you to somebody else. Yeah, it wasn't even that.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even that. It got worse than that. Yeah,

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 1>she she handed After she got frustrated, Ryan, her husband,

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>took over the phone call and at that point started

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to record the conversation he had with the Comcast representative,

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and which and which the Comcast representative took every opportunity

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>to try and stop them from canceling their service, and um,

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it ended up getting pretty absurd. It was hard to

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>believe it was real. Yeah, I think a lot of

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>people were saying, like, this is stage. It's got to

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>be it's got to be some sort of because every

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 1>single time the guy would just say, oh, I want

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to proceed, can we just please in my service, he

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>would come back at him with something else, like, you know,

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>can't you just tell me why yeah, you know it was.

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It was like a really needy breakup. Yeah right right,

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I swear it could change. So this ended up leading

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to Comcast uh delivering an apology to Ryan and Veronica

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.399
<v Speaker 1>um saying that that was not the way customer representatives

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to respond to calls. Then later there were

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>other customer representatives, mostly anonymous ones, claiming that no, they're

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 1>pretty much, you know, encouraged to take every opportunity to

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>discourage you from ending your service, Like that guy was

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>doing an awesome job, right like that guy, Like that

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>guy was essentially doing what he had been told to do,

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>or all the incentives point you toward doing like you

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>would get incentive of that would be based on uh,

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>customer retention, that kind of thing. And so anyway, it

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>became this whole story about corporate culture and the way

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that companies handle customers. And it was interesting to me

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>just because I knew the people who were involved, and

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I was actually chatted with Veronica about it later and

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>she's like, yeah, I didn't expect that end up snowballing

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the way it did. Any rate. Also, in July, four

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Square would split into two services, one that would remain

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>named four Square and one that was called Swarm and

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the check in ability where you would go to a

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>place and you know, you normally would go to four

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>square and check in. That went with Swarm, which left

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people asking what the heck is four square? Now? Uh,

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say that I always thought what the heck

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.399
<v Speaker 1>is four square? Now? I mean, I understand what it does,

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I just don't get it. Yeah, I don't understand that.

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I totally I totally understand your confusion. I loved four

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 1>square for two reasons. I love the idea of that

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>one other friends who used four square would be able

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to see if I was nearby, and maybe we could

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>end up hanging out. Never worked out, but that says

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>more about me than four square. Uh. The other was

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that four square you know some places that that would

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>allow you to check or some places that had a

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>presence on four square would have specials, like special deals

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like check in three times, get a free appetizer at

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>this restaurant, that kind of thing. And my wife and

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I go to enough of the same places where that

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 1>ended up being something cool and we like doing it.

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 1>But neither my wife nor I used Swarm. We both

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I tried it. She didn't even bother She just deleted

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>four square and was done. I tried it and then

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 1>deleted it. I didn't did no one. Not enough people

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>were using it for me to care at the time.

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>It may be different now, um, and four square became

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:53.719
<v Speaker 1>more of a recommendation engine, like you are in this neighborhood,

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe you would like to have coffee here, that kind

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>of thing. But I don't know how their numbers are

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>doing right now, but I do know the initial response

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<v Speaker 1>was negative. I think four squares should have done a

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<v Speaker 1>thing where only four people can check in at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a line of other people waiting, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is king and manufactured exclusivity has become

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly popular tool. So you joke, but that could

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<v Speaker 1>probably work, Jonathan. I just realized we've been talking for

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<v Speaker 1>more than fifty minutes and we've only made it halfway through. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who would have thought that boilaying a whole year down

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<v Speaker 1>to an hour would be a hard thing to do? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know if you make a good point, though, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>if we were to continue on this pace, obviously, this

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<v Speaker 1>would be one the longest episode text Up has ever done,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure you've had some long ones. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should just make the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the year another podcast. That sounds good to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to wrap up here and in our

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<v Speaker 1>next episode we'll pick up in August two thousan fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about what happened during the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. So, guys, if you have any suggestions for

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<v Speaker 1>at your topics for tech stuff, let me know. Send

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and fourteen really soon for more on this

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<v Speaker 1>and thousands of other topics because it has stuff works

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