1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: One week left for the preseason, and as we have 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: one week left for the preseason, so what is your 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: biggest point of concern as the team heads into the 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: regular season. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Banged up, big guys on both sides of the line. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that, I'm not sure there's any of the direction 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: to go with that. Welcome in. 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: We're back in Jackson and Nannie Stevens here for Jags 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: A M. Brian Sexton, John Osier. After our beautiful week 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: in Michigan, We're back in the lovely state of Florida 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: as we get ready to wrap up this first section 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: or last section I should say, of training camp and 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: then we head into the regular season. So we got 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: to see some game action this week, if you want 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: to call it that. More action probably in those joint practices. 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, although I will say this, you know, calling the 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: game on television was it was pretty good. I mean, 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: relatively speaking, a preseason game featuring nothing but twos, threes 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: and some fours can generally be easily predicted to be 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: less than stellar. But it was an entertaining game and 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: we saw some young guys do some things. I mean, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: on the first snap of the game, calevon Chase on 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: who we've been talking about. We got to see something. Well, 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: we saw the pass rush right that set up Jeremiah 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: led better for the sack, should have got the sack himself. 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: But there were moments like that Tim Jones over the 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: shoulder catch. We'll talk about all of them, probably over 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: the course of the next half hour, but it was 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: pretty entertaining for a preseason game. 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the theme of this show 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: will be injuries. The second part of the theme, which 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: I think is a different theme the last year, is depth. 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: It looks like, at least in the short term, the 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Jaguars have the depth to withstand this injury issue were 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: talking about. That's interesting. 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: That's our big thing, Number one. We are going to 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: discuss those injuries best laid plans. We came into the 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: season thinking, you know, this team was very deep in 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: certain sections of the roster wide receiver, offensive line, and 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: specifically the offensive line. Suffered several injuries, mostly to the 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: backups that were playing in the game in preseason Game two. 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: But there's some concern there, right, we have, you know, 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: a handful of names. Is there a specific injury that 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: concerns you the most? Friend? 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh, wow, that's a good one, probably the shoulder of 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Anton Harrison. Although the word is that it's an injury 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: that you play with. It's more pain management through the 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: course of the year. But because Cam is going to 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: be down for four games, Walker Little can't slide over 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: and step in and play right tackle. And I guess 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: if you wanted to take that a step further, Josh Wells, 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: because Josh Wells was going to be that veteran third 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: swing tackle in camp in case someone get gets banged 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: up while Cam is down early in the season, and 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: now you don't have him, So Harrison first, Well second. 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are theo And if it stops now and 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: they sort of get this thing settled, I think they're okay. 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: I don't have a feel whether Harrison will play this week. 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: I wondered last week if they might not. You know, 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: as much as you would love to have him get 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: one more half of reps, you wonder I don't know 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: the nature the shoulder injury. You know enough that if 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: they didn't have him in contact for three weeks if 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: that would help significantly. Because every time he's been on 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: the field so far, he's impressed. So you get the 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: idea that they might be said, Okay, well, let's just 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: assume that he's going to continue to impress. He'll be 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: a rookie. But is the benefit of playing him for 69 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: twelve snaps on Saturday outweigh maybe getting him rest until 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: what September seventh, you know, whenever the opener is. In 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: that sense, I would put Josh Well's at the top. 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: The other guys who got injured are mainly Depth. Didn't 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: want to see Cooper Hodges get hurt, though, but I 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: don't think he I don't think the team plans for 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: him to be a big factor in September. So if 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: he can get back by October and be Depth, I 77 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: think you're okay there. I think Wells is the one 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: that really started was a gut punch, because you felt 79 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: almost like, well, that's something I don't have to worry about. 80 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: Whatever reps. He's ten years, he's going to be what 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: he is, and then all of a sudden he's limping 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: around and that's not good. 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: He was an important part of it. And then, of 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: course the one that everyone's wondering about, the statement that 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: was really yesterday by the Jaguars is Devon Hamilton. The 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: coach addressed it this morning they just don't know, right, 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: and so that's one that we're just gonna have to 88 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: kind of wait and watch. 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: We were talking offensive line. To me, that's the biggest 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: one so far because you feel like you have a 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: general idea of Harrison. You don't know with Hamilton, and 92 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: he's really important to the defensive. 93 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: And he was really good in Dallas. So you hope 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: for that one too. 95 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: A list off some of the details for our viewers. 96 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Just because Devon Hamilton, we've heard is a back injury. 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: It was non football related, so they're not going to 98 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: comment on that any further until he's back in the 99 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: building working with the team. In terms of the offensive line, 100 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Blake Hans will be available. I think he was in. 101 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: He was They thought he was in. 102 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: He's not. 103 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: That was that came from the spot. So he'll practice. 