Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty and now he.
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 4: Robots have apparently gotten so good at our jobs that
Speaker 4: they're now taking on our leisure activities as well. Meet Ace,
Speaker 4: a ping pong playing robotic arm built by Sony and
Speaker 4: self trained using AI to be from the looks of it,
Speaker 4: a twenty first century Marty Supreme. According to a new study,
Speaker 4: it's beating the pros. Your wreck room may never be
Speaker 4: the same. And the story there is not that AI
Speaker 4: is good at ping pong. It's that the robots are
Speaker 4: now dexterious enough and quick enough and all kinds of
Speaker 4: stuff that obviously they could do all kinds of warehouse
Speaker 4: work and you know whatever manual labor.
Speaker 5: Perhaps Tereus Dupree the new draft choice of the Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 3: So the biggest AI story before we get into the
Speaker 3: masters in the universe, in the tech world and they're
Speaker 3: battling each other, is this, remember Mythos. That's Anthropics' latest
Speaker 3: AI thing that they decided not to release to the
Speaker 3: public because they think it's too good. People could use us.
Speaker 3: You could use it to hack into anything, because it's
Speaker 3: so good. Bloomberg is reporting today that anthropics Mythos has
Speaker 3: been accessed by a small group of unauthorized users who
Speaker 3: know I how have access to it. So this could
Speaker 3: be the end of the world.
Speaker 5: Back to you, Open AI right at the center of
Speaker 5: a coming legal phracus in California that Andrew Stoltman, a
Speaker 5: corporate litigation lawyer, described as We're about to witness the
Speaker 5: landing of the Hindenburg on the deck of the Titanic.
Speaker 1: We know it's going to be crazy and nasty.
Speaker 5: It's all about Elon Musk suing Sam Altman over Musk
Speaker 5: claims Altman and others enriched themselves by betraying the AI
Speaker 5: company's founding mission.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which was put this together originally to be open
Speaker 3: to the world and not for profit, so that AI
Speaker 3: could develop, you know, with some guardrails and people knowing
Speaker 3: what's happened and being super safe. And then Altman went
Speaker 3: off on his own, according to Elon, and decided to
Speaker 3: make it a for profit business.
Speaker 5: Hundreds of court filings have revealed cringe e texts, emails,
Speaker 5: or private diary entries of Musk, Altman, other open AI founders,
Speaker 5: and other public figures, including see I Meta CEO, Mark
Speaker 5: Zuckerberg aka Satan Blah blah blah, Musk insulting Jeff Bezos
Speaker 5: a couple of times, and a journal in which a
Speaker 5: big MAGA donor muses about becoming a billionaire, et cetera,
Speaker 5: et cetera. Uh So, let's get to the cringe. I
Speaker 5: think we've set it up. Oh Jack, did you ever
Speaker 5: on the weekend Relax with a linel? Rhino ketamine? Rhino
Speaker 5: k factors in the story too. As an open AI
Speaker 5: has said that Musk and Altman more or less came
Speaker 5: to an agreement. They had an understanding, but Elon's forgotten
Speaker 5: about it because he was so wasted it burning Man
Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen, while it goes back almost a decade, Yeah,
Speaker 3: was right in the thick of the negotiations between Elon Altman,
Speaker 3: Brockman and others over shifting open AI's nonprofit status.
Speaker 5: Open AI has said Musk might not accurately remember the discussions.
Speaker 5: In a September deposition, Musk was repeatedly asked about rhino ketamine,
Speaker 5: a concoction that's commonly a mixture of the hallucinogenic ketamine
Speaker 5: and an anesthetic drug. Oh, that is an aneety drug
Speaker 5: and amphetamine's stimulants.
Speaker 3: Or did Altman wait until Elon was feeling really good
Speaker 3: about everything? Be like when your wife is until her
Speaker 3: third glass of wine for you think yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I think I should get to a different cord chair.
Speaker 5: Wow. Wow, that's insidious, but good illustration. Here's the deposition
Speaker 5: from last year. Do you know what burning men happens?
Speaker 5: Elon replies, Labor Day weekend, late August, early September.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what rhino cat is? No? Do
Speaker 1: you know what rhino ketamine is? No?
Speaker 5: Do you recall it burning Man in twenty seventeen ingesting
Speaker 5: rhino cat?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, now now the judge, what is ket Is it
Speaker 3: have anything to do with rhinos?
Speaker 5: It's yeah, it makes you into a rhino. I guess
Speaker 5: a wasted rhino, which is a fright?
Speaker 3: Is that something I want to be like a rhino?
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know my rhinos well enough?
Speaker 1: A judge? Has we? Actually?
Speaker 5: In college, in my fraternity, we referred to rhino partying
Speaker 5: occasionally as h fairly aggressive pursuit of pleasure.
Speaker 3: Why the rhino is it?
