1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Big trade in the NFL today, Jalen Waddle from the 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Dolphins of the Broncos. Now all those Bronco fans could 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: shut up about what they're not doing in the offseason, 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Is that right, stink? 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: I mean, tell them let's go stick is with us? 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: Hey, right, everybody whining over here, We're supposed to support 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: bone Nicks and what's going on? And how come we win? 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: In free agency? And you know they all signed, I mean, 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: the Broncos signed their own players, and they basically said, hey, 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: we think our players are better than the free agents 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: that are out there. And I can understand that, but 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: I still think there were some there were some positions 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: that you needed to address that you didn't address. Well, 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: at least now you've made a move. And you know, 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle is one of those guys to me, that 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: is a big time player. He just unfortunately played in 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: Miami where it's impossible to win. You just can't win others, 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: you cannot win in Miami. There's too many distractions. And 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: so I go back to Super Bowl thirty three as 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: a member of the Broncos and we're in the Miami 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: Dolphins facility, right, that's where we're training, getting prepped for 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl against the Atlanta Falcons, and so we 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: walk in Wednesday morning. We had like our positional out 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: to dinner nights on like Monday night, and so we 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: all went out to dinner and we all celebrated. We 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: had a great time, and then Tuesday was media Day 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: and then Wednesday it's back to the grind. We show 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: up Wednesday and one of my teammates walks in the 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: locker room and there's a big reaseport in the Miami 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: Dolphins locker room, and he puts up the ten top 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: reasons the Miami Dolphins will never ever win the Super Bowl. 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, well, this is interesting, Like I'm intrigued, right, 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm all eyes and ears. And then he lists the 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: ten strip clubs that he had been to on Monday night, 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 4: and he said, there. 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: Are way too many distractions in Miami to be any 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: good at playing football. How can you be consistently good 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: at playing football when you've got all these distractions? And 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: you know, I think Jalen Waddle getting out of there. 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: He's a big time player with big time speed. He's 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: a perfect compliment to Courtland Sutton. On the other side, 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: and I talked about it on my podcast, The Sinkatory Podcast, 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: and also on my radio show this morning. It reminds 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: me a little bit, and I'm not comparing Courtland Sutton 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: to the Marius Thomas, but it reminds me a little 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: bit of when the Broncals had Damarius Thomas on one 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: side as the ex and they had Emmanuel Sanders as 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: the Z on the opposite side. A great one two punch. 49 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: I love it, and I think I think it is 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a big time kind of moved by 51 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: the Denvercos to create and invest in another dynamic player 52 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: on this offense, something that I thought was lacking and 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: something now that they've solved. 54 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. I stopped listening once you said 55 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: the top ten strip clup in Miami. I was just 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 5: wondering who was number one. 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't don't I have no idea, 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 6: But you have to imagine, right, You have to imagine 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 6: the talent level in Miami is significantly more than like 60 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 6: Green Bay, Wisconsin or Buffalo, Right. 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: You would have to think there's a lot more talent 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: in that area of the country. I don't know from experience, 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: I'm just guestimating. 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Stink, you are so right about this. Eugene Robinson was 65 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: the Man of the Year in the NFL and was 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: arrested in Miami before Super Bowl. 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, how about that? 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: You know I was playing that. I know, yes, when 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: the news came down. When the news came down, I 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: was sitting at a table with I was sitting at 71 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: table with Lway. We're having like this brunch breakfast right 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: like at ten o'clock we had not like we had 73 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: meetings and then we had breakfast afterwards like eight thirty 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: meetings or nine o'clock meeting, whatever it was. So we're 75 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: sitting down there and we're all about this roundtable. There's 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: probably about eight of us. And I was sitting, you know, 77 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: in the vicinity Lway and Fred Fleming was Elway's kind 78 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: of security guy that you know, made sure at hotels 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: and stuff and everything that Elway wasn't bothered, right, So 80 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: he was just assigned to Lway by the team. And 81 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: Fred Fleming came up to our table and said, hey, listen, you, 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: Jane Robinson got arrested. He spent the night in jail 83 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: last night, and Elway looked at me and went championship. 