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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Sunday, August twelve, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number twenty five. Welcome to the most anticipated hour of

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Speaker 1: your day. We hope the Break. I am Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: I got my normal crew here with me, Nick Eatman,

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Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, David Hellman. We appreciate you guys taking some

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Speaker 1: time with us to talk some time with radio down.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you Amber for welcoming. Nick. What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? Because your stuff's going on here, just

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Speaker 1: like you would tell you turn your radio down. I'm

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Speaker 1: paying attention to our Actually, we had an update this

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Speaker 1: the app, you'll see immediately you should see our show

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Speaker 1: pop up, and you should also be able to see

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Speaker 1: the fan posts, what we'll put up, the poll questions

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Speaker 1: and where you can just respond to what we're saying yes,

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Speaker 1: whether you like it or dislike, you can vote as

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Speaker 1: many times as you like. But our fan question for

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Speaker 1: today is who impressed the most in the preseason game.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a lot about that game. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: dive into all the details and hear from these guys

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Speaker 1: what they liked, what they saw that they liked, what

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Speaker 1: they didn't like coming out of that game, and there

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Speaker 1: were lots of things to to really like. Cowboys lose

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Speaker 1: that you could like if you were watching that game

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Speaker 1: from from the perspective of what a preseason game really is.

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Speaker 1: Let's start first, though, with a little bit of news.

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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory yesterday returns to practice. He's out there with

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Speaker 1: the team yesterday in pads. Talk to me about what

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Speaker 1: he was able to do yesterday and what you think

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Speaker 1: week before they break camp on Friday. He was able

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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, that's progress. It is progress. It's something

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Speaker 1: that resembles football, which is great for him, and it's

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Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. It's not overly exciting.

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Speaker 1: He basically did you know he did the defensive endrills

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Speaker 1: that they do before every single practice. Honestly, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it means going forward, because you know,

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Speaker 1: And I'll pose this question, Nick, do you still think

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Speaker 1: if he better be ready to play faster than mid season.

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Speaker 1: If they're going to carry him on the fifty three

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we have to protection on Leah. He's

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Speaker 1: so let's get back into this. We're talking about the game.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys lose. Cowboys have a pretty good game, Cowboys. I

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Speaker 1: think Cowboys fans probably feel pretty positive coming out of

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Speaker 1: that game. Let's talk a little bit about the running backs.

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Speaker 1: We know obviously that Ezekiel Eli and Rod Smith are

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Speaker 1: making this team, but then there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a gray area on who's going to separate themselves as

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Speaker 1: the other guys. Talk to me about what you saw

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Speaker 1: from the backups, particularly both Scarborough Darius Jackson. You can

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Speaker 1: throw in Trey Williams if you like, but talk to

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Speaker 1: me about the backups and what you saw in this game,

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Speaker 1: and if that cleared up anything in your mind about

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Speaker 1: who maybe coming out of that group as possibilities to

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Speaker 1: make the team. I don't think there's any gray area

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Speaker 1: whatsoever anymore after watching that, and I'm not I don't

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Speaker 1: care about bows twenty eight yard run. I mean, it

443
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Speaker 1: was impressive, but just seeing the way they planned that

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Speaker 1: game out for bo Scarborough just told me all I

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Speaker 1: need to know that they I mean, they want him

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Speaker 1: on the team. Not like they have anything against Darius

447
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Speaker 1: Jackson or Trey Williams, but he's their draft pick. He's

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Speaker 1: a highly talented kid coming from a big time program,

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Speaker 1: and they won him on the team. And again, forget

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Speaker 1: the fact that he had a twenty eight yard run.

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Speaker 1: He was the first running back end of the game,

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Speaker 1: after the starter. He got the majority of the work

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Speaker 1: with the better players, and he was all over special teams.

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Speaker 1: They were using him as a wing or he was

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Speaker 1: on punt team. I believe he was on kick team.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right, and that's what we've been saying,

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Speaker 1: is he needs to find that role if he's going

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Speaker 1: to make the team. While they're doing everything in their

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Speaker 1: power to help him find that role. And I just

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Speaker 1: I think they would prefer that he win that job,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's going to and not like it's

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Speaker 1: being handed to him. He's played well, he's played well

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Speaker 1: out here, he looked good in the game, and I

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Speaker 1: just I would bet on him making the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: Talk about a guy like Trey Williams who offers you

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Speaker 1: a little something, then maybe what you have in both

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Speaker 1: Scarborough what you would have in Darius Jackson as it

468
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Speaker 1: as a little bit of a quick of the equation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they cut him during training camp and then

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Speaker 1: sign him back up the next day. So a guy

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Speaker 1: that you do that kind of move shows you that

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Speaker 1: you're not that interested. And I get that. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: as just people observing the team, do you think there

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Speaker 1: should be a role for a guy like him because

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Speaker 1: he presents a different kind of back than maybe the

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Speaker 1: backs that you have pretty good not for him. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a camp body, Uh for sure. I think

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Speaker 1: Darius Jackson's better than him, and he played he played more. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think that they just have they have. UM. You

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Speaker 1: want a linebacker to play special teams. Linebackers are great

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Speaker 1: on special teams because they're typically pretty fast, and they're

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Speaker 1: big and they're strong. And both Scarborough can give you

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Speaker 1: a linebacker to play special teams, but he's he's your

484
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Speaker 1: third running back. That's that's the ideal situation there is

485
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Speaker 1: how many third running backs are actually give you that

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Speaker 1: type of bodies size for a a special teams guy.

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Speaker 1: So he's got to learn how to do it. It's

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Speaker 1: not just you know, it's not something you could just

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Speaker 1: pick up. But I think it was a good start.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to the wide receiver position again.

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Speaker 1: You got guys that you know we're gonna make this

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Speaker 1: team Cole Beasley, Terrence Williams, and hearns Um, but you

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Speaker 1: also had other guys. Tavon Austin will make the team.

