1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I'm Buck with me, my main man, 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Clay breaking it all down for you. The phone lines 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: are open eight hundred two A two two eight A two. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: If you have a story of insane COVID authority, maybe 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: we could take that later on in the hour. You know, 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: if you've got them telling you, if you've been yelled 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: at by somebody recently to pull your mask up, well 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: they're at mask was, you know, down by their feet. 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: We want to hear about it. We want to hear 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: about the craziest stuff you've seen, because with us now 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: is a man who has been in the crosshairs of 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: the Fauchiites all along. Alex Barrenson. He was formerly a 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: New York Times reporter. He is the author of the 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: very excellent Untold Truths About COVID nineteen, a three part series. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: You can get all of it on Amazon, assuming they 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: haven't tried to pull it off of Amazon. Alex, great 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: to have you, man, It's good to be with you. 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: I want to ask you what is the stuff about? 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Since so claid I always talking about how we are 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: not part of the suppression, the suppression apparatus, or we're 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: not covered by it. I mean insofar as we do radio. 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: So people will hear what you say. They cannot stop 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: you here, there's no algorithm that shuts it down. What 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: do you want to say about where we are right 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: now with vaccines that you're not supposed to say, but 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: that you truly and firmly believe. So so that's a 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: great question. Um. Look, and and you know I want 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: to say I now have direct a direct outlet too, 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: which is there's a there's a platform called Substack, a 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: publishing platform which a numbers of independent and some conservative 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: journalists have gone to recently, which you know, like a 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Glenn Greenwald is not conservative, or a Matt Taiti who's 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: not conservative. So I'm on there now. It's again. The 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: publishing platform is called Substack, and mine is just unreported truth. 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: If you pe, if you put an Alexperi and you'll 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: find it. And I feel the need to say that 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: because you know, I was censored by Amazon last year 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: and I am on Twitter and they've been pretty good, 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: but I'm aware that they you know, they could decide 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: to pull the plug on me if they wanted. Okay, 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: so now now that I got that out of the way, 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: here's what I think about the vaccines. And you can 45 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: read what I think in an uncharacatured way at that site. Okay, 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: at subset you can read the newsletters. Um, I think 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: the vaccines have a very complicated risk benefit analysis. This 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: is not me being a conspiracy theorist. I'm not talking 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: let five G or grassine oxide or anything like that. 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is these are complicated pharmaceutical products. And 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: they they they they basically are technology that's never really 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, been used on a wide scale until the 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: last few months. We don't know how well they work. 54 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: We don't know how long they work. We don't really 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: know what the side effect profile is, um and we 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: don't and we and we know that COVID is far, far, 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: far are more dangerous to older people and to really 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: obese people, to people with severe com morbidities than everybody else. 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: So what happened when these came out last year, when 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: the clinical trial data came out and they showed supposedly 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: ninety five percent efficacy, there was a push by all 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the people who pushed everything else last year, like masks 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: and lockdowns and school closures. We're going to make everybody 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: get these. And guess what, It turns out that the 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: mask is a lot more complicated than anybody realized, although 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: people should have realized it at the time, and that 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: there's a you know that it appears that the side 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: effects for healthy young men, they can get my alcharditis, 69 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: young women can have these terrible blood clotting disorders. These 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: are rare, but COVID is also not very dangerous to 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: those people. And so for people let's say sixteen over 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: seventeen over the risk benefits of the vaccines, who looks 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. Not as good as we thought at first, 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: but pretty good. But for everybody else, it's far more complicated. 75 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: And instead of being honest about that, the public Health 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: establish has not been telling the truth about it. And 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, two months ago they were trying to and 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I use the word sucker, and I will use it again, 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: they were trying to sucker people with lotteries and stuff 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: like that get younger people at low risk to get these. 