WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What Stood Out in SF? 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:03.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.760 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.079 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.400 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:26.720 wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.560 It is Sunday, August twelve, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:35.120 number twenty five. Welcome to the most anticipated hour of 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.159 your day. We hope the Break. I am Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.160 I got my normal crew here with me, Nick Eatman, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.800 Amber Garcia, David Hellman. We appreciate you guys taking some 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:49.120 time with us to talk some time with radio down. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.000 Thank you, Thank you Amber for welcoming. Nick. What are 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.840 you talking about? Because your stuff's going on here, just 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.160 like you would tell you turn your radio down. I'm 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.600 paying attention to our Actually, we had an update this 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.160 week on our app. So now when you go into 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.080 the app, you'll see immediately you should see our show 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.360 pop up, and you should also be able to see 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.880 the fan posts, what we'll put up, the poll questions 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.759 and where you can just respond to what we're saying yes, 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.560 whether you like it or dislike, you can vote as 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.399 many times as you like. But our fan question for 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.160 today is who impressed the most in the preseason game. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.200 We're gonna talk a lot about that game. We're gonna 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.640 dive into all the details and hear from these guys 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.039 what they liked, what they saw that they liked, what 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.560 they didn't like coming out of that game, and there 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.680 were lots of things to to really like. Cowboys lose 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.199 the game, but certainly there were a lot of things 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.360 that you could like if you were watching that game 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.679 from from the perspective of what a preseason game really is. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.319 Let's start first, though, with a little bit of news. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:50.040 Randy Gregory yesterday returns to practice. He's out there with 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.840 the team yesterday in pads. Talk to me about what 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.400 he was able to do yesterday and what you think 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.240 he'll be able to do. I guess over the next 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.560 week before they break camp on Friday. He was able 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.960 to go through some pass rrestrials with the dummies. That's 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.440 about it. Yeah, that's progress. It is progress. It's something 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.399 that resembles football, which is great for him, and it's 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.720 a step in the right direction. It's not overly exciting. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.840 He basically did you know he did the defensive endrills 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.160 that they do before every single practice. Honestly, I don't. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.160 I don't know what it means going forward, because you know, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.280 it's been we've been out here for like twenty days, 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.399 I think, and this is his first time getting involved, 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.720 and so I wonder how much more he's going to 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.880 do between now and what. I mean, the last practice 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.520 is probably Thursday, and it's probably not even gonna be 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.480 a real deal practice. So I think this is gonna 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.680 be slow and steady, Like, I don't know that he's 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.240 going to do a whole lot more than that until 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.240 we get back from Oxnard. You'll still think there's a chance, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.520 And I'll pose this question, Nick, do you still think 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.799 there's a chance that he's actually ready to play by 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.720 week one or do you think this is something where 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.320 maybe he's ready to play by mid season. M oh 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.040 if he better be ready to play faster than mid season. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:06.839 If they're going to carry him on the fifty three 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.040 and they're going to a week one, you think he's 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.440 ready to play week one. I don't know if he's 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.520 ready to play, but I think he puts a uniform on, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.480 he wears number ninety four, and he gets out there. 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.760 I mean, could he be inactive. I guess for a 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.040 few weeks he could be yeah, yeah, sorry, when do 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.079 you want me to answer this? My bad? I think 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.679 that I think he does. I mean, I do think 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.000 that he will play Week one. I think he's gonna play. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.919 I think they've waited on him for two years pretty much, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:34.000 and he needs to get himself now. It's on him. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.480 I mean, I know that they can say how they 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.320 want to but ease it into the situation. But it's 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.840 on him to say, all right, you've got to get 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.760 yourself to the point where you can play even at 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.839 an eight to ten snap, you know, just somewhere where 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.440 you can contribute. I think that he will be ready. