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Speaker 1: for drunk back drink chess, motherfuckings, New Year's z It's

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Speaker 1: And this is what the tip crazy wall yeapp y'awa

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Speaker 1: If and um we get blessed, this is this is

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Speaker 1: probably this is beyond blessed. This is an icon, a legend,

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Speaker 1: This man is, like I said, the icon of icons.

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Speaker 1: I started back pre motown here. I started back in

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Speaker 1: on the So I did nothing, but he was right there.

426
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Speaker 1: I was right David's walking. Yeah. I could tell. His

427
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Speaker 1: nephew was like God, said James Brown. You know I

428
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: hype is a motherfucker. I'm like James Brown. And then

429
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: his nephew over way, he just turned it. He said, hey,

430
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: keep sampling my ship down. Do you gotta feel like that? Always?

431
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Like I said, we turn yall? Yeah? Really was I Actually,

432
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't wait for him. I made

433
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Speaker 1: a record called sample some of the disc and some

434
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: of that Wow. So you know, early on I made

435
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: sure that you couldn't. I moved the drums out the way.

436
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: I moved the worms out the way. I isolated different things,

437
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: different variations, and we five versions of that. Eric Herman

438
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: lived by that nausea too. I mean, we made sure

439
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: we was connected to it. That's the thing with me.

440
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm down with the next new generation. You want to

441
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: get on your nerve, the new music that get on

442
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: your nerve when you think it ain't music, I'm down

443
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: with them. Soon as I hear somebody to get that vibe,

444
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: everybody's agreeing that they ain't shit. I want to know

445
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: what they're doing because that's the next music. You don't

446
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: get that vibe and that you got. They don't pay

447
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: you no attention at all when you had ship. But

448
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: when you get somebody down, everybody agree that you ain't

449
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: was supposed to be happening. I'm like I said what

450
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: they say on your When Cardi B came out, my

451
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: family can tell you I was on not for what

452
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: she was saying. I just know that vibe it was.

453
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: I can tell everybody was doing she ain't. Who has

454
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: he done? Who is? I want to who is she?

455
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Because you can tell you don't get that series of

456
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: agreement you shouldn't do this or this ain't because it

457
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: ain't that important to most people if you ain't that,

458
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be the next one. And that's who

459
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: I always picked the right ones that I always I

460
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: got a good record on. Knocked up myself on the

461
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: shoulder for picking who's next. I mean on their first

462
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: Tool three records, I was what's what's the name of Rihanna?

463
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: She did sos? I was all over that record, and

464
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: my grandkids tell me, man, there that record has been

465
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: out just the second time around, But the second time

466
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: around they blew up and she didn't stop. I mean

467
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: those umbrellas, but I knew because her vibe on that

468
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: first record, it had that Moretown theory on it. And

469
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: but it tells me more than it's the person that

470
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: anybody that picked certain things, you can tell them they're

471
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Speaker 1: not just picking this because they they had some thought

472
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: behind it. Now they had some work behind it. The

473
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: ones that worked, like with friends, he worked all day

474
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: every day. You're giving us a French story right now,

475
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I can. Yeah, let's go, let's go. I mean the

476
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: Prince have you up seven in the morning, just seven

477
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: at night when you're on this tour. He pay you worth,

478
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: He pay you for everybody in Bean and tell you

479
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: he pay you good. But your head's gonna work. You

480
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: on call, you on call when the show is over.

481
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: If you want to go to a party, you're gonna

482
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: because he owned that whole day twenty four hours. Say

483
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: you say that Prince was like they comparing him to

484
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, Like even after the show is over,

485
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Prince still want to Praca, you're gonna do a party

486
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: on practice or something. He called me up to this.

487
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: Everybody got a call that he called you to this

488
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: house and want to talk. He used to call me

489
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: to his house. You know, he wants to talk, he

490
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: wants to pick my brain. But the old house a

491
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: mini in Minnapolis, Minniapolis. We was on Paistey Park, Okay,

492
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: I was on Paistey Park. So he want to talk,

493
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: all right, I mean, I mean, you know, you know

494
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: he and doctor ducted us into the Rock and Roll

495
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Wow, Prince did. But he was he

496
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: used to, like I said, get his money worth. He

497
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: had me up to this house and bend in my

498
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: ear about why it was. And so I was telling

499
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: him everything, and then I realized he was getting too mad.

500
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: He was getting slave on his face and read the

501
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: protested women that you might get away with that ship.

502
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be able to get away that I'm

503
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: too old. They know I know better than that, you know.

504
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: And he'd be wanting me to go with him to

505
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: the radio station and curse amount to him. I'm not

506
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: going with you, you know, you know, telling things and

507
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: then I see him doing it. But I've always had

508
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: his back. He always had mine, you know. But he

509
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: was one of those workaholics, just like I said. Again

510
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: and tall Beyonce them when they was Destiny child. They

511
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: worked all day long, every day and anybody that put

512
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: that kind of work in Michael results. Do you want

513
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: to see results when you can do that? You met

514
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: Michael as well, Michael Michael. Them they came to Motown

515
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: doing I want to test about that was Jackson Fire. Yeah, yo, ship.

516
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: We were probably the reason they was win what they

517
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: was winning those that because we were the first black

518
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: group that was looking like that. Besides sliding them came

519
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: out right behind my song slicing them, which is my

520
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: my boy. You know what I'm saying. They came to

521
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: Jackson when they first came to Detroit, they were straight

522
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: Parliament fu del you know. Matter of fact, it did

523
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: one of my songs called I bet you you know

524
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: Wow now we we I made sure whoever the new

525
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, I'm down with him. I wanted

526
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: the outcast, Dungeon family, goodym mob, organized nors, whatever you

527
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: want to call them. I was there when they always won,

528
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: like Parliament funka Deli. I was working with Dallas, Austin

529
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: and Dark. You know, everybody that becomes along that's doing

530
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: something I try to be a part of or whatever

531
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: it is they're doing. Because it's it's gonna be the

532
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: new ship, you know, and then they get on your nerves.

533
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: You can tell the ones they get on your nerves,

534
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: you'd be like, you'd be like, damn that. But then

535
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: the ship is work. It's the new kids. That's the

536
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: version of it. You just have to be able to

537
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: move yourself out of the way. Okay, that's what And

538
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: then it becomes damn, it's pretty good, and what are

539
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: you getting out of it? Does it reinspire you to

540
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: reinspire you and put you up on what's going on? Joe?

541
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Joe ass gonna be old and out of it, because

542
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: that's real. That's what you're supposed to be. You're supposed

543
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: to be old. Let the next one take over. But

544
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: some of us don't want to leave, you know. But

545
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: if you don't want to leave, to stay out of

546
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: the way, you know, get down with whatever they're doing.

547
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a good example, Eminem, he merged no

548
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: matter what rap style comes in, he's still all up

549
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: in their face and you can't get room. And he's

550
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: gonna be like that because he's enthused about hip hop.

551
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: He means that shit right. And so when you like that,

552
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: you can say oh you old school, old school, my ass.

553
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: He'll take your cadence and whoop your hands, you know whatever.

554
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: Could You're gonna have a different cadences, a new generation.

555
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: But and you figure out what what's the theme? What

556
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: they're talking about that? I mean, you get a few

557
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: that's well on. I mean, and that mate, Kendrick is

558
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: my boy. You know what I'm saying. He can talk

559
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: about shit. Ain't nobody's gonna be able to get away with.

560
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: He'd have made that room for himself. Yeah, that's when

561
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: you find that exceptional new one. You know, he's a

562
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: few raid in there that talks about shit and real

563
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: shit that it may not be realpused to even want

564
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: admitted let them talk about to make a record. So

565
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: when I find those kinds of people, I'll pay attention

566
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: to them and find out what story of what where

567
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: I can sneak into that, you know, and we did

568
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: to Pimple Butterfly. I thought I was talking to somebody

569
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: old as me. That's how much he had paid attention.

570
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: I guess to his parents, who was peep on fans

571
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: from you know, from what he was saying. But he

572
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: knew not only that he had theories for what's happening now,

573
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, so everyone's while you get a new good

574
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: one that just blow your brains out, and you have

575
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: to like really give them that space to what they're doing.

576
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, you realize you raised generations like two or

577
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: three they raised me. Yeah, I know, I'm believe me.

578
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm in touch with most of them, you know, but

579
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: they have kids most of the time end up friends

580
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: with their kids, their kids being oh my dad said,

581
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Yeah, we was doing and what you're doing,

582
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, because it's gonna be something fresh and like

583
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: a half hour band as our grandkids and kids of

584
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: mine and the other members and the banders. It's ever.

585
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to setting my ass down and

586
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: direct shit. But they carried the hype and I just

587
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: organized the show. What's your favorite place to perform? Back?

588
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: What's your favorite city or state or country? It changes,

589
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: it changes, yeah, you know it was for a long time.

590
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: It was ansters to him, you know, but now everywhere

591
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: you can get you know, legal weed anywhere. That change

592
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: sometimes of change, but lots of places. We got all

593
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: our fans. We have all kind of fans my age,

594
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: people that knew it from that young kids. It's on TikTok,

595
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, we get them. Also have to look we

596
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: don't have a set list until I won't out to

597
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: look at the audience because I have to see who came.

598
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: That's you know, DJ in the moment, at the moment

599
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: after like that out of town. We could come to

600
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: play the same town on different side of the town,

601
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: and different sets of people will come because you know,

602
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: we know who not to play the loud rock and

603
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: road and get somebody a heart attack, you know, or

604
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: we know not to borce somebody to death by playing

605
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: you know, so nothing type stuff. So we have to

606
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: really look at the audience, you know. And going to

607
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: casinos it is a new problem for us because now

608
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: people that don't usually go to casinos when we play

609
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: that they come, you know, and usually you have to

610
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: have a casino type older crowd before. But yeah, now

611
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: anybody that come there and they be ready to party.

612
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: And then so you got to like whoa how many

613
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: of who came? You know what I'm saying, who we

614
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: got the most of? So after cater to, after cages

615
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: to whoever to be dominant, you know, and then we

616
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: got you know, like Atomic Dog for instance, that's then

617
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: been through all the generations, all the hip hop has

618
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: doesn't use it the song itself ever go anywhere. Yeah,

619
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: we just did a new version of it with the

620
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Q Dogs. You know what I'm saying. This is coming out. Yeah, yeah,

621
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We just did a video,

622
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: and I mean it's gonna blow people in mind, the

623
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: new mix of it, the new version of it. Right,

624
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: did the same song two years ago with the um

625
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: what they call the the cartoon what is that, trolls,

626
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: the trolls. Yeah, yeah, the troll did that with the

627
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: troll on the Trolls movie. And so Tommy Dog ain't

628
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: going nowhere, like I said, and it's coming back so

629
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: hard when you see this Q Dog verse never anywhere.

630
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a person like like my friend

631
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: Louis View was right there, right, he got the red

632
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: shirt arm. He wants to do a record with you,

633
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: He connects with you, and he wants to remake your record.

634
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: How does he go about that? He has to he

635
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: has label cover anybody's cover. Okay, you can cover anybody's Yeah, cover.

636
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: Are you doing this different thing? Yeah? Sapling and covering

637
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: is different things. Okay, the sapling you get permission and

638
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: all it coming. You can cover and do it your

639
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: way with it. Without permission, you just have to pay

640
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: the publisher, right, you know that's the original writer of

641
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: the record. And that's what I'm saying. The writer get paid.

642
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: But you can cover anybody's record, right, Did you realize that, like,

643
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, watching your stories? I watched so many documentaries.

644
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: Did Was there anybody like? All right? Cool? I got

645
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: jerked in the hip hop? Right, so I wanted to

646
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: like give the knowledge to the next younger brother, right? Um?

647
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Was there nobody there like at that time to tell

648
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: y'all about these contracts and tell y'all about publishing, not

649
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: from the R and B side of it, really, No,

650
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: it was always everybody was always they did it to me.

651
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it to the next one. You know,

652
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: that's the one they get getting most people in it.

653
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was done to me,

654
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna get the next one. And they kind

655
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: of set you up and help you do that. If

656
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: you don't pay attention, they'll help you mess up with

657
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: somebody and then blackmail your ass with it. You know,

658
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: since you have to be careful of that No. That

659
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: was my thing is. I came up through Joe Bett,

660
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: and I made him my mind. I'm gonna do whatever

661
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: it take to make it so. I ain't really trying

662
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: to bust nobody. I knew a lot of stuff I

663
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: was doing in the beginning that they were lying into.

664
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: But my thing is just getting out there. I'll stringing

665
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: this shit up later. That's the way most people feel

666
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: about this shit. They'll do it even if they know

667
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: they're doing something wrong. That's exactly what I did. You know,

668
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: to get there free, you're doning for free. Better to

669
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: say you ain't gonna gets you ain't gonna get paid

670
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: for first. That's really what I said, and I was.

671
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: It was all fun. I brought it. I saw my

672
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: first day for five thousand dollars. I knew us five

673
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and I signed happen. Oh yeah, I've done it.

674
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I've done that part. I've done that lots of time.

675
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: No one but my thing. Once I get in there,

676
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: I know how to work my way right to blah

677
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: blah blood. But then there's something that just planed out,

678
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: set you up with The paperworkers are wrong and and

679
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: they changed My was actually changed. She went back into

680
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: that changed the documents. Put it like, Noah, not one time,

681
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: but he's four or five times. I got copies of them,

682
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: so many copies of the change documents. You know, I

683
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: paint too, Like I took some of the documents and

684
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: put it on the painting. That's all. I was doing

685
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: my best to keep this into the public's eye. Wow,

686
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: for as long as I could, you know what I'm saying.

687
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: So I took a lot of the documents and put

688
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: it on the art. That stuff he had. Judge said

689
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: that even though Judge did say that the paperwork was alted,

690
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: was it was alted? It was alted in anything that

691
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: comes out of this paper is null and void. We

692
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: got those kind of papers. Wow, My way was looking

693
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: at me too. Don't make sure you don't say too no. No,

694
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: I got we got we got it, we got it,

695
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: we got it, we got so but it's cool now

696
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm free to telling now I don't bit got suited

697
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: for writing the book about it. Wow, you know what

698
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Then who sued the whole Yeah, yeah, you

699
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: can get the miss in the book and they got

700
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: the book out. Brothers bo like George, Ain't that punking

701
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: kind of hard on you. I say I was harder

702
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: when I started. I'll be hard when I get through

703
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: damn solo silo. So before we get into this game

704
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: and we played all the times called quick time, um

705
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, let me ask this question to be given

706
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: the flowers for people that's been living under a rock.

707
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: Described to people what the mothership is. Oh, the mothership

708
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: is out of mythological vehicle that brought us here from

709
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: the planet. Serious, I like serious called the dog store,

710
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: the dog the dog gun people African, when our myth

711
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: is that it came in brought the funk here. Game

712
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: you know the plant? How to dance, how to dance

713
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: underwater and not get wet? How to be able to

714
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: dance between the molecules of water with that thing such

715
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: a rhythm that you can get out of the way

716
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: within water, who between the molecular structure of you know things.

717
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: That's the rhythm it takes to survive in this world.

718
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: To be able to get in and out of the

719
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: bullshit you have to live through. You got to be

720
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: able to swim through You could you could do in

721
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: order to survive here. You can swim through the water

722
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: and not get wet. That's the rhythm it take to

723
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: survive in this world. So the Mothership was that cycho

724
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: alpha disco bato by arcwa douloop. That was that formula

725
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: that you needed to survive. Plus it was the vehicle

726
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: to take you back to where you come from and

727
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: keep the party jumping. So are we in the mother

728
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: ship all the time. You just have to become aware

729
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, it's always there. I wanted to don't

730
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: work until you got to open your eyes and feel that,

731
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: Oh shit, it's been this way all the time. So

732
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: do I gotta take masculine? I mean, it's everything is evolving.

733
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Now you can do shrooms as legal now, Yeah, you

734
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: can do a haltful of scroos. I gotta dude you

735
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: who gave me the shroo? I mean? But there's lots

736
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: of way dancing, religion, chanting, managing. There's so many rhythms

737
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: that takes you there. You have to find out which

738
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: one works for you. Okay, some people can do it

739
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: from just gift them camp. Some people, you know, some

740
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: people are just inspired with the word, you know, and

741
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: they may not may not even live like that, but

742
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: then it comes through you. You ain't got nothing to

743
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: do with it. Right clear, your body has the drugs

744
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: in it already, all the dophins, dopamines, no legend, all

745
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: that stuff if you knew how to get it. But

746
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: when your kid got y y'all, mister George GLD, we

747
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: don't know, if you know. Our show is about giving

748
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: people flowers. Our show is about making our legends feel proud,

749
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: making our legends know that they legends. So many times

750
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: in this game, when you got ten, twenty thirty years

751
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: in this game, they want to say that your old school.

752
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: They want to say that your washed up. They want

753
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: to say that they kick you out. And we don't

754
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: believe that over here. Now, we believe when you twenty

755
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: thirty years in the game, you just getting, see you

756
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: just get We want to give you your flowers to

757
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: your face, to your face. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

758
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: those are flowers. This is this is this is your flowers. Man.

759
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They last forever, just from

760
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: the drink chats, you know what I mean. God, damn,

761
00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: make some noise it up. What's snoop set? It's like

762
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: it's real roses that are gold plated. Okay, I'm looking

763
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: for Yeah, snoop set it's like it's like a Grammy,

764
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: but it's from your people. You know what I mean.

765
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: You want a lifetime Grammy, didn't you? Huh? You have

766
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: lifetime achievement. Lifetime achievement. Jesus. We've been nominated so many

767
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: times for the you know, the samples and things, but

768
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: they haven't let that as a concept become real yet.

