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Speaker 1: a big part of that. And I know when people

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Speaker 1: start cutting the roster they always forget about that aspect.

427
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Speaker 1: Things like that doesn't matter at all. You just keep

428
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Speaker 1: you you're not just keeping your fifty three best or

429
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Speaker 1: you're not hiding up. We're gonna put him when he's

430
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the best offensive defensive players don't make

431
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Speaker 1: the team. I not your best, but some of your

432
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Speaker 1: you know, some of the ones that are deserved it,

433
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Speaker 1: but don't make theme because they're not going on teams.

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Speaker 1: Right If you don't have a role there, um, you

435
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Speaker 1: don't have a role period. Coaches, coaches and gms I

436
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: think differently, and they both think differently the fans, but

437
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: coaches think about how do I win this game? With

438
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Speaker 1: my best you know, number of guys I'm allowed to

439
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: dress and if this guy goes down, who can feel

440
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Speaker 1: And that's what you do mcconnor Heyward, I mean three

441
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Speaker 1: probably different guys could get hurt and he could be

442
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Speaker 1: get you out of their game at their position. You

443
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, you know, so those guys

444
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Speaker 1: have extra value. Guy like General Schefski is extra value

445
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: right right right. You know he's out there catching receiver

446
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: drills now, but he's here for special team. But he's

447
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 1: gonna be active when people are talking about cutting this

448
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Speaker 1: roster and like they don't even mentioned General. She had.

449
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: In fact, we heard, uh you know with west Euler

450
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Speaker 1: and Arthur Moates the show before us. There there's a

451
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Speaker 1: question on Twitter, like, you know, how do you rate

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Speaker 1: the rank these guys. General Schefski might be one on

453
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Speaker 1: that list. It was Miller Boykin Aschewski. Yeah, General Schefski

454
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Speaker 1: is making this He's making the team. Yeah, I mean

455
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Speaker 1: on game day, who's gonna catch more passes? He'll be last.

456
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Speaker 1: Different question in terms of value to the football team,

457
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Speaker 1: gunners one or two. Miller has been really impressed. I

458
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Speaker 1: would have put him one because I think he's had

459
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Speaker 1: a really good camp and he's going to be a

460
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Speaker 1: factor on offense where I don't want Gunner to be

461
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Speaker 1: a factor on offense. But he's making this team right. Yeah,

462
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, so the depth that it's

463
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver position is good, Verry. We'll see if

464
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Speaker 1: it stays that way throughout the course of preseason, but um,

465
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Speaker 1: you know, things things happen out there. But even like

466
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Speaker 1: some of the down the line guys, Tyler Vaughns is

467
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Speaker 1: flashed at times, and uh, you know Sims and yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, Cody White has just keeps making plays out

469
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Speaker 1: like a cockroach. He never goes away, man, He just

470
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Speaker 1: keeps working and working and you can't kill him. Yeah. Um, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think they've got good depth there. Maybe

472
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Speaker 1: not the kind of well other teams would look at

473
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Speaker 1: and go, well, we gotta have that guy or that guy.

474
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Speaker 1: But st Johnson has really good feet. But he really

475
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Speaker 1: does people forget I'm watching his first yeah, sweet feet.

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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of his separator. Yeah, I mean, I mean,

477
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Speaker 1: even like Pickens is an amazingly talented guy, this drill

478
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Speaker 1: isn't for him compared to doing like a little stutter

479
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Speaker 1: step around these cones and changing the sections and then

480
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Speaker 1: they come back and drive back to the ball like

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Speaker 1: that's you know, like they're running a route and that's

482
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Speaker 1: not picking strong suit. But boy Johnson looks great when

483
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Speaker 1: he does. He's just super smooth at the chopping the

484
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Speaker 1: feet and keeping him moving and the body. Like you

485
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Speaker 1: could sell things like that like if if his if

486
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Speaker 1: his the eye level never really changes. Yeah, that's that's

487
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Speaker 1: one thing that you look for. That's like a sprinter

488
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Speaker 1: thing too. Like you you watch those guys or picture

489
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Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson when he broke away in the open field.