84 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: We want it right there. 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we were just like championship. We can't overcome 86 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: that distraction, right, I mean, it's just impossible. 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: Right, uh stink. I feel like this is the rare trade. 88 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: We say this a lot, but often it's not the case. 89 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: This is a good trade for both teams. The Broncos 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: are inside a championship window and the Dolphins are clearly 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: rebuilding here and they got. 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: A first and a third. It's a good trade for 93 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: the Dolphins as well. 94 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean, obviously you have to understand, 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: like the thirtieth overall pick. Anytime you're talking about first 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: round picks, there's really and you talk to gms around 97 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: the league, there's really usually about fifteen to seventeen players 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: that have first round grades because you have thirty two 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: first rounders, right, like second round grades get elevated into 100 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: the first round. So it's really, you know, from the 101 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: Broncos perspective, we're getting a top ten pick from five 102 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: years ago that's entering the prime of his career for 103 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: the thirtieth overall pick. And when I played in Washington 104 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 3: under Joe Gibbs, Joe Gibbs, you say this all the time. 105 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: I will trade a known commodity for an unknown commodity 106 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: any day of the week. And this is a guy 107 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: that's in his prime. So now that you look at 108 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: where the Miami Dolphins are, I think they have seven 109 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: I think they have seven picks and the seven of 110 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: the first ninety four picks in the draft. Yes, clearly 111 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: they're rebuilding. You know, clearly they're they're turning over their roster. 112 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: And so I agree with you. I think it's a 113 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: really I think it's a good deal for the Broncos, 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: and I think it's a good deal for Miami based 115 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: upon where they are and where they want to go. 116 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: Looking at Miami, I mean, they just signed Malik Willis 117 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: and now you've basically taken away everybody who does anything 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 5: on that offense except for a chan. What do you 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 5: see happening with them? Do you think that they're dare 120 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: I say tanking? 121 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: I think that they are trying to change the culture 122 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: of their football team and trying to bring in a 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: group of players like that that understand and have football 124 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: as the number one priority. And I don't think it 125 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: was that way. I don't think it's been that way 126 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: for quite some time. And so I think part of that. 127 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: I don't think it's tanking. And we've seen how quickly 128 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: you can turn a team around. Where the New England 129 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: Patriots win four games, they fire their coach to bring 130 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: in Vrabel. They spend a bunch of money in free agency, 131 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: but they land the right players in free agency, they 132 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: land the right players in the draft that you can 133 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: turn it around in a season or two. And so 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: you just have to have the right the right players. 135 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: But in Miami because of the distractions, because it's it's 136 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: freaking Miami. Like I always said, you know, playing in Denver, 137 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: playing in Washington, you guys get your ass whooped. You know, 138 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: the coaches are on you at practice. You leave, it's 139 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: six o'clock at night. You're heading home. It's raining, it's miserable, 140 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: it's cold, right, and you're just like, the coaches are 141 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: up my ass, and we got to get win just 142 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: to get everybody off, like just to just to just 143 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: to take some pressure off. Like the same scenario can 144 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: happen in Miami or or back in the day in 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: San Diego. And you pull out of the parking lot, 146 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: it's five point thirty, it's beautiful out. You're going Hey, 147 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: let's go down to you know, let's go down to 148 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: La Jolla and get Margarita's right. It's just there's just 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: a it's just a different feel, a different vibe. And 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: so I think you have to you have to get 151 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: real professional players to be successful in Miami, and you 152 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: gotta you gotta fix the culture of that over do 153 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: you think about it? Like when Mike mcdaand went there 154 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: to be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. Like Mike, 155 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: he was a football nerd. Yes, one it took. It 156 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: took one year. He's got the big you know, big 157 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: glasses on, he's got the freaking he's got the capri 158 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: pants that are pushed up to his shins. Yeah, you 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: know he looks like Don He all of a sudden 160 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: he became Miami vice Don Johnson. You know, like stop 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: we start. We're going to start the meetings at twenty 162 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: four after the app because we have one a playoff 163 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: game in twenty four years, Like play come on, tubs, 164 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: stop it, like stop it, what are we doing? It 165 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: just affects everybody, So you got to have a tough mindset. 