Speaker 1: Everybody here. We are episode five of Asked Kevin Almost Anything,
Speaker 1: part of these six Degrees with Kevin Bacon podcast. This
Speaker 1: is it. This is our last episode season one, Six
Speaker 1: Degrees with Kevin Bacon. I can't believe we have done this.
Speaker 1: This was a germ of an idea, it came together.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're here. We've had amazing guests. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, so many interesting conversations that we've had with people.
Speaker 1: I've learned so much doing this, and also the responses
Speaker 1: that I've got have not only been you know a
Speaker 1: lot of them abroad, but also like people really touched
Speaker 1: or people affected by something that they heard, which is
Speaker 1: really what we wanted to do, right Stacey, Stacy Houston
Speaker 1: is here with me as usual for Ask Kevin Almost Anything.
Speaker 1: Stacy Houston, who is the executive director of six degrees
Speaker 1: dot Org.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's it's been an
Speaker 2: amazing season and we've we've had such an outworring of
Speaker 2: support and just positive thoughts and comments and you know,
Speaker 2: new friends and old friends, and it's just been so
Speaker 2: much fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really has been. It really has been. And
Speaker 1: and and you know, as a we we've had our
Speaker 1: regular podcast with celebrity guests. We've also added this kind
Speaker 1: of fun version of it, which is Ask Kevin almost Anything,
Speaker 1: where people are sending in questions you know that are
Speaker 1: sometimes related to charitable things and sometimes not, you know,
Speaker 1: just things that they want to know from me. And
Speaker 1: for me, it's it's it's really fun because you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times you do as a as an entertainer,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to promote things, you do interviews, and
Speaker 1: you do those interviews with with journalists, whether they're you know,
Speaker 1: working for a newspaper or they're on the talk show
Speaker 1: or whatever, but they they have a journalistic point of view.
Speaker 1: And even when I've gone and done you know, uh,
Speaker 1: Q and A's my favorite part of a Q and A,
Speaker 1: even if it's a great interviewer, is always the things
Speaker 1: that I hear from the audience. Whenever the the you know,
Speaker 1: the questions are opened up to the audience. And to me,
Speaker 1: that's what Ask Kevin almost Anything is it's kind of
Speaker 1: like opening up the questions to an audience to people
Speaker 1: who aren't journalists, people who are you know, just regular
Speaker 1: people want to hear about stuff, real questions, real questions,
Speaker 1: real questions, real talk. What do you think should we
Speaker 1: jump in?
Speaker 2: All right? So yeah, we should jump in. So this
Speaker 2: episode is, like you said, our last and so we
Speaker 2: had just such an outpouring of questions where people you know,
Speaker 2: went onto the six degrees dot org site forwards last
Speaker 2: asked Kevin and they left voice smails or they submitted
Speaker 2: text where they dm'd us. And so this is our
Speaker 2: attempt to try to get as many and as possible
Speaker 2: in this last short episode. So bear with me. We're
Speaker 2: going to go through as many as we can here.
Speaker 2: But it should be fun, all right. So the first
Speaker 2: one is kind of like a two parter from Lisa
Speaker 2: Thomas and her question. The first part is what was
Speaker 2: it like to hear the six degrees games for the
Speaker 2: very first time?
Speaker 1: Oh well, Lisa, thank you for the question. I can
Speaker 1: tell you that the six degrees picture a world where
Speaker 1: there was no social media picture, a world where the
Speaker 1: idea of something being viral really just had to do
Speaker 1: with you know, a cold. You know, there wasn't the
Speaker 1: Internet existed, but not to the extent that it does now,
Speaker 1: no smartphones, for instance. And I just started to kind
Speaker 1: of hear about this idea of the Six Degrees of
Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon. People would say to me, Hey, my friend's
Speaker 1: cousin invented a game about you, or I'd say what,
Speaker 1: Or they'd come up to me and say, I'm so
Speaker 1: hungover because I was playing your game last night. And
Speaker 1: I really didn't know what it was. And they started
Speaker 1: to explain to me that it was a drinking game
Speaker 1: that they were playing, where, you know, where you took
Speaker 1: an actor and that actor had to be in a
Speaker 1: movie that was in another movie with another actor in
Speaker 1: that movie and another actor, and that you had to
Speaker 1: connect it back to me in six degrees or less.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what this is. And frankly, I was kind of horrified
Speaker 1: by it. I don't it was imposter syndrome. I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought that the joke of the game was that
Speaker 1: can you believe that a lightweight like this can be
Speaker 1: connected to any of the great actors in history, you know,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Olivier or whoever it was, Meryl Streep or whatever.