Speaker 5: It's a very straight ahead, hard charging animal, I think.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't I'm not a drughead. I don't know.
Speaker 5: But so anyway, they've ruled out the talk of a
Speaker 5: rhino cat, but they can bring up Burning Man and
Speaker 5: suggests that maybe Elon was enjoying himself a bit too much.
Speaker 1: But wait, there's more.
Speaker 3: What a verbal agreement? Hole, a verbal agreement while you're
Speaker 3: high at Burning Man? Do you have a conversation about it?
Speaker 3: And you say, yeah, sure, I agree, they get they
Speaker 3: get profit.
Speaker 1: But that depends entirely on the context. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it depends.
Speaker 5: Musks and Musk now allegedly had a secret agent inside
Speaker 5: to Open AI, a long time ally of Musk, miss
Speaker 5: chevon Zillis, who.
Speaker 3: Has two children four.
Speaker 5: Oh really, I'm joking the two secret children, that she
Speaker 5: had twins with them secretly.
Speaker 1: Ow.
Speaker 3: I was just making the joke that any woman Elon
Speaker 3: came in contact with her you have a kid with
Speaker 3: But turned out.
Speaker 1: To be true.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, too close, too close for comfort anyway. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 5: she was an inside her and a friend of Elon.
Speaker 5: She was I had Open AI and documents in the
Speaker 5: case include text messages in which the pair appear to
Speaker 5: discuss how Zilla's can feed information from inside open Ai
Speaker 5: back to Musk, keeping in mind nobody knew they had
Speaker 5: two kids together, and evidently they're back quote unquote together
Speaker 5: and have two more kids now.
Speaker 1: Anyway, She asks him, these are texts.
Speaker 5: Do you prefer I stay close and friendly to open
Speaker 5: Ai to keep information flowing or begin to disassociate trust
Speaker 5: game is about to get tricky, so any guidance for
Speaker 5: how to do right by you is appreciated. Elon replies,
Speaker 5: close and friendly, But we are going to actively try
Speaker 5: to move three or four people from open Ai to Tesla.
Speaker 5: More than that will join over time, but we won't
Speaker 5: actively recruit them.
Speaker 3: God, these are the masters of the universe. They really are.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Open Ai argues Zilla's credibilities undermined by what the company
Speaker 5: said was a romantic relationship and children with Musk that
Speaker 5: it alleges were concealed from Open Ai officials secret children.
Speaker 1: Let's see, Okay, you get.
Speaker 3: To tell the people you work with how many kids
Speaker 3: you have? Is that a rule?
Speaker 5: I think if I'm working at well, let's see, there
Speaker 5: there's hardly an industry that's as competitive as this. Right now,
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, if I'm like working at Chevy
Speaker 5: and I have four children with the CEO of fourty, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I ought to.
Speaker 3: Disclose that there has never been anything as big as this.
Speaker 3: If it turns out to be what they're all claiming,
Speaker 3: whoever gets the you know, artificial superintelligence first could run
Speaker 3: the world and have the first, you know, eight trillion
Speaker 3: dollar company. So there have never been stakes this high
Speaker 3: ever in the history of mankind.
Speaker 5: More gossip uliciousness. Zuckerberg and Musket verbally sparred for years,
Speaker 5: even agreed to a physical fight in twenty twenty three
Speaker 5: with a cage match. I wish that would have happened.
Speaker 5: Disappointingly did not happen.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Messages in the court, however, disclosed a couple of times
Speaker 5: that Zuckerberg reached out to Musk offering help or information
Speaker 5: by it may fit a pattern shown in Musk's history
Speaker 5: of legal battles, even the it's a powerful kowtow to him.
Speaker 5: Now that's an opinion in the Washington Post. But here's
Speaker 5: the text message between Elon and Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg says, looks
Speaker 5: like Doge is making progress. I've got our teams on
Speaker 5: alert to take down content dosing or threatening the people
Speaker 5: on your team.
Speaker 1: Let me know if there's anything else I could do
Speaker 1: to help.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Elon hearts that.
Speaker 5: Comment, then said, looks like Doge is making progress.
Speaker 1: I've got our team something.
Speaker 5: Are you open to the idea of bidding on the
Speaker 5: open AIIP with me and some others, he says, trying
Speaker 5: to recruit Zuckerberg to buy up open Ai, and Zuckerberg
Speaker 5: says want to discuss.
Speaker 1: Live and no, no idea. What happened?
Speaker 5: Then one final revelation, revelation Musk thinks. Musk thinks Jeff
Speaker 5: Bezos is a tool. I would agree.
Speaker 3: Bezos is a tool.
