1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number one nine, and 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: today we're back with a late season edition of our 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: rut radio episodes, and we're getting updates from deer hunters 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: across the country about the latest on deer movement, dear behavior, 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: and the tactics that you can be working on right 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: now to fill that late season tag. All right, welcome 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: sit gear, and here today we are doing one of 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: our radio episodes in which we are checking in with 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: a series of hunters from all across the country to 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: get the latest on what's happening in the White Tail woods. 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: So we're talking to people about the deer activity they're seeing, 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 1: how dear behaving, how they are reacting to different sets 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: of weather factors and conditions, um, what kind of tactics 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: are working. All that kind of good stuff, so that 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: when you head to the woods next you have the 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: most recent and relevant information to help you fill those 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: final tags of the season. And even though Novembers in 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: the rear view mirror and a lot of running activity 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: we would expect to see is is you know in 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: the past, there's still a lot of good hunting to come. 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: And so that's what we're talking about today with me 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: to help us do that is the one and only 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: tag filling machine Spencer New Hearth. Uh. It's almost ridiculous, 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: like it's it's hard for me to even know what 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: I've been doing wrong to have such a season opposite 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: of yours, because it seems like everywhere I go, everything 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I do, the deer doing the opposit the thing. But you, 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: every place you go, every time you're in the woods, 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: seemingly you are punching a tag. You you just killed 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: and elk in like seven minutes or something probably like that. 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Can you tell us really quick what happened there? Well? 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: In South Dakota, Uh, we have the Black Hills here, 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: just an island of mountains in the western part of 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: the state. And although a cow elk to most people 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: further west of here is not a big deal, in 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: South Dakota, there's only like a few hundred of those 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: tags given out. And so I am a flat lander, 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: being from the eastern part of the state. So getting 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: a cow elk was was really cool. And that was 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: December one that I was able to fill that tag. 45 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: That was the opening day for that hunt. So it 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: was just a fun way to to open up the 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: winter months here in South Dakota. And since I am 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: pretty much done deer hunting at this point, uh that 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: that was a cool way to to take my mind 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: off of not being able to chase white tails anymore. 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: And it was a rifle hunt for a cow. Like 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: I said, so I am now looking on for the 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: most part with that cow elk tag field Man, that 54 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: is awesome. And killing a cow elk, I mean, killing 55 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: any elk is such an accomplishment. Um. And just that meat, 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that meat is so good. I'm very, 57 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: very jealous. You've got a freezer full of of elk calm. So, 58 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: you killed a giant white tail with your bow in 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: a couple of days, you kill another big South Dakota 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: white tail with a rifle. You killed another big mule 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: here with a rifle. You killed a cow elk with 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: a rifle. Yeah, what'd you kill? Some kind of swans? 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Some like paddlefish? Uh? You killed like a world record turkey. Uh, 64 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: what haven't you killed this year? Dude. Uh, we're running 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: out of things. We better just get so I can 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: get to new tags. Oh gosh, dude, that's exciting. Yeah. 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Just pass along some of this luck to the rest 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: of us and our listeners. And Uh, that being said, 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: do you have anything as far as the deer activity 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: report or anything that you want to share for for 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: South Dakota or anything, or do you want me to 72 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: share anything for my recent experiences. Well, I'll tell you 73 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: a little bit about South Dakota. Um, if if I 74 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: still was hunting, I'd be very excited for this coming 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: week because we just got like one of our first 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: good snowstorms. Uh, and that snow was gonna stick around 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: for a while. And so up until now, we've had 78 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: some really mild weather like days where it was hitting 79 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: seventy degrees setting record temperatures. And uh, this big snowstorm 80 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: we've gotten in this cold front words in the teens 81 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, that's going to change a lot 82 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: of things. It will change where the dear bedding. Um, 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: they're definitely gonna seek out, you know, where they can 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: get out of the wind, where they get out of 85 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: the cold to those shelter belts are going to become 86 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: a big deal. And anything else where, it's gonna push 87 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: them out of the CRP and push them out of 88 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: some of those slews most likely, and then move them 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: to the food sources that you know, we always look 90 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: for in December. So I'd be really excited for this 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: coming week and you know, looking forward to patterning some 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: bucks that have not been doing a normal winter pattern 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: up until now. Yeah, yeah, ditto ditto from here here 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: in Michigan has been very mild lately, and just kind 95 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: of last night and today we've had a cold front 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: pushing through. It was in the fifties. You know this, Uh, 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: what's that? Today's Tuesday? Is that right? Um? So it's 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: in the fifties over the weekend and now today and 99 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow's dropped into like twenties. So good cold front. I'm 100 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna start hunting here again. I'm excited about that. UM. 