490
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Speaker 1: Is his head would come up and he was just

491
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Speaker 1: smooz smooth, smooth as he separates from everybody. You know,

492
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Speaker 1: it's not as easy to do as you think it is, not. Yeah,

493
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Speaker 1: you want I mean you watch your eye level here

494
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: very rarely. It doesn't change a whole lot, and you

495
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Speaker 1: know what happens. There's something that you tell batters a

496
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: lot actually when you're coaching baseball, is like when you

497
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Speaker 1: change that eye level when your swing, if you if

498
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: you overstride or something like that, in your eyes go

499
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Speaker 1: from from up here to down here. We just change

500
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: how you're looking at ball right, change if you're the ball.

501
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice is like the best example too. But smooth,

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Speaker 1: it's smooth. But all these receivers strive to make their

503
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Speaker 1: stem of the route. It's a route tree, there's a stem,

504
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Speaker 1: there's a trunk. You know that before you make your break,

505
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Speaker 1: before you distinguish what route you everything looks. Everything looks

506
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Speaker 1: the same. You come off the line of scrimmage, exactly

507
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Speaker 1: the same. Your head's exactly the shame, your posture, your shoulders,

508
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Speaker 1: your body lean because the dbs are gonna pick it

509
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Speaker 1: up on tape, right. I mean it doesn't mean they're

510
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Speaker 1: gonna stop it, but it's it's one tell that you

511
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Speaker 1: can give them. And Ice is the poster boy. I mean,

512
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Speaker 1: he's the best ever at that. Yeah, that's what you know.

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Speaker 1: Every route he ran looked exactly the same. And that's

514
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Speaker 1: why the post looks like a curl, it looks like

515
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: a big which the four six guys, it didn't matter,

516
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Speaker 1: it didn't matter right right, because he was just that smooth.

517
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're in your pedal. Is he gonna take

518
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Speaker 1: me to that house? Or is he gonna break this

519
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Speaker 1: thing off? I gotta I gotta react and I'm in

520
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Speaker 1: trouble and he knows where he's going and you don't,

521
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: and so does Joe. See yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, so

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to seeing

523
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Speaker 1: the first unit offensive line. I talked to a couple

524
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Speaker 1: of the alignment today about it. Um, And I know

525
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: people like I think sometimes fans and media members overreact

526
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Speaker 1: to the one on one blocking drills. Oh, without question.

527
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: You know, Um, it's not necessarily about who wins and

528
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: and loses those things. And obviously it does matter you're

529
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Speaker 1: getting your butt whipped all the time and doing this

530
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Speaker 1: making the same mistake. Um, But it's just about getting

531
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: those reps in because you offensive line blocking is sell

532
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: them just a one on one job. No, it never is.

533
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: It never, And it's more of a technique situation. Or

534
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Speaker 1: you know, as he's sinking his hips enough as he

535
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Speaker 1: able to redirec can he get out all his cleats

536
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Speaker 1: in the ground? You know? Is he those type of things.

537
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: It's a useful tool, but it's not an exact simulation

538
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Speaker 1: of game day. Said well t J watches whoop chokes

539
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: the core for again? No kidding, Yeah, yeah, that doesn't

540
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Speaker 1: mean to believe and it could be Lane Johnson or

541
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: Ram Check or whomever, some great right tackle. But no

542
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: team's ever gonna leave t J. Wat consistently one on

543
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: one with the right tack. Now, that's just a recipe

544
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Speaker 1: for disaster. And the Steels aren't gonna leave Chukes alone

545
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: with top rushers from that that side of the field. Yeah,

546
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: you just don't do that. That's silly, right right, Why

547
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: would you do that. You're gonna combo block with him,

548
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna have He's gonna at least have a chipper

549
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: back there to help. All that being said, I'm looking

550
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: at the old line, I think even more than the quarterbacks,

551
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, for these games, because I I want to

552
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: get a positive feel for whoa four team making. I

553
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: think he got in there. Yeah, he got that in.

