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Speaker 1: Ron An Indian. Hey, this is great. This is technology.

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Speaker 1: Look at this. It's it's going to tell us if

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Speaker 1: we're driving poorly. But do we need it? This is

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Speaker 2: It may well possess a rudimentary and tell usence.

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Speaker 3: The car Doctor if I replace it anyway, but you know,

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Speaker 3: just to waste some money.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes wasting that money makes you feel good though, because

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Speaker 4: at least you know you try.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Inian, the

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car

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Speaker 2: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 2: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 4: But I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 4: Hey, welcome ronin Indie and the Car Doctor here eight

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Speaker 4: got going on fender to fender and door to door.

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Speaker 1: As I always say, I'm here.

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Speaker 4: the week, it's Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. I often wonder,

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Speaker 4: let me think, how can I start this opening conversation

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Speaker 4: that I've got with you here this hour. You know,

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Speaker 4: one of the things I've noticed that the shop of

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Speaker 4: late is little things grow larger.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Two weeks ago, two days ago, the kids we were

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Speaker 4: it just became monumental out of nowhere. Twenty ten, Lincoln

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Speaker 4: passenger side rear view mirror. Older Drivery kind of had

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Speaker 4: for him, it was the second time he's done it

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Speaker 1: It's like doing an oil change.

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Speaker 4: He changes oil and his right side outside passenger rear

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Speaker 4: view mirror for him. But this time was a little different.

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Speaker 4: This time, that fairly simple, straightforward mirror repair became four

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Speaker 4: I spoke to him about it, yeah, I kind of

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Speaker 4: remember when I knocked the mirror off.

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Speaker 4: the right front tire. Here's how the job got bigger.

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Speaker 4: This is an all wheel drive vehicle. It's got thirty

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Speaker 4: The problem is that he's got tires that are better

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Speaker 1: Do you do four? Do you do two? Well? The

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could probably cheat and get away and maybe

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Speaker 4: Always do four in a situation like that, it just

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Speaker 1: Is the numbers of order repair. We don't talk about

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Speaker 4: Worth a whole lot more less than we actually think

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Speaker 4: With some questions regarding Oh, I don't know what's around

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Speaker 4: the No. Seven Mustangs, so let's see what's going on here, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor. Sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks checking my call.

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Speaker 3: Actually it's not about my Mustang. Actually, it's more of

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Speaker 3: a maintenance question in general. Okay, I'm one of those

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Speaker 5: Stuff.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: We probably shared some turf somewhere together and are assorted youth.

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Speaker 3: We definitely share a lot of interest on that and

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Speaker 3: I've been the you know, the family car maintenance repair guy,

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Speaker 3: And I'm as far as maintenance. In fact, you're leading

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Speaker 3: And okay, that's my car maintenance. But what's your thoughts

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Speaker 3: I didn't, and was there a problem? Now it's you know,

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Speaker 3: lot of things like that and this one. What are

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what what you're now what you're asking

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Speaker 4: me is you know what what's what's the real maintenance

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Speaker 4: normal filters, And it's that it's a great question. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: do the air filter, to do the cabin filter.

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Speaker 4: asking about cabin filters. They had a sixty five thousand

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Speaker 1: And the conversation.

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Speaker 4: You know, went through the whole thing about why and how,

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Speaker 4: But they just looked at me like I was trying

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Speaker 4: And I appreciate the question. I'll tell you what, Dave,

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Speaker 4: and when we come back, let's have a real quick

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Speaker 1: I love this question. I'm ronning any and the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 6: You find that ever, effy, let me slip it with

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Speaker 6: welcome back in the car Doctor.

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Speaker 4: Here we've got Dave on the line. Some comments and

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Speaker 4: questions about regular automotive maintenance. Dave, are you still there?

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Speaker 1: I'm still you know, above and beyond the.

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Speaker 4: Normal plugs and filters and fluids that manufacturers call for.

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Speaker 4: What you're really asking for is, yeah, you know, would

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Speaker 4: I change an O two centsor at seventy five thousand miles?

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Speaker 4: I also look at years, all right, Dave, I look

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Speaker 4: at the age of the vehicle. One of the things

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Speaker 4: I've always questioned about two censors that I've never gotten

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Speaker 4: two sensors always had a lifespan of three to five years.

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Speaker 1: And the rationale, the argument.

