WEBVTT - Domesday Book

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly

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<v Speaker 1>Frye and I'm Tracy D Wilson. So back when we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about old and ancient roads, one of the pieces

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<v Speaker 1>that I read about the Ridgeway mentioned the Doomsday Book

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<v Speaker 1>as a reference for the age of the historical site there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, have we ever talked in detail about

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<v Speaker 1>the Doomsday Book on the show? Like I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>had come up before, but I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that we've ever actually discussed the whole thing and

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<v Speaker 1>why it existed. And then I kept finding myself just

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<v Speaker 1>looking things up about it as a curiosity, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, that's gonna have to happen. So here

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<v Speaker 1>we are to contextualize all of this and really explain

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<v Speaker 1>the scope of this thing. The BBC wrote of the

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<v Speaker 1>Doomsday Book project quote, it was an exercise unparalleled in

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<v Speaker 1>contemporary Europe and was not matched in its comprehensive coverage

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<v Speaker 1>of the cunt until the population censuses of the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Although Doomsday itself is not a full population census and

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<v Speaker 1>the names that appear in it are mainly only those

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<v Speaker 1>of people who owned the land. So it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>old project, big old data gathering project. Yeah. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Doomsday Book, which looks like it should be pronounced Domesday

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<v Speaker 1>but is not. If you're like, what's the Doomsday Book,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a survey like a census and a property record,

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<v Speaker 1>much less ominous than the doomsday that its name might suggest.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't called the Doomsday Book by its originator. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have a name at that point. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just called the Description of England, with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>documents prepared as part of its assembly each having their

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<v Speaker 1>own names, and the whole project was initiated by William

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<v Speaker 1>the First, also known as William the Conqueror and even

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<v Speaker 1>less flatteringly, William the Bastard. We're going to give you

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<v Speaker 1>the broad strokes on his rise to power because it

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<v Speaker 1>makes clear exactly why he wanted this survey completed. William

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<v Speaker 1>was born in Falaise, Normandy, most likely in ten twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>His father was Robert, the first Duke of Normandy, and

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<v Speaker 1>his mother was a woman named Erleva, she sometimes noted

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<v Speaker 1>as being called Arlette, and she was the king's concubine.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus his less than flattering nickname. William was Robert's only son,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just seven when his father became ill

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<v Speaker 1>and died while traveling home from a trip to Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 1>and at that point William, who Robert had named as

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<v Speaker 1>an heir, became William the Second of Normandy. William's life

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<v Speaker 1>after he inherited the title of Duke of Normandy was

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<v Speaker 1>marked by constant challenges, intrigues, and loss. His own family

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty apathetic about a situation because they were all

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<v Speaker 1>jockeying for power, and they knew if he died or

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<v Speaker 1>was murdered, they would stay to benefit from that. Because

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<v Speaker 1>he was just a child, a lot of people assumed

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<v Speaker 1>that they could really do whatever they wanted without any

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<v Speaker 1>real repercussions from authorities, and really they weren't wrong. Without

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<v Speaker 1>a strong leader, some people felt comfortable just laying claim

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<v Speaker 1>to their own power. They would build new castles with

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<v Speaker 1>which to defend their claims, and this led to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of violent conflict. Yeah, theoretically, you were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>get permission to build a new castle that was not happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and then to make matters worse, the adults who were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be supporting William and were were often attacked.

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<v Speaker 1>His personal tutor was murdered, as were three of his guardians,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the years, various historians have theorized that all

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<v Speaker 1>of this instability in his early years really catalyzed William's

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<v Speaker 1>later hardline positions regarding law and order. After being knighted

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<v Speaker 1>at the age of fifteen, William went hard trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prosecute and punish people who had overstepped and taken in

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the chaos of his early years as duke,

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<v Speaker 1>and that led to more conflict. Most of the people

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to reclaim land from had held it

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<v Speaker 1>for years at that point, so they felt it was

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<v Speaker 1>very much theirs, and they had no intention of paying

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<v Speaker 1>any back taxes levied on it. Numerous rebellions were mounted

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<v Speaker 1>because of all of this, and while there was mixed

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<v Speaker 1>success for William in terms of these conflicts, he did

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<v Speaker 1>learn a lot about battle and he developed his style

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<v Speaker 1>as a commander, which was direct and pragmatic. Also during

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<v Speaker 1>this time, William got a good bit of help from

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<v Speaker 1>King Henry the First of France, who took the throne

