WEBVTT - Episode 352 w/ George Clinton 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:17.040 And it's drink chests, motherfucking podcasts. He's a legendary queen's rapper. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.439 He's segreed is your boy in O R. He's a 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.720 Miami hippop lionem up his dj e FN. Together they 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.480 drink it up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:31.120 the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one sorts 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.280 for drunk back drink chess, motherfuckings, New Year's z It's 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:45.280 time for drink champs, drink up mother would it could 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:46.559 be hoping? He is what it me? This is your 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.080 boy in O R. What up is dj e FN? 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.160 And this is what the tip crazy wall yeapp y'awa 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.559 making y'all Come on, drink chaps, Let's come make some 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.560 every now and then. You know, when we do our job. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:07.680 If and um we get blessed, this is this is 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.520 probably this is beyond blessed. This is an icon, a legend, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:18.400 a tycoon. If you're born in the nineties, you're probably 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.319 your parents probably smashed to his music. You're probably born 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.200 off of his music. And in the eighties, your mom's 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:31.520 probably got smashed to his music. Let's just say all 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.399 the way to that. If you're a hip hop ear 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.200 the oldest man. When this man walks in the room, 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.360 he pulls a dust off his feet and brush off 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:44.640 his shoulders. Because I kid you not, from everybody from 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:49.560 ice Cube to Doctor Dre to Snoop to whoever, you 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.960 actually heard this man's records and thought it was their records, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.480 and then when you went back and heard they said, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:02:00.880 holy shit, that was the fuck. That was the That's right. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.560 This man is, like I said, the icon of icons. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.280 He birthed all of us, all of us at hip hop, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:13.919 we owe him. We gotta say salute. And his catalog 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.880 is so crazy. Like when we put the playlist together, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.959 it just kept calling and going and going, and you 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.880 youngest is out there thinking, y'all a one hit in 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.239 case y'all don't know who I'm talking about, we joke 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:37.359 out the one the only started out claim, so how 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:42.679 is everything? How's everything? Man? I like you guys, right, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.840 that's right. I'm doing good. I'm glad to see we 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.760 had some kind of fact. No, man, I'm glad to 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.200 be still hanging out with you guys. Ye. Man, I'm 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.400 gonna be honest man to um. You know, at first, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.919 when we started this show, we would just interview our friends, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.440 you know, people that you know, I'm a hip hop artists, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.440 just people that you know. And then we started to 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.960 you know, and a few people that we look up to, 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.320 all the people that we've never met. And when I 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.239 go through your disography, when I go through your your 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.959 life story, it's just like, wow, man, you you are 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.680 really really a legend, legend and you out here still smiling, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:24.079 still touring. Man, I've been blessing this shit. I started. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.560 I started back pre motown here. I started back in 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.640 the do wop days, when you you know, you made 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.480 they made records for your dance up closely grind and shit, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.920 you like the fire and you like that. Ye No, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.480 it was this slow basement with the links up that 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.240 was the fifties. So I started, you know, back then 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.680 at Frankie Lyman and all of that, you know, and 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.800 we've moved into the motown. They have temptations with my 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:59.320 Ales and Smoking Robinson, all those those my adles. By 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:03.160 the time when you had a hit record sixty seven, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.680 they were peaking. Motown was peaking that Jackson that just 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.200 came to the label, you know what I'm saying. And 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.880 we figured we missed that, so we got one hit 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.920 record out in fifty sixty seven, and you're located wearing Jersey. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.000 I was in Jersey at the time, Nework, okay, but 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.880 you were born in Arth Carolina, Carolina okay, and went 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.760 to Playing Field of Newark. I was worked in playing Field, 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.280 I was. I did hit. Oh yeah. So in the 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.839 process of the dudes, you know that was playing out. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.200 Jane Brown say cut your due off. So that ship 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.760 was playing out. Afros was coming in. So we got 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.839 to hit record just in time with a record called 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:43.280 I Want to Testify. Yeah, that was and like I said, 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.520 we was into the motown thing, but it was peaking. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.240 It was as soon as we got to hit it 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.000 that time. It was compared you to the Temptations. Yeah, 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.160 we were you know, we weren't tall enough. We were 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.080 so you know, we was cool, but wasn't that cool. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.760 But we got that hit record, and like I said, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:04.159 it was changing. Rolling Stone Beetles and European was coming 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.160 in to the country doing the same music that my 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:12.000 mother and father liked, you know, the blues, the twisting 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.640 shout from the Ousley Brothers music from the mid fifties 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.200 and stuff forties. They were doing that. So we realized 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.839 that we had to change. We had to change our 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.279 style rate. When we got a hit record and we 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.160 flipped it into the what Jimmy Hendrix was doing with 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.760 the psychedelic you know, the acid. We dropped our share 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.640 of ascids. We got fucked up and the next thing, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.800 you know, we was in that. We had to get 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.920 to our player. We were just listening to a few 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:47.719 minutes ago Eddie Hazel did the record Maggot Brain. So 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.320 we were a psychedelic rock band black It's like an 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.360 underground music. We knew we wasn't trying to get forty 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:01.200 five everyday, hit record forty five every months. Dell me mushrooms. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.839 I said, it was lsd yah. Mushroom was like mushrooms 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.560 the height of like the Vietnam War, the height of 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.839 the Vietnam War. That that whole movement was about stopping 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.880 that water, you know, the hippies and everybody that was 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.440 tripping and looking for you know, that far out place. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.680 Well we did that. We were lame as hell, but 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.840 we did that and went crazy with it, you know, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.159 because we thought we was cool. We did had the 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.200 best asset. You know, we freaked out and like I said, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.400 we had best get to our player and keyboard player 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.920 in the world, Bernie Warrell keyboard player, classical trained Eddie 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.400 Hazel who was like the next Jimmy Hendricks. And then 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.440 we had I'll dual singing group Billy Bass was all 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.440 of them was under sixteen. Wow wow on the band. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.720 Our band was like our little brothers. We were like 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.599 twenty nineteen and twenty and they were like fifteen and sixteen. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.000 So we had a hell of a band that nobody 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.240 else could keep up with. You know, we were doing 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.039 psychedelic music with the black Man. We went back to 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:10.080 played Apollo Theater and you know, we had changed from 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.720 the suits. They knew us with suits, and we came 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:17.520 back there with dark cheeks and diapers and nothing. We 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.360 was wearing anything. They got anything need for the handle 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.200 and like I said, were tripping, so we was extra cool. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.160 So did that come from tripping or was the wardrobe? 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.960 We probably probably would have did it anyway, but we 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.640 were down for whatever it took to make it. But 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.320 just so happened when we made it. The kids was 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.440 in charge, the hippies was in charge of everything. You know, 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.360 that was where you got your education and that and 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.000 we got pretty much educated on the road because we 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.160 played a lot of colleges and ship But let me 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.120 ask you something, right, hip hop started to emerge and 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.200 you started to see like the first people of hip 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.080 hop they started. It felt like they were membericking you. Well, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.640 you know what you feel. We got it, African member, Yes, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.560 we got If you know one of our albums called 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.240 Uncle James. If you look at the back of the album, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.680 it's got all our fans from each city from the 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.840 fan club on Africa. Bimbada name is the first name 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:19.040 of album. Oh he was like fourteen and fifteen years old. Okay, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:25.560 this was this was I mean, holy shit, I didn't 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.600 know Zulu Nation and all of that was like the 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.640 first thing that you know that we saw. You know 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.240 of that and we got familiar with the real early 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.400 in the game. Didn't know what it was gonna be. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.079 We had a friend from the Bronx. They used to 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.719 sell T shirts for us. He was sixteen and he 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.480 used to be had a boombox on his back and 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.200 he played flashlights and he was selling the flashlights and 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.000 he was rapping to the music. This was doing the 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:57.240 intermission between Boots sets and outset. He would sell so 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:03.079 many flashlights from rapping like everybody lightd it and it 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.520 was it was already happening in the Bronx in Brooklyn, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.400 and and we didn't know and they kind of hiped 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.720 us to it. And from then on we watch Public 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.560 Enemy Rock Kim was my favorite rape from Dave one. Wow, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.360 I mean all the way through, you know. Um. I 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.320 watched him do his thing and the whole hip hop 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.520 thing was it was like p funk continued. We said, people, 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.880 p fonk was the DNA for hip hop, you know. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.360 And I got a friend over that, Mark Bass. He 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.079 produced them and him's first seven albums. Oh Wow, I 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:45.120 produced Yo, I produced him. He produced my son right 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.800 back when they first started Wow, you know. So I 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.920 watched all of it, drede them when we came out 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.280 to LA. They used our name Uncle Jams Army, that 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.640 was the name of the club him in battle Cat 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.319 and all. But they was DJ. They hadn't even had 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.480 NWA yet. So we watched them go from there. They 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:09.200 world class, world class, Yeah yeah, yeah, watched them, the 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.800 whole LA dream Team and all of that. We was 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.640 raped in with them providing beats. I mean, I made 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.680 an album called Sample. Some of disc and sample some 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.719 of that because I saw it coming and there was 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.559 getting in so much trouble trying to sample and not 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:30.319 get caught up. Had it we made it available. It's 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.280 still did work. I mean the record companies beat us 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.720 book anyway, but we made it available. We knew that 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.320 we had to be a part of this because this 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.559 was the day a phone. It just changed names and 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:46.160 so we became part of that and we stayed with Again, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.720 we did one of our records tweaking with us regul 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.319 when they first started. Now you did one of the 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.120 like me and Earn thought we were smart at one time, 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.600 and we had did we sold one show, but we 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.880 sold it three times right like meaning we had a 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.079 prescription base, we had it on YouTube and then we 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.240 had it on three distributions. Show. But I'm looking and 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:13.600 I'm like the Parliament and the fer it but the 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:21.560 same goddamn I was Not only that his band was 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.040 the same people too. The same people that played in 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:32.079 Bootsie's band was the same people that played I was 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.319 like yo, he sold the same band and the girl 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.560 roof the Bride to fucking stein Parlette was the same 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.600 people again. Boots he played bans on this, he played 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.320 a berner, he played on him. We all were the 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:50.160 It was sixty was the first sixty people. I'm like Holly, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.800 sixty people we went when we went out on tour 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.960 with the Mother, just sixty people in the same sixty 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.719 played on everybody else's record. You just be the lead 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.719 this time when we back you up, you be the 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.920 league next time we back you up. Let me let 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.199 me look at the people right now. Ain't nothing new 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.360 under the sun? I mean we do. We We really 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.520 like foot Tank because they got the content they got. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.640 When when I when actually, that's exactly what I thought 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.120 of the first thing I thought of when I when 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.360 I when I said that, I said, damn got that 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:28.439 got everybody everybody with each other, because that was my 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.960 next question. When you what the bands wasn't on the 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.520 same record label? No, no, no, we was on all 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:42.520 the labels. Matter is genius a matter of fact. That's 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.480 what got us in trouble because they looked around and 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.480 we had somebody on every label, and they thought we 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.880 would eventually start our own label and call everybody back 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.319 to the label and you be the motown. We didn't 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.720 want to do that. Everybody was doing all right, where 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.160 you were. We had a bunch of young kids behind us, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.520 my son and all the other bands that was ready 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.840 to be on our Roger Troutman. A lot of people 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.280 don't know we did more Bounced to the House. Wow, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.960 that's a that's a p funk record. At the same time, 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.960 Knee Deep one Nation on them. We did Roger. He 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.880 was rogering the human body, you know. And when he 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.200 came up with Roger album, that was the beginning of 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.920 separating the record companies were so scared we was gonna 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.920 become Motown again because you know, Motown took over the 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.000 dance floor. They owned ship right, and that was the 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.280 first black ownership. Yeah, and they did it so seriously 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.160 in the industry. Was never trying to let that happen again. Damn, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.720 this is so much history. You know, I ain't gonna lie. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.880 They started drinking. I was. They started trying to split 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.720 us up Club Solder and with a lemon Yeah, all 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.599 the ship. So how do they go about splitting you 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.520 guys up? Like what were they getting? Everybody's here, they 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.000 get they come between you and your friends, right, that's 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.400 how did they separate you? If they Then he said 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.120 he ain't getting paid, you ain't getting paid, you ain't 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.720 getting paid faster, and they'd be in control of the payment, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.000 right So it ended up if they work getting in 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.960 between you, you end up having a problem getting your 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.160 people together. Right now, we're going through that trying to 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.680 make reacquaint ourself with all our friends to make sure 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.440 they get paid. I'm working with Ben Trump right now, 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.200 you know, trying to get the whole industry thing for 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.520 you know, black musicians and all musicians. Really, I don't 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.600 know if you've seen it, but Chuck d had filed 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.240 the lawsuit against Universal and he actually won its whole 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.040 like actually like because these contracts that were they were 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.720 saying that was being signed back then wasn't legal. They're 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.280 not they you know, they they trying to say that 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:48.120 they you signed for life, perfect to it throughout the universe, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.080 thene of that stuff thought. But you have to be 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.560 able to do it from a civil rights standpoint, the 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.600 law standpoint. If you didn't do it in time, you 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.240 got you know, grown out of time. They got all 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.080 those legal things they can we go with your lawyers, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.240 right so, and you have to worry about your lawder 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.440 getting paid off on under the table and all that. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.800 So we've been doing this, fighting this for like thirty 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.560 five forty years. Now we got it pretty much under control. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.680 We're getting our copyrights back because say Ben Trumpet is 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:22.720 our lawyer, along with some expert music lawyers, and we're 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.600 getting ready to get the news gonna break in a minute. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.920 You ain't gonna believe the stuff that you hear. You know, 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:33.640 songs like Humpty Dance, the Humpty Dance and all that 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.400 was out when they were a singing group, before they 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.280 ever rapped, when Tupac was dancing, they were you know, 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.480 we were playing with them. And the song they did 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:48.320 Humpty Dances, um Let's play House on a Parliament record 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.560 and yeah, Let's play House and it has been sampled 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:57.040 so many times. And one of the things that happened, 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.680 my son, you know, came up with some of the lyrics, 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.680 so he was one of the writers along with Bootsy 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.600 and Juny. They somebody in the record. Come no, I 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.120 don't even want to call the names now, but you 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.840 will know you can tell them to me. You're here 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.400 it in a minute. You're here in a minute. Change 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.920 from my son's name to my name, because there was 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.200 already stealing my stuff from a forward signature that they 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.520 said that outside that he because if it's under your 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.440 name and they could they could play already did that. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.000 So they changed it from his name to my name 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.960 and then took it. And this has been thirty five 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:39.200 forty years as so many samples of that song that 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.520 right now is getting meant to be one of the 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.400 biggest cases in the world. Like I said, Ben Crump, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.440 and it's gonna be a civil rights thing because it's, 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.280 um you talk about truly come about to a history, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.240 something you're supposed to be able to pass down to 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:59.080 your generations generation, generational, generational, and it's planned like that. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.040 Everybody had to agree to do it, you know. You 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.200 know what I'm saying. All the the record companies had 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.399 to agree. Oh yeah, you sample mind, I won't charge you. