Speaker 1: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
Speaker 1: and everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
Speaker 2: came in.
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this is another
Speaker 1: episode of the Latest with Lauren le Rosa, where we
Speaker 1: are your daily dig into all things pop culture, entertainment,
Speaker 1: news and the conversations that shake the room and from
Speaker 1: checking in behind the scenes of the Grind, because y'all
Speaker 1: know we do our check ins here. I am feeling
Speaker 1: a bit confused today, and my confusion doesn't come from
Speaker 1: anything in my life whatsoever. The confusion comes because I
Speaker 1: was in court yesterday. Y'all know, I've been in court
Speaker 1: with Diddy, well not with him, like I'm not on trial.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with any of the freak
Speaker 1: afts or any of those things, but just monitoring the
Speaker 1: case to be able to report it to you guys.
Speaker 1: And for days now, I've been trying to figure out
Speaker 1: why the government decided that Jane Doe, the woman who
Speaker 1: was currently testifying on the stand, and the woman who
Speaker 1: you know is the most recent girlfriend of Shawn Colmbs
Speaker 1: who take the stand, why she needed to be on
Speaker 1: the stand as a government witness. Now the audio that
Speaker 1: you guys are about to hear in this conversation of
Speaker 1: the breakdown of what I witness yesterday, the disaster on
Speaker 1: the stand that our witness yesterday, it's going to sound
Speaker 1: a bit different because I do these breakdowns from outside
Speaker 1: of court and oftentimes once I get back home and
Speaker 1: I've let my thoughts process from court, and this is
Speaker 1: what this is. But I wanted to bring this conversation
Speaker 1: exclusively to the podcast before I took it anywhere else.
Speaker 2: So let's take a listening.
Speaker 1: You guys, tell me what you think, because I'm confused,
Speaker 1: why is she on the stand? We need to have
Speaker 1: a very real conversation about Jane Do, who has been
Speaker 1: testifying on the stand for days now at this point
Speaker 1: and the Shawn Combs trial, because at this point I
Speaker 1: am confused what the government.
Speaker 2: By putting her on the stand.
Speaker 1: The government was doing such a good job at laying
Speaker 1: out their case. They have done a good job at
Speaker 1: laying at their case, laying out their case, and then
Speaker 1: they thought Jane Do on the stand, and I get it,
Speaker 1: like all the lawyers that be lawyering are going to
Speaker 1: be upset at me because I am not a lawyer.
Speaker 1: I am a person in the court room getting an
Speaker 1: honest opinion about what I'm singing, what I'm hearing, what
Speaker 1: I'm witnessing, and how I'm feeling. And I'm feeling like
Speaker 1: the government could have did without Jane Doe. She's actually
Speaker 1: ruining the perception of this whole case. Today June twelfth,
Speaker 1: Jane Doe was back on the stand.
Speaker 2: First get in court today.
Speaker 1: There is a huge meeting that is happening. There is
Speaker 1: confusion about what is going on. Like, I mean, court
Speaker 1: was shut down, like they went into a side room,
Speaker 1: a lead counsel, the judge, the judge, everybody was allowed
Speaker 1: to basically like take a break. And at first when
Speaker 1: I arrived there, it was said to me like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out if Jane Doe doesn't want
Speaker 1: to testify, and if she doesn't want to testify, it'll
Speaker 1: go into a mistrial. And I'm like, why wouldn't she
Speaker 1: want to testify? Why would that equal mistrial? Like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to work through all this stuff in my mind.
Speaker 1: Later on, other things came out that I guess we're
Speaker 1: at play at this time, and you know, people come
Speaker 1: into court not coming to court.
Speaker 2: We don't got to get into all that. They start
Speaker 2: the testimony.
Speaker 1: We get in court and Mark Agnifilio is asking for uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Diddy to be brought up on what they
Speaker 1: just had conversations about in the sidebar room. The judge
Speaker 1: is like, well, I don't feel like that's anything that
Speaker 1: needs to be talked about in open court. Mark Agnofilio
Speaker 1: is like, you know, I understand the judges in the
Speaker 1: court's concerns, but my concern is is that this is
Speaker 1: supposed to be a public court.