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Now they're getting angry and has threatening mandates. Alex This 82 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, I appreciate all the work you've done over 83 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: the past few years, and I've had you on a 84 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: few times as well. Glad you're on with us here. 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: So I want to focus on kids for a minute. Here. 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: There's a big study that came out from England, and 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: I know you synthesize that study, but I got three kids. 88 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: I know you have kids too. I've got a thirteen 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: year old, I've got a ten year old, and I've 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: got a six year old. To me that you talk 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: about the risk benefit cost benefit analysis, there is no 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: way to justify based on all the data that I 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: have seen young children being given this vaccine for a 94 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: virus that literally essentially has a zero percent danger to them. 95 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: Can you quantify because there's a lot of parents and 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: grandparents out there, can you qu five the risk analysis 97 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: that you think parents should go through as it pertains 98 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: to kids in particular and this vaccine. Sure, So the 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: British data is quite good. Britain has twelve million people 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: under the age of eighteen. They reported sixty one deaths 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: from COVID, which, okay, that would be one and two 102 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, which is pretty low. But the real number 103 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: is lower than that because when they actually looked at death, 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: they found that only twenty five of those could be 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: linked to COVID. So that's even lower than when they 106 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: looked at who those twenty five kids were, they found 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: that thirteen had what they called complex neurodegenerative disorders. You know, 108 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: these are kids with severe, severe birth defects. Probably, so 109 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: now we're down to twelve. And then when they looked 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 1: at those twelve, they found that only six, only six, 111 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: out of twelve million children or young adults in Britain, 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: children or teens in Britain who were previously healthy had 113 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: died of COVID in the first year of the epidemic. 114 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: And Britain had a bad COVID epidemic as bad as 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: the US. So that's one in two millions. So so 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: why on earth would we be encouraging children or young 117 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: adults to get a vaccine even if it had no 118 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: risks for you know, for for an illness that's that rare. 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: And the fact is it doesn't have no risks. There 120 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: are many, many cases of myo chroditis, which is a 121 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: hard inflammation which can be quite serious. It can be mild, 122 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: can also be quite serious that have already shown up 123 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: in h side effect reporting data piece Alex it seems, 124 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: it seems. Can I ask you about this just when 125 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: you talk about the kids, because Deblasio, the mayor here 126 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: in New York, just said that he even though the 127 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: CDC says vaccinated kids shouldn't have to mask up, the 128 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: policy right now is masking in the schools. And you know, 129 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: masking is my it is my white whale of It's 130 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: the thing that I will never concede. But we'll get 131 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: at that in a moment um. Is this just because 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: over anxious adults like the teacher is the teachers union, 133 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: folks don't want to be exposed to the kids that 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: may give them the virus? I mean, is that they're 135 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: because otherwise it does seem completely insane. Or are they 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: really saying the one in a million risk to kids 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: is too high? Which is it? No? I mean, it's 138 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: it's completely insane because even if there were a higher risk, 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: masks would do nothing. Okay, And in the last year, unfortunately, 140 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: what I've concluded about masks is that is that the 141 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: people in the public health establishment view masks. They know 142 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: that masks are useless. Anybody who's looked at the data 143 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: at all can see. The masks are useless. Masks are 144 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: a symbol. Okay, this epidemic essentially ended on the day 145 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: that the CDC said people who are vaccinated don't have 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: to wear masks, because everybody stopped wearing masks, whether you're 147 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: vaccinated or not. And when you don't see people masked, 148 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: it is hard to remember to be afraid of this 149 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: thing that you know that's never put anybody in the hospital, 150 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: that you know, that's never killed anybody that you know, 151 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: or maybe you know it killed your eighth or year 152 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: old grandmother who had Alzheimer's. The risks of COVID are, 153 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, fide again from that fraction of people who 154 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: are who are very elderly or very o piece, you know, 155 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: are just so low that it's impossible for anybody to 156 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: stay scared of it. And that's why we have to 157 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: keep justifying these measures. But and look, masks