104 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: He'll be fine. Shatley is still out dealing with his 105 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: heart issues. 106 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: Supposed to be after another week, Doug said, So that's 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: sort of next week we might get a better idea. 108 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: We'll get a better idea if he's going to be 109 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: back with the team. Anton Harrison dealing with that shoulder injury, 110 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: but he looked fine against Aidan Hutchinson all week last week, 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: and he's playing more than fine. So he's playing through 112 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: that very well. Josh Wells were hearing. I think it's 113 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: a groin injury. They don't have a timeline on that 114 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: could be out for quite some time at least from 115 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: what we heard from Doug so far. And there's definitely 116 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: some other people im missing because I know there was 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: a Kayler. 118 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: Brewer was concussion protocol and Antonio Johnson was a hamstring. 119 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Antonio Johnson was a hamstring. He's going to 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: be out for at least a couple of weeks at 121 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: least from what we've heard so far. 122 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: And then reserve offensive lineman Darryl Williams played through shoulder 123 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: already played through it so and then I think what 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: Doug was most optimistic about today through all that they 125 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 3: get Ben Bartch back this week, which that's really important. 126 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah that if no other injuries, then you basically go 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: the end of the season with your offensive line healthy 128 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: as you thought it would be. Since you knew by 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: the Cam Robinecks, you've bet I suspense you'd have Little 130 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: on the left, Anton Harrison on the right, the bars 131 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: and sheriffood Garden fort and the center. That's your starters, 132 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: and then you just sort of hold your breath until 133 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: these other guys sort of come back and you know, 134 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: provide your depth. All right. 135 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: Big thing number two is a numbers game. We're getting 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: down to that point where they're gonna have to cut 137 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: down this roster very soon to fifty three. And since 138 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: they only do one big cut now, it's a little 139 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 1: bit different than years before. We maybe weed some people 140 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: out when they make that big decision. A lot of 141 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: these skill positions there is an overload. Specifically wide receiver. 142 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: Does the math work out for everybody? And then also 143 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: running backs? How many are they going to keep? Where 144 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: do you have any inkling either of you direction of 145 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: which way they might go with that? 146 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: Here's the interesting rub to this, John is if you 147 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: have to keep an extra offensive lineman right now, what's cover? 148 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 149 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: Right, because of all the injuries, what does that do? 150 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: You're going to keep six receivers, but do you still 151 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: keep four tight ends? Can you keep all four running 152 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: backs that you like? Or does that offensive line issue 153 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: start to create some downflow that impacts your roster? 154 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: And then they become guys where you think, well, we 155 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: like this guy very much. Is another team going to 156 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: like him enough to bring him in over guys that 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: they have gotten, You know that they've developed crushes on, 158 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: so to speak, during their off season. When I say that, 159 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: I think a Garrett Prince for example, Yeah, I think 160 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: this team really really likes Garrett Prince. If it's a 161 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: numbers game, could they think, well, if we try to 162 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: get him through to the practice squad, will anybody else 163 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: like him enough? Or do we just like it? And 164 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm not really singling out him, He's a name the 165 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: posy in my mind. 166 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: You're the best example of that. In twenty fourteen, they 167 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: had a rookie undrafted offensive lineman named Tyler Shatley, and 168 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: they loved him right and they were going to try 169 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: to pass through and get him to the practice squad 170 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: because he wasn't ready to play. And yet they heard from. 171 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: Folks they started getting calls about trading for I think, yeah, 172 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: that was good. So and they realized they couldn't do it. Yeah, 173 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: So that they anticipate this not being a solvable problem, 174 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: meaning they anticipate that they're gonna choose their fifty three 175 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: release guys and then the two or three guys are 176 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: gonna get picked up. And as Doug said, it was 177 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: kind of funny the way he said it, and it 178 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: was a couple of weeks ago. So it's a good 179 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: problem to have, and he said, well, it is if 180 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: you make the right decisions, but you got to make 181 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: sure if the guys you keep are the right guys, 182 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: because sometimes you release guys and you know, make the 183 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: wrong decision there. So it's yes, it's a good problem 184 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: to have the depth, but you don't want to be 185 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: releasing the next you know Whoever. 