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Speaker 1: But he played in the game and played pretty well. Nick,

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Speaker 1: I know you wrote in your five things to watch.

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Speaker 1: They actually saw him catch some passes going down to

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Speaker 1: field a little bit, not eat down the field, but

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Speaker 1: just out into the field right enough, just enough to

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Speaker 1: make sure comparing him to Lucky Whitehead, right, he's actually

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Speaker 1: doing things on this side of the line of scrimmage,

501
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Speaker 1: which is good because when he goes laterally, it'll only

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Speaker 1: make it a little bit more effective. Both of his

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Speaker 1: receptions were I would say, at least eight yards down

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Speaker 1: the field, if not more. Twelve and thirteen there was

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Speaker 1: two for twenty five. Third team is pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not bad. And like you said, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a great point you made that if you get

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Speaker 1: him up the field some, then at least the defense

509
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Speaker 1: has to respect the fact that he's not just in

510
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Speaker 1: there to get to get the sweep, the reverse or

511
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Speaker 1: whatever they're going to use him in the backfield to do.

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Speaker 1: He's actually can run a route and actually catch some

513
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Speaker 1: passes for your defenses have to respect him in that way,

514
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Speaker 1: and they can't just put a linebacker on him. They

515
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Speaker 1: gotta put somebody to keep up with his speed, which

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Speaker 1: I apologize. I don't know who put this on Twitter,

517
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: but you know there's a whole community of people who

518
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Speaker 1: break down games of every team, but obviously the Cowboys too.

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Speaker 1: And I think Rod Smith's long run on the first drive,

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Speaker 1: Tavon motioned out and you know it was a little fake.

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Speaker 1: You know exactly what we talk about, and it just

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Speaker 1: shows you what he can do for a run game,

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Speaker 1: even if he's not getting the ball. Because San Francisco's

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Speaker 1: left end bid on it like nobody's business and just

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Speaker 1: took himself out of the play immediately, and it's just

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Speaker 1: little stuff like that. I think Rod got something like

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Speaker 1: fourteen yards on the carry, and that's what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: His speed scares people and it can do things for

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Speaker 1: your run game. And when they do that, they got

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Speaker 1: three options really to run the ball at any given play.

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Speaker 1: If they move him in motion like that, they've got

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Speaker 1: Zeke or whoever the tailback is, they got him, and

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Speaker 1: they also got Prescott, So defenses have to be aware

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Speaker 1: there are three different ways and three different guys that

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Speaker 1: can get the ball and those kinds of running plays.

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Speaker 1: That just diversifies. You give Zeke one extra guy the

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Speaker 1: play that may be the difference between a four or

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Speaker 1: five yard run and him taking it to the house.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's that's huge for the Cowboys. Talk

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Speaker 1: about Lance Lenore. He had a touchdown in the game,

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Speaker 1: a really nice nice route. Is stat line didn't look great,

542
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Speaker 1: but to be honest with I don't know that it

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Speaker 1: needed to. After what you've seen out here in practice

544
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Speaker 1: and then catching the touchdown pass. Do you think he's

545
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Speaker 1: kind of secured himself a spot there is a six

546
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Speaker 1: person Do you think maybe he's pushing Noah Brown out

547
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Speaker 1: or do you think the Cowboys may have to consider

548
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: the possibility of going seven at wide receiver? Did see

549
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: Noah Brown back in practice? It's funny how that works. Um,

550
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Speaker 1: he didn't. He did not make the trip. He was

551
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: banged up a little bit. But yeah he's back out there. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know he gives you something that Lenora doesn't. Um.

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Speaker 1: And from a blocking standpoint, I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: I think something different is going to shake out. I

555
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Speaker 1: really do. I don't know what. But you said you're

556
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Speaker 1: three locks, and I don't even know if I like

557
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Speaker 1: all three of them as as locks on the team.

558
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: I just which one which would do? I don't want

559
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Speaker 1: to know what's going on with Cole Beasley. I mean,

560
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: he has the groin injury, right, didn't make the trip.

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Speaker 1: That's the day of rest. Then the next day, which

562
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Speaker 1: the players have off, that's the second day. Then yesterday

563
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Speaker 1: he wasn't out here doing anything either, not even rehab

564
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Speaker 1: or any kind of thing. So I don't know what

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Speaker 1: is going on with that. Cole is making this team.

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Speaker 1: Why wasn't he at the game. Why wasn't he at

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Speaker 1: the game? If if he's got an injury. No, no no,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't have an injury. Sore. He was sore.

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Speaker 1: He was sore. That's what the strength coach that I

570
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: talked to said, he was sore. Um, but if you're sore,

571
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: you could make a forty five minute trip on flight

572
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Speaker 1: and you can sit there and you could be on

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Speaker 1: the sideline with sunflower scenes. It helped these young receivers

574
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Speaker 1: in different group and walker, you know, and and kind

575
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Speaker 1: of show the ropes a little bit. That's what Sean

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Speaker 1: Lee is, what Zeke did. That's what the guys are

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Speaker 1: doing that they're not playing. I just don't understand why

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Speaker 1: you're not in the game. Well, if if you're if

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Speaker 1: if it's soreness that keeps you out, which I assume

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Speaker 1: that means it's not your typical soreness, probably some different

581
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Speaker 1: kind of soreness. Maybe there was treatment back here that

582
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Speaker 1: he was able to receive that he didn't he wouldn't

583
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Speaker 1: have been able to receive there. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't either, I just I don't. I think it's a

585
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: good question. What do you think there's more going on? Probably? Yeah, yeah,

586
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: I think so. I know his agent was here a

587
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Or a week ago. Um, I think

588
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: there's been discussions of a contract, but I I don't know.