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.199 I stamp for yours, you don't. And the artists get charged, now, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.680 don't you say an artists And they took money from 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.960 the artists. I mean, I tried to get snooped. We 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.200 was gonna have a um what's it called. We had 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.639 a royalthy statement party. You come to the party and 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.520 bring your royalty statement. Go to this party, bring your 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:34.800 roalthy statement and we compare royalty statement ship. I was 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.200 you know, I talked too much, you know, so I 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.399 said it out loud before, you know, before we did it. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.359 And of course they started locking their the hip hoppers, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.280 they got them locked them, you know in the beginning, 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.000 started making them sign contracts where they couldn't do nothing 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.200 about it. But that's the way we was planning and 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.520 still gonna do it. I was gonna be part of 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.960 the movie and everything else. Got to go to the 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.240 royalty statement party. Bring your roalty statement. We come here 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.119 what you got, paid what you got, and it don't jail. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.840 I don't think get like three words. He's of my life, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.479 so I think I'm gonna be I don't think they 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.240 let me in the worried the statement party. But that's crazy. Yeah, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.439 but that was some of the things you had to 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.719 do to try to make sure you stay tight with 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.200 all the other musicians, because whatever happened where they looked 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.680 like they did it or not, it most like they 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.560 didn't do it, or if they did it, they did 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.840 it out on you know, and they were in trouble, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:28.919 you know, like me and him. He had this argument 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.280 on the show where he always always compared what do 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.320 we like more major record label or being independent. He 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.199 always picks independent. I always picked major. But when I 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.440 hear stories like that, it always make me safe. That 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:43.920 mean it's got to be independent now days because the Internet. Yeah, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.280 you know, you don't even need them for nothing but 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.440 to promote you or something. And the way they get 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.639 these followers and things on the Internet, you don't need 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.119 them for that. Some of the biggest artists they got 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.439 out there now is from the one that's got millions 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.760 of followers on the internet. They make their record on 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:03.760 their laptop. No, I mean the labels really didn't played themselves, 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.400 except for the one that's got old catalogs and people 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.880 don't know how to get them back. You can get 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:13.440 them back. They have copyright recaptures after five years, get 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.000 them back. But we're so such a threat to that, 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.080 right because you get it back. That's that's like a 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.679 one hundred million dollars maybe more. It's like two billion dollars. 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.400 Talking about all of the all of the hip hop, 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.119 you know, say Dre's whole catalogs, Yes, I mean the 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.600 Chronic Yeah, that was almost like the mothership just wrapped 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.760 over every record stoops first, Yeah, that's what I mean, 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.119 Like I said, Um, I did Tupac stuff live. I 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.040 seld we was we was, we was working out, you know, 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.480 to listener to the music, I was like, how much 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.639 money does doctor Dre all them? Like? That's why I was, 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:56.520 wouldn't you know labels like he's just one of them? Yes, 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.040 you know, but the same with the East Coast. I 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:06.120 love to say, public enemy rock him, Eric boy, I mean, 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.600 all you know what's crazy about that? Let me let 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.800 me vouch for them and saying I'm pretty sure that 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.520 they said make sure college, make sure he makes sure 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.679 he gets paid. I'm pretty sure they're saying Stop and 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.600 Dre both said that. I went on the Grammys with them, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.679 you know one time, and I say that right on 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.320 the stage, make sure that you know these writers get paid. 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.040 But it's out of the and you know, you scared 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.600 this hell. They're gonna ground you once you start speaking 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.919 up for some of your lawyer, your manager gonna tell 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:43.439 you stay out of that. Now. That's overhead now, but 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.320 eventually eventually it's gonna come out. Mean doing that time, 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.800 I was a crackhead, so I wouldn't no attention, right, 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.080 you know, I was doing what we all did you 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:56.399 know forever treating chemical stuff that was going on. Most 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.879 when you get in this business, you go through that 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:01.960 and it takes you minute to get out of it. 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.080 I ain't sorry, but ship, you know, I just maintained 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:09.040 my myself and when I did get a chance to 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:13.800 get out, got out, started getting the copyrights back. But 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.119 I had several all. I mean, I made sure that 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.439 I kept all the relationships with everybody that I worked with, 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.280 pretty cool with almost everybody, because I knew the ship 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.359 that it was doing wasn't them. You know, It's true, 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.160 you know what I'm saying. And eventually the record companies. 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:31.280 It's not even the people that work at the record 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.600 companies now because they weren't even all they were based, 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:37.760 you know, but the company have that money, you know what, 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.920 Like I'm saying, and I was necessary. It's in the billions. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:45.160 Because almost every major hip hop artists, you know, along 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.120 with the artists that I produced, like the Red Chili Peppers, 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.879 you know, all that we never got paid for any 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:56.080 of that on that big side of that. I mean, 0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:00.000 like I said, well, I got something to look forward 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.360 to rate now because I'm having fun. I still do 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.040 it right, We're still in the run. I got my 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.280 grandkids on the road in the band. Band members got 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.240 their kids in there on the road with us. So 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:10.919 we're still doing it. And I can sit up and 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.640 talk shit because you know, I get money now, and 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:16.560 if I get the money now, I know what to 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.719 do it. If I got it back then, I might 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:24.280 not have been it fun, been too much fun, you know. 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.199 But so I can always always look at it, like 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.359 I say, on the bright side of the thing, I 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:33.119 try to always do that. Fault is the easiest thing 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:36.879 in the world to find, you know, that's easy, you know, 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.199 And so that's why it's so easy to make. You know, 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:43.119 hip hop music. You did somebody, he beat up on somebody, 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:47.040 Find somebody that can talk positive about somebody good and 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.320 get that same vibe. It's too I mean, rock Him 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.120 is one of the ones that I know you can 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.480 didn't member the record he did Friends with Jody Walley. 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:59.320 He could compliment you asked to death. It's so serious. 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.720 That's hard to That's all because you know, the hip 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:06.520 hop is based on beating the beating MC chuck MC. 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.439 That's the concept. You know. You learn to do that 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.199 with a battle. I mean, we call it playing a dozens, 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.520 And I was in school. That was if somebody dropped 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.840 the glass of your mama, you know what I mean. 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.760 You got expert at that, you know, and so but 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.880 to be able to do that same vibe on the 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:29.080 positive side, but you got to have some dialogue in 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.120 your ass. And like I say, rock him. He could 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.160 do that and the akill your ass on this side 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.719 at all. Yeah, nobody wanted with him. No, But let 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.840 me ask you. So one time I had the pleasure 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:41.960 of me and James Brown, right we were walking on 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.000 the Red cost incredible. He was this is this is 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.560 parrales um. He got his BMI a water or something, 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.399 so he had two speakers and it was me and 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.480 justin timber Lake. How they put us together. I did 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.520 not think that went together at all. Right, but I'm 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.600 walking and I can see James Brown had his like 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.960 nephew with him or something. So I was like, oh shit, 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.320 James Brown and his nephew wants to lean over and 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.320 said to him, you know that's snry, that's a rapper. 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:07.920 And James Brown turned and looked at me and said, 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:18.880 keep sampling my ship. Yeah. We were too like kind 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.240 of like far away to like smack five like we're 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:25.239 on the So I did nothing, but he was right there. 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.560 I was right David's walking. Yeah. I could tell. His 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.440 nephew was like God, said James Brown. You know I 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.600 hype is a motherfucker. I'm like James Brown. And then 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.920 his nephew over way, he just turned it. He said, hey, 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:39.119 keep sampling my ship down. Do you gotta feel like that? Always? 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:44.240 Like I said, we turn yall? Yeah? Really was I Actually, 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.359 like I said, I didn't wait for him. I made 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.760 a record called sample some of the disc and some 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.680 of that Wow. So you know, early on I made 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.560 sure that you couldn't. I moved the drums out the way. 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:58.240 I moved the worms out the way. I isolated different things, 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:03.479 different variations, and we five versions of that. Eric Herman 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:08.200 lived by that nausea too. I mean, we made sure 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.400 we was connected to it. That's the thing with me. 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.200 I'm down with the next new generation. You want to 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.399 get on your nerve, the new music that get on 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.880 your nerve when you think it ain't music, I'm down 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.120 with them. Soon as I hear somebody to get that vibe, 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.600 everybody's agreeing that they ain't shit. I want to know 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.520 what they're doing because that's the next music. You don't 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.080 get that vibe and that you got. They don't pay 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.520 you no attention at all when you had ship. But 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.359 when you get somebody down, everybody agree that you ain't 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.679 was supposed to be happening. I'm like I said what 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.520 they say on your When Cardi B came out, my 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.920 family can tell you I was on not for what 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.240 she was saying. I just know that vibe it was. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.119 I can tell everybody was doing she ain't. Who has 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.000 he done? Who is? I want to who is she? 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.280 Because you can tell you don't get that series of 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.240 agreement you shouldn't do this or this ain't because it 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.280 ain't that important to most people if you ain't that, 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.240 but they're gonna be the next one. And that's who 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.639 I always picked the right ones that I always I 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.480 got a good record on. Knocked up myself on the 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:16.720 shoulder for picking who's next. I mean on their first 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:21.679 Tool three records, I was what's what's the name of Rihanna? 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.639 She did sos? I was all over that record, and 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.240 my grandkids tell me, man, there that record has been 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.160 out just the second time around, But the second time 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.600 around they blew up and she didn't stop. I mean 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:41.879 those umbrellas, but I knew because her vibe on that 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.080 first record, it had that Moretown theory on it. And 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.520 but it tells me more than it's the person that 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.280 anybody that picked certain things, you can tell them they're 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.639 not just picking this because they they had some thought 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.800 behind it. Now they had some work behind it. The 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.440 ones that worked, like with friends, he worked all day 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.600 every day. You're giving us a French story right now, 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.320 I can. Yeah, let's go, let's go. I mean the 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.120 Prince have you up seven in the morning, just seven 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.000 at night when you're on this tour. He pay you worth, 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.199 He pay you for everybody in Bean and tell you 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.320 he pay you good. But your head's gonna work. You 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:23.520 on call, you on call when the show is over. 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.240 If you want to go to a party, you're gonna 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.320 because he owned that whole day twenty four hours. Say 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.720 you say that Prince was like they comparing him to 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.440 like Tom Brady, Like even after the show is over, 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.480 Prince still want to Praca, you're gonna do a party 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.840 on practice or something. He called me up to this. 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.359 Everybody got a call that he called you to this 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.640 house and want to talk. He used to call me 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.359 to his house. You know, he wants to talk, he 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.760 wants to pick my brain. But the old house a 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.080 mini in Minnapolis, Minniapolis. We was on Paistey Park, Okay, 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.840 I was on Paistey Park. So he want to talk, 0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.800 all right, I mean, I mean, you know, you know 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.679 he and doctor ducted us into the Rock and Roll 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.119 Hall of Fame. Wow, Prince did. But he was he 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.159 used to, like I said, get his money worth. He 0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.600 had me up to this house and bend in my 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:15.200 ear about why it was. And so I was telling 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.880 him everything, and then I realized he was getting too mad. 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.800 He was getting slave on his face and read the 0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:26.640 protested women that you might get away with that ship. 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.360 I ain't gonna be able to get away that I'm 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.000 too old. They know I know better than that, you know. 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:34.520 And he'd be wanting me to go with him to 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.720 the radio station and curse amount to him. I'm not 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.920 going with you, you know, you know, telling things and 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.800 then I see him doing it. But I've always had 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.480 his back. He always had mine, you know. But he 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.200 was one of those workaholics, just like I said. Again 0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.560 and tall Beyonce them when they was Destiny child. They 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.400 worked all day long, every day and anybody that put 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.040 that kind of work in Michael results. Do you want 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.000 to see results when you can do that? You met 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.160 Michael as well, Michael Michael. Them they came to Motown 0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.960 doing I want to test about that was Jackson Fire. Yeah, yo, ship. 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:15.040 We were probably the reason they was win what they 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.360 was winning those that because we were the first black 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.600 group that was looking like that. Besides sliding them came 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.800 out right behind my song slicing them, which is my 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.040 my boy. You know what I'm saying. They came to 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.320 Jackson when they first came to Detroit, they were straight 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.280 Parliament fu del you know. Matter of fact, it did 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.440 one of my songs called I bet you you know 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:43.760 Wow now we we I made sure whoever the new 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.920 thing is, you know, I'm down with him. I wanted 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:53.160 the outcast, Dungeon family, goodym mob, organized nors, whatever you 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.800 want to call them. I was there when they always won, 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.760 like Parliament funka Deli. I was working with Dallas, Austin 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:03.680 and Dark. You know, everybody that becomes along that's doing 0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.600 something I try to be a part of or whatever 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.680 it is they're doing. Because it's it's gonna be the 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.160 new ship, you know, and then they get on your nerves. 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.000 You can tell the ones they get on your nerves, 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:17.240 you'd be like, you'd be like, damn that. But then 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:19.920 the ship is work. It's the new kids. That's the 0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.320 version of it. You just have to be able to 0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.000 move yourself out of the way. Okay, that's what And 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.200 then it becomes damn, it's pretty good, and what are 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.160 you getting out of it? Does it reinspire you to 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.880 reinspire you and put you up on what's going on? Joe? 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.200 Joe ass gonna be old and out of it, because 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:40.000 that's real. That's what you're supposed to be. You're supposed 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.320 to be old. Let the next one take over. But 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.960 some of us don't want to leave, you know. But 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:46.800 if you don't want to leave, to stay out of 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.400 the way, you know, get down with whatever they're doing. 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:55.480 I mean, you're a good example, Eminem, he merged no 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.200 matter what rap style comes in, he's still all up 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.760 in their face and you can't get room. And he's 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.680 gonna be like that because he's enthused about hip hop. 0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.600 He means that shit right. And so when you like that, 0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.840 you can say oh you old school, old school, my ass. 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.760 He'll take your cadence and whoop your hands, you know whatever. 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.680 Could You're gonna have a different cadences, a new generation. 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.760 But and you figure out what what's the theme? What 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.480 they're talking about that? I mean, you get a few 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.560 that's well on. I mean, and that mate, Kendrick is 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.080 my boy. You know what I'm saying. He can talk 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.240 about shit. Ain't nobody's gonna be able to get away with. 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.200 He'd have made that room for himself. Yeah, that's when 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:41.600 you find that exceptional new one. You know, he's a 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.320 few raid in there that talks about shit and real 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.120 shit that it may not be realpused to even want 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.480 admitted let them talk about to make a record. So 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.680 when I find those kinds of people, I'll pay attention 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.440 to them and find out what story of what where 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.000 I can sneak into that, you know, and we did 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.600 to Pimple Butterfly. I thought I was talking to somebody 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.240 old as me. That's how much he had paid attention. 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.840 I guess to his parents, who was peep on fans 0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.400 from you know, from what he was saying. But he 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.240 knew not only that he had theories for what's happening now, 0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.560 you know, so everyone's while you get a new good 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.160 one that just blow your brains out, and you have 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.520 to like really give them that space to what they're doing. 0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:32.600 You know, you realize you raised generations like two or 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:37.800 three they raised me. Yeah, I know, I'm believe me. 