Speaker 2: Things are supposed to be public for a reason.
Speaker 1: If we're redacting certain names and you know, all these
Speaker 1: different things, right, it doesn't make it where it's public.
Speaker 2: So they're arguing about Jane Doe's testimony to come.
Speaker 1: The reason why I'm telling you guys all this like
Speaker 1: the argument's post court resuming after this meeting is because
Speaker 1: it's important in how she testified for the rest of
Speaker 1: the day, Jane Doe. So as they're arguing, what basically
Speaker 1: happens is the judge decides, okay, we can talk about
Speaker 1: certain things, but again I'm standing on how I felt
Speaker 1: that there are certain names, no matter what the events are,
Speaker 1: that you talk about that should not be mentioned. The
Speaker 1: government brought up the point of, okay, if these names
Speaker 1: are mentioned, this is just another way for the victim
Speaker 1: to feel like she's being harassed. Diddy's team was arguing, like, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what this is. The Only reason why we're
Speaker 1: calling this out is because the court has a duty,
Speaker 1: you know, when there is a public trial, for the
Speaker 1: public to be kept abreast to everything and all parties
Speaker 1: involved in things of that nature, especially because some of
Speaker 1: these people will potentially come back up in other testimony.
Speaker 1: Judge was not with it. Jane Doe enters back in
Speaker 1: takes the sin. Now the conversation begins. Simply when we
Speaker 1: come back into conversation, the defense is already shaping a
Speaker 1: narrative that y'all.
Speaker 2: Were in this.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even call it a relationship, because she even
Speaker 1: admitted on the stand that it really wasn't a relationship.
Speaker 1: She wanted it to be a relationship, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But they had this thing that they were dealing with
Speaker 1: each other. He was taking care of her financially to
Speaker 1: a certain extent, and they were engaging any sexual acts.
Speaker 1: All of her cross and like all of her testimony
Speaker 1: prior to this, you know, when she's on direct with
Speaker 1: the government, she's making it a point to have the
Speaker 1: conversation that, like she didn't want to be involved in
Speaker 1: the free calls, she's alleging that she was only doing
Speaker 1: them because this was how she had to do.
Speaker 2: This is what she had to do to keep her partner.
Speaker 1: This is also what she had to do to hold
Speaker 1: a lifestyle because at this point, you know, Diddy is
Speaker 1: paying for the home that she lives in. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: you know, giving her money to live off of and
Speaker 1: basically funding her lifestyle. And she had a kid. You know,
Speaker 1: she's only receiving five thousand dollars a month in child
Speaker 1: support from her child's father, like the way she's really
Speaker 1: sustained in her life, and even the money she's making
Speaker 1: on only fans, like she had talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: in her testimony, she makes fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: She was making fifty thousand dollars you know, at one
Speaker 2: point from OnlyFans.
Speaker 1: But Diddy was doing a lot for her, and she
Speaker 1: alleges that, you know that with the fact that she.
Speaker 2: Just loved him and wanted to be with him and
Speaker 2: wanted more from him.
Speaker 1: Relationship wise, and she felt like the you know, these
Speaker 1: nights that they were having with these escorts and all
Speaker 1: these things is what would get her to that point.
Speaker 1: And then a defense brings back in the conversation about
Speaker 1: Jane Doe buying Diddy a TV, like a small portable
Speaker 1: like TV, says that she brought the TV for his
Speaker 1: birthday because she wanted him to be able to watch
Speaker 1: their tapes from their you know, the nights that they had. Now,
Speaker 1: later in her testimony did in the redirect, which is
Speaker 1: where the government comes back on, they make sure that
Speaker 1: they bring back in the fact that when you talked
Speaker 1: about this TV, when we talk about the TV, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's you know, let's have the conversation that the
Speaker 1: reason why you brought this TV is because when you
Speaker 1: guys would have these movie nights where you would sit
Speaker 1: and watch the videos, you wouldn't have to actually have
Speaker 1: sex with these other men. Jane Doe is alleging that
Speaker 1: she brought this television almost it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: decoy where it was lessen the amount of times that
Speaker 1: she had allegedly have sex with these other men. Of course,
Speaker 1: Diddy's team comes in and they're you know, leaning in
Speaker 1: on a narrative of no, you brought the television allegedly
Speaker 1: because you were, you were with it, you were encouraging it,
Speaker 1: you were, you know what I mean, gratifying it. And
Speaker 1: that is what, like the Diddy's whole team's point today
Speaker 1: was he didn't even know that you didn't like these things,
Speaker 1: and when he knew, he changed how he went about them,
Speaker 1: or at least attempted to change how he went about them.
