WEBVTT - Leading Off August 2nd, 2024 (Ep. 879) 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.479 Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Bros. MLB. This is Leading 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:09.959 Off Live, brought to you by Bet three six to 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.120 five bed five bucks get one hundred and fifteen bonus 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.640 bets when you use the promo code to leading off. 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.480 It is me Joey P. That of course is the Welsh, 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.720 and it's you, the Peanuts, the Cracker Jacks. It's a 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.880 fun Friday. It's the second of August. A lot to 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.520 get to today in the world of baseball and Welsh. Yes, 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.600 this is the final Joey P Leading Off, but it's 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.639 not the final leading off. I wonder everybody take a 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.760 deep breath. We are a team here. No one man 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.919 is above the team, and it's certainly not me. So 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.479 I hope all the Peanuts and the Cracker Jacks everybody 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.000 hangs out six round for the baseball coverage. I know 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:44.919 Welsh has got some great ideas he's gonna be doing 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.200 in August and September, especially for all of you folks 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.040 who are playing dynasty and starting to look ahead till 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:50.760 next year. So we're gonna have your cover for the 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.600 stretch run of your playoffs. And Welsh, speaking of stretch runs, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.160 we are looking at the Orioles finally bringing up prospects. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.760 I was hoping today we get Unior Camanaro. That was 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.840 my one homes Like, okay, the last day that I'm here, 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.399 we finally get him. Yeah I was wrong, right, you know, 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.920 I finally got him. But Jackson Holliday not the only 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.760 guy who looks like he is back with the Orioles 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.640 and by the way, hit a home run yesterday. But 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.679 Kobe Mayo apparently is on his way as well. The 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.360 twenty two year old prospect, the nine sixty one oh ps, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.720 twenty homers and triple a Welsh. How excited should we be? 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.920 We should be pretty excited. I mean the reason this happened, unfortunately, 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.600 is not exciting because Jordan Westberg fractured his hand. I 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.199 think it was so at least, if anything, it just pressed. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.080 It is really weird, like the prospects. Someone asked yesterday, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.520 like we can have more prospecting segments. I am going 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.600 to do some in August after this week, So I 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.360 want to see what the weird is, Like, why is 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.280 Junior Cameron Aro not up? It still doesn't make sense. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.840 Why was Kobe Mayo not up? Outside of a glut 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.240 of other you know, like really good prospects or guys 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.440 that they don't believe in. Hester kirstaid, Hey, he's doing 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.600 good and he's gone. Goodbye Kobe Mayo though, even though 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.920 I know they have the awesome Ramon Urias twenty homers 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.360 hitting over three hundred so far in triple A, double 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.560 digit walk rate. Strikeouts have been a little bit of 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.120 a problem, and I think that might be a little 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.760 bit of the worry. I think the Jackson Holiday early 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.480 struggles with how much he struck out. That might be 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.120 in the back of their minds. But Kobe Mayo is 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.280 a big power bat, probably gonna hit six or seven 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.799 in this lineup. He's an absolute must pick. There's not 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.480 a lot of prospect must pickups. There were two. It 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.240 was Junior Cavanaro and Kobe Mayo. Those are without hesitation. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.120 You go out and you go and pick up and 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.480 then you see how it rides out. But yes, we 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.280 should be very excited. This is great. The big prospects 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.360 are finally there for the Orioles and we're just August second, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:49.280 Joey's longest he's been on leading off, and Junior Cavanero 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.320 is still not here. So that's the only one that we're. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.200 Still going well. Kevin or didgo two for four with 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.760 a three run homer. I imagine we're gonna see him soon. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.440 I mean even the sarcasm been some places when they, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.079 you know, report his notes and news is starting to 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.160 get pretty hilarious. Who would you rather have in a 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.360 Dynasty League? Though? From everything you've seen and all the 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:08.799 work that you've done in the last couple of years 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.160 on these prospects, Mayo or Caminaro? 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.800 Who is who is the preferred camon Aro? I have 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.360 cam and arow at two on my on my rookie 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.960 ranks right now. So and by the way, I'm undergoing 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.400 a couple of things. I've got my prospect updates, my 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.359 Dynasty updates I'm working on on my Patreon. But also 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.440 I've been doing my P one ADPs, which I think 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.080 you've known about, the prospect ADPs, where I create an 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.120 ADP system for prospects. And cam and Aro is still 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.960 going two or one in all of these, so he's 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.720 going to finish out with an average draft position of two. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.720 Mayo is in the top five. Those are all just 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.920 like you know, ranking type of areas, but I like 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.400 cam and Aro has less of a strikeout problem than 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.080 Mayo has. He's got all fields power. I think it's 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.720 a plus plus bat. I think Mayo is a plus bat, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.720 but with maybe some strikeout issues. You know, the best 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.080 case scenario is he could be like a Riley, which 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.360 is phenomenal. But I think you can look at Cameron 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:06.800 Arow and you can say this could be a first 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.760 round overall talent with where it could end up going. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.280 So I'll go with Cameronaro for the slight edge on 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.840 the plus bat. But again, like these are the dudes, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.720 I just I gotta be honest with you. I did 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.039 not think August first. I didn't think August second you'd 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.360 be here. But also I did not think that Kobe Mayo. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:24.520 But we thought Junior Cavanaro. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.560 I thought Junia Camanaro Mayo would have been here by now, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.159 so that I am surprised about. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.440 Sorry, disappoint everybody. Jerry, by the way, is right. It's 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.000 almost time for the Rainforest Cafe with Andrew Rickson tonight. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.880 We had to adjust a reservation though because delays for 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.599 Derek Brown. I don't think he's gonna make it to 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.960 the cafe today, so we're gonna have to hit the 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.719 cafe a little early, which is probably a good idea. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.920 We want to hear Sion nuggets and then we'll get 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.520 him home. By the way, it feels like a rainforest 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.680 in New Jersey day It's like ninety degrees and the 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.640 ammility is like one hundred and one percent. I don't 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:55.440 know if that's possible. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.680 I do a football show with Andrew Erickson, who is 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.200 taking a train here very shortly. He might be on 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:02.480 the train right now on his. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:03.960 Way to you. Oh, he's on the train right now. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.040 And we were talking because the whole Rainforest Cafe is 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.800 kind of built around him. This is what he said 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.039 to me. I was like, what are you gonna get? 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.320 He was just like, oh, I probably get something just 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.840 really normal. I don't want my stomach to be bad 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.800 and everything like that. I don't get anything crazy. Like 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.000 they probably serve there, like you know, like I don't 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.320 know if I could order like kangaroo. And I was like, 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:28.120 hold on a second, do you think the Rainforest Cafe 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:32.400 serves kangaroo? Eric said, I'm like, it's a Chili's with 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:37.080 a bunch of animatronic like leopards, so it's not it's 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.159 not a big thing. They don't serve. I don't know 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:40.760 anywhere that serves kse Well. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.600 There is something, he says, kangaroo burger, but I don't 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.080 know if it's made of kangaroo. That's the qrush like 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:46.599 it's not. I don't know. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:51.479 It's not made of kangaroo. They're not serving kangaroo. It's 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:52.279 just the name. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:52.520 Not. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.920 Did you think they served kangaroo? 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.640 I don't, and I just don't know if Andrew does, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.279 and I don't want to disappoint him. I'm looking right now. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:00.880 I'm trying to look at some of the things. Uh, 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.600 let's see. Uh the jungle steak and shrimp. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.040 Do you think that's made a jungle the It might. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.039 Be, it's possible. The anaconda pasta, I don't know if 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:11.720 it's got real stake. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.200 You kind of don't want none unless it's got. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:20.080 The Uh. There's something with lava in it too, and 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.279 it's not John, Oh, be. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.279 Careful that one might burn the top of the mouth. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.919 Gotta be real, real careful. Speaking of some of the 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.240 young players, Max Meyer was backing about four runs and 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.159 five innings and a loss to the Braves. That with 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.080 the Braves and Olsen and Alstin Riley both hit on 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.080 runs yesterday, but still good to see Max Meyer up now. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.159 Projectability next year for Max Meyer is really the question here, Welsh, 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.720 because I think with all these things we're gonna talk 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.400 about on the show for the next few months, it's 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.440 really about going forward. It's not so much that you 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.840 will be talking about not so much meaning but more you. Uh. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.599 But if you want me and watch together out of 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.160 Bounds Me Welsh and Bogman every single Monday. Now that 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.280 podcast is dropping over on the main feed out of 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:05.080 Bounds Joe Welsh, Bogman. It's gonna be amazing. So you 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.159 check that out if you can't get enough of us, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.880 and I'm sure you can't, but that's going to be 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.560 starting this Monday, So look for that in your podcast 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.360 feed and get over on the main Fantasy Pro feed. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:19.120 But Max Meyer, what is his upside in twenty twenty 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.360 five considering the way he's been managed in twenty twenty four, Like, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:23.600 is this somebody that you think is going to be 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.679 a middle rotation guy next year, back end spot starter 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.480 guy or is he still too much of a work 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:30.160 in progress? 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.720 Maybe no, I don't know. If he's like a work 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.720 in progress. You see highlights you like see these moments. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.480 It always stands out to me. When I interviewed Nolan 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.600 Gorman a long time ago, he said Max Meyer was 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.440 the nastiest pitcher he had ever faced, and that's always 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.720 stuck out to me. And you can see the flashes 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.000 early on he had in that game, and then he 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.120 just started, you know, unleashing homers and stuff like that. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.040 I think the work in progress will go away as 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.440 long as we see the stuff tick up. Because this 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.840 stuff was down in this game that he just had. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.600 Slider was down a full mile prour, sinker was down 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.040 almost two miles prower, and the fastball was down about 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.320 a half mile prour, and it just didn't have the 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.840 big whiffs. His slider's always been his big dominant pitch, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.600 but we need his fastball to be sitting up. It 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.200 was sitting ninety three in this game, ninety four and 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.680 a half. If he's just you know, he's further removed 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.240 from Tommy John, he's a little bit healthier, he's got 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.080 less of an innings limit restriction going into next year. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.560 I think he's a great dynasty buy right now because 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.520 you're gonna get to see middling results where his stuff 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.080 is wavering. Next year, I think he can come in 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.160 and kind of pull like a Taj Bradley, you know 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.920 what I'm saying, Like there might be a few little 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.120 bumps and would be, but when it goes, when it goes, 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.520 that's where I think Max Meyer's gonna go. It's gonna 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.520 be like a tash. And think next year, by the way, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.040 it's gonna be like Sanuel Contra is gonna be back 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.160 and you're gonna have hate, you know, if they don't 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.439 trade Hazy's listener, like the rotation is gonna be a 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.920 lot better. The team's still gonna stink. It's gonna just 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.720 be Connor Norby's and Kyle Stowers and stuff like that. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.680 But you know what I'm saying, like, I think he's 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.400 a good bye. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.679 Well look, if if that's what the upside is, then 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.120 that's worth a draft stash and be patient. And I 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:06.280 think it should be looking right now. The Amazon fajitas 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.720 also interesting. The python pasta we uh, the anaconda pasta 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.640 or the python pasta always in the possibilities of what 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.920 you're looking. And there's also the volcanic cobb salad. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.800 Cobs and volcanoes. I actually have had snake, but I 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.200 eight snake once, of course I know that it was 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.360 literally there's this old West cowboy town out here called 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.760 West World before everybody saw The Dumb Show and West 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.520 and they had this restaurant in the middle of It's 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.320 literally in the middle of the desert, full on cowboy town, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.840 and it was like two years of living here and 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.520 I had to order and eat rattlesnake. It's good. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.000 Jerry's saying, the volcano salad's good. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:45.880 Right as you're alive. There's real volcano. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.000 So did you like the snake? 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.360 Yeah, the snake was actually quite good at the But I. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.000 Remember Donnie's in the chat. I want to know if 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.080 cousin donnie's eating snake yet, because. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:58.000 He's gosh almost like, oh no, you're right, you should 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.880 have eaten snake. Then Donnie, let that that'll be next day, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.480 our next playdate. We'll go and we'll get you some snake. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.760 Yeah. Jose Ramirez two for three with two Homer. I'm sorry, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:12.440 but you. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.080 Look at that's the that's right there. I'm just totally 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.720 sorry I interrupted you, But no, that's all right. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.760 Welsh never had Canoli's, but he's had a snake. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:21.560 Okay, sorry, let's move on. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.000 That's weird, That's all right. I just well, I know 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.080 you want to go past it. Because Jose Ramirez hit 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.960 another home run for me yesterday. That's really you were 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.120 trying to bury the lead. That's what you're trying. I 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:32.120 thought we were gonna get. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.200 I got a homer to Anthony Santander cash the total 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.760 base and the home run. Mine was a little bit 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.520 more fun of a name. But I will point out 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.640 all I wanted was for you to not get that homer, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:47.000 and you would have your final day been finally knocked 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.840 off that board. You've been on that damn board the 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.560 entire year to your credit. There, you would have been 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.679 knocked off I think had Jose not hit that, and 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.920 that would have been just I think hilarious. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.120 Well, you know, since we're talking about the board, I 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.640 as well take a look at the board real quick 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:02.560 and see what it looks like. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:07.520 You would would the board, man. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:13.080 I got two words for you. Home runs. That's right, baby, 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.280 Look at that still on the board on the last 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.440 day here. From pillar to post, I believe is what 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.920 they would say. Well, in the wrestling business, from pillar 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.960 to post, I've been here, and I will give you 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.280 my home run in perpetuity. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:30.120 Later in the show, Smudge. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.880 It doesn't It's not Aaron. It doesn't rhyme, and it 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:34.679 doesn't rhyme with. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.840 Moh, you know what me excited? 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.439 There you go, Trevor Rodgers not so exciting. Five runs, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.760 four and a third took a big l again, interesting 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.760 reclamation project age, size, left hand or all that stuff. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.960 But I still scratch my head. The Orioles. I think, 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.760 crap the bed this this trade deadline. They could have 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.280 gone out there and gotten a Flaherty or gotten somebody 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.080 else and it would have been much better off for 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.839 so if they don't win the World Series, you can 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.280 look back and say, you know what, they should have 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.240 gone after that picture to put him over the top, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.679 and they failed. So skeptical. Now I'm really annoyed at 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.520 the Orioles, which is why I still bet the Phillies 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.360 to win the World Series. So I guess I should 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.319 be happier, you know on that. Speaking of no joy, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.760 Mike Trout is gonna miss the rest of the season. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:22.600 Another torn meniscus in the knee. Yeah, this is gonna 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.360 be tough. I know, the general maners. Did you see 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.520 the GMS quote yesterday. I've seen the look in his eyes. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.720 He's gonna hit seventy home runs next year. It's gonna 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.640 be so he will. He's not gonna play seventy games 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.200 past year. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:35.880 You're talking about. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.520 It sucks. It really sucks. It sucks for Trout, it 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.040 sucks for baseball. But you know, this is one of 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.320 the I guess it's fallen in the category of the 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.079 what if careers? Right? I think, I know that's kind 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.000 of like a miserable thing to be talking about, but 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.480 it seems like that's where we're I don't know. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.520 If we're there yet, but I suppose you're right, Like, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.640 no matter what, even if he plays for six more 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.559 years and gets the five hundred marker, blah blahi. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.240 More years, six more years, Oh no. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.640 I mean that that's equivalent to two full seasons over 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.040 the six years. But what I'm getting at is like, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.360 like he could he could play through his contract to 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.960 thirty eight. You know, he could get to five hundred 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.400 homers and blah blah blah, but will still be like 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.320 what could have been? I think didn't we do that 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.400 with Griffy? A lot of people did that with Griffy 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:19.880 towards the end. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:20.040 Wow. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:21.719 No, but Griffy still no, no, no, I know he was 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.599 still amazing, but like, oh man, what if, like it 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.000 could have done da da dut. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.280 Well what if? Griffy? Yes, but Trout is almostly more 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.120 depressing what if? Because yeah, sure, a fourteen years in 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.720 the league, three hundred and seventy eight home runs, a career, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.640 two ninety nine hitter for a two hundred twelve stone 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.600 basis on his career, a career nine ninety one ops. Look, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.640 this is one of the all time great players. But 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.080 you know, I get I guess here, I think he's 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:52.000 a Hall of Famer. Would you agree, yes? By Trout? Yeah, sure, Okay, 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:56.719 it's not that Don Mattingley's career. It's not that far 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.559 off from looking like Don Mattingley's career. Mattingly had a 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.600 little les of a peak than Trout, but again, you know, 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.520 more speed for him, domatically a great defensive player too 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.760 in his own right first base. And you know, I'm 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.800 just saying, like I look at it, I go it's 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.280 he's a Hall of Famer. I know you don't like 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:15.800 to play the Hall of Fame game. I always like it. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.720 It's fun. He's a Hall of Famer, but it's gonna 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.160 be one of those things where you look at it, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.200 it's more like the I don't know, like the Larry 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.280 Walker Hall of Famers, and like those other guys were like, man, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:25.040 if they had stayed. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.600 Healthy, Yeah, no, it's a hundred. There's like no doubt 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.680 it's going to be them. We should. If it weren't 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.320 football season, I would have probably asked this because like, 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.840 I'll take the L. What what a what a page 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.000 turning L. The Mike Trout stuff was in fantasy too, 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:43.880 from our preseason debate video where me and Pianowski kind 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.760 of went at it and then me starting the victory lap. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.080 I started like getting my legs up like da da da. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.760 Going on that huge tirade about. 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.000 It, and then me keep going, don runs. I'm like 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.040 the joker at the top of the stairs, and and 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.680 then I just fall and he's hurt and he stinks 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.320 and everything was right and it's just large massive. I 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.640 would have taken that L video for sure, because I'm out. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.160 I Am out for good. He will not be a 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.000 top one hundred player ranked in the next season. Doesn't 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.040 matter about how great his shape of his life is 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.120 unless he's got robotic ham strings and a new back, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.720 and they rebuilt him out of Westworld. I'm not gonna 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.680 be super interested. And let I mean, if we're being realistic, 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.080 if the cost is like almost nothing, I probably will 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.560 fall into it a la you know, Buxton and those 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.520 type of things. But he won't be a top one 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.359 hundred pick. He's just too risky. He's the most chronically 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.160 injured player in baseball and it sucks for fantasy. What 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.200 it really sucks for is dynasty. I own him in 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.960 a dynasty league. I think he's untradeable because nobody will 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:56.080 trade you anything remotely worth getting rid of him, Like 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.080 what he can do when he's active, Like, what are 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:03.000 you gonna go and trade him for baby? No, you're stuck. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.560 If you want him in dynasty, you're stuck. If you're 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.880 gonna play the smart way I would. You just got 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.680 to pray to God you can get thirty games out 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.280 of him. I'm like, God, he looks healthy, and then 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.600 you trade him. So dynasty is the worst. Next year 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.240 it'll be a post one hundred. I might be laying 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.080 it low, by the way, he might be one twenty five, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.480 one fifty, but we just can't do we can't do 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.720 the Mike Trout thing again. I won't be making a 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.160 case why he's you know, oh he's cheap at like 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.960 fifty or sixty or whatever, which I did in the offseason. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.200 It's not worth the juice, is not worth the squeeze. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:34.080 It's bad. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.160 Here's this is fun. You know, Mike Trout is played 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.640 fourteen years now, so I'm looking at him at all 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.800 time home run ranks of three seventy eight, fourteen. Yeah, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.400 so he has he is fourteen years right now. He 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:52.160 is right there with Jeff Kent seventeen seasons, three seventy 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.400 seven home runs. The other guys that are kind of 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.560 close in terms of seasons and home run totals. This 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.080 is fun. You'll love this list. Albert Bell at three 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.920 eighty one, Jim Rice at sixteen seasons, at three eighty two. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.760 Then you've got Ryan Howard thirteen seasons, so one season 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.720 less than Trout three eighty two. Now, again, Mike Trout's 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.680 missed a lot of time in these seasons, so it's relative. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.600 But Larry Walker, a guy missed a ton of time 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:18.159 three eighty three with seventeen seasons. Then you got to 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.919 go all the way up to Jim Edmonds seventeen seasons, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.320 three hundred and ninety three home runs, Joe Carter sixteen seasons, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.760 three hundred and ninety six home runs, and Dale Murphy 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.880 eighteen seasons, three hundred ninety eight home runs. I will 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.560 take this with me forever and ever. Jim Edmonds should 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:34.840 be in the Hall of Fame. The fact that he 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.560 was one and done on the ballot is the most 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.560 absurd thing I've ever seen. He was one of the 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.600 all time greatest defensive center fielders I've ever seen, and 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.720 he's got more home runs than Mike Trout, and maybe 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.200 he'll end up with more home runs of Mike Trout 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.080 with the way things are going. All I know is 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.920 that was a career that was literally one and done 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.600 on the ballot. And I don know as a person. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:52.880 Maybe he's not the his. 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.280 Wife was in Real Housewives or remember my wife watching 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.680 it and she was like, yeah, just yea, this chick's 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.840 married to baseball player and it was Jim Edmonds and 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.440 he was It was not playing a lot. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.640 Of unlikable guys in the Hall of Fame. Okay, he's 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.800 a Hall of Fame baseball player. But anyway, for those 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.040 of you who like that stuff a little uh, you know, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.399