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.920 I'm in touch with most of them, you know, but 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.560 they have kids most of the time end up friends 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:48.800 with their kids, their kids being oh my dad said, 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.240 blah blah blah. Yeah, we was doing and what you're doing, 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.000 you know, because it's gonna be something fresh and like 0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:00.120 a half hour band as our grandkids and kids of 0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.720 mine and the other members and the banders. It's ever. 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.280 I mean, I have to setting my ass down and 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:12.200 direct shit. But they carried the hype and I just 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:16.000 organized the show. What's your favorite place to perform? Back? 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.920 What's your favorite city or state or country? It changes, 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.960 it changes, yeah, you know it was for a long time. 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:31.480 It was ansters to him, you know, but now everywhere 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.960 you can get you know, legal weed anywhere. That change 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:40.600 sometimes of change, but lots of places. We got all 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.040 our fans. We have all kind of fans my age, 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.520 people that knew it from that young kids. It's on TikTok, 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.440 you know, we get them. Also have to look we 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.600 don't have a set list until I won't out to 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.160 look at the audience because I have to see who came. 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.880 That's you know, DJ in the moment, at the moment 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.240 after like that out of town. We could come to 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.560 play the same town on different side of the town, 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.600 and different sets of people will come because you know, 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:10.040 we know who not to play the loud rock and 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.000 road and get somebody a heart attack, you know, or 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.200 we know not to borce somebody to death by playing 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.319 you know, so nothing type stuff. So we have to 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.880 really look at the audience, you know. And going to 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.680 casinos it is a new problem for us because now 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.279 people that don't usually go to casinos when we play 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.880 that they come, you know, and usually you have to 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:37.040 have a casino type older crowd before. But yeah, now 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.680 anybody that come there and they be ready to party. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.919 And then so you got to like whoa how many 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.840 of who came? You know what I'm saying, who we 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.000 got the most of? So after cater to, after cages 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.320 to whoever to be dominant, you know, and then we 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:55.319 got you know, like Atomic Dog for instance, that's then 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.640 been through all the generations, all the hip hop has 0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.319 doesn't use it the song itself ever go anywhere. Yeah, 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.360 we just did a new version of it with the 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:10.080 Q Dogs. You know what I'm saying. This is coming out. Yeah, yeah, 0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.200 you know what I'm saying. We just did a video, 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.040 and I mean it's gonna blow people in mind, the 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.480 new mix of it, the new version of it. Right, 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.560 did the same song two years ago with the um 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:28.080 what they call the the cartoon what is that, trolls, 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.279 the trolls. Yeah, yeah, the troll did that with the 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.120 troll on the Trolls movie. And so Tommy Dog ain't 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.560 going nowhere, like I said, and it's coming back so 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.080 hard when you see this Q Dog verse never anywhere. 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.080 Let me ask you a person like like my friend 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.239 Louis View was right there, right, he got the red 0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.160 shirt arm. He wants to do a record with you, 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.880 He connects with you, and he wants to remake your record. 0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.239 How does he go about that? He has to he 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:59.000 has label cover anybody's cover. Okay, you can cover anybody's Yeah, cover. 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.600 Are you doing this different thing? Yeah? Sapling and covering 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.880 is different things. Okay, the sapling you get permission and 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.000 all it coming. You can cover and do it your 0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.279 way with it. Without permission, you just have to pay 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.200 the publisher, right, you know that's the original writer of 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.560 the record. And that's what I'm saying. The writer get paid. 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.960 But you can cover anybody's record, right, Did you realize that, like, 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.240 you know, watching your stories? I watched so many documentaries. 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.160 Did Was there anybody like? All right? Cool? I got 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.720 jerked in the hip hop? Right, so I wanted to 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.520 like give the knowledge to the next younger brother, right? Um? 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.640 Was there nobody there like at that time to tell 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.880 y'all about these contracts and tell y'all about publishing, not 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.400 from the R and B side of it, really, No, 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.520 it was always everybody was always they did it to me. 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.719 I'm gonna do it to the next one. You know, 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.000 that's the one they get getting most people in it. 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:53.480 You know what I'm saying. It was done to me, 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.000 so I'm gonna get the next one. And they kind 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.560 of set you up and help you do that. If 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.160 you don't pay attention, they'll help you mess up with 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.320 somebody and then blackmail your ass with it. You know, 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.680 since you have to be careful of that No. That 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.000 was my thing is. I came up through Joe Bett, 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.680 and I made him my mind. I'm gonna do whatever 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.399 it take to make it so. I ain't really trying 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.520 to bust nobody. I knew a lot of stuff I 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.000 was doing in the beginning that they were lying into. 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.640 But my thing is just getting out there. I'll stringing 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.040 this shit up later. That's the way most people feel 0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.200 about this shit. They'll do it even if they know 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.960 they're doing something wrong. That's exactly what I did. You know, 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.680 to get there free, you're doning for free. Better to 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.640 say you ain't gonna gets you ain't gonna get paid 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.000 for first. That's really what I said, and I was. 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:40.360 It was all fun. I brought it. I saw my 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.319 first day for five thousand dollars. I knew us five 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.680 thousand dollars, and I signed happen. Oh yeah, I've done it. 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.680 I've done that part. I've done that lots of time. 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.040 No one but my thing. Once I get in there, 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:51.879 I know how to work my way right to blah 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.040 blah blood. But then there's something that just planed out, 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.200 set you up with The paperworkers are wrong and and 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.879 they changed My was actually changed. She went back into 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:07.319 that changed the documents. Put it like, Noah, not one time, 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.360 but he's four or five times. I got copies of them, 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.239 so many copies of the change documents. You know, I 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.160 paint too, Like I took some of the documents and 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.120 put it on the painting. That's all. I was doing 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.080 my best to keep this into the public's eye. Wow, 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.919 for as long as I could, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.919 So I took a lot of the documents and put 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.960 it on the art. That stuff he had. Judge said 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.160 that even though Judge did say that the paperwork was alted, 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.960 was it was alted? It was alted in anything that 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.120 comes out of this paper is null and void. We 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:44.640 got those kind of papers. Wow, My way was looking 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:47.160 at me too. Don't make sure you don't say too no. No, 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.480 I got we got we got it, we got it, 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.399 we got it, we got so but it's cool now 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.840 I'm free to telling now I don't bit got suited 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.320 for writing the book about it. Wow, you know what 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:05.759 I'm saying. Then who sued the whole Yeah, yeah, you 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.279 can get the miss in the book and they got 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.480 the book out. Brothers bo like George, Ain't that punking 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.680 kind of hard on you. I say I was harder 0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.799 when I started. I'll be hard when I get through 0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:25.160 damn solo silo. So before we get into this game 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.040 and we played all the times called quick time, um 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.759 yeah yeah, let me ask this question to be given 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.319 the flowers for people that's been living under a rock. 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:42.400 Described to people what the mothership is. Oh, the mothership 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:48.719 is out of mythological vehicle that brought us here from 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.200 the planet. Serious, I like serious called the dog store, 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:58.880 the dog the dog gun people African, when our myth 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.439 is that it came in brought the funk here. Game 0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:07.720 you know the plant? How to dance, how to dance 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.239 underwater and not get wet? How to be able to 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:15.120 dance between the molecules of water with that thing such 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.799 a rhythm that you can get out of the way 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:24.200 within water, who between the molecular structure of you know things. 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.880 That's the rhythm it takes to survive in this world. 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:29.360 To be able to get in and out of the 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.480 bullshit you have to live through. You got to be 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:36.560 able to swim through You could you could do in 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.399 order to survive here. You can swim through the water 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.879 and not get wet. That's the rhythm it take to 0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:47.400 survive in this world. So the Mothership was that cycho 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.840 alpha disco bato by arcwa douloop. That was that formula 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.600 that you needed to survive. Plus it was the vehicle 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.480 to take you back to where you come from and 0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.640 keep the party jumping. So are we in the mother 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:08.440 ship all the time. You just have to become aware 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.359 of it. Yes, it's always there. I wanted to don't 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:16.279 work until you got to open your eyes and feel that, 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.279 Oh shit, it's been this way all the time. So 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:24.080 do I gotta take masculine? I mean, it's everything is evolving. 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.360 Now you can do shrooms as legal now, Yeah, you 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.640 can do a haltful of scroos. I gotta dude you 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.560 who gave me the shroo? I mean? But there's lots 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:39.040 of way dancing, religion, chanting, managing. There's so many rhythms 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.919 that takes you there. You have to find out which 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.720 one works for you. Okay, some people can do it 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:50.279 from just gift them camp. Some people, you know, some 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.920 people are just inspired with the word, you know, and 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.080 they may not may not even live like that, but 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.480 then it comes through you. You ain't got nothing to 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.399 do with it. Right clear, your body has the drugs 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:06.719 in it already, all the dophins, dopamines, no legend, all 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.279 that stuff if you knew how to get it. But 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:16.759 when your kid got y y'all, mister George GLD, we 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.799 don't know, if you know. Our show is about giving 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:23.280 people flowers. Our show is about making our legends feel proud, 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.920 making our legends know that they legends. So many times 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.399 in this game, when you got ten, twenty thirty years 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.560 in this game, they want to say that your old school. 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.080 They want to say that your washed up. They want 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.600 to say that they kick you out. And we don't 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:35.880 believe that over here. Now, we believe when you twenty 0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.719 thirty years in the game, you just getting, see you 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.840 just get We want to give you your flowers to 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:46.239 your face, to your face. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.440 those are flowers. This is this is this is your flowers. Man. 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.640 You know what I mean? They last forever, just from 0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.919 the drink chats, you know what I mean. God, damn, 0:42:54.000 --> 0:43:02.000 make some noise it up. What's snoop set? It's like 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.719 it's real roses that are gold plated. Okay, I'm looking 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:11.320 for Yeah, snoop set it's like it's like a Grammy, 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:13.239 but it's from your people. You know what I mean. 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.560 You want a lifetime Grammy, didn't you? Huh? You have 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:24.120 lifetime achievement. Lifetime achievement. Jesus. We've been nominated so many 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.360 times for the you know, the samples and things, but 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.080 they haven't let that as a concept become real yet. 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.320 It'll be pretty soon, you know, because there's so many 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.279 So if a record gets nominated you as if they 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:41.120 sampled you, you're nominated automatical sometimes and sometimes if you 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:45.120 if you pay attention to it to be nominated, But 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.040 you have to be up on it yourself, right, because 0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:48.400 you'd be a writer on the record. Yeah, you'd be 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.719 right on it. Yeah you know. Wait, okay, continue, just 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.759 feet that you're spoking blunts? No, no, no, what these are? 0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:05.600 These are? Um you og og hit papers. Okay, say 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:12.440 you out here, duchess. You look crazy doing it? Yeah 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.880 yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's still yeah. I 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:20.600 still smoke that shit. Yeah, I'm I'm anging as motherfucker, 0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:22.920 and I know what's wrong for me too. Yeah but 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:28.040 look this looked apart, so I'm still cool. Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.520 I ain't gonna lie what it looked like. Gosher Vegas, 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:35.440 remember the old school Gorsh Vegas, but the Greenhire Vegas. Yeah, okay, 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.719 black in mouse. Okay, we want to get someone to 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.440 come in. Yeah, you want to get someone from your 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.279 crew to take shot family, one of your grand shot game. 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:47.080 It's a shot game. So you come on, right. The 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.719 New York had on you look like he ready anyway, 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:54.640 he was practicing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh you're gonna take yeah, yeah, 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:56.879 you can grab that chair to grab a street chair. 0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:03.120 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Now what's your name? Big though 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:08.920 thirteen and that's that's he's the hype man in the band. Okay, alright, cool, 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:13.400 well you're gonna be the hype man right now? Are 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:15.640 we ready? Give him a shot glass? Mister lead, give 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.920 m a shot glass? There you go, you gotta go. Yeah, 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:23.480 before you start, what are you drinking? Something? White? Right? 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:28.600 The watermelon? Okay? You mean I want regular? Yeah, I'm regular? 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:33.799 Okay now so all right, so hold on, hold on, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.319 you ain't gonna bull he a long it's a long game. 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.359 Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but you gotta keep 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.239 that one. Now, you gotta keep that one. You set 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:46.279 yourself up man a right, so sure, so we drink 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.360 with you? Did we drink with you? Though? Yeah? You 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:53.400 back there is good enough? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah but okay, 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.880 so um, by the way, let me just say this 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.920 minute interview, like I'm really in the presence of a 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:02.640 legend man, really as you came and considers you know 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:06.360 what I mean, appreciate I really like you know, in 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.880 this game, there's so many people who just you know, 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.160 they don't take the time out and just say I 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.279 appreciate you, you know what I mean, And I just 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.239 wanted to just do that before we get into this game. 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.319 I appreciate you. But I'm about to kill your hype 0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:23.560 man to get that out of the way. So when 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:31.280 he when he drunk late, okay you're ready, yeah, okay, 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.839 So it's on you. So if you pick both, if 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.400 you be political and you pick both, then he drinks. 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.439 If you pick are we giving you two two names, 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.520 two names or two things? If you pick one, nobody drinks. 0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.080 But if you say both, are neither, which would be 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.399 the politically correct answer, we think you're gonna say both 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.400 a lot because we could tell you a politically great bribe. 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:55.399 So it's not gonna work out for him. We're gonna 0:46:55.400 --> 0:47:00.279 make it. Are you ready? You're ready? DMX or two pop. 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:10.719 You're right boo that was season. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. 0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:15.480 I can feel your spirit and go like go like 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:21.120 go like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Going to the 0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:26.279 logo next time, Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, she got you. Okay, Oh, 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:32.920 this is a good one too, odb or bus markey wow, 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:42.120 odb Okay, Okay, this one is good. I kind of 0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:47.760 know where you're gonna go. Motile or Epic Records booth 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.440 most I mean it's but epic then cleaned up lately, 0:47:55.280 --> 0:48:01.400 I mean some good Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you 0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.080 why it was so great. You got to see a 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.640 smile when he said they cleaned up lady, like that 0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:12.439 was the sh a long time they got. They got 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:17.359 slive Michael and all that, lady. Okay, you're ready. We 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:25.239 went there Rolling Stones or the Beatles, Damn Beetles, God 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:29.360 damn and you knew them both and the Beatles. The Beatles, 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.239 I mean they're like they're like all we're on the 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:37.440 charge of me. Beatles is like movetown in my life. 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.400 You know another thing that I paid close attention to 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.920 their history. They were it. Okay, them and Jimmy and 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:50.520 Riggs Okay, slid Stone okay, all right, then you take 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.880 over out to this one. I thought, say this one. Okay, 0:48:52.960 --> 0:49:02.960 Michael Jackson or Prince both, let's go score hy Man. Okay, no, 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:10.040 but just say both for the hell of it. No, 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:13.360 but you know, it's crazy. You're probably one of the 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.720 only five guests because we've ever had that has Michael 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:21.640 Jackson and Prince stories. Like some of the times, a 0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.120 person might have a print story, some of them might 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.960 have a Michael Jackson story. Mainly none of them have 0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:33.160 a Michael Jackson, Prince, Tupac and Biggie story. Nobody's had 0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.279 a Beatles story. I don't think we've ever talked about 0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.240 the bleeders. Who's the Bleatles? You know what I'm talking about? 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:43.120 The black Beetles, Nigga. I'm just around. I'm gonna throw 0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.880 some extra ones in there, Okay, cool, start out or devoid? 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:50.160 A funk starts out or devoted? Which one of you 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:58.480 alters certain certain os? Right? Both? Okay? Shit already, my 0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:03.160 brother I expected sloan to each other. This is true? 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:08.920 All right, Okay, we got ready ahead, Marvin Gaye or 0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:13.759 Stevie Wonder. Jesus, we're going there, y'all gonna have the 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:24.640 thing bottle in the Hello, Okay, we might start playing 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:30.840 your band right after this. Sly Stone or Booty Collins. 