166 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: I think that's why they went out and got happy. 167 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 3: You know, he they coached at Green Bay. He's used 168 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: to being miserable, Like you need a miserable person to 169 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: coach that team, Don Shula. Look, Don Shula seemed to 170 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: me when he was a coach, to be miserable. I 171 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: think that's who you need. Miserable even in Miami. Yeah, 172 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: he could he could find, you know what he could find? 173 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: You know, they say in every cloud there's a silver lining. 174 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: If you coach in Miami, you need to find the 175 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: feasis lining in every cloud, like you got. It's not 176 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: no matter what it is. You gottao for the worst 177 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: thing possible and then you got to preach it. You 178 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: gotta do. You gotta go the opposite. Right, there's nothing 179 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 3: good can happen out of this scenario. Let me tell 180 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 3: you why. That's how you gotta be. 181 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: The two coaches that had success in Miami Shula, as 182 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: you pointed out, and Jimmy Johnson. 183 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, both miserable. He feels like both miserable. I don't 184 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: know Don Tula, but that Jimmy when he was coaching, 185 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 3: was he was miserable? 186 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 7: Come on, yes, yes, Mike, you just a quick correction. 187 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 7: Devon a Chan now pronounces his name Devon at the end. 188 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you expanded out to Fort Lauderdale, 189 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: Scarlet's had to be number one on that list. 190 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what a friend told me. 191 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, Okay, I would I wouldn't know, 192 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: but I will. I will take that under advisement. 193 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I trust this friend. 194 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, back to Miami, you are so right, Marino, 195 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback I've ever seen throw the football could 196 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: have win a championship in Miami. 197 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: It's crazy, you're right. 198 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I think that's endemic of like just endemic 199 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 8: of really nice places in general, because you know, you 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 8: always just walk out and you like you It's like, uh, 201 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 8: Katrina and the Waves on Sunshine. 202 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: Like that's not that big. It's not that big a deal, 203 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: where everywhere else you're just stressed as you can be 204 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: when it comes to losing. 205 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: Yes, does this move today? Mate? 206 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: The Broncos, in your opinion the favorite to come out 207 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: of the AFC or is it too early to kind 208 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: of project that here? 209 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of early. I mean, it certainly helps. I 210 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 3: don't know that I'm gonna call them the favorite. I mean, 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: come on, what do they win eleven to one score games? 212 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: Last year. Yep, you gotta figure. 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I know what happened. 284 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: It feels like it happened three months ago. But what 285 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: was your thought? What were your thoughts here on on 286 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,479 Speaker 1: what the Ravens. 287 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: Did with Max Max Crosby. 288 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: Listen, like what they did. It's not like Max Crosby 289 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: showed up and you were like, oh my god, did 290 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: you guys know this guy had knee surgery. I think 291 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: I think what happens it gives you an out. I 292 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: think what happened was they thought that Trey Hendrickson was 293 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: going to be a forty million dollars a year guy, 294 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: and like it. Let me just say this, if Trey 295 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: Hendrickson would have signed in Indianapolis, Max Crosby would have 296 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: passed his physical right. That's just a fact. 297 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: Such a good point. 298 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's how it goes. And so I 299 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: mean I failed physicals in nineteen ninety four, you know, 300 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: and I did this again on the Sinking Truth podcast 301 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: if anybody wants to check it out, because it's more 302 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: detailed there. But in nineteen ninety four, I failed the 303 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: physical in Chicago, in Indianapolis, in Atlanta. Then I go 304 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: to Denver and I basically made fart noises with my 305 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: armpits and they passed me on the physical. And I 306 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: find out later that Mike Shanahan said he passes the 307 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: physical regardless whatever his knee looks like. So that knee 308 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: in ninety four failed three physicals. And then in ninety seven, 309 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: I was a free agent again and the Chargers wanted 310 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: to sign me, and I said to Bobby Bether, their 311 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: general manager at the time, I said, if you're going 312 