Speaker 1: Told you, you guys need to communicate more so he knows
Speaker 1: what's going on and he knows how you're feeling.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So then we get into the time after Cassie's lawsuit
Speaker 1: drops that she needed some time to work through her
Speaker 1: feelings after all this happened, because she says that it
Speaker 1: was a lot for her to stomach and to deal with.
Speaker 1: But she also says that it was just a lot
Speaker 1: for her because when she saw Cassie's lawsuit and read
Speaker 1: the details of the lawsuit, she felt crazy because this meant.
Speaker 2: That there was a whole other woman that.
Speaker 1: Was experiencing the same things that she had been experiencing,
Speaker 1: and it kind of messed her up a bit because
Speaker 1: she's like, Okay, if you're doing all these things with
Speaker 1: another woman.
Speaker 2: I'm already super sensitive about it. You have Jane Doe.
Speaker 1: She you know, she's talking about how she felt lesser
Speaker 1: then because he was doing all these things with her
Speaker 1: and basically just using her allegedly, right, she alleges that
Speaker 1: she was just being exploited sexually but not getting what
Speaker 1: she wanted in return.
Speaker 2: And now she sees that.
Speaker 1: This it wasn't something special that he was only doing
Speaker 1: with her that while they were taking his break, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, she alleges that did he was assistant and
Speaker 1: he was reaching out to her.
Speaker 2: So eventually they ended up linking back up one month
Speaker 2: after Cassie's lawsuit.
Speaker 1: One of the things defense did on Cross with Jane
Speaker 1: Doe was relationship from the beginning of her testimony, even
Speaker 1: when she was talking to the government, and you could
Speaker 1: tell was like she was very emotionally tied to the relationship.
Speaker 1: She talks about still loving Diddy, she talks about, you know,
Speaker 1: resenting him because of how much she loved him. And
Speaker 1: this is all prior to today. So the defense did
Speaker 1: a really good job today of using that show that
Speaker 1: at one point their relationship got emotional to the point
Speaker 1: where they begin having these deep conversations and moments, and
Speaker 1: it still wasn't communicated the Best two Diddy allegedly, even
Speaker 1: though he was asking her to communicate that she didn't
Speaker 1: want to be doing these free gofs. It was more
Speaker 1: so the way that they positioned it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: y'all would have these deep conversations. You know, y'all would
Speaker 1: get into these emotional conversations, these text message convers and
Speaker 1: they were playing voice notes in the court. But this
Speaker 1: whole time, Diddy is asking you and literally they were
Speaker 1: showing us, you know, and like talking about certain instances
Speaker 1: where he was literally saying to her, and they were
Speaker 1: asking Jane Doe, did he not say this to you?
Speaker 2: And she was like yes.
Speaker 1: They're like Diddy was asking you to communicate more, and
Speaker 1: she was like, yes, were you guys having very emotional
Speaker 1: conversations where y'all were like really going in depth about
Speaker 1: how you felt, things that happened, you know, your resentment,
Speaker 1: all these things.
Speaker 2: She says, yes.