554
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: Get the feet down, throwing fades here at the corner

555
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: of the ends own and Pickens again makes a phenomenal play. Yeah,

556
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: he just does that every day, does every day every

557
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Union nine. Um, we had that discussion a lot yesterday. Yeah,

558
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: we'll get back into that. But I think fans are

559
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna like what they see from him. Oh I think so, Yeah,

560
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean that what he just did there is hard

561
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: to pull off and he does it all the time. Yeah,

562
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: like makes the the spectacular look routine very much so.

563
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: And the routine looked well routine and Miles boy could Yeah,

564
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: that was very nice. He started to flash a little

565
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 1: bit more here and good last week or so. I

566
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: liked them coming out of school. I didn't think he

567
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: was overdrafted at all. And and I know he's just big, strong, fast,

568
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: but I think there's more two him than just that too.

569
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Speaker 1: And what I don't know, does he help on teams?

570
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll keep an eye on that. Something. When

571
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: they they were doing gunner work the other day and

572
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: I wrote just down, Um, I remember we were in

573
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Speaker 1: the air he was doing gunner work. Yeah. So the

574
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: first the first team guys were James Pierre and Anthony

575
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Speaker 1: Miller as gunners and then the second and interesting that

576
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Speaker 1: it's Miller, yeah I mean, and then yeah, absolutely, the

577
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: second unit was Boykin and and h Lane in Lane. Okay,

578
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: so in Lane did a fair amount of it last year,

579
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: you know, right, So now that's good. I mean, no

580
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: matter what happens, if Boykin makes his team, he can't

581
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: be a non factor on special You gotta be a factor.

582
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: The only difference between him and those other guys that

583
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: we just mentioned. The other three guys are more twitchy

584
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: than him. He's bigger, stronger, but he's not a quicker

585
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: or explosive you know, the first couple of steps kind

586
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 1: of guy accelerator. Yeah, and I can imagine General Schefski

587
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: is pretty good at that too. Oh, I would think

588
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: he could be. He might be their best gunner and

589
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: they just already know it. Yeah. Either question with it

590
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: with General Schefski is like is he gonna knock himself

591
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: out in the game or something, because he's just at

592
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: full speed into everything to smash whatever is in front

593
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: of It's like thousand people like watching him too. I mean,

594
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know some of you probably go get

595
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: a beer, use a bathroom whatever during special teams, but

596
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: in this preseason, especially especially a hundred percent, but I

597
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: mean I think Gunner will be a favorite of the

598
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: crowds as well. Absolutely. You know, the verocity in which

599
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: he plays the game and the aggression he is aggressive

600
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: and plays it like place wide receiver like a defensive back. Yeah. Well,

601
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: and plays special teams like he was a defensive back

602
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: that he was and he's just he's not afraid to

603
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: tackle people and hit people and do things like that.

604
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: So I think he'll be a valuable member on this team.

605
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: I know they're throwing routes versus there in the end

606
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: zone right now, there's doing working on this specific route combination.

607
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: But they've been throwing good balls. I mean the balls

608
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: coming out on time, Crisp, you know, a lot better

609
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: than it was two weeks ago. This drill would have

610
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: been much uglier two weeks ago. Yeah, I agree, And

611
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: and we're even seeing Christal Loticon out there as well. Yeah,

612
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: but he's why they can't They can't do anything with

613
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. He can't trade Mason Rudolph with Chris A longcome.

614
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: Was not even mentioned as a possibility to play in

615
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: this preseason game. And he's taken like two snaps, twos right,

616
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: and in any kind of team stuff in this entire

617
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: camp like his can't go into him to see with

618
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: him his number three. His Steeler story really starts here

619
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: next next year. Yeah, this is all about him getting

620
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: a year of learning on the practice squad and then

621
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: why did you draft him? We had to get somebody here,

622
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: and you're gonna come to camp with four arms who's

623
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: that fourth arm gonna be if if on him? Because

624
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: nobody else was gonna want to sign here. Nobody would

625
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: want to sign, right, I mean you just you just sign,

626
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: wanted to sign knowing you're gonna get no snaps. You

627
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: signed the quarterback, and you drafted one in the first round,

628
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: the only one in the first round. You'd rather sign

629
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: with the chiefs ort and you have no chance to start.