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: to fly me in here to take a legitimate physical, 313 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: don't waste my time and your money because I won't 314 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: pass it. But if it's just going to be one 315 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: of those fake physicals that you guys give, then yeah, 316 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm all in. And he goes, you got to pass 317 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: the real physical, then I go DoD the deals off 318 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: the table, and so that ended. So that knee that 319 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: failed four physicals, and at that point I had only 320 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: had I think nine total surgeries after ninety four and 321 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: failing those three physicals, and I think I had six 322 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: knee surgeries by the time I retired in two thousand 323 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: and one, and I was filing for in the line 324 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: of duty disability that left knee that had failed three physicals, 325 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 3: that left knee failed three physicals after six surgeries, and 326 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: had fifteen surgeries at that point on that same left knee. 327 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: And the NFL's doctors the same guys who failed me, 328 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 3: I mean part of the NFL crew, not the same doctors, 329 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: but part of the same NFL kind of quote unquote 330 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: medical team that failed me on three consecutive physicals after 331 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: only six knee surgeries on that left knee. Deemed that 332 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: my left knee, after fifteen knee surgeries and six more 333 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: years of wear and tear on that knee, didn't qualify 334 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: for in the line of duty disability, didn't qualify as 335 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: injured enough to get the disability. So the whole passing 336 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 3: a physical process is does the team want you to 337 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: pass the physical or do they want to use it 338 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: as leverage against you? And that's how the whole thing works. 339 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: There's no question in my mind if the Baltimore Ravens 340 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been able to sign Trey Hendrix if he 341 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: would have signed to Indianapolis at thirty five or forty 342 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: million dollars a year, that Max Crosby would have passed 343 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: that physical. There's no doubt in my mind. But they 344 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: gave themselves an out, and listen, man, I'm not making them. 345 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: That's just the way it works. You got the out, 346 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 3: you used it. Good for you. 347 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 5: Do you expect any repercussions for the Ravens, whether it 348 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: be from agents or other teams dealing with them, they 349 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: go head forward, or at least in the short term, 350 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 5: they got Hendrick. 351 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like Mike, this is what 352 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: I expect. I expect. It's like writing a strongly worded letter. 353 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 3: Who gives a brit You know, like eventually you know 354 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: there's gonna be general managers say that be a sid 355 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: You guys knew what you were getting into, and you 356 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: screwed the player and this, that and the other until 357 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: you've got something that they've got something that you want 358 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: and you think you can get a good deal on it, 359 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: and then you know what, that goes out the window 360 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: because you'll be dealing with Eric Dacostas and the Baltimore Ravens, 361 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: and you won't think twice about it if you think 362 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: you can. If you can that you need the upper 363 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: end on a trade or a deal stank. 364 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Final question on the way out here, who has a 365 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: better chance of succeeding? Is it Tua in Atlanta or 366 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in Minnesota? 367 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: I would say Kyler Murray in Minnesota. I think Kyler, 368 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: like Kyler Murray, just learned, needs to learn that the 369 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: spectacular is out what wins. The spectacular makes sports center highlights. 370 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: The boring wins games. And I don't know if he's 371 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: gonna learn that. I hope that he's he's at a 372 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: place in his career where it's about winning and not 373 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: being a sports center highlight, because until you fall in 374 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: love with the boring, you cannot win in this league. 375 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: Until you take what the defense gives you. When you're 376 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: scrambling around and you're making all kinds of plays, when 377 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 3: you playoff schedule, what happens is you'll make three or 378 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 3: four spectacular Sports center highlight plays that everybody writes home about, 379 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: but in the same time you'll take three sacks. You'll 380 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: have a sack, strip fumble, and you'll throw a pick 381 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: six that ends up beating you, that ends up having 382 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: the other team win, and that's what happens. So I hope, 383 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: like I love Kyler, I think he's a great kid, 384 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, yeah, I think he's I think 385 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: he's a lot of fun. I hope he learns that 386 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: because if he if he does, I think he can 387 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: have a lot of success in Minnesota with the weapons 388 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: they have. 389 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 5: Last question for me. You know, I love Mark Shlera's 390 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: stories and one of my favorites is listening to the 391 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 5: games you used to play on the field that had 392 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 5: nothing to do with football. 