Speaker 1: They talk about the fact that again Diddy didn't know
Speaker 1: how she felt. There was one you know, because prior
Speaker 1: to this, there was a conversation of when everything first dropped,
Speaker 1: when you know, he was having a conversation with her about, oh,
Speaker 1: this was consensual. You know, I didn't know you felt
Speaker 1: that way. So his team then comes in and really
Speaker 1: digs into that. They started talking about how after the
Speaker 1: Cassie dropped things changed in his relationship with Jane Doe,
Speaker 1: because if we remember how Jane though was positioned by
Speaker 1: the government, right, the government positioned Jane Doe and Diddy's
Speaker 1: life as a woman who very in love, very loyal
Speaker 1: to him, didn't have any say so over what she
Speaker 1: was doing because of the power that he had over her,
Speaker 1: the financial rain, the threats to stop paying her rent,
Speaker 1: just the you know, how much she loved him and
Speaker 1: wanted to please him. Now on the defense, for the
Speaker 1: defense today, while she's on the trial, while she's on
Speaker 1: the stand, they counter that whole like that whole shaping
Speaker 1: that we've had, which is why I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know why the government leaned in on her as like
Speaker 1: their last real like like witness witness that we hear
Speaker 1: from before they start, you know, ending their remarks because
Speaker 1: the government is going to be done by the end
Speaker 1: of next week. They said either Wednesday or Friday. I
Speaker 1: really don't understand their way of thinking. Know that she
Speaker 1: feels in some color for some of the some of
Speaker 1: the things, some of the charges, But.
Speaker 2: To me, it just moneies the argument too much. When
Speaker 2: these legal team.
Speaker 1: Comes in and they're having a conversation with her about
Speaker 1: things changing after the casside that they put his voice
Speaker 1: note and Diddy is asking her what can he do better.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, I'm a I'm a solutions guy.
Speaker 2: Like I hear you.
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying now. I wasn't aware that
Speaker 1: this is how you felt. I got all this stuff
Speaker 1: going on. I'm a solutions guy. I really need your
Speaker 1: friendship right now. And I don't you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like if we just got to be friends, we got
Speaker 1: to be friends, but really like I don't want it
Speaker 1: to end like this, but what can we do to
Speaker 1: make this relationship better? Because I don't want you feeling
Speaker 1: this way? And then they bring in another conversation where
Speaker 1: Jane Doe was asking for bread like he cause because
Speaker 1: it gets to a point where because he said he
Speaker 1: asking her like, you know, I don't want to fight.
Speaker 2: I want us to move on.
Speaker 1: You know, charge it, charge me, charge me for like,
Speaker 1: let me know what I got to do for us
Speaker 1: to get to a good place to move on.
Speaker 2: And I'm being honest with you, I cause in my mind, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, maybe they're a whole point here for the
Speaker 1: government is this is the manipulation that is used, right,
Speaker 1: This is the this is the uh.
Speaker 2: This is the way that a man who knows he's
Speaker 2: in control, knows this woman is in love with him,
Speaker 2: comes in and tries to keep everything clean because now
Speaker 2: things are about to hit the fan because this Cassie
Speaker 2: lawsuit and then this video just dropped. I mean, this
Speaker 2: Cassie lawsuit drops right, but at face value.
Speaker 1: On the stand, the testimony wasn't strong enough and to
Speaker 1: that point for me to even honestly feel like that
Speaker 1: is how.
Speaker 2: A jury would be thinking.
Speaker 1: I thought like that because again, the whole time I'm
Speaker 1: listening to the cross examination today, I'm like, what was
Speaker 1: the government thinking?
Speaker 2: And I'm like it had to be that point, maybe like.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's feeling in color for certain you know, certain counts,
Speaker 1: but it's not strong enough and it's too iffy, it's
Speaker 1: too open ended, be on the shot of a doubt vibe.
Speaker 2: This is not it.
Speaker 1: Then Diddy's he comes in and they start talking about
Speaker 1: money that she texts him. She texts him and asks
Speaker 1: for It was a whole breakdown. It was like one
Speaker 1: hundred k for this, and there was a whole breakdown
Speaker 1: of money that she asks for for basically Diddy wasting
Speaker 1: her time and she ran down a numbers baby ran
Speaker 1: them down, and Diddy's teammate the point to ask, Okay,
Speaker 1: this was a conversation between you and Diddy. Correct, this
Speaker 1: was not a conversation between you. You Diddy in an attorney. Correct,
Speaker 1: like you had never retained an attorney. And she's like correct.