are problematic, 158 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: But to me, vaccines are much more problematic because a 159 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: vaccine is, you know, it's not a piece of cloth 160 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: you can take off. It is something that's being injected 161 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: to you. And we should know what the risks really 162 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: are if we're going to mandate that Alex, I know 163 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: you have young kids. I have said, my wife's agreed, 164 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: we're not going to get our kids vaccinated. We have 165 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: one who theoretically might be eligible now he's thirteen. Buck 166 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: and I have been open on this show. We both 167 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: have had COVID ourselves. I've been out and I still 168 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: have COVID antibodies. So personally, I don't see the point 169 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: of me getting a vaccine when I already have the 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: antibodies that the vaccine would be designed to give me. 171 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: Some people out I mean, and I think that's a 172 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: pretiological perspective. Now, some people out there will will lay 173 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: that kind of opinion anti VAXX, and that's not accurate. 174 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: I think it's true for you too. There are vaccines 175 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: that children should get, and my kids got all of 176 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: the measles, Mom's rebella all of those vaccines. But this 177 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: is different, right, And and what you're saying is we 178 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: should actually be looking at the logic and the analysis 179 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: as opposed to just accepting what we're being told. That's asolutely, 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: it's absolutely different. It works differently, it's like no other vaccine. 181 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: It's being pushed like no other vaccine. And then the 182 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: two points you raise are actually the two points and 183 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: again I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but they're the two 184 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: points that come up the most but that have the 185 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: least good answers. One is why would we push kids 186 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: to be vaccinated? And two, why aren't we telling people 187 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: who have had COVID who know they've had had you know, 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: had COVID with a positive test and with antibodies. Why 189 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: are we telling those people that get vaccinated national immunity works. 190 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: And when they have studied this, okay, when they've looked 191 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: at large samples of people who've been uh, you know, 192 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: who have gotten COVID and looked at reinfection rates, they 193 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: are as low as reinfection as infection rates for the 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: vaccine at the heak of vaccine efficacy, Alex, can I 195 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: ask why why can't Foucy? Sorry, there's a million things 196 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: as you're talking that I want to ask you, but 197 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: I also don't want to interrupt your flow. And you know, 198 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to take a quick commercial break, Alex, 199 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: and we'll keep you through. But one question I want 200 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: to I want to put out there and then and 201 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: then what we can address it on the on the 202 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: other side would be why is it that we can't 203 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: get a straight answer about naturally drived immunity from the 204 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: public health authorities. But put a pin in that for 205 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Alex for one second. 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Looking 230 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: like Clay and I may actually be on Fox together tonight. 231 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: They hadn't even told me that during the seven o'clock our. 232 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's when I just got told. I'm assuming 233 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: you're did you get an email? Was I on the email? 234 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: I know? But they're just they figure that I'm I'm 235 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: like the Clay Whisperer. I tell of like, hey, Clay, 236 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: let's do this. So that's that would be fun. We'll 237 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: be on I think the seven o'clock hour. I don't know. 238 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he's got an email too. Yeah, we got together 239 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: in real time. People are finding out when we're finding 240 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: it all across the country. Around seven oh five Eastern time, 241 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck on TV together tonight Fox News. We're 242 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: our friend Pete Hegseth. You know, Pete and I basically 243 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: started in this business together. I'm ten years ago. It's 244 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of amazing how time flies. Um. All right, let 245 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: we did say we wanted to get to some calls, 246 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: and we do so. Tyson in Daytona Beach, Florida, are 247 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: speaking of Buck. You're on the Clay Travis and Buck 248 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: Sexton show. Heay Clay, I'm Buck, but close enough. It's cool. 249 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Touch on was basically Rob Manford just recently committed one 250 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars to the An Alliance, basically 251 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: aiming to increase black you know, representation throughout the sport baseball. Um. 252 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I grew up a brave fan and so um, I 253 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I know that the sports become more and mormal. Bole 254 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: over the rules, um last night and rundle. But we 255 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: got to get you to talk into your into your 256 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: receiver or into your phone or else. We gotta because 257 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: we can't hear you didn't hear me? Yeah we can. Um. 258 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: So basically Bob or Rob Manfred donated the whole book 259 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: million towards the Alliance. All right, now, man, Tyson, we 260 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: appreciate it. We cannot hear you. We apologize, but we 261 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: got it. We gotta bounce. Gary in Florida, Welcome to Clay, 262 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sex Show. Yeah. I wanted to ask 263 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: you a question because you know, I've been following Al 264 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Experienson's work for the for the past year and a 265 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: half and it's just great. How how he's exposing such 266 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: nonsense about this whole COVID nineteen affair. But I was 267 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: just wondering why nobody has brought up the aspect of 268 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: the monetary situation here. A lot of people are making 269 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: a lot of money peddling a totally unnecessary vaccine for 270 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: a sickness that has a ninety nine plus percent recovery. 271 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: Why do people even need this vaccine? Thanks? Thanks for 272 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: the calling. Yeah, thanks for the call. Gary started to 273 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: cut you off. We got we want to get as 274 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: many calls and wean possible. Look, I think we've been straightforward. 275 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at the data. People 276 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: over the age of sixty five and people with comorbidities 277 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: or obesity related issues, as you heard Alex Barnson say 278 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: in the second hour, do I believe benefit from the 279 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine, right, those people are the ones who have 280 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: been overwhelmingly harmed by COVID. The average age of death 281 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: from COVID, even if you count in the comorbidities over 282 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: the age of eighty and Buck, you and I have 283 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: talked about for people who are in our own families. 284 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: We have encouraged people over sixty five to get the 285 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine. The data reflects that they are going to 286 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: benefit really without question. I mean, just to be clear, 287 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: if you're over sixty five, the risk reward factor of 288 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: getting the vaccine is quite clear. It's worth getting it 289 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: if you're sixty five and up. But what is unfortunate 290 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: is that the government and its speakers have not been 291 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: willing to talk intelligently enough with the American public. What 292 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Buck and I have talked about is everybody out there, 293 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: like us who has already had COVID still has COVID antibodies. Children. 294 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: There is virtually no data that suggests that they are 295 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: benefiting at all from the COVID vaccine. Young people, people 296 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: in their eighteen to twenty nine year old range, college 297 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: age kids, there's no suggestion that it is benefiting to 298 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: them to have this, and so the conversation that we 299 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: had with Alex Berenson is an important one because I 300 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: think it's far more nuanced and intelligent than almost anything 301 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: you're going to hear anywhere else in media about both 302 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: the perils and the pratfalls at times of COVID mandates 303 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: and vaccine decision making, and the lack of honesty from 304 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: the blue check public health authorities and just from the 305 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: major corporate Democrat media organizations on this topic in general, 306 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: is really all you have to know to make you 307 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: want to ask even more questions when they won't even 308 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: admit where they've already been proven to be wrong, for example, 309 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: in the lab leak theory suppression. I'm not saying the 310 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: lab leak theories one hundred percent. I think it's more 311 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: than fifty, probably more like eighty or ninety, but the 312 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: fact that they suppressed that information turned out to be wrong. 313 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: There are other instances as well, so we need to 314 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: dig in and ask questions, and we also need to 315 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: return here in a moment Clay and revisit voting rights 316 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: issues and some words of wisdom from Russ himself. No 317 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: doubt we're going to dive into that here in a moment, 318 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: but first, we also want you to know we're fortunate 319 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: to still be seeing homeland options with rates in the twos. 320 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: We both said it before, I'll keep saying it again. 321 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Those kinds of rates can really make a difference in 322 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: your life and in your monthly payment. You can save 323 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars a month maybe if you take advantage 324 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: of American Financing and get a free mortgage review. No 325 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: pressure rates really are near all time lows. 