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:41.160 Oh damn slash Stone slast he picked. Okay, let me 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:49.440 let me add to that. Booty Collars or Jimmy Hendricks Jimmen. Okay, Hey, 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.520 Mini'm gonna I'm gonna say over Booster there. Hey Mini, 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:56.600 all right, but you'll pick some harm. You're being honest. 0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:05.279 Red Man, I'm at the man. Oh shit, both my 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:10.960 boy I shout out, man met the man, both of them. 0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.920 Oh this is a good one. Rick James or James Brown. 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:22.000 James Brown, I'm about to take a shot. He picked 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:28.960 because yeah programmed, Yeah yeah, Now, m damn, my mom 0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:30.600 was gonna get into a speech. But let me kill 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.560 out the next one again, rock him or Big Daddy 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:37.200 King rock him. Okay, you're liking this right now, You're like, 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:40.680 all right, that's cool. Okay. If Weana or Beyonce, I'm 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:42.920 gonna stop saying this question. For the record, we are 0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:47.040 not putting black women against each other anymore. Both we drink, 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:52.920 but it did work. You're doing it in the next one. 0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.120 You see the next one that Lauren Hill or Missy 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:08.239 damn both my liver anymore? And what's your name? By 0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.959 the way, thirteen you said, am I bad? We're gonna 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:16.719 take thirteen these? I think we already? Yeah, we had 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:22.120 thirteen right now? All right? Doing that, that's why, and 0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:25.319 that's why we talked slowing down. Okay, you ready. It's 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.160 a good one. It's a good one. Snoop Dog or 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:35.440 ice Cube man both yo, get drunk? Yo. You know 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:37.319 what's crazy though. I like the way he's saying both. 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:44.879 He's just saying a mass move he smooth. Look, yeah, 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:56.760 I got the next one. Outcast or ug k all right, No, everybody, 0:52:56.800 --> 0:53:03.799 buddy relaxed outcasts o U g k oh you said outcast? Yeah? Okay? 0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:08.439 Public enemy? Who public enemy or n WA the enemy 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.560 or n W botes. Yeah, I ain't gonna I'm gonna 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:14.080 take a shot to both for that. Even if you 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.480 were the picked one. Yeah, I would have picked one. 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.760 I would have picked one. And they like brothers almost 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:23.439 like public Enemy of NWA like coach Q left n WA. 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:31.200 He went right, that's right, okay, House Party Legends, House 0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:43.040 party or harm Nights. He was in house just when 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:50.800 I grew up love you know that's my era, the 0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.759 half a Dashville they was win we used to wear 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:58.000 in high school? Was that the last Moe Red Fox 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:02.800 was in? Yeah? Yeah, but so I can come to 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.680 homem and and that one, so um you're going home 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:09.520 them nice? Yeah? Okay, I skipped the one you want 0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:12.640 to the New House part of I haven't watched it. 0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:17.080 I haven't watched it Lebron's Hot Lense Okay, yeah, I 0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:22.400 ain't seen it. Yeah, and I heard they really filmed 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:26.359 it at Lebron House. I heard I think production if not, yeah, 0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.719 I think so. Yeah, I think he almost so. Yeah, 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:32.680 that was really agreed. All right, doctor Dre or Eric Serman. 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:45.960 That's what we got, Erica about to do, new Erica 0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:49.640 about to do all at least your keys Erica. Okay, 0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:53.759 I want to ask what I don't want to ask. 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:59.200 I want me to ask which the comedian about Erica's instance? Man, 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:05.160 Now you asked, you just brought up y'all drunk, you 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.200 brought it up. So you have you ever heard of 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:13.479 Eric about us instance instance or something like that? Yeah, 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:22.400 I'm smelted, but I was scared to ask as a 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:24.200 merry man. I don't think I can come to the 0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.720 house with Eric about to do instance. I'm just being honest. 0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.200 I don't know how to have that conversation. I want 0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.759 to support. I want to support a collector's item. If 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.480 you bought it as merchen, I guess you can't open it. 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:37.200 You can't open it. But at some point I'm gonna 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:47.879 take a ship and I'll be like, let me like, yeah, 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.640 I had to ask my bad Okay, this is a 0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:57.000 good one. And he Murphy or Richard Pryde, it's a 0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:03.160 good one both the way. So I look, we definitely 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.759 passed thirteen. Now I got it all over here, I 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:07.959 got it all right. Oh shit, oh shit, I don't 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:15.120 m hm, holy shit. You got the next one. He 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:19.320 was responsible for me. Now you get it. Farrell or 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:35.480 Kanye real podcast or radio radio Today or radio ever ever, 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:42.680 whatever you want ain't enough radio. I mean radio, Okay, 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:50.239 I expect that analog or digital analog. I can't replace that. 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:53.800 That sound, yeah, that you sound? Yeah, yeah, you go. 0:56:55.400 --> 0:57:04.040 Whitney Houston or Aretha Franklin, Ratha okay, Apporcino or Robert Jenniro. 0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:11.920 Oh shit, both got that was it. That's it. We 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.520 got the last, last one, last last one. We got 0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:16.360 one that got one more. It was the last one. 0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:21.360 Everyone thinks this last question is a trick question. Me 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:23.400 and FM don't think it. We think it's the only 0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.920 time you should say both, right, the only time, but 0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.480 most of the time if we should say both as 0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:38.040 the last question, it's called loyalty or respect. Respect? You 0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:49.080 want to explain both? Yeah, okay, Why why he just 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:54.880 preferred without? I don't know, but it just seemed like 0:57:54.920 --> 0:58:01.600 a couple more ground, right, I respect. That got to 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:07.800 be loyal. The gotta be loyal. You gotta cool. Yeah, 0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:12.880 we cool. I must still take a shot to that anyway, 0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:19.600 And that is the end of the oh my solo wait, 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:22.760 so that we could get back to see at one time, 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.240 the word funk was a bad word. It was it 0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:28.600 was curse word. Right, Yeah, you got your ass whip 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.840 for saying fun funk. Yeah, I mean lots of words 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:37.960 like that. I mean, think of um, I mean bitch 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:42.320 a female dog, right, I mean, but it's been taking 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:44.960 so far out that I don't think nobody even know 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:49.160 that the connotation being that, right, you know, it's like 0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:54.000 the Tommy gold dogs coming the dogs. That's one of 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:58.840 my pet peeves that dogs with POPI man's best friend. 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.600 When you want to give somebody an example, how badge 0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:07.040 treat them treating him like a dog, or the vibe 0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:10.520 you put on somebody say bitch. You know it's like 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:15.360 so intense I'm doing them a Broadway play right about 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:19.240 that concept about dogs? How many time we got were 0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:23.480 good good? You can take bathroom breaks, do whatever we want. 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:28.520 This is a story US Custom Coast Guard dope dog 0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:33.440 nickname bust him. Like most dope sniffing dogs, he's got 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:37.040 a habit train to have the habit pick up the 0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:39.640 tracks of the traffickers and track them like a rabbit 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:45.560 up the coastline. K nine Control Substance Retriever Receiver of 0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.880 the Golden Nose Award for leading him to the cash, 0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.240 cashing in on the stash. Now he's in line for 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:55.480 his issue of the booty. Never do he do a 0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:58.520 line in the line of duty. He's a dope dohole, 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:03.280 are you? It's Custom Coast Guard dope dog, keenss of smell, 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:07.480 tracking the tail tale trails of cardtail dope boots, big 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:11.720 dope never Graham o Z kilo too low key, gotta 1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:15.520 be tons of p blow bells of lumbo while other 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:18.640 dogs are sniffing one another's tail. He can track the 1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:21.800 profit from a dope sell straight to the stink account 1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:27.360 big banks banking online, the dirty money not stinking. As 1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:32.080 the wind blows, he followed his nose. Old mac uncle 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:36.760 had some drugs ciaio, and with those drugs he bought 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:41.160 some arms cia I own. There was a bang bang 1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:43.720 here in the snorts north there here bang their snort 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:48.280 banging snorts everywhere. Old mac uncle starts a war ci 1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:51.760 ai oh, and the war on drugs. It's hell on 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:54.760 a dope dog nose. It smells where the nose goes 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:57.560 when the does close and the dealer want to hide 1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:01.440 the dope in the booty in the twat didn't they 1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:04.600 squat and make the dogs sniff. They bow the foul 1:01:04.680 --> 1:01:08.680 as they fart in his face. Damn for a shitty 1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:12.720 half A Graham undercovered knarc with a bark, took a 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:16.720 bite out of crime. Posing as a CNI dog. He 1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:19.680 bit the blind man with the cane mate of corp. 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:23.960 As sure as the dope boats float, the meatia goes comatose. 1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:29.120 Unrelated over the counter. Overdose now become drug related aiding 1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:32.800 the embedded by a lot of apprehension and indifference. The 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:36.400 bigger the headache, the bigger the pill. Y'all can take 1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:39.800 your medicine now because you're gonna be ill. When I 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:45.000 tell you the deal on dope. There's more profit in 1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:55.680 pretending that we're stopping it than selling it. M you 1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:59.640 coming who control of fame, coming the world the pill. 1:02:00.360 --> 1:02:02.160 To be honest, that sh was so crazy. I didn't 1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:08.439 know whether the clapp I say amen at one point. 1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:14.680 Oh shit, that was the play. But the whole thing 1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:19.360 is about dogs and their relation to drugs. You know, 1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:23.560 some dogs they used to test chemicals on for perfume, 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:26.960 some dogs they use for drugs snipping and you don't 1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:32.080 have to get the dogs. I have it go up 1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:35.400 your nose, you get nah. And that's what that's the 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:37.920 whole thing. We saw him doing it at this college 1:02:37.920 --> 1:02:40.400 when he was training the dogs, and that's when I 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:46.080 really damn. And so I've been yeah and like you said, 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:49.280 every time, and they have to go through that shit 1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:53.520 cold turkey. Yeah. Now, one thing that's amazing, right is 1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:56.320 I'm looking at a good friend of ours in front 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.840 of the show DJ College, DJ Collins. I think he 1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:03.920 just announced that he celebrated his fourteenth album. Sure, we 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:07.280 don't want to doubt it, but right so I think 1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:13.120 and he's he's opening um a Snipe store and um 1:03:13.200 --> 1:03:16.360 South Beast. So so he's announcing his fourteenth album. So 1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:23.520 I'm searching. And again he blew my fucking mind, y'all 1:03:23.640 --> 1:03:31.280 throughout nineteen albums in nineteen seventy. Oh yeah, over nineteen years. 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:35.360 And no, no, no, DMX was crazy in the seventies 1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:40.320 or the seventies nineteen, I know that's crazy. Yeah, I 1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:43.000 mean it's more than that problem because we was doing 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:47.720 and we were doing what to called industrial music, which 1:03:47.800 --> 1:03:52.240 is like punk rock m they because a new wave 1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:55.600 and was that in England? Like was that England? And 1:03:55.840 --> 1:03:57.720 here we did a lot of those that a lot 1:03:57.760 --> 1:04:00.800 of people just now founding out about. You know. It 1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:04.040 was like the Chili Peppers, but a little heavier, a 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:08.520 little harder really, and they were sampling records they were 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.320 doing like hip hop, sampling it with rock and roll 1:04:11.440 --> 1:04:14.439 band playing with it, you know, with a heavy metal 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:18.560 like that was a concept that was it something like 1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:22.280 like oh my god, those my boy yea, yeah, me 1:04:22.400 --> 1:04:25.200 to a lot with them too. Nobody not get along 1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:27.520 with you, just just so you know, huh, there's there's 1:04:27.560 --> 1:04:29.280 no one in this world that don't get along with you. 1:04:29.440 --> 1:04:32.760 Oh no, that's the thing we made sure. I tell 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:36.600 the band that you get along with whoever the fuck 1:04:36.720 --> 1:04:38.760 is on the show, whether we close in the opening, 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:42.200 you know, because that's everybody want to work with you. 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:44.920 That's an easy one, you know what I mean, you 1:04:45.000 --> 1:04:46.880 just I figure out would at some of them you 1:04:46.920 --> 1:04:48.840 have to stay out of their way. The ultimate network, 1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:51.040 you know, some of them. Really, what should be even 1:04:51.080 --> 1:04:53.000 say out because something people I don't think I don't 1:04:53.640 --> 1:04:57.600 me right, Um, I'm forty five, right, Um. Somebody gets 1:04:57.600 --> 1:04:59.760 said to me old man. Somebody get said to me young, right, 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:03.760 but to me for my generation, everyone salutes you everyone. No, 1:05:03.960 --> 1:05:06.600 that's what I'm saying. That's that's gets saluted. You just 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:10.280 can't held some people's way concern. What do you mean 1:05:10.280 --> 1:05:11.640 you stay out of some people with I mean, some 1:05:11.720 --> 1:05:13.880 people just have their thing that they do. They don't 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:17.680 want to conform to being friends with nobody none of that. 1:05:17.960 --> 1:05:19.959 Like Patty the Bell gets out here in the same seat, 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:22.000 and Patty the Bell said it was one artist that 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:25.040 she couldn't stand. Not I read the franklin. I don't 1:05:25.080 --> 1:05:26.760 read the franklin. She was just saying that there was 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:29.120 one artist that she couldn't stand and it was a 1:05:29.200 --> 1:05:31.880 younger artist. It was a younger artist, and and she 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:34.560 just like avoided her. And oh yeah, not like you 1:05:34.600 --> 1:05:38.080 can avoid some people that could keep keep. You have 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:40.479 to void some people. You gotta be able to read people. 1:05:40.600 --> 1:05:42.840 That's what it did. You go and they end up 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:45.320 liking you too, because they know they ain't got new 1:05:46.720 --> 1:05:50.120 no problem with you, you know. But you said Patty, 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:52.360 I saw Patty thing. I used to do Patty and 1:05:52.440 --> 1:05:55.840 knownans both. I used to do their hair really when 1:05:55.920 --> 1:06:00.680 they were like Patty LaBelle and the Blue Bell, that's 1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:03.160 what they were called. I sold my heart to the 1:06:03.280 --> 1:06:07.560 junk Man in nineteen fifty nine, sixty sixty, nineteen sixty. 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:11.560 I used to do their head, patting head, little waves 1:06:11.600 --> 1:06:13.960 in the head. No, I didn't know his head as 1:06:14.040 --> 1:06:19.160 late as the ninety seven I did in Paris just 1:06:19.400 --> 1:06:22.720 for Sills is literally had my body right now. Yeah. 1:06:22.720 --> 1:06:24.200 I used to do but we didn't have a barber shop. 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:27.080 We did stars here. Everybody came through Jersey, So not 1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:32.920 just Plainfield or fifteen miles from Plainfield. I mean everybody 1:06:33.000 --> 1:06:35.760 came through New York. In New York, worked in New 1:06:35.880 --> 1:06:39.320 York at Playboys on Seventh Avenue, one hundred twenty fifth Street, 1:06:39.520 --> 1:06:42.920 So you did all kind of stars here. I mean then, 1:06:43.520 --> 1:06:47.200 I mean Dionne. You know her husband Bill Elliott, the drummer, 1:06:48.040 --> 1:06:51.120 used to do his heir. I mean all kind of star. 1:06:51.160 --> 1:06:52.760 I can Dame drop all day when he comes to 1:06:53.040 --> 1:06:55.400 the head taking a shot just cause I got my shot. 1:06:55.680 --> 1:06:57.560 I'm taking a shot just because we're taking a hair shot. 1:06:57.680 --> 1:06:59.560 You know, listen, I ain't gonna lie, don't. I don't 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:01.880 like I think since Patti of the Bell has been here, 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:04.160 I don't think I've ever had chills like this. And 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:08.000 I got like deeper chills because I'm learning shit that 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:10.440 I like. I thought I knew everything about you, and 1:07:10.520 --> 1:07:13.240 it's like, I don't like it just keeps growing and 1:07:13.360 --> 1:07:16.040 growing and you didn't talk. I'll be thinking of shit 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:20.040 that I feeling. Got stuff. I mean for these kind 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:24.400 of shows. Shit. But let me ask, let me let 1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:27.560 me do a left field question. I got it's just 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:30.240 left field question. Um, how about a little Richard you 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:33.640 ever met a little Richard? Le met a little Richard 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:38.800 at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame myself, Eddie 1:07:39.160 --> 1:07:43.480 in the OJS. Who else? Wait? Wait talking about hold on? 1:07:45.200 --> 1:07:50.920 Hold on, hold on, guys, Oh god, hold let me 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:52.920 just let me just tell you the frost just now. 1:07:54.160 --> 1:07:56.840 I just said, did you haven't met Richard? It's like, yeah, 1:07:57.640 --> 1:08:01.600 the hold of who the fuck? Ain't like that? Because 1:08:01.600 --> 1:08:03.680 I remember that was one of the first places that 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:05.640 I've met him and talked to him. I knew him 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:08.960 over the years, but we was on something Cleveland, right 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:13.200 in Cleveland, and they were just getting it together. A 1:08:13.360 --> 1:08:15.880 couple of years after they got together and we had 1:08:15.920 --> 1:08:18.720 to go. Then I gave some kind of one of 1:08:18.800 --> 1:08:24.000 my costumes or something myself, him, Eddie, and there's somebody 1:08:24.160 --> 1:08:27.400 else I just can't remember who it was, but another 1:08:27.520 --> 1:08:32.960 one of the older guys from that era. Oh yeah, yeah, 1:08:33.160 --> 1:08:37.439 a little Richard. That was. That was little Richard jereddy 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:43.720 Lewis Elvis Presley that I started the group. And you're 1:08:43.720 --> 1:08:45.800 telling me you did a show with Elvis. No, No, 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:47.960 I didn't do the show with Elvis, but I tried. 1:08:48.000 --> 1:08:50.360 I tried to write songs from him. What's your take 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:53.120 on Elvis. You know, there's all this mixtapes. Some people 1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:55.120 would be like, he stole our ship. No, I mean, 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:57.240 did you want people to do your ship? You want 1:08:57.280 --> 1:08:59.360 people to cover your records. I mean that's what song 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:01.800 writing this for. You want somebody else to do it. 1:09:02.040 --> 1:09:03.559 Then he might have did it too soon. He got 1:09:03.680 --> 1:09:06.240 more publicity than you. But that's the game you're in, 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:10.400 you know. Yeah, I mean, here's just it was just 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:13.759 what was happening. And a lot of pop stations wouldn't 1:09:13.760 --> 1:09:15.760 play R and B versions of it, but they play 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:22.639 the Patty um Elvis is was pat Boom. He did 1:09:22.720 --> 1:09:25.560 a lot of our stung at the same time, the 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:28.280 black artist would have him out. Now that hurts you feeling. 1:09:29.160 --> 1:09:32.600 Wait wait I'm saying I mean that's really wouldn't it 1:09:32.640 --> 1:09:36.360 be just straight racist at that point? All this is racist? 1:09:36.800 --> 1:09:44.360 I mean, homes Over sounds like, I mean, the whole 1:09:44.479 --> 1:09:47.479 systems is that. I mean, we're still trying to evolve 1:09:47.560 --> 1:09:51.280 out that. But everything has been that trying to you know, 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:54.280 even and I come on out of it and evolve 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:57.680 into we're fighting for them. But yeah, that's what it was. 1:09:58.120 --> 1:10:00.719 I mean that, but you know, it was just it's normal. 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:04.080 Then it's normal then, but it's not as bad as 1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:06.080 it was. Then. As soon as you got to hit 1:10:06.080 --> 1:10:09.519 the record, the pop stations can find somebody to do 1:10:09.640 --> 1:10:13.479 it and they play theirs. Now that that really going 1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:15.840 to you said, as soon as you had to hit record, 1:10:15.880 --> 1:10:19.000 the pop stations will get but they wouldn't. Somebody would 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:23.800 could cover, and they played their version first because that 1:10:23.920 --> 1:10:25.720 was the way they knew could work in that And 1:10:26.120 --> 1:10:28.519 and let me just let say the act that's what 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:31.360 Elvis was doing. But yeah, I mean that they were 1:10:31.400 --> 1:10:34.720 the first d like when some of the first song, Yeah, 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:38.040 that's what he was doing. Wow, be done in New York. 1:10:38.840 --> 1:10:41.599 Murray the Kay who was out of Brooklyn. He used 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:44.840 to have shows with everybody on it and be RMB 1:10:45.120 --> 1:10:48.840 things black and white and pop and everything. Before the 1:10:48.960 --> 1:10:52.800 stations broke themselves up into playing R and B pop, 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:56.439 everybody's tried to get their own niche that's when it's 1:10:56.439 --> 1:10:59.519 separated into the real hard thing where you have to 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:02.640 cross over to get to the pop station and get 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:05.479 a hit regular. But still was in the hood only 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:09.360 you know, you had to go through that until the 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:12.519 underground stations, which was the FM stations at the time, 1:11:12.920 --> 1:11:18.439 what WAYM was the main AM was and FM was 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:21.519 nobody was on FM but sucking up our whole childhood 1:11:21.600 --> 1:11:28.719 right now. I mean just like jazz was jazz, gospel, rock, 1:11:29.680 --> 1:11:32.720 heavy I mean not heavy mail, but rock underground, not 1:11:32.880 --> 1:11:34.800 you ever just pop rock. They couldn't get on the 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:37.640 on the on the underground station. They were the only 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:41.680 ones that liked Fmcuse FM is bigger FM, bigger thing. 