589
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: I just it's just it's just weird that he's not

590
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: doing that whole lot we see Sean Lee's not not

591
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: playing for a certain reason, but he's still out there

592
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: doing certain things. I think that there's just more to it.

593
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: There's gotta be, there's gotta be. He's just like Rico

594
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: last year tied him. He's just gotta be more to

595
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: it than just that. We will definitely keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on that. I mean, it's I mean yeah, which I

597
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: mean he did, he did a little get a little

598
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Speaker 1: bit of rehab yesterday and he was at practice. Um

599
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: it's one of those things too much. No, No, I

600
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: mean no, he wasn't padded up or anything. It's just

601
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Speaker 1: you know, I know we have another week left in Oxnard,

602
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: but like I said, it's it's really about two practices.

603
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: So I wonder, I wonder what this week is going

604
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: to look like for him and for a lot of

605
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: other guys, because if he's not practicing yesterday, I don't know,

606
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: but I won't be surprised if he doesn't practice till

607
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: we go back. Is basically what I'm saying right, and

608
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Speaker 1: and that didn't really I know, you guys are talking

609
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Speaker 1: about him not travel toever. That doesn't really raised rid

610
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: flat for me so much, just because looking at how

611
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: this coaching staff treats their veteran players. They give them,

612
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: they try to take care of them during training camp

613
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I mean, they do a lot of

614
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Speaker 1: veteran days. They you know, they'll give guys off, They'll

615
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: have guys just not doing certain things, and then they

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Speaker 1: come back and it's not like they were really injured

617
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Speaker 1: as much as it was just that he wanted to

618
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: there was a little something and they were like, let's

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Speaker 1: just be cautious and let's just sit them. Um. And

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Speaker 1: the hope I assume is that they want to get

621
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Speaker 1: to the season and have a full cast of players

622
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Speaker 1: rather than have a guy that's still kind of gimpy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. For Jason Garrett has issued

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Speaker 1: fourteen players in his leadership counsel. It's a lot of players.

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00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: And when you when you consider forty five of them

626
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: are going to be in uniform, so one out of

627
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Speaker 1: every three, would you think Cole Beasley's in the fourteen? Um?

628
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's been here eighties, played eighty six games.

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Speaker 1: It's like the fourth most on the team. Not necessarily

630
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: because it's all about I think in that in that respect,

631
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: it a lot of times to do with your leadership capabilities,

632
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: because we've seen other guys that were that have been

633
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: here for a while. That des wasn't on that council.

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00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Was he? I know he wasn't one of the captains,

635
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: but was he fourteen players? I mean that that's like

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Speaker 1: one from every position, and a little bit more. I mean,

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00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: I can't imagine him not being in there. And if

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00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: he's not out of fourteen players, and that that brings

639
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: another red flag for me. That's even more I under

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Speaker 1: saying I'm sure he is. I'm sure he's one of

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Speaker 1: the guys. If he's one of the guys, then I

642
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: would think for the first preseason game, this is a

643
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: changing of the guard. This is a new team. There's

644
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: especially on offense in the passing game, there's no desk,

645
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: there's no witting you're a part of this thing. And

646
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting that he wasn't. Really

647
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: you think he's a leader of that group. It's perceived

648
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: by the players, by the other receivers in every room.

649
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Speaker 1: Who do you think the leaders anymore? Who do you

650
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: think as a leader in that room? I don't have

651
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Speaker 1: the slightest idea. Tamon Austin has been the more, the

652
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: most vocal one. Yeah, he's the most experienced one, right

653
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: and Terrence Ye, people want to write off Terrence's experience.

654
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: He's been a starter in the NFL for six years,

655
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: five years now true played you know, three four playoff games.

656
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Nice plays for this team. I think son Jay Law

657
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: is the leader of that group. That's just the way

658
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: it is. He's the position coach and right now, until

659
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: somebody kind of emerges, it's hard for Tavon Austin as

660
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Speaker 1: a new player to say I'm the leader. It's hard

661
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: for Alan Hearns to do it. It's hard for Terrence

662
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Speaker 1: Williams with the offseason that he had, It's it's hard

663
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Speaker 1: for him to be the leader. And it's hard for

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley to be the leader too. He's had thirty

665
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: nine catches last year. So no, it's it's there for

666
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Speaker 1: the taking if somebody wants to step up and have it.

667
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Which to get back to your original question, I'm I

668
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: have a better idea about damn near every position on

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Speaker 1: this team than I did when we got here, you know,

670
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: like tight end, you know, defensive line, linebacker, blah blah,

671
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: running back. I don't know. I don't have a slightly

672
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: better idea what to think about these receivers. You would think,

673
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: based on his performance that Lance Lanor has carved out

674
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Speaker 1: a roster spot, but that seems hard to just acknowledge

675
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: three weeks before roster cuts, because honestly, he's played great.

676
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish that, but he feels redundant

677
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: to me in terms of his skill set, you know,

678
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: like Michael Gallup, Lance Lenore, Terrence Williams. They all seem

679
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: kind of similar. Uh. And that's you know, I've always

680
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: leaned toward Noah Brown because he's got a body type

681
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: and a skill set that nobody else has. But he's

682
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: not practicing. Uh And so maybe they keep seven receivers.

683
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a better idea of

684
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: what to expect than did Thompson him. He's been great

685
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: in the times that he's been practicing, but he's been

686
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, nursing an achilles strain recently. He's tight with

687
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Sanjay Law. They were in Buffalo together. That's something I

688
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: think you have to consider. Again, he's got a skill

689
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: set that the other guys don't because he is lightning fast.

690
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: And the special team's coach said to me, Keith the

691
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: Quinn said that when they get to the season, Tavan

692
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: will be the punt returner and Deonte will be the

693
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Speaker 1: kick returner. So that just kind of there's a spot. Well, okay,

694
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I've got Deante's making it, you know, I mean just now.