Speaker 1: I also heard Howard Stern talking about it. I was
Speaker 1: I would listen to Howard Stern, you know, in the
Speaker 1: Every Morning Learning and he was on the radio started
Speaker 1: out as you know, as a New York you know,
Speaker 1: that's where I first discovered when it was he was
Speaker 1: local to New York. But and then he started talking
Speaker 1: about six degrees Kevin Big and I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what's that? And then there was a John Stewart had
Speaker 1: a nighttime show and I went on as a guest,
Speaker 1: and unbeknownst to me, they hadn't asked these young men
Speaker 1: from Albright College in Pennsylvania to be also be guests
Speaker 1: on the John Stewart Show. And they were the college
Speaker 1: kids who had, you know, come up with the idea
Speaker 1: of this game. And I was like, I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Let me put it that way. I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: And over the years I just I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: well it's just going to go away, and it just
Speaker 1: didn't go away, you know, just it just hung in there.
Speaker 1: And eventually I decided to, you know, embrace the beast.
Speaker 1: You know, if you can't beat them, join them. And
Speaker 1: that's when we created six degrees dot org and and
Speaker 1: decided to take you know, something that was was quickly
Speaker 1: becoming sort of like a brand, its own version of
Speaker 1: a brand, and turned into something positive. Her second part
Speaker 1: of the question looks like from Lisa is if I
Speaker 1: know any celebrity who hasn't been associated with me? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I mean, I mean, technically the game is
Speaker 1: not really about associating. It's more about like how many
Speaker 1: if I've worked with somebody, have they been in a
Speaker 1: movie with somebody else who's been in a movie with me?
Speaker 1: Or you know, how long many steps? But I can
Speaker 1: tell you that based on the amount of movies that
Speaker 1: I've done, any amount of people that have been in
Speaker 1: the in the movies that I've done, I've done a
Speaker 1: lot of movies, a lot lot of big casts, you know,
Speaker 1: like like you know, uh JFK or something which is
Speaker 1: like such an ensemble it's pretty hard to get past
Speaker 1: maybe two or three degrees at this point.
Speaker 2: I think I've heard people ask that before, and I've
Speaker 2: always wondered, like if someone has been able to say, like,
Speaker 2: no one's connected. But I think they say that, like
Speaker 2: we might not be connected by six degrees anymore. It
Speaker 2: might be more like five degrees. Yeah, just because there's
Speaker 2: so many people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely, you know, and and and as
Speaker 1: I've said before, you know, the thing about six degrees
Speaker 1: and six degrees dot org is when you take me
Speaker 1: out of it, the concept is a beautiful concept because
Speaker 1: it means that all of us who are riding on
Speaker 1: this planet do have connections. And you know, connections are
Speaker 1: the things that, hopefully, if we can try to remember them,
Speaker 1: will inspire us to not hurt each other. You know.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the good side, that's the good part
Speaker 1: of what this game could be.
Speaker 2: All right. I question number two Priscilla Hessner, and her
Speaker 2: question is what was your favorite movie and leading lady
Speaker 2: to work with?
Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, well, I have to say Kiras Edgewick because
Speaker 1: otherwise I'll get you, I'll get in trouble. But taking
Speaker 1: her out of the equation, I'll start with favorite movie.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Priscilla, I don't really have favorite movies.
Speaker 1: I have a weird association with my movies because I
Speaker 1: see them. I see them once or twice when I
Speaker 1: make them, and then I kind of put them the
Speaker 1: best and I don't really look at them anymore. So
Speaker 1: my feelings about them are more related to the experience
Speaker 1: that I had making them. Like when I think of
Speaker 1: something like you know, uh, tremors, for instance, what I
Speaker 1: think about is my wife being pregnant, being in the desert,
Speaker 1: the sunsets, the the heat, you know, the the the
Speaker 1: pizza place in the small town of Lone Pine. I
Speaker 1: don't think about the actual movie that much. It's it's
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, my shoes or something like that.
Speaker 1: So so I can't really say that I have a favorite.
Speaker 1: And it's also you know, I look at movies differently
Speaker 1: if I'm not in them. You know, if you ask
Speaker 1: me for our list of, you know, my five favor movies,
Speaker 1: it would be hard to do, but I would definitely
Speaker 1: be able to think about it. But I but I
Speaker 1: couldn't make a list of five favorite Kevin Bacon movies.
Speaker 1: I think that would just be weird. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just wouldn't feel right to me.
Speaker 2: So then what would be one of your favorite movies
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be like the number one favorite movie.
Speaker 2: But if you had to say, like this film that
Speaker 2: you watched that you weren't in, was something that was
Speaker 2: like very memorable, Okay, well moved you in a certain way,
Speaker 2: like what is that?