186 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a little bit. We're gonna 187 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: talk specifically about those wide receivers because I think that's 188 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: still definitely a spot that's up for grabs. Our last 189 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: big thing, though, is untouchables. Now we're talking a little 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: bit about that fifty three men roster got us thinking, obviously, 191 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Lawrence totally untouchable, but who else on 192 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: this roster do you look at and you go, if 193 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: that person is lost for the season, then this significantly 194 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: affects what the record of the team could be, what 195 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: the success of this team could be. Brian, did you 196 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: have anyone in mind if you think about and obviously 197 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Trevor's out, We're out. 198 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Walker Little, right. I think Walker Little has such 199 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: a lynchpin in the offensive line because he can play 200 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: left tackle, he can play left guard. Doug said this 201 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: morning on his call that he thought he played really 202 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: well for his first professional action inside and obviously with 203 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: Anton Harrison in the shoulder, you know, if it's a 204 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: pain management issue, there's gonna be some moments where you 205 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: know you might have to move him around. Walker is 206 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: so valuable to this offensive line that if you lose 207 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: a player like that, we're talking about Josh Wells, a 208 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: ten year veteran who was brought here to be a 209 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: swing tackle, and that being a blow right now. I 210 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: think in the regular season, Walker Little is that guy 211 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: who'll create a downflow that will really thin you out quickly. 212 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't want to lose Calvin Ridley because I 213 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: really think his dynamic element is going to add a lot. 214 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: But if you did, you still feel okay about how 215 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: you're lining up there. And they were effective offensively without him, 216 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: so they I think they could get by. I would 217 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: point on defense, I still say, and people disagree with me. 218 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 3: Josh Allen's the one guy that I do not want 219 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: to lose because whatever his sack numbers are, when you 220 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: lose him, all of a sudden, you're looking around to 221 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: figure out where you're going to get him again. And 222 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: but maybe the biggest one and I'm going with like 223 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: eighteen guys here, Tyson Campbell. If he goes down to me, 224 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: it's Tyson and the rest. I don't know that there's 225 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: a guy in that rest who can get to his level. 226 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: That would be a blow in terms of how they 227 00:10:58,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: line up defensively. 228 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: Just to touch on the Allen point, Allen was fifth 229 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: or sixth in the league with a pass rush percentage 230 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: greater than fifteen percent, right, which means that he was 231 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: constantly the guy that was even if he wasn't getting 232 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: to the quarterback, he was bothering the quarterback. You've got 233 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: to have that guy. I think you're right. 234 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: I think he's critical and he's really really good against 235 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: the run. And I know everybody, well, it's to be 236 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: an agresh. I get that. But you don't want to 237 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: not be good against the run because then teams don't 238 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: have to pass. And he's even more than a cleanup guy. 239 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: There's a lot of plays he makes that might be 240 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: five yard runs and he makes them three yard runs 241 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: and there's two yards in down a distance. He's really 242 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: important on little things like that. He makes them much stouter. Guy. 243 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna go over the game film. 244 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: We had preseason Game two in Detroit last week, so 245 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: we'll go over some of our highlights from that. Stay 246 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: with us Jack Exam is presented by Carshield. You can 247 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: call car shield now if your cars out of manufacturer's warranty, 248 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: do not get stuck with expensive mechanical and computer repairs. 249 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Call car shield now. We're back here in the Hundai 250 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: studios after a week away in Michigan for practices with 251 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: the Lions, and now we get ready for that final 252 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: preseason game on Saturday against the Dolphins. But first we're 253 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: going to recap some of the action against the Lions. Now, 254 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: we didn't see any of the starters except for Walker 255 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: Little playing at guard. But other than that, we saw 256 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the young guys, which is what we 257 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: needed to see in Those are the people that need 258 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: to make an impression in game two if you want 259 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: to have, you know, make the roster. 260 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: And I think there were a lot of guys that 261 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: had positive impressions one and I think you mentioned him 262 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: earlier and now he's really needed. Is Jeremiah ledbetter? 263 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: Right? 264 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: He flashed all over the second half and in Dallas, 265 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: and then again in the first half here the other. 266 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: Night, and including the first play of the game. 267 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: He came out strong, finished off calebon Chase on you know, 268 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: missack opportunity. They're gonna need that big guy if Dvon 269 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: Hamilton is not ready to go at the start of 270 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: the season. 271 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, fully's injury as well. We should mention he's part of. 272 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: My sizzling hot take later on and it's it's so 273 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: hot I can barely stand it. Right, Okay, but this 274 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: doesn't always mean everything, But I think Jaguars fans who 275 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: really follow this team closely and who even live and 276 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: died during the preseason will sort of related to what 277 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Boy, that preseason game was nice the 278 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: other night because it looked like the entire Jaguars roster 279 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: depth wise, was better than the Lions roster. And that 280 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: doesn't always mean that that's the case. If you follow 281 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 3: me like I thought last year, the depth panic about 282 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: this team is way overblown. So I thought they had 283 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 3: depth in some really key situations. But Jaguars fans was 284 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: set around a lot of second half of preseason games 285 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: and watch their teams get rolled because the lines were 286 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: not as good as the other team's lines. That didn't 287 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: look like the casey that I think it was three 288 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 3: ninety nine to one thirty one. You know, again, doesn't always, 289 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: that's not always a declarative statement on how good you are. 290 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: But because there's no game planning goal, it's never. 