769
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: It'll be pretty soon, you know, because there's so many

770
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: So if a record gets nominated you as if they

771
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: sampled you, you're nominated automatical sometimes and sometimes if you

772
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: if you pay attention to it to be nominated, But

773
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: you have to be up on it yourself, right, because

774
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: you'd be a writer on the record. Yeah, you'd be

775
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: right on it. Yeah you know. Wait, okay, continue, just

776
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: feet that you're spoking blunts? No, no, no, what these are?

777
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: These are? Um you og og hit papers. Okay, say

778
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: you out here, duchess. You look crazy doing it? Yeah

779
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's still yeah. I

780
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: still smoke that shit. Yeah, I'm I'm anging as motherfucker,

781
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: and I know what's wrong for me too. Yeah but

782
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: look this looked apart, so I'm still cool. Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

783
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie what it looked like. Gosher Vegas,

784
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: remember the old school Gorsh Vegas, but the Greenhire Vegas. Yeah, okay,

785
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: black in mouse. Okay, we want to get someone to

786
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: come in. Yeah, you want to get someone from your

787
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: crew to take shot family, one of your grand shot game.

788
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: It's a shot game. So you come on, right. The

789
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: New York had on you look like he ready anyway,

790
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: he was practicing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh you're gonna take yeah, yeah,

791
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: you can grab that chair to grab a street chair.

792
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Now what's your name? Big though

793
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: thirteen and that's that's he's the hype man in the band. Okay, alright, cool,

794
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: well you're gonna be the hype man right now? Are

795
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: we ready? Give him a shot glass? Mister lead, give

796
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: m a shot glass? There you go, you gotta go. Yeah,

797
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: before you start, what are you drinking? Something? White? Right?

798
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: The watermelon? Okay? You mean I want regular? Yeah, I'm regular?

799
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: Okay now so all right, so hold on, hold on, yeah, yeah, no, no, no,

800
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna bull he a long it's a long game.

801
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but you gotta keep

802
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: that one. Now, you gotta keep that one. You set

803
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: yourself up man a right, so sure, so we drink

804
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: with you? Did we drink with you? Though? Yeah? You

805
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: back there is good enough? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah but okay,

806
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: so um, by the way, let me just say this

807
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: minute interview, like I'm really in the presence of a

808
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: legend man, really as you came and considers you know

809
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, appreciate I really like you know, in

810
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: this game, there's so many people who just you know,

811
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: they don't take the time out and just say I

812
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: appreciate you, you know what I mean, And I just

813
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: wanted to just do that before we get into this game.

814
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. But I'm about to kill your hype

815
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: man to get that out of the way. So when

816
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: he when he drunk late, okay you're ready, yeah, okay,

817
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: So it's on you. So if you pick both, if

818
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: you be political and you pick both, then he drinks.

819
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: If you pick are we giving you two two names,

820
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: two names or two things? If you pick one, nobody drinks.

821
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: But if you say both, are neither, which would be

822
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: the politically correct answer, we think you're gonna say both

823
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot because we could tell you a politically great bribe.

824
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: So it's not gonna work out for him. We're gonna

825
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: make it. Are you ready? You're ready? DMX or two pop.

826
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: You're right boo that was season. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

827
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: I can feel your spirit and go like go like

828
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: go like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Going to the

829
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: logo next time, Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, she got you. Okay, Oh,

830
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: this is a good one too, odb or bus markey wow,

831
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: odb Okay, Okay, this one is good. I kind of

832
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: know where you're gonna go. Motile or Epic Records booth

833
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: most I mean it's but epic then cleaned up lately,

834
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean some good Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you

835
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: why it was so great. You got to see a

836
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: smile when he said they cleaned up lady, like that

837
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: was the sh a long time they got. They got

838
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: slive Michael and all that, lady. Okay, you're ready. We

839
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: went there Rolling Stones or the Beatles, Damn Beetles, God

840
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: damn and you knew them both and the Beatles. The Beatles,

841
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean they're like they're like all we're on the

842
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: charge of me. Beatles is like movetown in my life.

843
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: You know another thing that I paid close attention to

844
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: their history. They were it. Okay, them and Jimmy and

845
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: Riggs Okay, slid Stone okay, all right, then you take

846
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: over out to this one. I thought, say this one. Okay,

847
00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or Prince both, let's go score hy Man. Okay, no,

848
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: but just say both for the hell of it. No,

849
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: but you know, it's crazy. You're probably one of the

850
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: only five guests because we've ever had that has Michael

851
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: Jackson and Prince stories. Like some of the times, a

852
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: person might have a print story, some of them might

853
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: have a Michael Jackson story. Mainly none of them have

854
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: a Michael Jackson, Prince, Tupac and Biggie story. Nobody's had

855
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: a Beatles story. I don't think we've ever talked about

856
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: the bleeders. Who's the Bleatles? You know what I'm talking about?

857
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: The black Beetles, Nigga. I'm just around. I'm gonna throw

858
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: some extra ones in there, Okay, cool, start out or devoid?

859
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: A funk starts out or devoted? Which one of you

860
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: alters certain certain os? Right? Both? Okay? Shit already, my

861
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: brother I expected sloan to each other. This is true?

862
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, we got ready ahead, Marvin Gaye or

863
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder. Jesus, we're going there, y'all gonna have the

864
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: thing bottle in the Hello, Okay, we might start playing

865
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: your band right after this. Sly Stone or Booty Collins.

866
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: Oh damn slash Stone slast he picked. Okay, let me

867
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: let me add to that. Booty Collars or Jimmy Hendricks Jimmen. Okay, Hey,

868
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: Mini'm gonna I'm gonna say over Booster there. Hey Mini,

869
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: all right, but you'll pick some harm. You're being honest.

870
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: Red Man, I'm at the man. Oh shit, both my

871
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: boy I shout out, man met the man, both of them.

872
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh this is a good one. Rick James or James Brown.

873
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: James Brown, I'm about to take a shot. He picked

874
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: because yeah programmed, Yeah yeah, Now, m damn, my mom

875
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: was gonna get into a speech. But let me kill

876
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: out the next one again, rock him or Big Daddy

877
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: King rock him. Okay, you're liking this right now, You're like,

878
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: all right, that's cool. Okay. If Weana or Beyonce, I'm

879
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna stop saying this question. For the record, we are

880
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: not putting black women against each other anymore. Both we drink,

881
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: but it did work. You're doing it in the next one.

882
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: You see the next one that Lauren Hill or Missy

883
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: damn both my liver anymore? And what's your name? By

884
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: the way, thirteen you said, am I bad? We're gonna

885
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: take thirteen these? I think we already? Yeah, we had

886
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: thirteen right now? All right? Doing that, that's why, and

887
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: that's why we talked slowing down. Okay, you ready. It's

888
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: a good one. It's a good one. Snoop Dog or

889
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: ice Cube man both yo, get drunk? Yo. You know

890
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: what's crazy though. I like the way he's saying both.

891
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: He's just saying a mass move he smooth. Look, yeah,

892
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: I got the next one. Outcast or ug k all right, No, everybody,

893
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: buddy relaxed outcasts o U g k oh you said outcast? Yeah? Okay?

894
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: Public enemy? Who public enemy or n WA the enemy

895
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: or n W botes. Yeah, I ain't gonna I'm gonna

896
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: take a shot to both for that. Even if you

897
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: were the picked one. Yeah, I would have picked one.

898
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: I would have picked one. And they like brothers almost

899
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: like public Enemy of NWA like coach Q left n WA.

900
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: He went right, that's right, okay, House Party Legends, House

901
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: party or harm Nights. He was in house just when

902
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: I grew up love you know that's my era, the

903
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: half a Dashville they was win we used to wear

904
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: in high school? Was that the last Moe Red Fox

905
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: was in? Yeah? Yeah, but so I can come to

906
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: homem and and that one, so um you're going home

907
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: them nice? Yeah? Okay, I skipped the one you want

908
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: to the New House part of I haven't watched it.

909
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it Lebron's Hot Lense Okay, yeah, I

910
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: ain't seen it. Yeah, and I heard they really filmed

911
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: it at Lebron House. I heard I think production if not, yeah,

912
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, I think he almost so. Yeah,

913
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: that was really agreed. All right, doctor Dre or Eric Serman.

914
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: That's what we got, Erica about to do, new Erica

915
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: about to do all at least your keys Erica. Okay,

916
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: I want to ask what I don't want to ask.

917
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: I want me to ask which the comedian about Erica's instance? Man,

918
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: Now you asked, you just brought up y'all drunk, you

919
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: brought it up. So you have you ever heard of

920
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,479
Speaker 1: Eric about us instance instance or something like that? Yeah,

921
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm smelted, but I was scared to ask as a

922
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: merry man. I don't think I can come to the

923
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: house with Eric about to do instance. I'm just being honest.

924
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how to have that conversation. I want

925
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: to support. I want to support a collector's item. If

926
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: you bought it as merchen, I guess you can't open it.

927
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: You can't open it. But at some point I'm gonna

928
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: take a ship and I'll be like, let me like, yeah,

929
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: I had to ask my bad Okay, this is a

930
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: good one. And he Murphy or Richard Pryde, it's a

931
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: good one both the way. So I look, we definitely

932
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: passed thirteen. Now I got it all over here, I

933
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 1: got it all right. Oh shit, oh shit, I don't

934
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: m hm, holy shit. You got the next one. He

935
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: was responsible for me. Now you get it. Farrell or

936
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: Kanye real podcast or radio radio Today or radio ever ever,

937
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: whatever you want ain't enough radio. I mean radio, Okay,

938
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: I expect that analog or digital analog. I can't replace that.

939
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: That sound, yeah, that you sound? Yeah, yeah, you go.

940
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston or Aretha Franklin, Ratha okay, Apporcino or Robert Jenniro.

941
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: Oh shit, both got that was it. That's it. We

942
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: got the last, last one, last last one. We got

943
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: one that got one more. It was the last one.

944
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks this last question is a trick question. Me

945
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: and FM don't think it. We think it's the only

946
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: time you should say both, right, the only time, but

947
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: most of the time if we should say both as

948
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: the last question, it's called loyalty or respect. Respect? You

949
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: want to explain both? Yeah, okay, Why why he just

950
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: preferred without? I don't know, but it just seemed like

951
00:57:54,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: a couple more ground, right, I respect. That got to

952
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: be loyal. The gotta be loyal. You gotta cool. Yeah,

953
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: we cool. I must still take a shot to that anyway,

954
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: And that is the end of the oh my solo wait,

955
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: so that we could get back to see at one time,

956
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: the word funk was a bad word. It was it

957
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: was curse word. Right, Yeah, you got your ass whip

958
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: for saying fun funk. Yeah, I mean lots of words

959
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, think of um, I mean bitch

960
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: a female dog, right, I mean, but it's been taking

961
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: so far out that I don't think nobody even know

962
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: that the connotation being that, right, you know, it's like

963
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: the Tommy gold dogs coming the dogs. That's one of

964
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: my pet peeves that dogs with POPI man's best friend.

965
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: When you want to give somebody an example, how badge

966
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: treat them treating him like a dog, or the vibe

967
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: you put on somebody say bitch. You know it's like

968
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: so intense I'm doing them a Broadway play right about

969
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: that concept about dogs? How many time we got were

970
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: good good? You can take bathroom breaks, do whatever we want.

971
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: This is a story US Custom Coast Guard dope dog

972
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: nickname bust him. Like most dope sniffing dogs, he's got

973
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: a habit train to have the habit pick up the

974
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: tracks of the traffickers and track them like a rabbit

975
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: up the coastline. K nine Control Substance Retriever Receiver of

976
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: the Golden Nose Award for leading him to the cash,

977
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: cashing in on the stash. Now he's in line for

978
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: his issue of the booty. Never do he do a

979
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: line in the line of duty. He's a dope dohole,

980
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: are you? It's Custom Coast Guard dope dog, keenss of smell,

981
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: tracking the tail tale trails of cardtail dope boots, big

982
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: dope never Graham o Z kilo too low key, gotta

983
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: be tons of p blow bells of lumbo while other

984
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: dogs are sniffing one another's tail. He can track the

985
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: profit from a dope sell straight to the stink account

986
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: big banks banking online, the dirty money not stinking. As

987
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: the wind blows, he followed his nose. Old mac uncle

988
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: had some drugs ciaio, and with those drugs he bought

989
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: some arms cia I own. There was a bang bang

990
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: here in the snorts north there here bang their snort

991
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: banging snorts everywhere. Old mac uncle starts a war ci

992
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: ai oh, and the war on drugs. It's hell on

993
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: a dope dog nose. It smells where the nose goes

994
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: when the does close and the dealer want to hide

995
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: the dope in the booty in the twat didn't they

996
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: squat and make the dogs sniff. They bow the foul

997
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: as they fart in his face. Damn for a shitty

998
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: half A Graham undercovered knarc with a bark, took a

999
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: bite out of crime. Posing as a CNI dog. He

1000
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: bit the blind man with the cane mate of corp.

1001
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: As sure as the dope boats float, the meatia goes comatose.

1002
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: Unrelated over the counter. Overdose now become drug related aiding

1003
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: the embedded by a lot of apprehension and indifference. The

1004
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: bigger the headache, the bigger the pill. Y'all can take

1005
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: your medicine now because you're gonna be ill. When I

1006
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: tell you the deal on dope. There's more profit in

1007
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: pretending that we're stopping it than selling it. M you

1008
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: coming who control of fame, coming the world the pill.

1009
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: To be honest, that sh was so crazy. I didn't

1010
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 1: know whether the clapp I say amen at one point.

1011
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: Oh shit, that was the play. But the whole thing

1012
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: is about dogs and their relation to drugs. You know,

1013
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: some dogs they used to test chemicals on for perfume,

1014
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: some dogs they use for drugs snipping and you don't

1015
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: have to get the dogs. I have it go up

1016
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: your nose, you get nah. And that's what that's the

1017
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: whole thing. We saw him doing it at this college

1018
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: when he was training the dogs, and that's when I

1019
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: really damn. And so I've been yeah and like you said,

1020
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: every time, and they have to go through that shit

1021
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: cold turkey. Yeah. Now, one thing that's amazing, right is

1022
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a good friend of ours in front

1023
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: of the show DJ College, DJ Collins. I think he

1024
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: just announced that he celebrated his fourteenth album. Sure, we

1025
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: don't want to doubt it, but right so I think

1026
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: and he's he's opening um a Snipe store and um

1027
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: South Beast. So so he's announcing his fourteenth album. So

1028
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm searching. And again he blew my fucking mind, y'all

1029
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: throughout nineteen albums in nineteen seventy. Oh yeah, over nineteen years.

1030
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: And no, no, no, DMX was crazy in the seventies

1031
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: or the seventies nineteen, I know that's crazy. Yeah, I

1032
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: mean it's more than that problem because we was doing

1033
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: and we were doing what to called industrial music, which

1034
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: is like punk rock m they because a new wave

1035
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: and was that in England? Like was that England? And

1036
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: here we did a lot of those that a lot

1037
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: of people just now founding out about. You know. It

1038
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: was like the Chili Peppers, but a little heavier, a

1039
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: little harder really, and they were sampling records they were

1040
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: doing like hip hop, sampling it with rock and roll

1041
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 1: band playing with it, you know, with a heavy metal

1042
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: like that was a concept that was it something like

1043
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: like oh my god, those my boy yea, yeah, me

1044
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: to a lot with them too. Nobody not get along

1045
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: with you, just just so you know, huh, there's there's

1046
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: no one in this world that don't get along with you.

1047
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's the thing we made sure. I tell

1048
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: the band that you get along with whoever the fuck

1049
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: is on the show, whether we close in the opening,

1050
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, because that's everybody want to work with you.

1051
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: That's an easy one, you know what I mean, you

1052
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: just I figure out would at some of them you

1053
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: have to stay out of their way. The ultimate network,

1054
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, some of them. Really, what should be even

1055
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: say out because something people I don't think I don't

1056
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: me right, Um, I'm forty five, right, Um. Somebody gets

1057
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: said to me old man. Somebody get said to me young, right,

1058
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: but to me for my generation, everyone salutes you everyone. No,

1059
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's that's gets saluted. You just

1060
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: can't held some people's way concern. What do you mean

1061
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: you stay out of some people with I mean, some

1062
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: people just have their thing that they do. They don't

1063
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: want to conform to being friends with nobody none of that.

1064
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,959
Speaker 1: Like Patty the Bell gets out here in the same seat,

1065
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: and Patty the Bell said it was one artist that

1066
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: she couldn't stand. Not I read the franklin. I don't

1067
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: read the franklin. She was just saying that there was

1068
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: one artist that she couldn't stand and it was a

1069
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: younger artist. It was a younger artist, and and she

1070
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: just like avoided her. And oh yeah, not like you

1071
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: can avoid some people that could keep keep. You have

1072
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 1: to void some people. You gotta be able to read people.

1073
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: That's what it did. You go and they end up

1074
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: liking you too, because they know they ain't got new

1075
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: no problem with you, you know. But you said Patty,

1076
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: I saw Patty thing. I used to do Patty and

1077
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: knownans both. I used to do their hair really when

1078
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: they were like Patty LaBelle and the Blue Bell, that's

1079
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: what they were called. I sold my heart to the

1080
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: junk Man in nineteen fifty nine, sixty sixty, nineteen sixty.

1081
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: I used to do their head, patting head, little waves

1082
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: in the head. No, I didn't know his head as

1083
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: late as the ninety seven I did in Paris just

1084
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: for Sills is literally had my body right now. Yeah.

1085
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: I used to do but we didn't have a barber shop.

1086
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: We did stars here. Everybody came through Jersey, So not

1087
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: just Plainfield or fifteen miles from Plainfield. I mean everybody

1088
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: came through New York. In New York, worked in New

1089
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: York at Playboys on Seventh Avenue, one hundred twenty fifth Street,

1090
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: So you did all kind of stars here. I mean then,

1091
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean Dionne. You know her husband Bill Elliott, the drummer,

1092
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: used to do his heir. I mean all kind of star.

1093
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: I can Dame drop all day when he comes to

1094
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: the head taking a shot just cause I got my shot.