630
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: You have no chance to start anywhere is the undrafted

631
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: free age. You might as well go somewhere you can

632
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: at least get snaps, and that's not here. I mean,

633
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: the only team that took a first round quarterback. You

634
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: don't want to go there. No, you know they're gonna

635
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Speaker 1: get him last week. I do think it's interesting, Matt.

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Speaker 1: You know, back in twenty nineteen when uh the Steelers

637
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: that was Mason Rudolph's second year, um they got They

638
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: didn't play Landry Jones a lot in the preseason. He

639
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: didn't get many snaps at all, even in even in

640
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: training camp. It was all basically Mason Rudolph and Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and then you know, we're it was kind of

642
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Speaker 1: assumed at that point, well, Lander is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: number two, but Mason had played well enough in the

644
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: preseason if that didn't matter, they went ahead and made

645
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: the move to put him in at number two. They're

646
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: still giving Mason Rudolph that there's number two snaps. Yeah,

647
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: that's a good point. So he's not definitely, he's not

648
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Speaker 1: getting where they like him and he's he's valuable and

649
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: you wouldn't get hard back in return. Yeah. Absolutely, we're

650
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Speaker 1: gonna take another break as the Steelers line up to

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Speaker 1: get to us seven shots. He is Matt Williams and

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Speaker 1: I am DaLie Lollly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back live from Saint Vincent College right after this. He's

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Speaker 1: the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home

656
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Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

657
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lilli here with Matt Williamson and uh, well,

658
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: the offense just one seven shots here and they still

659
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: got two opportunities left. Uh I met around for a while,

660
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: but this has to be as good as seven shots

661
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: performance as they put on pretty good, pretty slick. Yeah.

662
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Apparently they are going live today so we can We

663
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: don't think that's whether Anthony Carlon got into the end

664
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: zone or not. He did a point yeah. Um, so

665
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: they're they're five for five right now. Um pickens first

666
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: one was beautiful, just plucking. And he has two of

667
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: them already. He's got two from Trabisky, one on both

668
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: sides and so not just so he's been high pointing

669
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: the football over somebody, I mean mossing them, plucking it over.

670
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: They got one on camp, Sutton got one on the

671
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: on the Levi Wallace and Kenny pick it out there

672
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: now and that's intercepted. No, Yes, I think gets the ground,

673
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: hit the ground, he threw it into traffic. Probably should

674
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: have thrown that one away. Uh got deflected, bounced around

675
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: in the air a little bit. Exactly. You don't want, yes,

676
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: especially in the end zone. You don't want that to happen. Uh.

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00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: Sets the offenses first oil you're on this. Are we

678
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: seeing Rudolph out there now? Um? The final chance here

679
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: the quarter must be because I see try biscuit and

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00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't he stay. He usually steps into the huddle.

681
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Ye that's him, yep. So we'll see what Mason Rudolph

682
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: does here, gets down here split wide is Stephen Sims

683
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the here and uh, nobody up top.

684
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: If we get everybody tight up, the kind of a

685
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: bunch set to the road under center and little play

686
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: action looking wasn't a bad ball now, White probably should

687
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: have caught that the coverage was good, put the ball

688
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: where he could make a play, and he probably should

689
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: have hauled that one in. Um, a couple of plays

690
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: stood out there. I mean Pickens is a star. I mean,

691
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: what he's doing here in the first fifteen minutes of

692
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: practice just reminds me of how special he can be

693
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: and might be already. Um, nice tunnel screen that they

694
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: scored onto, getting it well executed, got at the miller

695
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: right away. Miller's more physical than, as we've often told you,

696
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: than the average slot guy. He powered his way through

697
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: the end zone, got low, got his pads down, and

698
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: drove in. And again that was you know, full go.