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I'm Buck, He's Clay, and man, 343 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: the time has flown by today we have this issue 344 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: of Democrats convincing themselves, or at least pretending to be convinced, 345 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: that there is a massive voter suppression conspiracy all across 346 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: the country. It is rooted in racism, they say, that's 347 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: what this is all really about. It is Jim Crow 348 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: two point zero. And they will even say things that, 349 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: by the way, have been tested in the courts and 350 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: found to be completely legitimate, universally acceptable, things like voter ID. 351 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: They'll tell us that that alone, voter ID requirements for 352 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: mail in ballots evil, undemocratic and of course racist. But 353 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: that's not true. Staunch majority, solid majorities of the American 354 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: people across all backgrounds and categorizations except for maybe Marxist leftist, 355 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: but they believe in voter ID. A majority of African 356 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: Americans polled believe in voter ID. A majority of Latino Americans, 357 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: a majority of all Americans believe in voter ID. And 358 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: rush knew this and spoke about this just in May 359 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: of this year. Here's what he said, the old photoids. 360 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Think of anything you do in your life where you 361 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: do not need a photo ID. You need a photo 362 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: cash check, photo ID to get on an airplane. You know, 363 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: photo ID. Most mundane things in life you need a 364 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: photo ID. But yet Eric Holder and his gang tell 365 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: us that to require a photo ID when one votes 366 00:19:54,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: is intimidation and it is discrimination, and it will cause 367 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: people to hold up in their homes and not vote. 368 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: When people say, oh no, no, no, will be glad 369 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: to provide them a photoid free if they just come 370 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: down the city hall. That's a trick also to get 371 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: people out of their homes. It's the state using its 372 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: awesome fist to discriminate and intimidate people who don't have 373 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: photo ID. Okay, oh well, and let's take it at 374 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: face value. The Democrat party standing tall, standing strong for 375 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: people who want to be able to vote, but who 376 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: can't prove who they are by the same talking to 377 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: these people who do not have photoids, are they thus 378 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: able also to get on an airplane. Are they not 379 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: able to get a credit card? Are they not able 380 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: to cash check? I mean, look at all the things 381 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: you can't do if you don't have a photoid. Look 382 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: at all of the areas in our society, in our 383 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: economy where you are shut out if you don't have 384 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: a photo ID. Just think about it. The Democrat Party, 385 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: which claims to stand for the little guy, wants to 386 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: maintain that status for certain of its constituents, no photo ID, 387 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: because it's just too scary and intimidating to have to 388 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: have one of those to vote. But at the same time, 389 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: those people are shut out of the US economy. Clay, 390 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: not only is it untrue that voter ID is this 391 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: massive suppression measure that's rooted in bigotry, that Democrats always 392 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: insist that any voting requirement is somehow racist. Is itself troubling? 393 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: Isn't it? Oh? It certainly is, because what you're basically 394 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: saying is a default racist allegation of your own, because 395 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: you're imputing the intelligence of people who evidently are not 396 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: capable of getting IDs. And I think this ties in, 397 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: by the way, with what Rush is saying, also with 398 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: our conversation with Alex Berenson in the second hour. I 399 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: did not get the vaccine yet, but I was scheduled 400 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: to go get the vaccine the Johnson and Johnson when 401 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: they pulled it off the market, literally the day when 402 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: they said it's not safe enough, my wife had signed 403 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: me up. I was going to go. You know what 404 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: that was required that I have in order to get 405 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine a photoid. So if you are required 406 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: to have a photoid to get a vaccine, which doctor 407 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: Fauci wants to tell us, is the difference between life 408 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: and death, even though if you look at the data, 409 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: there's really no reason for me to get the vaccine. 410 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, I didn't know then Buck that 411 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I still had the COVID antibody So I went and 412 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: got the covid antibody test. I read the data the 413 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland Clinic, all this other analysis and made a reasonable, intelligent, 414 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: I believe, decision based on my own body's health. But 415 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I just I was blown away when I got the 416 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: email and it told me that I had to bring 417 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: a photoid to get the COVID vaccine, because the Democratic 418 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: Party had been telling me that it was racist to 419 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: require a photo id to vote, so it must also 420 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: be racist, or require a photoid for a COVID vaccine. 