1095
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot just because we're taking a hair shot.

1096
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: You know, listen, I ain't gonna lie, don't. I don't

1097
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: like I think since Patti of the Bell has been here,

1098
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had chills like this. And

1099
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: I got like deeper chills because I'm learning shit that

1100
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: I like. I thought I knew everything about you, and

1101
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't like it just keeps growing and

1102
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: growing and you didn't talk. I'll be thinking of shit

1103
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: that I feeling. Got stuff. I mean for these kind

1104
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: of shows. Shit. But let me ask, let me let

1105
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: me do a left field question. I got it's just

1106
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: left field question. Um, how about a little Richard you

1107
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: ever met a little Richard? Le met a little Richard

1108
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame myself, Eddie

1109
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: in the OJS. Who else? Wait? Wait talking about hold on?

1110
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, guys, Oh god, hold let me

1111
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: just let me just tell you the frost just now.

1112
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: I just said, did you haven't met Richard? It's like, yeah,

1113
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: the hold of who the fuck? Ain't like that? Because

1114
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: I remember that was one of the first places that

1115
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: I've met him and talked to him. I knew him

1116
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: over the years, but we was on something Cleveland, right

1117
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and they were just getting it together. A

1118
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: couple of years after they got together and we had

1119
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: to go. Then I gave some kind of one of

1120
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: my costumes or something myself, him, Eddie, and there's somebody

1121
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: else I just can't remember who it was, but another

1122
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: one of the older guys from that era. Oh yeah, yeah,

1123
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: a little Richard. That was. That was little Richard jereddy

1124
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: Lewis Elvis Presley that I started the group. And you're

1125
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: telling me you did a show with Elvis. No, No,

1126
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: I didn't do the show with Elvis, but I tried.

1127
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: I tried to write songs from him. What's your take

1128
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: on Elvis. You know, there's all this mixtapes. Some people

1129
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: would be like, he stole our ship. No, I mean,

1130
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: did you want people to do your ship? You want

1131
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: people to cover your records. I mean that's what song

1132
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: writing this for. You want somebody else to do it.

1133
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: Then he might have did it too soon. He got

1134
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: more publicity than you. But that's the game you're in,

1135
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean, here's just it was just

1136
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: what was happening. And a lot of pop stations wouldn't

1137
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: play R and B versions of it, but they play

1138
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: the Patty um Elvis is was pat Boom. He did

1139
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 1: a lot of our stung at the same time, the

1140
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: black artist would have him out. Now that hurts you feeling.

1141
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: Wait wait I'm saying I mean that's really wouldn't it

1142
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: be just straight racist at that point? All this is racist?

1143
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, homes Over sounds like, I mean, the whole

1144
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: systems is that. I mean, we're still trying to evolve

1145
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: out that. But everything has been that trying to you know,

1146
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: even and I come on out of it and evolve

1147
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: into we're fighting for them. But yeah, that's what it was.

1148
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean that, but you know, it was just it's normal.

1149
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: Then it's normal then, but it's not as bad as

1150
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: it was. Then. As soon as you got to hit

1151
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: the record, the pop stations can find somebody to do

1152
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: it and they play theirs. Now that that really going

1153
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: to you said, as soon as you had to hit record,

1154
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: the pop stations will get but they wouldn't. Somebody would

1155
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: could cover, and they played their version first because that

1156
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: was the way they knew could work in that And

1157
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: and let me just let say the act that's what

1158
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: Elvis was doing. But yeah, I mean that they were

1159
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: the first d like when some of the first song, Yeah,

1160
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. Wow, be done in New York.

1161
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: Murray the Kay who was out of Brooklyn. He used

1162
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: to have shows with everybody on it and be RMB

1163
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: things black and white and pop and everything. Before the

1164
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: stations broke themselves up into playing R and B pop,

1165
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: everybody's tried to get their own niche that's when it's

1166
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: separated into the real hard thing where you have to

1167
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: cross over to get to the pop station and get

1168
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: a hit regular. But still was in the hood only

1169
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, you had to go through that until the

1170
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: underground stations, which was the FM stations at the time,

1171
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: what WAYM was the main AM was and FM was

1172
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: nobody was on FM but sucking up our whole childhood

1173
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: right now. I mean just like jazz was jazz, gospel, rock,

1174
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: heavy I mean not heavy mail, but rock underground, not

1175
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: you ever just pop rock. They couldn't get on the

1176
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: on the on the underground station. They were the only

1177
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: ones that liked Fmcuse FM is bigger FM, bigger thing.

1178
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 1: Big AM was the hood you right a Crosstown the

1179
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: station change on you as soon as you get across town.

1180
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: And another and then seventies, I mean FM started to

1181
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: become BLS. Prob was one of the first in New

1182
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: York to start becoming playing regular which is the first

1183
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: I think had the hip hop show. Yeah, I mean

1184
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: w w r L was the other stations the magic

1185
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,520
Speaker 1: it played. It was the pop version. But when BLS

1186
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: come out, it was the peg station and plus they

1187
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: sounded better. It was in stereo. AM wasn't in stereo,

1188
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, wow, you AM was just two speakers playing

1189
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: the same thing. So was it just because AM was

1190
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: always just first and then FM was the new thing

1191
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: that was Both AM stations had an FM station. They

1192
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: had both of them, but nobody just listened to them.

1193
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: Nobody had no stereo radio since it was what they

1194
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: were listening one. It wasn't ready for FM. Ye, I

1195
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: mean they would big a station, but you didn't get

1196
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: that that stereo with the music travelical right, And that

1197
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: became popular when Jimmy Hendricks came out, the Beatles came

1198
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: out and all those people that started playing with it,

1199
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: mixing it like mixing it like then when you started

1200
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: hitting ship running around, and then film became saw it

1201
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: becoming popular in the seventies. Wow, I mean groups like

1202
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: James Brown. To us, it was always AM. It was

1203
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: straight a M. You know, that's why I was such

1204
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: good dance music. You know James Brown's song we should

1205
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: call him two for nineteen seven because it was that tight,

1206
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, real tight dance music. You know you didn't

1207
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: want to You couldn't listen to the album of that,

1208
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: not even it's hard to do that. Our first records

1209
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: you get on your nerve all that banging, But when

1210
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: FM come in you can get the colors of the

1211
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: stereo and stuff. Then you actually appreciate it. Let me

1212
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 1: let me ask you real quick, is there something to

1213
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: the idea that They said that a lot of music

1214
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 1: popped off in the seventies, late sixties, in early seventies

1215
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: because of the soldiers coming back from Vietnam. What they

1216
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: were listening, that's what That's what we played too. When

1217
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: we did Maggot Brain Free your Mind. You asked for

1218
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: following America, he's just young. Those were the songs that

1219
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: the soldiers came back sin that helped them through through

1220
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: through the people we were playing to the war. I mean,

1221
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: we was getting that from the rocks groups, you know

1222
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: who from Europe who was talking about that stuff. So

1223
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: we peeped that and we were able to do it.

1224
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: America said jump provocative type concept like biological speculation, you know,

1225
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I was saying stuff that I knew

1226
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: it was political or social. You're not not trying to

1227
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: be no preacher. I always avoided that. You know, people

1228
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: want to. We did it just to bring it up

1229
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: to make you think it was like more like what

1230
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: is because we say some absurd things that I wasn't into,

1231
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: but just I know that people are into. But we

1232
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: do it just because for the shot value. Just so

1233
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: what if this was the case. But there's somebody that's

1234
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: saying this, so we would mirror what the street is saying.

1235
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: That's what art do. Aren't usually mirror what the society

1236
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: is talking about what they're doing, And you ain't the artist.

1237
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: It's just this is what we see, this is what

1238
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: we're reported them. That's hip hop came along and it

1239
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: was doing the same thing with the same concept of

1240
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: playing the dozens. It's that it doesn't into news. That's

1241
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. Even say in WA I was I

1242
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: was sold on New York Rep. I wasn't Compton. I wasn't.

1243
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: But I wasn't even into the West Coast being you know,

1244
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: hardcore gangster rep. That didn't to me. It was like that.

1245
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: But they was into you being hard hook Yeah, but

1246
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 1: they headed out of you. They had grass in the

1247
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: front yard and both parents home. Yeah, I'm from the

1248
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: church with concrete everything. He had to be in the

1249
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 1: projects to be that kind of so vividly to me,

1250
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: that's what that changed. The truth. They was telling the

1251
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: news of what was going on, and I thought, Compton,

1252
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm like that, say, no, ghetto, this isn't a cute

1253
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: to me. I'm New York and the projects on frist

1254
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: Street and New Ork Fort Green projects in Brook. Yeah,

1255
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: that was hard, hard copy square more but sure enough

1256
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: that it was like was popping off. And to me,

1257
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: I was beginning to be more afraid of being there,

1258
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, because I ain't no more than somebody shooting

1259
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: at you and too scared to you know, just just

1260
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: shoot them. And that's the way it was. They weren't

1261
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: nobody wouldn't verstly being gangsters. That was just what was happening.

1262
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: And New York it was almost over by the time

1263
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: it was happening that that police are tell you, man,

1264
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: don't make don't blow my job. Man, come on to

1265
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: take that. I know, you get lost your job and

1266
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 1: problemlah blah, you know, but they get your break. It

1267
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: was hard as hell in la you wouldn't get no breaks.

1268
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah right, but um so let me ask you. You

1269
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: went you went fishing one time in the Bahamas and

1270
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: you saw aliens. I'm going fishing lots of time. Nobody

1271
01:16:53,240 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: ain't seen the aliens has seen U. Well, ufo, how

1272
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: how to put it me? Neither? I mean right now

1273
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: it's the government is saying this crest. I'm so convinced

1274
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: of that. I'm okay with the crazies down any day

1275
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: now I'm ready for that to jump off. That would

1276
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: not surprise me. But I'm saying, what happened. He's time

1277
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: about boots. And I was riding in Toronto and we

1278
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: saw like a laser been dead the middle of the day,

1279
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: nice right laser in the daylight. That's a weird look,

1280
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: that's thing right. Yes, we saw it hit the ground

1281
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: by them, a couple of blocks in front of us.

1282
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: We got there, didn't see. I said, what was that?

1283
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know. So we drove another three minutes.

1284
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: The same thing came down through. Now we're off the highway.

1285
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: We're on us a secondary street. Come right down through

1286
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: the trees, two blocks in front of us. We see

1287
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: it right out of the sky and right through the

1288
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: trees and hit when he hit the ground and looked

1289
01:17:55,439 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: like electricity splatting is popping. Okay, we see that landing

1290
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: on the same side of the street we were on.

1291
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: Next one landing in the same block. Now in the

1292
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: same on the other side of the street. And I

1293
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: reached to the radio, you know, to turn down to look.

1294
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: And then the third one hit the car on the

1295
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: passenger side. It beat it up like you know, like

1296
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: mercury and or thermometer, you know what they look and

1297
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: just dribble over the side of the car. Yes, Now,

1298
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: this is only like three minutes from where we just

1299
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: seen the lazer. I mean when it looked like a

1300
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: laser when we hit the car. Our attention for like years,

1301
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think about this for years, was on the

1302
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: fact that the street lights were going down. They were

1303
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: demon they were demmon. They you know, it was like

1304
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: the street lights was home and they were going off.

1305
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: The car lights was doing. That was demming. You could

1306
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: see way down two blocks in front of the lights

1307
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: going out and boots you driving say what is it?

1308
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't get the funk out of here. We get

1309
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: three blocks and this and looked the left. You can

1310
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 1: see street lights on and it looked like traffic was moving.

1311
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: We get to the house, parks in the driveway and

1312
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: don't say shit. We said that for like three minutes

1313
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: and my daughter walks out, Wow, y'all look like y'all

1314
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: seen the ghost. And he said, she said, you know,

1315
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: give me a hug. I'm going to bed now. Remember

1316
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: I told you the weirdest thing about seeing it the

1317
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: first time, that was in daylight. Right, this is only

1318
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: like five minutes away from when that Now it's dark.

1319
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: Now it's dark and she's going to bed. I mean

1320
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 1: it's seven o'clock. We didn't not think about that for

1321
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: at least ten years. You gotta duct it. We did

1322
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: not think about the fact that that time discrepancy from

1323
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: the first time he saw it to the street lights

1324
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: going out to we're going to be I had the

1325
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: car boots. I'm on the road years later and said,

1326
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: when I thought about it like that, I said, what

1327
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: what time did we get to Toronto? He said ten

1328
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: or so in the morning. I said, great, Um, when

1329
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: we saw the light the first time that it was daylight?

1330
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: I said it was daylight, right? He said, yeah, it

1331
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: was daylight. It was weird. That's what made it weird.

1332
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: That was in daylight. There's only three blocks from there

1333
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: to where the light hit the car. I say, why

1334
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: was the street lights going out? And why? And why

1335
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: was was Rolla going to bed at seven and night?

1336
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: Is it? Man? Fuck you? What happened to that time?

1337
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: We never thought about that? Just classic abduction story. And

1338
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: I gotta ask was there any rugs involved? No? No.

1339
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: The thing is we had just come from Detroit from

1340
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: the studio had to come to custom because you know

1341
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: Detroit and um Canada, right yea yeah, customer a format,

1342
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: so we had to come to custom. We ain't come

1343
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: through the custom and no drugs yet the fact I

1344
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: had to go look for something. After that, You're like,

1345
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: that should sucked up so much. I respect that. That's

1346
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: that's that, and that was Oh yeah that I believed

1347
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: in that. Anyway, I'm gonna start trek freak to all

1348
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: of that. I'm believing any you believe in ghost to, right,

1349
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: you believe in aliens. I believe in ghost to and

1350
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: I believe I mean one of them ships, one of

1351
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: them sits. I mean I'm interested. I'm interested in it.

1352
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: Wow man. Yeah, But like I said, so, you know,

1353
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: remember the time you was fishing and you saw aliens

1354
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: and Bahamas. I remembers nor I seen the story where

1355
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: you're describing where you was fishing. You've been seeing eliots

1356
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: a lot. He hadn't seen the aliens though he's seen

1357
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: he's seen like that situation. Well, they didn't get to

1358
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: see who was doing. He didn't see Homie and that

1359
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: believe that he believed that ship. Hell yeah. So right

1360
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: now with the government saying all this stuff. They're saying

1361
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: that must be wild after you've seen something like that

1362
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: in the past. I'm just waiting. Didn't convince of that ship.

1363
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: You know, you know Puerto Rico, they say got the

1364
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: biggest alien shit going on. I'm not lot they got.

1365
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: They got a one coming out the water. They got

1366
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: a big thing. No, bro is not real, man, he

1367
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: is you when you get too drunk. Maybe maybe No, No,

1368
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: I want to actually want to go. I couldn't even

1369
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: I was trying to go through a bunch of the

1370
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: records as sampled sampled you guys, und records they sampled you.

1371
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: Is that it's like it's more by now twenty six

1372
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: or twenty seven. But let's just say some of some

1373
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: of the songs in hip hop and this is just

1374
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: some This doesn't even scratch the surface. Me myself an idea.

1375
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: I saw two versions of it. Dre Day Dre Who

1376
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: am I snooped? Come on, come on, tentent dre Day

1377
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: Dre day tent. I mean I'm probably the worst one day.

1378
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: That was not good. No, it was better than your rendition. Okay,

1379
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: we'll get back to that. How to Survive in South

1380
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: Central ice Qua Classic gold Digger EPMD, Stranded on Death Road,

1381
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: dre Funking lesson x Clan. You got Strata Compton, which

1382
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: I said earlier n W, which is crazy. I know

1383
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: you got sold Eric B and rock Him. We had

1384
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: twelve songs in the on that album straight of a

1385
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: couple of the movie be oh in the movie twelve,

1386
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: A couple more, A couple more you got, uh, I said,

1387
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: I know you got sold very being rock Camp, Blue Cheese,

1388
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: Umc's Static by Jay Rue, the Damager Teacher, Teacher Slick Rick.

1389
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: And I mean I could keep going, to be honest,

1390
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: you keep going, keep going. No, No, I stopped. I stopped.

1391
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 1: I was writing them all. I was like, this is

1392
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: I was going through records that I love, and I

1393
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, oh man. I started writing him

1394
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: that that that is um And I mean, and he's

1395
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: recorded records with Cube and Poking. I'm sure there's a

1396
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: lot more than that. But him Brown, we did a

1397
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: lot together. You did. We did In a matter of fact,

1398
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: we did an album together, Chilling Up the Pee. It

1399
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: was like when they last one, were you close with shock? Yeah?

1400
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because he him he was in Tampa

1401
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: and you live in Tallahassee. Now we did a lot

1402
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: of stuff together him, him and Pee Wee did stuff

1403
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: on our records too. He was really tired. You know.

1404
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 1: It sucks the same one they were. They were crapping,

1405
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:04,719
Speaker 1: they had a singing group. He said, And you remember

1406
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: the name of that man? No, I don't. I don't.

1407
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: I do remember that pop was standing stuff? Yeah, yeah,

1408
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: I do remember. Was he a good jazzer? Huh? Was

1409
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: he a good jazzer? Part that area? Yeah, the flytop

1410
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Yeah, Well, what was your take since

1411
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: you knew him from back then to till later on?

1412
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: It was intelligent dude, that and I mean, and they

1413
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: had such good, good material as Digital Underground, you know

1414
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: that it was. It was created, very creative, and he

1415
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: was right for the time, whatever that time was. He

1416
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: was the one that that that thing came through and

1417
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: whatever it was. He had to write temptful for whatever

1418
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: it was, you know, because I just tell them, men,

1419
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: be careful, man, he's police. They gonna get you there.

1420
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: You can't just shoot him in the booty and get

1421
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: away from after he shot, though you got out of it.

1422
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: I'd be looking over my shoulders now own. And that's

1423
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: when he got in trout with the girl and you

1424
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: know everything. It was just scary but m and it

1425
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: had it fast too, because people it seems like a

1426
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 1: long time, but it all happened pretty fast, you know.