Speaker 1: Gosh, there's so many, but I love Spinal Tap. That's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies ever. And obviously because I
Speaker 1: have associations with music and with touring, and but I
Speaker 1: also thought that it was just absolutely hilarious. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited that they're making another one. You know what I
Speaker 1: just watched the other day, just kind of randomly care
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch. It was Dog Day Afternoon. Boy.
Speaker 1: What a good movie that is. Al Pacino, John Cassal
Speaker 1: just absolutely Sidney Lamet directing, shot in New York in
Speaker 1: the seventies, just an amazing movie. Ordinary people we were
Speaker 1: talking about the other day, so great. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit nostalgic about the movies of the seventies
Speaker 1: because when I became an actor moved to New York
Speaker 1: was nineteen seventy six, and so you know, those were
Speaker 1: the movies that I and the people that I was
Speaker 1: looking up to so much. Midnight Cowboy, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman, John Voight, amazing. I mean I look at
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on.
Speaker 2: That's your great I mean, yeah, no, it's gonna say
Speaker 2: that you hit on something because you're talking about how
Speaker 2: you think about movies and kind of like what was
Speaker 2: happening at that time. That's like our human connection to
Speaker 2: something It's the same way with music, right, Like, if
Speaker 2: I say this song is my favorite, it's really because
Speaker 2: of like what was happening in my life and how
Speaker 2: that song got me through it sure, or reminds me
Speaker 2: of like this really happy, fun time.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of that that emotional connection that we
Speaker 2: make with art generally.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, soundtrack of our lives and and and
Speaker 1: always always goes back to where what our emotional connection
Speaker 1: was at that time. But that's one of the great
Speaker 1: things about making creating art, you know, is that you know,
Speaker 1: every once in a while you can someone will It's
Speaker 1: one thing when somebody says, hey, I really you know,
Speaker 1: I liked you in that movie. It's another thing when
Speaker 1: somebody says that movie really helped me when I was
Speaker 1: going through a rough time, or or it made me
Speaker 1: realize whatever, you know what I mean. It's pretty it's
Speaker 1: a pretty cool thing that happens not all but but
Speaker 1: once in a while, once in a while. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: also wants to know what was my favorite leading lady. Uh, Well,
Speaker 1: let's see, I mean, I don't know if this really
Speaker 1: applies because I was a bad guy and and and
Speaker 1: and she was the hero and spoiler alert, she ends
Speaker 1: up killing me. But I would say Meryl Streep. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I I I always loved her work. I
Speaker 1: think that she is you know, singular in that she
Speaker 1: a lot of us aspire to a level of, you know,
Speaker 1: try to become a chameleon in in our work and
Speaker 1: then the parts that we do and try to keep
Speaker 1: people surprised and switch it up every time. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody is really done, not quite like Meryll.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's just you know, has embodied
Speaker 1: so many different kinds of people, uh, and from all
Speaker 1: kind of walks of life and all, you know, places
Speaker 1: all over the world, and you know, she's just you know,
Speaker 1: kind of kind of a master and also one of
Speaker 1: the most pleasant people to to work with. And we
Speaker 1: had a lot of scenes together, and uh, this is
Speaker 1: a movie called The River Wild where I was you know,
Speaker 1: basically you know, kidnapped her and you know, so it's
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd quite call it a leading lady,
Speaker 1: but but she was the lead, and she was a lady,
Speaker 1: So I'll go with Meryl.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. It's good to hear that she is as
Speaker 2: great to work with as as you say, because you
Speaker 2: know the whole don't meet your heroes thing. You always
Speaker 2: want to hope that they're as wonderful as they they
Speaker 2: seem like they are.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, totally, totally, And and I don't often get
Speaker 1: intimidate by actors, you know, I get much more intimidated
Speaker 1: by meeting, you know, or playing with you know, famous musicians.
Speaker 1: But actors, you know, I don't know, they don't normally
Speaker 1: scare me. But you know, meeting her and going to
Speaker 1: our first table read, and I was not a kid.
Speaker 1: I mean I already done a bunch of movies. I
Speaker 1: mean a ton of movies. It was like, oh boy,
Speaker 1: whoa this is like? And you know what she does
Speaker 1: is she just creates an environment right away where everybody
Speaker 1: knows that we are all in this together and then
Speaker 1: we're going to roll up our sleeves and we're going
Speaker 1: to get to work on making this the best movie
Speaker 1: that we possibly can. Like, like, there's no there's not
Speaker 1: a moment of well, I'm the you know, I'm the star,
Speaker 1: I'm running the show. You know she is. She's very
Speaker 1: And it has to do with theater. You know, when
Speaker 1: somebody is really aware that you have to play the
Speaker 1: play or in this case, the screenplay that all the
Speaker 1: pieces have to be working and then includes all the
Speaker 1: other actors. So, yeah, she was great.
