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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is having a great day. Masters is off

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into a couple of different things today.

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Speaker 1: Something I noticed last night at the Warriors game in

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Speaker 1: from a lot of other sports, specifically football. Something draft wise.

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Speaker 1: We try to do something every single day in regards

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Speaker 1: and it got me thinking, like, sometimes it's just nice

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when I got out of football,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, and this is the challenge of being

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Speaker 1: would have give him the no trade class. But you

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Speaker 1: guys fell in love with them after you signed Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: even if the Atlanta Falcons eats some But what if

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna be staring down the off season gun

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Speaker 1: that's just bad management. So this is one of those

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's uh, let's bang out a few mailbag questions

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Speaker 1: at John middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms.

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Speaker 1: Calvin a big fan for about a year now, and

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Speaker 1: this is coming from a packers guy. What steps and

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Speaker 1: moves do you think we as a team need to

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Speaker 1: make to push us over the edge. Well, I would

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Speaker 1: say you're not quite to the edge. You were one

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Speaker 1: and done this year. Obviously against the champs. Last year

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Speaker 1: it felt like you were better, even though your defense

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Speaker 1: wasn't as good. I think we talked about the Packers

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Speaker 1: a lot, you guys, obviously worldwide fan base here to

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Speaker 1: go from far to Rogers to now this. It looked

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Speaker 1: like they did it again right after the Cowboy game,

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Speaker 1: and then even after last season ended, even he I

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Speaker 1: know he I think his season ended with a pick

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Speaker 1: against the Niners his first year starting, but it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the future is bright. And then last year he got

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Speaker 1: for a bizarre season. I've seen they you know, it's listen,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna bring in anyone on one of those

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Speaker 1: thirty visits that you're not interested in. So anytime you

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Speaker 1: see them bring in a wide receiver, I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say the Packers are gonna take a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in the first couple rounds. They've had success in

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Speaker 1: the second round, right, Davante pretty sure Jordi was a

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Speaker 1: second round pick. Might have been third round pick. Pretty

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Speaker 1: sure he's a second round pick, though those doesn't get

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Speaker 1: much better in second round picks Jordy Nelson and DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 1: so you don't always need to draft those guys really high.

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Speaker 1: But the thing with the Packers, like your expectations next

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Speaker 1: year is to compete for the NFC, and DeVante's career

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Speaker 1: didn't really get going until like second year, middle the

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Speaker 1: second year, and by the third year he took off.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes it takes it takes a little time. I

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Speaker 1: just think the offense has got to be more dynamic,

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Speaker 1: and whether that's some of the guys are already on

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Speaker 1: the roster taking big steps, maybe you become just a true,

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Speaker 1: true run heavy team, which I think Lafleur doesn't mind doing.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of his background. I mean, Aaron Jones obviously,

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs a stud. I'm trying to see what how

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Speaker 1: many what were Jacob's stats last year. I know he missed,

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Speaker 1: was he injured? I know he missed games with the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: but so Jacobs, he played in every game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jacobs was excellent. He averaged four and a half yards

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Speaker 1: of carry at three hundred carries, seven touchdowns, thirteen hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a big time player. Your backup running

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Speaker 1: back in five hundred yards. I mean you, guys, how

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Speaker 1: many teams in the league ran for more yards than

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Speaker 1: the Packers. I can't imagine it was many. I would

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Speaker 1: have been you guys were near the top in total

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Speaker 1: Eagles and the Ravens, which makes sense, so your rushing

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Speaker 1: offense is excellent. I would just keep leaning into that. Now,

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Speaker 1: I would lean into that with Jordan love Is, take

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Speaker 1: the pressure off him like you do, not make him

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Speaker 1: try to play like Joe Burrow. So I would just

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Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing and the defense gets better

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Speaker 1: and which was took steps last year under half Lee.

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Speaker 1: I'd be bullish if I was a backup fan, I

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Speaker 1: really would. I got so many Stanley's and hydros. My

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Speaker 1: question is do you ever plan on expanding the type

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Speaker 1: of content you make? I understand you are a podcaster,

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Speaker 1: but have you ever thought about making video essays where

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be that. But I was wondering

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Speaker 1: little bit more. I just look at it like this

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Speaker 1: bit on the side. We've done golf videos in the past,

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Speaker 1: once it gets I mean, it's ninety degrees where I'm at.