1427
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: But that era, I didn't trust nothing, you know, the

1428
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: government or what was going on, because I know they

1429
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: was trying to get rid of hip hop was more

1430
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: of a danger getting along, you know, like if East

1431
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: Coast and West Coast would have got together, that was

1432
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: a dangerous thing for the country. The authority was concerned,

1433
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: and I thought a lot of people are gonna get

1434
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: played with that one. I was really worried about. Are

1435
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: you with East Coast? What I mean, that wasn't a concept.

1436
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't a thing, you know. To me, everybody's got

1437
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: to be together, right And the thing about you is

1438
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: your music is so bright and so so universal. I

1439
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: don't think I think you're one of those guys that

1440
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: people think you're from out of the planet. Oh you

1441
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: know what, my man used to my band, just trying

1442
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: to get me to be a preacher. But that was

1443
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: the asset that was I read a few books that

1444
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: had some positive ship in it, and that ship, what

1445
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: did you replease do you remember. I mean I look

1446
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: at them now, they were just like shit you get

1447
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: on a magic store something you know that had that

1448
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: positive everybody uses it. Every organization was used as certain prisons,

1449
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,440
Speaker 1: and and they worked any real but nobody really like affirmations.

1450
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: And but I was on ascid and I believe it,

1451
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: and and to me it actually worked now that I see,

1452
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: I avoided a lot of shit, but not being upset

1453
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: that shit because the actually I was able to like

1454
01:27:56,240 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: write that's I ain't got nothing in any about me.

1455
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew how to skate around it, and

1456
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: I pick out the best size of shit, and somebody

1457
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: I can always fund the positive side of it and

1458
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 1: the rest of it. I don't need that ship. If

1459
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 1: I ain't got to it, don't bother me that they

1460
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: do it. I just stay have that part, and I

1461
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: get the part that I need special musician. You can't

1462
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: do the wrong. If you're great, I want to music

1463
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: to the other bullshit. I ain't got to sleep with you.

1464
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: So the ego and all of that, you're like, as

1465
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: long as you bread as time as you can play half.

1466
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,799
Speaker 1: You need an ego to do this business. You absolutely

1467
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: needn't to be an artist and any of you just

1468
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 1: have to know how to rule that motherfuck and manage

1469
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: it and you go. It'll work without you if you

1470
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: don't let it. The egos the only thing that gives

1471
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: you the confidence to the forward to go out in

1472
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: front of people. Yeah, you just have to. I'm a ham,

1473
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: you know. Put as simple as that. I'm a ham,

1474
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: So I know how. I'll take pictures all day. I

1475
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: can show off like a muff on stage, but I

1476
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: know better than that ship believing that I'm all that.

1477
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: When I feel like I need to say that, I

1478
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: go in the bathroom. You're a bad the fucker you.

1479
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: This isn't flushed the toilet. That ship when you come out,

1480
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: when you come out, there's gonna be somethuther tell you

1481
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: ain't shit, you know, and you got to deal with it.

1482
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Give you your feelings hurt right? Nah? Nah? You know

1483
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: you know what. Like I said, you know, when we

1484
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: locked this interview down, I just kept researching you, research you.

1485
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: And the one thing that I noticed is artists throughout

1486
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: the years sometimes they smile get demo and they don't.

1487
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: They don't they smile, doesn't seem the same. One thing

1488
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: about you is your smile got brighter man when pandemic

1489
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: came down. You know, I've been like the Payton. I've

1490
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: been doing that for you know, Douln for a long time.

1491
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: The pandemic came out, we need nothing to do. My

1492
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 1: way bought me a bunch of canvases I got I

1493
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: didn't in the house, and I started painting. I've been

1494
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: doing so good with selling art lately. I mean, that's

1495
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 1: your art, right, We just did that a few minutes

1496
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: ago for you. I'm taking that home, Jonah, Jonah, how

1497
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: are you jacking all of us? But that's what that's

1498
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. And that's like I didn't even

1499
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: repeat that. I thought that was like somebody writing graffiti,

1500
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: because you know he was doing graffiti. You know, you know,

1501
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 1: we racist and shit. So like I thought, it's a

1502
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: Spanish guy just here, just wrong, it was. It wasn't

1503
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: a Spanish guy as well. Oh that guy right there

1504
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: all right, he's around him in Miami. He painted up

1505
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: so you're told him to do this and he just

1506
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: did it. He been he was doing down. So this

1507
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,759
Speaker 1: is the funk is we got full fact art bullies

1508
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 1: Jonah myself and just got to do an album covers

1509
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: over to Lord bullies. We've been doing this since art

1510
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: Basils started around and were right, she had us down here.

1511
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: You were coming here before when we was a tourist trap. Yeah,

1512
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: because that's when we was. I I should have a

1513
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: boot right over in the marina because because this was

1514
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: this was a dirt back That's why the graffiti rights

1515
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: were out here, because the cops was in coming. Was

1516
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: one of the first one that had us down there

1517
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: doing that. Because Alice's still running, running, running out of here.

1518
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Now I come back, then look at the whole city.

1519
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: Is graffiti outed out with duck tourists. Yeah, yeah, art bullies.

1520
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: But so that's one of the things too that stood

1521
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: out to me about these albums that you were putting out.

1522
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: It was a black superhero kind of themes theme. Like

1523
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: it was like and I think I remember you hearing

1524
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: hearing you say something, say something about those obviously the

1525
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: seventies at least when I go on research, and I think,

1526
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean he said, you know, the artists might die,

1527
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: but the character would never die. Characters never, never one

1528
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: of my characters. Never the Mickey Mouse and all that

1529
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: be round forever. Yeah, but you realize that's out here.

1530
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 1: You won't even realize that. Yeah, yeah, that's where I

1531
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: look at it. I try to do my characters like that,

1532
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: like play a Tommy Dog. We gotta we gotta thing

1533
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: that with the Q Dogs that's coming out. There's coming

1534
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: at any minute now is the que Dogs version of

1535
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 1: a Tommy Dog. That's gonna blown by the dog. And

1536
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean, for real, for real, you're gonna I mean,

1537
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna see some political I mean, the QUS be

1538
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: stomping on it. But we keep the characters alive, you

1539
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: know that. But but but but let me just reivate

1540
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. It was the black superhero

1541
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: characters that we had never seen, but you see a

1542
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: lot of them now. Yeah, now you know I mean

1543
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 1: since Wander Conda Conda, Yes, since that that came out,

1544
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 1: and that all these Hancock, let's just start all of that.

1545
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Reggie Hutton, we was working with him when he first

1546
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: got out of college. He's been playing on doing pe

1547
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: funk and now Eddie Murphy is getting ready to do me.

1548
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: He's playing me weird college wait wait wait wait wait

1549
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

1550
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: me right now in this coming out all over the thing.

1551
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: And okay, so Eddie Murphy playing played me in the

1552
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: new and one coming out. Chris Kleifand is playing me

1553
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: right now. They got the one called Spinning Gold, which

1554
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: is about Castle Blanca. You know, Donna Summer's Kiss in

1555
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 1: Parliament and all that. The Neil Bogard that'll be out

1556
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: in two or three weeks Spinning Gold, and that's that's

1557
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: wizards playing myself. He did a pretty good job. I

1558
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: saw that. Why and once you're smoking weed back then

1559
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: smoking we I mean I did WoT life. Now we

1560
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: went smoking weed back because I'm wondering where this wiz

1561
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 1: go to smoke? Now we were doing, we were doing.

1562
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 1: It was cool. Then it was the Bogle bottles, you know,

1563
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 1: running the neck with the change. Wait, I'm time, I've

1564
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: never heard this one time on up you have bottles

1565
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: around already know about it. I mean that was the

1566
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: Hollywood that hold on. You had necklaces full of class

1567
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: with little bottles. Didn't even it wasn't even legal. It

1568
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: was never heard a necklace for the coal gate Cuban links. Yes,

1569
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: that's like that, you know, And then you know it

1570
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: got so wild and pretty soon, didn't everybody doing lines

1571
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: and that became later on. It was. It was so

1572
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: it started out nettle spoons and ship you know, and

1573
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: then people went crazy and started over doing because no

1574
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: one knew what cocaine was. Back then you knew what

1575
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 1: you didn't. Marijuana was not in the hood. D some

1576
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: people did, people with money did. And then I feel

1577
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: like the people around they were like there was some

1578
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: money thing. They moved their hands like this. It was like, yeah,

1579
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: it was like upper society was doing it. Yeah, you know,

1580
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: like you see no classical people when they look, yeah,

1581
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: that was money thing. Yeah. When they made it where

1582
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: it get in the streets and when they hit to

1583
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: the hood, the hood fucked it up. Had to cook

1584
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: it cook put water hood with Old Bay on that

1585
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: ship the hood them but the Old Bay and barbecue sauce.

1586
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 1: I had a robe on with a box of bacon

1587
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 1: soda on it. That was That was the like the emblem.

1588
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what I was angling. You

1589
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 1: got me because you because I hadn't had a Newport.

1590
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: I diamond out Newport the whole box of bacon. You win,

1591
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: you winning. It was about it's called getting fucked up

1592
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: and when you when you get fucked up, you do

1593
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: fucked up ship, And that's all it was. Everybody was

1594
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: out there who could get fucked up? And who could

1595
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: do it? Dude? You know whatever the styling is. Yeah,

1596
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: it was looking back at it was stupid, but I

1597
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: got out of it coming. I'm gonna tell you my

1598
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 1: one of my first not one of my first, was

1599
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: just one of the first times I realized that Hollywood

1600
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: is different from New York. Was, Um, I had a

1601
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: packet of cigarettes, and I from a pack of cigarettes.

1602
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 1: I went to a Hollywood uh uh, just a Hollywood party,

1603
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: right networking thing. Yeah, this is a Hollywood party and

1604
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: I had a packet of cigarette. I put a pack

1605
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: of cigarettes and a white dude came into me and said, hey, man,

1606
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: I give you an eight ball for that. Yeah, he said,

1607
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: theready what I've seen that, But he wanted a whole cigarette.

1608
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: He wanted a cigarette battle of money. Yeah, yeah, and

1609
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 1: he wanted the whole eight more. Goddamn, we're looking good.

1610
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: Come on, let's over some toploers in there. Got work, brother,

1611
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, we flyout him in from perud it's the

1612
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 1: row planks, oh man, peru just but we just flamm

1613
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:07,919
Speaker 1: in from listening America, the role Peru. I like Perui

1614
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: and a week and did he did run and he

1615
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: just he just comes to here the role Bluss and

1616
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: wrestle pigeons here mingo pigeons. And that's our brother Boris

1617
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: right there, beats in the hood. He's a producer. Boys

1618
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 1: came in with that guy Dad. So so what is

1619
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 1: your favorite part of the game. Is it to make

1620
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: the record or perform the record? Wow? Probably performing it?

1621
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: But when when I get a chance to make it

1622
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: under the conditions, I like to make it in I

1623
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: enjoyed the hell out of that because lie to crazy,

1624
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: try kind of crazy shit a different ways. So I

1625
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: like making it too, but I like performing it. Yes,

1626
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 1: that once you know we get on the stages, that's

1627
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: second heaven for me. But but you said you prefer

1628
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: analog over digital, right, But now, with all the things

1629
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 1: you could do with digital when you are recording, is

1630
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,440
Speaker 1: there anything about digital you love that you could manipulate

1631
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: and do all these different sounds easier than you could

1632
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: with analog. Well, yeah, you didn't do a lot of stuff,

1633
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: just faster and stuff like that. I mean yeah, and

1634
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: then the editing stuff that you can do, I mean,

1635
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: you just gotta cut t look at the scope and

1636
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: do it. That's that's not even fair. We had to,

1637
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: like and you literally had to cut tape, tape, little

1638
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: pieces of tape with We had tape all around a

1639
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 1: beat everywhere. And if you put it upside down and

1640
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: put it back in the room, it's backwards. For a second,

1641
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 1: do you take it out and turn it over? We

1642
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: had tape, We had to cut up everything. Now you

1643
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 1: just look at the scope and the engineer I got

1644
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: now he don't even have You don't have to listen

1645
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: at it. He can give me an ed all for

1646
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: a word just about the scope respect. So that's that's

1647
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: the easy. But the feeling of him right now, the

1648
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: analog feeling up two inch skate, there's a whole nother thing.

1649
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: And it's heavy as a motherfucker. Yeah, even especially when

1650
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 1: they sampled it, if they sampled it off a record

1651
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: as opposed to the tape, Yeah, that's shit. It's hot.

1652
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean when you listen back you sample something like

1653
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 1: listening to a run DMC, that was some hot shit.

1654
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: I mean you know that damn the bottom on it.

1655
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 1: And if they put an eight or eight on that,

1656
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: it ain't the same as nowadays they do. It still

1657
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: feel good. It's a whole other thing. Did you ever

1658
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: hear there's um a quote h DJ Quick? I think

1659
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: he was on ty Lib's and Quick said something about

1660
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: he felt that recording analog and on and on tape

1661
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: that the because of the magnetism that's one on there,

1662
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: that it's it's capturing the energy in the room. I

1663
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: believe so, yeah, and I and I believe that. Yeah,

1664
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: there's a there's a thing they actually you can actually

1665
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 1: record the sound of an EMP studio. We just record

1666
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: the which is ecstatic, that's just the studio, and put

1667
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: that on a track and have a track of just

1668
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: that empty studio in there, and record the drums somewhere

1669
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: else for them. When you mix it, mix them together,

1670
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: it sound like the drummers is played at this studio

1671
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 1: in a certain studio. Certain studio studios have their own

1672
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, ambient sound. Just putting mics up in the

1673
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: studio and record the studio niked studio, and then go

1674
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: and put anybody anywhere else. It's cheating you. I recorded

1675
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: this a united sound because the studio have a sound

1676
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: of its own, right, I mean, And it worked almost

1677
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: I can tell any record. I can't tell any record,

1678
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: but I can pretty much get when somebody was recorded

1679
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: at this studio. I just know that vibe, you know,

1680
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: the ambience, and you could be like this record that

1681
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 1: record plan. Yeah. I used to be able to do that. Yeah,

1682
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 1: record plant was easy. Yeah yeah, yeah I lost that ship. Yeah,

1683
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 1: because I think everything is digital. Yeah, that's the digital Yeah. Yeah.

1684
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: I used to be like, this is hit Factory, this

1685
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: is Criteria. We mixed Stomic Dog and Criteria Criteria here

1686
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: in Miami. I say, you know that's how you know

1687
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: you're legend that before factory. Yeah yeah, it was Criteria that. Yeah,

1688
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 1: we recorded when you it was Criterias. Let thank you

1689
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: for making me feel old. I respect you were the

1690
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: same name. Two wow, a little Nantes bgs that during

1691
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: that time. So the bjs were recording there, yeahs just

1692
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 1: living there. I mean they live out here, were living

1693
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: in that studio at the time. They didn't have their

1694
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: own place then Betty Right, Oh, they were literally living there. Yeah,

1695
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: Betty Right was right. Yeah, husband, wow, Yeah, this is

1696
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: Criteria is like it's in It's it's not like in

1697
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: the hood street. Oh no, no, it's it's never been

1698
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever been a nice area. It's

1699
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 1: been an industrial area. It was. Yeah, it was deep

1700
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: back there. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, back then I could

1701
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: imagine it's a little class here. Yeah. That was. That's

1702
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 1: when Miami vice was out, yea cocaine everything that was. Yeah,

1703
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,759
Speaker 1: that was that was That was that time. The eighties

1704
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: was crazy and that like that time. I said, you

1705
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: still have the little necklace. No, your necklace got bigger

1706
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: than I used to live into Sheridan Poy Ambassador. I

1707
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: think it might call it in a commonial now pull

1708
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: you bake downtown. Yeah, yeah, it's still that. I used

1709
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: to live there. Uh huh. George Bush Senior used to live.

1710
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: He was a CIA director and even CIA. Yeah, he

1711
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 1: he used to living in Now he was living with

1712
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 1: the I forget what I'm talking to y'all. We don't live.

1713
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah know we never had to, Joge, we seen your story, Jesus. No, no, yeah,

1714
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: we used to live. I used to live there and

1715
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: go fishing from there. All of them. I didn't even know. George,

1716
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: You're listmust have been seven and eight. I bought a

1717
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: seventy seven just so you know. So I was there

1718
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: with y'all. My mind. Hold. Yeah, that's when the Maam

1719
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: and Marina was right at the park there. Yeah. Yeah,

1720
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: you really like like fishing, like Boots and the everytime

1721
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: we get a hit record. We was down there and

1722
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: we go over to Beminy. We take the boat over

1723
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: to Beminy. Aliens huh and see aliens? See aliens. You

1724
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: heard about the Beminy. What is it the in the

1725
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: water they got the stones you heard about that they

1726
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: got these stones that they say they think it's like

1727
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: part of Atlantis or something. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1728
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah, talk about yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about

1729
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 1: Matt Randall. Nah. I mean, I ain't gonnat. I want

1730
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: to see some aliens in bening Me. I want to

1731
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: go again, like I love Bahamas. Bahama is a beautiful place. Yeah,

1732
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,759
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful place. Y'a'll been going to the Bahamas

1733
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: for years. I ain't too much conk konk fritis. I'll

1734
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:22,560
Speaker 1: be eating conferences of coming out of my ears. And

1735
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: the first day I got a chance to get some

1736
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 1: some soul food. They gave me a Bahama mama a

1737
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: drink and now it was hot and I thought it

1738
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:36,799
Speaker 1: was you know, kool laid okay, and it's hot outside,

1739
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: you gonna feel that. I thought they had taken two

1740
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: times a yellow sunshine. That ship had your head, I

1741
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 1: mean everything, and that we was at I dinner with

1742
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 1: the president I was president of. They said we got

1743
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 1: one because I was like, take me home, y'all. Don't

1744
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna make it. But here now loud to

1745
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: everybody to table, I think we got one. They had

1746
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 1: to take me home. I missed dinner with all the

1747
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 1: good president of All right, cool, and you said yellow message?