421 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: None of it really makes sense, does it, Clay? And 422 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: yet here we are being told that every measure that 423 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: can be taken, even in states where there are incredibly 424 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: open and conducive to different schedules voting. I mean, you 425 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: really get the sense that Democrats will not be happy 426 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: until voting is something you do anonymously on your phone 427 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: with no checks and balances whatsoever. Right until it's essentially 428 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: the equivalent of text, you know whatever, Like you're voting 429 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: for an American Idol finalist and you know who to 430 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: text as many times as you want, just you know, 431 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: regular rates may apply. Right until we get to that phase, 432 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: they're going to be telling us that this is this 433 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: is the way it is. And there are just so 434 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: many lines around all this, but I know we opened them. 435 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: I got two things here, one doctor Fauci and Clay. 436 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Clay knows it's like throwing steak in the lion cage 437 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: whenever Fauci goes on TV and says something stupid and 438 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: lockdown obsessed. So we're gonna get to that at a moment, 439 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: because Clay just pulled the pointed that out. But we've 440 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: also got a bunch of calls. We could take a 441 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: couple of them, now, a couple of them after Claire, 442 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: why don't you pick who do you want to go 443 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: to first? Uh? Well, we're talking a lot about, by 444 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: the way, the Major League Baseball All Star Game, and 445 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: I also put up a poll question. You just heard 446 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: us talking about Stephen A. Smith forced to apologize for 447 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: what he said about show Hey Otani and certainly the 448 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball All Star Game pulled out of Atlanta 449 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: over the voting bill. And there are a lot of 450 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: people talking about whether or not to watch the game, 451 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: which is taking place in Denver tonight, and Scott and 452 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Houston is one of them. What you got for us? Yeah, so, 453 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: my wife and I Hamy, we're a huge Astros fan 454 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: and major League Baseball fans. But you know, since all this, 455 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: we've we've haven't watched a single game since, nor will 456 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: we ever until there's either an apology or to get 457 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: rid of the commissioner or something. Yeah, you know, thanks 458 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: for the call, Scott. I've always troubled by that because 459 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: if you love something, allowing someone else's stupidity to take 460 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: away something that you love is a tough balancing act. 461 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: I certainly understand it. The Braves were upset. I was 462 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: fine giving my money to the Atlanta Braves for tickets 463 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: when we went down a couple of weeks ago with 464 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: my kids. I didn't want to turn to my ten 465 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: year old and say, hey, you've got a boycott watching 466 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves baseball games, which you love because of the 467 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: idiotic decision of Commissioner Rob Manford. I understand some people 468 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: might disagree with that, but that's my perspective as a 469 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: dad trying to balance out a decision like that. Let's 470 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: get John in Woodlands, Texas. John, you're speaking to Buck. 471 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: This is the Clay Travison Buck Sexton Show. First of all, 472 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm a legal immigrant, so I love this country as 473 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: much as anyone. Second of all, I think Stephen A. 474 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: Smith should be fired. The reason why, if we have 475 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: a constitution that gives equal rights to everyone, any conservative 476 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: that would have said that would be secured. I think 477 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: he has the right to say it, but because anyone 478 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: else would be treated differently, I think he is one 479 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: of the biggest pompous asses on a radio for saying 480 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: what he said. He should be fired. John, I just 481 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: want to say that this is a constant and thank 482 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: you for weighing in. This is a constant struggle that 483 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: I know a lot of conservatives have, which is do 484 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: we be reasonable people who stand on principle or do 485 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: we force the other side to live by the rules 486 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: that they use as weapons against us? And by the way, 487 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's one answer to that or 488 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: a hard and fast rule that you can apply. I 489 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: think that you're trying to balance these things at some level, 490 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: because for me, you know, yeah, if it was if 491 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: it was clearly egregious, I'd say, well, clearly egregious, you 492 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: know what's good for our side, good for that. But Clay, 493 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: I just I didn't think it was that bad. I mean, 494 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was something you need to say 495 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: sorry for more than once, for sure. Yeah, And that's 496 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: I think one of the balancing acts of cancel culture 497 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: in general that people have to try to reconcile. What's 498 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: the best way to kill cancel culture? Is it by 499 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: enforcing ridiculous left wing mandates and thereby making them realize 500 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: how ridiculous it is, or by actually not enforcing cancel culture? 