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:45.560 Big AM was the hood you right a Crosstown the 1:11:45.680 --> 1:11:48.840 station change on you as soon as you get across town. 1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:56.960 And another and then seventies, I mean FM started to 1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:59.439 become BLS. Prob was one of the first in New 1:11:59.520 --> 1:12:03.439 York to start becoming playing regular which is the first 1:12:03.640 --> 1:12:06.680 I think had the hip hop show. Yeah, I mean 1:12:07.120 --> 1:12:09.840 w w r L was the other stations the magic 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:12.520 it played. It was the pop version. But when BLS 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:14.840 come out, it was the peg station and plus they 1:12:14.920 --> 1:12:18.439 sounded better. It was in stereo. AM wasn't in stereo, 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:23.120 you know, wow, you AM was just two speakers playing 1:12:23.160 --> 1:12:25.320 the same thing. So was it just because AM was 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:27.360 always just first and then FM was the new thing 1:12:27.400 --> 1:12:31.120 that was Both AM stations had an FM station. They 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:33.400 had both of them, but nobody just listened to them. 1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:37.400 Nobody had no stereo radio since it was what they 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:40.240 were listening one. It wasn't ready for FM. Ye, I 1:12:40.320 --> 1:12:42.920 mean they would big a station, but you didn't get 1:12:42.960 --> 1:12:47.680 that that stereo with the music travelical right, And that 1:12:47.800 --> 1:12:52.360 became popular when Jimmy Hendricks came out, the Beatles came 1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:54.200 out and all those people that started playing with it, 1:12:54.360 --> 1:12:56.280 mixing it like mixing it like then when you started 1:12:56.360 --> 1:13:00.840 hitting ship running around, and then film became saw it 1:13:00.960 --> 1:13:06.000 becoming popular in the seventies. Wow, I mean groups like 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:09.400 James Brown. To us, it was always AM. It was 1:13:09.400 --> 1:13:11.400 straight a M. You know, that's why I was such 1:13:11.520 --> 1:13:14.599 good dance music. You know James Brown's song we should 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:17.880 call him two for nineteen seven because it was that tight, 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:21.360 you know, real tight dance music. You know you didn't 1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:23.320 want to You couldn't listen to the album of that, 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:25.880 not even it's hard to do that. Our first records 1:13:26.120 --> 1:13:28.360 you get on your nerve all that banging, But when 1:13:28.479 --> 1:13:30.240 FM come in you can get the colors of the 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:34.280 stereo and stuff. Then you actually appreciate it. Let me 1:13:34.360 --> 1:13:36.600 let me ask you real quick, is there something to 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:39.439 the idea that They said that a lot of music 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:43.839 popped off in the seventies, late sixties, in early seventies 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:46.439 because of the soldiers coming back from Vietnam. What they 1:13:46.479 --> 1:13:48.800 were listening, that's what That's what we played too. When 1:13:48.840 --> 1:13:52.439 we did Maggot Brain Free your Mind. You asked for 1:13:52.560 --> 1:13:55.960 following America, he's just young. Those were the songs that 1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:59.080 the soldiers came back sin that helped them through through 1:13:59.400 --> 1:14:01.519 through the people we were playing to the war. I mean, 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:04.800 we was getting that from the rocks groups, you know 1:14:04.920 --> 1:14:07.960 who from Europe who was talking about that stuff. So 1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:10.960 we peeped that and we were able to do it. 1:14:11.400 --> 1:14:17.960 America said jump provocative type concept like biological speculation, you know, 1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:20.639 stuff like that. I was saying stuff that I knew 1:14:20.640 --> 1:14:24.240 it was political or social. You're not not trying to 1:14:24.280 --> 1:14:28.280 be no preacher. I always avoided that. You know, people 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:30.240 want to. We did it just to bring it up 1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:32.840 to make you think it was like more like what 1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:36.920 is because we say some absurd things that I wasn't into, 1:14:37.320 --> 1:14:40.880 but just I know that people are into. But we 1:14:41.040 --> 1:14:45.479 do it just because for the shot value. Just so 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:49.040 what if this was the case. But there's somebody that's 1:14:49.040 --> 1:14:52.320 saying this, so we would mirror what the street is saying. 1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:56.000 That's what art do. Aren't usually mirror what the society 1:14:56.160 --> 1:14:59.439 is talking about what they're doing, And you ain't the artist. 1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:01.720 It's just this is what we see, this is what 1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:05.080 we're reported them. That's hip hop came along and it 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:08.000 was doing the same thing with the same concept of 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:13.519 playing the dozens. It's that it doesn't into news. That's 1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:17.400 what I mean. Even say in WA I was I 1:15:17.560 --> 1:15:20.120 was sold on New York Rep. I wasn't Compton. I wasn't. 1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:24.320 But I wasn't even into the West Coast being you know, 1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:27.439 hardcore gangster rep. That didn't to me. It was like that. 1:15:27.520 --> 1:15:29.439 But they was into you being hard hook Yeah, but 1:15:29.920 --> 1:15:31.640 they headed out of you. They had grass in the 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:34.160 front yard and both parents home. Yeah, I'm from the 1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:37.960 church with concrete everything. He had to be in the 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:43.560 projects to be that kind of so vividly to me, 1:15:43.720 --> 1:15:46.840 that's what that changed. The truth. They was telling the 1:15:46.920 --> 1:15:50.040 news of what was going on, and I thought, Compton, 1:15:50.080 --> 1:15:52.960 I'm like that, say, no, ghetto, this isn't a cute 1:15:53.000 --> 1:15:56.200 to me. I'm New York and the projects on frist 1:15:56.200 --> 1:15:59.439 Street and New Ork Fort Green projects in Brook. Yeah, 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:02.519 that was hard, hard copy square more but sure enough 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:06.280 that it was like was popping off. And to me, 1:16:06.800 --> 1:16:09.280 I was beginning to be more afraid of being there, 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:12.800 you know, because I ain't no more than somebody shooting 1:16:12.800 --> 1:16:15.960 at you and too scared to you know, just just 1:16:16.080 --> 1:16:18.599 shoot them. And that's the way it was. They weren't 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:23.320 nobody wouldn't verstly being gangsters. That was just what was happening. 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:27.360 And New York it was almost over by the time 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:29.920 it was happening that that police are tell you, man, 1:16:29.960 --> 1:16:32.040 don't make don't blow my job. Man, come on to 1:16:32.120 --> 1:16:33.880 take that. I know, you get lost your job and 1:16:33.960 --> 1:16:37.720 problemlah blah, you know, but they get your break. It 1:16:37.920 --> 1:16:40.920 was hard as hell in la you wouldn't get no breaks. 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:45.600 Yeah right, but um so let me ask you. You 1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:48.479 went you went fishing one time in the Bahamas and 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:52.519 you saw aliens. I'm going fishing lots of time. Nobody 1:16:53.240 --> 1:17:00.400 ain't seen the aliens has seen U. Well, ufo, how 1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:02.320 how to put it me? Neither? I mean right now 1:17:02.400 --> 1:17:09.200 it's the government is saying this crest. I'm so convinced 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:13.120 of that. I'm okay with the crazies down any day 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:15.120 now I'm ready for that to jump off. That would 1:17:15.120 --> 1:17:17.640 not surprise me. But I'm saying, what happened. He's time 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:22.160 about boots. And I was riding in Toronto and we 1:17:22.280 --> 1:17:26.439 saw like a laser been dead the middle of the day, 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:29.439 nice right laser in the daylight. That's a weird look, 1:17:29.520 --> 1:17:34.160 that's thing right. Yes, we saw it hit the ground 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:36.280 by them, a couple of blocks in front of us. 1:17:36.640 --> 1:17:39.040 We got there, didn't see. I said, what was that? 1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:42.160 He said, I don't know. So we drove another three minutes. 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:46.200 The same thing came down through. Now we're off the highway. 1:17:46.240 --> 1:17:48.920 We're on us a secondary street. Come right down through 1:17:48.920 --> 1:17:51.760 the trees, two blocks in front of us. We see 1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:53.160 it right out of the sky and right through the 1:17:53.200 --> 1:17:55.400 trees and hit when he hit the ground and looked 1:17:55.439 --> 1:18:00.360 like electricity splatting is popping. Okay, we see that landing 1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:02.200 on the same side of the street we were on. 1:18:03.240 --> 1:18:06.040 Next one landing in the same block. Now in the 1:18:06.120 --> 1:18:09.280 same on the other side of the street. And I 1:18:09.439 --> 1:18:11.920 reached to the radio, you know, to turn down to look. 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:14.840 And then the third one hit the car on the 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:18.600 passenger side. It beat it up like you know, like 1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:26.240 mercury and or thermometer, you know what they look and 1:18:27.040 --> 1:18:31.240 just dribble over the side of the car. Yes, Now, 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.400 this is only like three minutes from where we just 1:18:34.560 --> 1:18:38.120 seen the lazer. I mean when it looked like a 1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:45.080 laser when we hit the car. Our attention for like years, 1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:47.720 I didn't think about this for years, was on the 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:51.160 fact that the street lights were going down. They were 1:18:51.240 --> 1:18:54.120 demon they were demmon. They you know, it was like 1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:56.840 the street lights was home and they were going off. 1:18:57.320 --> 1:19:02.439 The car lights was doing. That was demming. You could 1:19:02.439 --> 1:19:05.280 see way down two blocks in front of the lights 1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:07.519 going out and boots you driving say what is it? 1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:12.040 I don't get the funk out of here. We get 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:15.160 three blocks and this and looked the left. You can 1:19:15.200 --> 1:19:18.799 see street lights on and it looked like traffic was moving. 1:19:20.000 --> 1:19:25.760 We get to the house, parks in the driveway and 1:19:26.160 --> 1:19:28.439 don't say shit. We said that for like three minutes 1:19:29.080 --> 1:19:33.320 and my daughter walks out, Wow, y'all look like y'all 1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:37.600 seen the ghost. And he said, she said, you know, 1:19:37.720 --> 1:19:40.639 give me a hug. I'm going to bed now. Remember 1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:44.080 I told you the weirdest thing about seeing it the 1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:47.200 first time, that was in daylight. Right, this is only 1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:49.960 like five minutes away from when that Now it's dark. 1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:53.640 Now it's dark and she's going to bed. I mean 1:19:53.680 --> 1:19:57.560 it's seven o'clock. We didn't not think about that for 1:19:57.640 --> 1:20:00.960 at least ten years. You gotta duct it. We did 1:20:01.120 --> 1:20:04.240 not think about the fact that that time discrepancy from 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:06.840 the first time he saw it to the street lights 1:20:06.880 --> 1:20:08.720 going out to we're going to be I had the 1:20:08.760 --> 1:20:11.559 car boots. I'm on the road years later and said, 1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:14.160 when I thought about it like that, I said, what 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:17.400 what time did we get to Toronto? He said ten 1:20:17.560 --> 1:20:20.439 or so in the morning. I said, great, Um, when 1:20:20.439 --> 1:20:23.960 we saw the light the first time that it was daylight? 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:27.000 I said it was daylight, right? He said, yeah, it 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:29.240 was daylight. It was weird. That's what made it weird. 1:20:29.840 --> 1:20:33.360 That was in daylight. There's only three blocks from there 1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:38.040 to where the light hit the car. I say, why 1:20:38.200 --> 1:20:41.840 was the street lights going out? And why? And why 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:47.840 was was Rolla going to bed at seven and night? 1:20:48.360 --> 1:20:52.559 Is it? Man? Fuck you? What happened to that time? 1:20:54.400 --> 1:20:57.760 We never thought about that? Just classic abduction story. And 1:20:57.920 --> 1:21:02.240 I gotta ask was there any rugs involved? No? No. 1:21:03.840 --> 1:21:06.680 The thing is we had just come from Detroit from 1:21:06.720 --> 1:21:09.600 the studio had to come to custom because you know 1:21:09.720 --> 1:21:15.000 Detroit and um Canada, right yea yeah, customer a format, 1:21:15.120 --> 1:21:16.960 so we had to come to custom. We ain't come 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.080 through the custom and no drugs yet the fact I 1:21:19.120 --> 1:21:20.800 had to go look for something. After that, You're like, 1:21:22.080 --> 1:21:25.320 that should sucked up so much. I respect that. That's 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:30.200 that's that, and that was Oh yeah that I believed 1:21:30.240 --> 1:21:33.439 in that. Anyway, I'm gonna start trek freak to all 1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:36.559 of that. I'm believing any you believe in ghost to, right, 1:21:36.600 --> 1:21:39.760 you believe in aliens. I believe in ghost to and 1:21:39.880 --> 1:21:42.439 I believe I mean one of them ships, one of 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:44.600 them sits. I mean I'm interested. I'm interested in it. 1:21:45.439 --> 1:21:48.120 Wow man. Yeah, But like I said, so, you know, 1:21:48.240 --> 1:21:50.559 remember the time you was fishing and you saw aliens 1:21:50.600 --> 1:21:54.040 and Bahamas. I remembers nor I seen the story where 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:59.960 you're describing where you was fishing. You've been seeing eliots 1:22:00.040 --> 1:22:03.479 a lot. He hadn't seen the aliens though he's seen 1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:07.439 he's seen like that situation. Well, they didn't get to 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:10.000 see who was doing. He didn't see Homie and that 1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:15.760 believe that he believed that ship. Hell yeah. So right 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:17.760 now with the government saying all this stuff. They're saying 1:22:17.800 --> 1:22:20.200 that must be wild after you've seen something like that 1:22:20.280 --> 1:22:23.760 in the past. I'm just waiting. Didn't convince of that ship. 1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:27.240 You know, you know Puerto Rico, they say got the 1:22:27.280 --> 1:22:30.640 biggest alien shit going on. I'm not lot they got. 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:32.320 They got a one coming out the water. They got 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:39.320 a big thing. No, bro is not real, man, he 1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:49.519 is you when you get too drunk. Maybe maybe No, No, 1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:52.400 I want to actually want to go. I couldn't even 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:54.040 I was trying to go through a bunch of the 1:22:54.120 --> 1:22:58.519 records as sampled sampled you guys, und records they sampled you. 1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:05.360 Is that it's like it's more by now twenty six 1:23:05.479 --> 1:23:08.519 or twenty seven. But let's just say some of some 1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:10.400 of the songs in hip hop and this is just 1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:14.320 some This doesn't even scratch the surface. Me myself an idea. 1:23:14.400 --> 1:23:19.200 I saw two versions of it. Dre Day Dre Who 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:23.479 am I snooped? Come on, come on, tentent dre Day 1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:28.479 Dre day tent. I mean I'm probably the worst one day. 1:23:28.560 --> 1:23:33.599 That was not good. No, it was better than your rendition. Okay, 1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:35.960 we'll get back to that. How to Survive in South 1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:42.519 Central ice Qua Classic gold Digger EPMD, Stranded on Death Road, 1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:49.599 dre Funking lesson x Clan. You got Strata Compton, which 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:52.560 I said earlier n W, which is crazy. I know 1:23:52.680 --> 1:23:54.680 you got sold Eric B and rock Him. We had 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:59.040 twelve songs in the on that album straight of a 1:23:59.080 --> 1:24:02.120 couple of the movie be oh in the movie twelve, 1:24:07.920 --> 1:24:09.880 A couple more, A couple more you got, uh, I said, 1:24:10.080 --> 1:24:12.519 I know you got sold very being rock Camp, Blue Cheese, 1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:18.000 Umc's Static by Jay Rue, the Damager Teacher, Teacher Slick Rick. 1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:19.760 And I mean I could keep going, to be honest, 1:24:19.800 --> 1:24:22.000 you keep going, keep going. No, No, I stopped. I stopped. 1:24:22.040 --> 1:24:23.560 I was writing them all. I was like, this is 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:25.160 I was going through records that I love, and I 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:27.200 was like, oh man, oh man. I started writing him 1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:29.840 that that that is um And I mean, and he's 1:24:29.840 --> 1:24:32.640 recorded records with Cube and Poking. I'm sure there's a 1:24:32.680 --> 1:24:35.800 lot more than that. But him Brown, we did a 1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:38.599 lot together. You did. We did In a matter of fact, 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:42.200 we did an album together, Chilling Up the Pee. It 1:24:42.280 --> 1:24:44.880 was like when they last one, were you close with shock? Yeah? 1:24:45.200 --> 1:24:47.200 And it's crazy because he him he was in Tampa 1:24:47.320 --> 1:24:49.640 and you live in Tallahassee. Now we did a lot 1:24:49.720 --> 1:24:53.280 of stuff together him, him and Pee Wee did stuff 1:24:53.320 --> 1:24:56.760 on our records too. He was really tired. You know. 1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:59.759 It sucks the same one they were. They were crapping, 1:25:00.200 --> 1:25:04.719 they had a singing group. He said, And you remember 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:06.920 the name of that man? No, I don't. I don't. 1:25:07.880 --> 1:25:11.000 I do remember that pop was standing stuff? Yeah, yeah, 1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:14.160 I do remember. Was he a good jazzer? Huh? Was 1:25:14.240 --> 1:25:18.760 he a good jazzer? Part that area? Yeah, the flytop 1:25:19.040 --> 1:25:21.760 it's gonna be Yeah, Well, what was your take since 1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:24.280 you knew him from back then to till later on? 1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:29.519 It was intelligent dude, that and I mean, and they 1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:35.040 had such good, good material as Digital Underground, you know 1:25:35.200 --> 1:25:38.479 that it was. It was created, very creative, and he 1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:42.040 was right for the time, whatever that time was. He 1:25:42.280 --> 1:25:45.320 was the one that that that thing came through and 1:25:45.520 --> 1:25:50.360 whatever it was. He had to write temptful for whatever 1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:52.559 it was, you know, because I just tell them, men, 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:56.599 be careful, man, he's police. They gonna get you there. 1:25:56.760 --> 1:25:58.439 You can't just shoot him in the booty and get 1:25:58.479 --> 1:26:01.000 away from after he shot, though you got out of it. 1:26:01.200 --> 1:26:06.120 I'd be looking over my shoulders now own. And that's 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:08.200 when he got in trout with the girl and you 1:26:08.280 --> 1:26:12.320 know everything. It was just scary but m and it 1:26:12.400 --> 1:26:14.479 had it fast too, because people it seems like a 1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:16.560 long time, but it all happened pretty fast, you know. 1:26:16.680 --> 1:26:20.479 But that era, I didn't trust nothing, you know, the 1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:24.120 government or what was going on, because I know they 1:26:24.200 --> 1:26:26.639 was trying to get rid of hip hop was more 1:26:26.680 --> 1:26:30.080 of a danger getting along, you know, like if East 1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:32.519 Coast and West Coast would have got together, that was 1:26:32.560 --> 1:26:36.920 a dangerous thing for the country. The authority was concerned, 1:26:37.400 --> 1:26:39.559 and I thought a lot of people are gonna get 1:26:39.560 --> 1:26:43.080 played with that one. I was really worried about. Are 1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:46.559 you with East Coast? What I mean, that wasn't a concept. 1:26:46.640 --> 1:26:49.080 It wasn't a thing, you know. To me, everybody's got 1:26:49.160 --> 1:26:51.720 to be together, right And the thing about you is 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:57.120 your music is so bright and so so universal. I 1:26:57.200 --> 1:27:01.240 don't think I think you're one of those guys that 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:05.160 people think you're from out of the planet. Oh you 1:27:05.200 --> 1:27:07.400 know what, my man used to my band, just trying 1:27:07.400 --> 1:27:10.120 to get me to be a preacher. But that was 1:27:10.160 --> 1:27:13.920 the asset that was I read a few books that 1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:18.960 had some positive ship in it, and that ship, what 1:27:19.439 --> 1:27:22.519 did you replease do you remember. I mean I look 1:27:22.560 --> 1:27:25.120 at them now, they were just like shit you get 1:27:25.200 --> 1:27:29.439 on a magic store something you know that had that 1:27:29.600 --> 1:27:35.360 positive everybody uses it. Every organization was used as certain prisons, 1:27:35.400 --> 1:27:39.440 and and they worked any real but nobody really like affirmations. 1:27:39.439 --> 1:27:44.320 And but I was on ascid and I believe it, 1:27:45.200 --> 1:27:49.800 and and to me it actually worked now that I see, 1:27:50.080 --> 1:27:53.120 I avoided a lot of shit, but not being upset 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:56.040 that shit because the actually I was able to like 1:27:56.240 --> 1:28:00.240 write that's I ain't got nothing in any about me. 1:28:00.680 --> 1:28:02.640 I mean, I knew how to skate around it, and 1:28:03.360 --> 1:28:06.080 I pick out the best size of shit, and somebody 1:28:06.080 --> 1:28:08.920 I can always fund the positive side of it and 1:28:09.040 --> 1:28:10.640 the rest of it. I don't need that ship. If 1:28:10.680 --> 1:28:12.600 I ain't got to it, don't bother me that they 1:28:12.720 --> 1:28:14.880 do it. I just stay have that part, and I 1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:17.840 get the part that I need special musician. You can't 1:28:17.880 --> 1:28:20.880 do the wrong. If you're great, I want to music 1:28:20.960 --> 1:28:23.360 to the other bullshit. I ain't got to sleep with you. 1:28:24.080 --> 1:28:25.680 So the ego and all of that, you're like, as 1:28:25.720 --> 1:28:27.840 long as you bread as time as you can play half. 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:30.799 You need an ego to do this business. You absolutely 1:28:30.840 --> 1:28:32.200 needn't to be an artist and any of you just 1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:34.759 have to know how to rule that motherfuck and manage 1:28:34.800 --> 1:28:36.479 it and you go. It'll work without you if you 1:28:36.520 --> 1:28:38.040 don't let it. The egos the only thing that gives 1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:40.200 you the confidence to the forward to go out in 1:28:40.240 --> 1:28:43.320 front of people. Yeah, you just have to. I'm a ham, 1:28:44.360 --> 1:28:46.880 you know. Put as simple as that. I'm a ham, 1:28:47.040 --> 1:28:49.240 So I know how. I'll take pictures all day. I 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:52.360 can show off like a muff on stage, but I 1:28:52.560 --> 1:28:55.360 know better than that ship believing that I'm all that. 1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:57.840 When I feel like I need to say that, I 1:28:58.000 --> 1:29:00.760 go in the bathroom. You're a bad the fucker you. 1:29:00.920 --> 1:29:06.960 This isn't flushed the toilet. That ship when you come out, 1:29:07.439 --> 1:29:15.479 when you come out, there's gonna be somethuther tell you 1:29:15.600 --> 1:29:18.640 ain't shit, you know, and you got to deal with it. 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:25.760 Give you your feelings hurt right? Nah? Nah? You know 1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:28.760 you know what. Like I said, you know, when we 1:29:28.920 --> 1:29:31.800 locked this interview down, I just kept researching you, research you. 1:29:32.200 --> 1:29:36.559 And the one thing that I noticed is artists throughout 1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:40.519 the years sometimes they smile get demo and they don't. 1:29:40.720 --> 1:29:43.760 They don't they smile, doesn't seem the same. One thing 1:29:43.800 --> 1:29:47.120 about you is your smile got brighter man when pandemic 1:29:47.240 --> 1:29:50.240 came down. You know, I've been like the Payton. I've 1:29:50.280 --> 1:29:52.840 been doing that for you know, Douln for a long time. 1:29:53.320 --> 1:29:56.760 The pandemic came out, we need nothing to do. My 1:29:56.880 --> 1:30:00.040 way bought me a bunch of canvases I got I 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:03.160 didn't in the house, and I started painting. I've been 1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:06.760 doing so good with selling art lately. I mean, that's 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:08.719 your art, right, We just did that a few minutes 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:13.000 ago for you. I'm taking that home, Jonah, Jonah, how 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:17.760 are you jacking all of us? But that's what that's 1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:20.840 that's what I mean. And that's like I didn't even 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:23.160 repeat that. I thought that was like somebody writing graffiti, 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:26.280 because you know he was doing graffiti. You know, you know, 1:30:26.360 --> 1:30:28.560 we racist and shit. So like I thought, it's a 1:30:28.600 --> 1:30:31.479 Spanish guy just here, just wrong, it was. It wasn't 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:35.519 a Spanish guy as well. Oh that guy right there 1:30:35.760 --> 1:30:38.360 all right, he's around him in Miami. He painted up 1:30:39.240 --> 1:30:40.720 so you're told him to do this and he just 1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:45.040 did it. He been he was doing down. So this 1:30:45.240 --> 1:30:49.759 is the funk is we got full fact art bullies 1:30:51.000 --> 1:30:53.719 Jonah myself and just got to do an album covers 1:30:53.760 --> 1:30:58.320 over to Lord bullies. We've been doing this since art 1:30:58.360 --> 1:31:01.680 Basils started around and were right, she had us down here. 1:31:01.840 --> 1:31:04.920 You were coming here before when we was a tourist trap. Yeah, 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:07.160 because that's when we was. I I should have a 1:31:07.240 --> 1:31:10.160 boot right over in the marina because because this was 1:31:10.280 --> 1:31:13.200 this was a dirt back That's why the graffiti rights 1:31:13.200 --> 1:31:14.840 were out here, because the cops was in coming. Was 1:31:14.880 --> 1:31:16.439 one of the first one that had us down there 1:31:16.479 --> 1:31:20.200 doing that. Because Alice's still running, running, running out of here. 1:31:20.960 --> 1:31:22.840 Now I come back, then look at the whole city. 1:31:23.000 --> 1:31:28.479 Is graffiti outed out with duck tourists. Yeah, yeah, art bullies. 