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: I think that, like you said, while we don't have 102 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: the snow where I'm at, I do think the cold 103 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: temperatures will get deer moving. Um. Interestingly, UM, I won't 104 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: go to too much detail about what actually happened, but 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I was hunting in Ohio the past four days, well, 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: last Thursday through Sunday, I was hunting down Ohio and 107 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: even though it was warm out, um, it was pretty warm, 108 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: like fifties. Uh. I saw a pretty decent amount of 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: deer activity. UM on a late season food source cut cornfield. 110 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: UM and I saw mature bucks three out of four nights, 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: moving pretty early in the day to an hour before darker. 112 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: So um, and I'm wondering if that could be attributed 113 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: to the moon situation we had last week. Now, we've 114 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: talked moon on the wire Hunt podcast a lot. UM. 115 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: I still don't know what I think, but a lot 116 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: of people, a lot of good hunters do say that 117 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: there's some kind of correlation. Who knows, but people like 118 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: the Druries or a number of other folks like to 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: talk about when you've got a moon that is rising 120 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: early in the evening during the daylight hour still, or 121 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: when you've got a moon that's still up in the 122 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: morning before or you know, after daylight in the morning. 123 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: So last week we had a moon that was rising early. 124 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: It was rising like an hour hour and a half 125 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: before dark and UM. I spoke with Terry Drewy the 126 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: day that I started hunting down there, and he was 127 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that he thought these next few 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: days wore be really good for afternoon movement because of 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: that UM. So, I don't know if that was the 130 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: case or not, but it's just an interesting thing that 131 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I did see the sightings um that you're supposed to 132 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: see with that kind of moon phase, don't. I can't 133 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: say confidently that it is that was the case, but 134 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: it was an interesting observation that I thought was worth 135 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: passing along. Well. Another Ohio report we have this week 136 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: is from Eric Long at Drumming Log Wildlife Management. Then 137 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: we go to Alabama. From Southern Worths Outdoors is Adam Biicce. 138 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Then we talked to Gerard Cicelli from wreck get Or 139 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Sent in New Jersey, and then we go to my 140 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: home state of South Dakota and at Daybreak Ranch we 141 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: talked to Jake Gregs. Excellent. Well, I'm looking forward to 142 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: tuning into this one myself and getting the reports, and 143 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna try to take some of that info 144 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: put it to you some of my next couple of 145 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: days of hunting here because I'm excited to get in 146 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the woods and try to make something happen in Michigan. So, 147 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: unless you have anything else to add, Spencer, I think 148 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: we should wrap this one up and get to those 149 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: report parts. I don't have anything new, but you sound rejuvenated. 150 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Market sounds like you are ready to get haunting again. 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: A little different than the last couple of times I've 152 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: talked to you. Yeah, you know, I am feeling better. 153 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: I think I kind of ran myself into the ground 154 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: in November. Um between you know, you know how much 155 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: I was hunting, and then I was traveling so much 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: towards the end of November. Um that it feels good 157 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: to be home. I caught up on sleep, taking a 158 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: little time away from the woods, and then now I'm 159 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: back at it rejuvenated. I'm excited, and I just feel like, 160 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's been a tough season for me so far, 161 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: but maybe that's because I'm due for great December. So 162 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna hope for. That's gotta be it. 163 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week. Mark, Thanks Spencer. Before 164 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: we get to our first update, though, let's positive thank 165 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: our sponsors at Sitka Gear and For this week's sick 166 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: of story, we're joined by Mike Massey, who tells us 167 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: about a Yukon hunt that ended with one of the 168 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: biggest caribou in pulping Young history. All right, so I'll 169 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: tell you about a fun little hun I had this year. 170 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: It