291 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: A bad thing to have the guys look like they 292 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: did the other night in the second half. So that 293 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: was pretty cool. 294 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: Or at the dad of the day, let's talk a 295 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: little bit about the running backs too. We saw some 296 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: extended carries from Tank Bigsby, who has impressed me at 297 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: least he's really solidified his position here and what the 298 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: role he's going to play on this team. And then 299 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: also Deerannis Johnson had some good runs. So I was 300 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: impressed with at least from the running backs we saw 301 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: and that we saw. There's a lot on the roster, 302 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: but I think some differentiated themselves. 303 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: Johnson's a different style of runner. He's more that third 304 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: down back right. He can he can titch the swing pass, 305 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: he can get around the corner. He showed us on 306 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: the seventeen yeard touchdown the ability to get around the corner. 307 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: But I was really impressed with Johnson's touchdown run up 308 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: the middle. 309 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: He said, set himself up to for as he bounced 310 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: outside before that there's outside run. 311 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like Johnson. I think he's been overlooked because 312 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: there's just so many storylines on this team. But again, 313 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: I always hate to make declar of statements on the preseason, 314 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: but Bigsby looks like he can really run. He's his 315 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: feet in the hole or impressive. The way he sets 316 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: up the runner impressive. 317 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: He's also patient. 318 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has a calmness about him and the ability 319 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: to accelerate. We've been saying for a couple of weeks 320 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: on this show that you kept hearing in the off 321 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: season after the draft that they sort of thought maybe 322 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: they really found something in this kid. 323 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Yea, and it looks like he could explode. Running backs 324 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: coach Bernie Parmally told me early in camp that when 325 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: he went to the tape and started evaluating these guys, 326 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: this was the guy that he wanted the most. Yeah, 327 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: he thinks, and talking to Birmley, he thinks this kid 328 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: might be special, and. 329 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: I think when you also look at this, this is baseline. 330 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: He's not played a regular season game yet and we're impressed, 331 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: but what he's been able to do, I'm excited to 332 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: see kind of what evolves of this, especially with so 333 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: much attention on the passing game, might opened some stuff 334 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: up for him. Also, we'd be remiss if we did 335 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: not talk about the wide receivers, because we discussed that 336 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: last week. Kind of we each had our own person, 337 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: but who's going to be getting that final wide receiver spot? 338 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: We have most of them carved out. I think we 339 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: gave Parker Washington technically the fifth person on our list, 340 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily the five, but who's going to be that 341 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: other guy? 342 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, so I shared this because Doug told me during 343 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: our preseason telecast production meeting that this guy's going to 344 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: be the fifth and that Parker Washington is slotted for 345 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: the sixth. So these guys Jacob Harris, Tim Jones, Kevin 346 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: Austin Junior, and Slash Williams. He didn't mention Elijah Cooks. 347 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: He said those were the four guys that he talked about. 348 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: John He said, those guys have to block a safety. 349 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: They're going to be in in running situations and you 350 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: got to block the safety. I couldn't watch the game 351 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: close enough the other night to see who blocked the best. 352 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: But if you're asking me now, I'll take Seth Williams 353 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: because I think he is a well rounded special teamer blocker, 354 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: and he made clutch catches in both of the two 355 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: preseason games on third down and long. 356 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd still be a little surprised if the kid 357 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: we just saw, Tim Jones isn't the guy, because he 358 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: was still good on special teams. He seems to get it. 359 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: He makes plays when given the chance for the football 360 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: right here. So I'll go with him, But I'm not 361 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 3: banging the table. I think out at that bunch, obviously 362 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: one of those guys is going to make the roster. 363 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: They'll probably just have to take the approach of we're 364 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: going to release three or four receivers and hope like 365 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: heck that one or two of them don't get signed 366 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: somewhere and we can get him back and feel like 367 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: we can manage that situation, and an injury might allow 368 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: one of them to be on the team. You know, 369 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: you don't hope for an injury, but once you get 370 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: him on the practice squad. Sometimes what happens is the 371 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: other spots get injured and you can bring a guy 372 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: up and keep them around your team for the long term, 373 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: turning a short term negative into a long term positive. 374 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: The interesting thing about Harris and then Cooks, who I 375 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: think is I like Harris, Yeah, I do too, is 376 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: that they are so distinctly different than any of the 377 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: receivers you have. They're taller, they're both over six foot five, 378 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: they have immense wingspan, I mean their arms stretch from 379 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: sideline to sideline, and both of them made catches on 380 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: the run, which isn't as easy for those big bodies 381 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: to then turn up the field right. They can make 382 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: the jumping catch sometimes like Harris in Dallas made the 383 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: diving catch, but the catch and run like Cooks made 384 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: the other day, for a big body like that to 385 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: turn his hips and get up the field, that's not 386 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: as easy to do as it looks. 387 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's part of why I don't think 388 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: some of these wide receivers that don't make the final 389 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: roster are going to be available for practice squad. I 390 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: think a lot of other teams are very needy for 391 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: position players or you know, tall receivers, whatever it may be. 392 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: So I don't think there's gonna be a chance that 393 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: a lot of those end up back here on the 394 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: practice squad. 