Speaker 5: Also, I'm sure Elon will be happy to have your
Speaker 5: moral support. In a twenty sixteen email exchange between Musk
Speaker 5: and Altman about such a negotiation about computing power and
Speaker 5: stuff mess Musk said he'd prefer to real on computing
Speaker 5: power for Microsoft or Amazon. Blah blah blah. Well, I
Speaker 5: didn't call Jeff because you know, he's a bit of
Speaker 5: a I'm not sure he likes me to be favorable
Speaker 5: because he's got a rocket company that competes with mine
Speaker 5: and I think the word you used at the time
Speaker 5: was Jeff was a tool, and Elon says, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: he can be.
Speaker 1: You know, we could all be a tool from time
Speaker 1: to time.
Speaker 3: Let's be fair.
Speaker 6: Yeh yeah, anywhere definition of tool of course, If nothing
Speaker 6: else we can take away from the story the use
Speaker 6: of the phrase it'll be like the Hindenburg landing on
Speaker 6: the deck of the Titanic.
Speaker 3: It was an interesting drink. My personal take on Elon
Speaker 3: is he is while a loose cannon in a lot
Speaker 3: of different ways, and that could be dangerous on its own.
Speaker 3: I also think he's living in La la land with
Speaker 3: this whole universe of basic income will be good for humanity.
Speaker 3: But my sense of him is that he's not evil.
Speaker 5: No, no mercurial and occasionally misguided.
Speaker 3: That he doesn't only do whatever's going to make him
Speaker 3: the most profit. That's my tick. I could be completely wrong,
Speaker 3: as we all can be about anybody we don't know. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he feels like Altman went, you know, at the
Speaker 3: very beginning of AI when it could have been an
Speaker 3: open AI. That's why they called it that open for
Speaker 3: the world to see what's being developed for the planet.
Speaker 3: How do we want to handle this, you know, the
Speaker 3: other guy Altman decided, no, this is too valuable. We're
Speaker 3: gonna wearing.
Speaker 5: Like one hundred quad zillion dollars available here, and I'm
Speaker 5: getting mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, Elon reminds me of something Henry Kissinger once
Speaker 5: said about the United States, and I'm paraphrasing. It won't
Speaker 5: be quite as pithy as the ancient German, but he said,
Speaker 5: the US is like a big, friendly dog, and sometimes
Speaker 5: when we wag our tail, we knock things.
Speaker 1: Over and break them. I think elon'sola liked.
Speaker 3: That very much. So, yeah, this'll be fun. We're going
Speaker 3: to talk to Steve Hilton. He maybe you've seen him
Speaker 3: on Fox over the years. He's nowrunning for governor of California,
Speaker 3: currently leading the polls. Was featured in the debate last night.
Speaker 5: We'd ask Katie Porter onto the show, but we're afraid
Speaker 5: she'd pour boiling potatoes on us.
Speaker 6: Get out of my shot.
Speaker 3: She mentioned last night being a single mom raising three
Speaker 3: kids on her own, and I thought, yeah, is that
Speaker 3: because you poured boiling potatoes on your husband's head. That's
Speaker 3: why you're raising three kids on your own.
Speaker 5: That's a big part of it. She's get angry, abusive,
Speaker 5: and horrible. Not she get the credit for being a
Speaker 5: single parent if you did that. But AnyWho, more on
Speaker 5: all that stuff coming up, President chub.
Speaker 4: Said in a post yesterday, and truth so so that
Speaker 4: her on is quote collapsing financially.
Speaker 3: Oh they are.
Speaker 4: I had to split an uber to work today with
Speaker 4: Fallon and Kelly Clarkson.
Speaker 3: I'm the only one they won't let sing of the
Speaker 3: car good enough joke, I guess to mention those celebrities,
Speaker 3: he wrote in a car with but the whole weird
Speaker 3: collapsing financially as opposed to Iran, the amount of pain
Speaker 3: we're all in as portrayed on the Trump hating media.
Speaker 3: I just I doesn't seem significantly different than it was before.
Speaker 3: Inflation was bad, everything was too expensive, gases higher, no
Speaker 3: doubt AnyWho Trump just said or is this the headline?
Speaker 3: Or Trump?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Trump said the blockade scares Iran more than bombing. I
Speaker 3: think that might actually be true, that they're more worried
Speaker 3: about the blockade continuing on a day by day basis
Speaker 3: than getting bombed again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was so annoyed.
Speaker 5: Earlier The Wall Street Journal like their lead story on
Speaker 5: the situation, calls it a standoff, and they make it
Speaker 5: seem as though, yes, equal pain on both sides. It
Speaker 5: could escalate into more violence than this is. Just it's terrible,
Speaker 5: so od I like, live in a grocery store and
Speaker 5: you have one box of Ritz Crackers left, and we've
Speaker 5: cut off all food flow into the region and we're
Speaker 5: at a standoff. No we're not, I say, walking down
Speaker 5: the peanut butter aisle.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Everybody's just either love Trump or you hate him, and
Speaker 5: everything goes through that lens.