695
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: Obviously everything's subject to change. Yeah, but a special team

696
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: in a lot of instances, the special team guy coach

697
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: will get what's kind of left like they don't get

698
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: they don't get the same yeah, you know, because they're

699
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: looking at the positions. Now, of course it factors in,

700
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I've heard a

701
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: lot of special teams coaches talk about it. From the standpoint,

702
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: you kind of get what you get a little bit. Yeah,

703
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: you might get yourself a one or two guys that

704
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: you say that's my guy, but you get what you

705
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: get the rest of the way. Well, that'll be a change.

706
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Because rich Vsaccia used to get what he wanted like

707
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: all across all balls. That might be why he's not here. Anybody.

708
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't, but I don't know that's what they teach

709
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: him in daycare and stuff. Hell yeah, you know, I've

710
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: not heard it. Alan. I mean it's weird because again,

711
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: like the I mean, to some degree, the wide receiver

712
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: depth chart is set because like Hearns is making the team,

713
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: Tavon's making the team, Cole's making the team. I think

714
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Terrence is a damn near lock. And obviously your draft

715
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: pick gallup. Yeah, so that leaves one, maybe two spots.

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Speaker 1: But I don't Yeah, like I would put Lance Lenor

717
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: on the team today. But again, and it's there's a

718
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of time and a lot of stuff that has

719
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: to happen still, and the fact of the matter is

720
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: if Lancelors on this team, it won't be because he

721
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: can catch passes. It will be because he can play

722
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, and so we need to see more

723
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: of that. I guess that's the other to be able

724
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: to determine whether he's gonna make the team. He'd be

725
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: if you carry if you carry seven receivers, one of

726
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: them or maybe even two of them is gonna not

727
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: even dress every week, which like that's a waste. So

728
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it. And my

729
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: assumption is for a guy like Lance Lenor, I don't

730
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: think you're worried as much that you put him out

731
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: there that he's gonna be snaps up really quickly, maybe

732
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: them down. I'm thinking probably twenty camps, if not more.

733
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Speaker 1: They got a guy like that that they're like, man,

734
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: this receiver's looking really good when you know, yeah, like

735
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Eric Rodgers comes to mind, and A. J. Jenkins flashed

736
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: for a week or two a couple of years ago,

737
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: but and that was I talked to Lance about that

738
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: after the game. I was like, it's big for you

739
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: to take this into a game because we saw it

740
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: at camp all last year. So I mean, if he

741
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: keeps doing that in games, I think it'll make a

742
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: difference for him. And I think there's something that you

743
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: need to factor in. Um, you know, Lance Lenor was

744
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: here last year, he'll be you know, he'll be around

745
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: probably this year. I don't know if they want to

746
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: cut ties with him because he started thinking about next year.

747
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Even though you know, most the GMS and and Will

748
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: McClay and all that everyone's focused on right now. But

749
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams may not be on this roster next year.

750
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Colbezi's in the last year of his deal, Tavon Austin's

751
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: in last year of his deal. Dontay Thompson could not

752
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: be here as well. Hearns will probably be here even

753
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: though he signed a two year deal. Gallop for sure.

754
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: So I mean, like, let's say that that that you

755
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: you let go of of of him and Lenore signs

756
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: with someone else, He goes to the Bears and does

757
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: great there, and then all of a sudden, you're here

758
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: next year and you're like, man, we could have had him,

759
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: but we kept him for these guys who are not

760
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: even here anymore. So you do need to kind of

761
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: think about that and go, all right, well, let's let's

762
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: let's find a way maybe to go heavy at receiver

763
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: this year, because it's gonna shake out somehow this year

764
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: and definitely next year we're gonna be talking a lot

765
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: about receivers on the Draft show in twenty nineteen. I

766
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: bet absolutely they're remaking that position. Let's talk a little

767
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: bit about the offensive line. They look dominant as always.

768
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: There was one hiccup though. Connor Williams, my guy from Texas,

769
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: had a moment gave up a sack. Were you at all.

770
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: I know, he's had a pretty good camp out here

771
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: where you'd all concerned about seeing that happen in that

772
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: game because he will be the I mean, obviously he's

773
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: the young guy on that offensive line, and from that standpoint,

774
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even want, I don't even want to call

775
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: him a weak link, but he is. Of all the

776
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: guys there, he's the guy that probably is the lesser

777
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: at this point with his inexperience. Are you'd all concerned

778
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: about going into the season with him at guard after

779
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: that that sat But if you think about it from

780
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: the standpoint of, all right, well, anybody any position, say,

781
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: all right, he's played tackle for in college for three

782
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: years and then he's gonna and play guard, and man,

783
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the first stat first drive at guard, he gave up

784
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: a sack. You know, I don't know if that's a

785
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: bad thing. Let's let's see how he bounces back. I mean,

786
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: you would kind of expect it. You would be more

787
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: surprised if you're like, he moved into this position and

788
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: it was just rock steady Martin. He showed you in

789
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: the same game he was able to come back again.

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00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: That's some Skip Bayless stuff right there. Derek, like to be.

791
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I'm not concerned. Really yeah, no, he

792
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: asked the question, and you let people talk about I

793
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: got I got out of the uber. I got out

794
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,960
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795
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,680
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796
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: of the buildings big facade is DeForest Buckner doing this.