was the Yukon hunt. It was my caribou that 171 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: actually made the top fifty uh Pope and young Uh 172 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: eighth largest caribou killed with a bow in the last 173 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: eight years. So it really pretty cool special hunt to me. 174 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: My dad had passed away the exact day I flew 175 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: out into the bush. A year from that day. UM 176 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: got out there, got to camp. Here's sure that the 177 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: horses were gone. Took us six hours to get the 178 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: horses back to base camp. So the next day we 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: spiked out eight hour horseback ride setting up the wall tent. 180 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: We Uh we noticed some cariboo work on the edge 181 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: of this plateau that was about a mile away from 182 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: Spike Camp. UM. I kept going on there periodically taking 183 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a look, and uh, to my surprise, I went back 184 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: there one time and just saw this thing. And I 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen too many cariboo. I mean, I probably put 186 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: it into maybe a couple of hundred caribou in my life. 187 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: But I called the guide over here and I said, 188 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: you gotta look at this thing. Well he basically told 189 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: me to get my stuff now in very nice terms. Well, 190 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: about an hour and a half later, we had that 191 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: thing on the ground. Opt up made an amazing stuff 192 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: newher terrain. What an absolute just one one heck of 193 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: a hunt, you know, just knowing your terrain and the guide, 194 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: that's how we got this thing kill really really cool hunt. 195 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: On Mike's hunt, he was wearing sick As mountain pants 196 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: and mountain vest. If you'd like to create a sick 197 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: of story of your own, or to learn more about 198 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: technical hunting apparel, visit sitka gear dot com. Alright, and 199 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: joining us on the line first is Eric Long, the 200 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: owner of Drumming Log Wildlife Management in Ohio. Now, Eric 201 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: in Ohio, what would you say the bug activity has 202 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten. Out 203 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: of one to ten, I would say it's a five. 204 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: And the reason being is that we're coming off for 205 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, firearms season or gun season, which is a 206 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: week long, um and ended this past Sunday, and um, 207 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: you know, everything's just disoriented. Everything is kind of messed up. 208 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: But the activity, like off the cameras and stuff there, 209 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: it's just aren't to pick back up. They're starting to 210 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: be on their feet again and you know, doing some 211 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: little bit of chasing. Still so still with coming that 212 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: gun season. Uh would you say that that changes where 213 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: the dear bedding or does it make them more nocturnal? 214 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: What do you think is going on there? All the above? 215 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: All the above? Do you know the amount of pressure? 216 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: You know, Ohio, we like to think of it that 217 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: being a rural state, and it kind of is, but 218 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: it's getting very urbanized and um, it's just amount of pressure, 219 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, amount of cover versus pressure. So these deer, 220 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, they get thrown off their pattern, um a lot, 221 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: which is obvious. Everybody kind of knows that from you know, 222 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: the orange brignade out there, if you will. Um, So yeah, 223 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're just kind of yeah, they're just 224 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: they're nocturnal. They're they're um, you know, they're not really 225 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: eating where they should be eating, you know, um, where 226 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: we like to have them eat. But um, yeah, it's 227 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: just it's going to take a little bit. So as 228 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: somebody looking to counter that, what are your tactics and 229 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: for this next week or so, as those deer are 230 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: you know, coming off that gun season patients. Yeah, the 231 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: hardest thing to do is be patient because it will, um, 232 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: they will get settled down. I mean. Being in the Midwest, 233 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: obviously we've got it's been mild weather. Um, but you 234 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: know the forecast is, you know, it's gonna get back 235 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: to normal. You know, some snow, some cold what you'll 236 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: get them back on their feet, you know. And I'm 237 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: looking for those food sources. Um. I know when you 238 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: do some management, you know those bucks. You know, when 239 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: you practice DM, it's a short intense rut and those 240 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: deer lose a lot of weight, so they're gonna be 241 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: wanting to, um, you know, get their weight back on 242 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: them for this upcoming growing season. So do you feel 243 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: an influx of new bucks this time of year, um, 244 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: once they're looking for food and coming off the pressure 245 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: of that gun season. Yeah, I mean not like what 246 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: you would think. I mean, at least you know obviously 247 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, all that's regional and property to property, 248 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: but as all all you know, um, just the the 249 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: places that I've been managing and stuff, we really don't 250 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: have that uh per se you know, um, because they're 251 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: larger properties. That's why, you know, but the guys