699
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are tackling, they're blasting each other.

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00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: And Uh offense did real well early on there, led

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Speaker 1: by Trabiski. Yeah, absolutely, Uh offense. I guess when's that

702
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: four to three? I guess the last no, no, general

703
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: Schoefski got him once too on that uh yes, and

704
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: that little jet sweep. So it's five to They lost

705
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: the last two, but they won the first one. They

706
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: lost yesterday five two and Mason Rudolph had the only

707
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: two completions. So that comes back around again. Well, now

708
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: we got this is always a fun drill. So yet

709
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: running backs versus linebackers here in the in the gauntlet,

710
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: they had about ten yards to work with here. Uh

711
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: and then oh, I see what you're doing. Ye, there's tackling.

712
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: This is this is physical. There's cones set up. They

713
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: have a they have a ten yard runway, big pile

714
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: defensive players mostly d backs and linebackers is good imagine,

715
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: and ball carriers. So let's see how this goes. Six.

716
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: So I assume he has to stay between the coast

717
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: and he has he has either way to work with her.

718
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: So getting into him, he's got to find the defender quickly.

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00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: This is the drill the other day that uh, Arthur

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Millette did this like nine out of the out of

721
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: the thirty nine times that they were in the drill,

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00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: he he took nine of the snaps. And that he

723
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: was just out there constantly and he's up now I

724
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: believe Ah yeah he is, so let's see what he's

725
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: how he does here? Is that Maka's that's making He

726
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: forced a fumble on who is he? Yeah, and then

727
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: he chucked the ball on the up in the air

728
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: and they all fired up, winding winding people up the

729
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: rep before that, Warren didn't break free, but I wouldn't

730
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Speaker 1: say he lost the rep either. He was really low

731
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: and he got knocked just out of bounds, but it

732
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: was still a nice run. A good collision there. Trey

733
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Speaker 1: Norwood getting this is a good This is definitely a

734
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: good master t on the ground there, but mastertigue falling

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00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: forward which is yeah, he gets and fills the cow

736
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Speaker 1: your backs to do. Yeah, this drills. This is where

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00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: like Derek walk Out banged up the other day. Connor Heyward,

738
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: nice job tackling, Very nice job, Kello Weatherspoon getting Connor

739
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: Heyward a bigger guy down in the open field there.

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00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: I've been raving about Hayward, but what showed up to

741
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: me there was he doesn't have the instant acceleration falland

742
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: or somebody like that, you know, and he's a different

743
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: type of athlete. Karl Joseph getting beaten there by h

744
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: Tyler Vaughans in the open field and kind of blame

745
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: Joseph on that one. Yeah, he can't. He kind of

746
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: dropped his head. Oh over going over. I think he

747
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: got his toes into Yeah, that was over justin lane there,

748
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like it was. It wasn't a bad tackle.

749
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: It was just kind of very he was there and

750
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: then he wasn't. And that's a nice tackle. That was

751
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: form tackle. Drive him out of bound. Even Sim's getting

752
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: taken down by Arthur let yet shines here. That's a

753
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: tough dude. That was well done. Yeah, I say, boy can, guys, Miles,

754
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: boy can. Working against his acceleration there took me a

755
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: little by surprise. Hotel such a big guy. Oh, little

756
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: oaky dokee to the inside, packed him out of his shoes.

757
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: That's Calvin Austin's the beep beep speed. Yeah, and not

758
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: a lot to hit either. No, all right, well, okay

759
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: by Wallace, Oh I got the ball out. And the

760
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: thing Wallace did there too, was a little more like

761
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: a game situation. He's like, I'm a corner. I'm not

762
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna give him the sideline. If he's gonna beat me,

763
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: it's to the middle where I have all the help.

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00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he played it like a corner does, not

765
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: just run up and black. I like what Tom Bradley

766
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: said about him last night when we did the show together.