Speaker 1: Because at this point, now they're trying to they're really
Speaker 1: trying to show how basically.
Speaker 2: This woman is allegedly vindictive.
Speaker 1: Like everything we're seeing, everything we're hearing, is because she
Speaker 1: didn't get what she wanted. Now, while all this is happening,
Speaker 1: it gets to a point where, you know they're having
Speaker 1: these conversations, She's like, look, I just need some time
Speaker 1: to myself. I don't want you to contact me. I
Speaker 1: don't want anything. Like she had reached out to KK,
Speaker 1: who who you know, worked with Diddy and who has
Speaker 1: been mentioning this case, almost did almost every single day
Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't even want him to contact me,
Speaker 1: Like I'm good. So she says for two months December
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, in January twenty twenty four, did he
Speaker 1: left her alone? But he still paid her rent? Fact
Speaker 1: that the rent is still being paid. There's two ways
Speaker 1: you can look at that. It's like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: a way that he is feeling like, as long as
Speaker 1: I'm still paying these things and doing these things I
Speaker 1: know she needs gonna do, I can still control her.
Speaker 2: Or if you're the defense, you're.
Speaker 1: Looking at it like, well, obviously this man wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to control you and make you do certain things because
Speaker 1: here you are actively involved in this investigation and he
Speaker 1: hasn't cut financial ties with you to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: So everything that you're alleging about things not being paid for,
Speaker 1: if you were to stop doing certain things and feeling
Speaker 1: forced because you know, the lifestyle you were upholding because
Speaker 1: of him and him threatening to stop paying your rent.
Speaker 2: It can't be.
Speaker 1: The threats had to be empty at some point because
Speaker 1: you're sitting here on the stand testifying against this man
Speaker 1: and one of us with your rent paid. And again,
Speaker 1: I'm like, those two things the government. It's a great
Speaker 1: argument to have to counter on both sides, right for
Speaker 1: the government and the defense. I just don't feel like
Speaker 1: the government is doing the best job with this witness
Speaker 1: at the point, like like why put her on the scene,
Speaker 1: what's the point of talking about this, what's the point
Speaker 1: of us knowing this?
Speaker 2: And how does it help you? Then they started talking
Speaker 2: about Jane Doug going.
Speaker 1: To Vegas with you know, this big rapper and the
Speaker 1: rapper's wife and or girlfriend. They couldn't specify whether it
Speaker 1: was a girlfriend or a wife, but they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so then you get on this jet, you go to
Speaker 1: Vegas with this rapper and his girlfriend or wife, and
Speaker 1: she's like yes, and they're like, talk to us about
Speaker 1: that trip. So she's like, you know, one of her
Speaker 1: homegirls was friends with the wife girlfriend and she got
Speaker 1: the invite, so she went in this part. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is so not a good look for the government. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's about to get real crazy for the government. Because
Speaker 1: once they brought up another rapper, another big rapper, and
Speaker 1: she's on this jet, I'm like, oh my god, they
Speaker 1: bought the drill the fact that sis is just chasing
Speaker 1: a lifestyle and this is all that this is about.
Speaker 2: Like she's going for a lifestyle.
Speaker 1: When she don't get it, things crumble, right this rapper
Speaker 1: who's close to Diddy music icon.
Speaker 2: So she's like, I got on the jet, we got
Speaker 2: on his jet. We went to Vegas. She says.
Speaker 1: When they went to Vegas, they landed, they instantly went
Speaker 1: to a play, and then they went to dinner, and
Speaker 1: then at the end of the night they.
Speaker 2: Ended up getting invited back to a hotel.
Speaker 1: Right now, in the midst of this, in the midst
Speaker 1: of you know, the play and dinner, she says, she
Speaker 1: runs into one of the escorts that she is very
Speaker 1: familiar with, a man named Anton, who her and Diddy
Speaker 1: have you know, done escapades with several times. At this point,
Speaker 1: she says, she goes up and speak to Anton, and
Speaker 1: nobody quitted. The Diddy's team acts like did anybody wonder,
Speaker 1: like how you knew him or anything like that, and
Speaker 1: She's like, no, everything was cool. She spoke to him,
Speaker 1: moved on. So then she says, they ended up back
Speaker 1: in the hotel room eventually, and when she walked into
Speaker 1: the hotel room, Anton was having sex with the woman
Speaker 1: and everybody there was just watching and so they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so this is happening, and what did you do.
