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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always grinding our face off.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal and beyond lucky today to be joined

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Speaker 1: by Nick Shook, who's gonna do some news with me.

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Speaker 1: Also excited Will Brinson will be joining me a little

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Speaker 1: bit later to talk about players. We're all in on

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four. I'm all in on Nick Shook

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Speaker 1: this year. It's a big year for Nick Shook.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, every year, in this time of year,

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Speaker 2: we set expectations high, and we want to live up

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Speaker 2: to those expectations. It's not quite a chip tracker, it's

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Speaker 2: not best shape in my life, but the potential making

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Speaker 2: the leap happening right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, before your eyes.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Nick is rested, hopefully had a little time off little

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Speaker 1: boy's trip, which which is nice. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: only time off he said all season. And yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep you busy today and all season long, Shook,

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Speaker 1: You're going to be doing the news a lot with me.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be doing a lot of that the

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Speaker 1: primetime games with me. And yeah, let's get right into

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Speaker 1: the news, all right. We start in Pittsburgh, where Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson was back on the field today. Shooky did some

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Speaker 1: individual drills, but it was still justin fields with the

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Speaker 1: first team, and Fields has had a nice little run

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Speaker 1: here to start training camp with the first team. Other

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Speaker 1: news there, Unfortunately, Roman Wilson, their rookie wide receiver, left

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Speaker 1: practice with an ankle injury. We haven't gotten severity of

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Speaker 1: that yet. Mike Tomlin didn't sound incredibly enthused about it,

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Speaker 1: so we'll have to wait and see. But for a

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Speaker 1: third round rookie pick, he expected to be a bigger

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Speaker 1: part of the Steelers' plans than most rookies would be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big bummer for me personally because he

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Speaker 2: was one of my favorite picks in this entire draft,

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Speaker 2: and especially how he would fit in that Steelers receiving corps.

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Speaker 2: I thought he's a great compliment to George Pickens. He

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Speaker 2: was a sneaky good receiver at Michigan for those who

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Speaker 3: So it's a bombery.

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Speaker 2: Hear he exits on a cart, you know, early in camp,

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Speaker 2: But then again we don't quite know yet. So until

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Speaker 2: we know, we can hold out hope that hey, look

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Speaker 2: you got a month, let's say you can come back

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Speaker 2: in a month, you're gonna miss some of those rookie reps.

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Speaker 2: But hopefully there's enough of a run way there where

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Speaker 2: he could come back. Just just keep my fingers crossed

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Speaker 2: that the worst doesn't happen. But when it comes to

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Speaker 2: Fields and Wilson, you know, if we were sitting back

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Speaker 2: a month ago, which we were, and saying when is

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Speaker 2: Justin Field's going to end the conversation because Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: is the starter as of right now. Well he just

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Speaker 2: got quite a jump on that process by getting all

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Speaker 2: these opportunities with Russell Wilson out And even today, Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: according to those who were there, wasn't quite moving a lot.

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Speaker 2: It was more about passes than moving around. So they're

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Speaker 2: treating that really gingerly, which is going to keep the

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Speaker 2: door cracked open for Justin Fields could affect this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always tricky to know which minor injuries to

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Speaker 1: talk about it this time of year because you just

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Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna last.

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Speaker 1: Choose these two because Wilson, who's been quite durable, is

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Speaker 1: getting up there in years in a soft tissoo injury

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Speaker 1: like this two start year year. It's not just that

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Speaker 1: he's missing reps. He's a veteran, although it's a new system,

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Speaker 1: sure he's not feeling that comfortable about that, which is

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Speaker 1: When you see these types of injuries with veterans, they

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Speaker 1: with rookies, they just missed that time that they can

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Speaker 1: can just hear the twenty twenty five puff piece. That's

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Speaker 1: like Roman Wilson I never quite got back up to

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Speaker 1: I think for the quarterbacks in Pittsburgh this offense where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a pivotal season because you have

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Speaker 2: I often wonder, you know the puff piece that you

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Speaker 2: end of the season, which is, oh, man, I really

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Speaker 2: hit the rookie wall around week twelve. Does a month

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Speaker 2: you hitting the rookie wall? Is this the second half resurgence?

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Speaker 2: Is this a making the leap candidate going into twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five? Anything's possible, Okay. I mean it worked for

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Speaker 2: Odell Beckham his rookie season. I think that works more

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Speaker 2: for the next guy we'll talk about. Arden Key was

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Speaker 2: a veteran who suspended six games for PDS. Now, there

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Speaker 2: they're never the same, and you wonder what's the cause

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Speaker 2: that six weeks off, you're like, Hey, I'm refreshed, I'm rejuvening,

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Speaker 1: So Arden Key, I should have mentioned, is on the

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Speaker 1: Titans now and had a nice season a year ago.