that 252 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: owned fifty acres, obviously they're going to have an influx 253 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: of new deer you know in those areas. But as 254 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: a whole, you know, it's not too crazy. Well looking 255 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: beyond this next week, like you just talked about having 256 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: some patients, So the rest of December, what would be 257 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: some of your favorite tactics you used to maybe get 258 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: a mature buck on the ground? Food? Yeah, food, you 259 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: know those deer run by two things, ladies in in 260 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: their belly and yeah, so just food, especially in the 261 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, the harsh conditions are you know, weatherwise, you 262 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: know they're going to be underfeet looking for food and 263 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: not necessarily food plots especially you know for the people 264 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: that do manage you know those sticker areas that native 265 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: vegetation that I always preach, Um, those areas, you know, 266 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: they're going to be where it's cover equals food. Um. 267 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: I know, I beat that like a dead horse, but 268 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: I see it for a reason. You know, Um, with 269 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: the amount of pressure and stuff like that that that 270 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: occurred last week, you know is dear not going to 271 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: feel comfortable being exposed. So there, you know, the sticker 272 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: areas that you know that has food value to it. 273 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: Those are the areas that kind of want to concentrate on. 274 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: But that's just my opinion. Well, this time of year, 275 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: I think a lot of hunters start to shift towards 276 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: evening sits and and rightfully so with food focus. But 277 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: do you have any favorite morning setups that you like 278 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: to use? Yeah, I mean I do. Um. Uh, you 279 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: know it's not necessarily obviously food plots, but you know 280 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: that position from food to betting area, you know, try 281 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,359 Speaker 1: to get them in that between those like that. Um, 282 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: but that's really yet in the morning aspect, you know, 283 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: from food to betting. We'll going forward. Then the next 284 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that bucket dud's 285 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to tend 286 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: in Ohio? Well, I'd like to think it'd be a 287 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: lot higher through the weather and you know the second run, Um, 288 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: the rut has been all over the place, uh here, 289 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: at least in the area that I've been hunting and 290 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: managing in those places in Ohio. Um. You know, I 291 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: would like to say at six seven eight, but you 292 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: know it's hard. Talent depends on the weather and you know, um, 293 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: we have our second done season coming up, like the 294 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: eighteen or I think the third week the third weekend 295 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: before Christmas that is, and that's gonna throw things off 296 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: a little bit again. But um, yeah, I would like 297 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: to say at six seven eight, But it all depends 298 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: on the weather and amount of pressure that people are 299 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: going to be putting forth on the landscape. So well, 300 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: good luck with what's left of your season, Erican, thanks 301 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: for joining me. Yeah, absolutely anytime. All in joining us 302 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: on the line. NIXT from Southern Roots Outdoors in Alabama 303 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: is Adam Bice now Adam in Obama. What would you 304 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on the scale 305 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: of one to ten. Over the last ten days or so, 306 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say probably around a three to four. It's 307 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: been are really hot down here lately, like it's been 308 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: across a lot of the states. Um, still a few 309 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: weeks away from the rut in a lot of places, 310 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: but some other places have seen from action going on. Early. 311 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Our deer her is just kind of very throughout most 312 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: of the states. So depending on where you are, you 313 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: may have already seen some rutting activity and you may 314 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: be three or four weeks away from it. In other 315 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: parts had a really good early gun season. Gun season 316 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: open up us on number Overber the fifth. He but 317 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: since then it's kind of been slow. I said, weather 318 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: a moon phase has really heard us a little bit 319 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: and have a really big mass crop this year throughout 320 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere that I've heard of, well Adam early 321 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: to mid December here, uh lay out the difference for 322 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: me from north to south and Alabama. What phases the 323 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: rut you think they're in and what's going on with 324 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: those buck with that buck movement. Yeah, a lot of places, 325 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: it's not even so much north to south as it 326 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: is heard by her. Uh. There's a lot of people 327 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: that hunt out in East Alabama, even southeast Alabama. They'll 328 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: tell you that they see a lot of their prime 329 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: heavy chasing activity around Thanksgiving. Uh. Up around the northern 330 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: part of the state, close to the Tennessee line, you'll 331 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: see it around thanks Giving up to probably last weekend 332 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: was the big bulk of their running activity. And then 333 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: as you move farther south, or if you move in 334 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: different pockets, you might not see any running activity at 335 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: all until late January. Um, we actually have to extend 336 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: our season in Alabama to February tenth, about I think 337 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: it's three or four years ago because of so many 338 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: late ruts and people just missing out on totally because 339 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: our senity, our season was in due January, So it 340 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: kind of just varies where you're at. For where we 341 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: are in Central Alabama, where our lease is, I'm saying 342 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: our best dates are probably gonna be somewhere around January 343 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: tenth to the Usually, my favorite days of hunt are 344 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: the six two days. Those are my three favorite days 345 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: of being in the woods, just because that's when we 346 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: see the most mature bucks looking for those looking for 347 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: those first recepting ones coming in. Being about a month 348 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: off of the best rotting activity. Where you're at in 349 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: Central Alabama, are you starting to see an increase in 350 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: signmaking as far as rubs and scrapes. Absolutely. I found 351 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: my first real heavy ground sign not this past Saturday, 352 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: but the Saturday before that, I found a couple of 353 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: really good scrape lines going through a big travel corridor. 354 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Starting to see some scrapes on the hedge of greenfields. Um, 355 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: it's starting to actually it's starting to heat up a 356 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: little bit. They're starting to be on their feet a 357 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: lot of this nighttime activity just looking at camera pictures 358 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But just seeing that sign get 359 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: laid down as always exciting. I guess how aggressive are 360 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: you then this time of year. You only hunting evenings 361 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: at this point, or will you do some morning sits. 362 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: We definitely do some morning sits. UM. The good thing 363 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: about Alabama, the kind of the positive the negative is 364 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of crops. We don't have 365 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of road road crops out there. But when 366 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: we get is a lot of timber company land, and 367 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: with that timber to company land comes big cutovers. And 368 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: after those cutovers have been done for three or four years, 369 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: that gets thick and nasty, and those bucks love to 370 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: bed up and those cutovers and you can access those 371 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: on the edges, and we have such an extended rifle 372 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: season down here you can reach out and touch them 373 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: and sit there and watch their betting area in the mornings, 374 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: and if we have to stand up for anything, that's 375 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: when you get the chances at them. UM. So we 376 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: definitely still do the morning huts. In the afternoon husts 377 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: are a little bit more low pressure hunts, a lot 378 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: of green fields um acron flats away from betting. UM. 379 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: But right now, you know it's it's still really kind 380 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: of a conservative thing. We haven't really got in there 381 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: after them in righting their core areas yet. Well do 382 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: you see whether to play a big rule during this 383 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: part of the season. Oh yeah, right now, the weather 384 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: fronts are gonna be what makes you successful or not successful. Um, 385 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: the deer aren't necessarily up during daylight unless it is 386 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: right Over the last week or so, we've had temperatures 387 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: around seventy every day and the deer movement has just 388 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: dropped off to almost nothing. Um. The people who I've 389 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: talked to that have been hunting and have maybe seen 390 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: one a day, but um, this weekend, we've got a 391 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: big hole from I'm pushing through. Actually, the brain is 392 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: about to get tough. Rain's about to get to me 393 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: in about an hour. And once that rain pushes through, 394 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna drap from a high seventy two today to 395 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: a low I'm goyne to a high forty six tomorrow. 396 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: And uh, that's a big swing down here for us. 397 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: And I think that the next couple of days are 398 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna be really good down here. We got some sun 399 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: peeking through on Saturday, Saturday and Sunday, when the majority 400 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: of our hunters are gonna be in the woods and 401 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: you'll definitely see some deer hit the ground out of 402 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: Alabama this weekend going forward, then this next week or so, 403 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: what do you think that Bluckhead Kitty is going to 404 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: be on a skilled one to ten buck act adivity. 