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<v Speaker 1>in ten thirty one. After things settled down for William

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<v Speaker 1>in Normandy, he supported Henry's efforts elsewhere, especially when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to expanding France's territory in the south. In ten

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three, William married Matilda of Flanders after negotiating for

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<v Speaker 1>her hand as part of an alliance with her father,

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<v Speaker 1>Baldwin the f fifth. This was actually a problematic marital

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<v Speaker 1>alliance in the eyes of the church. Pope Leo the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth had stated that because the two were third cousins

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<v Speaker 1>once removed, the marriage was incestuous and should not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But they got married anyway, and it seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>been a pretty good match. They had nine children that

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<v Speaker 1>lived to adulthood, and Matilda ruled Normandy when William was away.

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<v Speaker 1>Regarding their choice to ignore the pope, that was pretty serious.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also a little surprising because William was known

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<v Speaker 1>to be very religious. But six or seven years into

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<v Speaker 1>the marriage he reconciled with the church, and he made

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<v Speaker 1>amends by agreeing to build two monasteries at cont one

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<v Speaker 1>in his name and one in Matilda's. This penance enabled

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<v Speaker 1>the papacy to officially sanction their marriage, and that bolstered

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<v Speaker 1>William's position during another period of upheaval in Normandy. William

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<v Speaker 1>made a deal with Edward the Confessor, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>King of England and also William's cousin. Edward had no heir,

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<v Speaker 1>and William thought that he could be Edwards named Air

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<v Speaker 1>and this was likely something that was possible because he

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<v Speaker 1>had allied with Flanders through marriage, and as this agreement

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have happened even before the marriage took place,

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<v Speaker 1>but after William had made his deal with Baldwin the Fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was in a good position to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I could handle this kind of power. That deal became

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<v Speaker 1>important because William had fallen out of favor with King Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, Henry and Jeffrey Martel also known as

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey the second Count of Anjous, had reconciled after their

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<v Speaker 1>own falling out, and they had joined forces to launch

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<v Speaker 1>an attack on William's Normandy, which happened as multiple rebellion

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<v Speaker 1>efforts were all happening within Normandy. William managed to regain

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<v Speaker 1>control of Normandy, and then, regarding his conflict with the

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<v Speaker 1>Crown and the Count of Anjous, he got lucky. King

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<v Speaker 1>Henry died on August fourth, ten sixty and his eight

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<v Speaker 1>years year old son, Philip the First took the throne,

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<v Speaker 1>with widowed Queen Anne of Kievs serving as regent. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a few months later, on November fourteenth, Jeffrey Martel also

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<v Speaker 1>died and his title went to his nephews. So William's

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<v Speaker 1>two strongest limiters to his success in expanding Norman lands

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<v Speaker 1>were no longer on the board, and their successors were

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<v Speaker 1>neither as strong nor as driven to stop him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so now we have to go back to Edward the Confessor,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are reaching a point where there are two

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<v Speaker 1>different narratives of what happened next. According to the Norman version,

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<v Speaker 1>Edward sent Harold, Earl of Wessex from England to Normandy

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm the agreement that Edward would name William as

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<v Speaker 1>his heir. Harold was shipwrecked and he was captured by

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<v Speaker 1>one of William's vessels, Gui, the first of Ponthieu. William

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<v Speaker 1>intervened to free Harold, and Harold told William that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Edward was ready to confirm their bequest agreement. This involved

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<v Speaker 1>the swearing of an oath on Harold's part. Again, that's

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<v Speaker 1>according to Norman sources. Some of those sources include the

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<v Speaker 1>bio tapestry, which features an image of Norman's swearing fealty

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<v Speaker 1>to William. The alternate version suggests that Harold's mission was

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<v Speaker 1>not about confirming that agreement, because Edward named Harold as

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<v Speaker 1>his heir while he was on his deathbed, so either

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<v Speaker 1>he sent Harold for a different reason or he changed

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<v Speaker 1>his mind. But when Edward died on January fifth, ten

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six, the throne went to Harold after the nobility

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed him. Unsurprisingly, this was not something that delighted William,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also brought conflict from other places, because William

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the only person that thought he should inherit from Edward.