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Speaker 1: You know, has been previously with the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: You don't need to comment on that, but it's something

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Speaker 1: but it still could happen. The NFL is extremely unpredictable

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Speaker 1: Reese that teammates of Matthew Judon did not see him

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Speaker 1: My guess is no, because Girod Mayo goes over and

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Speaker 2: And that's their first reaction as wow, this is very

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Speaker 2: because he arrived by saying, look, I'm here even though

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Speaker 2: I'm not happy with my contract because I signed on

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Speaker 2: by you know, the full contact practice, he's sitting out.

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Speaker 2: But most of these instances, guys stay off the side,

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Speaker 2: He's sitting on a flipped over trash can right next

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Speaker 2: to his teammates doing their drills, just chilling, making a

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Speaker 2: that's going to irritate Drod Mayo. So the fact that

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Speaker 3: So the fact that we got to this next point

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's squeezed, he's turning the screws a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He's only do six point five million, and he's one

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Speaker 1: you know, was okay with Devon Godshaw also had a

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Speaker 1: be more of a player's coach and really rely on

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Speaker 1: just be interesting to see how he handles this. I

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Speaker 1: the Bears, Matt Eberflus, is handling the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: Ale's too busy grinding my absolute face off in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tyson Baje, Okay, I thought you were gonna

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Speaker 4: They're like, you're not getting anything out of this, there's no.

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Speaker 1: Just mentioned quickly. John Kaminsky of the Yons, who's a

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Speaker 4: Shook. This isn't breaking news or anything.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I think it only helps the team.

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Speaker 2: Cool highlights of Mike Rabel sprinting in races against Jameis

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't like that. It's embarrassing. Not that Rabel isn't

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Speaker 1: This is where being a good dude and having relationships

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Speaker 1: They're secure in where they're at and I love that move.

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Speaker 2: And my reaction is, Gee, what a surprise. Couldn't see

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Speaker 1: To surprise to Steve Weis, who was trying to honk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not excited about this because that offense was

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Speaker 1: Right, it falls off a cliff. He's supposedly been having

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Speaker 4: What is happening here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What We spent all this time complaining about them drafting

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 2: We believe in Kirk. We watched quarterback. He's our guy

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked by that staft, but I love it and

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Speaker 1: I love the hype. Finally, kicker battles have been decided.

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Speaker 1: A rookie cam Little is the kicker in Jacksonville over

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Speaker 4: I'm excited, you did it. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I would not have been able to name him twenty.

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Speaker 4: Four hours ago. But it's over now.

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Speaker 1: College football guy, and yeah, nice like having a couple

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Speaker 1: on the other side with Will Brinson.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about players we are.

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Speaker 7: All in on and oh yeah, Randy, ooh ooh like

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily And then I've been excited about

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Speaker 4: We were texting over the.

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Speaker 1: Weekend about RAFAA on the doll and Carlos Alcarez and realized, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I need to get Will Brentson on this show. One

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Speaker 1: of my oldest colleagues, friends in the business. He was,

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Speaker 4: It's Will Brinton of CBS. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: What's up? Greg? We've been man, We've been doing this

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Speaker 6: for a long time now, haven't. We're closing them.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's like a decade half the business keeps changing.

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Speaker 1: There's like corporate mergers, but you're still kicking CBS senior

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Speaker 1: dudes if anyone has followed Will's career, funny and knows

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Speaker 1: without it.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean you you, I think I want to say.

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Speaker 8: We talked about this right before No, right before COVID No,

437
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Speaker 8: you were like, all right, I'm out on the beard.

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Speaker 8: Every NFL writer has a beard, and then COVID happened. Yeah,

439
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Speaker 8: and everybody, you know, everybody grew facial hair.

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Speaker 6: I think that. I mean, I like mine, I.

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Speaker 8: Would, you know, I probably I've got some other physical

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Speaker 8: stuff I'm going to work on before I work on

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Speaker 8: shaving the beard. Keep tear it around, you know, mask

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Speaker 8: and mask uh in mask mass various attributes on my face.

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Speaker 1: That is one of the great things men have. Women

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Speaker 1: just just don't. The beard can just cover up whatever

447
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Speaker 1: you want. I love that you not only you know

448
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Speaker 1: texting me about tennis and we love connecting about that,

449
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Speaker 1: but you you suggested this idea for a show, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, we got it. We gotta get

451
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Speaker 1: this done even before Will gets back from his vacation

452
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Speaker 1: in Dallas. And so you phrased it as just guys

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Speaker 1: were all in on for twenty twenty four, and you

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Speaker 1: set the parameters no rookies, and I don't know if

455
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Speaker 1: you said any other parameters that I didn't listen to.