501 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: You tell me, Buck, I don't know the easy answer. 502 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: And Clay can you can you make sure that you 503 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: bring us back in and we get everyone gets to 504 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: hear what the little stalinist lab coat Smurf Fauci has 505 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: to say. I'm going I mean, it's like late in 506 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: the show and my head is going to explode, but 507 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna get it. Fouci's got some thoughts about your kids, folks, 508 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: That's that's what we'll start with that. But I want 509 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: your dog to be as healthy as absolutely possible. And 510 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: dog food is something that can sit on the shelf 511 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: at big box stores for a few years. You get 512 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: all this dry kibble and stuff. It doesn't have all 513 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: the probiotics, enzymes and a healthy micro bacteria that your 514 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: dog needs and that your dog would get if they 515 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: were running around the woods eating stuff that's out there 516 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: that's living right. So rough Greens is a necessary additive 517 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: to your dog's food. We've been putting it into Lula, 518 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: my family French bulldogs food four weeks now and she's 519 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: looking great. She's got a little extra energy. My mom says, 520 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: he's sleeping very well, her tummy seems a little more settled. 521 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: You just add Rough Greens. Are you f f By 522 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: the way Rough Greens into your dog's food. It's got 523 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: twenty three all natural vitamins and minerals from fruits and vegetables, 524 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: and fifteen powerful strains of probiotics, among digestive enzymes and 525 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: other things that help keep your dog healthy and happy. 526 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: You know you really don't want us when the dog 527 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: has an upset tummy wakes you up in the morning 528 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: and the night I've had that, it's no fun. Give 529 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: your dog Rough Greens gonna keep them as healthy as possible. 530 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: The folks at rough Greens are so confident your dog 531 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: is gonna love it, They've worked out a special deal 532 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: for our listeners. Go to rough Greens dot com, slash 533 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck and they'll give you the first bag free. 534 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: That's right free. You just cover the shipping and your 535 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: free bag of rough Greens will be on its way 536 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: to your home. That's Rough Greens. Are you f Roughgreens 537 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: dot Com? Slash Clay and Buck again. Clay Travis buck 538 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 539 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Want to update you on a whole question that's out there. 540 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: You heard the audio yourself should Stephen A. Smith have 541 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: been forced to apologize for his show. Hey Otani comments 542 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: fifty eight percent say no. I think this goes to 543 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: your point, Buck, which is the balancing act on cancel culture. 544 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: Some people want everyone held to the same standard as 545 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: the way to best destroy cancel culture. Other people believe 546 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: that by behaving reasonably you can illuminate the absurdity of 547 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: cancel culture. I'm not sure which of those options is 548 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: a better one. I do know this, listening to doctor 549 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: Fauci has become the worst option basically on the planet. 550 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: You haven't heard this yet. I haven't heard this yet. 551 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: I have just seen the headline doctor Fauci talking on 552 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: MSNBC today about whether or not kids ages two and 553 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: older should be wearing masks if they are unvaccinated. Here 554 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: was Lord Voldemort himself, Doctor Anthony Fauci. The children who 555 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: are not able to get vaccinated because of their age 556 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: should follow, their parents should follow with them. The guidelines 557 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: of the CDC that unvaccinated children of the certain age 558 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: greater than two years old should be wearing masks. No 559 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: doubt about that. That's the way to protect them from 560 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: getting infected, because if they do, they can then spread 561 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: the infection to someone else. Clay, I'm gonna try to 562 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: keep it calm here because right now I want to 563 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: flip over the radiodesk and start burning pires of cloth 564 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: masks that are useless in just an effigy here of 565 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: the stupidity of what's going on. So we can have 566 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: it be that the CDC is the be all end 567 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: all when the lockdown lives like it, but then with 568 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: the moment that they don't like it, they ignore it, 569 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: which is what's happening here in New York. Right Deblasio says, 570 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: all kids have to be masked. I don't care what 571 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: the CDC says. And now Faucci goes on TV and says, well, 572 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: listen to the CDC. This is now, it's all absurd. 