1:31:29.760 --> 1:31:32.519 But so that's one of the things too that stood 1:31:32.520 --> 1:31:35.120 out to me about these albums that you were putting out. 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:39.800 It was a black superhero kind of themes theme. Like 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:42.439 it was like and I think I remember you hearing 1:31:42.880 --> 1:31:46.040 hearing you say something, say something about those obviously the 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:49.160 seventies at least when I go on research, and I think, 1:31:49.200 --> 1:31:51.760 I mean he said, you know, the artists might die, 1:31:51.800 --> 1:31:55.040 but the character would never die. Characters never, never one 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:58.080 of my characters. Never the Mickey Mouse and all that 1:31:58.400 --> 1:32:01.840 be round forever. Yeah, but you realize that's out here. 1:32:03.760 --> 1:32:06.040 You won't even realize that. Yeah, yeah, that's where I 1:32:06.120 --> 1:32:08.880 look at it. I try to do my characters like that, 1:32:09.120 --> 1:32:12.559 like play a Tommy Dog. We gotta we gotta thing 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:15.320 that with the Q Dogs that's coming out. There's coming 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:18.680 at any minute now is the que Dogs version of 1:32:18.800 --> 1:32:22.000 a Tommy Dog. That's gonna blown by the dog. And 1:32:22.439 --> 1:32:24.840 I mean, for real, for real, you're gonna I mean, 1:32:24.920 --> 1:32:28.600 you're gonna see some political I mean, the QUS be 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:32.400 stomping on it. But we keep the characters alive, you 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:35.000 know that. But but but but let me just reivate 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:37.840 what I'm trying to say. It was the black superhero 1:32:38.000 --> 1:32:40.000 characters that we had never seen, but you see a 1:32:40.040 --> 1:32:42.160 lot of them now. Yeah, now you know I mean 1:32:42.320 --> 1:32:46.680 since Wander Conda Conda, Yes, since that that came out, 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:49.600 and that all these Hancock, let's just start all of that. 1:32:50.240 --> 1:32:52.760 Reggie Hutton, we was working with him when he first 1:32:52.800 --> 1:32:55.400 got out of college. He's been playing on doing pe 1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:58.120 funk and now Eddie Murphy is getting ready to do me. 1:32:58.800 --> 1:33:01.240 He's playing me weird college wait wait wait wait wait 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:03.280 wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait 1:33:03.479 --> 1:33:09.479 me right now in this coming out all over the thing. 1:33:09.600 --> 1:33:14.280 And okay, so Eddie Murphy playing played me in the 1:33:14.439 --> 1:33:18.280 new and one coming out. Chris Kleifand is playing me 1:33:18.479 --> 1:33:20.920 right now. They got the one called Spinning Gold, which 1:33:21.000 --> 1:33:24.640 is about Castle Blanca. You know, Donna Summer's Kiss in 1:33:24.800 --> 1:33:28.080 Parliament and all that. The Neil Bogard that'll be out 1:33:28.160 --> 1:33:33.880 in two or three weeks Spinning Gold, and that's that's 1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:36.240 wizards playing myself. He did a pretty good job. I 1:33:36.320 --> 1:33:39.479 saw that. Why and once you're smoking weed back then 1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:44.160 smoking we I mean I did WoT life. Now we 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:48.519 went smoking weed back because I'm wondering where this wiz 1:33:48.640 --> 1:33:50.680 go to smoke? Now we were doing, we were doing. 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:56.760 It was cool. Then it was the Bogle bottles, you know, 1:33:56.880 --> 1:33:58.720 running the neck with the change. Wait, I'm time, I've 1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:00.880 never heard this one time on up you have bottles 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:05.240 around already know about it. I mean that was the 1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:08.240 Hollywood that hold on. You had necklaces full of class 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:13.120 with little bottles. Didn't even it wasn't even legal. It 1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:16.320 was never heard a necklace for the coal gate Cuban links. Yes, 1:34:19.040 --> 1:34:25.920 that's like that, you know, And then you know it 1:34:26.040 --> 1:34:29.240 got so wild and pretty soon, didn't everybody doing lines 1:34:29.360 --> 1:34:33.080 and that became later on. It was. It was so 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:37.519 it started out nettle spoons and ship you know, and 1:34:37.640 --> 1:34:41.120 then people went crazy and started over doing because no 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:44.160 one knew what cocaine was. Back then you knew what 1:34:44.200 --> 1:34:47.720 you didn't. Marijuana was not in the hood. D some 1:34:47.880 --> 1:34:50.439 people did, people with money did. And then I feel 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:52.240 like the people around they were like there was some 1:34:52.320 --> 1:34:55.519 money thing. They moved their hands like this. It was like, yeah, 1:34:55.600 --> 1:34:58.519 it was like upper society was doing it. Yeah, you know, 1:34:58.680 --> 1:35:05.680 like you see no classical people when they look, yeah, 1:35:05.720 --> 1:35:09.240 that was money thing. Yeah. When they made it where 1:35:09.240 --> 1:35:10.800 it get in the streets and when they hit to 1:35:10.840 --> 1:35:13.800 the hood, the hood fucked it up. Had to cook 1:35:13.840 --> 1:35:17.120 it cook put water hood with Old Bay on that 1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:21.320 ship the hood them but the Old Bay and barbecue sauce. 1:35:22.880 --> 1:35:25.719 I had a robe on with a box of bacon 1:35:25.760 --> 1:35:29.639 soda on it. That was That was the like the emblem. 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:33.840 You know, I don't know what I was angling. You 1:35:33.920 --> 1:35:38.360 got me because you because I hadn't had a Newport. 1:35:39.040 --> 1:35:45.800 I diamond out Newport the whole box of bacon. You win, 1:35:50.960 --> 1:35:55.439 you winning. It was about it's called getting fucked up 1:35:56.200 --> 1:35:58.160 and when you when you get fucked up, you do 1:35:58.320 --> 1:36:01.280 fucked up ship, And that's all it was. Everybody was 1:36:01.360 --> 1:36:04.080 out there who could get fucked up? And who could 1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:07.160 do it? Dude? You know whatever the styling is. Yeah, 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:10.800 it was looking back at it was stupid, but I 1:36:10.920 --> 1:36:12.760 got out of it coming. I'm gonna tell you my 1:36:13.640 --> 1:36:15.640 one of my first not one of my first, was 1:36:15.680 --> 1:36:18.040 just one of the first times I realized that Hollywood 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:21.320 is different from New York. Was, Um, I had a 1:36:21.360 --> 1:36:25.200 packet of cigarettes, and I from a pack of cigarettes. 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:29.559 I went to a Hollywood uh uh, just a Hollywood party, 1:36:29.640 --> 1:36:32.360 right networking thing. Yeah, this is a Hollywood party and 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:33.800 I had a packet of cigarette. I put a pack 1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:36.160 of cigarettes and a white dude came into me and said, hey, man, 1:36:36.160 --> 1:36:39.200 I give you an eight ball for that. Yeah, he said, 1:36:39.479 --> 1:36:47.400 theready what I've seen that, But he wanted a whole cigarette. 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:50.320 He wanted a cigarette battle of money. Yeah, yeah, and 1:36:50.400 --> 1:36:52.880 he wanted the whole eight more. Goddamn, we're looking good. 1:36:53.080 --> 1:36:56.400 Come on, let's over some toploers in there. Got work, brother, 1:36:56.600 --> 1:36:58.200 you know, we flyout him in from perud it's the 1:36:58.280 --> 1:37:01.400 row planks, oh man, peru just but we just flamm 1:37:01.439 --> 1:37:07.919 in from listening America, the role Peru. I like Perui 1:37:07.960 --> 1:37:12.080 and a week and did he did run and he 1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:13.920 just he just comes to here the role Bluss and 1:37:14.000 --> 1:37:20.800 wrestle pigeons here mingo pigeons. And that's our brother Boris 1:37:20.880 --> 1:37:22.960 right there, beats in the hood. He's a producer. Boys 1:37:23.200 --> 1:37:28.840 came in with that guy Dad. So so what is 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:30.559 your favorite part of the game. Is it to make 1:37:30.600 --> 1:37:37.040 the record or perform the record? Wow? Probably performing it? 1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:40.360 But when when I get a chance to make it 1:37:41.120 --> 1:37:44.720 under the conditions, I like to make it in I 1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:48.120 enjoyed the hell out of that because lie to crazy, 1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:52.920 try kind of crazy shit a different ways. So I 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:55.760 like making it too, but I like performing it. Yes, 1:37:55.880 --> 1:37:58.679 that once you know we get on the stages, that's 1:37:58.800 --> 1:38:02.080 second heaven for me. But but you said you prefer 1:38:02.200 --> 1:38:05.240 analog over digital, right, But now, with all the things 1:38:05.320 --> 1:38:07.600 you could do with digital when you are recording, is 1:38:07.640 --> 1:38:10.440 there anything about digital you love that you could manipulate 1:38:10.560 --> 1:38:12.720 and do all these different sounds easier than you could 1:38:12.800 --> 1:38:16.360 with analog. Well, yeah, you didn't do a lot of stuff, 1:38:16.960 --> 1:38:19.760 just faster and stuff like that. I mean yeah, and 1:38:19.880 --> 1:38:22.760 then the editing stuff that you can do, I mean, 1:38:22.800 --> 1:38:25.040 you just gotta cut t look at the scope and 1:38:25.200 --> 1:38:28.720 do it. That's that's not even fair. We had to, 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:33.080 like and you literally had to cut tape, tape, little 1:38:33.080 --> 1:38:36.000 pieces of tape with We had tape all around a 1:38:36.160 --> 1:38:39.640 beat everywhere. And if you put it upside down and 1:38:39.800 --> 1:38:42.519 put it back in the room, it's backwards. For a second, 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:45.040 do you take it out and turn it over? We 1:38:45.200 --> 1:38:48.120 had tape, We had to cut up everything. Now you 1:38:48.200 --> 1:38:50.280 just look at the scope and the engineer I got 1:38:50.400 --> 1:38:52.400 now he don't even have You don't have to listen 1:38:52.479 --> 1:38:55.120 at it. He can give me an ed all for 1:38:55.200 --> 1:38:59.479 a word just about the scope respect. So that's that's 1:38:59.520 --> 1:39:02.720 the easy. But the feeling of him right now, the 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:06.680 analog feeling up two inch skate, there's a whole nother thing. 1:39:06.760 --> 1:39:09.760 And it's heavy as a motherfucker. Yeah, even especially when 1:39:09.840 --> 1:39:11.920 they sampled it, if they sampled it off a record 1:39:12.680 --> 1:39:15.439 as opposed to the tape, Yeah, that's shit. It's hot. 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:18.600 I mean when you listen back you sample something like 1:39:18.800 --> 1:39:22.639 listening to a run DMC, that was some hot shit. 1:39:22.840 --> 1:39:26.439 I mean you know that damn the bottom on it. 1:39:26.560 --> 1:39:28.080 And if they put an eight or eight on that, 1:39:28.960 --> 1:39:32.040 it ain't the same as nowadays they do. It still 1:39:32.240 --> 1:39:34.160 feel good. It's a whole other thing. Did you ever 1:39:34.240 --> 1:39:37.240 hear there's um a quote h DJ Quick? I think 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:40.880 he was on ty Lib's and Quick said something about 1:39:40.920 --> 1:39:44.040 he felt that recording analog and on and on tape 1:39:44.520 --> 1:39:48.320 that the because of the magnetism that's one on there, 1:39:48.360 --> 1:39:50.960 that it's it's capturing the energy in the room. I 1:39:51.040 --> 1:39:54.519 believe so, yeah, and I and I believe that. Yeah, 1:39:54.520 --> 1:39:57.360 there's a there's a thing they actually you can actually 1:39:58.200 --> 1:40:02.639 record the sound of an EMP studio. We just record 1:40:02.720 --> 1:40:06.000 the which is ecstatic, that's just the studio, and put 1:40:06.080 --> 1:40:08.439 that on a track and have a track of just 1:40:08.760 --> 1:40:12.960 that empty studio in there, and record the drums somewhere 1:40:13.000 --> 1:40:16.479 else for them. When you mix it, mix them together, 1:40:16.880 --> 1:40:18.920 it sound like the drummers is played at this studio 1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:24.599 in a certain studio. Certain studio studios have their own 1:40:25.200 --> 1:40:27.840 you know, ambient sound. Just putting mics up in the 1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:32.400 studio and record the studio niked studio, and then go 1:40:32.520 --> 1:40:36.880 and put anybody anywhere else. It's cheating you. I recorded 1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:39.439 this a united sound because the studio have a sound 1:40:39.520 --> 1:40:43.000 of its own, right, I mean, And it worked almost 1:40:43.280 --> 1:40:46.000 I can tell any record. I can't tell any record, 1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:48.400 but I can pretty much get when somebody was recorded 1:40:48.439 --> 1:40:52.120 at this studio. I just know that vibe, you know, 1:40:52.400 --> 1:40:55.120 the ambience, and you could be like this record that 1:40:55.240 --> 1:40:57.840 record plan. Yeah. I used to be able to do that. Yeah, 1:40:57.880 --> 1:41:02.280 record plant was easy. Yeah yeah, yeah I lost that ship. Yeah, 1:41:02.840 --> 1:41:06.599 because I think everything is digital. Yeah, that's the digital Yeah. Yeah. 1:41:07.120 --> 1:41:08.519 I used to be like, this is hit Factory, this 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:14.200 is Criteria. We mixed Stomic Dog and Criteria Criteria here 1:41:14.200 --> 1:41:17.280 in Miami. I say, you know that's how you know 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:22.840 you're legend that before factory. Yeah yeah, it was Criteria that. Yeah, 1:41:22.920 --> 1:41:25.680 we recorded when you it was Criterias. Let thank you 1:41:25.680 --> 1:41:27.720 for making me feel old. I respect you were the 1:41:27.760 --> 1:41:35.840 same name. Two wow, a little Nantes bgs that during 1:41:35.920 --> 1:41:40.400 that time. So the bjs were recording there, yeahs just 1:41:40.479 --> 1:41:42.599 living there. I mean they live out here, were living 1:41:42.640 --> 1:41:44.400 in that studio at the time. They didn't have their 1:41:44.439 --> 1:41:48.639 own place then Betty Right, Oh, they were literally living there. Yeah, 1:41:49.520 --> 1:41:59.160 Betty Right was right. Yeah, husband, wow, Yeah, this is 1:42:00.120 --> 1:42:02.479 Criteria is like it's in It's it's not like in 1:42:02.560 --> 1:42:05.400 the hood street. Oh no, no, it's it's never been 1:42:05.400 --> 1:42:07.840 I don't think that's ever been a nice area. It's 1:42:07.880 --> 1:42:10.599 been an industrial area. It was. Yeah, it was deep 1:42:10.640 --> 1:42:12.920 back there. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, back then I could 1:42:12.920 --> 1:42:17.000 imagine it's a little class here. Yeah. That was. That's 1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:21.439 when Miami vice was out, yea cocaine everything that was. Yeah, 1:42:21.880 --> 1:42:24.759 that was that was That was that time. The eighties 1:42:24.880 --> 1:42:28.439 was crazy and that like that time. I said, you 1:42:28.560 --> 1:42:32.400 still have the little necklace. No, your necklace got bigger 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:35.400 than I used to live into Sheridan Poy Ambassador. I 1:42:35.520 --> 1:42:38.800 think it might call it in a commonial now pull 1:42:38.880 --> 1:42:42.920 you bake downtown. Yeah, yeah, it's still that. I used 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:47.880 to live there. Uh huh. George Bush Senior used to live. 1:42:48.400 --> 1:42:52.120 He was a CIA director and even CIA. Yeah, he 1:42:52.760 --> 1:42:55.760 he used to living in Now he was living with 1:42:55.840 --> 1:42:59.639 the I forget what I'm talking to y'all. We don't live. 1:43:02.000 --> 1:43:07.559 Yeah know we never had to, Joge, we seen your story, Jesus. No, no, yeah, 1:43:07.560 --> 1:43:09.160 we used to live. I used to live there and 1:43:09.400 --> 1:43:13.080 go fishing from there. All of them. I didn't even know. George, 1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:19.479 You're listmust have been seven and eight. I bought a 1:43:19.560 --> 1:43:21.400 seventy seven just so you know. So I was there 1:43:21.439 --> 1:43:27.040 with y'all. My mind. Hold. Yeah, that's when the Maam 1:43:27.080 --> 1:43:30.599 and Marina was right at the park there. Yeah. Yeah, 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:35.360 you really like like fishing, like Boots and the everytime 1:43:35.400 --> 1:43:37.320 we get a hit record. We was down there and 1:43:37.439 --> 1:43:39.960 we go over to Beminy. We take the boat over 1:43:40.040 --> 1:43:44.519 to Beminy. Aliens huh and see aliens? See aliens. You 1:43:44.720 --> 1:43:46.479 heard about the Beminy. What is it the in the 1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:50.320 water they got the stones you heard about that they 1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:52.400 got these stones that they say they think it's like 1:43:52.560 --> 1:43:54.840 part of Atlantis or something. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:43:55.000 --> 1:43:57.840 oh yeah, talk about yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about 1:43:59.160 --> 1:44:01.680 Matt Randall. Nah. I mean, I ain't gonnat. I want 1:44:01.720 --> 1:44:06.920 to see some aliens in bening Me. I want to 1:44:06.960 --> 1:44:10.479 go again, like I love Bahamas. Bahama is a beautiful place. Yeah, 1:44:10.840 --> 1:44:13.759 it's a beautiful place. Y'a'll been going to the Bahamas 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:18.120 for years. I ain't too much conk konk fritis. I'll 1:44:18.120 --> 1:44:22.560 be eating conferences of coming out of my ears. And 1:44:22.720 --> 1:44:24.400 the first day I got a chance to get some 1:44:25.240 --> 1:44:29.320 some soul food. They gave me a Bahama mama a 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:32.160 drink and now it was hot and I thought it 1:44:32.280 --> 1:44:36.799 was you know, kool laid okay, and it's hot outside, 1:44:36.800 --> 1:44:39.320 you gonna feel that. I thought they had taken two 1:44:39.400 --> 1:44:46.120 times a yellow sunshine. That ship had your head, I 1:44:46.200 --> 1:44:48.360 mean everything, and that we was at I dinner with 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:54.639 the president I was president of. They said we got 1:44:54.840 --> 1:44:57.639 one because I was like, take me home, y'all. Don't 1:44:57.680 --> 1:45:00.439 think I'm gonna make it. But here now loud to 1:45:00.479 --> 1:45:03.920 everybody to table, I think we got one. They had 1:45:03.960 --> 1:45:05.800 to take me home. I missed dinner with all the 1:45:05.880 --> 1:45:10.960 good president of All right, cool, and you said yellow message? 1:45:11.600 --> 1:45:18.479 Was that yellow? But no, that was LSD twenty five 1:45:19.640 --> 1:45:24.759 D twenty five. I took you know, it's real twenty 1:45:24.800 --> 1:45:32.280 five surgic death, allumie, what like sergic def thalamie. That's 1:45:32.280 --> 1:45:38.040 a hell of science. Oh, I didn't really listen, real thing. 1:45:38.040 --> 1:45:41.519 It was just a nigga named LSD. They named that 1:45:44.720 --> 1:45:47.639 doing that. And we was in Boston at the time. 1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:51.439 That did Timothy Leary Bobby Brown sampled you too, right? 1:45:51.520 --> 1:45:55.920 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did live things with them. Okay, yeah, 1:45:56.320 --> 1:45:58.320 they went on too with us. They first too, he 1:45:58.479 --> 1:46:01.920 knowing Bobby Brown book, he fried chicken with cocaine. I 1:46:02.000 --> 1:46:07.680 can dig it. I think I think that story was 1:46:07.760 --> 1:46:12.560 messed up. Brot said it. He admitted he changed the story. No, no, 1:46:12.720 --> 1:46:19.599 he said he didn't say purposely cooked. No, he thought 1:46:19.600 --> 1:46:21.479 it was. I never said it was on purpose, no, no, 1:46:21.560 --> 1:46:23.760 but I just said he fried cocaine. No, no, he 1:46:23.800 --> 1:46:25.920 thought it was flower though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh 1:46:26.040 --> 1:46:29.120 I never I know that. But it's the way we've 1:46:29.160 --> 1:46:32.479 always said the story. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, let's go, 1:46:32.960 --> 1:46:37.200 let's go, let's go. Yeah, let's let's You ain't never 1:46:37.240 --> 1:46:40.519 fried no chicken. You ain't never fried no chicken with cocaine. No, no, no, 1:46:40.640 --> 1:46:42.439 but I've seen it done. Never seen you just seen 1:46:42.479 --> 1:46:47.280 it done. I've seen. But I'm saying we would. We 1:46:47.400 --> 1:46:49.360 were at the time, like I said, we were in 1:46:49.479 --> 1:46:53.880 the Boston area when Timothy learing them discovered the LSD thing, 1:46:54.000 --> 1:46:57.000 when that that whole thing, when the FBI was searching 1:46:57.080 --> 1:47:01.439 for him doing the seventies. Yes, we were in Boston 1:47:01.880 --> 1:47:04.400 during that time because when that was in the university, right, 1:47:04.439 --> 1:47:07.240 the university. Yeah, matter of fact, that's what we got 1:47:07.280 --> 1:47:10.040 the answer from those same kids when you could actually 1:47:10.439 --> 1:47:13.240 they pay you sixty dollars to take it and watch 1:47:13.320 --> 1:47:16.599 it for four hours because they were express you've never 1:47:16.640 --> 1:47:22.200 seen a movie. It was doing that with LSD. Yeah, 1:47:22.360 --> 1:47:24.080 that's what that's what it was at and we was 1:47:24.479 --> 1:47:27.560 we had just gotten into Boston like that. No, that 1:47:27.640 --> 1:47:30.639 was sixty eight. That's right, sixty eight. Oh my god, 1:47:31.240 --> 1:47:36.160 and so led Zeppelin and in those groups came through 1:47:36.200 --> 1:47:38.960 the sixty eight that was the really the psychedelicy and 1:47:39.000 --> 1:47:43.200 they got put onto it here right, wow, that changed music. 1:47:43.320 --> 1:47:47.320 That was my experience with acid and that whole time 1:47:48.080 --> 1:47:51.640 LSDA asked the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah right, they 1:47:51.720 --> 1:47:54.040 and cousins. A matter of fact, the guy came to 1:47:54.240 --> 1:47:58.160 miammy what was one of the other professors, and he 1:47:58.320 --> 1:48:02.120 had to show here the Yeah, the show remember Flipper, Yeah, 1:48:02.520 --> 1:48:08.000 the dolphin. The guy that did that had that show 1:48:08.800 --> 1:48:12.920 that was that was an undercover show for the scientists. Wait, 1:48:12.960 --> 1:48:15.600 the show was undercovered? Was undercover? That show was a 1:48:15.720 --> 1:48:21.519 cover for them doing dolphin studies on with them LD No, No, 1:48:21.680 --> 1:48:24.479 the the same guy that did the LSD in New York. 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:28.479 Guys came here and had that show Flippers, and it 1:48:28.680 --> 1:48:33.320 was covered checking on the end of that. The Flipper 1:48:33.680 --> 1:48:36.640 was a cover for them studying dolphins and using them 1:48:36.680 --> 1:48:39.320 in the until they started using them in the government 1:48:39.479 --> 1:48:42.080 during the war. Oh, because they were doing the bomb thing. 1:48:43.040 --> 1:48:45.160 That's when he quit. That's when he let them lose. 1:48:45.520 --> 1:48:49.160 Spit right down to the separate tim I mean the sequarium. Yeah. Wow, 1:48:49.360 --> 1:48:51.960 didn't get a dolphins, Alice d huh might as well. 1:48:52.720 --> 1:48:55.400 I'm sure they did. Yeah, they probably did. The dude 1:48:55.479 --> 1:48:58.479 named John C. Lily. Check him out, John C. Lily. 1:48:58.640 --> 1:49:03.080 And that's how Flippery Flipper started talking about makes sense 1:49:05.960 --> 1:49:09.840 up Flipper came out of the water. That was just 1:49:09.960 --> 1:49:12.479 a cover that all that stuff that crazy. The real 1:49:12.560 --> 1:49:15.280 story was he was training the dolphins to put the 1:49:15.360 --> 1:49:18.240 bombs on them, right, and he let them loose. That 1:49:18.439 --> 1:49:20.920 was the big scandal. Why he found out that the 1:49:21.040 --> 1:49:25.240 government was doing that. He turned them loose. Now Atomic 1:49:26.120 --> 1:49:33.559 Atomic Dog UM took out Billy Jean number one, Michael Jackson, 1:49:33.640 --> 1:49:37.439 Billy anybody listening In case people don't know, Billy Jean 1:49:37.640 --> 1:49:40.560 is not my lover. It's not the girl says that 1:49:40.840 --> 1:49:45.280 I am the one. Yeah, but it's not my son. 1:49:45.760 --> 1:49:49.280 You took that shit out, Yeah, Tommy dog. But you 1:49:49.360 --> 1:49:53.280 know at the time that UM was that MTV. Yeah, 1:49:54.040 --> 1:49:57.160 it couldn't. They wouldn't put it on MTV. It wouldn't 1:49:57.200 --> 1:50:00.080 put yours on him, right, but they got the the 1:50:00.240 --> 1:50:02.439 gene on that that was he was pop lockers when 1:50:03.080 --> 1:50:07.160 got you know? And then Prince got on there every 1:50:07.200 --> 1:50:10.960 time after that, right, and then you you came and 1:50:11.080 --> 1:50:15.599 took it and had the number one position yet without MTV, 1:50:15.960 --> 1:50:20.599 without MTV. Wait, that's that's that's what I need. Yeah, 1:50:20.880 --> 1:50:23.479 you didn't need MTV. Oh no, we didn't need I mean, 1:50:23.600 --> 1:50:26.080 it's still and the record company told us it's not 1:50:26.240 --> 1:50:34.720 going pop. Did Michael coolly and be like, it's beef nigga? No? Mean, yes, 1:50:35.040 --> 1:50:37.040 the toy. I was doing the radio show with the toy. 1:50:38.040 --> 1:50:40.840 He called up and say, what is this hair doing? 1:50:42.920 --> 1:50:44.920 What is this hair doing? You know? Because that's what 1:50:45.000 --> 1:50:48.080 I just got, the colored braids? And right he had 1:50:48.160 --> 1:50:52.000 heard about it, he said, I mean with George Clinton, 1:50:52.080 --> 1:50:55.320 you know black, what is his hair doing? I heard 1:50:55.360 --> 1:50:58.600 about it? Right? Oh my god? And what made you 1:50:58.720 --> 1:51:07.760 say I'm taking the hair off? I'm eighty years old, goddamn, 1:51:08.760 --> 1:51:12.719 ain't no matter that Just start phone out by itself. 1:51:15.400 --> 1:51:18.240 Do you see yourself as a rock star that you are? 1:51:20.760 --> 1:51:23.560 I know, you know I know that I am, But 1:51:23.680 --> 1:51:26.160 I don't like to like I said, look at it 1:51:26.280 --> 1:51:28.120 like that. I got plenty of times to do that later. 1:51:28.840 --> 1:51:30.720 You know, when you started looking at it, you can 1:51:30.800 --> 1:51:33.560 get satisfied. I mean, not the egotistical. I mean just 1:51:33.680 --> 1:51:36.840 actually paying attention to I know. I mean I can't 1:51:37.120 --> 1:51:38.920 know what I've done. I know all of the history, 1:51:39.600 --> 1:51:42.479 but you know, you know you started dwelling that seasons 1:51:42.520 --> 1:51:44.920 to get lazy right now. I mean, I don't like 1:51:45.000 --> 1:51:47.080 to get like I ain't done eighty years old. I 1:51:47.160 --> 1:51:49.519 need an excuse to stay down. And if I start 1:51:49.640 --> 1:51:53.960 doing that, you know, I mean, everyone's want bench on 1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:57.280 YouTube and look at some of these shows. My wife 1:51:57.360 --> 1:51:58.880 doing a lot of the filming and stuff. So I 1:51:58.920 --> 1:52:01.600 actually have to look at them a lot lately. But 1:52:01.720 --> 1:52:03.679 you can get off into that and shit, I ain't 1:52:03.720 --> 1:52:07.400 moving another job, but I don't want to. I want 1:52:07.400 --> 1:52:10.040 to something to provoke me and let me TRYA has 1:52:10.080 --> 1:52:12.720 to do it again, you know, And that's what we're doing. 1:52:12.840 --> 1:52:17.519 We actually having fun doing tours now with the especially 1:52:17.520 --> 1:52:21.920 with the new the younger band. Have to keep ship's family. 1:52:22.000 --> 1:52:24.599 That's what's family amazing. That's the other thing you get 1:52:24.600 --> 1:52:27.840 to transferred to ship to them for them to keep 1:52:27.960 --> 1:52:30.720 doing it. That is generational wealth. What you're doing. Yeah, 1:52:30.840 --> 1:52:33.280 that's what I'm trying to make sure it is recognized. 