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Speaker 1: H but guys we are We're pushing our chips in

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Speaker 1: the table. There are guys for twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll track this through the season and see which

459
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Speaker 1: group of our guys are better. But since you came

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Speaker 1: up with the idea, Will, I'll let you start off.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So I think too, Like I was sort of

462
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Speaker 8: thinking about this, and I don't think that you should

463
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Speaker 8: necessarily have to, you know, go way off the board

464
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Speaker 8: for guys you're all in on right now.

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Speaker 1: It can be superstars. I have one on my list,

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Speaker 1: a super duper star.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do too, And you know I'll

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Speaker 8: start let's start with the super duper stars. So I

469
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Speaker 8: think you need to start at the top. You start

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Speaker 8: with the big names. You sort of work your way down. Honestly,

471
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Speaker 8: like the impetus for this sort of came from, you know,

472
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Speaker 8: whether it's DraftKings or whether it's you know, our palaced

473
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Speaker 8: underdog like Josh Norris and Hayden Winks do great work

474
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Speaker 8: over there, but doing best ball drafts and sort of

475
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Speaker 8: saying like taking a stand on players and who I

476
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Speaker 8: really want to be in on and one guy, I'm

477
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Speaker 8: really really in on that, and this is its like

478
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Speaker 8: a nobleep Sherlock move. But I do think he's undervalued,

479
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Speaker 8: especially if you look at maybe like the MVP markets.

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Speaker 8: Okay as well Josh Allen, Oh my god, is this

481
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Speaker 8: a super different star?

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Speaker 6: Is that too?

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Speaker 4: That is?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I guess it takes you know,

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Speaker 1: two of us, you know, twenty years in the business

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Speaker 1: to figure out that Josh Allen is good. But yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: I wrote it's the same. But you go on, I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad.

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Speaker 8: No, No, I mean, I think like I have, you're

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Speaker 8: look at like my exposures in these drafts. I think

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Speaker 8: he's my maybe my highest exposure quarterback, and I think

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Speaker 8: there's a little bit of twenty twenty three Patrick mahall

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Speaker 8: or twenty twenty two. Patrick Mahons, excuse me, where you

494
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Speaker 8: know Stefan Diggs is traded in the off season, he

495
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Speaker 8: goes to Houston. Everybody's wondering, can Josh Allen be the

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Speaker 8: guy without a true number one receiver. I think people

497
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Speaker 8: are out of the bills. People want to be out

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Speaker 8: of the Bills. They've been wanting to be out on

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Speaker 8: the bill since last offseason with all the digs drama

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Speaker 8: that was circulating in July. And now you have the

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Speaker 8: situation where Josh Allen is is like the fourth or

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Speaker 8: fifth guy in terms of odds for MVP. I saw

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Speaker 8: nine to one in various spots. He's behind C. J. Stroud,

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Speaker 8: Greg That's insane.

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Speaker 1: I see a list where he's even lower than that,

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Speaker 1: to me, which is absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I didn't know. I don't know what the official

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Speaker 6: spots like.

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Speaker 4: What You're good.

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Speaker 1: This is why we got to have Will on more

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Speaker 1: more often, because, as you know, I'm an employee of

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Speaker 1: the NFL and I have to sign a piece of

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Speaker 1: paper every year that says I can't gamble. That said,

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Speaker 1: I'm on a show every week that picks games, and

515
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Speaker 1: we pick scores and game debut and so we can

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Speaker 1: talk about it and you're you're more of an expert,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's insane to me that he is behind

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Speaker 1: guys like Stroud, Lamar, Herbern.

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Speaker 4: Purty.

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Speaker 1: I see in one and all your points are great,

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Speaker 1: and I think there is something about the public going

522
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Speaker 1: so in on the bills last year and they were burned,

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Speaker 1: and so you don't want to do it. But it's

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Speaker 1: so funny that you wrote him down and you mentioned

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Speaker 1: twenty two Mahomes because that is it to me, because

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Speaker 1: sometimes MVPs are about narrative, and the narrative is gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, oh, it's it's Josh Allen without Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna take a step back, just like everyone

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Speaker 1: expected Mahomes to do in twenty twenty two without Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 1: And yet I look at this group and I like

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Speaker 1: this wide receiver group. I like the combination. I like

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Speaker 1: that he's not forcing it, and more than anything, I

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Speaker 1: just like the point of Josh Allen's career that he's at.

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Speaker 1: He reminds me a little of Ben Roethlisberger when Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was a little bit older Will, and I think

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Speaker 1: it was where Ben Roethlisberger finally married up for a

537
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Speaker 1: couple of years, his physicality and his strength was still there.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't old, but he was just smarter, Like he

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Speaker 1: was a better quarterback because he was smarter. And it

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Speaker 1: took him a while. Took it takes a lot of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks a while to get to that point. And I

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Speaker 1: think Josh Allen is at that point now. It's a

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Speaker 1: sweet spot for like one or two years where his

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Speaker 1: physicality is still all the way there and his mental

545
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Speaker 1: side has caught up, and he just feels like a

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Speaker 1: guy that one of these years is gonna win an MVP.