1748
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 1: Was that yellow? But no, that was LSD twenty five

1749
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:24,759
Speaker 1: D twenty five. I took you know, it's real twenty

1750
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: five surgic death, allumie, what like sergic def thalamie. That's

1751
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: a hell of science. Oh, I didn't really listen, real thing.

1752
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: It was just a nigga named LSD. They named that

1753
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 1: doing that. And we was in Boston at the time.

1754
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: That did Timothy Leary Bobby Brown sampled you too, right?

1755
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did live things with them. Okay, yeah,

1756
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: they went on too with us. They first too, he

1757
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: knowing Bobby Brown book, he fried chicken with cocaine. I

1758
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: can dig it. I think I think that story was

1759
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:12,560
Speaker 1: messed up. Brot said it. He admitted he changed the story. No, no,

1760
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 1: he said he didn't say purposely cooked. No, he thought

1761
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: it was. I never said it was on purpose, no, no,

1762
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,760
Speaker 1: but I just said he fried cocaine. No, no, he

1763
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: thought it was flower though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh

1764
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 1: I never I know that. But it's the way we've

1765
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 1: always said the story. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, let's go,

1766
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Yeah, let's let's You ain't never

1767
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: fried no chicken. You ain't never fried no chicken with cocaine. No, no, no,

1768
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 1: but I've seen it done. Never seen you just seen

1769
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: it done. I've seen. But I'm saying we would. We

1770
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: were at the time, like I said, we were in

1771
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: the Boston area when Timothy learing them discovered the LSD thing,

1772
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: when that that whole thing, when the FBI was searching

1773
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: for him doing the seventies. Yes, we were in Boston

1774
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: during that time because when that was in the university, right,

1775
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: the university. Yeah, matter of fact, that's what we got

1776
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: the answer from those same kids when you could actually

1777
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: they pay you sixty dollars to take it and watch

1778
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 1: it for four hours because they were express you've never

1779
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: seen a movie. It was doing that with LSD. Yeah,

1780
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 1: that's what that's what it was at and we was

1781
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,560
Speaker 1: we had just gotten into Boston like that. No, that

1782
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 1: was sixty eight. That's right, sixty eight. Oh my god,

1783
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: and so led Zeppelin and in those groups came through

1784
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: the sixty eight that was the really the psychedelicy and

1785
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 1: they got put onto it here right, wow, that changed music.

1786
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 1: That was my experience with acid and that whole time

1787
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 1: LSDA asked the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah right, they

1788
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: and cousins. A matter of fact, the guy came to

1789
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: miammy what was one of the other professors, and he

1790
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: had to show here the Yeah, the show remember Flipper, Yeah,

1791
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: the dolphin. The guy that did that had that show

1792
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: that was that was an undercover show for the scientists. Wait,

1793
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,600
Speaker 1: the show was undercovered? Was undercover? That show was a

1794
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: cover for them doing dolphin studies on with them LD No, No,

1795
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: the the same guy that did the LSD in New York.

1796
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: Guys came here and had that show Flippers, and it

1797
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: was covered checking on the end of that. The Flipper

1798
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,640
Speaker 1: was a cover for them studying dolphins and using them

1799
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: in the until they started using them in the government

1800
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: during the war. Oh, because they were doing the bomb thing.

1801
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 1: That's when he quit. That's when he let them lose.

1802
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: Spit right down to the separate tim I mean the sequarium. Yeah. Wow,

1803
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: didn't get a dolphins, Alice d huh might as well.

1804
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure they did. Yeah, they probably did. The dude

1805
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: named John C. Lily. Check him out, John C. Lily.

1806
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: And that's how Flippery Flipper started talking about makes sense

1807
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 1: up Flipper came out of the water. That was just

1808
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: a cover that all that stuff that crazy. The real

1809
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: story was he was training the dolphins to put the

1810
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: bombs on them, right, and he let them loose. That

1811
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 1: was the big scandal. Why he found out that the

1812
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 1: government was doing that. He turned them loose. Now Atomic

1813
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: Atomic Dog UM took out Billy Jean number one, Michael Jackson,

1814
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 1: Billy anybody listening In case people don't know, Billy Jean

1815
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,560
Speaker 1: is not my lover. It's not the girl says that

1816
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: I am the one. Yeah, but it's not my son.

1817
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: You took that shit out, Yeah, Tommy dog. But you

1818
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: know at the time that UM was that MTV. Yeah,

1819
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: it couldn't. They wouldn't put it on MTV. It wouldn't

1820
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,080
Speaker 1: put yours on him, right, but they got the the

1821
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: gene on that that was he was pop lockers when

1822
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: got you know? And then Prince got on there every

1823
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: time after that, right, and then you you came and

1824
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 1: took it and had the number one position yet without MTV,

1825
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 1: without MTV. Wait, that's that's that's what I need. Yeah,

1826
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: you didn't need MTV. Oh no, we didn't need I mean,

1827
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: it's still and the record company told us it's not

1828
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 1: going pop. Did Michael coolly and be like, it's beef nigga? No? Mean, yes,

1829
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: the toy. I was doing the radio show with the toy.

1830
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: He called up and say, what is this hair doing?

1831
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: What is this hair doing? You know? Because that's what

1832
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: I just got, the colored braids? And right he had

1833
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: heard about it, he said, I mean with George Clinton,

1834
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 1: you know black, what is his hair doing? I heard

1835
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 1: about it? Right? Oh my god? And what made you

1836
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 1: say I'm taking the hair off? I'm eighty years old, goddamn,

1837
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,719
Speaker 1: ain't no matter that Just start phone out by itself.

1838
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 1: Do you see yourself as a rock star that you are?

1839
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I know, you know I know that I am, But

1840
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't like to like I said, look at it

1841
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: like that. I got plenty of times to do that later.

1842
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 1: You know, when you started looking at it, you can

1843
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,560
Speaker 1: get satisfied. I mean, not the egotistical. I mean just

1844
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 1: actually paying attention to I know. I mean I can't

1845
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 1: know what I've done. I know all of the history,

1846
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: but you know, you know you started dwelling that seasons

1847
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: to get lazy right now. I mean, I don't like

1848
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: to get like I ain't done eighty years old. I

1849
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 1: need an excuse to stay down. And if I start

1850
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: doing that, you know, I mean, everyone's want bench on

1851
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: YouTube and look at some of these shows. My wife

1852
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: doing a lot of the filming and stuff. So I

1853
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,600
Speaker 1: actually have to look at them a lot lately. But

1854
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 1: you can get off into that and shit, I ain't

1855
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: moving another job, but I don't want to. I want

1856
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: to something to provoke me and let me TRYA has

1857
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 1: to do it again, you know, And that's what we're doing.

1858
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 1: We actually having fun doing tours now with the especially

1859
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 1: with the new the younger band. Have to keep ship's family.

1860
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 1: That's what's family amazing. That's the other thing you get

1861
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 1: to transferred to ship to them for them to keep

1862
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 1: doing it. That is generational wealth. What you're doing. Yeah,

1863
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to make sure it is recognized.

1864
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Like I said with Ben Crump, Ben ahead of our

1865
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: foundation of protect your legacy. That's what we're doing for

1866
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: all other artists, showing how to protect their legacy. And

1867
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 1: there is a thing called family, you know wealth. I mean,

1868
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 1: if you do it from that point, they can't use

1869
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 1: that legal term that is past um, statue of limitation

1870
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: and all that legal term that you can't. I'm gonna

1871
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 1: get your shit right. You can, Yeah, you can, you can,

1872
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: you should and you should right and so and and

1873
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 1: um and the thing is to do it, do it

1874
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: and you know not, ain't mad and now about it.

1875
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: Just do it right. And that's what's happening right now.

1876
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: That's an inspiration for me actually fighting and getting the

1877
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: copyration back. While I'm painting. I had all that, all

1878
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 1: that shit on the internet. People love that kind of

1879
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: content and they're seeing you on the internet. I'm in

1880
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 1: the guarden. My wives got a garden. I'm out there

1881
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: picking potatoes and shit. People love that kind of shit

1882
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: to see the old fuck out there doing. Let you know.

1883
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 1: Let so I had all that with the old songs

1884
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 1: that I got back that they never heard. I'll be

1885
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:52,640
Speaker 1: playing when I came in and her jump playing that

1886
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: that old shit. I was like, damn, I worked the

1887
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 1: record that's be put year, just gonna do. People don't

1888
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 1: even know about when they hear him now, like when

1889
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 1: did that come out? It came out, you just missed it.

1890
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: But they're still here. So I like participating in the

1891
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: all the social media shit. You know, that's just like

1892
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,799
Speaker 1: going to the radio station. So you fuck with TikTok

1893
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 1: im fuck with all of them. I'm fok with TikTok

1894
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 1: I fuck with all of them there. I can't see

1895
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm sucking the ain't trying to get

1896
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: commercial with him. I like to play with him because

1897
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: it's just the kitty shit. The old motherfucker's getting there

1898
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: trying to make money. Yeah, no, you gotta um you

1899
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: fu with Twitter? Yeah right, Twitter the most it's negative

1900
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: best place in them. I don't I don't actually get

1901
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 1: on I don't get on Twitter, and Facebook is when

1902
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't get No, No, don't get on that fund

1903
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: See Instagram, you gotta show you a picture. I don't

1904
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: really like it. Yeah, Facebook, you gotta show you a picture.

1905
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't really like yeah, Instagram much just going there

1906
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: and talk shit. I got no haircut. I'm just saying,

1907
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm just on the bathroom. I'm like, what's up on

1908
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 1: the fucking no no no on Twitter? Twitter? And then

1909
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: someone be on here like you, Kamala, ain't brush your

1910
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 1: hair and he's like, what a minute you just told

1911
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: about the vice president? Like how are you talking about

1912
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: the vice president? God damn it? And then you just

1913
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 1: get in. I don't have no conversation, no politics, no

1914
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 1: politics for you. I watch them all deep, but I

1915
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 1: don't I don't get out here and talk about him. Yes,

1916
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, because that's that's another kind of thing right now,

1917
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: because Joe I watched the hell of him. Because Joe Biden,

1918
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he here all there, he's my boy,

1919
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: he your boy eman. Camel ain't nothing, ain't I'm gonna

1920
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 1: great choice, you know, I don't even like you're like

1921
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 1: no other there's no other choices now, that's right, right,

1922
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say one thing. The other day, they

1923
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 1: walked Joe Biden out and he just can't walk against you.

1924
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: He see, No, you gotta gott another you know it now,

1925
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things like you saw Joe Joe

1926
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 1: Biden's wife kiss coming out. I don't know that. I

1927
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: don't know if that's favor real. That ship was weird. Yeah,

1928
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 1: kind of partners to happen about. I'm used to. I'm

1929
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 1: used to French Italian They're gonna help me kill you.

1930
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: But they're neither French nor Italian. They're not French. People

1931
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: do that. They ain't no, bis no, I ain't gonna.

1932
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: I did, I'll kill you not. I've been places where

1933
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 1: I've seen two men kiss and then and then they're

1934
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: like like the Italians, will will do wherever you go.

1935
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 1: There's things that people do that's so different getting lost.

1936
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean, did you try to eat some beef in India? Oh? Yeah,

1937
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: that's as bad as you dog here. You know, so

1938
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: just depending on where you at, you know, and after

1939
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 1: world it's like, damn, I guess they eat everything. That's yeah,

1940
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 1: I guess the Washington DC this because everybody's talking actually

1941
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: to you know, get over that at certain things because

1942
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: we've been so programmed. But I realized, if you starting

1943
01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 1: and hungly, you do all that. You absolutely you know,

1944
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 1: some people think they're starving before they starving right, Oh

1945
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 1: enough yet ship, We're not done yet. Hold all right,

1946
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 1: jus my wife calling me right now. Okay, this is

1947
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: this is this is something to be touched on earlier.

1948
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 1: But I got this in my notes. When you did

1949
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 1: flash lights, they actually be performed with flashing lights, and

1950
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 1: the concerts, the people, yeah, the people, Oh my god, yeah,

1951
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: because this is this looks like thousand lightning because because

1952
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: now when hip hop say, put up a light up,

1953
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: they put up a light up. So you're telling me

1954
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: you would be this flashlights. Let me get your props.

1955
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: Let me just get your guys. You know how when

1956
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 1: you say put your phones upright, put your lighters upright.

1957
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Put so you're a record people. They gotta remember flash

1958
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 1: legs like eighteen pounds back then, and they had D

1959
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 1: batteries and kill a nigga a couple of D batteries,

1960
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: so literally, you hit a nigga with bio the savers

1961
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 1: to that, I mean, and they had the springs. That

1962
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: was eighteen It was a lightsabers, lifesavers that Star Wars

1963
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 1: came out right when we put Mothership out. Star Wars

1964
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 1: came out the same year, a couple of months later,

1965
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 1: and you start performing this. These motherfuckers out there with flashlights,

1966
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: flashlight coliseums and the stadiums. Ninety thousand people and ship. Wow,

1967
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 1: ninety thousand people. You said you saw ninety thousand Afric

1968
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: Chicago Soldiers Field, there was seventy five thousand half frus.

1969
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: Come on, we got humble artists and humble artists three,

1970
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 1: let's all make but no, we got a humble artist today.

1971
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: We have to humble. Think that twenty thousand. Oh you

1972
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 1: got ten thousands doing ninety thousands. Yeah, you got ninety

1973
01:58:56,520 --> 01:59:00,560
Speaker 1: thousand people in aut with flashlights with killed me. They

1974
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 1: brought a flashlight. It's basically like holding the dof We

1975
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 1: sold him to eighteen pounds. We sold him we had,

1976
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean wed. That was merch. That was very holy

1977
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: shit merch. Oh my god. Oh matter of fact, the

1978
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 1: merchant you know Prince movie. Um, I would have got

1979
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 1: on the club Billy Billy Sparks things. So that was

1980
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: the guy that sold the space, sold the flash like

1981
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 1: Billy Sparks flashlights that it was following a flashlights. He

1982
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 1: was the one that was doing the merch that time

1983
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 1: before he got with Prince. We have a Prince band

1984
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: was with us on. You know, merch people went to

1985
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 1: work for him. This is so crazy. Did you speak

1986
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 1: the day I sold? You know? Did I sold? Just

1987
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: recently got back the hold. Yeah, we're working at it. Okay,

1988
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 1: are you spoke to the god? They a matter of fact,

1989
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: they were one of the first ones. That's that when

1990
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 1: they sampled, that was the beginning. They say that, right,

1991
01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy paid us them, Digital Man them in digit

1992
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: on the ground because because digital only was on Tommy,

1993
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 1: then tom Me too. Those are the two that paid

1994
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 1: us the first time that they were sampled. We didn't

1995
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,720
Speaker 1: know what people were doing using rec We know how

1996
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 1: you supposed to get paid and what the label paid you.

1997
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 1: But then Daylight got screwed on their royal. They got

1998
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 1: screwed later on. It was a good thing we both

1999
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: got and the dot paid us the first time. But

2000
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 1: by the time they got screwed, we both got screwed together.

2001
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying it was due for everybody, So yeah, they

2002
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,760
Speaker 1: knew it was able to pay you. The hip hop artists.

2003
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 1: It was all new in that situation. Nobody knew how

2004
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 1: to pay. But and then they actually but they charged

2005
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 1: the artists. They told him they was paying us. They

2006
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: were taking out of their royalties. Told them that they

2007
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 1: gave it to us. That's why I told Snoop, that's

2008
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 1: why they didn't get student the royalty statement party. If

2009
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,280
Speaker 1: they took it out of the royalty, they didn't give

2010
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 1: it to me. It should be on my royalty. So

2011
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Yeah, no, she shouldn't be

2012
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 1: taken out of the artist's royalty. They did well. I mean,

2013
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 1: it's all the publish not just the publishing. The fact

2014
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:05,600
Speaker 1: that you sampled the record, right, that's another thing. Now

2015
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 1: your master have another master in it. It's not the publishing,

2016
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 1: but it's the publishing. It's part of the writing credit

2017
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: and the ownership of the master the record itself. The

2018
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 1: writers get their part of them, but the person that

2019
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 1: sang the song or played. But you see, this is

2020
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 1: why people like you and a lot of people need

2021
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 1: to learn more about this because it's so complicated. I

2022
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:30,360
Speaker 1: had a lawyer one time that he told me that

2023
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 1: the people that created the mathematical equation for publishing were

2024
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 1: rocket scientists, And I don't know if he was joking.

2025
02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 1: They're the same one that did the same one that

2026
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: did um share cropping. You know what the farm Land. Right,

2027
02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 1: it's the same theory as that ship, which is all

2028
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 1: they loan you some money and you never pay them back.

2029
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 1: Everything that you give them is against some advanced shit

2030
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, which you'll never see back. And you and

2031
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 1: of course you're a fortune to get lawyers to play

2032
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 1: with him on that. You will always be Now you

2033
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 1: can get it back because of the thirty five years,

2034
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 1: and they'll still beat you. If you don't know what

2035
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: you do, go ahead and do it. But you can

2036
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:13,280
Speaker 1: get on YouTube now and if all that shit, all

2037
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 1: that information is there. But like I said, we're doing

2038
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 1: a thing called protect our Legacy, and we're gonna have

2039
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 1: announced every year. We're gonna announce it. We're gonna announce

2040
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: every year whose song is due back to him? Because

2041
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:30,360
Speaker 1: every year fire, somebody's song is due back to them

2042
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:36,280
Speaker 1: or album. We're gonna find out fire. What about the

2043
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 1: pieces of the songs, like you're saying, the right samples

2044
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: up the song? Yeah, all of that, all of that

2045
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 1: come back. Like I think that needs to be simplified

2046
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 1: for people. Oh yeah, dude, because they need to tell you.