Speaker 1: Where are the truth seekers? I ask? Where?
Speaker 3: A couple of different things I want to hit on.
Speaker 3: So Trump's talking about bailing out spared airline. I don't
Speaker 3: know a lot about this. Uh My knee jerk reaction
Speaker 3: would be to be very very against it. Why is
Speaker 3: the taxpayer gonna give a ton of money? I forget
Speaker 3: what the figure was to try to keep a crappy
Speaker 3: airline afloat that has showed that it can't stay afloat.
Speaker 3: Ted Cruz and a bunch of other of your like
Speaker 3: real conservatives have come out very strongly against this move.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 3: Let them if they're failing, let them face, let them
Speaker 3: go away. Not every company should succeed, right.
Speaker 5: The only counter argument to that that I've heard is
Speaker 5: that it's enormously difficult and expensive to start an airline,
Speaker 5: and the move is always the trend is always toward consolidation,
Speaker 5: which gives the consumers higher and higher prices and less
Speaker 5: and less options, fewer and fewer options. I'm not making
Speaker 5: that argument. I know that's been the counter argument. For
Speaker 5: some reason, I'd like to know more about this one.
Speaker 5: I'll read up on it.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I find this troubling. She gets to
Speaker 3: do whatever she wants to do. Talking about Elizabeth, Elizabeth Smart,
Speaker 3: remember her held for she's way too many years by
Speaker 3: a scumbag who is Yeah, we all know the story.
Speaker 1: Rapist and his sick o wife, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, she's gotten into bodybuilding and now she's doing this
Speaker 3: super tanned bikini strutting around high heel pageant sort of thing. Oh,
Speaker 3: she can do whatever she wants. But I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I find that troubling. I feel looking at the picture,
Speaker 3: I feel like I did something wrong.
Speaker 5: I feel like there may be a connection, But trying
Speaker 5: to be in control of her body.
Speaker 1: I would be the broad.
Speaker 5: Category of I have no business judging at all, no,
Speaker 5: nothing but sympathy for the gap.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see her in a bikini in
Speaker 3: high hills, though. I just Santa Monica is going to
Speaker 3: try something to try to revitalize some of their touristy areas,
Speaker 3: and I have never understood, I think we as a
Speaker 3: show have never understood why it's illegal practically everywhere in
Speaker 3: the United States to walk down the street with a
Speaker 3: freaking drink in your hand. Anyway, Santa Monica is going
Speaker 3: to try it, like you can do certain places, and
Speaker 3: like all other countries they let you do it all
Speaker 3: the time. Anyway, it's the idea that, like you could,
Speaker 3: you know, walk from one bar down the walk out
Speaker 3: of the bar with a drinking down the street and
Speaker 3: listen to a band or whatever. And obviously that should
Speaker 3: happen more often. In my mind, this is the only
Speaker 3: time I think I've ever been in agreement with Scott
Speaker 3: Weener of San Francisco. Well, I cannot stand on so
Speaker 3: many issues, but he is leading the charge to try
Speaker 3: to establish entertainment zones where adults could consume alcohol purchased
Speaker 3: from bars and restaurants on the street while they walk
Speaker 3: down the street like grown ups, treat us like grown ups. Right,
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna even I'm not even gonna say the
Speaker 3: caveat because it's you're a child if you need the caveat.
Speaker 5: My only caveat is that he's a pervert and a
Speaker 5: child groomer. Well, right, but that's a different topic. I
Speaker 5: just wanted to throw that in. Sure, yes, but the
Speaker 5: fact was in Europe recently, Jack, as you know, for
Speaker 5: an extended time, and by god, they let people carry
Speaker 5: drinks down the street and most of your European countries
Speaker 5: and oh my god, the blood was just running. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: the the rapes, the windows being smashed.
Speaker 1: Oh, so many beatings, brutal.
Speaker 3: So I hope they get they get that going in
Speaker 3: Santa Monica and it becomes it catches on and becomes
Speaker 3: more popular other places. I don't even drink, so I
Speaker 3: don't have a dog in this fight. U goobinatorial debate
Speaker 3: in California last night. Well, I gotta believe the ratings
Speaker 3: were very, very low. But Steve Hilton, we like him.
Speaker 3: He's the leading candidate currently Republican. We're going to talk
Speaker 3: to him next see what he thought of his performance
Speaker 3: in the debate, and the others Armstrong and Geddy, what
Speaker 3: grade does he get on homelessness?
Speaker 1: And what, if anything, would you do differently?
Speaker 3: You have sixty seconds.
Speaker 7: Frank, I would say that the governor has made efforts.
Speaker 7: We've seen him come down to Los Angeles actually go
Speaker 7: out and try to clean some of these streets on effort.