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Speaker 4: And this feels like that year to me.

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Speaker 8: Well, it is the narrative thing is exactly right. You

549
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Speaker 8: lose gigs people like you know you and I know

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Speaker 8: and we'll get I mean to assume you have this

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Speaker 8: tight end on your list to Dalton Kincaide.

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Speaker 2: I.

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Speaker 4: Just stayed off him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I text you, I think Kinkaid is gonna

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Speaker 8: have a monster year.

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Speaker 6: And you talk about the twenty twenty two chiefs. What

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Speaker 6: do they do?

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Speaker 8: They said, Mahome, you lose Tyreek, But you know what,

559
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Speaker 8: it's okay because you have Travis Kelcey. Well, guess who's

560
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Speaker 8: gonna be Josh Allens, Travis Kelcey, it's Dalton Kinkaid.

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Speaker 6: You also have Curtis.

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Speaker 8: Samuel who had his and I realized that like people,

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Speaker 8: you know, like hyping up Curtis Samuel whatever. He the

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Speaker 8: best year of his career in twenty twenty with the

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Speaker 8: with the Panthers when Joe Brady, the Bill's offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 8: was Carolina's offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Speak to me, didn't think of that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, mccollins is getting buzzed, and look I like Mac.

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Speaker 6: I don't think mac collins is all right changing wide

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Speaker 6: receiver one. No, but he's a deep He's a deep threat.

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Speaker 6: Like he's a cheap deep threat.

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Speaker 8: He's like when the when the Chiefs God to get

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Speaker 8: MBS right and bring him in NBS on this team

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 6: Chase Claypool getting hype.

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Speaker 1: In So okay, you've got you've got too far, You've

577
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Speaker 1: gone too far. This is like, you know, we learned

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Speaker 1: this model Congress. Like you, you want to stick to

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Speaker 1: your strongest points in your argument. You got to know

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Speaker 1: when to stop. And when you get to mc collins

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Speaker 1: and Claypool, that's.

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Speaker 4: Where you got to stop.

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Speaker 1: But Shakir Samuel, Kean Coleman, Kincaid, Knox Cook. That's six

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Speaker 1: good pass catchers. You can't it again. It reminds me

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Speaker 1: of Kansas City in twenty twenty two, except they have

586
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Speaker 1: better pass catchers, but more that they have continuity on

587
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. That Sean McDermott's been saying it all

588
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Speaker 1: off season. This is the best offensive line that the

589
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Speaker 1: Bills have ever had in their tenure, and they have

590
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Speaker 1: great continuities. So I'm totally with you, and I know

591
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Speaker 1: you love Kincaid, so that that's one two where I

592
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Speaker 1: think he'll be the number one receiver in the league.

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Speaker 1: And it's a great point on Joe Brady and Samuel.

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Speaker 1: I'm just into it this year. I guess I've given

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Speaker 1: away my MVP pick of the year. I'm gonna go

596
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Speaker 1: less of a star here, but still a star. Let's

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Speaker 1: go big names first. I'll go Drake London. Okay, I'll

598
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Speaker 1: start with that. Yeah, okay, I actually forgot Drake London

599
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Speaker 1: didn't even break a thousand yards last year. I just

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Speaker 1: think of him as a top ten to twelve receiver

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Speaker 1: in the league. And I know if you're in fantasy

602
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Speaker 1: you did not feel that last year when he ended

603
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Speaker 1: up with a nine hundred and two and he is

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Speaker 1: the ultimate tape over numbers guys. I wasn't even that

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Speaker 1: high on him going into the draft. I think I

606
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Speaker 1: had him fourth or fifth in that class. I think

607
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be proven wrong. When you watch him, there's

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Speaker 1: just so many times that he is just absolutely bodying

609
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Speaker 1: cornerbacks and he can run slants, he can run digs,

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Speaker 1: and people say he doesn't get open, like maybe deep

611
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Speaker 1: down the field he doesn't get open. Our friend Matt

612
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Speaker 1: Harmon talks about that, but he gets open in the

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Speaker 1: short areas. And where is Kirk Cousins good over the

614
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Speaker 1: middle of the field. That's where he wins in the

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Speaker 1: intermedia area. And you think about his offensive coordinator, Zach

616
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Speaker 1: Robinson is there and they're gonna use Puka. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're gonna use Drake London like Puka and he can

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Speaker 1: make enough plays after the catch it. I know this