2047
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 1: They need to tell you when it's done, you know,

2048
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 1: like the copyright place to tell you somebody just use

2049
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:54,200
Speaker 1: your song, they just sound they stick can do that,

2050
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 1: but they don't want to do that. They're gonna do

2051
02:02:56,520 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 1: it once he make it a um um rights thing,

2052
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: which is what's gonna be. You know that's gonna happen

2053
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 1: and everybody because there's a lot of hip hop money

2054
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 1: out there that I think we need more sampling and

2055
02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 1: hip hop because I think that was they scared to

2056
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,360
Speaker 1: do it because they got suits. I made hip hop

2057
02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 1: that gave the soul to hip hop. Yeah it was,

2058
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: and when you took it out, it changed hip hop. Yeah,

2059
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: it's scared. When they got scared to sample stuff that

2060
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 1: changed everything. And in fact, that's scared effect that many

2061
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 1: people make vinyl records too, as I'm doing. Ain't many

2062
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 1: records or scratch. We got to start making records just

2063
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 1: so you can scratch them. I'm gonna tell you the

2064
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 1: first time I actually besides me, you know um question

2065
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 1: in my contract, The first time I ever and it

2066
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:49,480
Speaker 1: was what wasn't called the order. It's first time I

2067
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,440
Speaker 1: ever see my record label. It was something going on

2068
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 1: that was wasn't right was. I looked at it and

2069
02:03:55,640 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 1: they spent eight hundred thousand overseas budget. Back then, we

2070
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 1: didn't have an Instagram, we didn't have a Twitter. Eight

2071
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, that's what they told me. They told me

2072
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 1: they spent eight hundred thousand because they made my record

2073
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: go number one in Europe and everywhere else. So they

2074
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: said that they spent this the marketing budget, the marketing budget,

2075
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 1: that that's where they always So back then I knew

2076
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 1: this something was wrong about this. I was like, wait

2077
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 1: a minute, his death jam, this is timmy Boy, this

2078
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 1: is timming Boy. Yeah, yeah, so um well, it wasn't him,

2079
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: it was the Penalty At the time, let's just say

2080
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of them. It was doomed

2081
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 1: together when they was together, Penalty and Time Boy. And

2082
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 1: I was asking them. I was like, can you show

2083
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 1: me proof that you spent this money in Amsterdam? He

2084
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 1: showed me this money, he spent this money in Japan

2085
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 1: and such such. Back then we didn't have an Instagram,

2086
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:56,720
Speaker 1: so whenever they showed me it was sufficient proof. Today yeah,

2087
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 1: and you couldn't. It's no, couldn't argue the proof. It's

2088
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 1: the only way they could have been spending that money there,

2089
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 1: but we couldn't. So that's the one thing I will

2090
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 1: give to social media Instagram, TikTok is. They can't do

2091
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:10,480
Speaker 1: that no more. They can't say to me, Yo, I

2092
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: just spent one hundred and fifty thousand in Japan and Tokyo,

2093
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 1: and I got somebody in Tokyo that I could hit

2094
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram or Twitter and say, did you see that poster?

2095
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And that's the one that's

2096
02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 1: the one thing. So um. That was the one time

2097
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 1: that I actually started to see like, holy shit, these

2098
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,680
Speaker 1: people are I don't want to say lying, but let

2099
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: me just be honest. They were lying. They were lying.

2100
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,600
Speaker 1: There was not no other way to say it. And

2101
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:41,320
Speaker 1: I'll never recoup that album. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard

2102
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:44,880
Speaker 1: to recoup. Let mean, you can't even recoup. You can

2103
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 1: go bankrupt and they still tell you you're unstill, oh yeah,

2104
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:52,160
Speaker 1: bankrupt supposed to wipe that shit out right, yes, right,

2105
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: But if you paying attention, they still charge you ten

2106
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,280
Speaker 1: years later you're unrecoup I mean, is it far fet

2107
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 1: to say if you look at the history of record

2108
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 1: labels in the music industry, it's a racket. It was

2109
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:07,280
Speaker 1: always a racket. It was always a racket. It's actually

2110
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 1: better now, I mean, it's actually because corporate America got involved.

2111
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 1: In the beginning, it was cracket. It was underworld ship, right,

2112
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 1: And using the word master was even fun up to

2113
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 1: using the word master master the master record. No, no,

2114
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: using the word master for the for the master that

2115
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 1: was even like a master record, that the first the original,

2116
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 1: the original record. No, no, no, you're taking that somewhere. Yeah,

2117
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:45,760
Speaker 1: it's master master. You're right, you're right, you're right, my fault, right,

2118
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,760
Speaker 1: you're right, it's going too far, my bad movies, my

2119
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: bass alcohol. But I think we're reaping. The industry is

2120
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:57,840
Speaker 1: reaping the I don't want to see the benefit. It's

2121
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 1: reaping the history of what it was. It was always

2122
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 1: a racket, it was. It was the world racket. They

2123
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: called a cash cow. It was so you know street

2124
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, you made the records on the street, you

2125
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:10,200
Speaker 1: and they sold them. You got some of you so

2126
02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:12,880
Speaker 1: them to the stores. It was a hustle, you know.

2127
02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: And they just made it, learn to make it civilized

2128
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 1: and a business. And it's getting to be that, believe me,

2129
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:21,480
Speaker 1: because you look around and see yall they talk about

2130
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 1: billionaires were you weren't even a thousand there my day

2131
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 1: a millionaire was out of the reach. But now you're

2132
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 1: talking about billionaires, So it's going somewhere. The artists aren't

2133
02:07:32,040 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 1: becoming billionaires, are not in the music side of it,

2134
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 1: whether they're doing. They becoming billionaires not necessarily just off

2135
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:43,320
Speaker 1: the music, off of the entire thing around them. They

2136
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:49,160
Speaker 1: whole brand, like Marianna Beyonce Jay, they had to branch out.

2137
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, you have to branch out. They

2138
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 1: get it, but it gives you the opportunity to brand,

2139
02:07:53,080 --> 02:07:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, the opportunity is that. I'm just saying that

2140
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 1: that infrastructure that started the music industry still comes from

2141
02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 1: that shady place and it's still shaking it off today. Yeah.

2142
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 1: But like I said that thirty five years of getting

2143
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:08,400
Speaker 1: your master's back or getting your copyrights back, that's a

2144
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: Johnny step. That mean that means you can actually go

2145
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 1: in there and get your thing and you can get

2146
02:08:14,360 --> 02:08:18,400
Speaker 1: paid for the licensing of that from now on. They

2147
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 1: didn't have that before. You didn't get it back, you

2148
02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:24,840
Speaker 1: said forever into perpetuity and all that kind of shit.

2149
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 1: Now you can actually get it back, but you got

2150
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 1: to know how to work it. What was publishing when

2151
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 1: you first started, like it was publishing already established. Yeah,

2152
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean Joe Bett was the best, biggest publishing in

2153
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: the world. That Motown. All those songs that came through Motown,

2154
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 1: they were like the biggest. Columbia was the second, you know,

2155
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: screen Gym the second biggest worldwide published. They didn't movies

2156
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 1: and soundtracks, so there was always a structure there for

2157
02:08:57,000 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 1: pop music, classical music and stuff us that rock and

2158
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:04,960
Speaker 1: roll was like hip hop. It was a street thing.

2159
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:07,520
Speaker 1: For people that don't understand. Rock and roll wasn't a

2160
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:10,640
Speaker 1: white genre originally, not at first, not at first, but

2161
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 1: Richie invented that ship right because people know, people think

2162
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 1: of rock and roll. I think of these like heavy

2163
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:17,360
Speaker 1: metal bands or something. No, no, no, no, no, that's

2164
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:22,280
Speaker 1: that's rock. The rock and roll now, I mean, Jered

2165
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 1: y Lewis was my favorite when it comes to rock

2166
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 1: and roll version of that white version of that. Elvis

2167
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:31,320
Speaker 1: was cool because he made it, and you gotta get

2168
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 1: people prop that made it worked for him. But jeredy Lewis,

2169
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 1: he came to the pollo. Thie didn't turn it out.

2170
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, he focused like damn this mom. You know

2171
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 1: he was he was that he had a real vibe

2172
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 1: in this that he was a crazy motherfucking called himself

2173
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:51,840
Speaker 1: with the killer. I mean, he's he had a hell

2174
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:54,720
Speaker 1: of a story, you know. But he was all of

2175
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 1: that rock and roll thing for me from the fifties,

2176
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, and then you got a lot of went

2177
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 1: after that, the pop side of it. Like I said,

2178
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the Beatles once they got Really that's

2179
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:08,800
Speaker 1: how people get asking me a Beatles story for you, huh,

2180
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 1: A Beatles story from you? All the Beatles, like I said,

2181
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:20,160
Speaker 1: that was just just like John Lennon Paul No, No,

2182
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:22,040
Speaker 1: I've never met him, because I said, I mean I

2183
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:24,720
Speaker 1: met George Harrison. I met him. You know. They all

2184
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:29,040
Speaker 1: were their own entity and whatever that was that took

2185
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 1: rock and roll to another. But they weren't even rock

2186
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 1: and roll originally, but they were basically they weren't until

2187
02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 1: the George Martin started producing them and putting all those

2188
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 1: classical strings and things behind them. Then they became something

2189
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,960
Speaker 1: other than a rock and roll. Their first records, they

2190
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:50,640
Speaker 1: records without all the strings and things. It's basically rock

2191
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:53,600
Speaker 1: and roll, simple rock and roll at that when they

2192
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:55,280
Speaker 1: were suited up there, they were rock and roll though

2193
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 1: they was there. But but then George Jorge Martin actually

2194
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 1: performed put simping stuff there. Over their music, they became

2195
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 1: more eclectic, very e classic, I mean to the point

2196
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 1: of almost jazz, because the classic it was symphony, you

2197
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it was still rock and roll,

2198
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 1: and they had all the elements of what rock starring

2199
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 1: was and they had different styles of real good music.

2200
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:23,879
Speaker 1: Whenever somebody else did their songs, it really when Aretha

2201
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 1: would do Yesterday, Ray Charles would do Yesterday, their song

2202
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:32,920
Speaker 1: was conducive to serious R and B singers, right and

2203
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:36,040
Speaker 1: you can their song worked very well. But they were

2204
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:38,960
Speaker 1: the ones that just gave it all that class and

2205
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 1: it was something to shoot for. And that's what we did.

2206
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 1: We did not want to be a regular band. We

2207
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:48,080
Speaker 1: wanted to be a thing, an extraordinary band. We call

2208
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:52,320
Speaker 1: it polo Funkadelic, mint thing. We could be anything we

2209
02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 1: wanted to. We have to get morph into whatever you want.

2210
02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,320
Speaker 1: Nobody wouldn't say that, ain't your bad. You were on genre.

2211
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:01,680
Speaker 1: We didn't want to be in a bad You wanted

2212
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,920
Speaker 1: to be like Sunrin just do music and people say

2213
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:08,400
Speaker 1: that that's weird. But when you do get one, let's

2214
02:12:08,440 --> 02:12:11,280
Speaker 1: be like, oh, it stands by itself like a Tommy dog.

2215
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing. We couldn't even do another Tommy doll. Nobody

2216
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:17,600
Speaker 1: can't you know, that's that's never gonna happen. I was

2217
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:20,080
Speaker 1: just one of those stories, you know, where I walked in.

2218
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, highs hell. I thought they

2219
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 1: were recording without me, and ran into the studio, told

2220
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:30,520
Speaker 1: everybody let me sing, and they had to tape on backwards.

2221
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:35,160
Speaker 1: So I sang to the tape this backwards. It's like, oh,

2222
02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:38,560
Speaker 1: and once I did it, it was too late. They

2223
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:40,600
Speaker 1: had to finish it that way. They had to put

2224
02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:45,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the instruments on. So no, that was

2225
02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 1: in Detroit. So when you heard it that way, would

2226
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 1: you say, yeah, this is gat That's why I'm talking

2227
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:52,480
Speaker 1: so long. This is a story on famous dogs. I'm

2228
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:55,240
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what kids. Then I'm trying and

2229
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't force my way in the studio, so everybody's

2230
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:01,240
Speaker 1: like like they're looking right there. I'm looking right through

2231
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 1: the glass. They all looking at me, and I'm trying

2232
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:06,680
Speaker 1: to figure out what fucking kids and ain't got no key,

2233
02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:09,440
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to kill time. This is the story

2234
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 1: of famous dogs. I'm sure you're trying to sort the

2235
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:18,920
Speaker 1: from sorry, but this is the main my head with

2236
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:22,040
Speaker 1: the clap, I mean, all of that was just ad

2237
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:25,200
Speaker 1: lived into what wasn't gonna gonna Well, I must I

2238
02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:29,000
Speaker 1: feel like that, moll must I chase the cat nothing

2239
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 1: mother dog and me ain't told as fuck that's not

2240
02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 1: committing to a key. And then do the dog kids?

2241
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:40,560
Speaker 1: Did I realize, damn this making sense to the dog catcher?

2242
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 1: And I saw everybody start laughing. And once you know

2243
02:13:44,160 --> 02:13:47,320
Speaker 1: I drove you, you're seeing people laughing your ego arow,

2244
02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:53,879
Speaker 1: you didn't drove you. I got this mother hippi yo yippy.

2245
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 1: Why that's an incredible that is the real. Because everybody's

2246
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:12,560
Speaker 1: looking at it. They told me we're waiting on you

2247
02:14:13,400 --> 02:14:15,960
Speaker 1: because we we we know we got to wreck it

2248
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:20,600
Speaker 1: on backwards. But now they have to go back in

2249
02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:23,560
Speaker 1: and put the drums on it. Gall invented something brand new,

2250
02:14:23,840 --> 02:14:30,280
Speaker 1: brand new, brand new. Wow do you I know we

2251
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:34,280
Speaker 1: spoke about this earlier and I think he he uh.

2252
02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:38,600
Speaker 1: I asked you and I'm gonna just reiterate it in

2253
02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:41,800
Speaker 1: a different way. But didn't know how much important you

2254
02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 1: are to this culture. I don't know that I taking away. No, No,

2255
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:51,840
Speaker 1: but I believe me. I do know. That's why I was, like,

2256
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:55,800
Speaker 1: we've been I can say that kind of stuff. You

2257
02:14:55,920 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 1: need somebody like that to say that culturally, U civil

2258
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:04,400
Speaker 1: rights in that. Otherwise we're just talking shit. You know,

2259
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:07,400
Speaker 1: we're just kicking it and talking shit. But to say

2260
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:10,480
Speaker 1: it like that, you need somebody to put it on

2261
02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 1: that kind of light that. I mean. I was at

2262
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 1: the college today, I was, what is the coach? They

2263
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,200
Speaker 1: just being Crump college. They just changed the name of

2264
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:22,920
Speaker 1: quot Ben Crumb. We're out here, yeah, and it's and Nehew, right,

2265
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:25,920
Speaker 1: his nephew is a nephew is here. His nephew is here. Oh,

2266
02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:29,440
Speaker 1: where's it that? Whe's the college that Saint Thomas? Yeah,

2267
02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:33,640
Speaker 1: Saint Thomas. Okay, so that's what That's what I'm doing,

2268
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:37,080
Speaker 1: not to to that's fine, to live up to that

2269
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:40,120
Speaker 1: kind of shit. That's them. You know, I'm too lazy

2270
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:42,800
Speaker 1: to do. I don't know. Don't try to preach. I

2271
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 1: can talk shit all day. No, but you know what,

2272
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:48,440
Speaker 1: but you know what, um our culture um part of

2273
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:50,480
Speaker 1: the reason. And I'm sorry to get so deep right

2274
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:53,440
Speaker 1: part of shit? How about another one? I thought I

2275
02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:58,200
Speaker 1: just drink one shit together, buddy. So but part of

2276
02:15:58,280 --> 02:16:01,760
Speaker 1: that reason, Um, I watched recently, I think Dave Chappelle

2277
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:06,760
Speaker 1: and these people go back to Ghana, right, and they went,

2278
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:11,680
Speaker 1: you want to use the bathroom? Okay? Oh but um

2279
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:15,400
Speaker 1: they went back to Ghana and then they start saying

2280
02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 1: all this, these things, and what you don't realize is

2281
02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 1: that a lot of us they started to think that

2282
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:25,800
Speaker 1: we started in this country as slaves. They didn't realize

2283
02:16:25,840 --> 02:16:28,360
Speaker 1: that we were kings and queens. And this is this

2284
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:32,040
Speaker 1: place in Ghana is teaching right. So I saw this

2285
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:34,480
Speaker 1: say that, and I say, damn, you know what if

2286
02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:37,400
Speaker 1: we don't notice, if we don't know that we didn't

2287
02:16:37,400 --> 02:16:39,880
Speaker 1: started as slaves, we started as kings and queens. If

2288
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:45,280
Speaker 1: we don't know this, um, others won't know that neither.

2289
02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:47,520
Speaker 1: So I say that to say this, I just want

2290
02:16:47,560 --> 02:16:50,680
Speaker 1: you to know, like as a hip hopper, I've made

2291
02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:57,120
Speaker 1: my career through hip hop. Um, I've made my life.

2292
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 1: I was able to save people through it, Pop. But

2293
02:17:00,920 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you, and it wasn't for people

2294
02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:10,400
Speaker 1: prior to me recognizing who you are, then I don't

2295
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:12,760
Speaker 1: think a lot of us will be here today. Wow.

2296
02:17:14,640 --> 02:17:19,879
Speaker 1: And that's it's girl shit like I knew. I knew exactly,

2297
02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:22,080
Speaker 1: but you know, I was studying you for months because

2298
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:24,640
Speaker 1: it's once once we started and I was like damn,

2299
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:29,000
Speaker 1: damn and damn. I never stopped saying damn. Every time

2300
02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:32,880
Speaker 1: I'll discovered something, something new, and I was just like wow.