395 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: But yourstance fact, and I think you're right. But then, 396 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: like I said earlier in the show, sometimes teams like 397 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: keeping the guys around who know their scheme. So sometimes 398 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: there's not quite as much movement on that deadline as 399 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: you would think, because if it's if it's just marginal 400 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: between say a Jacob Harris and some receiver in you know, 401 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: Kansas City, the other team might say, well, yeah, we 402 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: like that guy, but this guy knows our system. He's 403 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: been around, So you sort of hope that that plays 404 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 3: into your favor a little bit and you can keep 405 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: some practice squad guys, but they're gonna lose a couple. 406 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: Well, here's the interesting thing. I mean, we didn't even mention. 407 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: We mentioned Austin, we mentioned Harris, we mentioned Cooks, we 408 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: mentioned Tim Jones. Jerray Jenkins has been impressive on the 409 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: practice field, and not told is improving as a special 410 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: teams guy. I mean it's not just through Kendrick. 411 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 3: Pryor, who was on the roster of the whole year 412 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: Avenue and mentioned he was on the roster for a reason. Yeah, 413 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: because they felt like he was an NFL player who 414 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: could step up if there was an injury. He's thinking 415 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: about that wide receiver corps last year is you had 416 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: Austin and Pryor. None of them ever got a shot 417 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: because the wide receiver. 418 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: Let's hope it stays that way. 419 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: It's ridiculously deep. All right. 420 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: Now, let's take a look at Gregory Junior. He had 421 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: an amazing game one of the preseason and Doug talked 422 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: a lot about seeing consistency out of those young defensive players, 423 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we saw in Game two. He 424 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: was involved a lot of stuff, had his pick of 425 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: course here and I mean he's doing all the right 426 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: things at this point. Do you think he can carve 427 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: himself out a starting position if this keeps up? 428 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Yes? I do. I've been told that it's closer than 429 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: people think. He's a bigger, stronger, more physical young presence. 430 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: Nothing against Trey. Trey's been here since twenty eighteen and 431 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: he has earned a spot in this Here's the other 432 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: thing too, and John, it's a factor. He's much less 433 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: expensive and this is a team that has to watch 434 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: every penny heading into next year, and if you have 435 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: the chance to take a young Greg Junior who's playing 436 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: well and have him for the next couple of years 437 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: at a really fixed cost, it's much easier than a 438 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: veteran player who's making over a million in that veteran minimum, 439 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: because every dime is going to count. If you want 440 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: to keep Calvin Ridley, if Josh Allen has a big 441 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: season and you want to find a way to get him, 442 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: you got Tyson Campbell. You've got the quarterback. So that 443 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: factors into this decision at that nickel corner. 444 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 3: I never forget about Walker Little either. I won't so money. Yeah, 445 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: there's no question to me. Greg Junior's on the roster. 446 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: The only question is whether he gets that nickel spot. 447 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: I don't know that it would necessarily be the either 448 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: or scenario in terms of money this year, but I 449 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: think you definitely keep Greg Junior with the idea that 450 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: bare minimum he can be a nickel going forward and 451 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: with Darius Williams next year, can Greg Junior show enough 452 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 3: to eventually be a starting outside corner. I don't know 453 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: that he's done that yet. I asked him after the game. 454 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: You know, I said, you almost got to catch that one, 455 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: right and he he laughed. He said, yeah, if I 456 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: had to dropped that, it would have been bad. Yeah. Yeah, 457 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: film me. But he's he's on the fifty three. There's 458 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: no nack for being around the ball. Uh. Coaches don't 459 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: like to get rid of that neck. 460 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Nope, love to see it. All right, stay with us. 461 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: We've got some piping hot takes coming up after the break. 462 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: See then, move the freight, Move the freight. Magellan Transport 463 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: was voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You can 464 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: apply online at www dot Magellanlogistics dot com. Well, wrapping 465 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: up training camp, wrapping up the preseasons, we got some 466 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: hot takes for you. Why not Ryan? 467 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: You want to start us off for sure? 468 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: Uh, Nathan Rourke might be your three. And I say 469 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: that because everybody is up in arms about this young 470 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 2: kid for some of the dramatic plays that he's made. 471 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: So rather than just throw that take out, I went 472 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: and I talked to some coaches and scouting types while 473 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: we were in Detroit, so most of them Jacksonville people, 474 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: but some Detroit people too, And they point out a 475 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: couple of things that I wanted to share. The first 476 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: is is that in the preseason, this guy said to me, 477 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: just watch preseason game. In the fourth quart of a 478 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: preseason game, if a quarterback has any juice at all, 479 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: and this kid does. Playing behind a line filled with 480 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: guys who are going to be doing something different after 481 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: a final cutdown day, against guys who are rushing the 482 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: passer who are going to be doing different things after 483 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: cutdown day, any quarterback with some juice has the ability 484 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: to make plays. Now, his play in Dallas was legitimately 485 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: a great play, but I watched that very night the 486 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Cleveland game, and there was a quarterback who spun, twisted, 487 