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Speaker 4: I got, was because that they were always active and

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Speaker 4: regardless whether the machine was on or not, because oxygen

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Speaker 1: And that was the best explanation anybody ever gave me.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get down into the nitty gritty beyond that.

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Speaker 4: I took that and I applied it to automobiles and

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Speaker 4: I said, well, gee, and O two sensors and O

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Speaker 4: why isn't that applicable to an automobile as well? Never

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Speaker 4: got an answer to that one. A matter of fact,

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Speaker 4: what's wrong with this guy?

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Speaker 1: Why is he over complicating this? Which I'm not. I

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Speaker 1: think you know, an O two centers and O two censor.

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Speaker 4: If the vehicle is five years old at seventy five

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Speaker 4: the vehicle's eight to ten years old with an O

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Speaker 4: probably start thinking about doing it, because otherwise you're going

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's sort of my logic behind it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's the big money, big money, you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: you know the downstream two centers. I don't really care

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Speaker 3: because if everything is taken care of upstream, they're going

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Speaker 3: the cats are functioning. And yeah, I mean I'm glad

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Speaker 3: to hear you say that, because that's sort of been

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Speaker 3: to get older. Maybe because it's it isn't my no way.

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Speaker 3: I understand that they're constantly reading for the computer, switching

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Speaker 1: They're always working by the same token.

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Speaker 4: A bottle of fuel, system cleaner in the tank, cleaning

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Speaker 4: mass airflow sensors, staying on top of the battery, not

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Speaker 4: just keeping the battery terminals clean, but keeping the battery clean,

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Speaker 4: keeping those covered with dielectric reas siliconing windows and window

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Speaker 4: drag the rubber. All those things will help promote the

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Speaker 4: life of the vehicle. And it's all those little touches that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know what it's like. The day Susie turned around

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Speaker 1: So we had to buy he renew car. Was she

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Speaker 4: Because I could keep the car going forever, and I

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Speaker 4: think we've kind of talked about that here on air.

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Speaker 4: It so it's just part of the process. I hope

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Speaker 4: that I hope that answers it for you. I've got

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Speaker 4: to move on to the next caller. By all means,

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Speaker 4: stay in touch and if you got anything else I

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Speaker 1: Ron at cardoctorshow dot com.

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Speaker 4: Let's go over and talk to Maureen from New York

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Speaker 4: with some questions about a two thousand and three Pontiac

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Speaker 4: Granddam Maureen, you're on with the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: How can I help?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Hi, Ron, thank you very much for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you. I bought this car used about two

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Speaker 5: minus things, you know, just just minu things like the brake,

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Speaker 5: He mainly does autobody work, so I thought I would

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Speaker 5: bring that up to you. He does also do repair.

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Speaker 5: And because there was a leak under the car, and

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Speaker 5: I was happy to hear that. When I brought it

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Speaker 5: was low on coolant. Now, I don't know. I've had

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Speaker 6: I need.

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Speaker 1: I need a question. Mari in the clock's going to

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Speaker 5: The question is, uh, what does just because it's low

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Speaker 6: It's I mean no, not at all.

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Speaker 1: What it what it?

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Speaker 4: What it means is that somebody hasn't been checking and

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Speaker 4: staying on top of the coolant level. So here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: All right, here's what you want to know. Here's the takeaway.

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Speaker 4: You want to have a mad coolant. Put a mark

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Speaker 4: it's it's midway typically between the high end low mark

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Speaker 4: the coolant somewhere in that range? If you find over

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Speaker 4: Then yes, obviously it's going somewhere. But on an older

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Speaker 4: then perhaps there's additional service, additional repair needed here. So

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Speaker 4: step one, bring the bottle up the level, make sure

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Speaker 4: it's where it's supposed to be, using the correct coolant.

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Speaker 4: In this case it's going to be GM dex cool

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Speaker 4: and all probability it'll be an orange colored coolant. Bring

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Speaker 4: and in two weeks maybe he can even show you

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Speaker 4: then we've got to start to look for a cooling

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Speaker 1: But number one read the level correctly.

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Speaker 4: In number two, help keep from further contaminating the cooling

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Speaker 1: Dirty on the inside. That is part and parcel part

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Speaker 4: Hey, coming up next Matt Eaton from Denso we're gonna

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Speaker 4: twin tip. Say that's seven times fast a riadi in

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Speaker 4: twin tip, spark plugs. I'm running any of the guard

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Speaker 4: Doctor Beck right after this.

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