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<v Speaker 1>Before William could even get his affairs in order to

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<v Speaker 1>bolster his standing and get ready to attack England, Harold's

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<v Speaker 1>brother Tostig and Harold the second Hardrod of Norway invaded

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<v Speaker 1>England to wrest power from Harold. They were unsuccessful, but

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<v Speaker 1>left Harold weakened and low on troops. William was able

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of this, and was of course victorious

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<v Speaker 1>at the Battle of Hastings, during which King Harold was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a particularly grizzly and famous account of that death

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<v Speaker 1>where he gets shot right in the eye, which sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 1>But William became William the First of England on December

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, ten sixty six. Yeah, we have old episodes

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<v Speaker 1>about the Battle of Hastings and about the Tapestry all

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out there in the archive. With William finally on

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<v Speaker 1>the throne of England's we can finally start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Doomsday Book, and we will get into it after

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<v Speaker 1>we first pause for a sponsor break. Been to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years after William became King of England, his leadership was

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<v Speaker 1>as tumultuous as it had been as Duke of Normandy

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<v Speaker 1>in France. He went home to Normandy in ten sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had to return to England almost immediately to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with a series of rebellions, and he became rather

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<v Speaker 1>ruthless in putting such rebellions down over the next several years.

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<v Speaker 1>William is known for introducing a lot of Norman governing

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<v Speaker 1>structures to England. Some of these were literal structures, including

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<v Speaker 1>the Tower of London and other castles, that were intended

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<v Speaker 1>to give Norman lords central strongholds from which they could

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<v Speaker 1>control the surrounding lands. Those Norman lords had replaced members

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<v Speaker 1>of England's aristocracy as part of William's restructuring, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had instituted a landholding policy that required promises of military

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<v Speaker 1>service to the lords that oversaw them. William traveled between

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<v Speaker 1>Normandy and England throughout his reign, sometimes returning to his

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<v Speaker 1>original home for years before something like a rebellion would

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<v Speaker 1>bring him back to England to assert his authority. And

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<v Speaker 1>as he faced both within and without his kingdom, that

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<v Speaker 1>system of landholding that he established became more and more

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<v Speaker 1>important to him. William the First wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that he understood completely who owned what and thus who

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<v Speaker 1>owed him military service as well as money, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he decided at the end of ten eighty five that

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<v Speaker 1>he needed a survey assessing who was on what land

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<v Speaker 1>and details of any estates. This survey would ultimately yield

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<v Speaker 1>what became known as Doomsday Book. Doomsday Book is sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>described as the way William the First assessed his new kingdom,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was almost twenty years before he initiated the project,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously that is not accurate. The Anglo Saxon Chronicle,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a history that was started in the late

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<v Speaker 1>ninth century and was updated in fits and starts until

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<v Speaker 1>eleven fourteen. That mentions the moment that William made his

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<v Speaker 1>decision to have the survey done, describing it this way quote.

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<v Speaker 1>After this had the King a large meeting and very

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<v Speaker 1>deep consultation with his council about this land, how it

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<v Speaker 1>was occupied, and by what sort of men. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>sent his men all over England into each shire, commissioning

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<v Speaker 1>them to find out how many hundreds of hides were

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<v Speaker 1>in the shire, what land the King himself had, and

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<v Speaker 1>what stock upon the land, or what dews he ought

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<v Speaker 1>to have by the year from the shire. Also he

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<v Speaker 1>commissioned them to record in writing how much land his

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<v Speaker 1>archbishops had, and his diocesan bishops, and his abbots, and

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<v Speaker 1>his earls, And though I may be prolix and tedious,

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<v Speaker 1>what or how much each man had who was an

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<v Speaker 1>occupier of land in England, either in land or in stock,

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<v Speaker 1>and how much money it were worth. So very narrowly, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>did he commission them to trace it out that there

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<v Speaker 1>was not one single hide, nor a yard of land

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<v Speaker 1>name or over. It is shameful to tell, though he

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<v Speaker 1>thought it no shame to do it, Not even an

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<v Speaker 1>ox or nora, a cow, nor a swine was there

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<v Speaker 1>left that was not set down in his writ and

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<v Speaker 1>all the recorded particulars were afterwards brought to him. Incidentally,

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<v Speaker 1>hides here is not referencing animal hides. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>measurement of land. So Doomsday Book was actually two books,

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<v Speaker 1>and it still exists, but not quite in that form,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to talk about that later. The first

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<v Speaker 1>volume is called Great Doomsday and the second is called

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<v Speaker 1>Little Doomsday. There are also additional supporting pieces of writing,

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<v Speaker 1>many of which were summarized in Great Doomsday. Great Doomsday

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<v Speaker 1>is written in an abbreviated form of Latin on parchment