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Speaker 1: isn't a perfect stat Will, but yards per route run,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's a stat I have some issues with,

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Speaker 1: but it's just an efficiency stat. When you look at

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Speaker 1: the yards. Drake London has two of the top ten

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Speaker 1: marks since twenty thirteen in that stat. In the last

624
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Speaker 1: ten years he is in the Both of his seasons

625
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Speaker 1: are in the top ten. And you look at the

626
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Speaker 1: other people on the list, it's like Odell Beckham's best year,

627
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Speaker 1: Devanta adams Is best year, and Drake Lonnon's two years

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So he's been extremely efficient and he

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Speaker 1: just passes the eye test contested catches that offense, and

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Speaker 1: there's no second receiver. I know Kyle Pitts is like

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Speaker 1: a second receiver, but he's the only real wide receiver

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Speaker 1: there I could.

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Speaker 4: He seems to be.

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Speaker 1: Underdrafted, underappreciated, whether we're talking fantasy or not. I'm just

635
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Speaker 1: in on him having a total monster season.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 8: I was definitely trying to find the stat. I saw

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Speaker 8: it yesterday on Twitter. I thought it was Hayden Winks.

639
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Speaker 8: Maybe it was Matt Harmon. What you know, one of

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Speaker 8: all these guys, maybe's Ian Harden's.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of guys doing great work in the

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Speaker 8: fantasy space. You're right yard for out run. Not a

644
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Speaker 8: perfect stat, but the one set I saw is that,

645
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Speaker 8: and again I would attribute if I could.

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Speaker 6: But on Drake London was.

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Speaker 8: That he leads the or he's like top ten since

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Speaker 8: like twenty eleven in terms of commanding targets, and it's

649
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Speaker 8: like basically, how many targets can you pull based on

650
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Speaker 8: your routes run and based on your time on the field,

651
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Speaker 8: which is insane because he was in an Arthur Smith

652
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Speaker 8: offense where there are no targets to be had, like

653
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Speaker 8: Johnny Smith got all the targets for the for the

654
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Speaker 8: Falcons last year, and now you have Kirk Cousins and

655
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Speaker 8: Greg I don't know if this don't I don't know

656
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 8: what to do about this Achilles saying. You know, when

657
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 8: we first started this business, we didn't know what to

658
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 8: do with a Now it's like a cl You're just

659
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 8: stronger and better, sort of like Tommy John The Achilles

660
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 8: thing worries me a little bit with the quarterback because

661
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 8: you got to push off. But if Cousins and Rogers

662
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Speaker 8: come back, Cousins, I mean Cousins is such a massive

663
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 8: upgrade for this offense, and.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna like Zach Robinson is a pass first. You know,

665
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: the Rams all pass a ton. So even if Cousins

666
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Speaker 1: and Pennox, if he plays, like even if Cousins isn't

667
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: totally cousins.

668
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Speaker 4: They're got just the volume is going to be through there.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to go from one of the heaviest

670
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Speaker 1: run offenses to the heaviest pass offense.

671
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Speaker 4: I love it well and.

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Speaker 8: It just too I threw out Darneld Mooney too, as like,

673
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 8: you know, somebody who can stretch the field and open

674
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Speaker 8: things up underneath a little bit for for London there

675
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 8: as well, And I just think there's a lot of

676
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Speaker 8: weapons there, but London's going to be the alpha in

677
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Speaker 8: that offense.

678
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Speaker 6: So I'm in on that. I like it.

679
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Speaker 1: Okay, I love you throwing in some two lane love.

680
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: There might be some coming up in a little bit. Uh,

681
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: all right, give me, give me someone else. You're all

682
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: in on your guy?

683
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Speaker 4: All right?

684
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Speaker 8: This is this, I think this is I'm here for it.

685
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Speaker 8: Speaking of speedsters, now nine percentile in terms of the

686
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 8: forty he ran at the combine, an elite athlete, a

687
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 8: guy who was unbelievable with Alabama before tearing his ACL

688
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 8: late in the season. Now getting just the high train

689
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 8: is starting to build as Dan Campbell AKAPC principle types up,

690
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 8: Jamo Jamison Williams emerging as this new extra option on

691
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Speaker 8: the Detroit Lions, a guy who is an absolute like

692
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Speaker 8: lightning bolt down the field, but I think can command

693
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 8: some more like sort of manageable targets closer to the

694
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage. But also it was just a perfect

695
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 8: compliment to amround Saint Brown and San Malporta. The Lions,

696
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 8: I believe, played fourteen of seventeen games indoors or like

697
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 8: over a root this year. This offense is going to

698
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 8: go just be electric and I think a Jamo and

699
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 8: Jamo becomes what they believe he can be. And again,

700
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Speaker 8: Dan Campbell dousing pretty good about he's a hype guy,

701
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 8: but he's pretty honest within this offense. Like Jared Golson

702
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 8: gonna be peace sleeper as well.