405 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it should bump up to a seven 406 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: or so over the next week or over the next week. 407 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that it's gonna be anything just crazy, 408 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: because we're not really We are still a couple of 409 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: weeks off from the rut in most places. But just 410 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: the sheer temperatures are going to get them up on 411 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: their feet, and the fact that's gonna drop down to 412 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: the low freezing at night and those green fields are 413 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna frost over. They're gonna get up and try and 414 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: eat before the frost hits, and then after the frost 415 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: burns off, you should see some moving around trying to 416 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: get some stuff too. Well, Adam, I'm envious that the 417 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: best days of hunting are still to come for you, 418 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: So good luck to you and the rest of Team 419 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: Southern Ruts. Appreciate it. Man, have a great guy. Before 420 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: we get to our next color, they'll let's positive thank 421 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: our sponsors at white Tail Properties, and this week with 422 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: white Tail Properties, we are joined by Neil Hagger, a 423 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: land specialist out of Wisconsin, and Neil is going to 424 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: be telling us about red flags that buyers should be 425 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: alerted to when looking at a property. Well, the typical 426 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: answer for that is, you know, the neighborhood is always important. 427 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: If you have a poor neighborhood, that's not going to 428 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: be good. But secondly I might add in there, you 429 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: know the numbers is your are your goals in line 430 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: with the number of deer that are there? If you're 431 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: a trophy hunter or not? Are you looking for numbers? 432 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: You're just looking to have a good time hunting. So 433 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: those are two important things that you could do your 434 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: research and basically just find the data and if the 435 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: data says, you know, tells the story of what you're 436 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: looking for, then you would buy it. If not, you 437 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't buy it. But two things that people might not 438 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: think about that I come across on a fairly regular 439 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: basis or mental rights and perhaps abandoned septics privs, which 440 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: are outhouses in northern Wisconsin. Abandon wells. These are hazards 441 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: or potential hazards that are kind of hidden from the 442 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: average guy. If you don't look into it, you might 443 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: have yourself a bill to remove those. So if you 444 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: don't have a budget to take care of the hazards, 445 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: then be wise maybe to not buy that property. And 446 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: those are some things I definitely would look for reasons 447 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: not to buy a property. If you'd like to learn 448 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Neil currently has 449 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: listed for sale, visit white tail properties dot com. Backslash Hogger. 450 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: That's h A U G E R alright and joining 451 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: us on the line next is Gerard Ccelli, the owner 452 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: of rat Getter Sinse now Gerard in New Jersey. What 453 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on 454 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would give you 455 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: one to ten of six. I'm not seeing many many 456 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: big bucks moving, but there is a second rut going on. 457 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: That's definitely something that is going on. I had some 458 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: chasing of a half rack big eight point yesterday, but 459 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: it's been mostly small box on the move. Uh, consistent 460 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: movement also daylight and nighttime activity. So with that secondary 461 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: of rut that you've been seeing, have you seen some 462 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: more signmaking as far as rubs and scrapes. Yes, a 463 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: lot of RUPs have been being made, and I have 464 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: seen and I have footage obviously of using my some 465 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: of my products and uh activity on scrapes. It's been 466 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: consistent of small bucks and the appearance of a bigger 467 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: buck every now and then. But there are hitting scrapes 468 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: and they're definitely making a lot of rubs right now. 469 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Are there any weather fronts coming through that that you 470 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: are keen too as far as it's going to change 471 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: any movement in New Jersey? Well, we definitely have a 472 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: big drop coming. Uh. Temperature wized, it's definitely gonna drop, 473 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: and maybe in the forecast in a week or so, 474 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: there is some snow becoming, but definitely going to be 475 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: a big drop into the twenties, possibly even into the 476 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: teams depending on the wind. Show. Well, how does gun 477 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: season change things for you guys? You know, you guys 478 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: have like a six day season taking place right now. 479 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: How does that change the dear movement? And have you 480 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: been hearing of any success with that so far? Oh, 481 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: there's there's a ton of success out there. Guys have 482 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: been really taken a lot of bucks, uh during the 483 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: gun season. Um, it's mostly a lot of early action 484 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: buck going from feeding to betting area and then there 485 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, these guys are hunting on edges of fields 486 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: or things of that nature, and you know they're getting 487 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: some shots and some good bucks. Um. But there's a 488 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: lot of movement out there, and mostly due to you know, 489 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: guys getting in the woods and moving deer around, whether 490 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: it's walking in or walking out or going to drag 491 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: out a deer or something, and they're pushing deer around. 