767
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: It's like, look, if you played at Alabama, yeah you

768
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: know how to tackle. You're not to tackle, right, you

769
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 1: know that's that's a nick Saban. You better you're gonna

770
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: hit live in practice. And if you're a walk on

771
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: Alabama and end up being a starter on the national

772
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: championship team, you know how to tackle. Okay. So here

773
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: we got this makeup Fitzpatrick and the gun gunner Alschewski.

774
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: Let's say premium matchup here, little make a big, little

775
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: shake shake. He forced him out of bounce, and Minko

776
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: handled that like a free safety like I don't I

777
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: can't destroy him, but he can't get past me. I'm

778
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: gonna break down by half a second more. And then

779
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: the cavalry arrives and I'm gonna stay squared to him.

780
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: All right, So now we get just given they want

781
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: to see that again reloading it. This is Mike Tomlin. Yeah,

782
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: you guys this all the time for backs on backers

783
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. Now, at that time, he attacked real ground like, Okay,

784
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if Tomlin told him, hey, don't play it

785
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: past you'll get him. Go be a guy, you don't

786
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: get him, especially because his last rep. Alright, so boy

787
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: can here? Nah that was White and that's Cody White

788
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: and James Pierre. White's a monotone guy. Yeah we got here.

789
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: This is thirteen, I think, Yeah, Myles Boykin and I

790
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: can't tell who the dB is here, but he said

791
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: he's coming up hard. Okay, nice job that was. That

792
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: was Hayward. It wasn't Oh that was Hayward. Yeah. Yeah,

793
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: he laid the lumber as the Monte case either. That's

794
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: a nice little match up there. I mean, Heywards a

795
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: lot heavier than him. Neither one was bashful about that collision. No,

796
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: they were not. He came up hard. This this practice

797
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: might be a smidge more physical than we thought. But

798
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: I just I just tweeted that on him, like I

799
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: didn't expect this, maybe because yesterday was so lackadaisical. Yeah,

800
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: nicely done. Oh, mastertigue just running Yeah true, Chris Steele.

801
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: That's a that's a running back against a cornerback, and

802
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: he's a lot bigger than he just stiff armed him

803
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: to the ground, put him on the ground. It was

804
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: sucking windshield there. Yeah, all right, ran right over him.

805
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Here's I think our guy, don't know, given him another REPIPS.

806
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: So they're gonna do this when they reloaded that one.

807
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: You can't let that go on. You got to do

808
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: that again. If you're Mr Steele, you need to step

809
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: you better. You better win this one. You better win

810
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: this one. So here we go, coming up. He's coming

811
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: up hard. Oh yeah, very nice. But he did step

812
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: out though. I don't know if you caught this though,

813
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: but the coach that flipptigue. The ball didn't do him

814
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: any favors. It was like up here and neither field.

815
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: It weird and you couldn't get up the full speed

816
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: as quick. Okay, everybody, Tyler Vaughan's getting inside to give

817
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: him a little dead leg there on. Yeah, untouched. Lyndon

818
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: Stephens just took the outside and boom, almost the same.

819
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Notother one. Next up, there's another one. If you're a

820
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: d back, you can't allow a l a here. No, No,

821
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: that's that's not what you You got at least slow

822
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: the guy down. Oh that's just beat to the outside.

823
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: I didn't say that was nice. Warren. Yeah against I

824
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: mean that drill was over before the defensive back even

825
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: got involved. He showed faster, and I think people think,

826
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: you said, you see that frame and you don't necessarily

827
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: think speed. Now they're flipping it around, they go the

828
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: other way. So this is this is round two. But

829
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: he's also an accelerator, like he got the full speed quickly. Oh,

830
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: offense getting the better of this will last year. I mean,

831
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: this is an offensive it is, but still I'd like

832
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: that they were getting a lot more body on him

833
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: earlier on. You're listening to our live coverage here on

834
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: ESPN nine seventy and Steelers Nation Radio, and uh well

835
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: there goes uh Calvin Austin. A nice job there, it was, yeah,

836
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: and you see that he's not gonna run through tackles

837
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: or run people. And they inside his game. But Carlin's

838
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: plateel getting Calvin Austin on the ground there, this is

839
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: this will be McFarland. This is a this is a drill.