Speaker 3: I would give him an a. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 3: Tavierre Bassera, who's the current leading Democrat running for governor
Speaker 3: in the state of California. They were all asked, though,
Speaker 3: what grade would you give current Governor Gavin Newsom on
Speaker 3: how he's handled homelessness? And Massarah gave him an a
Speaker 3: what would you have to do to earn a beat?
Speaker 1: I mean good? How bad would that look?
Speaker 3: Since we've got so somewhere between a half and a
Speaker 3: third of all the homeless people in the entire nation
Speaker 3: now in one state, what would a bee look like?
Speaker 1: I don't know what's worse than a zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 5: Let's ask Steve Hilton, who is also a candidate for
Speaker 5: the governor of California. Steve's the resume is long and interesting,
Speaker 5: having held the government roles in Britain and longtime American
Speaker 5: now Steve Hilton.
Speaker 1: Welcome Steve, how are you?
Speaker 7: I'm very well?
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Great point from these Democrats. What a fantastic job you've
Speaker 2: been doing on homelessness. What is wrong with these people?
Speaker 2: Like I said, Katie Porter had this whole routine about, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a tough grade because she was a college professor.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course she was never done anything real
Speaker 2: in her life. So she makes this whole thing about
Speaker 2: how what a tough grader she is, and then she says, oh,
Speaker 2: I give him a bee? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'd love to have been in her
Speaker 2: class if she's giving use a bee for the total
Speaker 2: f for failure on every front the homelessness represents. It's
Speaker 2: so unbelievable.
Speaker 3: So you're not a politician or haven't been. It's just
Speaker 3: amazing that people who are politicians they can't. Why do
Speaker 3: they think they can get away with saying things that
Speaker 3: nobody is believing. Why couldn't you, at least as a
Speaker 3: Democrat say look, as a as a state, as a party,
Speaker 3: clearly we've failed at dealing with homelessness because it's only
Speaker 3: gotten worse what would be the downside of saying.
Speaker 2: That, that's the thing I can't work out, like why
Speaker 2: are they so? And also it's very specifically about Newsom.
Speaker 2: I mean, so you could it didn't even have to
Speaker 2: be criticizing the whole party or all the Democrats in
Speaker 2: California or all the mayors you know, like people like
Speaker 2: Karen Bath who, by the way, all of them deserve
Speaker 2: a f every single one of them. But no, it
Speaker 2: was very narrowly on Newsom. What's he got on them?
Speaker 1: Or what's this?
Speaker 3: It's just crazy?
Speaker 5: I would suggest that both to you. It's just the
Speaker 5: nature of machine politics. Loyalty is rewarded, not innovation, not boldness,
Speaker 5: not to finding problems and solving them, just pure slavish
Speaker 5: loyalty to your big contributors.
Speaker 3: Boy, that's contempt for the voters though, because there ain't
Speaker 3: no voter. I don't care who you are. Who thinks Gavin,
Speaker 3: who's who gets an a? I'm dealing with almost this.
Speaker 3: But anyway, how did you like your performance at the
Speaker 3: debate last night?
Speaker 2: I was very happy. You know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: telling me that I won the debate. I had the strongest,
Speaker 2: clearest performance, not just laying out you know what needs
Speaker 2: to change in California, but in detail how we are
Speaker 2: actually going to do it. And that's fair enough because
Speaker 2: I've been working on specific plans and the detail for
Speaker 2: years now, and so I can tell you is that
Speaker 2: you know, they kept trying to trip me up with
Speaker 2: these questions, how are you going to open up oil
Speaker 2: production because the legislature doesn't like it? I said, look,
Speaker 2: I don't need to, because I've done the work. Actually,
Speaker 2: we put new people in at the California Department of
Speaker 2: Geologic and Energy Management, which is the actual place where
Speaker 2: they regulate the oil industry, and we can open up
Speaker 2: production that way and so on. So for each of
Speaker 2: these things, I've actually not just got an answer and
Speaker 2: a headline, but a really specific, common sense plan. And
Speaker 2: I think that's the other main point I got across,
Speaker 2: which is on all of these issues, it's just what
Speaker 2: we're talking about is common sense. And when you actually
Speaker 2: have that and you know that, and it's inside of
Speaker 2: you and you don't need to sort of learn the
Speaker 2: lines or think about what is the politically correct thing
Speaker 2: to say, those things come naturally. For example, on the
Speaker 2: question about whether people who don't speak English and illegal
Speaker 2: immigrants should have commercial driver's licenses, right, obviously common sense,
Speaker 2: And yet they all waffled.
Speaker 3: Hey, since he got a lot of fire. The billionaire
Speaker 3: Tom Steyer on the stage, who all the Democrats attacked
Speaker 3: just for being billionaire, because the billionaires are by definition bad.
Speaker 3: I'm more bothered by the fact that he's a complete
Speaker 3: phony than the fact that he's been successful. What's your
Speaker 3: take on him?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean he was right next to me.