797
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: He's like big enough deal that they put him on

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00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: the facade of their stadium. And on the third snap

799
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: of the game, he beat a rookie guard and it

800
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: was he got panted. Don't get me wrong, Connor Williams

801
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: got beat badly. I thought he bounced back fine. And no,

802
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about it at all. He he he

803
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: smacked the wrap out of Shawn Lee out here, like

804
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: welcome back to the field, Sean, Well, hey, you're back

805
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: in practice. Smack Connor Williams right in his face. Thought

806
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: it was great. I'm not worried about him. All right,

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00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
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Speaker 1: Back to the Break, Welcome back. It is the final

855
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Speaker 1: segment of The Break Live from Oxnard, California. It is

856
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: our final week of training camp. Man, it's time to

857
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: go home. Let's talk some more. We're gonna get some

858
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: more back into the game. Talk about the defense. We

859
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: want to hit the linebackers and the defensive backs particularly. Um.

860
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: But before we do that, Dave take it away. Yeah.

861
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: I got up this morning and hey, look you get

862
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: to day twenty of training camp. It's it's rough out there.

863
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't know about y'all. My hotel

864
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: room looks like a bomb hit it. It's not great.

865
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Um but but yeah, but I'll have your made with you.

866
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: Went over to the equipment room and I was like,

867
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: I need I need my loop if I need my

868
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: fresh cycle because I'm down to the bare bones. And

869
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: I had to go get my Tommy John because it's

870
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: a Sunday. You want to work on a Sunday I

871
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: needed to be in the right frame of mind when

872
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: got my Tommy John. It's made a difference. It's made

873
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: a huge difference. Like my mood immediately elevated. I was like,

874
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 1: thank God, I'm not wearing like some cotton, uncomfortable crap.

875
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: Got the good stuff. So I'm ready to smile on

876
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: your face. I really like. I was like, ooh, there

877
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: we go. We're we're back at the top. You know

878
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: how good it feels to be at the top of

879
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the laundry rotation? Yes, that is we're wearing Tommy John.

880
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Feels like all the time. I like the sound effects

881
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: on the show today. Amber started with uh and then

882
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: you hit the whooo. Right, We've got some good sound

883
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Speaker 1: effects working today. All right, let's let's before we get

884
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: back into the game, um and talk about the defense.

885
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: Nick I did one to take some time for those

886
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 1: of you who did not see our documented our first

887
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: deep blue of the season this last week, the one

888
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: we did on Parcels. First of all, you need to

889
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: go see it. You've been living in a cave. You

890
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: need to go see it. It's really really good. Shot

891
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: to Rob Phillips and Kent Garrison. They did a phenomenal

892
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: job putting that thing together. But we're gonna follow that

893
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: up this week with an equally phenomenal documentary that Nick

894
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: worked on. Nick and our one of our editors, Chris Beam.

895
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: It's called Cold Shoulder and Nick, tell us what it's about.

896
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna roll it out this windsay, but tell us

897
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: what it's about. Yeah, we'll see how how if it's

898
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: equally as good as that one. That's about the best

899
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: one I've ever seen, so in the parcels one. Um,

900
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: but um, we're excited about it. At the Cold Shoulder,

901
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: I've been working on him for a while, especially here

902
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: at camp. Everyone around me knows how much we've been

903
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: working about on that one. Uh. Emmett Smith twenty five

904
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: years ago, the spraying shoulder, separated shoulder, broken shoulder, shoulder

905
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: fell off, whatever you want to say and whatever has

906
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: been said about it. Um, it was a very memorable

907
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: game against the Giants, and it was it was just

908
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: one of those situations, one of those moments that it

909
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: really changed the course of the dynasty. Um, if they

910
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: don't win that game, then they probably don't, you know,

911
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: win three Super Bowls out of four years. So it

912
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: all came out of that game, that that moment yea

913
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see

914
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: how if we can get it up there on Wednesday.

915
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: We'll see if we can get everybody's attention from the

916
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: internet and watch it. I think I think it could

917
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: be pretty good. Yeah, I'm excited about it. There's a

918
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: trailer that will be coming out tomorrow that we'll put

919
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: on social media, so you guys to be able to

920
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: check that out and I'll learn more about the documentary,

921
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: and then again again on Wednesday, we'll actually run it

922
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: live the same way we did this last week. You'll

923
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: be able to watch it on all our platforms, from

924
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Connected TV to our mobile app, to Dallas Cowboys dot com,

925
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: to Facebook, to Twitter and Periscope everywhere. We'll have it

926
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: out there for you guys to be able to check

927
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: it out and watch our second installment of Deep Blue

928
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: for this twenty eighteen preseason. All right, so let's get

929
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: back into the recap of the game. I want to

930
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: talk about the linebackers Joe Thomas and Jalen Smith I

931
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: thought were really good and if I had to identify

932
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: one position on the entire Hire team that I was

933
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: most excited about how they performed. It would be those

934
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: two guys mainly because they were flying around to the

935
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: ball and it looked like that's the kind of linebackers

936
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: you want to have in this defense. What did you

937
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: guys see from particularly the linebackers and those two or

938
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: even some younger guys that played later in the game,

939
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: what do you see from the linebacker position? I thought

940
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: they looked I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna

941
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: echo you, but I thought they looked incredible. Joe Thomas

942
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: is such a sneaky good signing like he can play Mike,

943
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: he can play Will, he had an interception, he was

944
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: active in the run game, and then obviously Jalen, I

945
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: mean he would we know he can play forward towards

946
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He did it again on Thursday night.

947
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: And then just like he carried Cole Beasley a couple

948
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: weeks ago or a week ago, whatever he carried I

949
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: think it was George Kittle San Francisco's tight end, like

950
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty yards downfield, covered a steam route flawlessly.