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<v Speaker 1>that's made of sheepskin. Most of the ink in it

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<v Speaker 1>is black, although red ink was used for page headers, corrections,

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<v Speaker 1>and addendums. This total's four hundred and thirteen pages. Great

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<v Speaker 1>Doomsday includes most of the records collected about all of

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<v Speaker 1>the county surveyed, with the exception of Norfolk, Essex, and Suffolk.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are included in Little Doomsday, but not as summaries.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like these should have been incorporated into the

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<v Speaker 1>larger first volume at some point, but for reasons unknown

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<v Speaker 1>that did not happen. This whole thing also did not

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<v Speaker 1>include the northern areas of England. London, Winchester and Bristol

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<v Speaker 1>are also excluded, as are Northumberland and Durham. There may

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<v Speaker 1>have been, and probably were, plans to get to all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but those areas and some other small towns

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<v Speaker 1>and villages that we know existed but weren't included, either

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<v Speaker 1>never got their data collected or we do not have

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<v Speaker 1>the records. Little Doomsday is actually a more detailed work

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<v Speaker 1>than Great Doomsday, and though its cover size is smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>it has more pages at four hundred and seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears that the larger book made use of records

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<v Speaker 1>similar to those than Little Doomsday and condensed and abbreviated them.

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<v Speaker 1>In Great Doomsday appears to have been written by a

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<v Speaker 1>single person, it appears that a second scribe checked the

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<v Speaker 1>work and made some notes. In contrast, Little Doomsday appears

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<v Speaker 1>to have had several different people recording information in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those supporting documents that we mentioned earlier offer their own

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<v Speaker 1>unique insights into this whole project. For example, the document

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<v Speaker 1>known as Inquisition of the County of Cambridge, which has

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<v Speaker 1>a much longer Latin name that I thought I should

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<v Speaker 1>not attempt, includes information on process and procedure for capturing

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<v Speaker 1>all of this data. And it's from this document that

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<v Speaker 1>we know that the whole thing was carried out as

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<v Speaker 1>a series of sworn inquests. So it's believed that major

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<v Speaker 1>landowners initially sent in information who their tenants were, what

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<v Speaker 1>manners were part of their land, et cetera, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that information was compared to existing records. Then came the

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<v Speaker 1>part where William sent his men all over England, as

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<v Speaker 1>described in the quote that Tracy read earlier, to hold

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<v Speaker 1>these inquests and get confirmation and additional details about land holdings.

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<v Speaker 1>The commissioners conducted the proceedings at assigned circuits, each of

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<v Speaker 1>which was divided into counties and then subdivided into Feif's hundreds, vills, manners,

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<v Speaker 1>and sub manners, with some circuits subdividing even further. There

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<v Speaker 1>were seven circuits in total, with three to four commissioners

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<v Speaker 1>assigned to each, and the juries that were assembled for

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<v Speaker 1>these inquests were made up of Norman and Anglo Saxon

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<v Speaker 1>members to avoid bias, and then witnesses were called to

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<v Speaker 1>verify the information that the landowners, which were literal landlords,

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<v Speaker 1>had provided. The questions asked at the inquests also appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in the supplemental documents. There are eighteen of them. What

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<v Speaker 1>the manner was called? Who held it at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of King Edward? Who holds it now? How many hides

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<v Speaker 1>there are? How many plows held by the lord, and

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<v Speaker 1>how many belonging to the peasants? How many villains those

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<v Speaker 1>were wealthy sort of in quotation marks indentured peasants. They

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<v Speaker 1>would not have been wealthy at all. It was relatively

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<v Speaker 1>more prosperous. How many cotters those are indentured peasants, who

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<v Speaker 1>owned land totaling less than five acres? How many slaves?

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<v Speaker 1>How many freemen? How many soakmen? Those were freemen who

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<v Speaker 1>owed dues to their lord? How much woodland? How much meadow?

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<v Speaker 1>How much pasture? How many mills, how many fisheries? How

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<v Speaker 1>much had been added or taken away from the estate?

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<v Speaker 1>What it used to be worth altogether? And what it

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<v Speaker 1>is worth now? These questions were posed in triplicate. One

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<v Speaker 1>set of answers was given for the time of Edward

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<v Speaker 1>the Confessor before ten sixty six. One set was to

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<v Speaker 1>capture the situation in the aftermath of William the first

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<v Speaker 1>redistribution of property that was right after he took the throne,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the third set was to reflect the situation

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<v Speaker 1>at the time the survey was perfer formed, and the

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<v Speaker 1>answers to all of these questions were then compiled and

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<v Speaker 1>used to create first one set of documents and then

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<v Speaker 1>the summaries that appear in the Great Doomsday. Landowners' names

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<v Speaker 1>and they were generally all Normans with a few exceptions

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<v Speaker 1>were recorded and some of their Anglo Saxon under tenants.