Speaker 2: It's fun. Do you want to read the next one?
Speaker 1: Oh? It says, do I have to? You're an incredible
Speaker 1: actor and first remember seeing you in a footloose? Are
Speaker 1: you ever coming to Cincinnati, Ohio? Now I refuse to
Speaker 1: come to Cincinnati. I will never come to Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 1: I've been to Cincinnati many times. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of the great thing about having
Speaker 1: the Bacon Brothers band is that I don't let's say,
Speaker 1: we haven't played in Alaska, we haven't played in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's many more states that we
Speaker 1: haven't played in with the band.
Speaker 2: You played in Hawaii?
Speaker 1: We played in Hawaii. Yeah, and maybe one of the
Speaker 1: dec otis I'm not sure. I get. I know that
Speaker 1: we played in at least one Dakota, but which one
Speaker 1: it was? I forget? But but yeah, no, I love
Speaker 1: I love you know. Cincinnati is awesome. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think what the name of the club is there that
Speaker 1: we played. So yes, we will no doubt be rolling
Speaker 1: through again. And I haven't shot anything in Cincinnati. I
Speaker 1: shot a movie in Cleveland. But probably people in Cincinnati
Speaker 1: when they heard me say I shot a movie in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: they rolled their eyes. Yeah, exactly right, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Ohio, I don't did This year they're
Speaker 2: having the the eclipse, you know, the total totality eclipse
Speaker 2: is happening again this year. Are you aware of that
Speaker 2: happened like seven years ago. Yeah. Yeah. My husband and
Speaker 2: I we drove down to Tennessee. It's like eleven hours
Speaker 2: so that we could stand in a field in the
Speaker 2: middle of like nowhere for a minute and a half
Speaker 2: and see this eclipse. And I will tell you it
Speaker 2: was life changing. It was one of the coolest things
Speaker 2: I ever did. And it was it was we were
Speaker 2: in the middle of like a you know, the wilderness,
Speaker 2: and we were in front of a lake, and when
Speaker 2: the eclipse happens, everything goes dark, of course, right, and
Speaker 2: you can take off your glasses and look up and
Speaker 2: you just see like that rained around the sun and
Speaker 2: everything in the wilderness just like got quiet. All like
Speaker 2: the locusts that usually hear the chirping stops and then
Speaker 2: all these fish started jumping just straight.
Speaker 3: Out of the lake.
Speaker 2: It was wild.
Speaker 1: It was wow.
Speaker 2: Really you start realizing right in that moment just how
Speaker 2: that's all interconnected and how you know, wildlife response to
Speaker 2: those types of things. But this year, because it's seven
Speaker 2: years later, we kind of were tracking it and like
Speaker 2: any time it's happening in the US, we're going to
Speaker 2: go to it. And it's going like I want to say,
Speaker 2: through Texas all the way up through Maine, but part
Speaker 2: of it goes through Ohio, which is why I'm telling
Speaker 2: you the story coming back to you.
Speaker 1: So you have to be exactly at the right lab
Speaker 1: fut or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Some people will go like close enough and they'll see.
Speaker 1: Like a partial I remember this, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just do the totality. It's like, and this one is
Speaker 2: going to be like four and a half minutes, so
Speaker 2: it's like much longer that you get kind of experience.
Speaker 2: But I want to say, it's actually going through like
Speaker 2: totalities happening in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, but you have to you have to pray
Speaker 1: for a sunny day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually what happened with this last one. We
Speaker 2: were going to be going to North Carolina, which is
Speaker 2: a lot closer, and then a storm started moving in
Speaker 2: and we were like no, no, no, no, So we just
Speaker 2: like hooked to turn and drove into Tennessee.
Speaker 1: And you guys are so cool. That is so great.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like pre kids, right, you're like kids,
Speaker 2: right right, And we did this disbursement camping just like
Speaker 2: on the side of the of the road. We found
Speaker 2: this farm and they were like, come on in thirty dollars,
Speaker 2: you can stay here and to use our showers. It
Speaker 2: was like and I was like, okay, this is a
Speaker 2: little Tennessee, Like so are we are?
Speaker 1: We good?
Speaker 2: But it was fine. It was really fun. Actually they
Speaker 2: had like a live band. Oh I made a party
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just people just had a farm on the side
Speaker 1: of the road and they.
Speaker 2: Just had a farm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they like made T shirtsactly cool. That's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you're listening and you are close to the
Speaker 2: totality line, you have to make that drive.