951
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: He looks fantastic. And one thing that scares me is

952
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: we know he's got that potential. The problem with Jalen

953
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: was always playing fifty sixty snaps and how does he

954
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: hold up over time? Probably not going to see that

955
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: in the preseason. But the counter to that is that

956
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: now you have Joe Thomas and Laton vander Esh to

957
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: help ease that load. So maybe you can limit him

958
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: to twenty five thirty snaps a game and let him

959
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: play like that the whole time. I thought Damien Wilson

960
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: looked pretty active on a couple of plays as well,

961
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 1: so they had a lot of options. There's some guys

962
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: flying around the ball there. It's gonna be tough for

963
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: one of those young linebackers to make it because they

964
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: seem pretty heavy right now. Even when you're talking about potential,

965
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the other day, potential trades,

966
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: if you were going to do that, even if you

967
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Speaker 1: want to get into the player part of it, linebacker

968
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: might be a spot where you can look into something

969
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: like that. I don't really know how the younger guys

970
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: are looking though, like like rookie free agents. I don't

971
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: think there's any of those guys pushing, which sort of related.

972
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: Chris Covington was back at practice yesterday. He mean, he's

973
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: been missing for forever. It feels like, yeah, this, uh,

974
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: that's something to look for in the next couple of games.

975
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: I didn't I don't remember Justin march Lillard much in

976
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: the game, but he's been great out here. It's flipped

977
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: over the pile at the end of the game. It

978
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: was kind of having fun over there. Yeah, this is it.

979
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: If I asked him about that, he said, I was

980
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: just I wanted to like do something regular season last year.

981
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: It's just get on tape like something. This is this

982
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: is It's a stretch obviously, we know that. But if

983
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, this has got to be one of the

984
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: deepest units on the Cowboys roster. Which is crazy to

985
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: say out loud, but it looks it looks really promising

986
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: and you could do that, but I wouldn't want to

987
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling you're gonna need them all

988
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: before it's all said and done. I think it kind

989
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: of it really makes sense. I mean, yes, Sean Lee

990
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: has been here a long time and he was the

991
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: second round pick, but from a long time ago, but

992
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: even from the last few years. You know, you have

993
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick in in Damien Wilson here. Before that,

994
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: you had Hitchens, and then you had a Smith as

995
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: a second round pick, Layton van Rish is a first

996
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: round pick. I mean, it kind of would make sense

997
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: that you do have some depth. I just you know,

998
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: my memory of covering the Cowboys is like the stuff

999
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: that they've thrown out here in recent years, like Jasper Brinkley,

1000
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: Keith Rivers bringing in Rolando McClean on a Hail Mary

1001
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: in July, which like it worked out for a year,

1002
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: but still you're just like, oh my god, Like Keith Rivers,

1003
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't even remember that was his name, right? That

1004
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: maybe was that the guy that came from Cincinnati. He

1005
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: was a USC linebacker, play with Mala Lugay. He was

1006
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: here for a hot second. Jasper Brinkley was not here

1007
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: very much. Jasper Brinkley was like a three million dollar

1008
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: free agent who didn't even initially make the team. Like

1009
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: at roster cut, they're like, that's it's it's Andrew Gashcar.

1010
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: It's been a graveyard of power. And now you've got

1011
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: three super freaks and then Joe Thomas, who I think

1012
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: is super freaks. I mean, I'm not saying we don't

1013
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: know what Jalen and Layton can become. They are athletics. Yeah, um,

1014
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: and then Joe Thomas looks like he could be a

1015
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: really sneaky quality signing. So there's a lot to feel

1016
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: good about what you guys see from Laton Vanderesh in

1017
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: this game. Obviously the rookie and the highly touted rookie.

1018
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: What did you see in in this preseason game? I

1019
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: mean I didn't see a lot of great stuff. I

1020
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: was seeming bad. I mean, that was him that almost

1021
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: had that interception on the sideline. It wasn't as close

1022
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: in retrospect as it looked in real time, but get

1023
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: that part of the play, and it was a penalty

1024
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: on them anyways for holding I think Anthony Brown, but

1025
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite players of the game.

1026
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: Then you guys were, I guess both sitting next to

1027
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: me at the game. But I thought that was the

1028
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: best individual play that I saw was from Doeorg's Armstrong

1029
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: on that particular play that just that didn't look like

1030
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: a rookie in his first game. That a guy pushing

1031
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: the pile, showing that kind of strength, going to the ground,

1032
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: getting up off the ground, realizing the play was still going,

1033
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: finding the quarterback rushing him out of the podcast, I

1034
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: thought that was that was seriously was the was the

1035
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: best most individual the best play that I saw the game.

1036
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: He looked really good. And I actually talked to him

1037
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: about it yesterday and he was like, yeah, if I

1038
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: had done this better, I would have just gotten a

1039
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: sack instead of that. And I was like, oh, he's

1040
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: got Marinelli in him, then you you were fine? Yeah,

1041
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: all the you know, I thought a few of the

1042
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: pass rushers had really nice nights individually. Liked Law looked

1043
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: great for the hot minute he was in there. Taco

1044
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: had two or three pressures in a you know, a

1045
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: quarter and a half. Uh, Dorian's Armstrong looked great. Charles

1046
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: Tapper had a strip in a recovery, and then all

1047
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: of them were like, well, we didn't get we didn't

1048
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: get a sack. So Marinelli's pissed about. Sounds good. Sounds

1049
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: good like Woods. That guy in the field, big guy

1050
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: an twine Wood. He gets up the field. Him and

1051
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: do Law ran like a stunt together, and I mean

1052
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: it was just like, oh yeah, But I actually thought

1053
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Brian Price played well too, So I mean you start

1054
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: looking at that, I'm getting a T shirt. I know

1055
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm a fan, but but he I thought he played well.