1:52:33.680 --> 1:52:37.120 Like I said with Ben Crump, Ben ahead of our 1:52:37.200 --> 1:52:41.400 foundation of protect your legacy. That's what we're doing for 1:52:41.880 --> 1:52:45.120 all other artists, showing how to protect their legacy. And 1:52:45.320 --> 1:52:49.720 there is a thing called family, you know wealth. I mean, 1:52:49.800 --> 1:52:52.640 if you do it from that point, they can't use 1:52:52.720 --> 1:52:57.840 that legal term that is past um, statue of limitation 1:52:57.960 --> 1:53:00.320 and all that legal term that you can't. I'm gonna 1:53:00.320 --> 1:53:04.800 get your shit right. You can, Yeah, you can, you can, 1:53:05.160 --> 1:53:08.040 you should and you should right and so and and 1:53:08.280 --> 1:53:10.920 um and the thing is to do it, do it 1:53:11.000 --> 1:53:13.200 and you know not, ain't mad and now about it. 1:53:14.320 --> 1:53:17.280 Just do it right. And that's what's happening right now. 1:53:17.840 --> 1:53:22.800 That's an inspiration for me actually fighting and getting the 1:53:22.880 --> 1:53:27.120 copyration back. While I'm painting. I had all that, all 1:53:27.200 --> 1:53:29.760 that shit on the internet. People love that kind of 1:53:29.840 --> 1:53:33.040 content and they're seeing you on the internet. I'm in 1:53:33.120 --> 1:53:35.000 the guarden. My wives got a garden. I'm out there 1:53:35.040 --> 1:53:38.760 picking potatoes and shit. People love that kind of shit 1:53:38.880 --> 1:53:42.840 to see the old fuck out there doing. Let you know. 1:53:43.479 --> 1:53:48.400 Let so I had all that with the old songs 1:53:48.439 --> 1:53:50.840 that I got back that they never heard. I'll be 1:53:50.920 --> 1:53:52.640 playing when I came in and her jump playing that 1:53:53.080 --> 1:53:56.840 that old shit. I was like, damn, I worked the 1:53:56.920 --> 1:53:59.840 record that's be put year, just gonna do. People don't 1:53:59.840 --> 1:54:02.280 even know about when they hear him now, like when 1:54:02.360 --> 1:54:06.240 did that come out? It came out, you just missed it. 1:54:06.320 --> 1:54:09.320 But they're still here. So I like participating in the 1:54:09.400 --> 1:54:12.160 all the social media shit. You know, that's just like 1:54:12.280 --> 1:54:14.799 going to the radio station. So you fuck with TikTok 1:54:15.320 --> 1:54:17.960 im fuck with all of them. I'm fok with TikTok 1:54:18.000 --> 1:54:19.760 I fuck with all of them there. I can't see 1:54:20.120 --> 1:54:23.000 you know what I'm sucking the ain't trying to get 1:54:23.080 --> 1:54:25.280 commercial with him. I like to play with him because 1:54:25.320 --> 1:54:28.400 it's just the kitty shit. The old motherfucker's getting there 1:54:28.479 --> 1:54:31.240 trying to make money. Yeah, no, you gotta um you 1:54:31.439 --> 1:54:35.320 fu with Twitter? Yeah right, Twitter the most it's negative 1:54:35.400 --> 1:54:37.520 best place in them. I don't I don't actually get 1:54:37.560 --> 1:54:40.960 on I don't get on Twitter, and Facebook is when 1:54:40.960 --> 1:54:42.960 I don't get No, No, don't get on that fund 1:54:43.000 --> 1:54:45.000 See Instagram, you gotta show you a picture. I don't 1:54:45.040 --> 1:54:47.320 really like it. Yeah, Facebook, you gotta show you a picture. 1:54:47.320 --> 1:54:49.120 I don't really like yeah, Instagram much just going there 1:54:49.160 --> 1:54:51.480 and talk shit. I got no haircut. I'm just saying, 1:54:51.680 --> 1:54:53.760 I'm just on the bathroom. I'm like, what's up on 1:54:53.800 --> 1:54:56.640 the fucking no no no on Twitter? Twitter? And then 1:54:56.960 --> 1:54:59.680 someone be on here like you, Kamala, ain't brush your 1:54:59.800 --> 1:55:01.520 hair and he's like, what a minute you just told 1:55:01.560 --> 1:55:03.920 about the vice president? Like how are you talking about 1:55:03.920 --> 1:55:05.960 the vice president? God damn it? And then you just 1:55:06.800 --> 1:55:10.320 get in. I don't have no conversation, no politics, no 1:55:10.480 --> 1:55:12.440 politics for you. I watch them all deep, but I 1:55:12.440 --> 1:55:14.840 don't I don't get out here and talk about him. Yes, 1:55:15.080 --> 1:55:17.240 you know, because that's that's another kind of thing right now, 1:55:17.280 --> 1:55:19.520 because Joe I watched the hell of him. Because Joe Biden, 1:55:19.560 --> 1:55:21.560 I'm not sure if he here all there, he's my boy, 1:55:21.800 --> 1:55:26.880 he your boy eman. Camel ain't nothing, ain't I'm gonna 1:55:27.120 --> 1:55:29.680 great choice, you know, I don't even like you're like 1:55:29.800 --> 1:55:32.160 no other there's no other choices now, that's right, right, 1:55:32.400 --> 1:55:34.440 I'm gonna just say one thing. The other day, they 1:55:34.640 --> 1:55:37.160 walked Joe Biden out and he just can't walk against you. 1:55:37.280 --> 1:55:45.640 He see, No, you gotta gott another you know it now, 1:55:45.680 --> 1:55:48.200 there's a lot of things like you saw Joe Joe 1:55:48.240 --> 1:55:51.360 Biden's wife kiss coming out. I don't know that. I 1:55:51.400 --> 1:55:55.120 don't know if that's favor real. That ship was weird. Yeah, 1:55:58.200 --> 1:56:01.240 kind of partners to happen about. I'm used to. I'm 1:56:01.360 --> 1:56:05.680 used to French Italian They're gonna help me kill you. 1:56:06.080 --> 1:56:12.480 But they're neither French nor Italian. They're not French. People 1:56:12.560 --> 1:56:15.680 do that. They ain't no, bis no, I ain't gonna. 1:56:15.840 --> 1:56:17.800 I did, I'll kill you not. I've been places where 1:56:17.800 --> 1:56:20.360 I've seen two men kiss and then and then they're 1:56:20.360 --> 1:56:24.720 like like the Italians, will will do wherever you go. 1:56:24.880 --> 1:56:28.600 There's things that people do that's so different getting lost. 1:56:28.880 --> 1:56:32.840 I mean, did you try to eat some beef in India? Oh? Yeah, 1:56:33.320 --> 1:56:38.320 that's as bad as you dog here. You know, so 1:56:38.760 --> 1:56:41.920 just depending on where you at, you know, and after 1:56:42.000 --> 1:56:46.720 world it's like, damn, I guess they eat everything. That's yeah, 1:56:46.760 --> 1:56:50.040 I guess the Washington DC this because everybody's talking actually 1:56:50.480 --> 1:56:53.120 to you know, get over that at certain things because 1:56:53.120 --> 1:56:57.080 we've been so programmed. But I realized, if you starting 1:56:57.160 --> 1:57:01.960 and hungly, you do all that. You absolutely you know, 1:57:02.840 --> 1:57:08.960 some people think they're starving before they starving right, Oh 1:57:09.680 --> 1:57:13.720 enough yet ship, We're not done yet. Hold all right, 1:57:13.840 --> 1:57:17.400 jus my wife calling me right now. Okay, this is 1:57:17.480 --> 1:57:19.360 this is this is something to be touched on earlier. 1:57:19.680 --> 1:57:22.160 But I got this in my notes. When you did 1:57:22.240 --> 1:57:26.640 flash lights, they actually be performed with flashing lights, and 1:57:28.480 --> 1:57:32.080 the concerts, the people, yeah, the people, Oh my god, yeah, 1:57:32.640 --> 1:57:35.600 because this is this looks like thousand lightning because because 1:57:35.680 --> 1:57:38.120 now when hip hop say, put up a light up, 1:57:38.240 --> 1:57:40.120 they put up a light up. So you're telling me 1:57:40.160 --> 1:57:43.840 you would be this flashlights. Let me get your props. 1:57:43.920 --> 1:57:46.680 Let me just get your guys. You know how when 1:57:46.720 --> 1:57:50.240 you say put your phones upright, put your lighters upright. 1:57:50.320 --> 1:57:55.520 Put so you're a record people. They gotta remember flash 1:57:55.600 --> 1:57:58.680 legs like eighteen pounds back then, and they had D 1:57:58.880 --> 1:58:02.160 batteries and kill a nigga a couple of D batteries, 1:58:02.200 --> 1:58:06.400 so literally, you hit a nigga with bio the savers 1:58:06.440 --> 1:58:07.960 to that, I mean, and they had the springs. That 1:58:08.080 --> 1:58:12.600 was eighteen It was a lightsabers, lifesavers that Star Wars 1:58:12.680 --> 1:58:16.320 came out right when we put Mothership out. Star Wars 1:58:16.400 --> 1:58:19.440 came out the same year, a couple of months later, 1:58:19.640 --> 1:58:22.680 and you start performing this. These motherfuckers out there with flashlights, 1:58:22.760 --> 1:58:29.840 flashlight coliseums and the stadiums. Ninety thousand people and ship. Wow, 1:58:30.440 --> 1:58:35.080 ninety thousand people. You said you saw ninety thousand Afric 1:58:35.280 --> 1:58:38.920 Chicago Soldiers Field, there was seventy five thousand half frus. 1:58:40.040 --> 1:58:43.680 Come on, we got humble artists and humble artists three, 1:58:43.960 --> 1:58:50.080 let's all make but no, we got a humble artist today. 1:58:50.280 --> 1:58:52.840 We have to humble. Think that twenty thousand. Oh you 1:58:52.920 --> 1:58:56.480 got ten thousands doing ninety thousands. Yeah, you got ninety 1:58:56.520 --> 1:59:00.560 thousand people in aut with flashlights with killed me. They 1:59:00.640 --> 1:59:03.560 brought a flashlight. It's basically like holding the dof We 1:59:03.680 --> 1:59:06.320 sold him to eighteen pounds. We sold him we had, 1:59:06.440 --> 1:59:09.600 I mean wed. That was merch. That was very holy 1:59:09.720 --> 1:59:15.160 shit merch. Oh my god. Oh matter of fact, the 1:59:15.320 --> 1:59:19.800 merchant you know Prince movie. Um, I would have got 1:59:19.920 --> 1:59:23.720 on the club Billy Billy Sparks things. So that was 1:59:23.800 --> 1:59:26.320 the guy that sold the space, sold the flash like 1:59:26.640 --> 1:59:29.720 Billy Sparks flashlights that it was following a flashlights. He 1:59:29.840 --> 1:59:32.080 was the one that was doing the merch that time 1:59:32.160 --> 1:59:36.160 before he got with Prince. We have a Prince band 1:59:36.360 --> 1:59:39.240 was with us on. You know, merch people went to 1:59:39.320 --> 1:59:43.480 work for him. This is so crazy. Did you speak 1:59:43.480 --> 1:59:44.920 the day I sold? You know? Did I sold? Just 1:59:45.040 --> 1:59:48.280 recently got back the hold. Yeah, we're working at it. Okay, 1:59:48.360 --> 1:59:50.840 are you spoke to the god? They a matter of fact, 1:59:50.880 --> 1:59:53.680 they were one of the first ones. That's that when 1:59:53.720 --> 1:59:56.320 they sampled, that was the beginning. They say that, right, 1:59:56.760 --> 2:00:00.880 Tommy Boy paid us them, Digital Man them in digit 2:00:00.960 --> 2:00:03.920 on the ground because because digital only was on Tommy, 2:00:04.080 --> 2:00:06.760 then tom Me too. Those are the two that paid 2:00:06.880 --> 2:00:10.280 us the first time that they were sampled. We didn't 2:00:10.320 --> 2:00:12.720 know what people were doing using rec We know how 2:00:12.720 --> 2:00:14.840 you supposed to get paid and what the label paid you. 2:00:14.960 --> 2:00:17.240 But then Daylight got screwed on their royal. They got 2:00:17.280 --> 2:00:21.280 screwed later on. It was a good thing we both 2:00:21.360 --> 2:00:24.600 got and the dot paid us the first time. But 2:00:24.760 --> 2:00:27.080 by the time they got screwed, we both got screwed together. 2:00:27.160 --> 2:00:28.920 I'm saying it was due for everybody, So yeah, they 2:00:28.960 --> 2:00:31.760 knew it was able to pay you. The hip hop artists. 2:00:31.840 --> 2:00:34.440 It was all new in that situation. Nobody knew how 2:00:34.520 --> 2:00:37.080 to pay. But and then they actually but they charged 2:00:37.120 --> 2:00:39.840 the artists. They told him they was paying us. They 2:00:39.920 --> 2:00:42.440 were taking out of their royalties. Told them that they 2:00:42.480 --> 2:00:44.080 gave it to us. That's why I told Snoop, that's 2:00:44.080 --> 2:00:47.400 why they didn't get student the royalty statement party. If 2:00:47.400 --> 2:00:49.280 they took it out of the royalty, they didn't give 2:00:49.320 --> 2:00:52.040 it to me. It should be on my royalty. So 2:00:53.440 --> 2:00:56.160 you see what I'm saying. Yeah, no, she shouldn't be 2:00:56.200 --> 2:00:59.560 taken out of the artist's royalty. They did well. I mean, 2:00:59.600 --> 2:01:02.400 it's all the publish not just the publishing. The fact 2:01:02.480 --> 2:01:05.600 that you sampled the record, right, that's another thing. Now 2:01:05.720 --> 2:01:09.200 your master have another master in it. It's not the publishing, 2:01:09.480 --> 2:01:12.040 but it's the publishing. It's part of the writing credit 2:01:12.320 --> 2:01:15.640 and the ownership of the master the record itself. The 2:01:15.760 --> 2:01:18.160 writers get their part of them, but the person that 2:01:18.440 --> 2:01:21.360 sang the song or played. But you see, this is 2:01:21.400 --> 2:01:23.920 why people like you and a lot of people need 2:01:24.000 --> 2:01:27.520 to learn more about this because it's so complicated. I 2:01:27.600 --> 2:01:30.360 had a lawyer one time that he told me that 2:01:30.560 --> 2:01:35.000 the people that created the mathematical equation for publishing were 2:01:35.200 --> 2:01:37.240 rocket scientists, And I don't know if he was joking. 2:01:38.040 --> 2:01:39.800 They're the same one that did the same one that 2:01:39.920 --> 2:01:45.120 did um share cropping. You know what the farm Land. Right, 2:01:45.320 --> 2:01:48.080 it's the same theory as that ship, which is all 2:01:48.240 --> 2:01:50.600 they loan you some money and you never pay them back. 2:01:51.000 --> 2:01:54.960 Everything that you give them is against some advanced shit 2:01:55.600 --> 2:01:58.200 you know, which you'll never see back. And you and 2:01:58.280 --> 2:02:00.640 of course you're a fortune to get lawyers to play 2:02:00.720 --> 2:02:02.600 with him on that. You will always be Now you 2:02:02.640 --> 2:02:04.720 can get it back because of the thirty five years, 2:02:06.000 --> 2:02:08.600 and they'll still beat you. If you don't know what 2:02:08.720 --> 2:02:10.440 you do, go ahead and do it. But you can 2:02:10.520 --> 2:02:13.280 get on YouTube now and if all that shit, all 2:02:13.320 --> 2:02:16.160 that information is there. But like I said, we're doing 2:02:16.160 --> 2:02:20.120 a thing called protect our Legacy, and we're gonna have 2:02:21.000 --> 2:02:24.480 announced every year. We're gonna announce it. We're gonna announce 2:02:24.560 --> 2:02:27.400 every year whose song is due back to him? Because 2:02:27.480 --> 2:02:30.360 every year fire, somebody's song is due back to them 2:02:30.880 --> 2:02:36.280 or album. We're gonna find out fire. What about the 2:02:36.360 --> 2:02:39.040 pieces of the songs, like you're saying, the right samples 2:02:39.120 --> 2:02:40.800 up the song? Yeah, all of that, all of that 2:02:40.960 --> 2:02:43.240 come back. Like I think that needs to be simplified 2:02:43.280 --> 2:02:45.680 for people. Oh yeah, dude, because they need to tell you. 2:02:45.960 --> 2:02:48.800 They need to tell you when it's done, you know, 2:02:48.880 --> 2:02:51.560 like the copyright place to tell you somebody just use 2:02:51.600 --> 2:02:54.200 your song, they just sound they stick can do that, 2:02:54.400 --> 2:02:56.440 but they don't want to do that. They're gonna do 2:02:56.520 --> 2:03:00.560 it once he make it a um um rights thing, 2:03:00.680 --> 2:03:04.000 which is what's gonna be. You know that's gonna happen 2:03:04.080 --> 2:03:06.840 and everybody because there's a lot of hip hop money 2:03:06.880 --> 2:03:10.040 out there that I think we need more sampling and 2:03:10.160 --> 2:03:12.120 hip hop because I think that was they scared to 2:03:12.160 --> 2:03:14.360 do it because they got suits. I made hip hop 2:03:14.480 --> 2:03:16.560 that gave the soul to hip hop. Yeah it was, 2:03:17.280 --> 2:03:19.480 and when you took it out, it changed hip hop. Yeah, 2:03:19.480 --> 2:03:22.800 it's scared. When they got scared to sample stuff that 2:03:23.040 --> 2:03:26.480 changed everything. And in fact, that's scared effect that many 2:03:26.560 --> 2:03:30.040 people make vinyl records too, as I'm doing. Ain't many 2:03:30.080 --> 2:03:33.600 records or scratch. We got to start making records just 2:03:33.680 --> 2:03:36.520 so you can scratch them. I'm gonna tell you the 2:03:36.600 --> 2:03:42.800 first time I actually besides me, you know um question 2:03:42.880 --> 2:03:47.200 in my contract, The first time I ever and it 2:03:47.320 --> 2:03:49.480 was what wasn't called the order. It's first time I 2:03:49.600 --> 2:03:52.440 ever see my record label. It was something going on 2:03:52.560 --> 2:03:55.520 that was wasn't right was. I looked at it and 2:03:55.640 --> 2:04:00.400 they spent eight hundred thousand overseas budget. Back then, we 2:04:00.480 --> 2:04:04.000 didn't have an Instagram, we didn't have a Twitter. Eight 2:04:04.840 --> 2:04:07.240 hundred thousand, that's what they told me. They told me 2:04:07.280 --> 2:04:09.760 they spent eight hundred thousand because they made my record 2:04:10.080 --> 2:04:13.520 go number one in Europe and everywhere else. So they 2:04:13.560 --> 2:04:16.600 said that they spent this the marketing budget, the marketing budget, 2:04:16.840 --> 2:04:21.360 that that's where they always So back then I knew 2:04:21.440 --> 2:04:23.520 this something was wrong about this. I was like, wait 2:04:23.560 --> 2:04:27.960 a minute, his death jam, this is timmy Boy, this 2:04:28.040 --> 2:04:32.160 is timming Boy. Yeah, yeah, so um well, it wasn't him, 2:04:32.400 --> 2:04:34.880 it was the Penalty At the time, let's just say 2:04:34.880 --> 2:04:36.840 it was. It was one of them. It was doomed 2:04:36.840 --> 2:04:39.040 together when they was together, Penalty and Time Boy. And 2:04:39.120 --> 2:04:40.800 I was asking them. I was like, can you show 2:04:40.880 --> 2:04:46.080 me proof that you spent this money in Amsterdam? He 2:04:46.240 --> 2:04:49.440 showed me this money, he spent this money in Japan 2:04:50.000 --> 2:04:52.800 and such such. Back then we didn't have an Instagram, 2:04:53.240 --> 2:04:56.720 so whenever they showed me it was sufficient proof. Today yeah, 2:04:56.800 --> 2:04:59.760 and you couldn't. It's no, couldn't argue the proof. It's 2:05:00.000 --> 2:05:01.960 the only way they could have been spending that money there, 2:05:02.360 --> 2:05:04.720 but we couldn't. So that's the one thing I will 2:05:04.800 --> 2:05:08.480 give to social media Instagram, TikTok is. They can't do 2:05:08.640 --> 2:05:10.480 that no more. They can't say to me, Yo, I 2:05:10.560 --> 2:05:14.360 just spent one hundred and fifty thousand in Japan and Tokyo, 2:05:15.000 --> 2:05:17.040 and I got somebody in Tokyo that I could hit 2:05:17.120 --> 2:05:19.640 on Instagram or Twitter and say, did you see that poster? 2:05:20.160 --> 2:05:23.080 You know what I mean? And that's the one that's 2:05:23.120 --> 2:05:25.200 the one thing. So um. That was the one time 2:05:25.280 --> 2:05:27.880 that I actually started to see like, holy shit, these 2:05:27.880 --> 2:05:30.680 people are I don't want to say lying, but let 2:05:30.760 --> 2:05:33.680 me just be honest. They were lying. They were lying. 2:05:33.760 --> 2:05:36.600 There was not no other way to say it. And 2:05:36.760 --> 2:05:41.320 I'll never recoup that album. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard 2:05:41.400 --> 2:05:44.880 to recoup. Let mean, you can't even recoup. You can 2:05:44.920 --> 2:05:49.080 go bankrupt and they still tell you you're unstill, oh yeah, 2:05:49.800 --> 2:05:52.160 bankrupt supposed to wipe that shit out right, yes, right, 2:05:52.360 --> 2:05:55.800 But if you paying attention, they still charge you ten 2:05:55.920 --> 2:05:59.280 years later you're unrecoup I mean, is it far fet 2:05:59.440 --> 2:06:01.440 to say if you look at the history of record 2:06:01.520 --> 2:06:04.760 labels in the music industry, it's a racket. It was 2:06:04.800 --> 2:06:07.280 always a racket. It was always a racket. It's actually 2:06:07.560 --> 2:06:11.640 better now, I mean, it's actually because corporate America got involved. 2:06:11.680 --> 2:06:16.480 In the beginning, it was cracket. It was underworld ship, right, 2:06:16.880 --> 2:06:19.280 And using the word master was even fun up to 2:06:19.480 --> 2:06:22.720 using the word master master the master record. No, no, 2:06:22.960 --> 2:06:26.400 using the word master for the for the master that 2:06:26.560 --> 2:06:32.680 was even like a master record, that the first the original, 2:06:32.800 --> 2:06:37.600 the original record. No, no, no, you're taking that somewhere. Yeah, 2:06:38.120 --> 2:06:45.760 it's master master. You're right, you're right, you're right, my fault, right, 2:06:46.320 --> 2:06:49.760 you're right, it's going too far, my bad movies, my 2:06:49.880 --> 2:06:55.680 bass alcohol. But I think we're reaping. The industry is 2:06:55.720 --> 2:06:57.840 reaping the I don't want to see the benefit. It's 2:06:57.840 --> 2:07:00.560 reaping the history of what it was. It was always 2:07:00.560 --> 2:07:03.080 a racket, it was. It was the world racket. They 2:07:03.160 --> 2:07:06.440 called a cash cow. It was so you know street 2:07:06.640 --> 2:07:08.400 you know, you made the records on the street, you 2:07:08.440 --> 2:07:10.200 and they sold them. You got some of you so 2:07:10.360 --> 2:07:12.880 them to the stores. It was a hustle, you know. 2:07:13.120 --> 2:07:16.000 And they just made it, learn to make it civilized 2:07:16.040 --> 2:07:18.960 and a business. And it's getting to be that, believe me, 2:07:19.200 --> 2:07:21.480 because you look around and see yall they talk about 2:07:21.520 --> 2:07:25.480 billionaires were you weren't even a thousand there my day 2:07:26.000 --> 2:07:28.360 a millionaire was out of the reach. But now you're 2:07:28.360 --> 2:07:32.040 talking about billionaires, So it's going somewhere. The artists aren't 2:07:32.040 --> 2:07:35.360 becoming billionaires, are not in the music side of it, 2:07:36.680 --> 2:07:40.320 whether they're doing. They becoming billionaires not necessarily just off 2:07:40.360 --> 2:07:43.320 the music, off of the entire thing around them. They 2:07:43.440 --> 2:07:49.160 whole brand, like Marianna Beyonce Jay, they had to branch out. 2:07:49.240 --> 2:07:50.880 I'm just saying, no, you have to branch out. They 2:07:50.960 --> 2:07:53.040 get it, but it gives you the opportunity to brand, 2:07:53.080 --> 2:07:54.640 you know, the opportunity is that. I'm just saying that 2:07:54.760 --> 2:07:58.480 that infrastructure that started the music industry still comes from 2:07:58.520 --> 2:08:02.200 that shady place and it's still shaking it off today. Yeah. 2:08:02.240 --> 2:08:04.920 But like I said that thirty five years of getting 2:08:04.920 --> 2:08:08.400 your master's back or getting your copyrights back, that's a 2:08:08.560 --> 2:08:11.720 Johnny step. That mean that means you can actually go 2:08:11.920 --> 2:08:14.320 in there and get your thing and you can get 2:08:14.360 --> 2:08:18.400 paid for the licensing of that from now on. They 2:08:18.440 --> 2:08:20.760 didn't have that before. You didn't get it back, you 2:08:20.840 --> 2:08:24.840 said forever into perpetuity and all that kind of shit. 2:08:26.000 --> 2:08:29.160 Now you can actually get it back, but you got 2:08:29.200 --> 2:08:32.360 to know how to work it. What was publishing when 2:08:32.400 --> 2:08:36.160 you first started, like it was publishing already established. Yeah, 2:08:36.480 --> 2:08:39.280 I mean Joe Bett was the best, biggest publishing in 2:08:39.280 --> 2:08:43.280 the world. That Motown. All those songs that came through Motown, 2:08:43.680 --> 2:08:47.000 they were like the biggest. Columbia was the second, you know, 2:08:47.520 --> 2:08:52.920 screen Gym the second biggest worldwide published. They didn't movies 2:08:53.080 --> 2:08:56.560 and soundtracks, so there was always a structure there for 2:08:57.000 --> 2:09:01.240 pop music, classical music and stuff us that rock and 2:09:01.400 --> 2:09:04.960 roll was like hip hop. It was a street thing. 2:09:05.000 --> 2:09:07.520 For people that don't understand. Rock and roll wasn't a 2:09:07.640 --> 2:09:10.640 white genre originally, not at first, not at first, but 2:09:11.200 --> 2:09:13.800 Richie invented that ship right because people know, people think 2:09:13.800 --> 2:09:15.400 of rock and roll. I think of these like heavy 2:09:15.440 --> 2:09:17.360 metal bands or something. No, no, no, no, no, that's 2:09:17.720 --> 2:09:22.280 that's rock. The rock and roll now, I mean, Jered 2:09:22.320 --> 2:09:24.920 y Lewis was my favorite when it comes to rock 2:09:25.000 --> 2:09:28.600 and roll version of that white version of that. Elvis 2:09:28.720 --> 2:09:31.320 was cool because he made it, and you gotta get 2:09:31.400 --> 2:09:34.840 people prop that made it worked for him. But jeredy Lewis, 2:09:35.440 --> 2:09:37.520 he came to the pollo. Thie didn't turn it out. 2:09:38.400 --> 2:09:41.960 You know, he focused like damn this mom. You know 2:09:42.200 --> 2:09:45.680 he was he was that he had a real vibe 2:09:45.720 --> 2:09:48.400 in this that he was a crazy motherfucking called himself 2:09:49.400 --> 2:09:51.840 with the killer. I mean, he's he had a hell 2:09:51.880 --> 2:09:54.720 of a story, you know. But he was all of 2:09:54.800 --> 2:09:57.560 that rock and roll thing for me from the fifties, 2:09:58.240 --> 2:10:00.280 you know, and then you got a lot of went 2:10:00.360 --> 2:10:02.600 after that, the pop side of it. Like I said, 2:10:02.640 --> 2:10:06.200 it's gonna be the Beatles once they got Really that's 2:10:06.280 --> 2:10:08.800 how people get asking me a Beatles story for you, huh, 2:10:08.960 --> 2:10:11.600 A Beatles story from you? All the Beatles, like I said, 2:10:11.680 --> 2:10:20.160 that was just just like John Lennon Paul No, No, 2:10:20.280 --> 2:10:22.040 I've never met him, because I said, I mean I 2:10:22.080 --> 2:10:24.720 met George Harrison. I met him. You know. They all 2:10:24.840 --> 2:10:29.040 were their own entity and whatever that was that took 2:10:29.320 --> 2:10:32.960 rock and roll to another. But they weren't even rock 2:10:33.000 --> 2:10:36.160 and roll originally, but they were basically they weren't until 2:10:36.240 --> 2:10:39.720 the George Martin started producing them and putting all those 2:10:40.120 --> 2:10:44.080 classical strings and things behind them. Then they became something 2:10:44.200 --> 2:10:46.960 other than a rock and roll. Their first records, they 2:10:47.680 --> 2:10:50.640 records without all the strings and things. It's basically rock 2:10:50.680 --> 2:10:53.600 and roll, simple rock and roll at that when they 2:10:53.640 --> 2:10:55.280 were suited up there, they were rock and roll though 2:10:55.360 --> 2:10:58.600 they was there. But but then George Jorge Martin actually 2:10:58.840 --> 2:11:02.960 performed put simping stuff there. Over their music, they became 2:11:03.000 --> 2:11:06.000 more eclectic, very e classic, I mean to the point 2:11:06.000 --> 2:11:09.800 of almost jazz, because the classic it was symphony, you 2:11:09.880 --> 2:11:11.360 know what I'm saying. But it was still rock and roll, 2:11:12.000 --> 2:11:15.080 and they had all the elements of what rock starring 2:11:15.360 --> 2:11:19.400 was and they had different styles of real good music. 2:11:19.720 --> 2:11:23.879 Whenever somebody else did their songs, it really when Aretha 2:11:24.040 --> 2:11:28.920 would do Yesterday, Ray Charles would do Yesterday, their song 2:11:29.080 --> 2:11:32.920 was conducive to serious R and B singers, right and 2:11:33.000 --> 2:11:36.040 you can their song worked very well. But they were 2:11:36.120 --> 2:11:38.960 the ones that just gave it all that class and 2:11:39.040 --> 2:11:41.520 it was something to shoot for. And that's what we did. 2:11:41.760 --> 2:11:44.480 We did not want to be a regular band. We 2:11:44.640 --> 2:11:48.080 wanted to be a thing, an extraordinary band. We call 2:11:48.160 --> 2:11:52.320 it polo Funkadelic, mint thing. We could be anything we 2:11:52.400 --> 2:11:55.560 wanted to. We have to get morph into whatever you want. 2:11:56.720 --> 2:11:59.320 Nobody wouldn't say that, ain't your bad. You were on genre. 2:11:59.640 --> 2:12:01.680 We didn't want to be in a bad You wanted 2:12:01.680 --> 2:12:04.920 to be like Sunrin just do music and people say 2:12:04.960 --> 2:12:08.400 that that's weird. But when you do get one, let's 2:12:08.440 --> 2:12:11.280 be like, oh, it stands by itself like a Tommy dog. 2:12:11.400 --> 2:12:15.200 There's nothing. We couldn't even do another Tommy doll. Nobody 2:12:15.280 --> 2:12:17.600 can't you know, that's that's never gonna happen. I was 2:12:17.600 --> 2:12:20.080 just one of those stories, you know, where I walked in. 2:12:20.200 --> 2:12:23.720 I thought that, you know, highs hell. I thought they 2:12:23.760 --> 2:12:27.760 were recording without me, and ran into the studio, told 2:12:27.760 --> 2:12:30.520 everybody let me sing, and they had to tape on backwards. 2:12:31.880 --> 2:12:35.160 So I sang to the tape this backwards. It's like, oh, 2:12:36.440 --> 2:12:38.560 and once I did it, it was too late. They 2:12:38.640 --> 2:12:40.600 had to finish it that way. They had to put 2:12:40.640 --> 2:12:45.000 the rest of the instruments on. So no, that was 2:12:45.080 --> 2:12:47.240 in Detroit. So when you heard it that way, would 2:12:47.240 --> 2:12:49.680 you say, yeah, this is gat That's why I'm talking 2:12:49.720 --> 2:12:52.480 so long. This is a story on famous dogs. I'm 2:12:52.480 --> 2:12:55.240 trying to figure out what kids. Then I'm trying and 2:12:55.360 --> 2:12:59.200 I don't force my way in the studio, so everybody's 2:12:59.200 --> 2:13:01.240 like like they're looking right there. I'm looking right through 2:13:01.240 --> 2:13:03.280 the glass. They all looking at me, and I'm trying 2:13:03.280 --> 2:13:06.680 to figure out what fucking kids and ain't got no key, 2:13:06.760 --> 2:13:09.440 so I'm trying to kill time. This is the story 2:13:09.480 --> 2:13:15.360 of famous dogs. I'm sure you're trying to sort the 2:13:15.440 --> 2:13:18.920 from sorry, but this is the main my head with 2:13:19.120 --> 2:13:22.040 the clap, I mean, all of that was just ad 2:13:22.240 --> 2:13:25.200 lived into what wasn't gonna gonna Well, I must I 2:13:25.320 --> 2:13:29.000 feel like that, moll must I chase the cat nothing 2:13:29.040 --> 2:13:33.400 mother dog and me ain't told as fuck that's not 2:13:33.560 --> 2:13:37.000 committing to a key. And then do the dog kids? 2:13:37.040 --> 2:13:40.560 Did I realize, damn this making sense to the dog catcher? 2:13:40.960 --> 2:13:43.880 And I saw everybody start laughing. And once you know 2:13:44.160 --> 2:13:47.320 I drove you, you're seeing people laughing your ego arow, 2:13:47.400 --> 2:13:53.879 you didn't drove you. I got this mother hippi yo yippy. 2:14:04.760 --> 2:14:10.160 Why that's an incredible that is the real. Because everybody's 2:14:10.160 --> 2:14:12.560 looking at it. They told me we're waiting on you 2:14:13.400 --> 2:14:15.960 because we we we know we got to wreck it 2:14:16.040 --> 2:14:20.600 on backwards. But now they have to go back in 2:14:20.840 --> 2:14:23.560 and put the drums on it. Gall invented something brand new, 2:14:23.840 --> 2:14:30.280 brand new, brand new. Wow do you I know we 2:14:30.360 --> 2:14:34.280 spoke about this earlier and I think he he uh. 2:14:35.560 --> 2:14:38.600 I asked you and I'm gonna just reiterate it in 2:14:38.680 --> 2:14:41.800 a different way. But didn't know how much important you 2:14:41.920 --> 2:14:48.680 are to this culture. I don't know that I taking away. No, No, 2:14:48.840 --> 2:14:51.840 but I believe me. I do know. That's why I was, like, 2:14:52.240 --> 2:14:55.800 we've been I can say that kind of stuff. You 2:14:55.920 --> 2:15:00.600 need somebody like that to say that culturally, U civil 2:15:00.720 --> 2:15:04.400 rights in that. Otherwise we're just talking shit. You know, 2:15:04.520 --> 2:15:07.400 we're just kicking it and talking shit. But to say 2:15:07.400 --> 2:15:10.480 it like that, you need somebody to put it on 2:15:10.640 --> 2:15:13.400 that kind of light that. I mean. I was at 2:15:13.440 --> 2:15:15.760 the college today, I was, what is the coach? They 2:15:16.000 --> 2:15:19.200 just being Crump college. They just changed the name of 2:15:19.320 --> 2:15:22.920 quot Ben Crumb. We're out here, yeah, and it's and Nehew, right, 2:15:22.960 --> 2:15:25.920 his nephew is a nephew is here. His nephew is here. Oh, 2:15:26.120 --> 2:15:29.440 where's it that? Whe's the college that Saint Thomas? Yeah, 2:15:29.480 --> 2:15:33.640 Saint Thomas. Okay, so that's what That's what I'm doing, 2:15:34.320 --> 2:15:37.080 not to to that's fine, to live up to that 2:15:37.280 --> 2:15:40.120 kind of shit. That's them. You know, I'm too lazy 2:15:40.200 --> 2:15:42.800 to do. I don't know. Don't try to preach. I 2:15:42.880 --> 2:15:44.800 can talk shit all day. No, but you know what, 2:15:45.000 --> 2:15:48.440 but you know what, um our culture um part of 2:15:48.480 --> 2:15:50.480 the reason. And I'm sorry to get so deep right 2:15:51.200 --> 2:15:53.440 part of shit? How about another one? I thought I 2:15:53.560 --> 2:15:58.200 just drink one shit together, buddy. So but part of 2:15:58.280 --> 2:16:01.760 that reason, Um, I watched recently, I think Dave Chappelle 2:16:02.240 --> 2:16:06.760 and these people go back to Ghana, right, and they went, 2:16:07.560 --> 2:16:11.680 you want to use the bathroom? Okay? Oh but um 2:16:11.760 --> 2:16:15.400 they went back to Ghana and then they start saying 2:16:15.440 --> 2:16:18.880 all this, these things, and what you don't realize is 2:16:18.920 --> 2:16:21.960 that a lot of us they started to think that 2:16:22.440 --> 2:16:25.800 we started in this country as slaves. They didn't realize 2:16:25.840 --> 2:16:28.360 that we were kings and queens. And this is this 2:16:28.480 --> 2:16:32.040 place in Ghana is teaching right. So I saw this 2:16:32.480 --> 2:16:34.480 say that, and I say, damn, you know what if 2:16:34.520 --> 2:16:37.400 we don't notice, if we don't know that we didn't 2:16:37.400 --> 2:16:39.880 started as slaves, we started as kings and queens. If 2:16:39.920 --> 2:16:45.280 we don't know this, um, others won't know that neither. 