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Speaker 1: But I have some big ideas and it's just about

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Speaker 1: I take so much energy doing this. And listen, I

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Speaker 1: like it's it's physically demanding, but mentally, I do spend

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Speaker 1: because there's not as much going on. But you know,

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Speaker 1: So we plan on doing some of that stuff, which

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Speaker 1: so that there aren't any restrictions. And uh, we just

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Speaker 1: catch a pass, which one of these three corners would

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Speaker 1: you want to try to go against Sauce Gardner, Derek

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Speaker 1: Stingley or Trent McDuffie. Thanks, I would love to play

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Speaker 1: really grown on me, you know, I just see his

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Speaker 1: love of golf. He's a junkie, and so I appreciate

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Speaker 1: many wide receivers are really fast. So if the referees

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Speaker 1: and you aren't, like Derek Stingley is an elite athlete,

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Speaker 1: just to say, in your hip pocket. McDuffie is just

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Speaker 1: You know Sauce against me, like could I get open?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get open on any of these people. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate these questions. I think in a weird way, you

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Speaker 1: to pick these three guys, like Who'd I want on

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Speaker 1: my team, I would go Stingley, McDuffie, Sauce. But I

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Speaker 1: of these guys, regardless of a jam Sauce relative to

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Speaker 1: like Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase or you know, you

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Speaker 1: name some of the best receivers inly Aj Brown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But if my life depended on it, you'd have to

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Speaker 1: choose Sauce because he's the least of the three. I

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Speaker 1: first Mariner game last night in like ten years. I

642
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: was expecting it to be low attendance and low energy.

643
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Speaker 1: Yet there was like thirty thousand people and a shitload

644
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Speaker 1: of energy, which was surprising because it was Tuesday night

645
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: against the Astros. Not to mention we suck right now.

646
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: Just curious. The stigma I think that's really driven is

647
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: one the television the explosion of television sports talk, which

648
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: you know Collins obviously his show is he does, I

649
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: mean his podcast. What we do on the volume is

650
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: obviously different from what they do at The Herd, which

651
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: is a television show. First take, those type things are

652
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: basically driven all by football and then the NBA, Like

653
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: I think that baseball has got lost in that world.

654
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: And then in the podcast world, all the big podcasts

655
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: don't really talk about baseball. Obviously there are some baseball podcasts,

656
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: but like big quote unquote sports podcasts are just not

657
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: talking any baseball until the playoffs. So when that happens,

658
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: there becomes a stigma that it just is kind of irrelevant.

659
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Where I'd argue the NBA and is this someone that

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: just went to a game? You turn on these television shows,

661
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: no one is. It's pretty rare that, like you're really

662
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: breaking down a game like you would in football. It's

663
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: talking like where is Jokic gonna demand a trade to? Now,

664
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: no one gets a bigger heart on than basketball people

665
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: when a disaster happens with a franchise and they have

666
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: a star player, like is this guy gonna demand a trade?

667
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: It's an immediate conversation, where is Yokic gonna go. It's

668
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: like his coach got fired two minutes ago and now

669
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna ask for a trade. But that's the conversation,

670
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: and that to me, drives basketball talk and baseball talk.

671
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: It just doesn't exist. I also think most of these

672
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: people aren't watching games anymore, so you just talk about

673
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: what you watch. And I think a lot of people

674
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: in the space of talking about just general sports don't

675
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: watch any baseball. They basically have to go all in

676
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Speaker 1: on football. And you know, for me, for example, like

677
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't really even talk like I used to just

678
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: do a general radio show before I got into podcasting,

679
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: and then all I got into football and it got

680
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: so big. It's like why do not I just talk

681
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: more football? And then we started doing a football show

682
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: basically every day. And the reason I do golf is

683
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a passion project slash like,

684
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Speaker 1: you know, for business opportunities. But it's because I watch,

685
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't someone's like you should do that.

686
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'm just going to do that because

687
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: I watch I don't really watch other sports unless it's

688
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: like March madness or maybe the NBA playoffs or the

689
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Baseball playoffs. I do. I watch those type things when

690
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of consumers are And I

691
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: think that's where a lot of people have kind of

692
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Speaker 1: turned when it came to, you know, when it came

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Speaker 1: to talking about baseball, and I think the ratings reflected

694
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: that in terms of those shows. Now locally, you know,

695
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Speaker 1: do you think the Yankees kind of matter in New

696
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: York or the Dodgers matter in LA? It's if the

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00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: Giants are good, they I know, they really matter in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Philly. I mean the big markets are you know, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: the Cubs. Yeah. I think baseball has become a very

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Speaker 1: localized sport, but it's become very very lucrative. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these guys are making the top players five hundred to

702
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: seven hundred million dollars. Now it's over like twenty five

703
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Speaker 1: year contracts, but still any buzz on Gavin Bartholomew pit

704
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Speaker 1: tight end, small town kid who grew up in my

705
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: own town, went to high school, super nice, high character dude.