1056
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: I thought he played well, and I think, you know,

1057
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: that was one of the positions. I had some people

1058
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: to ask me this last week when I got away

1059
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: from here. They were like, so, what are you what

1060
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: are you thinking so far? What are you seeing? I'm like,

1061
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: they were like, if there's one position that you're most

1062
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: concerned about, what would it be. I said, going to camp,

1063
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: it was definitely defensive tackle. But there have been a

1064
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: couple of guys that have kind of emerged that make

1065
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: you feel a little better. Now. You don't know what

1066
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna get when the season gets here, but I

1067
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: do feel a little better with Woodsy as Niche Causin

1068
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: and uh And and with Brian Price. I think they

1069
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: are I think they are pretty good defensive tackles, and

1070
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: uh And may give you a little bit of something

1071
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: until you get Malie Collins back, and maybe if you

1072
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: do ever get David Irving back. Until you get David

1073
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: Irving back, they're just getting great on the job training.

1074
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're going up against I mean, Antoine woods

1075
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: Is going up against Zach Martin and Travis Frederick and

1076
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, and you know, I mean that's that's a

1077
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: that's a really good test right there. You could you

1078
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: start getting a little bit better every day, you win

1079
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: some battles here, or you now you now you you

1080
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: you hit a center in the face, I mean like

1081
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: do whatever you gotta and then all of a sudden,

1082
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: now you get to the game and you're like, don't, don't,

1083
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: don't hit centers in the face. I think it showed

1084
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: the whole team a little bit that hey, this guy

1085
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: right here, I mean, he's he's he means business. He's

1086
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: not he's not intimidated by anybody. He's not scared of

1087
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: the situation. And when you get to San Francisco and

1088
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: you get to the next camp in Cincinnati, and like,

1089
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: the center has done as good as the guy I've

1090
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: been facing all camps. So um, that's that's a start.

1091
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: There's always three or four guys right now. He's one

1092
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: of them that that's making that push. All right. So

1093
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: we have to now talk about the defensive backs, which overall,

1094
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: I think it was just like every other position. I

1095
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: thought there was some really good things that you noticed.

1096
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: There were some things that weren't so great. Let's talk

1097
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: particularly about Anthony Brown. He gave up a couple of

1098
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: plays had a big PI Like what did you think

1099
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: of Anthony Bown Brown's play there? As you're basically your

1100
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: third cornerback in the slot. It was kind of like

1101
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: the opposite of Lance Lenora, like he Lance Lenora carried

1102
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: his camp into the game. Anthony Brown And for all

1103
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: the people that want to see Jordan Lewis, he has

1104
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: not been terrible this camp, and he was especially practicing

1105
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: really well heading into the game, and it just didn't

1106
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: seem like it carried over. He had the bad penalty,

1107
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: he gave up two or three receptions. I mean, it

1108
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: wasn't like a staggering level of bad, but it was

1109
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: certainly a low light among the starter caliber players. Um

1110
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: just yeah, kind of forget about, you know, one thing

1111
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: to kind of point out there. I mean, I was

1112
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: all three of the of San Francisco's touchdowns I believe

1113
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: happened at the very end of the half or end

1114
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: the game. We were down the field for all of them.

1115
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: So I think every every touchdown that was scored was

1116
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: in a two minute drill. Uh for the for the

1117
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, that's not really a good thing. It's

1118
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: not an excuse, of course, it's just that I wonder

1119
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: in a setting like that, and they they go over

1120
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: situational football a lot, but I wonder if that's where

1121
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: where some of the breakdowns were. Communication while was to

1122
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: give different guys in the game, because you know, when

1123
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: they were playing bass defense, it was pretty standard. They

1124
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: did a good job, but when they went to two minute,

1125
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: that's where they see a lot of the breakdown. So

1126
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: maybe applaud San Francisco for doing a good job there,

1127
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: but I think I think the Cowboys struggled on all ends.

1128
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: They're just trying to get get situated there in a

1129
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: two minutes and I guess it didn't lead to do

1130
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: a touchdown, but um Marquest and Huff and Jordan Lewis

1131
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: gave up the big gainer right after halftime. It was

1132
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: it led to a field goal, right, you guys getting

1133
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: some chicken strips in there or something. It was not

1134
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: It was not pretty in the slightest Jordan, Jordan gave

1135
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: up a step and I think Huff didn't realize he had,

1136
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, he was supposed to be helping over the

1137
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: top and just it was I thought Byron Jones looked

1138
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: nice and the second like when the first team pass

1139
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: Rush was out there. I thought the secondary looked fine,

1140
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: but Cheeto gave up a couple of completions. Nothing drastic,

1141
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: but you know, you just we you know, as my

1142
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: mention said, like, we've been touting these guys for two

1143
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: weeks and they didn't really look amazing out there. So

1144
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: it's something to watch. That's what the next two games

1145
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: are for. I assume they're not going to play in

1146
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: the fourth one, at least not the big guys. So

1147
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: did anything change in your opinions about Jordan Lewis. Obviously

1148
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: a lot of fans want to see him out there

1149
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: because he was a draft pick a couple of years ago.

1150
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: They feel like, because of that, he probably is your

1151
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: third best corner, but he's not out there because Anthony

1152
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: Brown is your slot corner. Do you think that at

1153
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: some point, you know, he's gonna be able to really

1154
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: push for that job, But do you think this really

1155
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: is about Anthony Brown and then believing in the fact

1156
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: that Anthony Brown's your third best corner, at least the

1157
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: best in the slot. I could see Jordan Lewis taking

1158
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: that spot this week. You know, that's this kind of

1159
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: what training camps about, preseason games about Anthony Brown gave

1160
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: you an opportunity. He didn't didn't have your best moment.

1161
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see maybe he bounces back this week.

1162
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: Maybe they moved Jordan Lewis into that spot. You know,

1163
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of what competition is all about. It's fitting timing.

1164
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Because Jordan Lewis ended practice last night with an interception,

1165
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: but it was as a member of the second team defense.