393 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: So can you. 394 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 5: Please explain to these guys some of the more fun 395 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 5: games you played on the field while the football game 396 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: happened to be going on. 397 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite, my favorite all time game was the 398 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: Oreally Game. And the oldreally game is something that a 399 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 3: guy by dam of Dave Harbor kind of introduced me 400 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: to with the Denver Broncos are excuse me, with the 401 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: Washington Redskins. He was our deep snapper of the time. 402 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: And the oldreally game is that I state something that 403 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: I know you know and that you know I know 404 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: right that we have common knowledge about this, but I 405 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 3: purposely stated incorrectly just so you can correct me. And 406 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: then when you correct me, I get right in your 407 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: face and I go, oh really, So here's how it works. 408 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 3: I'm standing in the huddle, and this happens a million times, 409 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: this has happened so many times. And you're waiting in 410 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: a TV time out right, and they're playing let's call 411 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: it ac DC's Back in Black. Everybody knows it, right, 412 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: everybody knows the song. And I'll turn to Tommy Nalan, 413 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: who is standing beside me. I go, dude, this is 414 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: my favorite Nazareth song off the Hair of the Dog album. Man, 415 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: this is great, and Tommy'd be like, no, no, no, no, 416 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: this is this is a CDC Back in Black. And 417 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: I get right into face like this go and then 418 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 3: you just bet in the huddle you thought that's the 419 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: funniest thing that's ever happened. And then all of a sudden, 420 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: the rest of blow the whistle and we call playing, 421 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: and you'd be like, all right, let's get locked in here. 422 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, we didn't constantly play that game in the hovel. Yeah, 423 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: I just it was just a little stupid stuff like that. 424 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: To keep yourself entertained. 425 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: Taylor is going to steal that game for the show. 426 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now. 427 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: I still play. I still play with my kids. Me 428 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: and my kids still played the o'really game, and everybody's 429 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: on high alert. We played on my rate. We played 430 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 3: the game on my radio station constantly, and everybody's high 431 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: alert because, like I think most of our listeners think 432 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: we're just idiots because we're stating things that are completely 433 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: incorrect all the time. Just to see if anybody and 434 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: here looking around going, does anybody anyone You're just out 435 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: there fishing all the time. 436 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. 437 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: Normally I'm just incorrect, but mark uh and I apologize. 438 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: One final question on the way out, because your son 439 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: played in the major plays of the majors. 440 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Are you into the World Baseball Classic tonight? 441 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: Taylor is not rooting for Team USA because of a 442 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Yankee fan, he cannot bring himself to root for Romananda. 443 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 7: No, I'm rooting for the USA. I'm just not rooting 444 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 7: for Roman Anthony when he gets out. Jeez. 445 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well okay, I mean I get that, but no, 446 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: you got to root for the uteam USA. Yeah, I'm 447 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: into it, man, I like I can't wait to like schemes. Unbelievable, right, yes, 448 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: just the unbelievable player and you know, plays for you know, 449 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: the Yankees' number one farm system, the Pittsburgh Pirates, And like, 450 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: I watch him and I just think, if that dude's healthy, 451 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: he's going to be our first billion dollar player, don't 452 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: you think. Yeah, if that dude remains healthy, he'll be 453 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: the first billion dollar Major League player. 454 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: Yep. 455 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: And uh man, I'm jealous. 456 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, have three rings, man. 457 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: Dude, I wasn't. Yeah, but I mean from a money standpoint, 458 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: I mean I was. I was working for a free 459 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: gator Rade. Like you know, have cleats will work anyone, anyone, anyone. 460 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: I've got my own cleats. You don't even have to 461 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: give me a bear physical fifteen niece injuries Jesus Christ. 462 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: Well that was just on my left. 463 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: How many on the right? 464 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: Five on my I had five on my right? 465 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean your poor left. 466 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: All right, My left one is a little bit beat up. Anyhow, 467 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 3: all right, I gotta let you phones go. I got 468 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: stuff to do, all right. 469 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Check out check out his podcast Stinking Truth. 470 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: Check out his radio show as well. Later. Oh really,