Speaker 2: I mean he's I thought he had a.
Speaker 1: Really bad night, honestly, And because.
Speaker 2: You just and rambles, and this is what happens when
Speaker 2: you try and buy an election and don't try and
Speaker 2: earn it.
Speaker 1: Through actual work.
Speaker 2: So when you're really there and it's just you and
Speaker 2: you don't have one hundred and thirty million dollars of
Speaker 2: ads to cover up how bad you are, everyone can
Speaker 2: see how bad you are. And we could barely finish
Speaker 2: his thoughts, constantly running over the time, halfway through what
Speaker 2: he was trying to say, no clear sense of what
Speaker 2: he would do about anything other than give us more
Speaker 2: of the same Democrat nonsense, but even further left, because
Speaker 2: that's the other than The final point I'd say about
Speaker 2: him is He makes this big fuss about being a billionaire,
Speaker 2: and he didn't actually say it last night, but Conscians says, well,
Speaker 2: I'm a billionaire, so I can't be bought. He sold
Speaker 2: himself to every Democrat interest group going to try and
Speaker 2: get their endorsement, the unions, the far left activists.
Speaker 1: Look at his.
Speaker 2: Positions on ice and all this stuff. He's even more
Speaker 2: extreme on all of those things than Gavin Newsom is.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It's further to the left on climate change, on immigration,
Speaker 2: on taxes, you know you want single payer healthcare. It's
Speaker 2: just unbelievable. And I think that when people look at
Speaker 2: these Democrats there last night, he said what this is?
Speaker 2: This is what they're really saying, that after sixteen years
Speaker 2: of one party rule, we want to go even further
Speaker 2: and faster in the wrong direction. No one wants that.
Speaker 2: Last night really showed me. I think why we are
Speaker 2: definitely going to get change this year in California, because
Speaker 2: these people have nothing new to offer, and people in
Speaker 2: this state are desperate for a new direction.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: As you've said, if you want different results, vote differently.
Speaker 5: A serious policy question, but first this at any point
Speaker 5: where you concerned that you would be physically attacked by
Speaker 5: Katie Porter given her a volcanic temper.
Speaker 2: Well, I was in safe territory because there was no
Speaker 2: kitchen nearby, no mashed potatoes anywhere near the studio, and
Speaker 2: that's obviously that's her go to.
Speaker 3: So I've got, sir, weapon of choice, of choice.
Speaker 2: And also I had Tom Steyle in between us a
Speaker 2: human shield.
Speaker 1: So it was okay, Thank God for that, all right.
Speaker 5: So this serious policy question getting back to and I
Speaker 5: hate I'm on the record, is hating using the term
Speaker 5: the homeless because that evokes notions of a single mother
Speaker 5: who just had one too many medical bills, blah blah blah,
Speaker 5: when what we're talking about is junkies, bums and junkies
Speaker 5: in the street because the innocent down on the luck homeless,
Speaker 5: they're not a parent, they don't cause the problems, they're
Speaker 5: not ruining public spaces. It's the bums and junkies everybody's
Speaker 5: talking about. Steve Hilton, Governor of California, how do you
Speaker 5: address that problem differently than the F minus approach of
Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom and the Democrats.
Speaker 2: It's a three point plan, but number one is the
Speaker 2: most important, exactly to your point, enforce the law, it
Speaker 2: is illegal to live and camp on the streets. Every
Speaker 2: time you see a homeless encampment, that is illegal. It's
Speaker 2: against the law. It's always been against the law. But
Speaker 2: all of these cities and the state have just gone
Speaker 2: along with it on this basic you know, oh, we can't,
Speaker 2: we can't move people on because it's not compassionate. And
Speaker 2: then the other thing they've done is is hied behind
Speaker 2: a court ruling. It was called the Boise ruling for
Speaker 2: those who really want the details. That's a Ninth Circuit
Speaker 2: ruling which stated that you are that local governments and
Speaker 2: state governments can't remove people from the streets unless there
Speaker 2: is sufficient shelter locally available for everyone who is homeless
Speaker 2: in that area. That they used that for years to
Speaker 2: say we can't do anything. Our hands are tide. But
Speaker 2: even that was an excuse. It was because the ruling
Speaker 2: did not define what shelter actually meant. It could have
Speaker 2: been a huge building with with cots in it, you
Speaker 2: could put everyone in it, one guy. It didn't define it.
Speaker 2: These people defined it as what they call permanent supportive housing,
Speaker 2: these apartments for like million dollars each, and that was
Speaker 2: always wrong. Then the Supreme Court in twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: overturned the Boise ruling in a ruling called in a
Speaker 2: case called Grants pass Ver there is no excuse whatsoever,
Speaker 2: and so my very clear commitment is that if local
Speaker 2: politicians will do not remove people from the streets, I
Speaker 2: will as governor use state law enforcement resources, of which
Speaker 2: we have plenty, to remove people from the streets. Step two,
Speaker 2: exactly to your point, is to get them into treatment
Speaker 2: for addiction. It used to be clear rehab or jail.