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<v Speaker 1>Once all of these inquests were complete, the commissioners then

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<v Speaker 1>assembled together so that all of their collected data could

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<v Speaker 1>be amassed. So what does all that data show. More

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<v Speaker 1>than thirteen thousand places are mentioned in the Doomsday Book,

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are still around today, although in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases the names have changed. Sprinkled throughout all those places

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<v Speaker 1>are thirty thousand recorded manners. The total value of all

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<v Speaker 1>the properties listed in the book is estimated at seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand pounds calculated by size. Thirty five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the land was deemed arable, twenty five percent was pasture

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<v Speaker 1>or meadow land, with meadow being the dominant, the two

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent was woodland, and the remaining twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 1>was listed as other. This clearly shows too, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that William consolidated wealth and power among his followers. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand Anglo Saxons had owned the majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>surveyed land in the time of Edward the Confessor, by

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<v Speaker 1>ten eighty six, just two hundred people did, all of

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<v Speaker 1>them Normans. Seventeen percent of all of the land in

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<v Speaker 1>England was owned by the king and his family, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the church, bishops and abbots owned twenty six percent,

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<v Speaker 1>Tenants in chief owned fifty four percent, and those two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Anglo Saxons had largely become under tenants to those

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred Norman landholders. And it showed that ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the population lived outside of cities, and that three

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<v Speaker 1>quarters of them were serfs, and it estimated that about

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen thousand troops could be called up from the existing population.

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<v Speaker 1>What you can't get from Doomsday Book is a reliable

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<v Speaker 1>population count, because, as we mentioned in the intro and

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<v Speaker 1>then again just a little while ago, it listed only

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<v Speaker 1>the names of landholders, so they would say who was

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<v Speaker 1>under them, but not by names, so you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>reconcile that with accuracy, and Doomsday is the work that's

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<v Speaker 1>still being researched and reinterpreted. In twenty twenty one, a

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<v Speaker 1>paper in English Historical Review shared new insights into the work.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this and unearthed that year, but we

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect anybody to remember that. The study that resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in the paper was a collaboration between University of Oxford

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<v Speaker 1>and King's College London, led by doctor Stephen Baxter, Professor

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<v Speaker 1>of Medieval History at Oxford. Their work looked specifically at

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<v Speaker 1>one of the supporting documents, the Exon Doomsday. Its Latin

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<v Speaker 1>name is Liber Exoniensis, and Exon Doomsday is the oldest

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<v Speaker 1>of the manuscripts associated with the project. This particular part

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<v Speaker 1>of the work is not with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>two main sections. It's at the Exeter Cathedral Library, cataloged

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<v Speaker 1>as MS thirty five hundred. Yeah. I should point out too,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't include it in this outline that this also

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<v Speaker 1>was published as a book by Baxter's team. But Baxter's

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<v Speaker 1>team carefully analyzed Exon Doomsday to determine which of the

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<v Speaker 1>numerous scribes two dozen who worked on it wrote which sections,

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<v Speaker 1>and then tracked what documents each of them had worked

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<v Speaker 1>from to do so, and it showed a really impressive

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<v Speaker 1>level of organization and efficiency. Doctor Baxter was quoted in

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<v Speaker 1>the press as saying of doomsday quote. This research shows

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<v Speaker 1>the compilation of Doomsday to be one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable feats of government in the recorded history of Britain.

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<v Speaker 1>The survey was brilliantly conceived to generate and structure information

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<v Speaker 1>that would enable the conqueror's regime to maximize his revenue

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<v Speaker 1>from different income streams. The conqueror's regime effectively compiled and

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<v Speaker 1>manipulated a dapt base of England's landed wealth in less

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<v Speaker 1>than nine months, using technologies no more complex than parchment,

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<v Speaker 1>pen and ink and human interaction. Perhaps most mind blowing

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<v Speaker 1>is the research team's determination that the first draft of

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<v Speaker 1>this whole project was done in the course of just

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred days, starting on Christmas Day ten eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>when William first ordered the survey, and ending on Easter