703
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: That's going too far for me. Jamison Williams, I'm shocked

704
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: he is getting drafted in like the tenth round of

705
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: fantasy drafts. And this conversation isn't all about fantasy, but

706
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: for the skill guys, it obviously applies. Teams tell you

707
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: how they feel with their actions. That's the most important thing.

708
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Like I was surprised how in on the Ravens, I mean,

709
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: how in on Rashad Bateman. The Ravens were this offseason,

710
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: but then they gave him money and they didn't sign anyone.

711
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that proves it. Same thing with Detroit.

712
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: They didn't need to give James and Williams money. He

713
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: wasn't eligible, but they let Josh Reynolds go. They didn't

714
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: bring anyone in, and you look at the way last

715
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: season ended. They started to trust him his last two

716
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: games of the season, which were the NFC Championship game

717
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: in the Divisional round game, he ran more routes in

718
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: those two games.

719
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Speaker 4: I'm so glad I was.

720
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: I was prepped for a different show to talk about

721
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams and I.

722
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Speaker 4: Never used it. Always use it.

723
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: That's a lesson for any people you know that are

724
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: trying to get into the business, like prep will never hurt.

725
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: Someday you'll use it, or anyone.

726
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 6: Who's in school, like if we study, you're going to

727
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 6: be better at the test.

728
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: It will happen eventually that it will come in handy.

729
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: And so yeah, he ran more routes in those two

730
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: games than any other in the biggest spots ever. And

731
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Speaker 1: you think about their biggest drive of the season when

732
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: they needed to come back against the forty nine ers

733
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Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship.

734
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Speaker 4: He caught a deep comeback. He also had a big

735
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Speaker 4: time drop.

736
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Speaker 1: He also caught an absolutely crazy touchdown that no one

737
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: will ever remember to cover the spread probably or at least,

738
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, make them kick an on side kick. I

739
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: don't remember what the spread was at that game. So

740
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: he was out there being trusted in the biggest moment. So, yeah,

741
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: they're telling me with their actions. And I mentioned that

742
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: draft class, I had him ranked number one, and I

743
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one. Our friend Mitakimes had him ranked

744
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: number one. Just we you know, he was coming off

745
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: in ACL. We've learned he maybe wasn't as mature as

746
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: he needed to be. But I think he's there now

747
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: and they trust him, so I'm totally in. He's a

748
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: post hype sleeper. That's That's another one.

749
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: What did you call it? Dan Campbell by the way,

750
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: the PC principal? What is this?

751
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

752
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 8: South Park they replaced they brought it a new principal

753
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 8: at one point, and he's the PC principal.

754
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 6: He's like, you know, he's like very politically correct, but

755
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 6: he is a spitting image for Dan Campbell.

756
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Dan Campbell politically correct too, and generally I'm

757
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: on board with almost everything he says and does. But

758
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: he did have Hulk Hogan at practice doing like a

759
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: promo the other day, not as PC there. All right,

760
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, let's do it. Let's do a non

761
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: skill player. I'm gonna go Devin Witherspoon. Obviously, this is

762
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: not out on a limb that he was a Rookie

763
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: of the Year finalist. I guess they call it now

764
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: with with NFL Honors, which means he came in the

765
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: top three of votes. But I do think when they're

766
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: doing the cornerback rankings at this time a year ago,

767
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: a year from now, that it very well could be

768
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Speaker 1: Sas Gardner one, Devin Witherspoon two. I'll never forget that

769
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Peak Carroll compared him within weeks of having him on

770
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Speaker 1: the roster to Troy Polamalu, just that this guy has

771
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: instincts and smarts unlike anyone I've ever coached, which Pete

772
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: Carroll saying that is just insane. So I think for

773
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: a player like that, who's obviously physically talented, but he's

774
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: also gonna win, just mentally, that first the second year

775
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: leap is gonna be huge. He even improved so much

776
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: during last season, So he can do man, he can

777
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: do flex a zone, he can really do everything. I know,

778
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: he's not Kyle Hamilton. He's a cornerback. But with Mike McDonald,

779
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: I think he can use him in a bunch of

780
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: different ways. He can travel with with wide receivers like

781
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: he didn't a year ago.

782
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 4: And I just love the Mike McDonald fit.

783
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: I just I think he could be a guy where

784
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: it's like week six and you're like writing one of

785
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: those articles, well, and it's like, is Devin Witherspoon a

786
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year candidate? Like I could just

787
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: absolutely see him having that type of year, and he's

788
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna let you know about it too.

789
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: He's gonna talk about.