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: turn was not three times, got up, avoided the safety, 488 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: and got up the field for what turned out to 489 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: be a six yard game. So you're going to see 490 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: the juice number two. And this was pointed out by 491 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: several people, and that is that you have. Now how 492 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: much have we talked about the value of season two 493 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: in Doug's system for the starter, same thing for CJ. 494 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: Bethord behind him. Now we've got a kid who's been 495 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: here what a little over two months. You're not going 496 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: to turn the reins over to that kid yet, because 497 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: you have a veteran backup who's very good in the room. 498 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm told with Trevor, they're very close. You're not going 499 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: to disrupt that. And the Jaguars, as Doug pointed out 500 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: in his postgame news conference in the night, aren't even 501 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: considering it. It's Bethard's job, that's what they means him. 502 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: And here's the last one, and I thought it was 503 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: valuable John. People have to understand their role, and he 504 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: has to come in here and embrace being the three. 505 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: Not everyone wants to be told they're the three, but 506 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: there's such a learning curve in the NFL that good 507 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: twos are often good threes. They come in and they 508 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: run the scout team, they learn the offense, they pay 509 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: attention in meetings, they watch Trevor Lawrence, who's a legitimate 510 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: elite quarterback in this league, and they grow from that. 511 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: Folks keep in mind, he's coming from Canada and he's 512 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: making an adjustment back to American football where he played 513 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: college football Ohio, and there's a learning curve for everyone. 514 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: He's not ready. He's athletic, he's exciting, he's got juice. 515 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: If he'll embrace his role as the three here, he'll 516 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: have a good chance to be a two at some point. 517 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: In the future, John, is there any chance to carry 518 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks or I. 519 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: Think it's gonna be tough. 520 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, the third quarterback now can be on the practice squad. 521 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know that. Again, going back to 522 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: the thing of people have their own guys, a quarterback, 523 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: particularly at cutdown date, has to really be something some 524 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: for another team to say, Okay, I'm gonna go get that, 525 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: because most teams have the same problem the Jags. Do 526 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: you carry three, you are probably not going to go 527 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: sign or acclaim a wavered player who wasn't the Jaguars 528 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: two to come in and be your two. So now 529 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: you've got to make room on your roster for a 530 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: three that you don't know. I don't know that it's 531 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 3: as much of a given that somebody snatches him up 532 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: as maybe fans think, who are very enamored with the place. 533 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: It's an equity decision for the Jaguars, meaning if you 534 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: keep him, you're keeping him, yes, because you like to 535 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: have him as your backup potentially in a year or two. 536 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: But you also think, well, quarterbacks are worth something in 537 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: trade as well, which can matter. I think's gonna be 538 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: tough for them to keep him as the three. Bottom 539 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: line is he's getting it done on sheer athleticism right. 540 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: He is, He's got juice and he's that's the upside. 541 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: The downside is he needs to now learn the system 542 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: and how this works, and so there is a learning 543 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: curve for him. But there's optimism that if he's willing 544 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: to apply himself and embrace the role of being three, 545 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: that he can be a good two. 546 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: And I know we love these you know, random Underdog, 547 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: you know Gardner Minshee, all those kinds of crazy plays 548 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 1: and stories. But we have Trevor Lawrence. So hopefully no 549 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: one ever touches the field. 550 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: I would hope after this week. And by the way, 551 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting today when Doug was asked, 552 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: we'll see j Becker play most of the second half 553 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: on Saturday against the Dolphins or will you work rourk 554 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: in and he said, yeah, I haven't decided that yet. 555 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: So you know, we may ce CJ. Bethard get the 556 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: entire second half because those reps are going to be 557 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: valuable for him, God willing, he doesn't play much, if 558 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: at all, this year, but those reps are better served 559 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: for your number two than your number three, because your 560 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: three is gonna get a lot of reps on the 561 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: practice feel going forward. 562 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: And remember, I don't know everything that'll go into the decision. 563 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: I don't know every detail of what Doug likes about 564 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: CJ Bethard. But Doug was a backup quarterback for a minute, 565 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: so he knows what he wants from that role, and 566 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: he was a three, and I think he wants to 567 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: trust that role more than anything else. What am I 568 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: going to see when that? You know, I've always said 569 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: the backup quarterback in the NFL, if your starters out 570 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: four weeks and you're a contender, you want that backup 571 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: quarterback to be able to get you five hundred during 572 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: that and keep you alive and trust that it's not 573 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: going to be mistakes, it's not going to be mental stuff. 574 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 3: So I'm sure Doug trusts CJ on that front, or 575 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: CJ wouldn't be here. 576 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: By the way, last thought on this, Doug was not 577 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: just a backup. Doug was a three in Miami, way 578 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: down the depth chart behind Dan Marino, and he was 579 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: released six times before he finally hooked on and became 580 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: the three and then the two. 581 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: Much more common to carry three in Doug's era than. 582 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: Although the practice squad now because of the rules and 583 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: how that's changed, allows. 