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<v Speaker 1>ten eighty six, which was April fifth. The work notes

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<v Speaker 1>that taxes were collected at the same time the first

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<v Speaker 1>pass of the survey was done, and that the inquest portion,

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<v Speaker 1>which was more of a fact check, took place in

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<v Speaker 1>the following fifty days, being completed on May twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>From that point to August. First, the information was all

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<v Speaker 1>parsed and reorganized into statistical summaries that would lead to

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<v Speaker 1>the production of the Great Doomsday. It's important to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that while this effort was unprecedented in its scope,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't as though William the Conqueror conjured the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the land survey like this out of thin air.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite a few of the counties that were surveyed for

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<v Speaker 1>the Norman King had been surveyed before. Some of that

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<v Speaker 1>documentation was used to model the structure of Doomsday Book,

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<v Speaker 1>and Doomsday Book didn't supplant all those other records either.

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<v Speaker 1>Historian Sally Harvey, who studied the Doomsday Book throughout her career,

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<v Speaker 1>rote in nineteen seventy four, quote, we may emphasize the

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<v Speaker 1>background documentation and treasury practice that enabled the Doomsday survey

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<v Speaker 1>to be taken so quickly. Nevertheless, the enterprise was prodigious

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<v Speaker 1>and indicates that existing documentation was deemed inadequate. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>are also some surveys similar to this that had already

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<v Speaker 1>happened in other parts of Europe. So again, not a

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<v Speaker 1>completely new concept coming up. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how all of this information was used, but first, we

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<v Speaker 1>will hear from the sponsors that keep stuff you missed

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<v Speaker 1>in history class going. So you may be wondering what

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<v Speaker 1>did William the First do with all of this information

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<v Speaker 1>that he had commanded to be collected, Well, he actually

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<v Speaker 1>died before he could do a whole lot with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't quite completed when he died in September of

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<v Speaker 1>ten eighty seven. As we noted, some of the major

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<v Speaker 1>cities were not entered in the book, and information in

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<v Speaker 1>Little Doomsday and the additional documents was likely intended to

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<v Speaker 1>be incorporated into one main volume, but that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have fallen to the wayside with William's death. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was still used to make decisions about governance and to

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<v Speaker 1>settle disputes long after William the First was gone, as

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of how important the project was. It wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>almost one hundred years after the record was compiled that

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<v Speaker 1>it got its ominous sounding name the eleven seventy nine

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Dialogue of the Exchequers, where it got the name Doomsday,

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<v Speaker 1>as that writing includes the note quote just as the

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<v Speaker 1>sentence of that strict and terrible last judgment cannot be

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<v Speaker 1>evaded by any art or subterfuge. So when a dispute

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<v Speaker 1>arises in this realm concerning facts which are written down,

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<v Speaker 1>and an appeal is made to the book itself, the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence it gives cannot be set at naught or evaded

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<v Speaker 1>with impunity. The name stuck. Even the Public Record Office,

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<v Speaker 1>which was tasked with caring for the book, started to

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<v Speaker 1>call it Doomsday, and it's been known that way since

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<v Speaker 1>the twelfth century. Incidentally, the Public Record Office is now

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<v Speaker 1>the National Archives. According to John MacDonald and gd Snooks,

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<v Speaker 1>writing in the Journal of the Royal Statistical Society in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty five, quote, during the first few centuries after

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<v Speaker 1>ten eighty six, dB was in constant use in the Exchequer,

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<v Speaker 1>where it held pride of place amongst Treasury documents, and

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<v Speaker 1>was even seriously consulted as late as fifteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>by Elizabeth I. As we look at this project and

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<v Speaker 1>its extraordinary collection of information, it's easy to see why

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<v Speaker 1>it has fascinated historians and researchers and has been a

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<v Speaker 1>topic of debate for centuries. Once again quoting Sally Harvey, quote,

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:20.959
<v Speaker 1>Doomsday Book's own monumentality is one of its greatest hazards,

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<v Speaker 1>though it bulks largest as a source of information for

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<v Speaker 1>eleventh century England. It is by no means the sole

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<v Speaker 1>survivor of late Anglo Saxon and of Anglo Norman administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the near contemporary texts have suffered because all

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<v Speaker 1>have been turned into Doomsday satellites, even texts which are

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<v Speaker 1>known to contain figures and arrangements which are not those

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<v Speaker 1>of Doomsday Book. On the other hand, the effort to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the magnetism of Doomsday has caused a few historians