1166
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know. And like, I mean, Jordan hasn't

1167
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: been bad, but it's not like he's just you know,

1168
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: just to reckon the league out here to the point

1169
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: where I can definitively say, like, yeah, he needs to

1170
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: be starting like he's been all right. He set his

1171
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: ups and his downs just like Anthony. That's it's something

1172
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: to watch, especially in the dress rehearsal game, which is

1173
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: the you know, the one that most nearly mimics a

1174
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: regular season game. I'll be interested to see what that

1175
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: looks like. Keep an eye on it. But honestly, I

1176
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: don't know how to feel. Right from what we've seen

1177
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: so far, I would say they're pretty close to, you know,

1178
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: level wise, based on every practice that we've seen. I mean,

1179
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: it's not that Jordan has been oh, this much greater

1180
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: than Anthony Brown, and neither has Anthony Brown, you know,

1181
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. And Anthony Brown in the past,

1182
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: like even last year. I mean, he's the guy that

1183
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: you keep thinking he has this kind of potential and

1184
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: then he gets in the game and it doesn't really

1185
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't really perform to that level that you're expecting.

1186
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: And we saw that once again in this preseason game. Yep,

1187
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: real quick before we end the show. We got it

1188
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: all shot that Dan Bailey didn't kick in this game, yes,

1189
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: which I mean it goes to show you that the

1190
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: shocked the coaching staff is not as concerned about Dan

1191
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: Bailey as as others are, which hey, good vote of confidence,

1192
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: and maybe they are. That's why didn't kick. I was

1193
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, is it to flip? Well, to flip it?

1194
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: And that's like, well, why why wreck is confidence? If? Right? Well,

1195
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: come on, man, seriously, I don't know. I guess that

1196
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: that was really that was rhetorical. It wasn't directed at

1197
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: you like we're worried about shattering the Pro Bowl kickers

1198
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: confidence by making him kick in the preseason opener, Like

1199
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: that's not a good if that's why they didn't do it.

1200
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: I am terrified. I hope that's not the case. Um,

1201
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 1: but it's conceivable that he's He's an eight year veteran,

1202
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: He's made a lot of kicks. If they're not worried

1203
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: about him and they don't want him to put the

1204
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: strain on his body, fine, If that's fine. If they

1205
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: held him out because they're worried about hurting his confidence

1206
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, then that sounds like trouble to me.

1207
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know that that's the case. This will

1208
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: be Uh, this will be interesting. I'm interested to see

1209
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: how much they'll use him in some of the other

1210
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: preseason games that are followed that that will follow, because

1211
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: I personally would like to see him kick the entire preseason.

1212
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: But that's a decision they make based on all things

1213
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: they know. You know. It went back and looked at

1214
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: his stats from last year when he came back from

1215
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: the injury. He missed four field goals and two extra points.

1216
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: The weird part about that is is the two extra points,

1217
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: they're both what are those the thirty four yards? Yeah?

1218
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: And then the miss one miss field goal in Philadelphia

1219
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: was like twenty one yards. I mean it was really

1220
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: was at the very end of the game. Um. The

1221
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: other three misses in that span are all fifty yards

1222
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: or more so, I mean the four field goal misses.

1223
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: There was a really bad one in Philly. Uh, and

1224
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: then there was They're all fifty two or not. Gimmes, right,

1225
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: not gimmes at all. I mean you kind of just

1226
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: expect more out of him. Um, that's why it's kind

1227
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: of surprising. But it's not like he was you know,

1228
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: I can't take that bay. He missed two extra points

1229
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: in this short one. So yeah, out of those seven

1230
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: six misses, three of them the miss on the goal

1231
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: line at the end of the Philly game was just

1232
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: like the perfect punctuation mark on the crap sandwich that

1233
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: was last year. I just remember. I think I laughed, like, okay,

1234
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: like when it happened. I was just like, that is

1235
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: the perfect way to end this season. Yeah. And I

1236
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: think what's also kind of just a little bit concerning

1237
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: is that we've seen him missing that thirty to forty

1238
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: range out here several times in a row too, And

1239
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the part you kind of just keeping

1240
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: your eye on it. I'm not worried about him with

1241
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: the fifty and over, because like, that's a crapshoot unless

1242
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: you have, I mean, what he's been automatic before. But

1243
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't get mad at kickers for missing

1244
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: from fifty five. But I would love to see him

1245
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: attempt four or five field goals from forty and forty

1246
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: five and in just to I mean, just to see

1247
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I think what sucks is that he has been so

1248
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: automatic and you want to have that again. And if

1249
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: he misses kicks to the point where you feel like

1250
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: you have to make a change, You're not gonna go

1251
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: get what Dan Bailey was before. You're gonna go get

1252
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: what he is right now. You're just gonna get a

1253
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: different guy with a different set of confidence. And he

1254
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: comes in, it's gonna be the same. He's still gonna

1255
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, a seventy kicker. So you're not

1256
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna go get that ninety. You gotta, I mean, those

1257
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: guys don't kind of frustrating about it. You want Dan

1258
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: Bailey to get back to the ninety, but if you don't,

1259
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up cutting cutting him and getting another

1260
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: guy and it's gonna be the same boat. This sounds

1261
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: very doom and gloom, so contrary to my personality. I'll

1262
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: offer the optimism, which is that, Oh I like it.

1263
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: Since that bad stretch of days where he missed like

1264
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: four and two practices, like he's been, he's been back

1265
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Speaker 1: to his usual self out here. I think I think

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Speaker 1: he's missed one in the five practices since then, but

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Speaker 1: he's looked fine, So maybe it's much ado about nothing.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate you joining us this week. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back. Um, sorry, we'll be back to morrow. Actually

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Speaker 1: Amber will be hosting the show tomorrow. We'll be talking

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Speaker 1: more Cowboys football. We'll be on on Wednesday. That's when

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Speaker 1: we'll wrap up camp live here from Oxnard, California. Un

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Speaker 1: till then for Nick even, Amber Garcia, Dave Hellman, I'm

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