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Speaker 1: I saw him run the forty in the low four

707
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: to sevens. I was just wondering if you've heard his

708
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: name being brought up. I have not sometimes you know,

709
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not in the weeds as much. And

710
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: one thing I learned doing this is like the difference

711
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: when you work in football and you're really close to it,

712
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: you're so you're just nerding out on all these players

713
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: and you're just so in on the fifth, sixth, seventh

714
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: round picks, and then once you get doing my job

715
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: and you realize that when you're in it, but you

716
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: don't have a choice because you still got to write

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00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: these guys up and follow their careers. Half the people

718
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: that and you know this, whoever your team is, it's

719
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: like it's you get excited about third round pick, a

720
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick, and then all of a sudden they

721
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Speaker 1: are not playing it all come the fall and two

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00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents are in their spots. It's like I've

723
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: seen it so many times, is like you get so

724
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Speaker 1: excited on about guys on the second and third day,

725
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: and you just the guy you get really excited about

726
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: turns out to be the one that isn't as good

727
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Speaker 1: as the guy that no one talked about in the

728
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: fifth round who becomes like an all pro by his

729
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: third year. And I just think the draft is such

730
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Speaker 1: a crapshoot, especially this upcoming draft, like no one seems

731
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: to know how it's gonna shake out. I recently saw

732
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Speaker 1: a post joking about predicting the Luck Belichick rivalry being

733
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Speaker 1: the Stanford and UNC in both being acc opponents. Would

734
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Speaker 1: be absolutely insane to tell someone in twenty eighteen, do

735
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Speaker 1: you have any wild card predictions of college or NFL

736
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: guys switching like this? Do you think stuff like this

737
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: will happen in a few years with the landscape of

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Speaker 1: both leagues? Totally agree. One thing that has changed in

739
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: college football is one of these GM's jobs didn't exist,

740
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Speaker 1: and two the amount of money these programs can pay.

741
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Speaker 1: Belichick makes ten million dollars and he's not even he's

742
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of like got a discount. He's paying like four

743
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: guys on his staff seven figures, and that includes his

744
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: GM Mike Lombardi. Well, these GM jobs didn't exist, So

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00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: I think I just saw Jim Naggy, who ran the

746
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, who is a longtime scout, is now the

747
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: GM of the Oklahoma Sooners, and the guy who just

748
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: got hired to run the Senior Bowl had previously been

749
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: the GM of like Auburn, and I don't know, some

750
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: other major program and these guys are making so much

751
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: money that these jobs didn't exist. So I think we're

752
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: going to see more and more that If I would

753
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: have told you five years ago that the Colorado Buffaloes

754
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: are going to be coached by Dion Sanders as the

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00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: head coach, with Pat Shermer as the offensive coordinator, Marshall

756
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: Fulk as the running back coach, and Warren Sapp as

757
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach, you'd be like, what are you

758
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: talking about? And that's something that's actually happening. So one

759
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: thing we've learned now long enough in sports, but specifically

760
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: with this explosion in college football, you never know, and

761
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: we've seen it occasionally back in the day. Right Saban

762
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: just left the Dolphins to go back to or not

763
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: too back, but to Bama. Patrino left on the Falcons

764
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: when Vick got arrested and he went to was it

765
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: Arkansas Louisville? I forget Patrino, crazy cat, but good the

766
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: offensive coach. It was pretty jarring when that happens. Now,

767
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: if you told me that someone got fired this offseason,

768
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: I mean, Ron Rivera is the GM of cal Ron

769
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: Rivera was the head coach of the Washington football team

770
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: like eighteen months ago. I just think it's really really

771
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: hard to predict. The Belichick thing is crazy, But part

772
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: of that is I think he clearly knew that he

773
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: wasn't going to get a job or didn't want any

774
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: of the jobs that people would have even been interested

775
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: in hiring him. Where do you rank Sirianni? This is

776
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: David from Georgia. Where do you rank Sirianni among the

777
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: best coach in the NFL? Just curious. Hopefully you see

778
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: this and I look forward to the answer soon. It's

779
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: a great question. Anything I say is gonna sound like

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00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm a hater or talking shit when he's a Super

781
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: Bowl champ. So there's a short list of human beings

782
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: that can say I was a head coach for a

783
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: team that won a Super Bowl. There's probably even a

784
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: shorter list of guys that say I'm a head coach

785
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: that went to multiple Super Bowls. Think about this. Pete Carroll,

786
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: who's a legendary coach, who is a should be a

787
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer, And if you combine like

788
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: basketball does, pro and college, he's had one of the

789
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: most legendary coaching careers. He's been a head coach for

790
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Patriots, Seattle, the Trojans, and the Raiders.