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.600 He may not be as ready as he you know, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.760 as he could be. But we've seen with Dan Bailey, 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.320 we've seen with Jalen Smith. They put guys out there 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.920 when they're not ready. That's the NFL. You have to 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.400 do that. I think Gregory has to play if he's 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.000 anywhere close to being ready. One other guy that showed 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.400 up yesterday with Sean Lee, he has although he's been 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.160 out here. He hasn't really been allowed to practice. What 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.400 do you see from him yesterday? What was he able 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.240 to do and not do? I guess at this point 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.240 he is basically one of those guys. And we always 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.919 talked about him how he's always ready. I mean, you 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.440 throw him in there and he just looks great, and 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.440 he was able to move around just like he has 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.279 been practicing. I mean, it looks like a guy that 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.000 has been practicing every single day. He doesn't need all that, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.080 and people want to come about him on social media. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.560 It's like, oh, we have to protection on Leah. He's 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.760 so weak, blah blah. No he yes, he has those 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:47.120 injuries whatever, but he is not weak. He's super strong. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.440 And I'm just laughing. I didn't know Twitter sounded like that, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.400 but it does. I guess it does sound that way. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.000 Well when I read it, Yeah, that's what she puts 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:01.880 at the front of it. Anyways, he's looking great. He 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.280 doesn't need the extra practice, and yesterday he showed that. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.400 I mean, two weeks into the training camp and he 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.360 looks like bad. He's awesome. All right, let's go ahead 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.800 and flip over to the game. Like I said before, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.360 I think although the Cowboys lost twenty four twenty one. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.240 If you're watching preseason, as you should, from the standpoint 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.039 of how did the players look, how did the first 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.279 team look, first team offense and defense? There were lots 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.080 of things to come out of that game feeling very 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.080 positive about. And I think we have to start with 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.240 Dak Prescott. He played one series. He was three or 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.480 three for thirty nine yards, had a touchdown pass, And 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.840 I thought the most impressive thing was a touchdown pass. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:40.800 Was what we had been talking about out here that 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.000 he wasn't doing quite as well, which is being able 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.360 to connect on those throws down feel this was a 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.920 traditional nine route, great route in my opinion by Michael Gallop. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:53.680 But I want to hear from you guys from the 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.880 standpoint of what you saw in that game and what 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.120 you've seen out here. How do you make the two 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.520 mesh up From the standpoint of him just you know, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.159 he hadn't been great, I hear all the time, but 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.000 looked really, really crisp and looked really good in the game. Well, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.760 I think it looked exactly like twenty sixteen in a 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.200 lot of ways. He didn't look that great in practice. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.120 The lights come on, he goes out marches them right 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.320 down the field, and he did it very in a 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.880 methodical way. They have total control of the game. Then 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.480 all of a sudden the fourth quarter they lose exactly 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.560 like they did in the Rams. He looked it looked 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.640 very similar to that game. But from a perspective, I 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.680 thought he did a really nice job of just kind 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.080 of getting first downs and moving along and then scoring 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.200 with a big touchdown. My favorite thing about the entire 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.000 thing was yesterday's practice. When we got back out here, 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.320 he looked bad again. He was he couldn't eat. He 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.320 missed on about three long throws he had Michael Gallop 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.640 and team drills. He had a couple of balls that 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.520 should have been long games that he just put He 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.080 led his receiver a little too much, and I was 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.839 just like, that's you man. Do you deck because it 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.560 looked good when the lights were on. I'll tell you 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.400 that any friends that cover and like in the SEC 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.159 that cover Mississippi State, not really No. I just wonder 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.000 if you went back there and they were like, he 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.240 was horrible at practice, the spring game run in the 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.720 white game, he was bad. The bummer with that is 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.080 like college football is such a mystery, Like they don't 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.000 open their practices for anybody, so I don't know, but 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.560 it's certainly the case in the NFL. Like, I mean, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.480 he looked fantastic out there the other night. It looked 