Speaker 1: What month do you remember, It's in April April. Wow,
Speaker 1: if it comes through, I think I'll be in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I hope it comes through Atlanta, yeah, or someplace with
Speaker 1: you know, swinging distance exactly. That's cool.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so yes, okay, that's your answer. You have
Speaker 2: been to Cincinnati and you will be back to Cincinnati
Speaker 2: at some point.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I've never seen this totality what do you
Speaker 1: call it?
Speaker 2: The total It's like a totality eclipse.
Speaker 1: Totality.
Speaker 2: Someone probably listening there like that's not what it's actually called. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the totality eclipse.
Speaker 1: It's like it's very very cool, can't wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's cool. So this next question came into
Speaker 2: our d MS, and this was, you know, how have
Speaker 2: you ever done a podcast with the Footloose Cast? And
Speaker 2: they kind of listed Sara, Jessica Parker, John Litgow, Diane Wise.
Speaker 1: Weste, thank you, and Wes uh No, I've never done
Speaker 1: a podcast with the Footloose Cast. Sarah Jessica Parker, John Lithgow,
Speaker 1: Diane Weist, et cetera. Yeah, I don't know what that
Speaker 1: would be. I mean, I could see, you know, we
Speaker 1: could talk about the memories of it. I don't think
Speaker 1: it would be enough for multiple episodes. That would maybe
Speaker 1: one episode. Maybe there's a podcast where they bring on
Speaker 1: casts of movies. You know. It's interesting. I saw a
Speaker 1: reading of a play recently which is called This Is
Speaker 1: Our Youth and it was a fundraiser and it was
Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo and uh Matt Damon. So play by Kenneth Lanergan.
Speaker 1: That was a big hit I guess probably I'm guessing
Speaker 1: it was maybe in the eighties or early nineties, and
Speaker 1: Mark had played the part when he was he was
Speaker 1: playing like I think a nineteen year old or a
Speaker 1: teenager or something like that. And I think Matt Matt
Speaker 1: Damon went to and did it in the West End
Speaker 1: in London, but for this benefit they did a reading
Speaker 1: of it and now they're grown men, you know. And
Speaker 1: Mark actually had a giant like a Santa Claus Beard
Speaker 1: and White white Beard, and it was so interesting because
Speaker 1: you saw people as older people play characters that they
Speaker 1: played when they were younger, and there was something really
Speaker 1: kind of like fascinating and touching about that. So, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I was chatting with you know, Ruffle. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is a great idea, like people should
Speaker 1: do this, you know, with with you know, material plays
Speaker 1: or or movies that you've done that are you know,
Speaker 1: have a sort of This play was pretty iconic in
Speaker 1: New York, kind of off Broadway theater circles. You know,
Speaker 1: this would be a thing, you know, like to do
Speaker 1: to take old old you know, things, and and revisit
Speaker 1: them and not pretend that we're not young anymore, but
Speaker 1: just kind of like go for it. Yeah, so maybe, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe that would be a fun thing to do. Do
Speaker 1: a reading someday of that. Although that movie there's so
Speaker 1: much dancing in it that I don't know that the
Speaker 1: I don't know how a reading would really work, you know,
Speaker 1: unless you were, like you, unless I was jumping around
Speaker 1: in a warehouse or something.
Speaker 2: You know, let's dance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's dance. Nobody he's dancing. Yeah, No, I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, that would be I would love to. I
Speaker 1: have I have, you know, I have seen not Sarah
Speaker 1: Jessica Parker so much, but I've seen John. We actually
Speaker 1: John Let's Go. And I actually did a what was
Speaker 1: it like one of those We did one of those
Speaker 1: like you know when one actor interviews another actor thing
Speaker 1: I can't remember something, some kind of round table thing whatever,
Speaker 1: And that was kind of fun because we did reminisce
Speaker 1: about about that movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems cool. I mean, I think there's an
Speaker 2: a soldier right now. Maybe it's always been that way,
Speaker 2: but it feels like there's a moment where I've seen
Speaker 2: these podcasts popping up that are like One Tree Hill
Speaker 2: and it's like the cast and they're they're just having
Speaker 2: at like talking about each episode.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Well, there's like, you know, people that love
Speaker 2: The Office, so it's not so much like the cat Ask,
Speaker 2: but like The Office was such an iconic show and
Speaker 2: has spanned generations, and so like there's kind of just
Speaker 2: a show that talks about that as well. But I
Speaker 2: think that's like for the super fan. I think that's
Speaker 2: the cool thing about podcasts is that you can kind
Speaker 2: of dive deep into like very niche things that you
Speaker 2: must have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and anyone can really do it in that case too, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is amazing podcasts. How the two things that
Speaker 1: are amazing about podcasts is to me now having you know,
Speaker 1: here we are at the at the at the end
Speaker 1: of this season, how much people how long people are
Speaker 1: willing to listen to something about one you know, uh topic,
Speaker 1: Like for instance, we I've sometimes listened to this thing
Speaker 1: called the Rewatchables. Well I'll just take a movie and
Speaker 1: like three guys will just wat watch it again and
Speaker 1: just break it down and you know and talk about
Speaker 1: like all the details of the movie and the details
Speaker 1: that come out are just like incredible, And I'll find
Speaker 1: myself listening to all of a sudden, now we's going by,
Speaker 1: like I could have just watched the movie, but instead
Speaker 1: of just you know, I've been I've been listening to
Speaker 1: these three guys I don't know, you know, just talking
Speaker 1: about the movie. But also it's just, you know, how
Speaker 1: how much people are willing and able to just kind
Speaker 1: of riff on stuff, you know, putting a you know,
Speaker 1: a microphone on somebody somebody's face and they'll just people
Speaker 1: just riff you know, they have opinions and things to say.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's cool. I mean, it's really is.