791
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: He's been a head coach of five different places. They're

792
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: all pretty important. And he's been a two super Bowls total,

793
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: and Sirianni's also been a two in three years. So

794
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: it's like Sirianni and Pete Carroll have the same super

795
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: Bowl resume. They're one and one. Think about that. But

796
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: if you told me I was the GM and all

797
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: the coaches were free, right, all thirty two and assistance,

798
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: I could hire whoever I wanted in the pros, not

799
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: college like I had to hire or playing NFL football higher.

800
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he goes that high now. I don't

801
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: think he goes like twenty eight. But who are you

802
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: taking him over? Like, think about this, he's had more

803
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: success than Dan Campbell. But if all things were equal,

804
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: Like you don't get Howie Roseman, how it's not a

805
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: package deal. This isn't Shaq and Kobe, You skt one.

806
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: You s get Sirianni. If you or me or the GM,

807
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: are you hiring Sirianni over Dan Campbell? Cause you're not

808
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: taking him over the Harrorbob Brothers would say that a

809
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: lot of the offensive guys that call plays. If I'm

810
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: starting from scratch, like I don't have a two hundred

811
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: million dollar offense, we all have starting from the same point,

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00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: and how he is not existing, I'm the GM, I

813
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: would be really inclined to obviously hire you know, clearly

814
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: people would take Andy Reid over Sirianni, but would be

815
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: to hire the coaches that can also call the place.

816
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: So it's weird. It's like what he did is impressive,

817
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: but it does feel like an organizational thing, which again,

818
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: if you're him, who gives a shit? Now where it

819
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: does matter is where's his contract extension? Does Jeffrey Learry

820
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: believe in him? Because if he does, he should give

821
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: him four years, sixty million dollars fifteen million dollars a

822
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: year or something extension. Shouldn't that already be done by

823
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: now and maybe gets done? But has Jeffrey Learry giving

824
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: him that? Because I saw I headlined recently like it's

825
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: going to happen, And again I feel like a hater.

826
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: The guy won the Super Bowl, so who cares if

827
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: you're him, but no one's going to consider him near

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00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: the top I just I don't think much change is

829
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: because Jalen Hurts and that defense dominated the Chiefs. I'm

830
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: currently a senior in college and graduating in a month

831
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: with a degree in marketing. Congratulations. I've been wanting to

832
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: get into sports media and especially the football world for

833
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: a while now. I make content and write my own

834
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Speaker 1: stories for my team, the Denver Broncos. I've had an

835
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: intro call with ESPN, but doesn't seem like anything is

836
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: going to come from it. Just hoping you could provide

837
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: me some career advice in pursuing this career. I make

838
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: content and write my own stories. I think you just

839
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: keep doing that until something breaks Like this, what you are,

840
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: the world you're playing in. You know, people my age

841
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: you didn't even exist, so we would have no choice

842
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: but to keep contacting people because you couldn't just create

843
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: your own stuff. And I think the power of any

844
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: content you're creating, like I would quadruple down on that

845
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: if you have time and then just be. You got

846
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: to be guerrilla warfare, reaching out to people, emailing people, dming,

847
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: doing whatever it takes because in a weird way, being

848
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: a young guy out of college like you need them.

849
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: They don't need you, but once you're there, maybe they

850
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: realized they really needed you. But there's no way for

851
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: you to convince them that they need you without complete

852
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: guerrilla warfare just to get on their radar. So you know,

853
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Speaker 1: I can't speak they've never worked at ESPN or any

854
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: of these fox but you just got to be relentless

855
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: in your pursuit and eventually, you know, ideally something will break.

856
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: And while you're relentless in your pursuit, you can create

857
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: your own stuff. Question for the pod, Well, we see

858
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: a coach get fired, like Mike Malone in the NFL,

859
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: someone who's won at the highest level and continues to win,

860
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: but has lost the locker room and is a few

861
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: games away from the playoffs. I just I have a

862
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: hard time seeing it. You know, with three games left

863
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 1: or whatever, a week left in the season, it would

864
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: probably be the equivalent of a team I don't know,

865
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: maybe ten and ten and five that has a playoff

866
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: berth locked up firing their coach with two weeks because

867
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: they were ten and three and lost two games. I

868
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: just now here's the thing. In the NBA, you think

869
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: they fire him without Nicola, as Michael Malone called him,

870
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: saying I want him to stay, because if Jokic wanted

871
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: him to, say, what do you think happens? He's not fired.