584 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: You to do that. 585 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: John, I know you went offense for your take as well. 586 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: Well. I went offense, and my take's a little hotter 587 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: than my feeling. 588 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: This is the defense you're going, let's go hot take. 589 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: This is the deepest offense in franchise history. And I 590 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: think particularly at the skill positions. 591 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: Is that Fred Taylor calling you right now? Jimmy Smith 592 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: not best. 593 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: I don't think the running back rooms have necessarily had 594 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: a Deernest Johnson at three at the same time that 595 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: the tight ends went as deep. I feel like the 596 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: offensive line is deep, so this is not as much 597 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: of a given as people think, but I think right 598 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: now it is the deepest. What's impressive about the depth 599 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: in the point I wanted to get to with this take. 600 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: I think Trent Balky and the pro scouting people here 601 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: need some credit if you think about the depth right now. Yes, 602 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: it's coming from the draft, it's also coming from Durnis Johnson, 603 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Ledbetter, Blake Hants, Jacob Harris, guys that have been 604 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: on other. 605 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: Rosters, young players who haven't. 606 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: Well Ledbetter's six. They signed Michael Dogby, who in his 607 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: fourth year. They have really good third and fourth year 608 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: players who have been elsewhere who have a chance to 609 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: either make an impact or I don't know that this 610 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: team has always had that in the past. I think 611 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: there's an element that Trent felt two years ago like 612 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: the roster was so depleted that you couldn't just build 613 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: it through the draft. So they went with I would 614 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: even consider them of these guys third tier free a 615 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: and see. And now they have guys who, you know, 616 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: it's hard to have a young defensive tackle, Raymond Vahassek, 617 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: I'm getting his name right, a rookie, seventh round pick. 618 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: I think will be good. I don't know that he's 619 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: ready right now to be good. So in lieu of that, 620 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: you have Jeremiah Ledbetter, who's a veteran who's good right now. 621 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: Hard for rookies to be really good depth on your 622 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: defensive line. So the Jaguars went out and got somebody 623 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: like Jeremiah Ledbetter who's not a rookie, but he's young, 624 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: he's cap friendly. That's roster building, and that's being ready. 625 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: They've done a good job with this roster I'll argue 626 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: with you. In ninety eight they had Fred Taylor, James Stewart, 627 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: and Tavian Banks. I think the offensive line in ninety 628 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: nine around here was really deep and really good. But 629 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: I think this is the deepest group of wide receivers 630 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: they've ever had, and I think the deepest group of 631 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: tight ends. And that counts. You know, the two thousand 632 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 2: and sixth season when they had Kyle Brady and Marcedes Lewis, right, 633 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: Lewis was a rookie and Brady was you know, in 634 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 2: his last season, was still the blest blocking tight end 635 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: and a good chain moving third down. You can make 636 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: a strong argument that the talent level here in a 637 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: year could easily be right there. 638 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it's a there's such a tendency to 639 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: see the latest thing you saw that's the best, you know. 640 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: So I know there are position groups that have been 641 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: better at times, but overall, I think the depth of 642 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: receiver is what sort of tilts it from me. Yeah, 643 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: it's the best this group at its front line. It 644 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: is not Jimmy Keenan yet, because you got to prove 645 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: that down to five or six. I think it's hard 646 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 3: to find a deeper at any point in franchise. 647 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: There's never been as many wide receivers here. And the 648 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: reason I point out the running backs is I had 649 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: a phone conversation with Tavian Banks last week and he 650 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: was talking about that ninety eight room and as a 651 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: rookie being able to learn from Fred and. 652 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: Fitzkavian could have been really good man. 653 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I was working on a story for the 654 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: Alumni News on that one. It's it's a great story. 655 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: Great to catch up with him. 656 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: All right, you guys, I'm going boiling hot. I didn't 657 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: tell you what my take was yet, so you should 658 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: be pleasantly surprised. I think the Jaguars are going to 659 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: start the season eight. No, and I'm basing that wow 660 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: off of looking at the schedule. Obviously, Kansas City is 661 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna be the first one we talk about. 662 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a franchise best. They've never started eight. 663 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: No, you know what, let's do this. We're going all 664 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: int I'm pushing all the chips in where they ever 665 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: started six? And oh they had no interesting five? And 666 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: oh is the best? All right? So hear me out 667 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: coming from New England, I do not think it can 668 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: be underestimated coming to Florida and playing in September because 669 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: it affects people. I always believe that, and I always 670 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: will believe that, having seen Tom Brady never be able 671 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: to beat Miami in September games, it was his bugaboo. 672 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: I believe that. 673 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: I know Patrick Mahomes can do crazy things, but also 674 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: there's something else there we need to Chris Jones is 675 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: not reported to their training camp yet. We don't know 676 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: if that's going to be figured out before the beginning 677 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: of the season or not. He seems to be really 678 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: have dug his heels in on that, and you know, 679 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: if you were losing the leading sack leader in the NFL, 680 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: that's going to affect your defense. So that's my biggest 681 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: bugaboo for them. After that, I think having two weeks 682 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: in England will benefit them more than their opponents, and 683 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: then I think they'll go into the bye week un 684 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: defeated at this point other than Kansas City, do you 685 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: think there's any other games that you've looked at that 686 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: are big for them in the first half of the season. 