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.040 exactly like you wanted to look. They didn't even have Zeke, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.240 it didn't matter, picked up a crucial third down, the 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.880 touchdown pass was beautiful, and then he comes back out 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.920 here and it's just like ye kind of herky jerky 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.640 AND's just it is what it is. And to our credit, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.440 if you rewind the tape back before the game, I 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.400 think we all said the same thing, where like, it 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.520 doesn't look very good, I'm not worried about it, and 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.240 that's how I feel. That's how I felt before. It's 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.080 definitely how I feel after. Let's talk a little bit 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.520 bout Cooper Rush, who I think had a great game 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.560 as well. He was fifteen to twenty three hundred and 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.960 forty five yards a touchdown, ninety seven point two passer rating. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.720 That's a good stat line for a guy playing a 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.120 significant amount of time. Just thinking about Cooper Rushing kind 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.080 of where he fits on this team, do you guys 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.320 feel comfortable with him being your primary backup. He doesn't 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.680 have a lot of experience, but he seems to be 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.960 getting every year, getting a little bit better. He's shown 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.800 some things last year. He shown a few flashes in 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.800 the first preseason games year. How do you feel about 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.960 him as your primary backup? Not very good? I mean, 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.040 I don't know. I've never seen him do anything but 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.360 play in the preseason. Honestly, I don't want to nitpick, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.360 because he wound up playing a pretty good game, But 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.400 in the when he first came in, arguably when he 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.719 was playing a better San Francisco defense, I don't think 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.400 he looked that great. He got better as the game 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.400 war on, and if you want to be cynical, maybe 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.480 as the talent level on the defense dropped off a 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.560 little bit. We talked about this. I don't think you 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.120 were here, but you know, me and Nick both agree 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.600 that it would be nice to have a more veteran quarterback, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.640 even if he's not your backup, just a veteran in 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.079 the room who's done there and played some games. I 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.640 don't know how you can feel good about a guy 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.960 who's never done it better that I mean. To me, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.480 I would think what I see, he's better than those 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.120 veteran guys that you've had as backups in the past. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.680 Is like, who are you talking about? Kellen Moore? Definitely 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:16.320 better than Kellen Moore now his coach. Yes, okay, I'll 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:21.840 give you Matt Castle, Brandon Wheedon. No, I don't think 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.200 so really better player. You're saying it's Cooper Rush better 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.160 than Matt Castle and Brandon Wheedon. It's hard to know 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.640 because it is hard to know. But for example, yes, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.560 I mean at the game, and we've talked about this, Nick, 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.600 you know, he does not look good. He doesn't look 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.160 good Cooper Rush on the field, he doesn't look good. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.360 It's not a game game, but he's able to get 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.000 the job done and he was able to move down 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.720 the offense. Right. I agree with you there. If you 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.599 had to play a game, it's probably not going to 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.320 look that much different. But for what I want that 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.360 guy to do the majority of his time is to 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.280 be an extra set of I for Dak and be 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.719 some experience. And he hasn't. He hasn't played any at all. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.160 He's never started a game, and then his quarterback coach 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.560 has only started six. So, as we've said before, somebody 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.800 in the room, okay, okay, But for example, Mark Sanchez, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.559 he brought the experience with him and when we know 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.640 how much he helped Dak Yeah, off the field, but 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.160 when it was time for Mark to get on the field, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.000 I mean it was horrible. So yes, I get that, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.440 but that's where the coaching comes from. That's what the 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.560 coaching should be able to do. But when you throw 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.160 in the backup in the field, I mean he should 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.920 be able to perform as well. And the veteran guys 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.600 that they've gone into the field, I mean, they haven't 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.599 showed that much better. I agree with you there, I 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.400 Cooper Rush. It's not his fault. I mean, this is 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.960 he hasn't asked to be you know, he signed with 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.400 the Cowboys. He's done everything they've asked him to do. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.880 But I'm just saying, at some point, I think that 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.079 there needs to be a veteran presence. Maybe it's a 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.040 third quarterback. He's inactive all the time, you know, maybe 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.559 he is a third quarterback. He's at fourteen years he's 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.480 in act if he wears a ball cap, he does, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.199 he's not going to play in the game, but he's 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.480 sitting there on the sidelines and he can help that's 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.200 all I'm saying. And that doesn't no, no, yeah, and 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.679 a linebacker out of a job, I mean, not somebody 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.840 out of a job tied in maybe well, I mean, well, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.360 it's tricky too, because this is a conversation I keep having, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:24.560 which is this team's keeping three quarterbacks and Mike White's 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.240 gonna be one of them, I feel like, so it 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.920 makes it kind of tricky to keep a veteran when 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.640 you have that much commitment to youth. Which and I'm 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.640 not hating on Cooper Rush. He's done, like Nick said, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.560 he's done everything they've asked him to. But it's hard 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.520 for me when you say comfortable, it's hard for me 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.240 to feel comfortable with a guy who's never started in 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.480 an NFL game. Yeah, And what I what I don't 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.480 like is kind of what all of you guys are saying, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.000 is just the overall experience in the room. Like it 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.840 would be one thing if you still had Wade Wilson 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.240 as your quarterbacks coach, then having three young quarterbacks, in 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.920 my opinion, it's not a huge deal because you got 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.240 a ton of experience there to be able to to 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.360 give to those young guys. But now you got Kelly Moore, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.440 who's a young guy coaching those guys, and a room 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.079 full of inexperienced guys. I mean, Dak has a lot 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.200 of experience for second year player, but he still is 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.560 a guy going into his third year in the NFL, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.040 So there's not a ton of experience in that room. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.800 I think that can be somewhat of an issue. And 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.800 if you're gonna have a third quarterback, I think I'd 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.559 like it to be a more veteran guy. But I 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.920 probably think that. I mean, I think that they might 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.600 like Mike White and they feel like they probably have 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.199 to have him on the roster if they like him, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.520 and like what his potential is down the road. I mean, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.240 just little things like week one at Carolina, you're, you know, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.640 the pre preparing for the week of Okay, you know, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.600 where's the play clock and the crowd noise and all 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.079 that kind of stuff, and you know, it's like little 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.480 things of like, so where's the locker room, man? Kellen 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.360 Moore's like, I don't know. I mean I've never been there. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.600 I never started that game, you know, and okay, Coop 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.520 Russia definitely doesn't know. Mike White doesn't know anything. You know. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.280 Dad's like yeah, I haven't even played here either. I 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.440 mean just little things like that. Yeah, you figure it out. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.560 I get it. But it's just like, at some point 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.880 you'd like somebody to be like, well, back at you know, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.040 back in my day when when we played at Soldier 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.000 Field or something. You know, a guy that says, actually 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.120 has a little experience, just know when we're going into 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.480 this end zone, the wind does this little funny thing, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.800 like if there are little things that you could probably 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.000 pick up from as a veteran that this group will 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.160 not have the benefit that. Now. You also have to 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.280 remember the head coach played quarterback in NFL for a 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.439 very long time, so maybe he lends some of that 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.280 to that room because he knows he has to because 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.600 it's not there right now. Who knows, but he does 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.480 have that experience that he can lend. I think that 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.160 might help. Let's talk about another position that we've talked 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.880 a lot about during training camp. We haven't always said 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.360 very glowing things about him, but I thought they played 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.040 pretty well the tight ends day. Give me your assessment 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.040 on what you thought of the tight ends in this game. Yeah, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.760 I've thought it was a little bit of a mixed bag. Honestly, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.280 you go back and watch, like, you know, we've given 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.760 all of them grief to some degree. But Dalton Schultz, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.200 he had some nice blocks there at the start of 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.120 the game when he was working with the first team, 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.080 just drove his man right downfield, kind of got bullied 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.240 a little bit on the goal line, which we've seen 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.000 out here. I think Blake Jarwin had the first catch 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.560 of the game, did he not? So Yeah, I mean, 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.960 I thought I thought they played well for the most part. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.760 I know people are upset that Rico only got like 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.640 sixteen snaps, I think, but I think for the most part, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.080 the guys that I'm looking at to contribute to the 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.559 you know, the first team offense, I thought played pretty 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.280 well for the most part. I thought. One of the 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.160 things that was most telling is we talked about what 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:23.880 are they gonna do. Are they gonna stick with playing 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.080 twelve personnel as much as they usually do. Are they 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.360 gonna maybe when they go to thirteen personnel when they 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.080 need that bigger lineup. Are they gonna bring an offensive lineman. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.360 They did that early in the game, and with the 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.680 first team they did some twelve personnel, they did some 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.240 thirteen personnel, and all those situations they had tight ends 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.720 on the field, and as Dave said, they actually played 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.960 pretty well. And it does and I'll get your opinions 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.720 on it. I think it signals that they don't necessarily 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.680 think they have to change what they've been doing over 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.600 the last few years. From the standpoint of how they 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.320 deploy their tight ends. It seems like, again this is 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.880 just preseason, but it seems like they may be very 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.520 willing put those guys out there in those situations. Yeah, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.480 and if Swain's gonna, you know, kick out and have 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.200 some nice blocks that like he did, nobody's gonna really 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.280 pancake anyone from the tight end position. Norton and then 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.880 they haven't in the last few years. I mean, not 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.800 that Jason Witten has always been a getting the way blocker. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.360 He's been good at it. You know, he probably would 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.720 take offense to that, but he's been a very good, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.760 getting the way type of blocker with the technique and 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.640 all that. And now Martellis Bennett was really really good. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.640 He was a really good blocker there. That's the last 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.120 I think, great blocking tight end that they've had. I 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.400 don't know if they're gonna go out and try to 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.040 get one of those they're gonna say, all right, let's 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.280 work on the technique. We've got a good coach in here. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.480 Let's just try to make sure that we were sound 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.200 and what we do. And yeah, I don't think that 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.280 they change anything. I'm curious because if I had to guess, 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.800 knowing this coaching staff the way we do, you're probably right. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.560 They're not gonna change up a whole lot. But the 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.840 other thing is, that's what preseasons four is seeing what 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.280 you have. So you throw those guys out there and 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.040 see if they can do it. Hopefully they're encouraged by 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.080 what they saw and they give it another look in 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.200 the next game and so on. But if they, you know, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.280 they trot those guys out there in the preseason and 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.600 it's a disaster, maybe that informs their decision making as 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.240 the season gets closer. Have you, guys, after that game, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.840 have you come to any any more of a conclusion 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.320 on which tight end you think will separate themselves, who 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.920 becomes a starter, Who are the guys that probably going 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.720 to be kept on this team. Should fans read anything 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.120 into the fact that Rico wasn't out there when they 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.440 were running out three tight ends there early in the game, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.560 what were your just general overall look at the tight 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.040 end position coming out of that game, I think what 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.320 they they obviously want it to go a certain way, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.320 and that's how they put it out there, and nothing 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.360 changed from that. They want Swam to be the guy. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.880 They want Jarwin to also be involved. They want Shultz 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.800 to have a role because he needs to make the team. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.960 And maybe they don't want Ricos catching a touchdown in 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.800 the first two weeks of preseason and then causing up 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.880 a big stir on everything, so they kind of kept 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:00.640 him back. Okay, bug, Yeah, why all right, We're gonna 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.400 take our first break. When we come back, I do 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.240 want to talk some more about the offense. We'll get 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.760 into the running backs, offensive line, and wide receivers, and 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.520 then we'll fall over to the defensive side of the ball, 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.199 where there were also some very very good things that 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.520 we saw, particularly at the linebacker position. We'll do that 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.320 when we come right back. 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