Speaker 2: That used to be what it was like in California.
Speaker 2: We're going to get back to that. And Number three
Speaker 2: mental health treatment, which Gavin Newsom has diverted the money
Speaker 2: from counties for mental health into his homeless industrial complex,
Speaker 2: the nonprofits and the crony developers. That's going to change,
Speaker 2: and we're going to have enough mental health beds so
Speaker 2: that people with severe mental health problems can be treated
Speaker 2: them where they are right now, which is either on
Speaker 2: the streets or frankly, in our jails. That's the plan
Speaker 2: enforced the law drug or alcohol treatment, whether you like
Speaker 2: it or not, and mental health capacity increased.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: Steve Hilton, governor candidate for the Governor of California on
Speaker 5: the line, Steve. I'm not on your staff, but I'd
Speaker 5: happily quit this dead end job and join it, and
Speaker 5: I would write for you just a couple of very
Speaker 5: short blurbs, and I think this would be effective.
Speaker 1: You tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: You need to make the point that California has spent
Speaker 5: whatever it is at this point, fifteen twenty twenty five
Speaker 5: billion dollars on the so called homeless problem. Somebody has
Speaker 5: received that money and there have been no results. If
Speaker 5: we can just help people understand the point is to
Speaker 5: distribute all that money.
Speaker 1: It's it's a cash giveaway to.
Speaker 5: Crony's with the journey the Christmas ornament of the junkies.
Speaker 1: To justify it exactly right.
Speaker 2: And the two and this is when we say the
Speaker 2: homeless industrial complex. We can be really clear what that is.
Speaker 5: It is the.
Speaker 2: Cronies, two types the homeless non profits as they call themselves,
Speaker 2: these service providers. They and the services they provide never
Speaker 2: include getting people of drugs or alcohol, so the problem
Speaker 2: is never solved, so they keep receiving the money. And
Speaker 2: some of these nonprofits have chief executives on salaries of
Speaker 2: a million dollars a year or more. That's the first
Speaker 2: part of the cronies, and then the second of these
Speaker 2: developers they call who specifically build these what they call
Speaker 2: permanent supportive housing at an absolute ripoff. Friend of mine
Speaker 2: builds apartment buildings in the Bay Area market rate. He
Speaker 2: says he can do them without all the nonsense that
Speaker 2: goes with it. Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per
Speaker 2: door permanent supportive housing unit in the Bay Era one million,
Speaker 2: four times as much. Where's the money going into the
Speaker 2: pockets of these crony developers and guess what they do
Speaker 2: with their money? A bunch of it goes in donations
Speaker 2: to the politicians who give them these sweetheart deals. I
Speaker 2: think that is the corruption. That's where the money's going.
Speaker 3: My final comment, I like the beard. I think it
Speaker 3: makes you look more like a governor. Really like the beard.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take it. I'll keep it very good, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Actually, the Chad Bianco, the other Republican, made a snide
Speaker 5: comment about that. But the idea that we would like
Speaker 5: try to pit Republican against Republican given the grievous state
Speaker 5: of the state of California, would be terrible.
Speaker 1: So we won't Steve.
Speaker 5: Hilton, hang in there, go get him. You got to
Speaker 5: break through. You got to get some attention. I hope
Speaker 5: you can.
Speaker 1: Great to be with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We're going to keep fighting even harder.
Speaker 2: I know we can pull this off, we really can.
Speaker 1: We've got to kick these people out.
Speaker 2: We can't go on like this.
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Speaker 5: his challenge is that there's just just oceans of apathy
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Speaker 3: You combine that with it, you know, the machine politics
Speaker 3: of all they gotta do is organize or organize the
Speaker 3: various groups that always will back whoever they land on.
Speaker 3: That's just what they're trying to figure out. Now. At
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Speaker 3: you know, either by leaving a horsehead in their bed
Speaker 3: or offering them some high paying job being on a
Speaker 3: board or whatever. They're going to get the other people
Speaker 3: out of the race and that'll probably be that.
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Speaker 3: The real flaw with democracies, And as always it's the
Speaker 3: best system except for all the others, or worst system
Speaker 3: except for all the others.
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Things have to get so bad before people pay attention
Speaker 3: or are willing to try something different. They just have
Speaker 3: to get impossibly.
Speaker 5: Awful, particularly in a state like California that's gone so
Speaker 5: far left, and whether it's hatred of Trump or the
Speaker 5: Iraq war before it have just the Republican brand is
Speaker 5: in the toilet and there are just two parties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, we'll be keeping our eye on that. In
Speaker 3: two weeks the ballots go out for people to vote
Speaker 3: by mail and everything like that to choose the top
Speaker 3: two candidates. It could be two Republicans, it could be
Speaker 3: no Republicans. It's the way they jungle primary works. It's
Speaker 3: the lava jungle. Anyway, more on the way stay here.