840
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: I would think you'd chine at Okay, okay, that's okay,

841
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: what have you all done. I liked how he kept

842
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: driving his legs. Ye, yeah, I mean they had his

843
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: his undershirt there and he wasn't getting loose, but that

844
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: shirt started out as a medium and snowing XHL and

845
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: out down on his knees. But the defensive back didn't

846
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: give up either, and that was Shutting doing his job,

847
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Cam Shutting getting them on the ground. There's Pickens and oh,

848
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: good job there. Yeah, James Pierre getting uh getting George

849
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: Picks on the ground. George Picks one said again, he says,

850
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: run that back on that back. I can do that.

851
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: I can do that better. Coach dem it to him. Yeah,

852
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: only one person asked for that. Yeah, absolutely, here we

853
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: go again. They tried to go up, they go over

854
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: the top, but he got him out of bounce. The

855
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: jumping swell and all of the fans. But I don't

856
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: want to see a lot of leaping guys. I mean

857
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: that's you're you're not in high school. No that you're

858
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: not gonna get away with that a lot. I hope

859
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: that's not his go to move after you know, one

860
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: on one with the d back that was quick by.

861
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: That's eighty four. That is a Tyler Steed. I don't

862
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: know him. He's a little guy ato East Carolina. There's Boykins. Boykin,

863
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: nice job there, he's not easy to tackle. No, there's

864
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: there's he gets big. You know, the lakes keep churning

865
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: and I keep picturing him like catching your plant. Again

866
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: it comes Mstrtigue and this is his this is his thrill. Yeah,

867
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: he's actually shining in here. Yeah. One on one, he's

868
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna run over these defensive backs. Here we go. Oh

869
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: they put a linebacker against Mark Robinson and he's still

870
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: but he still ran over Mark. Good for him, Good

871
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: for him. That's the kind of stuff you need to

872
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: do when you show up late to camp and you know,

873
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: start to make it open right open some eyes everyone

874
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: camps watching that. He can be a power guy. I

875
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: want to see that again. Naji wants to see that again.

876
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: They're giving it to him. Okay, so Mark Robinson against

877
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: master Tigue again. Here what coach loves us? Yeah, Nagy

878
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: Harris is he wanted to see that one bad. He

879
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: came running in. Let's see that again, coach obliged, Yeah,

880
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: here we go. Oh yeahs Mark Robinson is stuck him

881
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, he's letting them know it. It wasn't

882
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: a bad run by tea collision, but Robinson has made

883
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: a very short time. All they're gonna do with here's

884
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: the throu al right, the rubber match, like the thrill

885
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: of Minilla. Here we go, both guys wanting this one

886
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: and see what how how this one goes down? He

887
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: just tried to power through him again that time. Maybe

888
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: let's see if he goes to a little more shaking

889
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: bake here this time, a little different than going against

890
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: the defensive back. Yeah. Oh absolutely, he died on the ground.

891
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: Good job. I think he got him on the ground.

892
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: I think so, too sure if the knee hit or not.

893
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: I think the helmet hit to the helmet hit hit

894
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: the ground, So that's the same as a I think

895
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: that's how they're gonna wrap the drill. That's a great

896
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: tree tried to spin off of the tackle there. But

897
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: that was good physicality there in natural and you see

898
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Mike Tom and calling everybody in there kind of go

899
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: that's right. That's what I wanted to see. That's what

900
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to see. Absolutely And there wasn't very many

901
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: bad reps there at all. No, absolutely not. He is

902
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lully. You're listening to the

903
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy

904
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break here live from Steelers training

905
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: camp at same Fencon College. We'll be back with more

906
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Speaker 1: right after this