Speaker 2: She's like, she was in the room. Everybody was just
Speaker 2: there watching.
Speaker 1: She says she ended up having some conversations with the rapper,
Speaker 1: and the rapper told her in front of everybody, like
Speaker 1: he was flirting with her in front of everybody, and
Speaker 1: he told her like, you know, I always wanted to
Speaker 1: have sex with you, And she says, though she alleges
Speaker 1: that nothing happened between her and the rapper, now the
Speaker 1: defense reminded her because they're like, so nothing else happened
Speaker 1: in the room, nothing else happening with the rapper, And
Speaker 1: she's like no. So then Diddy's team is like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: do you remember when you met with the government and
Speaker 1: you told the government that you flashed your boobs while
Speaker 1: in the room with this rapper, like while in this
Speaker 1: hotel room party extravagance or whatever it is was. And
Speaker 1: she's like, oh yeah, I forgot that. And then they're
Speaker 1: like okay, and she's like, you know, she's like explaining
Speaker 1: doing that, and you know, they're trying to basically get
Speaker 1: to the point wherehere it's like, okay, were you being
Speaker 1: told you had to do that or and she's like, no,
Speaker 1: you just were like hanging out and it was like
Speaker 1: and like she makes the team like it was just
Speaker 1: like a fun thing, like we're in the room, we're
Speaker 1: hanging out, we're having a good time, and I flashed
Speaker 1: my boots. And then the government and the government and
Speaker 1: then Diddy's team says, do you remember that you also
Speaker 1: in a meeting where you talked about this prior to
Speaker 1: getting on the stand, said that you have referred another
Speaker 1: escort that you and Diddy were familiar with to the party,
Speaker 1: to the rapper and his friends and the party.
Speaker 2: And she's like, yes, she said that she referred. They
Speaker 2: asked her that she did specifically, they said she said,
Speaker 2: They asked her, did you know anyone else?
Speaker 1: Do you know anybody else in a lifestyle, because they
Speaker 1: were looking for another escort, and she said, yes, I
Speaker 1: know a person. She says she then called, and you know,
Speaker 1: she connected that escort with the rapper and all the
Speaker 1: people in the room. And when she said that, I'm like, boy,
Speaker 1: oh boy, did she just blow up the whole reason
Speaker 1: the government just brought her here. Government is alleging that
Speaker 1: this was not just a lifestyle for Diddy that this
Speaker 1: was it may be a lifestyle, but he took this
Speaker 1: lifestyle and used it to coerce and force and blackmail
Speaker 1: people and do all these things because he couldn't get
Speaker 1: what he wanted or he wanted to continue getting what
Speaker 1: he wanted out of these women who he was making
Speaker 1: be a part of these things. This witness now, and
Speaker 1: this isn't like the first thirty to forty five minutes
Speaker 1: not even forty five minutes of her sitting down on
Speaker 1: this cross examination has already fluidly like this is.
Speaker 2: They're not even some of it.
Speaker 1: They're not even asking her questions that bring out all
Speaker 1: these details. They're just literally letting her go, oh, they're
Speaker 1: just asking her to explain what happened or tell us
Speaker 1: what happened. And she's bringing these details, right, She's very
Speaker 1: honest about these things.
Speaker 2: And she's saying, I was asked.
Speaker 1: You know who else I knew in the lifestyle of
Speaker 1: I ended up in this room, and you know, Antine
Speaker 1: was there and he was just having sex with this person,
Speaker 1: and there's another rapper in the room, So basically this
Speaker 1: is another rapper's free call.
Speaker 2: She did say she didn't have sex there, but she
Speaker 2: was there, she stayed, She wasn't forced to be there.
Speaker 1: She like all these things, and I'm like, so everything
Speaker 1: that the government just built up right between her and Diddy,
Speaker 1: like her not wanting.