573 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: I can't handle it. I would just say this we 574 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: had and again I would encourage you to go subscribe 575 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: to the podcast, Clay, Travis buck Sexton, seek it out, 576 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: listen to one of the few places you are going 577 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: to hear truth and honesty and media. We had Alex 578 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Barnson on Talking COVID in the second hour. He pointed out, 579 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: then in all of Great Britain, they've done an exhaustive 580 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: study of children, the odds of a child who gets 581 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: COVID dying of COVID one in two million, one in 582 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: two million. Your kids are more in danger by far 583 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: in this summer season of drowning when to go to 584 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: the lake or to the pool, by far than they 585 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: are from COVID. And the idea that you would put 586 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: a three year old, a three year old in a mask, 587 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: a two year old and one day old child, as 588 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci is saying, in a mask when there is 589 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: zero danger to them. And as a parent, and I 590 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of parents and grandparents out there 591 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: who have been through this, the idea that you can 592 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: force a young child to wear a mask is an absurdity, 593 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: and that all of this is building. Buck think I'm 594 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: predicting this. If we can save the cut, Ali, you 595 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: can grab it. There is going to be a mom 596 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: and a grandma riot against mask wearing at some point 597 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: in the near future, and I'm looking forward to. I 598 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: hope you're right, but I may have to bet you 599 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: one of those fancy Nashville BBQ dinners that we like 600 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: so much, because I think people are still more compliant 601 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: and complacent on this stuff than they should be in 602 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: a lot of places. So I think what you're saying 603 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: is true. I think that that sort of anti mask 604 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: riot may happen in Well, it probably won't actually happen 605 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: in a place like Nashville or a place like Tennessee 606 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: because you're not going to have the same rules in 607 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: the schools. I don't think it's going to happen in 608 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: New York. I think the Blue States people will still 609 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: do it. But I also just want to say this 610 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: is all a result of the cowardice of over anxious 611 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: adults who one don't want to admit that maybe they're 612 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: wrong or they're just too afraid, and two can't handle 613 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: the anxiety that they have over this because remember it's 614 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: not they're not really saying that kids are at risk. 615 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: The argument is that the kid is a vector of 616 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: disease for the adults. And oh, the adults, even when vaccinated, 617 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: can't handle this level of risk, which is just madness 618 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: and fact is the worst and most destructive public health 619 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: bureaucrat in history. I agree with that if you're afraid, 620 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: go get vaccinated. As we have said, if you are 621 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: over sixty five years old, or you are morbidly obese, 622 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: or you have significant comorbidities and you are unhealthy, make 623 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: the smart decision and go get vaccinated. But the idea 624 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: that children or young healthy adults are in danger and 625 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: need to be protecting themselves is mind numbingly dumb and 626 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: not supported by any analytical data that is out there. 627 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: And so the fact that you can't have these legitimate 628 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: conversations or Buck, that we can't even talk about the 629 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: fact that people like you and me already had COVID, 630 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: we still have COVID antibodies, and so it's totally illogical 631 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: and maybe if you look at the data, it helps 632 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: defeat the purpose. According to what Alex Berenson was talking 633 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: with us about, when you follow up a natural COVID 634 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: infection with a vaccine, you might provide yourself with less 635 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: protection than you are. I also think that we got 636 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: to blame the corporate and the corporate democrat media on 637 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: this one, because you never see debates about this Clay, 638 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: but we at least we bring the fire, We bring 639 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: the truth here on the Clif Traffs and Buck section, 640 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: and we're going to continue to follow this story very closely. 641 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: We do hope you will subscribe to the Clay Travison 642 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast. The iHeart app is a great 643 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: place to go for that wherever you get your podcast, 644 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: and you also can check us out at clayon Buck 645 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: dot com. Follow us on our respective social media accounts. 646 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Buck Sexton. He is Clay 647 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: Travis on Facebook and Twitter. He his tweet game is fierce. 648 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: My friends, he's tweeting up a storm and I believe 649 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: we are gonna be on Fox tonight. That's the schedule. 650 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: Run together seven o five Eastern Clayan Buck like Tango 651 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: and Cash with better hair, although those guys had good hair. 652 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: So you're in a bit. You're listening to Clay Travis 653 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network