2:16:45.560 --> 2:16:47.520 So I say that to say this, I just want 2:16:47.560 --> 2:16:50.680 you to know, like as a hip hopper, I've made 2:16:52.040 --> 2:16:57.120 my career through hip hop. Um, I've made my life. 2:16:57.760 --> 2:17:00.800 I was able to save people through it, Pop. But 2:17:00.920 --> 2:17:04.320 if it wasn't for you, and it wasn't for people 2:17:05.080 --> 2:17:10.400 prior to me recognizing who you are, then I don't 2:17:10.440 --> 2:17:12.760 think a lot of us will be here today. Wow. 2:17:14.640 --> 2:17:19.879 And that's it's girl shit like I knew. I knew exactly, 2:17:19.920 --> 2:17:22.080 but you know, I was studying you for months because 2:17:22.080 --> 2:17:24.640 it's once once we started and I was like damn, 2:17:25.200 --> 2:17:29.000 damn and damn. I never stopped saying damn. Every time 2:17:29.080 --> 2:17:32.880 I'll discovered something, something new, and I was just like wow. 2:17:33.160 --> 2:17:35.600 And it's like the thing about it is, we want 2:17:35.640 --> 2:17:38.520 to give you your flowers. We want to continue to 2:17:39.240 --> 2:17:42.000 salute you and to tell you you know you're doing great, 2:17:42.080 --> 2:17:44.880 and to tell you that you're fighting a great fight 2:17:45.040 --> 2:17:48.760 because we're not worried about it. If anybody else does 2:17:48.879 --> 2:17:50.600 or don't be worried about it if we do it 2:17:50.760 --> 2:17:53.480 due and this is the reason why we have to 2:17:53.560 --> 2:17:55.440 do this, and we have to look at you face 2:17:55.520 --> 2:17:57.720 to face, man and man out of eye, and look 2:17:57.720 --> 2:18:00.720 at your beautiful family and say, we appreciate you. You 2:18:00.760 --> 2:18:03.440 appreciate what you do. We appreciate you continue to do it. 2:18:03.720 --> 2:18:07.160 You appreciate your smile getting brighter. You're a smile getting 2:18:07.200 --> 2:18:13.680 brighter because because so many I've been through what you 2:18:13.920 --> 2:18:15.920 you've been through, so and so many people have been 2:18:15.959 --> 2:18:17.640 through what you you've been through, and you know what 2:18:17.800 --> 2:18:21.080 they become. They become bitter people, and you ain't better. 2:18:21.240 --> 2:18:24.040 You're sitting here with a smile this whole time, and 2:18:25.120 --> 2:18:26.959 this whole that I when I say this whole time, 2:18:26.959 --> 2:18:28.600 I don't mean this whole time here. I mean this 2:18:28.720 --> 2:18:31.480 whole time in life. And I watched you with your 2:18:31.600 --> 2:18:33.040 recent performance. I don't know. I think it was in 2:18:33.120 --> 2:18:35.520 New Orleans, I'm not I'm not sure. And you had 2:18:35.560 --> 2:18:37.800 on a red shirt and I'm just in a red 2:18:37.879 --> 2:18:40.160 suit and you sitting there and I'm just looking. I'm 2:18:40.200 --> 2:18:44.920 like that man, smile got brighter, it got better, and 2:18:45.280 --> 2:18:47.600 my weapon I learned that ship worked a long time ago. 2:18:50.120 --> 2:18:54.400 I got a permanent crease. No but to me, let me, 2:18:54.440 --> 2:18:56.320 let me just say, it's an outside of that's looking in. 2:18:56.840 --> 2:18:59.280 I'm just saying, you know, that's what I strive to be. 2:18:59.440 --> 2:19:02.000 You know, like as as at a time, I'm gonna 2:19:02.000 --> 2:19:04.600 be honest with you. You know, I've been doing rap 2:19:04.840 --> 2:19:07.240 for twenty five years, but it's been time where I 2:19:07.320 --> 2:19:09.240 got on stage and I just did not want to 2:19:09.280 --> 2:19:12.640 be there. Like I gave a horrible show. I did 2:19:12.720 --> 2:19:15.240 not participate with the people. The people start putting out 2:19:15.280 --> 2:19:18.920 their phones and I was just like I just did 2:19:19.040 --> 2:19:21.600 not want to be there because I didn't have the 2:19:21.680 --> 2:19:24.440 same amount of love that I had when I first 2:19:24.480 --> 2:19:29.439 started get jaded. Of course, of the transition, the transition 2:19:29.480 --> 2:19:32.320 that went from YO, look at me, motherfucker, to now 2:19:32.400 --> 2:19:34.280 it's like I just feeling you because I want to 2:19:34.280 --> 2:19:36.600 show my girlfriend, or I'm just feeling you because I 2:19:36.680 --> 2:19:39.760 want to show my homeboy. Yeah, you started analyzing it 2:19:40.360 --> 2:19:43.680 and figuring out what people do. Ye always danger, I 2:19:43.760 --> 2:19:46.520 used to tell people in the audience, They've been looking 2:19:46.560 --> 2:19:49.920 at us trying to analyze what all these niggas doing 2:19:50.000 --> 2:19:56.360 up here. You can't even count us. You can't analyst 2:19:56.720 --> 2:20:00.520 because we're doing everything to be unanalyzed. Were doing this 2:20:00.680 --> 2:20:03.879 on purpose. You can't even count us. So you pay 2:20:04.000 --> 2:20:07.160 money to come to see the show. Y'all enjoy this show, 2:20:07.640 --> 2:20:12.000 and you know, and because the people leaving up there, 2:20:12.240 --> 2:20:14.840 they'll come to the show coming in. Man, this ain't 2:20:14.879 --> 2:20:17.720 gonna be shit. I mean there's certain attitude, certain people 2:20:18.879 --> 2:20:21.760 normal not even thinking about it. This I'm going you know, 2:20:21.840 --> 2:20:23.760 but this ain't gonna But if you call them out 2:20:23.800 --> 2:20:27.080 on it, hey, you can analyze. You wanted you're gonna 2:20:27.080 --> 2:20:29.640 miss the show. Once they realize that, then they lay oh, 2:20:29.760 --> 2:20:32.360 try to pay attention to this motherfucker, and then they 2:20:32.480 --> 2:20:35.040 end up Damn, they here with us. When we get 2:20:35.080 --> 2:20:37.320 ready to leave, they're in the parking lot because most 2:20:37.360 --> 2:20:39.720 people thinking about let me get to the parking lot 2:20:40.040 --> 2:20:41.920 before the other people get there so I can get 2:20:41.920 --> 2:20:44.560 out there, don't get stuck in the traffic. We make 2:20:44.600 --> 2:20:47.680 them stay till the last minute trying to figure out 2:20:47.680 --> 2:20:50.280 what the book else they gonna do. God, I call 2:20:50.360 --> 2:20:52.640 them out on it. That way you can actually be 2:20:53.040 --> 2:20:55.800 loosening up to have fun as opposed to trying to 2:20:55.800 --> 2:20:58.800 analyze what the days about to that? Did you pay 2:20:58.920 --> 2:21:02.440 money to see this show? Getting baid s like that? 2:21:02.520 --> 2:21:08.920 Then the good time a good time. In that way, 2:21:09.520 --> 2:21:11.240 we all end up having to be even at the 2:21:11.320 --> 2:21:14.680 same time and to talk a lot. Damn. You know 2:21:14.840 --> 2:21:21.960 you ever heard of versus versus versus versus? Yeah, I 2:21:22.080 --> 2:21:26.040 don't know who to do it with. He wou want smoke. 2:21:26.400 --> 2:21:28.720 It sounds like you want smoke. You're like, who who 2:21:28.800 --> 2:21:31.960 want it? That's what I interpreted it. He can do it, 2:21:32.600 --> 2:21:35.960 he can do it against himself. He looked at me, 2:21:36.120 --> 2:21:40.440 like what against We started to do that? We started 2:21:40.480 --> 2:21:43.320 to do that? Well, who swiss beast? Called. You know, 2:21:43.480 --> 2:21:45.840 we talked. We talked with them. We wanted to dude 2:21:46.760 --> 2:21:51.800 people Parliament funka deli and versus George Clinton and the 2:21:51.879 --> 2:21:57.720 people that sampled us, the people me and the people 2:21:57.760 --> 2:22:02.480 that sampled us against Parliament funk and everything would be wow. 2:22:03.480 --> 2:22:09.320 I wasn't ready anybody I could, I could do that 2:22:09.480 --> 2:22:12.120 with and get them in it. So that way to be. 2:22:13.120 --> 2:22:15.800 But we guys, playing list set up? Can we get 2:22:15.800 --> 2:22:18.600 his playing playlist? That's want to do five seconds of 2:22:18.760 --> 2:22:22.240 his first fifteen records of his playlist police. I just 2:22:22.280 --> 2:22:24.280 wanted to let you know you're smoking. Everybody money's on you, 2:22:25.480 --> 2:22:28.879 just in case anybody wanted to versus, Well, my money's listen. 2:22:28.959 --> 2:22:31.119 While we set that up, I'll be revistive. I didn't 2:22:31.160 --> 2:22:33.720 ask you this, so I'm que and American. I want 2:22:33.760 --> 2:22:43.760 to know any Latin Cuban scoan. So there was influences. 2:22:45.480 --> 2:22:47.480 That was the number one R and B song in 2:22:47.640 --> 2:22:56.960 New York, New Jersey in eighteen fifty six, Take You 2:22:57.000 --> 2:22:58.960 Gotta Set Up and in the B side of it 2:22:59.360 --> 2:23:03.720 with your Come You that was the B side of it. 2:23:04.280 --> 2:23:06.040 That was the B side of B side of the 2:23:06.160 --> 2:23:11.640 nineteen fifty six Wow our cast right outcast sample this, 2:23:13.080 --> 2:23:16.680 our cast, sample this, A lot of people sample this 2:23:17.280 --> 2:23:34.160 wasn't just outcast her that. I'm just no no okay, 2:23:36.520 --> 2:23:42.600 don qute dog. You got the snoop dog record right there. 2:23:46.000 --> 2:23:47.879 I'll take a shout. You want a shot, He'll take 2:23:47.879 --> 2:24:05.880 a shot. Qute dog. Shot that you get the stupe. 2:24:11.879 --> 2:24:14.280 Let me get you a shot. Turn up, turned up 2:24:14.440 --> 2:24:16.640 and be getting my shot. Get it down, turn it up. 2:24:16.720 --> 2:24:20.320 You gotta get my shot. Shot too, yo yo, cleared up. 2:24:20.959 --> 2:24:23.080 We gotta get him my shot real quick. He got 2:24:23.160 --> 2:24:24.760 you deserved this one, and give me your shot. I 2:24:24.840 --> 2:24:28.680 got I didn't shot on all right, let's go king 2:24:29.040 --> 2:24:39.960 all right, father, let me get a shot. We finished 2:24:40.000 --> 2:24:44.560 the Mama water Baby, take them on. We finished it. 2:24:44.800 --> 2:24:49.520 The Corona Corona virmus. This is this. Don't look chilled 2:24:49.560 --> 2:25:03.920 at all? Ready? You ready to excellent? Who that was? Terry? Look? 2:25:06.800 --> 2:25:14.920 I knew? Yeah? Bragle love Yeah, next work, gonna'll be 2:25:15.000 --> 2:25:17.879 wilding out in this movie. Can we have a little fun? 2:25:18.040 --> 2:25:22.280 We have a little fun. Oh remember the celebration, George, 2:25:22.360 --> 2:25:27.560 celebrate you and he gonna sooke India, y'all versus I 2:25:27.720 --> 2:25:37.800 got my money on George, what's your In my mind, 2:25:37.879 --> 2:25:39.920 the reason why y'all kind of funck is y'all got 2:25:40.000 --> 2:26:09.840 an ugly funk face shot. We didn't want one shot. 2:26:09.920 --> 2:26:13.240 Let's go. I was like, I was, you want my majuana, bro, 2:26:13.480 --> 2:26:20.320 you want some majuana, bro, I'm seen in your faced. Dude, dude, 2:26:24.320 --> 2:26:29.800 come oh, come on man, God damn ya. I didn't 2:26:29.840 --> 2:26:33.080 think he was gonna do that. Look, she got you too. 2:26:33.240 --> 2:26:35.000 You got too. You know you gotta do too. You 2:26:35.080 --> 2:26:38.800 gotta do black and white. It don't matter if you 2:26:38.920 --> 2:26:47.560 black solo at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cheers, cheers, cheers. Yeah, 2:26:47.600 --> 2:26:50.400 you do that with him first. I'm white, I'm white, 2:26:50.440 --> 2:26:54.160 I'm white. What's that? Mama wanna from the Midican Republic? 2:26:54.440 --> 2:26:56.440 They make that in the kitchen and kids do No, No, 2:26:56.520 --> 2:27:03.880 that's nothing. You got nothing over there? What damn what 2:27:04.040 --> 2:27:20.200 do Yeah? Yeah? Mh damn god, damn it. Oh shit, No, 2:27:20.520 --> 2:27:28.560 he got no no yeah hers who who he can't follow? 2:27:28.840 --> 2:27:32.640 It's a little follow my drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You 2:27:32.760 --> 2:27:34.840 know we got to do version of Tommy Dog coming 2:27:34.840 --> 2:27:39.039 out right, Yes, dog, we already know we established staff. 2:27:39.240 --> 2:27:43.879 Real video is done. Oh my god, oh god, oh 2:27:44.000 --> 2:27:47.800 here we go. Oh that everybody that's that day I 2:27:47.920 --> 2:27:51.440 saw right there. No, that's underground version and did you 2:27:51.520 --> 2:27:56.120 under us? Oh there's a remake. It's a rebig thing. No, 2:27:56.200 --> 2:28:03.520 I'm cool happening. I'm just hearing DAYL I saw my yo. 2:28:03.640 --> 2:28:06.480 But when did you don't came out to Sam on 2:28:06.560 --> 2:28:10.200 this too, to box Sam with the did you goes? Oh, yeah, 2:28:15.400 --> 2:28:18.240 what's do what you like? Calls assens, I realize do 2:28:18.360 --> 2:28:22.240 what you like? Yeah. That was one of the longest 2:28:22.320 --> 2:28:26.280 hip hop records ever. It was so dope, need deep clean, 2:28:26.800 --> 2:28:34.400 long man. One more to do, one more and this 2:28:34.520 --> 2:28:38.880 one more shot, one more shots. It's direction. Hey, you 2:28:38.920 --> 2:28:48.440 ain't been saying don't do that? Just lives you shot 2:28:48.480 --> 2:28:55.040 at the man? There he goes, I'm doing sad. Yeah. Yeah, 2:28:55.720 --> 2:29:15.720 look cheers, not cheerous, serious, appreciate you and keeping so much. Okay, okay, 2:29:17.320 --> 2:29:23.440 thank you citizens of the universe. Recording. Ain't experien to 2:29:23.480 --> 2:29:27.240 clean to hearing me, hadn't on the mother I am 2:29:27.360 --> 2:29:31.800 the Mothership connected getting down and three D and you're 2:29:31.800 --> 2:29:35.240 like bang your boys and so like contic you need nobody. 2:29:35.280 --> 2:29:40.040 Ain't nobody who needing the boy down? You have shot act. 2:29:40.120 --> 2:29:46.480 I'm ready hold on it. Listen, I'm gonna take this 2:29:46.520 --> 2:29:48.320 shot with you and not you gonna ask you two 2:29:48.400 --> 2:29:50.680 more questions to be gonna wrap it up. But hold on, hold, 2:29:50.800 --> 2:29:57.400 let's do it together. Look, I always asked peas raising up, 2:29:57.600 --> 2:30:03.600 raising up with Joan, Okay, I always gets that makes 2:30:03.600 --> 2:30:14.480 me know. I always ask people it's beautiful, damn our bully, 2:30:15.280 --> 2:30:21.440 our bully. So mister George, right, mister George Clint and 2:30:21.520 --> 2:30:27.240 so my grandkids. Grand mister, I ain't gone. I look 2:30:27.360 --> 2:30:29.280 up to you, so I gotta I gotta address you 2:30:29.400 --> 2:30:35.920 as such. But I always ask people in the midst 2:30:35.959 --> 2:30:40.920 of making history, do you know you making history? Oh yeah, 2:30:41.520 --> 2:30:43.760 you knew? Oh yeah, I'm not hearing that. I mean 2:30:43.800 --> 2:30:46.160 a lot of shit just because I can, I do it, 2:30:46.240 --> 2:30:48.880 and then knowing that sooner or later somebody's gonna peep it. 2:30:49.280 --> 2:30:52.280 So a lot of stuff it's playing in there now. 2:30:53.120 --> 2:30:55.760 I got the platform and I know that. But you're saying, 2:30:55.800 --> 2:30:58.959 when you did we did this crazy music, you knew 2:30:59.200 --> 2:31:03.280 I just gonna lie. I knew that. Yeah, if the 2:31:03.440 --> 2:31:07.880 Motown and what they've done in music and Beatles and 2:31:08.000 --> 2:31:11.360 what they've done, I knew that. Getting me a spaceship, 2:31:11.480 --> 2:31:13.800 get me up and that I was gonna make a 2:31:14.280 --> 2:31:18.000 serious imprint. I knew that, you know, it just couldn't 2:31:18.000 --> 2:31:21.600 be commercial straight commerce had to do it the way 2:31:21.680 --> 2:31:23.920 I do it, and and it was. We were able 2:31:23.959 --> 2:31:26.440 to do it that way and actually have a reason 2:31:26.600 --> 2:31:29.760 for doing it, being able to explain our point of view. 2:31:30.120 --> 2:31:32.800 We had to do our own pr so we can 2:31:32.879 --> 2:31:36.280 put our interpretation on what we were doing. We couldn't 2:31:36.360 --> 2:31:38.840 leave it up to the radio station on the media 2:31:39.000 --> 2:31:41.279 to do it. We would do it and set it ourselves. 2:31:41.320 --> 2:31:46.240 On the album covers, we talked about the people on fans, 2:31:46.720 --> 2:31:50.720 so we pretty much colored and directed what people thought 2:31:50.720 --> 2:31:53.440 about us. You know, over the years we know that 2:31:53.560 --> 2:31:56.760 that's important. That's why I say TikTok, and I know 2:31:56.840 --> 2:31:59.480 how to get on there and get in with who's 2:31:59.520 --> 2:32:02.520 ever run and ship and be down with them and 2:32:02.720 --> 2:32:05.040 you be accepted as that. So basically you say you 2:32:05.160 --> 2:32:07.360 knew your legacy. Yeah, I was planning now, but you 2:32:07.400 --> 2:32:09.480 couldn't understand where it was gonna No, I didn't know 2:32:09.520 --> 2:32:12.640 where when you was gonna fall? Will I be here? 2:32:12.840 --> 2:32:15.640 Not right? I knew that I set up plans. I 2:32:15.720 --> 2:32:19.959 mean the copyright, the paperwork for the lawsuits. I left 2:32:20.000 --> 2:32:23.160 them all over this country with different people. That's gonna 2:32:23.160 --> 2:32:28.880 be able to bring them out influentially, influentially like the style, yeah, 2:32:29.000 --> 2:32:31.880 oh yeah, nature. He's so outside of the box, like 2:32:32.000 --> 2:32:34.200 I think, I don't know. Don't quote me on this, 2:32:34.320 --> 2:32:38.040 but I feel like going back from Africa Bombada and 2:32:38.240 --> 2:32:41.640 moving on Andre three thousand. When he started dressing the 2:32:41.680 --> 2:32:44.879 way he was dressing, it was all linked balls. Whenever 2:32:44.920 --> 2:32:48.080 I find somebody that's actually you free people people in 2:32:48.200 --> 2:32:50.880 us and do it, I'm gonna get with them so 2:32:51.080 --> 2:32:53.520 they get They get it by being hanging with me. 2:32:53.760 --> 2:32:56.080 I get if I've been hanging with them, right, you 2:32:56.200 --> 2:32:59.560 know pretty they all tell the same story. It's cool, dude, 2:32:59.600 --> 2:33:02.800 he's right when they when Kendrick believe me, I knew 2:33:03.440 --> 2:33:07.840 my grandkids told me and like this show. When they 2:33:07.920 --> 2:33:15.720 told me we would love granddad, granddad. Do this show 2:33:16.200 --> 2:33:23.880 that you you like doing this show? Granddaughter? They keep 2:33:23.959 --> 2:33:31.480 me up. It makes she's going there with Kendrick. She said, 2:33:31.600 --> 2:33:33.720 oh you like him, you like him? He talked like 2:33:34.320 --> 2:33:36.520 and when he came it was I always got some 2:33:37.000 --> 2:33:40.080 one that got a little smaller. Grandkids they got me 2:33:40.160 --> 2:33:45.720 up on all of the hip Hop, the Trap, the 2:33:45.840 --> 2:33:50.560 Atlanta Cruise, all the new people, the Megoes and everybody, 2:33:50.680 --> 2:33:53.480 all of them. I stay up on it coast. They 2:33:53.959 --> 2:33:56.760 let them influence me and tell me who's doing what. 2:33:57.280 --> 2:34:00.240 And they had me on TikTok doing you know, oh 2:34:00.280 --> 2:34:02.560 I know it did this is hey. I knew just 2:34:02.680 --> 2:34:06.760 the kid. I knew the kids doing that. And you 2:34:06.800 --> 2:34:08.920 can see the old folks getting in there now trying 2:34:08.920 --> 2:34:13.199 to you know that that's the new place to hang out. Yeah, 2:34:13.440 --> 2:34:17.680 you know, and so yeah, I get with whoever's happening. 2:34:18.160 --> 2:34:20.160 That works for me, just like it works for them. 2:34:20.520 --> 2:34:22.080 They called me to be on that record, I called 2:34:22.160 --> 2:34:24.720 them back. That's my only thing by doing one with you? 2:34:24.879 --> 2:34:27.920 You doing with me? Right? Kenrid did the record with 2:34:28.080 --> 2:34:31.320 me and you know, and he didn't realize that I 2:34:31.400 --> 2:34:34.080 could put that to use like he could. I got 2:34:34.200 --> 2:34:37.320 him doing videos with me, getting all the way down 2:34:37.680 --> 2:34:39.320 when when I did it when him was you know, 2:34:39.480 --> 2:34:41.760 I was a feature. I was in there with him, 2:34:42.080 --> 2:34:43.800 but I got more out of it than he did. 2:34:44.920 --> 2:34:49.359 Is it fair to call that equity and legacy? Yeah, definitely, 2:34:49.440 --> 2:34:52.640 equity and legacy. I mean there is equity and legacy. 2:34:53.280 --> 2:34:57.440 You keep that legacy going and the family together so 2:34:57.600 --> 2:35:02.240 they be able to I didn't be friends with each other. 2:35:02.440 --> 2:35:05.760 All of that. You's got to be managed before it happened, 2:35:06.000 --> 2:35:07.600 because if you don't do it before it happened, if 2:35:07.600 --> 2:35:10.480 you ain't got a wheel and all that shit together, 2:35:10.920 --> 2:35:14.320 you can leave everybody but the instincts of trying to 2:35:14.400 --> 2:35:17.000 get over. But I'm not even talking about financially or 2:35:17.080 --> 2:35:19.520 even like like you know, like in the way you're talking. 2:35:19.520 --> 2:35:21.080 I'm talking about in the way that the artists are 2:35:21.120 --> 2:35:23.840 working with you. Oh yeah, it's equity and legacy like 2:35:24.040 --> 2:35:27.560 these artists. Nah, they love you. You're acting who you are. 2:35:27.760 --> 2:35:30.920 Oh yes, it's why they are. I mean, there nothing 2:35:31.000 --> 2:35:32.640 they can't ask me. They can call me and say 2:35:33.080 --> 2:35:36.280 you do this, and I'm down for doing it. I 2:35:36.320 --> 2:35:38.680 can see you a positive reason for me doing it 2:35:39.000 --> 2:35:42.240 even if we ain't got talking about money, because first thing, 2:35:42.360 --> 2:35:46.039 most people, how much you wanta get, we can figure 2:35:46.040 --> 2:35:49.680 out somebody you got a shot. I'm gonna be on 2:35:49.879 --> 2:35:52.760 all that all I got to if I'll be seeing 2:35:52.840 --> 2:35:56.440 I'm gonna get mine. You just let me just reiterate 2:35:56.480 --> 2:35:59.640 what you mean to us, like there is no matter, 2:35:59.720 --> 2:36:05.520 there's no The thing is when artists from our generation 2:36:05.720 --> 2:36:10.119 or generation prior to us or after us. It's an honor. Yeah, 2:36:10.360 --> 2:36:14.080 it's an honor. No, No, it's really is I No, No, 2:36:14.160 --> 2:36:17.520 it's really is an honor. It's not someone someone you know. 2:36:18.280 --> 2:36:20.199 You know, I don't know if you know I cloud around. 2:36:20.200 --> 2:36:22.280 I play around just the only time it was one 2:36:22.280 --> 2:36:24.840 of them. I'm not playing around? Is it's an honor 2:36:24.959 --> 2:36:30.600 to be in your presence for um our generation to 2:36:31.040 --> 2:36:33.440 sit back and say, because you know, just just me 2:36:34.480 --> 2:36:37.280 playing the records and just sitting around and me looking 2:36:37.320 --> 2:36:40.920 at certain people who's younger than thirty reaction and saying, 2:36:40.959 --> 2:36:45.760 that's Snoop Doggs record, Like, no, it's not, it's a 2:36:46.920 --> 2:36:50.480 that's dr J record. No funny when you're when you're 2:36:50.520 --> 2:36:54.279 like your great grandkids and say, oh you're playing snod 2:36:54.400 --> 2:36:58.040 how you playing? You know it's money. You don't even 2:36:58.080 --> 2:37:02.080 have to defend. You like learned that learning. Why do 2:37:02.120 --> 2:37:03.920 you let me keep thinking? Why you let me keep 2:37:03.959 --> 2:37:10.600 thinking of beautiful people? No? Because you know, hey not 2:37:11.240 --> 2:37:16.600 and you snow how you sitting back and most people, 2:37:17.800 --> 2:37:20.280 you know, they think that record again with him when 2:37:20.320 --> 2:37:23.560 he took over death death okay, And you don't have 2:37:23.640 --> 2:37:26.280 to read. They have to read the spam. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:37:27.280 --> 2:37:30.280 that whole thing. I went back and redid it. But 2:37:30.600 --> 2:37:34.200 you know, for him and hey, when you ready for 2:37:34.280 --> 2:37:37.520 me to come in, you know, call me him most 2:37:37.600 --> 2:37:40.560 cube Qube did the last album with me, him and 2:37:40.800 --> 2:37:44.480 Kim ricks on the same song. Wow. Well you know 2:37:45.480 --> 2:37:49.160 we want you to know why because your legends, legend, 2:37:49.680 --> 2:37:55.240 your icons, icon, you're tycoon's tycoon. You're a person that 2:37:55.400 --> 2:37:58.800 has to be you know, saluted every single which way 2:37:59.440 --> 2:38:03.360 of it. So excited man, um, I couldn't believe you 2:38:03.440 --> 2:38:04.800 know what I mean? Like when I get people like 2:38:04.879 --> 2:38:08.000 you and Paddy LaBelle like like it's it's like it's 2:38:08.200 --> 2:38:11.440 it's chills in my body because everybody else too, I 2:38:11.560 --> 2:38:13.879 kind of get flowers to at some point I compete 2:38:13.920 --> 2:38:17.600 it with them in music. So it's like, ah, but 2:38:17.840 --> 2:38:20.600 I ain't compete with you. I ain't compete with you. 2:38:20.760 --> 2:38:23.960 Cannot compete and I cannot compete dispect you. No, I 2:38:24.040 --> 2:38:26.600 cannot compete with him. I cannot compete. And what I'm 2:38:26.640 --> 2:38:34.680 saying is everybody you know, uh deserves day flowers. And 2:38:34.800 --> 2:38:39.280 I'm telling you you deserve a garden man. You know 2:38:39.320 --> 2:38:43.120 what I mean? You deserve a garden I loved. Give 2:38:43.160 --> 2:38:48.320 me some more of that greene. You got some hold 2:38:48.320 --> 2:39:07.480 on you talking like keep on man, drink okay, but 2:39:07.840 --> 2:39:12.240 na for real? Um. You know when me and if 2:39:12.840 --> 2:39:15.360 Um we got together and we was like, man, we 2:39:15.560 --> 2:39:19.520 really want to make sure our legends is appreciated. Our 2:39:19.680 --> 2:39:26.080 legends are I don't know what. We just wanted to 2:39:26.160 --> 2:39:28.720 celebrate the cool. We want to celebrate it. Oh, Man 2:39:30.040 --> 2:39:33.000 to call me, No, Man, definitely, We're gonna call you again, 2:39:33.320 --> 2:39:35.000 call me again because we want you. We want you 2:39:35.000 --> 2:39:43.440 to do your own podcast. Goddamn y yeah, yeah, And 2:39:43.640 --> 2:39:48.000 we want you to know you are a beacon. I 2:39:48.120 --> 2:39:50.200 want you to know we got your back. You know, 2:39:50.520 --> 2:39:53.280 me just digging into your story and me knowing your story, 2:39:53.360 --> 2:39:55.360 but me thinking I knew your story, and then me 2:39:55.680 --> 2:39:57.800 you know when we when we booked you, just just 2:39:57.920 --> 2:40:00.800 digging in. It's just like wow, It's kind of crazy 2:40:00.840 --> 2:40:04.920 because your story is my story. It's just thirty years later. 2:40:05.360 --> 2:40:06.880 For how the fuck do we and you have the 2:40:06.920 --> 2:40:10.840 same story thirty years later? That means the same system 2:40:11.040 --> 2:40:14.720 was in effect from then. The record hasn't changed, you 2:40:14.720 --> 2:40:17.160 know what I'm saying. So when I'm sitting there because 2:40:17.240 --> 2:40:19.760 because to be honest with you, I'm not supposed to 2:40:19.760 --> 2:40:22.720 identify with your story your your story. My story is 2:40:22.720 --> 2:40:25.800 supposed to be better than yours because and then when 2:40:26.000 --> 2:40:28.320 we have the same exact story, it's just like fuck, 2:40:29.240 --> 2:40:32.360 this system might not change unless we say it. You 2:40:32.480 --> 2:40:35.840 have to say it you get into existence. Yes, so 2:40:36.000 --> 2:40:39.160 I want to say to you, you know, face to face, 2:40:39.280 --> 2:40:43.039 man and man, we appreciate you. We got your back. 2:40:44.200 --> 2:40:46.840 Whenever you want to come and talk some shit. This 2:40:47.040 --> 2:40:49.440 ain't no other podcast on all the platform in the world. 2:40:49.440 --> 2:40:53.560 You can smoke some weed, you bring your grandchildren, you 2:40:53.640 --> 2:41:04.959 bring the whole band. Welcome. We're gonnacome because you're gonna 2:41:04.959 --> 2:41:07.640 get that new copy of Atomic that absolutely, but truly 2:41:07.760 --> 2:41:11.160 and honestly, truly and honestly we want you to understand 2:41:11.200 --> 2:41:14.280 those flowers and the green flowers as well. But we 2:41:14.360 --> 2:41:21.480 want you to understand that you are beacon in our community. 2:41:22.240 --> 2:41:24.560 And in case we don't, we talk about you so 2:41:24.720 --> 2:41:27.520 gracefully when you're not around. Let's talk about you so 2:41:27.640 --> 2:41:38.680 gracefully when you are around. Appreciate you, appreciate slut And 2:41:38.760 --> 2:41:40.920 if you're ever having a bad day or if you're 2:41:40.959 --> 2:41:42.720 ever having an awkward day, or if you're having an 2:41:42.840 --> 2:41:46.879 off day, just look at yourself in the mirror and say, 2:41:47.000 --> 2:41:51.840 hip hop wouldn't be hip hop without me. Absolutely, remember 2:41:52.280 --> 2:41:58.760 remember that that was hard? Did I kill that? Yeah? No, no, no, no, 2:41:58.920 --> 2:42:01.040 no no no. But by the way, because I'm in 2:42:01.320 --> 2:42:04.160 it with a joke, but I'm not joking. Honestly, that 2:42:04.360 --> 2:42:06.920 was not a joke at all. When I really listened 2:42:06.920 --> 2:42:09.400 to your catalogue and its entirety. And I don't use 2:42:09.480 --> 2:42:12.840 big words, but just bear with me. Entirety is a 2:42:12.920 --> 2:42:17.400 big word for me. I'm listening to your catalogue, entire team, 2:42:17.400 --> 2:42:20.160 I'm thinking, oh shit, this motherfucker gave birth to the 2:42:20.240 --> 2:42:24.080 West Coast. And then quickly reminded me there's no all 2:42:24.160 --> 2:42:27.200 of hip hop, not just the West Coast mother Flipper. 2:42:27.879 --> 2:42:31.320 We were talking about Flipper earlier, right, So it actually 2:42:31.360 --> 2:42:34.680 started on the East Coast. Yeah, it really did. Yeah, 2:42:34.680 --> 2:42:37.520 I mean were there with it. Like I said, Sam, 2:42:37.720 --> 2:42:42.320 start bothering them. It was real early, early, early, early 2:42:42.440 --> 2:42:44.800 early hip hop at seventy eight, when we could see 2:42:44.840 --> 2:42:48.720 the influence from their dress. Cold. But I just want 2:42:48.760 --> 2:42:51.119 you to know how much you appreciate it. We want 2:42:51.120 --> 2:42:53.360 you to know that's what we do over here and 2:42:54.600 --> 2:42:57.400 every day of your life. Just in case you ever 2:42:57.680 --> 2:42:59.200 like I said it again, but I'm gonna say it 2:42:59.640 --> 2:43:02.320 just to reiterate what I said. If you ever having 2:43:02.360 --> 2:43:04.200 a bad day, you just look at yourself in the 2:43:04.280 --> 2:43:11.120 mirror and say, a hot nigga right now sampled me. 2:43:13.240 --> 2:43:16.080 They needed me to move forward. 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