Speaker 2: To be involved in free calls whatsoever, right, her.
Speaker 1: Not even wanted to be around them, her being disgusted
Speaker 1: by it, her you know, feeling so dirty and so unclean,
Speaker 1: and all these things because of these free golls. She
Speaker 1: went to Vegas and ended up in a room where
Speaker 1: one was taking place, and she voluntarily stayed in the
Speaker 1: room and also ended up flashing her boobs and just
Speaker 1: having a good time room. I'm like, man, the government
Speaker 1: is like I was so confused, y'all, Like the whole testimony,
Speaker 1: I'm so confused. And they started talking about one year
Speaker 1: for her birthday, Like this is after you know, the
Speaker 1: Cassie Laws who dropped, and Diddy is in the midst
Speaker 1: of like a media like storm, and she flies to
Speaker 1: Miami to see Diddy it's her birthday.
Speaker 2: And she says that it was because at.
Speaker 1: This point now from when her testimony was after Diddy,
Speaker 1: after the Cassie Laws who dropped, things between her and
Speaker 1: did he just they started to change, Like he started
Speaker 1: to listen to her more, it seems like he was
Speaker 1: a lot more romantic to her, he you know, the
Speaker 1: hotel nights or freakrofs were still happening, but his approach
Speaker 1: about things were a lot different, and she felt a
Speaker 1: little bit more empowered and cared for. So she says,
Speaker 1: she flies to Miami. Did he sets up a whole
Speaker 1: romantic dinner at his home. It's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: walk down the walkway of the home and there's like,
Speaker 1: you know, a romantic dinner set up.
Speaker 2: And she says it was sweet.
Speaker 1: And she says that their hearts were pounding out of
Speaker 1: their chest, and she said it felt like prom like
Speaker 1: they were both nervous, and you know, like she is
Speaker 1: very much still in love with Ditty. As you're listening
Speaker 1: to her talk and she's describing how mazing this night was,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, they're eating, they're drinking, they're
Speaker 1: having a good time. She's like, because they had such
Speaker 1: a good night for her birthday in Miami, they bring
Speaker 1: up the fact that they had a freak off that night.
Speaker 1: She says on the stand, she admits understand that she
Speaker 1: was down to do the freak off because she had
Speaker 1: gotten what she wanted. She had finally gotten the attention
Speaker 1: and the romantic, you know, side of Diddy that she wanted.
Speaker 1: And when she said that again to the government, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is happening here?
Speaker 2: I am very confused.
Speaker 1: The minute that she allowed for the defense team to say, well,
Speaker 1: you got what you wanted, so you did the freak
Speaker 1: off and she said yes, I finally got what I
Speaker 1: wanted from him. I'm like, that's the vindictive. You're only
Speaker 1: here because you didn't fully get what you wanted. Slam
Speaker 1: dunk right there. They didn't reiterate. They go into let's
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, because now it's like romantic and
Speaker 1: y'all learn doing your birthday and you're down for the
Speaker 1: freak offs and you're doing them and all these things. Right,
Speaker 1: So they're like, let's talk about how things change between
Speaker 1: you guys, right, and they list off things. They said,
Speaker 1: you said you told us in a prior meeting that
Speaker 1: after the Cassie lawsuit. Did he listened more to you?
Speaker 1: She says yes, he was more apologetic. She says, yes,
Speaker 1: he was more sweet. She says yes, he was home more.
Speaker 1: She says yes, so they got to spend more quality
Speaker 1: time together. She says yes, he called and talked on
Speaker 1: the phone and FaceTime with her more. She says yes,
Speaker 1: So then you know, and they paint the picture of
Speaker 1: like what that timeline was from like February to September
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. She says that, you know, there
Speaker 1: was less people around, it was less chaotic, and the
Speaker 1: defense made the point that, like, you know, they asked her, like,
Speaker 1: were you guys still engaging in doing drugs together at
Speaker 1: this point and she says yes, And she says, well,
Speaker 1: were there are a lot of escorts still around and
Speaker 1: she says no. Again, the defense is debunking at this
Speaker 1: point that the drugs come in because you're forced to
Speaker 1: do them, because you're then forced to then be out
Speaker 1: of your mind to have sex with these escorts allegedly,
Speaker 1: or you're only doing these drugs allegedly to numb your
Speaker 1: mind because you're being forced allegedly to have sex with
Speaker 1: these escorts. Because now you're telling us you're in this
Speaker 1: softer space, y'all, are there are no escorts? Really, everything's good.