790
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: It, which which is great in the in the proud

791
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: tradition out there of Richard Sherman.

792
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 6: Well, you know, we talked about the Lions.

793
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 8: The Lions wanted to draft Devin Witherspoon, and he made

794
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 8: sense as like a like a Dan Campbell guy, Brad

795
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 8: Holmes a cornerback tape watching savant self proclaimed and this

796
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 8: guy like he's he's almost like two physical in the

797
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 8: run game for his own good because he just pops people.

798
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little like can he survive this long term?

799
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: But he should be fine for now?

800
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I but I know he'll be fine.

801
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 8: And I agree with your take on Mike McDonald and

802
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 8: how like a smart player who is versatile. Yeah, it's

803
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 8: not the Kyle Hamilton thing, but like, if you're a

804
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 8: really intelligent football player who can be versatile on the

805
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 8: defensive side of the ball, Mike McDonald is going to

806
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 8: utilize you in as many different ways as possible, and

807
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 8: it's going to help you flourish. I mean, you saw

808
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 8: that across the board with all these Ravens guys, whether

809
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 8: it was the guys on the on the on the

810
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 8: defensive line, you know, whether it's you know, Rokwan Smith

811
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 8: and Patrick Queen developing, or whether it's Kyle Hamilton and

812
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 8: those guys in the secondary. Obviously a lot of great

813
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 8: players on that Ravens defense. But I think I'm excited.

814
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 8: I think Seattle is actually flying under the radar. I've

815
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 8: had dk metcalf on the on the longer list of

816
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 8: guys that I put in there. Oh okay, well, I

817
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 8: mean while we're on Seattle and not to switch back

818
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 8: to the skill position, guys, but like Ryan Grubb out

819
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 8: there is really interesting. Greg, maybe I might be calling

820
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 8: on Ryan Grubb And yeah, I mean, I don't know,

821
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's like like I know, I've

822
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 8: heard people say how much of it is Kailen debor

823
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 8: who who's now at Alabama? Or how much of its

824
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 8: grub And you know, you can wonder, well, they did

825
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 8: have three, you know, wide receivers with Jill and Polk.

826
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 6: You know, you have Jaylem McMillan. Of course in the

827
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 6: Rebdonda you have all these three guys.

828
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 8: But it's like man man that sort of sounds like

829
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 8: DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett and Jackson smithing jigin. To me,

830
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 8: it feels like it feels like, you know, if you

831
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 8: want to be all in on somebody too. I mean,

832
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 8: I wouldn't dare take the quarterback in the Seattle Seahawks

833
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 8: from you, but I feel like he can have a

834
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 8: career year as.

835
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: Well you could. And I'm trying to be careful. This

836
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 4: is a daily show, Will and I'm just trying not

837
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: to do you.

838
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 6: Know what Smith five days a week.

839
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Right, I'm trying to not repeat takes and support. But yeah,

840
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about everything offensively, they're really just about

841
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: that whole team, like their their week one game is

842
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Seattle Denver and that's that's one of the games. I

843
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: think it's a late game that I'm most excited to

844
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: walk just just because they're both just so I have

845
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: no idea what I'm going to get out of the

846
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: quarterback situation with Denver that I'm actually curious. And then

847
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: that Seattle team, I think is just going to be

848
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: so exciting, and.

849
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 6: Can we get a.

850
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 8: Like can I can we get like a camera on

851
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson for that game? I mean, just like it's

852
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 8: supposed to be Russ's like second revenge game against Seattle.

853
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 6: Seattle, Hell, he's not even on the team.

854
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Get this point, you know Tyler Lockett and DK we're

855
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: at his wedding and the guy who fired him, well,

856
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: I guess John Schneider's go there, but Pete Carroll's not there.

857
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: I think he still has a lot of love and

858
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: affection for Seattle in a way that he definitely doesn't

859
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: for Denver.

860
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: All Right, we we got it.

861
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: Just like a couple like let's go quick pick your

862
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: favorites or go fast on a couple of the board

863
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: that you got I got, I got.

864
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 8: Three running backs on you give you four, but but

865
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 8: one of them I think was on your.

866
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: Show, would be all in for all of them.

867
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean that this might be stretching the bounds of it,

868
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: but go for it.

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Speaker 8: Javonte Williams, Rico Dabdell, and Tray Sermon, It's JK Dobbins

870
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Speaker 8: season again. I refuse to believe that Chase Servon and

871
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 8: JK Dobbins won't emerge from the depth chart mall that

872
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 8: is holding them back and develop into I do think

873
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 8: like those guys as late flyers, will would have been

874
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 8: really good. Dobbin's running this number two. But then like Dowbell,

875
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 8: why can't Rico Dwell just be the new Tony Pollard

876
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 8: who does all the work for the Cowboys offense. And

877
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Speaker 8: then te Kelliott like stumbles in from the five yard

878
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Speaker 8: line because Jerry Jones is demanding it from the luxury box.