872
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: We're in football. You're not exactly polling the locker room.

873
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: Though sometimes it happens. Jeffrey Leary famously did with Chip Kelly,

874
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: dragged him out of the building. Mark Davis did it

875
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels fired him on Halloween. So it can happen,

876
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: but usually it's firing at it. I don't want to

877
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: say out of nowhere, but during the season. It's typically

878
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: with bad teams. But it usually happens because either the

879
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: owner's turned on you or the players have turned on

880
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: you and they've gone to the owner. In basketball, that's

881
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: the only way it happens. No one gets fired in

882
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: the NBA at the highest level, they have star player

883
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: on the team without you going through the star player.

884
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: That's the way it works. The question I have for

885
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: the mail bag is regarding the Chargers, with it seeming

886
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: likely that we will look to take a tight end,

887
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: either Warren or Loveland. You see it worth them trading

888
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: back in the late first round and getting a defensive

889
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: tackle to replace Ford who they lost in free agency,

890
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: or Abuca out of Ohio State, so you can give

891
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: Herbert another weapon in the pass game to go with mcaukee.

892
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Both were huge pains in the butt for Harbaugh at

893
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: Michigan to deal with. Harmon was at Michigan State before transferring. Plus,

894
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: I think the biggest strength is Harbaugh being a recent

895
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: out of college game is being able to identify the

896
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: higher end talent. If so, would multiple twos and a

897
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: fourth to potential third be worth it? So, if so

898
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: would multiple twos and a fourth? I think you just

899
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: rely on Harbaugh's knowledge. I think I got water all

900
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: over me of the draft in terms of like knowing

901
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: these players really well. And I'm not opposed to trading

902
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: up if I'm a team like the Chargers in the

903
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: second round, But I'm also not blowing all my draft

904
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: capital for one individual player. Like we're not a player away.

905
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: We're four or five I mean really competing in the AFC.

906
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: Like really, we're a player away from being a little

907
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: bit better, but we're three or four or high end

908
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: starters away from competing for a super Bowl. And I

909
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: think sometimes when you make the move to trade up

910
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: and you get rid of future picks, it can limit

911
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: your ability harbut knows all these guys. He's recruitable, He's

912
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: been in their living rooms, he's coached or coached against

913
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: a lot of them, because, like you said, Ohio State,

914
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: but other guys in the Big Ten, Penn State guys.

915
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of good players from the

916
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Big Ten. And they've played you know, Alabama last year,

917
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: They've played in bowl games in previous years. Like, he

918
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: just knows this landscape really really well. So I would

919
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: have a hard time unless it was just a can't

920
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: miss thing. Okay, a couple more, do you think Jayden

921
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 1: Daniels will have a sophomore slump? As the media saying,

922
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: who's saying that? I haven't seen anyone saying that. But

923
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I thought CJ. I spring with a little money on

924
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: the Texans to be the number one seed. I thought

925
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: they had added to their defense. CJ was just a star.

926
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the offensive line is

927
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: terrible and they don't. So you can never predict these things.

928
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: So the thing about sports, it's just such a on

929
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: the fly, fluid reality show. You can take educated guesses.

930
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: Like the only thing we know is Chiefs are gonna

931
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: be good. Eagles by okay, but a lot of who

932
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: knows rams probably starts slow. Longtime listener loved the show.

933
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: I was listening to your podcast Thursday, the day of Friday.

934
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm a big movie watcher, and I listened to your

935
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: segment about Val Kilmer. Mark Wahlberg was the star of

936
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: Boogie Knights. VAL's big role was as Jim Morrison in

937
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: the movie The Doors. I felt was his best performance. Yeah,

938
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: I think the porn movie that I talked about with

939
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Val Kilmer was not Boogie Knights. It was called Wonderland.

940
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Boogie Knights was a major hit. Wonderland was not,

941
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: and he played like Wahlberg played fictional character. To my knowledge, right,

942
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: Dirk Diggler was not an actual porn star. Val Kilmer

943
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: in the movie. I think it was like two or

944
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: oh one played John Holmes, who was a legitimate porn

945
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: star I think in like the eighties or nineties. So

946
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: if I said Boogie Knights, I didn't mean that I

947
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: was talking about a different movie. But I enjoyed the

948
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: movie Val Kilmer did. Obviously, It's not Boogie Knights, but

949
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: it was good, and I recom I think it's called Wonderland.