Speaker 1: Y'all are spending time, You're getting what you're wanted, getting
Speaker 1: what you wanted, and you guys are still doing drugs
Speaker 1: and she's like, yes, right, So they even bring out
Speaker 1: to the point where they're like even his term and
Speaker 1: about their relationship changed. So prior to the Castie lawsuit,
Speaker 1: Diddy was telling this woman, Okay, I'm not the person
Speaker 1: like monogamy isn't my thing right now, I'm polyamorous. That
Speaker 1: that means I'm dating a bunch of people, like I'm
Speaker 1: being honest about that. And she thought she candled it,
Speaker 1: you know, she said she thought she candled it, but
Speaker 1: she eventually couldn't.
Speaker 2: But at this point, now she's in love with him.
Speaker 1: But she said, understand that after the Casti lawsuit changed,
Speaker 1: he would call her things like his girlfriend, and she
Speaker 1: also felt in his actions too. Now here's another point
Speaker 1: where I was like, okay, that could be an alley
Speaker 1: for the government because again the government could bring in
Speaker 1: like the manipulation and you know, all these things that
Speaker 1: he then was able to get her to do, you know,
Speaker 1: and get her to say okay too, whether it's being
Speaker 1: trafficked allegedly or whatever, because of the manipulation. It's just
Speaker 1: something she always wanted from him, and now he's giving
Speaker 1: it to her. Right.
Speaker 2: So then after this, but so I'm like I'm I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm in again.
Speaker 1: I'm going back and forth from playing ping pong the
Speaker 1: full time because I'm trying to figure out why the
Speaker 1: government got this girl on the sand. So then they
Speaker 1: go into just kind of what that time period was
Speaker 1: like for Diddy and Jane Doe. So Jane Doe says,
Speaker 1: you know, during this time period after that Cassie lawsuit,
Speaker 1: when things got a bit better for them, she was
Speaker 1: really trying to be there for him, you know, she
Speaker 1: they realized that there was a federal investigation into him.
Speaker 1: He was so stressed, so she was really on him about,
Speaker 1: you know, making sure he was eating.
Speaker 2: Good and working out and you.
Speaker 1: Know, doing everything that he could to keep himself together
Speaker 1: because he was a wreck.
Speaker 2: Like he was such a wreck at that time.
Speaker 1: And she even said that, you know, she felt more
Speaker 1: assertive in their relationship at this point and that she
Speaker 1: had more control in their relationship.
Speaker 2: And then the Cassie video.
Speaker 1: Got I told you guys, this is the podcast where
Speaker 1: we get into those conversations to shake the room. And
Speaker 1: if I'm being very honest, the government didn't need Jane Doe.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say that one final time before we
Speaker 1: get on out of here. But I want to hear
Speaker 1: from you, guys. I want to know what you think,
Speaker 1: am my tripping. Is the testimony still credible and believable
Speaker 1: or is this just a waste of our time? And
Speaker 1: you know, a parade of sexual acts that should we
Speaker 1: even be focused on them at this point? Because that's
Speaker 1: what Jane Doe was making me feel like, It's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: are we just in this man's bedroom or are we
Speaker 1: actually witnessing an enterprise in a shakedown of sorts like
Speaker 1: the government is claiming.
Speaker 2: Let me know what y'all think. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, I am Laurena Rosa.
Speaker 1: This is the Light Us with Laurna Rosa, and you
Speaker 1: guys could be anywhere with anybody talking about these topics
Speaker 1: because there's always a lot going on. What you choose
Speaker 1: to be right here with me, So I appreciate you, guys,
Speaker 1: Low Riders. I'll catch you in my next episode.