492 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: You're definitely moving especially you know on state property, public 493 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: property where there's a lot of guys hunting and you 494 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: know moving around, and cold weather has something to do it, obviously, 495 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: guys keeping themselves warm and walking around. There's a lot 496 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: of guys that do ton on the ground. So definitely 497 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: guys being in the woods definitely pushing the movement in 498 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: the animal from state property maybe to private properties. And 499 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm saying. Will you reference food 500 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: sources a little bit earlier? What are some of your 501 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: favorite food sources this time of year to focus on 502 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: in New Jersey? I freshly have a a fresh cut 503 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: corn field that borders of our properties and there's a 504 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: lot of movement of of gear in the evening coming 505 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: through looking the seed. Uh, they could tell, you know, 506 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: their bodies that their senses definitely can tell that there 507 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: is a cold front coming on and what type of 508 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: the year it is. And there's a lot of um 509 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: black oaks that I'm noticing that are falling, and I 510 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: have a couple of areas that I'm gonna be hunting 511 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: over the next few days that have a lot of action. 512 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: On of these black oaks normally have fallen completely maybe 513 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: about a month ago or three weeks ago, but they're 514 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: falling heavily right now in my specific area on quite 515 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: a few trees, and the ground has just torn up 516 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: to gear just trying to put on that body fat. 517 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's not a lot of food sources out there, 518 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: and once they find those trees, they're on them consistently. 519 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: Do you have any preferences for this time of year 520 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: as far as early to mid December, is some scent 521 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: or attracting to be using in the woods. Well, you 522 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: know this state does allow dating, which you know obviously 523 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: a lot of guys do take advantage of that. So 524 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: you know, corn mixed in some of my products, scented 525 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: products attractives, Uh, corn sweet corn scent pumpkin I've known 526 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: at this time of the year's if they attracted, whether 527 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: it be pumpkins or scented pumpkin, uh, which I do 528 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: make a pumpkin scent, and it really they really like 529 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: it a lot anything of acorn because it is just 530 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: very much attractive to them. Uh. They want that body 531 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: fat on and the lock of that comes from acorn. 532 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: So once they pick up on that acorn scent, they definitely, 533 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, want to come in and investigate. We also 534 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: have our bear season going on at the same time, uh, 535 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: which makes it a really really unique season because you 536 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: can hunt bears and deer in the same week. And 537 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: we have kind of a change of governor, so we're open. 538 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Guys are getting out there and hunting because we are 539 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: bear hunting maybe a thing of the past if this 540 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: governor has his way with things well going forward, then 541 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: this next week or so in New Jersey, what would 542 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: you say the bucket activity is going to be on 543 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. If you're hunting around 544 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: food sources, I would imagine you definitely will see some bucks, uh, 545 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: you know bucks or bigger, bigger bucks or smaller bucks. 546 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's always puts in your area, but you'll 547 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: definitely see some buck moving around those food sources. As 548 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: as things get more scarce and colder. UM on rut activity, 549 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: you'll see some. There's definitely some younger phones or a 550 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: year and a half that are coming in now, or 551 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: that are late comers. They're coming in that are definitely 552 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: going to uh, you know, attract some attention from bucks. 553 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: And that's like what I've seen yesterday. All right, Gerard, Well, 554 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks 555 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: for joining me. I appreciate it, buddy, thank you all 556 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: in joining us on the line. Last in the great 557 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: state of South Dakota is Jake. Gregis, a guide with 558 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: Daybreak Ranch Now. Jake in South Dakota, what would you 559 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been lately on a scale 560 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd probably have to say somewhere 561 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: around two or three. The main ruts tailed off. There's 562 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: still a few bucks snooping around those, but no no 563 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: real pursuit or chasing going on, um at least until 564 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: the secondary rut that should be should be starting up 565 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: here with a few of the DOE funds coming into Astris. 