950
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: I think again, I looked it up a couple of

951
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's success. I don't think it was a

952
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: successful movie. I don't even think a lot of people

953
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: saw it. I don't even know how I ended up

954
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: seeing it. I just remember watching it and liking it.

955
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: But I listened to I've listened to a lot of

956
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Val Kilmer content, and I do think what made him.

957
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's such a big star, not like Arnold

958
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger or Sylvester Stallone, Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks some

959
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: of the other people during his era, but I mean

960
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: he was pretty famous. I mean he had starring roles

961
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: with Tom Cruise, with de Niro and Pacino with Kurt Douglas.

962
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he he had some huge, huge movies, but

963
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: he was always like the number two. He's just like

964
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: one of the truly great. And listen, not everyone can

965
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: be Michael Jordan or Steph Curry. Being Scottie Pippen or

966
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson is a pretty good living. You become pretty legendary.

967
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: And I think that, like in terms of movies, that's

968
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: kind of what he was. Like. He wasn't a star quarterback,

969
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: but he was like the Hall of Fame tight end

970
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: or like the Hall of Fame guard right, just it

971
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: doesn't get any better, and having that guy on your team,

972
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: but he couldn't carry your team, but you wanted him

973
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: on your team. And then I was listening to Simmons

974
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: did like a long pod on him. I guess he

975
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: he was pretty difficult to work with in his prime.

976
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: And Kyle Rant on that podcast of Good Morning Football

977
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: had a good point and I completely agree with him.

978
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: It's like I kind of missed the days when just

979
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: some stars and this is why Aaron Rodgers is good

980
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: for business. Not everyone can be the same. It's a

981
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: problem with like the PGA Tour once liv took all

982
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: the bad boys. All your guys are kind of boring.

983
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: Like I like some guys to be wild card human beings.

984
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: It's what makes Hollywood great. Like, not everyone's a straight arrow.

985
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Some of these guys are fucking batshit crazy ego maniacs.

986
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: Don't listen to anybody got drug problems. The NBA used

987
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: to be full the NBA I grew up on in

988
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: the nineties. I was like, we were talking about this

989
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: last night was full of complete nut jobs. I mean

990
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: people just doing crazy things on and off the court

991
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: and the league benefited from that. The NFL has always

992
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: had that Hollywood kind of feels boring now, like I

993
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: need a little bit more like don't know what's gonna

994
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: happen here, Like you know who's good for business Mike Tyson,

995
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: because you've got no clue what is coming. And then

996
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: you think like, Okay, he's gonna knock Jake Paul out

997
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, he actually can't move. But it

998
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: was so Mike Tyson's so crazy, you just assumed and

999
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: I kind of did too. They're like, I can see

1000
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: him knocking them out. And then you're like five minutes

1001
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: into the fight, as it's trying to stream, you're like, hey,

1002
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: he's got no shot. And if it is true, the

1003
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: Val Kilmer was really difficult to work with. I miss

1004
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: some of just stars, whether it's athletes, whether it's musicians.

1005
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, think about how many musicians. Some of the

1006
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: stories that are famous of guys just like burning down

1007
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: a hotel room or just doing things that you know

1008
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne, like blowing a line of fire, ants biting

1009
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: off birds heads. Kind of missed those days of just

1010
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: no clue what's happening with just superstars in whatever entertainment industry.

1011
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: It feels like we've kind of gotten boring that way,

1012
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: which is understandable. There is more money than ever on

1013
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: the line for all these human beings, so it's like,

1014
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: be on your best behavior. Be on your best behavior

1015
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: is kind of boring entertainment. So if al Kilmer truly

1016
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: was Rip a wild card to deal with, he was

1017
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: clearly pretty talented. Now what was he? A star like

1018
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen Jordan disappeared like bulls weren't win the title.

1019
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: Could Val Kilmer carry the movie as the star? Probably not.

1020
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: It's not really his thing. It's definitely not what he

1021
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: excelled at. Now, maybe he'd say I never got the

1022
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 1: right role, and maybe that's true, but you could argue

1023
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: he is definitely of his era the greatest supporting actor,

1024
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: and honestly, it might not even be close. It might

1025
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: not even be close. He's kind of like the Scottie

1026
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: Pip in Hollywood in the nineties. The volume