2301
02:17:33,160 --> 02:17:35,600
Speaker 1: And it's like the thing about it is, we want

2302
02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:38,520
Speaker 1: to give you your flowers. We want to continue to

2303
02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:42,000
Speaker 1: salute you and to tell you you know you're doing great,

2304
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:44,880
Speaker 1: and to tell you that you're fighting a great fight

2305
02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:48,760
Speaker 1: because we're not worried about it. If anybody else does

2306
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:50,600
Speaker 1: or don't be worried about it if we do it

2307
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:53,480
Speaker 1: due and this is the reason why we have to

2308
02:17:53,560 --> 02:17:55,440
Speaker 1: do this, and we have to look at you face

2309
02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:57,720
Speaker 1: to face, man and man out of eye, and look

2310
02:17:57,720 --> 02:18:00,720
Speaker 1: at your beautiful family and say, we appreciate you. You

2311
02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:03,440
Speaker 1: appreciate what you do. We appreciate you continue to do it.

2312
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:07,160
Speaker 1: You appreciate your smile getting brighter. You're a smile getting

2313
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:13,680
Speaker 1: brighter because because so many I've been through what you

2314
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:15,920
Speaker 1: you've been through, so and so many people have been

2315
02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:17,640
Speaker 1: through what you you've been through, and you know what

2316
02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:21,080
Speaker 1: they become. They become bitter people, and you ain't better.

2317
02:18:21,240 --> 02:18:24,040
Speaker 1: You're sitting here with a smile this whole time, and

2318
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:26,959
Speaker 1: this whole that I when I say this whole time,

2319
02:18:26,959 --> 02:18:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't mean this whole time here. I mean this

2320
02:18:28,720 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 1: whole time in life. And I watched you with your

2321
02:18:31,600 --> 02:18:33,040
Speaker 1: recent performance. I don't know. I think it was in

2322
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:35,520
Speaker 1: New Orleans, I'm not I'm not sure. And you had

2323
02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:37,800
Speaker 1: on a red shirt and I'm just in a red

2324
02:18:37,879 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 1: suit and you sitting there and I'm just looking. I'm

2325
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:44,920
Speaker 1: like that man, smile got brighter, it got better, and

2326
02:18:45,280 --> 02:18:47,600
Speaker 1: my weapon I learned that ship worked a long time ago.

2327
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:54,400
Speaker 1: I got a permanent crease. No but to me, let me,

2328
02:18:54,440 --> 02:18:56,320
Speaker 1: let me just say, it's an outside of that's looking in.

2329
02:18:56,840 --> 02:18:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, that's what I strive to be.

2330
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:02,000
Speaker 1: You know, like as as at a time, I'm gonna

2331
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:04,600
Speaker 1: be honest with you. You know, I've been doing rap

2332
02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:07,240
Speaker 1: for twenty five years, but it's been time where I

2333
02:19:07,320 --> 02:19:09,240
Speaker 1: got on stage and I just did not want to

2334
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:12,640
Speaker 1: be there. Like I gave a horrible show. I did

2335
02:19:12,720 --> 02:19:15,240
Speaker 1: not participate with the people. The people start putting out

2336
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:18,920
Speaker 1: their phones and I was just like I just did

2337
02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 1: not want to be there because I didn't have the

2338
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:24,440
Speaker 1: same amount of love that I had when I first

2339
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:29,439
Speaker 1: started get jaded. Of course, of the transition, the transition

2340
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:32,320
Speaker 1: that went from YO, look at me, motherfucker, to now

2341
02:19:32,400 --> 02:19:34,280
Speaker 1: it's like I just feeling you because I want to

2342
02:19:34,280 --> 02:19:36,600
Speaker 1: show my girlfriend, or I'm just feeling you because I

2343
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:39,760
Speaker 1: want to show my homeboy. Yeah, you started analyzing it

2344
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:43,680
Speaker 1: and figuring out what people do. Ye always danger, I

2345
02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:46,520
Speaker 1: used to tell people in the audience, They've been looking

2346
02:19:46,560 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 1: at us trying to analyze what all these niggas doing

2347
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:56,360
Speaker 1: up here. You can't even count us. You can't analyst

2348
02:19:56,720 --> 02:20:00,520
Speaker 1: because we're doing everything to be unanalyzed. Were doing this

2349
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:03,879
Speaker 1: on purpose. You can't even count us. So you pay

2350
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:07,160
Speaker 1: money to come to see the show. Y'all enjoy this show,

2351
02:20:07,640 --> 02:20:12,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and because the people leaving up there,

2352
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,840
Speaker 1: they'll come to the show coming in. Man, this ain't

2353
02:20:14,879 --> 02:20:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna be shit. I mean there's certain attitude, certain people

2354
02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:21,760
Speaker 1: normal not even thinking about it. This I'm going you know,

2355
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:23,760
Speaker 1: but this ain't gonna But if you call them out

2356
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:27,080
Speaker 1: on it, hey, you can analyze. You wanted you're gonna

2357
02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:29,640
Speaker 1: miss the show. Once they realize that, then they lay oh,

2358
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:32,360
Speaker 1: try to pay attention to this motherfucker, and then they

2359
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:35,040
Speaker 1: end up Damn, they here with us. When we get

2360
02:20:35,080 --> 02:20:37,320
Speaker 1: ready to leave, they're in the parking lot because most

2361
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:39,720
Speaker 1: people thinking about let me get to the parking lot

2362
02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:41,920
Speaker 1: before the other people get there so I can get

2363
02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:44,560
Speaker 1: out there, don't get stuck in the traffic. We make

2364
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:47,680
Speaker 1: them stay till the last minute trying to figure out

2365
02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 1: what the book else they gonna do. God, I call

2366
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:52,640
Speaker 1: them out on it. That way you can actually be

2367
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:55,800
Speaker 1: loosening up to have fun as opposed to trying to

2368
02:20:55,800 --> 02:20:58,800
Speaker 1: analyze what the days about to that? Did you pay

2369
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:02,440
Speaker 1: money to see this show? Getting baid s like that?

2370
02:21:02,520 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 1: Then the good time a good time. In that way,

2371
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:11,240
Speaker 1: we all end up having to be even at the

2372
02:21:11,320 --> 02:21:14,680
Speaker 1: same time and to talk a lot. Damn. You know

2373
02:21:14,840 --> 02:21:21,960
Speaker 1: you ever heard of versus versus versus versus? Yeah, I

2374
02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:26,040
Speaker 1: don't know who to do it with. He wou want smoke.

2375
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,720
Speaker 1: It sounds like you want smoke. You're like, who who

2376
02:21:28,800 --> 02:21:31,960
Speaker 1: want it? That's what I interpreted it. He can do it,

2377
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:35,960
Speaker 1: he can do it against himself. He looked at me,

2378
02:21:36,120 --> 02:21:40,440
Speaker 1: like what against We started to do that? We started

2379
02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 1: to do that? Well, who swiss beast? Called. You know,

2380
02:21:43,480 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 1: we talked. We talked with them. We wanted to dude

2381
02:21:46,760 --> 02:21:51,800
Speaker 1: people Parliament funka deli and versus George Clinton and the

2382
02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:57,720
Speaker 1: people that sampled us, the people me and the people

2383
02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:02,480
Speaker 1: that sampled us against Parliament funk and everything would be wow.

2384
02:22:03,480 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready anybody I could, I could do that

2385
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:12,120
Speaker 1: with and get them in it. So that way to be.

2386
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:15,800
Speaker 1: But we guys, playing list set up? Can we get

2387
02:22:15,800 --> 02:22:18,600
Speaker 1: his playing playlist? That's want to do five seconds of

2388
02:22:18,760 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 1: his first fifteen records of his playlist police. I just

2389
02:22:22,280 --> 02:22:24,280
Speaker 1: wanted to let you know you're smoking. Everybody money's on you,

2390
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:28,879
Speaker 1: just in case anybody wanted to versus, Well, my money's listen.

2391
02:22:28,959 --> 02:22:31,119
Speaker 1: While we set that up, I'll be revistive. I didn't

2392
02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:33,720
Speaker 1: ask you this, so I'm que and American. I want

2393
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:43,760
Speaker 1: to know any Latin Cuban scoan. So there was influences.

2394
02:22:45,480 --> 02:22:47,480
Speaker 1: That was the number one R and B song in

2395
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:56,960
Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey in eighteen fifty six, Take You

2396
02:22:57,000 --> 02:22:58,960
Speaker 1: Gotta Set Up and in the B side of it

2397
02:22:59,360 --> 02:23:03,720
Speaker 1: with your Come You that was the B side of it.

2398
02:23:04,280 --> 02:23:06,040
Speaker 1: That was the B side of B side of the

2399
02:23:06,160 --> 02:23:11,640
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six Wow our cast right outcast sample this,

2400
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:16,680
Speaker 1: our cast, sample this, A lot of people sample this

2401
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 1: wasn't just outcast her that. I'm just no no okay,

2402
02:23:36,520 --> 02:23:42,600
Speaker 1: don qute dog. You got the snoop dog record right there.

2403
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:47,879
Speaker 1: I'll take a shout. You want a shot, He'll take

2404
02:23:47,879 --> 02:24:05,880
Speaker 1: a shot. Qute dog. Shot that you get the stupe.

2405
02:24:11,879 --> 02:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Let me get you a shot. Turn up, turned up

2406
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:16,640
Speaker 1: and be getting my shot. Get it down, turn it up.

2407
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:20,320
Speaker 1: You gotta get my shot. Shot too, yo yo, cleared up.

2408
02:24:20,959 --> 02:24:23,080
Speaker 1: We gotta get him my shot real quick. He got

2409
02:24:23,160 --> 02:24:24,760
Speaker 1: you deserved this one, and give me your shot. I

2410
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:28,680
Speaker 1: got I didn't shot on all right, let's go king

2411
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:39,960
Speaker 1: all right, father, let me get a shot. We finished

2412
02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:44,560
Speaker 1: the Mama water Baby, take them on. We finished it.

2413
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:49,520
Speaker 1: The Corona Corona virmus. This is this. Don't look chilled

2414
02:24:49,560 --> 02:25:03,920
Speaker 1: at all? Ready? You ready to excellent? Who that was? Terry? Look?

2415
02:25:06,800 --> 02:25:14,920
Speaker 1: I knew? Yeah? Bragle love Yeah, next work, gonna'll be

2416
02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:17,879
Speaker 1: wilding out in this movie. Can we have a little fun?

2417
02:25:18,040 --> 02:25:22,280
Speaker 1: We have a little fun. Oh remember the celebration, George,

2418
02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:27,560
Speaker 1: celebrate you and he gonna sooke India, y'all versus I

2419
02:25:27,720 --> 02:25:37,800
Speaker 1: got my money on George, what's your In my mind,

2420
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:39,920
Speaker 1: the reason why y'all kind of funck is y'all got

2421
02:25:40,000 --> 02:26:09,840
Speaker 1: an ugly funk face shot. We didn't want one shot.

2422
02:26:09,920 --> 02:26:13,240
Speaker 1: Let's go. I was like, I was, you want my majuana, bro,

2423
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:20,320
Speaker 1: you want some majuana, bro, I'm seen in your faced. Dude, dude,

2424
02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 1: come oh, come on man, God damn ya. I didn't

2425
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:33,080
Speaker 1: think he was gonna do that. Look, she got you too.

2426
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:35,000
Speaker 1: You got too. You know you gotta do too. You

2427
02:26:35,080 --> 02:26:38,800
Speaker 1: gotta do black and white. It don't matter if you

2428
02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:47,560
Speaker 1: black solo at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cheers, cheers, cheers. Yeah,

2429
02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:50,400
Speaker 1: you do that with him first. I'm white, I'm white,

2430
02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm white. What's that? Mama wanna from the Midican Republic?

2431
02:26:54,440 --> 02:26:56,440
Speaker 1: They make that in the kitchen and kids do No, No,

2432
02:26:56,520 --> 02:27:03,880
Speaker 1: that's nothing. You got nothing over there? What damn what

2433
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:20,200
Speaker 1: do Yeah? Yeah? Mh damn god, damn it. Oh shit, No,

2434
02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:28,560
Speaker 1: he got no no yeah hers who who he can't follow?

2435
02:27:28,840 --> 02:27:32,640
Speaker 1: It's a little follow my drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You

2436
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:34,840
Speaker 1: know we got to do version of Tommy Dog coming

2437
02:27:34,840 --> 02:27:39,039
Speaker 1: out right, Yes, dog, we already know we established staff.

2438
02:27:39,240 --> 02:27:43,879
Speaker 1: Real video is done. Oh my god, oh god, oh

2439
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:47,800
Speaker 1: here we go. Oh that everybody that's that day I

2440
02:27:47,920 --> 02:27:51,440
Speaker 1: saw right there. No, that's underground version and did you

2441
02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:56,120
Speaker 1: under us? Oh there's a remake. It's a rebig thing. No,

2442
02:27:56,200 --> 02:28:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm cool happening. I'm just hearing DAYL I saw my yo.

2443
02:28:03,640 --> 02:28:06,480
Speaker 1: But when did you don't came out to Sam on

2444
02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:10,200
Speaker 1: this too, to box Sam with the did you goes? Oh, yeah,

2445
02:28:15,400 --> 02:28:18,240
Speaker 1: what's do what you like? Calls assens, I realize do

2446
02:28:18,360 --> 02:28:22,240
Speaker 1: what you like? Yeah. That was one of the longest

2447
02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 1: hip hop records ever. It was so dope, need deep clean,

2448
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:34,400
Speaker 1: long man. One more to do, one more and this

2449
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:38,880
Speaker 1: one more shot, one more shots. It's direction. Hey, you

2450
02:28:38,920 --> 02:28:48,440
Speaker 1: ain't been saying don't do that? Just lives you shot

2451
02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:55,040
Speaker 1: at the man? There he goes, I'm doing sad. Yeah. Yeah,

2452
02:28:55,720 --> 02:29:15,720
Speaker 1: look cheers, not cheerous, serious, appreciate you and keeping so much. Okay, okay,

2453
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:23,440
Speaker 1: thank you citizens of the universe. Recording. Ain't experien to

2454
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:27,240
Speaker 1: clean to hearing me, hadn't on the mother I am

2455
02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:31,800
Speaker 1: the Mothership connected getting down and three D and you're

2456
02:29:31,800 --> 02:29:35,240
Speaker 1: like bang your boys and so like contic you need nobody.

2457
02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody who needing the boy down? You have shot act.

2458
02:29:40,120 --> 02:29:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm ready hold on it. Listen, I'm gonna take this

2459
02:29:46,520 --> 02:29:48,320
Speaker 1: shot with you and not you gonna ask you two

2460
02:29:48,400 --> 02:29:50,680
Speaker 1: more questions to be gonna wrap it up. But hold on, hold,

2461
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:57,400
Speaker 1: let's do it together. Look, I always asked peas raising up,

2462
02:29:57,600 --> 02:30:03,600
Speaker 1: raising up with Joan, Okay, I always gets that makes

2463
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:14,480
Speaker 1: me know. I always ask people it's beautiful, damn our bully,

2464
02:30:15,280 --> 02:30:21,440
Speaker 1: our bully. So mister George, right, mister George Clint and

2465
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:27,240
Speaker 1: so my grandkids. Grand mister, I ain't gone. I look

2466
02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:29,280
Speaker 1: up to you, so I gotta I gotta address you

2467
02:30:29,400 --> 02:30:35,920
Speaker 1: as such. But I always ask people in the midst

2468
02:30:35,959 --> 02:30:40,920
Speaker 1: of making history, do you know you making history? Oh yeah,

2469
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 1: you knew? Oh yeah, I'm not hearing that. I mean

2470
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot of shit just because I can, I do it,

2471
02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:48,880
Speaker 1: and then knowing that sooner or later somebody's gonna peep it.

2472
02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:52,280
Speaker 1: So a lot of stuff it's playing in there now.

2473
02:30:53,120 --> 02:30:55,760
Speaker 1: I got the platform and I know that. But you're saying,

2474
02:30:55,800 --> 02:30:58,959
Speaker 1: when you did we did this crazy music, you knew

2475
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:03,280
Speaker 1: I just gonna lie. I knew that. Yeah, if the

2476
02:31:03,440 --> 02:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Motown and what they've done in music and Beatles and

2477
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:11,360
Speaker 1: what they've done, I knew that. Getting me a spaceship,

2478
02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:13,800
Speaker 1: get me up and that I was gonna make a

2479
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:18,000
Speaker 1: serious imprint. I knew that, you know, it just couldn't

2480
02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:21,600
Speaker 1: be commercial straight commerce had to do it the way

2481
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:23,920
Speaker 1: I do it, and and it was. We were able

2482
02:31:23,959 --> 02:31:26,440
Speaker 1: to do it that way and actually have a reason

2483
02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 1: for doing it, being able to explain our point of view.

2484
02:31:30,120 --> 02:31:32,800
Speaker 1: We had to do our own pr so we can

2485
02:31:32,879 --> 02:31:36,280
Speaker 1: put our interpretation on what we were doing. We couldn't

2486
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:38,840
Speaker 1: leave it up to the radio station on the media

2487
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:41,279
Speaker 1: to do it. We would do it and set it ourselves.

2488
02:31:41,320 --> 02:31:46,240
Speaker 1: On the album covers, we talked about the people on fans,

2489
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:50,720
Speaker 1: so we pretty much colored and directed what people thought

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02:31:50,720 --> 02:31:53,440
Speaker 1: about us. You know, over the years we know that

2491
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:56,760
Speaker 1: that's important. That's why I say TikTok, and I know

2492
02:31:56,840 --> 02:31:59,480
Speaker 1: how to get on there and get in with who's

2493
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:02,520
Speaker 1: ever run and ship and be down with them and

2494
02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:05,040
Speaker 1: you be accepted as that. So basically you say you

2495
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:07,360
Speaker 1: knew your legacy. Yeah, I was planning now, but you

2496
02:32:07,400 --> 02:32:09,480
Speaker 1: couldn't understand where it was gonna No, I didn't know

2497
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:12,640
Speaker 1: where when you was gonna fall? Will I be here?