Speaker 1: It's just something that's I don't know. I never it
Speaker 1: seemed like for so many years doing press, for so
Speaker 1: so many years, you know, everything was so boiled down
Speaker 1: to a SoundBite, and you know, your talk show appearances
Speaker 1: would always be over and a heartbeat, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: newspaper interviews maybe would be a little more extensive, but
Speaker 1: would basically you know be you know, be one line
Speaker 1: that would pop out of the thing and that would
Speaker 1: be it. You know, that's all that anybody ever knew
Speaker 1: and things were happening in such short little bits, and
Speaker 1: it just seems like this whole podcasting thing is I mean,
Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder how does everybody have enough time to
Speaker 1: listen to I shouldn't say that the commutes.
Speaker 2: I think, I mean except for us, like definitely every time, except.
Speaker 1: For us, exactly, exactly except for us. Yeah, commutes. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always listened line like cooking or you know,
Speaker 2: it's a great hands free kind of thing to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: yard work, you know, there's just so many things that
Speaker 2: you can do, like exercise, keeping your hands busy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I listened a lot when.
Speaker 2: I'm Yeah, I mean, and you also brought up an
Speaker 2: interesting point because I kind of look at it the
Speaker 2: same way as like a museum tour, Like the first
Speaker 2: time I actually paid, like on our honeymoon, we went
Speaker 2: to Europe and we paid for like a docent tour.
Speaker 2: You know, we had like someone that walked us through,
Speaker 2: you know, a museum and actually talked to us about
Speaker 2: the art. And I was like game changer, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: I always thought just walking through on your own and
Speaker 2: kind of reading the signs word enough to be like, Wow,
Speaker 2: this is really beautiful. But then it just takes it
Speaker 2: to a whole other level with someone who's like dedicated
Speaker 2: so much of their life to this these works of
Speaker 2: art and understanding them and knowing the historical context and
Speaker 2: what was happening when it was being created, Like it
Speaker 2: opens up things in a different way. So I think
Speaker 2: it's very similar as like you're like, I could have
Speaker 2: just watched the movie. I'm like, but not with that
Speaker 2: level of detail like inside and behind the scenes and
Speaker 2: what's happening.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's exactly right. People who have a
Speaker 1: real expertise about something are very very interesting to me.
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate that. I listened to a guy
Speaker 1: named Andrew Hickey who has this podcast called The History
Speaker 1: of Rock and five hundred Songs, and I'm on about
Speaker 1: song one eighty something or and and some of those
Speaker 1: episodes are two hours long where he's basically giving you
Speaker 1: a rock in depth rock history, lesson on the song,
Speaker 1: on the political structure at that time, on things of
Speaker 1: a scientific name. I mean, it's just incredible the kind
Speaker 1: of research that this guy does. Everybody who plays on it,
Speaker 1: how they're connected, a lot of six degree stuff, anyway
Speaker 1: it is I love I love I love experts. If
Speaker 1: you have the means, I'm totally with you. I you know,
Speaker 1: it's sometimes it can be expensive, but the but tour
Speaker 1: guys are just the best when you're going too a
Speaker 1: you know, some kind of a museum situation? Really or
Speaker 1: I love that? Well? Should we move on to the
Speaker 1: last one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you want to read it?
Speaker 1: Okay? A documentary on Netflix called The Movies That Made
Speaker 1: Us Dash Forrest Gump stated that Kevin was offered the
Speaker 1: role of Lieutenant Dan Wait a minute, but turned it down?
Speaker 1: Is that true? And if so, why did you turn
Speaker 1: it down? You idiot? You could have been in Forrest Gump.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Okay, So first off, let me say the Movies that
Speaker 1: Made Us Forrest Gump. I should watch this documentary. Sounds fun.
Speaker 1: I guess they'd pick a bunch of different movies and then.