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<v Speaker 1>of administration to evade its ambit. Altogether, the Doomsday Survey

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<v Speaker 1>had motives and objectives, its findings were acted upon instantly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it remained a reference work for years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>We gain insight into the administration which produced the survey

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<v Speaker 1>and understand how Doomsday's existence affected the character of subsequent

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<v Speaker 1>administrative policy, particularly in the following reign. Harvey notes in

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<v Speaker 1>that writing, which was part of the published transactions of

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<v Speaker 1>the Royal Historical Society, that in some cases the scholarly

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<v Speaker 1>approach to the book kind of distances researchers from its

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<v Speaker 1>very necessity, because it's easy to lose sight of its

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<v Speaker 1>functional need and purpose. But some of the problem lies

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<v Speaker 1>in the fact that different researchers have perceived the function

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<v Speaker 1>and purpose of the work differently. While some have focused

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<v Speaker 1>on it as a financial tool for William the First,

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<v Speaker 1>others have suggested that its primary purpose was more about

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<v Speaker 1>the legal establishment of a new feudalism. Obviously, both of

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>these things can be true at once, but as historians

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<v Speaker 1>over the centuries have sought to analyze this work and

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<v Speaker 1>its true purpose, sometimes one or the other and even

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>other motivations have gotten lost. We don't actually know the

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<v Speaker 1>exact reason or reasons that William called for this extensive survey,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems most likely there were multiple factors, like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, we don't have any document where he says

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<v Speaker 1>to determine the nature of my lands, like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything like that. It absolutely may have been about

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<v Speaker 1>just taxes or establishing Norman style feudalism, but William may

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<v Speaker 1>have also been influenced by the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 1>facing a likely invasion by Denmark and Norway at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wanted to know everything he could about the

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<v Speaker 1>country for potential military strategizing, in part to see how

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<v Speaker 1>many of those people could be called up, but also

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<v Speaker 1>just what the country had and looked like if someone invaded,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course additional tax revenue that could be collected

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<v Speaker 1>would also help war efforts. There was also a growing

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<v Speaker 1>issue that was just bickering. The various people under William

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<v Speaker 1>who had been given land had started to argue about

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<v Speaker 1>whether that distribution had been handled fairly. It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>vibes like petulant kids to me. But I have the

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<v Speaker 1>distance of history, so it's easy to say that. But

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<v Speaker 1>with documentation of specifics about all of these lands, such

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<v Speaker 1>arguments could easily be put to rest. Doomsday is an

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<v Speaker 1>important document for all the reasons mentioned in the Sally

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<v Speaker 1>Harvey quote we read earlier, but also because it serves

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<v Speaker 1>as the beginning of written history for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>towns and villages. It's become a foundational reference for historians,

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<v Speaker 1>though its interpretation has shifted and been questioned over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty six, to mark the nine hundredth anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>of William the First Survey, there was a project mounted

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<v Speaker 1>by the BBC to create a new version of the

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<v Speaker 1>Doomsday Book called Doomsday Reloaded, and this was intended to

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<v Speaker 1>create a new digital snapshot of the UK for future generations.

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<v Speaker 1>More than a million people participated in this project, submitting

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<v Speaker 1>their own digital document mentory accounts of ordinary life. Per

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<v Speaker 1>the BBC website that documented the project, Quote, schools and

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<v Speaker 1>community groups surveyed over one hundred eight thousand square kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>of the UK and submitted more than one hundred forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, eight hundred nineteen pages of text articles and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three thousand, two hundred twenty five amateur photos cataloging

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<v Speaker 1>what it was like to live, work and play in

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<v Speaker 1>their community. The major fault in this project was the

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>storage media used for all that information, because remember this

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<v Speaker 1>was the eighties, this used layser discs. They could only

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<v Speaker 1>be read by some computers. That particular style of disc

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<v Speaker 1>technology really got left behind as the digital age advanced.

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<v Speaker 1>There were efforts to access and share the community disc Archive,

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<v Speaker 1>which included updates over the years, but in June of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, the project was finally closed for good. The

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 1>website created for it is now part of the National Archive,

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>UK government web archive. Today, the physical volumes of Doomsday

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Book are kept in the National Archives. And remember how

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<v Speaker 1>earlier we said there were two volumes, Now there are

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<v Speaker 1>technically five because the book was rebound in nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>That was part of a long term preservation plan because

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<v Speaker 1>people still want to look at it, they are not

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<v Speaker 1>readily accessible to most people in their physical form. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of held back for very specific requests of like

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<v Speaker 1>scholarship and legal needs. However, there is a complete digitized

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>version online that anyone can access. It is completely free.