879
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 8: And then Javonte Williams just the way that Sean Payton's

880
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 8: talked about him and this guy who's incredible at Carolina

881
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 8: early draft pick. You know, Sean Payton said it takes two.

882
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 8: He said it takes two four years to really repair

883
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 8: that surgery. And if you think about, you know, the

884
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Speaker 8: type of he's not Alvin Kamara. I mean nobody is

885
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Speaker 8: in terms of that physical skill set. But he is

886
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Speaker 8: a really good receiving back when he's allowed to, and

887
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 8: he can be a little more physical than Kamara in

888
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 8: that run game. And I think you're going to see

889
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 8: him lean into that run game because you've got a

890
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Speaker 8: rookie quarterback in bo Nicks who's just blatantly going to

891
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Speaker 8: start seventeen games.

892
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one player, Davonte Williams where the preseason I

893
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: think matters a lot. There's really not that many that

894
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: would be Fantasy football relevant or have a chance to start,

895
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: but he is one that I want to see just

896
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: how he looks because it's it's always that second year

897
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Speaker 1: coming off the ACL And Yeah, I thought Dobbins, if

898
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Speaker 1: I wasn't just looking like a guy who was a

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Speaker 1: homer after he was on the show on Tuesday, yet,

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Speaker 1: he would have been my pick.

901
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Speaker 4: That's why I asked him on because I've heard he's.

902
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Speaker 1: A great guy and like, I'm really big on him,

903
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: and he looked great at practice, So I think those

904
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: are good picks and Daubtell is definitely the guy to

905
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: shout out in that backfield. I would go Tajy Spears

906
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: as my last one, where just his change of direction

907
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: is crazy. He was fifth last year as a rookie

908
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: in PFF's elusive rating. They were such bad run blockers.

909
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: And now you bring in Brian Callahan and his dad.

910
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Of course, who's gonna set it up that running game

911
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: in a much better way? Like he was close to

912
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: the top of the league. I think top fifteen, like

913
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: yards after contact, really good hands. You just watched the

914
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Speaker 1: You watch like a highlight reel of Spears last year.

915
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: It's like a snuff film. It's I don't think people

916
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Speaker 1: realize how.

917
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Speaker 4: Good he was.

918
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Speaker 1: How many people I know he's a two lane guy,

919
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Speaker 1: and they blew it by taking Kendre Miller over Taj

920
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Speaker 1: Spears in New Orleans. Miller hasn't been able to get

921
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Speaker 1: on the field, but I'm all in on him. I'm

922
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Speaker 1: all in on Drew Trankle. By the way, well, I'm

923
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Speaker 1: here too, just as having like a big off ball

924
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: linebacker season. If I want to get really nerdy, the

925
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs bounds out there knows how good he is.

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Speaker 8: Pete Prisco by the way, all in on Will Levis

927
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Speaker 8: because Levis could be the next Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: I trained Peachman on me. Heater with these quarterbacks. I

929
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Speaker 6: don't know what he was. He was on a cold streak.

930
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Speaker 6: He's been hot lately calling out these these young quarterbacks.

931
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Speaker 6: So just worth minching.

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Speaker 8: He's got a good article interviewing Levis talking to Callahan

933
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Speaker 8: and about that offense and what they want to do

934
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Speaker 8: and how those guys are playing.

935
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Speaker 6: So I'm sneaking in on the Titans year.

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Speaker 1: I do think the Titans are going to be much

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Speaker 1: more box office and entertaining than they've been in a while.

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Speaker 1: And Levis is the guy that I've fallen for over

939
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: and over and usually been like half right, like they're oh,

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Speaker 1: they're they're fun and they're kind of good. It's like

941
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Speaker 1: Cutler or Tannahill like, but he's a much more exciting

942
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Speaker 1: version of those guys. So I do think they're going

943
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Speaker 1: to be fun. Good shout to uh, just to the article.

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Speaker 1: I know you're writing articles. CBS NF got some teams

945
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Speaker 1: in and out of the playoffs, A big preview team

946
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Speaker 1: coming up. In terms of best and worst case scenarios

947
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: for every team, and yeah, one of the best to

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Speaker 1: do it. Will appreciate you always. Fine, Greg, all right

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Speaker 1: for Will Brinson. That's gonna be it for today. Really

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Speaker 1: looking forward to Thursday. Show Bo Wolf's gonna be onto,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some Eagles, we're gonna go over all

952
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Speaker 1: the news around the league. Thank you to Nick Schuck

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Speaker 1: two for taking care of the news for me at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show.

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Speaker 4: Until next time, We'll see tomorrow.