Speaker 1: I mean, what is wrong with these people?
Speaker 2: Like I said Katie Porter at this whole routine about oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a tough grade because she was a college professor.
Speaker 2: I'd love to have been in her class. She's giving
Speaker 2: use a B for the total f for failure on
Speaker 2: every front. So unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the pitch and Carlos hits.
Speaker 7: A shot Gilbert and he caught it somehow, and he
Speaker 7: did catch it.
Speaker 1: I guess they already caught him.
Speaker 3: That was Gilbert.
Speaker 1: That pot was scald and right back to Gilbert. And
Speaker 1: there's some confusion on the field. It may be that
Speaker 1: Cortes has been awarded at first base.
Speaker 3: What happened was so it was one hundred and eight
Speaker 3: mile an hour line drive from the batter catches the
Speaker 3: way your shirt kind of spreads out in between the
Speaker 3: buttons a little bit. The ball went in that gap
Speaker 3: into his jersey, Hellen, and the pictures like spinning around
Speaker 3: like where the hell's the ball right, and it's kind
Speaker 3: of hanging out of his jersey, and then he realized
Speaker 3: where it is, reaches into his jersey and pulls it out,
Speaker 3: which I didn't see them in that result. That's an out,
Speaker 3: I assume, because you can catch the game first base. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well that was still during the confusion part. Oh oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know what they ultimately did. It took a
Speaker 3: while to figure out what was going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, you can trap a ball against your
Speaker 5: body and it's an out. I think but not against
Speaker 5: like the wall or well obviously not.
Speaker 3: But if it's your body, because you can catch it
Speaker 3: with your hand, right, you don't have to use your glove. Sure,
Speaker 3: can you catch it under your chin with your like
Speaker 3: you're doing.
Speaker 1: Short of juggling trick or your hat. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I'll have to ask family buddy Brian
Speaker 1: the Empire.
Speaker 3: I think people have caught it with their hats before.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like I've seen that before. Anyway,
Speaker 3: that was something which reminded me of I've seen a
Speaker 3: couple of things on YouTube recently where they have you
Speaker 3: they have a camera at the plate and somebody throwing
Speaker 3: one hundred mile an hour pitch at you. And it's
Speaker 3: the best like version I've ever seen what it would
Speaker 3: look like to be facing one hundred mile an hour pitch.
Speaker 3: It is shocking. I don't know how anybody ever has
Speaker 3: any control over hitting it or where they want to
Speaker 3: hit it.
Speaker 5: It's miraculous hitting a major league pitch. Yeah, I've seen those.
Speaker 5: It's like a full sized video of the pitcher, and
Speaker 5: you can do specific pitchers wind up and release, and
Speaker 5: you can have the ball come out of their release point.
Speaker 5: At their velocity, their spin rates and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So you know you're you're hitting against whatever. I wanted
Speaker 5: to say, Ichi ro Show, Hey Otani, you're hitting against
Speaker 5: him tomorrow night. You can train up today on what
Speaker 5: his pitching looks like.
Speaker 3: That has to be the most amazing thing in all
Speaker 3: of sports, isn't it to hit one hundred mile an
Speaker 3: hour pitch? To be able to do that at all?
Speaker 3: I got to think of all your like major sports
Speaker 3: of anything that if you put an average person out there,
Speaker 3: that would be the hardest thing to do. Although maybe
Speaker 3: if you go with the NFL, just because of the
Speaker 3: size the average person like you.
Speaker 1: Just and the terrible physical danger you're in.
Speaker 5: Right yeah, fading a seven stop drap drop as a
Speaker 5: quarterback as BA a attempt to behead you.
Speaker 3: How about this, And this wouldn't be hard. I could
Speaker 3: do this. You run out twenty yards, turn around. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna throw the ball to you. I won't throw it
Speaker 3: too hard. I could catch it, but I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: killed when I catch it, so I probably couldn't.
Speaker 1: Catch it, right right, Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hitting a major league pitch, I think is probably
Speaker 5: about the hardest individual task in sports.
Speaker 3: Uh, Trump just reclassified marijuana, which is getting a lot
Speaker 3: of a t we'll bring you up to speed on that. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we need to check in on Iran. We're gonna talk
Speaker 3: to our old friend lanh Chen, who's one of the
Speaker 3: best political pundits out there, among things, to ask him
Speaker 3: about how about Trump's plan to bail out Spirit Airline?
Speaker 3: Do we taxpayers want to buy an airline because it's failing?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Or is that socialism? A lot of people are calling
Speaker 3: it socialism.
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