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<v Speaker 1>That is thanks to the work of public interest technologist

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Powell Smith, who with permission, used digitized Doomsday data

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<v Speaker 1>compiled by jj N Palmer of the University of Hull

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<v Speaker 1>and his team. They compiled that data in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>nineties and she used it to make an interactive website

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<v Speaker 1>called opendoomsday. It is at opendoomsday dot org. Again, does

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<v Speaker 1>is spelled domes and you can click around a map

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<v Speaker 1>to see what data was collected there in William's survey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty cool project and massive and according to

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<v Speaker 1>the BBC, Doomsday is still valid as evidence to title

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<v Speaker 1>of land. It remained the most detailed account of England

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<v Speaker 1>and its landholdings for more than seven hundred years until

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<v Speaker 1>a national census was taken in eighteen oh one, and

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<v Speaker 1>people still love it and spend their entire careers researching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I kind of love. I have a very, very,

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<v Speaker 1>I think hilarious email. This is from our listener Kristen

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<v Speaker 1>and it is about divorce ranches. And she writes, Dear

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<v Speaker 1>Holly and Tracy, I've been meaning to write you about

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<v Speaker 1>your episode on divorce ranches in Nevada, as my family

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<v Speaker 1>has had a personal experience with a divorce ranch. One

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<v Speaker 1>summer in the mid nineteen sixties, my parents packed the

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<v Speaker 1>four of us kids into the station wagon and drove

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<v Speaker 1>from our home in northern California just across the state

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<v Speaker 1>line into Nevada to a dude ranch in Verding, Nevada

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<v Speaker 1>that's about ten miles west of Reno. My parents took

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<v Speaker 1>us there based on reports that the ranch was family friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>There's horse riding, swimming pool, playground games, lots of kids

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<v Speaker 1>to play with, et cetera. And when we arrived, the

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>place appeared to live up to their expectations. However, after

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<v Speaker 1>a time we did begin to notice a strange demographic

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<v Speaker 1>to the ranch. My father was the only man there

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>who wasn't part of the staff. People kept asking us,

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<v Speaker 1>is your mom staying here? Yes, where's your dad also

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<v Speaker 1>staying here? She then has in quotes question marks and

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<v Speaker 1>exclamation plays. Despite that, we did have a good time there.

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<v Speaker 1>I still remember horseback riding and meals served family style

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<v Speaker 1>on long tables and benches. The attached picture shows me,

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<v Speaker 1>my three brothers, and my mom absorbing the atmisphere at

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<v Speaker 1>the ranch. My dad was behind the camp for pet

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<v Speaker 1>tax I'm attaching a picture of our late great kitty,

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Potter cat. We adopted Harry Potter, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>homeless street kitten living on the island of Elba. He

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>was named by my daughter, who, at third grade, had

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<v Speaker 1>just discovered the magic of the Harry Potter books. Harry

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>was a very well traveled cat. He lived with us

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<v Speaker 1>in Milan, Washington, d c. And Beijing before retiring with

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<v Speaker 1>us to North Carolina. Harry was very loving and was

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<v Speaker 1>always available to help me with my costuming projects, as

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<v Speaker 1>shown here assisting with my ursula Seawitch bell a poc

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<v Speaker 1>cosplay construction. He was a wonderful kitty and we miss

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<v Speaker 1>him every day. I just want to thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>all you do to bring history to life and into

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>my home. I have an ma in history, but still

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>learn something new from you in nearly every podcast. My daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher has also become an addict after I introduced

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>her to you. I get a real kick out of

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.919
<v Speaker 1>your delivery style and feel like you guys are two

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<v Speaker 1>of my besties that I haven't yet had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to meet. Keep up the amazing work, Kristin. This is

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<v Speaker 1>so sweet and I love it and I'm scary following

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<v Speaker 1>you on Instagram, Kristen, I just love the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody going to a divorce ranch for a family vacation

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 1>and kind of befuddling everyone. Where's your dad right there?

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<v Speaker 1>I do love it, but also I love that you

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time. That pictures gold. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>keep it forever and ever and ever. Is so wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>and Harry sounds like a wonderful cat. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>giving him a home and giving him a life that

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<v Speaker 1>many people would envy. It sounds like. If you would

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