Speaker 2: That's what it seems like.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was offered the role of Lieutenant Dan
Speaker 1: played by Gary Soonise. I believe that was Karen who
Speaker 1: was also Actually there's an interesting connection. Gary Sinise and
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks were in a Pall thirteen, So I don't
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I turned it down. I don't
Speaker 1: remember being offered it. I don't remember any of those things.
Speaker 1: I'd have to check. Let me check my email. I
Speaker 1: don't think there was an email. No, Yeah, I've like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was too painful, the fact that it came out.
Speaker 1: It was like one of the biggest hits in history,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was just too painful for me.
Speaker 1: I have I have to try to forget it now.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, being offered things is a strange. It's
Speaker 1: a strange process, you know, just a little bit of
Speaker 1: behind the scenes movie stuff because the casting process. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes what happens is that someone will say, there's a movie.
Speaker 1: Are you interested in this movie? They're interested in you,
Speaker 1: would you like to read it. It's not really an offer.
Speaker 1: It's a gauging interest that then has to slide into
Speaker 1: the well, yeah I want to meet and talk about it,
Speaker 1: or yeah I want to come in and audition if
Speaker 1: that's what they're going to ask for, or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be. It doesn't always and so
Speaker 1: in a lot of times, in people's minds, they go,
Speaker 1: I was offered that, but you weren't quite offered that,
Speaker 1: so maybe I was. I really have no memory of it.
Speaker 1: Gary was amazing and I never I really try and
Speaker 1: even when it comes to things that I didn't get,
Speaker 1: like people have asked me before, you know, what were
Speaker 1: you up for, like that you really wanted, like what
Speaker 1: were those parts or you know, and I just in
Speaker 1: order to survive, I have to just put them off
Speaker 1: out of my head. I just kind of dump them
Speaker 1: off the back of the hard drive and I really
Speaker 1: literally forget that I was up for a movie or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, obviously there's reason I was part of
Speaker 2: the movies that made ESCU. He said it was such
Speaker 2: an iconic movie. But it's like when you see a
Speaker 2: role like that, like Lieutenant Dan, you're like, that could
Speaker 2: have not been anyone but Gary soniz right when they
Speaker 2: they land that role, and you just and it's like
Speaker 2: that was like made for him. So it all happens
Speaker 2: for a reason. And interesting saying I would.
Speaker 1: Have sucked in that part.
Speaker 2: But I'm not saying that, not totally. But it's one
Speaker 2: of those things where you know, he then took this
Speaker 2: role and I think he has like the Lieutenant Dan band.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, he does, and.
Speaker 2: So like think about that, like he's taken this role.
Speaker 2: It's not so much just been a role where he
Speaker 2: played it and left it. It's like become this branding
Speaker 2: thing that he now uses to help believe wounded warriors
Speaker 2: and like soldiers and veterans, like that's kind of his platform.
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, it is, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: And I just think that's really special too, Like totally,
Speaker 2: it's totally he connected so deeply with that role, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think a lot of people have I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people have, you know, whatever foundations
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but that is a that that's
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people that have done have
Speaker 1: gone directly into that that from an experience from apart
Speaker 1: and really, you're right, it really is. It's it's pretty remarkable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: check out the uh. I think if you could probably
Speaker 1: google Lieutenant Dan Band, then there's probably links to some
Speaker 1: of the wounded warrior stuff that that Gary's bob with
Speaker 1: So that's definitely worth checking out.
Speaker 2: All right, So now we're going to end with our
Speaker 2: last audio clip. So it's the last AKA on your
Speaker 2: clip of this season, and we're super excited and this
Speaker 2: one comes all the way from Holly from Canada.
Speaker 3: Hi, Kevin, My name is Holly from southwestern Ontario and Canada.
Speaker 3: And my question is, what was your earliest experience with
Speaker 3: any sort of charitable work and was it something you
Speaker 3: participated in, something you witnessed, and what made it really
Speaker 3: resonate with you enough to continue that sort of work
Speaker 3: in your adult life.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's such an interesting question. Thank you for that,
Speaker 1: Holly from Canada. Let me think about that. The first
Speaker 1: experience with anything of a charitable nation nature. You know,
Speaker 1: my mom was not only very involved with various charities,
Speaker 1: but also uh you know, kind of an activist anti
Speaker 1: war and civil rights. And I think that her her
Speaker 1: uh just ethos sort of about that and about helping
Speaker 1: people sort of found its way into me. I remember
Speaker 1: once in philadelph Philadelphia where I grew up, going up
Speaker 1: to uh Fairmount Park, and it was Earth Day and
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the first Earth Days.