566 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: But for the most part, bucks are are on a 567 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, winter pattern, bed to feed. They're still hanging 568 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: in with dog groups, but but you don't see them 569 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: chasing or or really dogging. Does we just reference that 570 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: secondary rut? Do you have any favorite tactics during the 571 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: secondary road? Are you still just looking for food like 572 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: most guys this time of year? Yeah, I would say 573 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: wherever you get high concentrations, the does too to be 574 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: checking their uh I see a lot of the bucks 575 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: hanging with you know, anywhere from five to fifteen does. 576 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: And they they basically followed the dose from from cover 577 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: to feed and back in the morning. So they're kinda 578 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: they're still hanging around and still showing a little interest 579 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: in in the dos, but but not really it's kind 580 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: of a winter pattern. And and uh I don't I 581 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of bucks off on their own. 582 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: There's usually a couple of their bucks around them and 583 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: and then a few dos. Now, a lot of South 584 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: Dakota just got hit with a winter storm here early 585 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: this week. How does that change things for betting? That 586 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: you've see and I know you have a lot of 587 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: ground to look at and a lot of deer. How 588 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: does the betting change where they're at now versus where 589 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: they were a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, So a 590 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago we've had a really really good fall. 591 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: The deer looking really good going into this winter. So 592 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: the one with the weather being so nice, they don't 593 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: have to be and get good cover. They can live 594 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: out in the middle of the old wide open in 595 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: the prairie and and be totally fine. Um when we 596 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: get snow and fronts like we did yesterday. We we 597 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: got about an inch or two of snow and the 598 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: wind was blowing at times. Right before that front, I 599 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: actually saw a couple hundred deer on the down wind 600 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: side of some really good shelter belts and good thermal cover. 601 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: And I saw about seventy deer in a single file 602 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: line coming over the hill from a mile or two 603 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: away headed for that same that same heyyard cover. So, uh, 604 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: they're bunching up and and they know when those winter 605 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: storms are coming. So I would say, for you know, 606 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: it's change from deer being spread out, not if you 607 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: worried about winter two kind of in the you know, 608 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: an instant there there in winter mode and and staying 609 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: close to better cover. Do you think that there are 610 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: any other big changes from here through the rest of 611 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: the season which ends in as far as betting and 612 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: food or do you think what you're going to see 613 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: that you're doing now is going to be the same 614 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: thing that they're doing three weeks from now. I think 615 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: it'll be similar at least around here. You know, this 616 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: isn't really a hard winter, you know, winter weather right now, 617 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: and the deer don't need to really be near thick 618 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: cover necessarily. You know, the sun will come out in 619 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: a day or two, and and yeah there might be 620 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: an inch of snow on the ground, but but that's 621 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: nothing for South Dakota or or you know, northern deer, 622 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: So they'll spread out again a little bit until the 623 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: next big front um. But I don't see any big 624 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: changes really other than some of these dough fonds might 625 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: become an industrious so you might see a little more 626 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: activity of bucks, maybe cruising a little bit looking for 627 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: some of them, you know, down windsides of betting areas, 628 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: or are still really following dos along instead of branching 629 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: off on their own and doing their own thing yet. 630 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: So otherwise I would say pretty similar to this, unless 631 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: we get a real wicked storm or something I see 632 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: it kind of staying the same. I looked at the 633 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: the extended forecast and it looks like thirties every day, 634 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: maybe forty a few days. So um, you know, it's 635 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: not real what I would say, the bad winter weather yet, 636 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: so they'll be spread out again going forward then this 637 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: next week or still, what do you think that bucket 638 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 639 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: to ten in South Dakota. I would say it's going 640 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: to be right around that two or three again with 641 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: maybe you know, a few days in there, or it 642 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: might spike up to four or five if if there 643 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: are enough of those doll funds coming investrious for this 644 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: you'd call a secondary rut. You know, certain areas you 645 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: might see a lot of it. Some places you might 646 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: not see anything, for for bucks showing interest in doose 647 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: and and just focus on hunting food sources and and 648 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: betting and back and forth. Alright, Jake, Well, good luck 649 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: with that remaining muzzle or tag, and thanks for joining me. 650 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Spencer, appreciate it. And that concludes this 651 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: week's episode of Wired Haunts Radio. We want to thank 652 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: our sponsors, Sitka, white Tail Properties, white Tail Institute, Jettie Matthews, 653 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: May Ben, un Terra and Trophy Bridge, and we thank 654 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: you guys for listening. I hope you're staying warm out 655 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: there hunting this early December as the snow in the 656 00:34:22,160 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: Cold movement and as always, stay wired hunt. 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