2498
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Not right? I knew that I set up plans. I

2499
02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:19,959
Speaker 1: mean the copyright, the paperwork for the lawsuits. I left

2500
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:23,160
Speaker 1: them all over this country with different people. That's gonna

2501
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:28,880
Speaker 1: be able to bring them out influentially, influentially like the style, yeah,

2502
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:31,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, nature. He's so outside of the box, like

2503
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know. Don't quote me on this,

2504
02:32:34,320 --> 02:32:38,040
Speaker 1: but I feel like going back from Africa Bombada and

2505
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:41,640
Speaker 1: moving on Andre three thousand. When he started dressing the

2506
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:44,879
Speaker 1: way he was dressing, it was all linked balls. Whenever

2507
02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:48,080
Speaker 1: I find somebody that's actually you free people people in

2508
02:32:48,200 --> 02:32:50,880
Speaker 1: us and do it, I'm gonna get with them so

2509
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:53,520
Speaker 1: they get They get it by being hanging with me.

2510
02:32:53,760 --> 02:32:56,080
Speaker 1: I get if I've been hanging with them, right, you

2511
02:32:56,200 --> 02:32:59,560
Speaker 1: know pretty they all tell the same story. It's cool, dude,

2512
02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:02,800
Speaker 1: he's right when they when Kendrick believe me, I knew

2513
02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:07,840
Speaker 1: my grandkids told me and like this show. When they

2514
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:15,720
Speaker 1: told me we would love granddad, granddad. Do this show

2515
02:33:16,200 --> 02:33:23,880
Speaker 1: that you you like doing this show? Granddaughter? They keep

2516
02:33:23,959 --> 02:33:31,480
Speaker 1: me up. It makes she's going there with Kendrick. She said,

2517
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:33,720
Speaker 1: oh you like him, you like him? He talked like

2518
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:36,520
Speaker 1: and when he came it was I always got some

2519
02:33:37,000 --> 02:33:40,080
Speaker 1: one that got a little smaller. Grandkids they got me

2520
02:33:40,160 --> 02:33:45,720
Speaker 1: up on all of the hip Hop, the Trap, the

2521
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta Cruise, all the new people, the Megoes and everybody,

2522
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:53,480
Speaker 1: all of them. I stay up on it coast. They

2523
02:33:53,959 --> 02:33:56,760
Speaker 1: let them influence me and tell me who's doing what.

2524
02:33:57,280 --> 02:34:00,240
Speaker 1: And they had me on TikTok doing you know, oh

2525
02:34:00,280 --> 02:34:02,560
Speaker 1: I know it did this is hey. I knew just

2526
02:34:02,680 --> 02:34:06,760
Speaker 1: the kid. I knew the kids doing that. And you

2527
02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:08,920
Speaker 1: can see the old folks getting in there now trying

2528
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:13,199
Speaker 1: to you know that that's the new place to hang out. Yeah,

2529
02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, and so yeah, I get with whoever's happening.

2530
02:34:18,160 --> 02:34:20,160
Speaker 1: That works for me, just like it works for them.

2531
02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:22,080
Speaker 1: They called me to be on that record, I called

2532
02:34:22,160 --> 02:34:24,720
Speaker 1: them back. That's my only thing by doing one with you?

2533
02:34:24,879 --> 02:34:27,920
Speaker 1: You doing with me? Right? Kenrid did the record with

2534
02:34:28,080 --> 02:34:31,320
Speaker 1: me and you know, and he didn't realize that I

2535
02:34:31,400 --> 02:34:34,080
Speaker 1: could put that to use like he could. I got

2536
02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:37,320
Speaker 1: him doing videos with me, getting all the way down

2537
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:39,320
Speaker 1: when when I did it when him was you know,

2538
02:34:39,480 --> 02:34:41,760
Speaker 1: I was a feature. I was in there with him,

2539
02:34:42,080 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 1: but I got more out of it than he did.

2540
02:34:44,920 --> 02:34:49,359
Speaker 1: Is it fair to call that equity and legacy? Yeah, definitely,

2541
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:52,640
Speaker 1: equity and legacy. I mean there is equity and legacy.

2542
02:34:53,280 --> 02:34:57,440
Speaker 1: You keep that legacy going and the family together so

2543
02:34:57,600 --> 02:35:02,240
Speaker 1: they be able to I didn't be friends with each other.

2544
02:35:02,440 --> 02:35:05,760
Speaker 1: All of that. You's got to be managed before it happened,

2545
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:07,600
Speaker 1: because if you don't do it before it happened, if

2546
02:35:07,600 --> 02:35:10,480
Speaker 1: you ain't got a wheel and all that shit together,

2547
02:35:10,920 --> 02:35:14,320
Speaker 1: you can leave everybody but the instincts of trying to

2548
02:35:14,400 --> 02:35:17,000
Speaker 1: get over. But I'm not even talking about financially or

2549
02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:19,520
Speaker 1: even like like you know, like in the way you're talking.

2550
02:35:19,520 --> 02:35:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the way that the artists are

2551
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:23,840
Speaker 1: working with you. Oh yeah, it's equity and legacy like

2552
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:27,560
Speaker 1: these artists. Nah, they love you. You're acting who you are.

2553
02:35:27,760 --> 02:35:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh yes, it's why they are. I mean, there nothing

2554
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:32,640
Speaker 1: they can't ask me. They can call me and say

2555
02:35:33,080 --> 02:35:36,280
Speaker 1: you do this, and I'm down for doing it. I

2556
02:35:36,320 --> 02:35:38,680
Speaker 1: can see you a positive reason for me doing it

2557
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:42,240
Speaker 1: even if we ain't got talking about money, because first thing,

2558
02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:46,039
Speaker 1: most people, how much you wanta get, we can figure

2559
02:35:46,040 --> 02:35:49,680
Speaker 1: out somebody you got a shot. I'm gonna be on

2560
02:35:49,879 --> 02:35:52,760
Speaker 1: all that all I got to if I'll be seeing

2561
02:35:52,840 --> 02:35:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get mine. You just let me just reiterate

2562
02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:59,640
Speaker 1: what you mean to us, like there is no matter,

2563
02:35:59,720 --> 02:36:05,520
Speaker 1: there's no The thing is when artists from our generation

2564
02:36:05,720 --> 02:36:10,119
Speaker 1: or generation prior to us or after us. It's an honor. Yeah,

2565
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:14,080
Speaker 1: it's an honor. No, No, it's really is I No, No,

2566
02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:17,520
Speaker 1: it's really is an honor. It's not someone someone you know.

2567
02:36:18,280 --> 02:36:20,199
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you know I cloud around.

2568
02:36:20,200 --> 02:36:22,280
Speaker 1: I play around just the only time it was one

2569
02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:24,840
Speaker 1: of them. I'm not playing around? Is it's an honor

2570
02:36:24,959 --> 02:36:30,600
Speaker 1: to be in your presence for um our generation to

2571
02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:33,440
Speaker 1: sit back and say, because you know, just just me

2572
02:36:34,480 --> 02:36:37,280
Speaker 1: playing the records and just sitting around and me looking

2573
02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:40,920
Speaker 1: at certain people who's younger than thirty reaction and saying,

2574
02:36:40,959 --> 02:36:45,760
Speaker 1: that's Snoop Doggs record, Like, no, it's not, it's a

2575
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:50,480
Speaker 1: that's dr J record. No funny when you're when you're

2576
02:36:50,520 --> 02:36:54,279
Speaker 1: like your great grandkids and say, oh you're playing snod

2577
02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:58,040
Speaker 1: how you playing? You know it's money. You don't even

2578
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:02,080
Speaker 1: have to defend. You like learned that learning. Why do

2579
02:37:02,120 --> 02:37:03,920
Speaker 1: you let me keep thinking? Why you let me keep

2580
02:37:03,959 --> 02:37:10,600
Speaker 1: thinking of beautiful people? No? Because you know, hey not

2581
02:37:11,240 --> 02:37:16,600
Speaker 1: and you snow how you sitting back and most people,

2582
02:37:17,800 --> 02:37:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, they think that record again with him when

2583
02:37:20,320 --> 02:37:23,560
Speaker 1: he took over death death okay, And you don't have

2584
02:37:23,640 --> 02:37:26,280
Speaker 1: to read. They have to read the spam. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2585
02:37:27,280 --> 02:37:30,280
Speaker 1: that whole thing. I went back and redid it. But

2586
02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, for him and hey, when you ready for

2587
02:37:34,280 --> 02:37:37,520
Speaker 1: me to come in, you know, call me him most

2588
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:40,560
Speaker 1: cube Qube did the last album with me, him and

2589
02:37:40,800 --> 02:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Kim ricks on the same song. Wow. Well you know

2590
02:37:45,480 --> 02:37:49,160
Speaker 1: we want you to know why because your legends, legend,

2591
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:55,240
Speaker 1: your icons, icon, you're tycoon's tycoon. You're a person that

2592
02:37:55,400 --> 02:37:58,800
Speaker 1: has to be you know, saluted every single which way

2593
02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:03,360
Speaker 1: of it. So excited man, um, I couldn't believe you

2594
02:38:03,440 --> 02:38:04,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like when I get people like

2595
02:38:04,879 --> 02:38:08,000
Speaker 1: you and Paddy LaBelle like like it's it's like it's

2596
02:38:08,200 --> 02:38:11,440
Speaker 1: it's chills in my body because everybody else too, I

2597
02:38:11,560 --> 02:38:13,879
Speaker 1: kind of get flowers to at some point I compete

2598
02:38:13,920 --> 02:38:17,600
Speaker 1: it with them in music. So it's like, ah, but

2599
02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:20,600
Speaker 1: I ain't compete with you. I ain't compete with you.

2600
02:38:20,760 --> 02:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Cannot compete and I cannot compete dispect you. No, I

2601
02:38:24,040 --> 02:38:26,600
Speaker 1: cannot compete with him. I cannot compete. And what I'm

2602
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:34,680
Speaker 1: saying is everybody you know, uh deserves day flowers. And

2603
02:38:34,800 --> 02:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you deserve a garden man. You know

2604
02:38:39,320 --> 02:38:43,120
Speaker 1: what I mean? You deserve a garden I loved. Give

2605
02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:48,320
Speaker 1: me some more of that greene. You got some hold

2606
02:38:48,320 --> 02:39:07,480
Speaker 1: on you talking like keep on man, drink okay, but

2607
02:39:07,840 --> 02:39:12,240
Speaker 1: na for real? Um. You know when me and if

2608
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:15,360
Speaker 1: Um we got together and we was like, man, we

2609
02:39:15,560 --> 02:39:19,520
Speaker 1: really want to make sure our legends is appreciated. Our

2610
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:26,080
Speaker 1: legends are I don't know what. We just wanted to

2611
02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:28,720
Speaker 1: celebrate the cool. We want to celebrate it. Oh, Man

2612
02:39:30,040 --> 02:39:33,000
Speaker 1: to call me, No, Man, definitely, We're gonna call you again,

2613
02:39:33,320 --> 02:39:35,000
Speaker 1: call me again because we want you. We want you

2614
02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:43,440
Speaker 1: to do your own podcast. Goddamn y yeah, yeah, And

2615
02:39:43,640 --> 02:39:48,000
Speaker 1: we want you to know you are a beacon. I

2616
02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:50,200
Speaker 1: want you to know we got your back. You know,

2617
02:39:50,520 --> 02:39:53,280
Speaker 1: me just digging into your story and me knowing your story,

2618
02:39:53,360 --> 02:39:55,360
Speaker 1: but me thinking I knew your story, and then me

2619
02:39:55,680 --> 02:39:57,800
Speaker 1: you know when we when we booked you, just just

2620
02:39:57,920 --> 02:40:00,800
Speaker 1: digging in. It's just like wow, It's kind of crazy

2621
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:04,920
Speaker 1: because your story is my story. It's just thirty years later.

2622
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:06,880
Speaker 1: For how the fuck do we and you have the

2623
02:40:06,920 --> 02:40:10,840
Speaker 1: same story thirty years later? That means the same system

2624
02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:14,720
Speaker 1: was in effect from then. The record hasn't changed, you

2625
02:40:14,720 --> 02:40:17,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when I'm sitting there because

2626
02:40:17,240 --> 02:40:19,760
Speaker 1: because to be honest with you, I'm not supposed to

2627
02:40:19,760 --> 02:40:22,720
Speaker 1: identify with your story your your story. My story is

2628
02:40:22,720 --> 02:40:25,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be better than yours because and then when

2629
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:28,320
Speaker 1: we have the same exact story, it's just like fuck,

2630
02:40:29,240 --> 02:40:32,360
Speaker 1: this system might not change unless we say it. You

2631
02:40:32,480 --> 02:40:35,840
Speaker 1: have to say it you get into existence. Yes, so

2632
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I want to say to you, you know, face to face,

2633
02:40:39,280 --> 02:40:43,039
Speaker 1: man and man, we appreciate you. We got your back.

2634
02:40:44,200 --> 02:40:46,840
Speaker 1: Whenever you want to come and talk some shit. This

2635
02:40:47,040 --> 02:40:49,440
Speaker 1: ain't no other podcast on all the platform in the world.

2636
02:40:49,440 --> 02:40:53,560
Speaker 1: You can smoke some weed, you bring your grandchildren, you

2637
02:40:53,640 --> 02:41:04,959
Speaker 1: bring the whole band. Welcome. We're gonnacome because you're gonna

2638
02:41:04,959 --> 02:41:07,640
Speaker 1: get that new copy of Atomic that absolutely, but truly

2639
02:41:07,760 --> 02:41:11,160
Speaker 1: and honestly, truly and honestly we want you to understand

2640
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:14,280
Speaker 1: those flowers and the green flowers as well. But we

2641
02:41:14,360 --> 02:41:21,480
Speaker 1: want you to understand that you are beacon in our community.

2642
02:41:22,240 --> 02:41:24,560
Speaker 1: And in case we don't, we talk about you so

2643
02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:27,520
Speaker 1: gracefully when you're not around. Let's talk about you so

2644
02:41:27,640 --> 02:41:38,680
Speaker 1: gracefully when you are around. Appreciate you, appreciate slut And

2645
02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:40,920
Speaker 1: if you're ever having a bad day or if you're

2646
02:41:40,959 --> 02:41:42,720
Speaker 1: ever having an awkward day, or if you're having an

2647
02:41:42,840 --> 02:41:46,879
Speaker 1: off day, just look at yourself in the mirror and say,

2648
02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:51,840
Speaker 1: hip hop wouldn't be hip hop without me. Absolutely, remember

2649
02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:58,760
Speaker 1: remember that that was hard? Did I kill that? Yeah? No, no, no, no,

2650
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:01,040
Speaker 1: no no no. But by the way, because I'm in

2651
02:42:01,320 --> 02:42:04,160
Speaker 1: it with a joke, but I'm not joking. Honestly, that

2652
02:42:04,360 --> 02:42:06,920
Speaker 1: was not a joke at all. When I really listened

2653
02:42:06,920 --> 02:42:09,400
Speaker 1: to your catalogue and its entirety. And I don't use

2654
02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:12,840
Speaker 1: big words, but just bear with me. Entirety is a

2655
02:42:12,920 --> 02:42:17,400
Speaker 1: big word for me. I'm listening to your catalogue, entire team,

2656
02:42:17,400 --> 02:42:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh shit, this motherfucker gave birth to the

2657
02:42:20,240 --> 02:42:24,080
Speaker 1: West Coast. And then quickly reminded me there's no all

2658
02:42:24,160 --> 02:42:27,200
Speaker 1: of hip hop, not just the West Coast mother Flipper.

2659
02:42:27,879 --> 02:42:31,320
Speaker 1: We were talking about Flipper earlier, right, So it actually

2660
02:42:31,360 --> 02:42:34,680
Speaker 1: started on the East Coast. Yeah, it really did. Yeah,

2661
02:42:34,680 --> 02:42:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean were there with it. Like I said, Sam,

2662
02:42:37,720 --> 02:42:42,320
Speaker 1: start bothering them. It was real early, early, early, early

2663
02:42:42,440 --> 02:42:44,800
Speaker 1: early hip hop at seventy eight, when we could see

2664
02:42:44,840 --> 02:42:48,720
Speaker 1: the influence from their dress. Cold. But I just want

2665
02:42:48,760 --> 02:42:51,119
Speaker 1: you to know how much you appreciate it. We want

2666
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:53,360
Speaker 1: you to know that's what we do over here and

2667
02:42:54,600 --> 02:42:57,400
Speaker 1: every day of your life. Just in case you ever

2668
02:42:57,680 --> 02:42:59,200
Speaker 1: like I said it again, but I'm gonna say it

2669
02:42:59,640 --> 02:43:02,320
Speaker 1: just to reiterate what I said. If you ever having

2670
02:43:02,360 --> 02:43:04,200
Speaker 1: a bad day, you just look at yourself in the

2671
02:43:04,280 --> 02:43:11,120
Speaker 1: mirror and say, a hot nigga right now sampled me.

2672
02:43:13,240 --> 02:43:16,080
Speaker 1: They needed me to move forward. Yeah, I'll do it.

2673
02:43:16,120 --> 02:43:19,560
Speaker 1: As long as I'm in the bathroom. We're gonna take

2674
02:43:19,600 --> 02:43:30,080
Speaker 1: a bit. It's only two times I had goosebumps. It's

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02:43:30,160 --> 02:43:36,240
Speaker 1: him in. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production

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Speaker 1: and association with Interval Presents hosts and executive producers n

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Speaker 1: O r E and dj e FN from Interval Presents

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02:43:45,760 --> 02:43:50,240
Speaker 1: executive producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg. Listen to Drink

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Speaker 1: Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever

2680
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