Speaker 1: I don't remember where that was, it would have been
Speaker 1: probably the early seventies, and there were things to do,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of it was sort of about like
Speaker 1: picking up trash and and you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: planting flowers or planting something like that, the trees, you know,
Speaker 1: and I seem to remember that I got involved with
Speaker 1: with that with that Earth Day many those many many
Speaker 1: many years ago. And the truth is that I kind
Speaker 1: of put that aside for a long time in my
Speaker 1: life and really, you know, as I've said before on
Speaker 1: the podcast, like gotten really so focused on just me
Speaker 1: and my own career and my drive and my ambition
Speaker 1: and all those things. And then you know, I started
Speaker 1: to think about trying to figure out ways to give
Speaker 1: back again. And I think, but I think that it
Speaker 1: was definitely it was more than one one instance. I
Speaker 1: think it was more kind of like the just my
Speaker 1: mother's you know, point of view about the world that
Speaker 1: really pushed me in that direction. What about you, Stacy,
Speaker 1: do you have a one moment?
Speaker 2: I talked about this a few times, But I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of a deep EmPATH. And so for me, I
Speaker 2: was always finding these opportunities to like march or hold
Speaker 2: a sign or volunteer in some type of way. And
Speaker 2: I found that like every time I did something like that,
Speaker 2: you know, served people, it it did something to my
Speaker 2: kind of like happy eater, right like, it filled me
Speaker 2: up in a way and created me created more fulfillment
Speaker 2: in my life. So for me, it was you know,
Speaker 2: I've talked about experiences growing up with a mom who
Speaker 2: was legally blind, and you start looking at the world
Speaker 2: a lot differently than I think some kids that don't
Speaker 2: have that same experience. What does access look like? And
Speaker 2: you know, what does it look like for people to
Speaker 2: you know, move through the world in the same way equally.
Speaker 2: So that sort of thing kind of I think shaped me.
Speaker 2: But when I love so much and I just love
Speaker 2: this question too, Holly, Like it's just the perfect final
Speaker 2: question of our season year because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, we all will find whether it's early in
Speaker 2: life later in life, we'll all find an opportunity to
Speaker 2: really say, like, I'm inspired to act, and it doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be something big or huge. And in fact,
Speaker 2: I think people don't take an action to try to
Speaker 2: serve or help or volunteer because they think that their
Speaker 2: contribution is too small. Right, I don't have a lot
Speaker 2: of money, or I don't have a lot of time,
Speaker 2: or I don't have a lot of expertise. But in reality,
Speaker 2: everything collectively is so meaningful. And I think that's like
Speaker 2: the heart behind six degrees is this, you know, the
Speaker 2: collective impact we can all make when we all do
Speaker 2: something and it might feel like you're just doing something
Speaker 2: in your corner of the world that won't impact over here,
Speaker 2: but you never know who's watching whose life you're going
Speaker 2: to impact by that small action or seemingly small action.
Speaker 2: I should say, so, Yeah, I think that there is
Speaker 2: a you know, a great opportunity to just start where
Speaker 2: you are. And I hope that if people learn anything
Speaker 2: from this show, it's that there are so many great
Speaker 2: causes no matter what your passions are, that you know
Speaker 2: need your help and support and your voice or your amplification.
Speaker 2: So you can share about it, and you can talk
Speaker 2: about it, and you can volunteer, you can financially support,
Speaker 2: but there's just so many wonderful organizations that collectively we
Speaker 2: can all help.
Speaker 1: And that is a great way to close out this season.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody, Thank you Stacy. Thank you Stacy for
Speaker 1: all of the incredible work that you do with six
Speaker 1: degrees dot org and for being my partner and for
Speaker 1: helping doing such great work on this is this podcast
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's been really fun on these
Speaker 1: ask Kevin almost anythings to just hang out and chat
Speaker 1: with you. And I also want to thank everybody that listened.
Speaker 1: You know this. We're trying to We're trying to have
Speaker 1: fun here and talk to you know, famous people that
Speaker 1: you want to hear from, but we're also trying to
Speaker 1: make you know, an impact and trying to make the
Speaker 1: world a better place. And when you listen, that means
Speaker 1: everything to us. It really is. You know, you're the
Speaker 1: reason why why we're doing this, and I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to do what i can with what I've got. Uh,
Speaker 1: we've had great converse stations. Thank you for calling, thank
Speaker 1: you for writing in. You know, it doesn't matter who
Speaker 1: you are, where you started. As Stacy said, you can
Speaker 1: do something to impact someone else in a positive way.
Speaker 1: It all starts with us. We are connected. Six Degrees
Speaker 1: of Kevin Bacon has very little to do with Kevin
Speaker 1: Bacon and all to do with our connections. So thank
Speaker 1: you so much for tuning in, and we'll see you
Speaker 1: next time.
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