687 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Buffalo is big. 688 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, at Tottenham at Tottenham, not in Buffalo in December. 689 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: That's a huge out for them to go to Buffalo. 690 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: I think if they do what you said, then I 691 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: think they're going to super Bowl. Because if to me, 692 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: if you're eight to no against this schedule, you this. 693 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: Ain't no get into the bye week's your by week. 694 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: I think San Francisco's the first loss. That's the first 695 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: game the bye week, and then they But I don't 696 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: know if it does mean super Bowl because if you 697 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: have then you come back. So the second half is 698 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: really Obviously Kansas City is a huge game, but the 699 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: second half is what I'm looking at is you've got 700 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, You've got the Bengals on Monday Night Football, 701 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: you have Baltimore on Sunday Night Football, and then you 702 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: get some of those weird bugaboo games, like they're playing 703 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Carolina at home at Houston around Thanksgiving, and then Tennessee's 704 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: the last game of the season. 705 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: So but if you're eight and oh, you're really really good, 706 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: and you've got all of a sudden, you've broken Kansas 707 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: City's sir, you have tie breakers against Kansas City and Buffalo, 708 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: you're awfully hard to catch. If you're eight and oh 709 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 3: and you've beaten two of the other good conference teams, 710 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm I'm not gonna have that hot to take you. 711 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: It's got to come in visualize. 712 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: So eight they started five and oh, and what did 713 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: they finish? They finished eleven and five okay, and then 714 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: they lost in the second round of the playoffs in 715 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: New York. That was the Jets team led by Keishawn 716 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: Johnson and Curtis Martin that went on. No Churs Martin 717 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: wasn't there that year with the Testaverity year. Yeah, it 718 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: was Testaverty and and they went to the AFC title 719 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 2: game and got beat that year by the Denver Broncos. 720 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 2: And I'm just then, now, here's here's the best starting 721 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: franchise history. Ready, eleven, thirteen and one And that was 722 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: that was ninety nine when they lost in Week three 723 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: to the Titans and then had an eleven game winning streak. 724 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: So eleven and one is the best start. Five and 725 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: oh is the best undefeated start. So I mean, you're 726 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: can be done. More power to you, you guys, more power. 727 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: Well let's go, let's go. 728 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's John's not on board yet. I mean I 729 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: came eight no, because eight no is really really hard. 730 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 3: And if you're starting eight and eight no this roster, 731 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: you're elite. You're ready to join the big boys. You're 732 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: one of the four and uh, then you're flipping a 733 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: coin in the playoffs. 734 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 2: Whether you beat one of the elites, it means also 735 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: that you win on Thursday night in New Orleans. And 736 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 2: I know this is not that you're. 737 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: That's my other second game I look at. It's that 738 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: Thursday night game is always tricky, especially on the road. 739 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: And then Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh Jaguars have had good success 740 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: there in recent years. That's also gonna be good. 741 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, be fun. 742 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: We'll look more at the schedule a little bit later 743 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: on once we get through this last preseason game, but 744 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: coming up, we'll talk to you guys about what we 745 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: got going on this week. So stay with us Jags fans. 746 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: If you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home, checkout 747 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: zipchair dot com to browse all customizable options. Zip Chair 748 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: is furniture for fans. So we have one more week 749 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: of practice before preseason game three midday and late day practice, 750 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: so they're getting out there in the sun, getting used 751 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: to the weather, and we're just trying to make sure 752 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: everybody stays healthy at this point, at least. 753 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: In my big deal. Yeah, yeah, one o'clock games here 754 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: in Week two against Kansas City and week three against Houston, 755 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 2: so you better be ready for those days too. 756 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: Well. 757 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 3: It's interesting. This is sort of why though, I think 758 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 3: coaches like the idea of this sort of final bye 759 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: of the preseason because it gives you a chance to manage. Yes, 760 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: the Jaguars are beat up, but there's also what twenty 761 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: days until till the game, first game, the opener. Well, 762 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 3: if you were at week four and told hey, you're 763 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 3: beat up, but you've got two bye weeks come up, 764 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: you know the rest these guys, he'll be okay. Well 765 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: we can we can manage that. So I think they're 766 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 3: okay as long as they manage this and as long 767 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: as nothing happens Sunday or Saturday where you think, oh, 768 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 3: there's another. 769 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: One, right. 770 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: And Doug said this morning that he's not going to 771 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 2: coach fearful of injuries. It's football. It's a dangerous game. 772 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: Because he can't do that good guys get hurt. He's 773 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: going to go out there coach. He's got a certain 774 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: agenda plan for these guys, and he'll get that done. 775 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: And if a guy gets hurt, a guy gets hurt, 776 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: he's not gonna coach scared. 777 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: Last bottom line is as long as the quarterback's up right. 778 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and last we heard, starters are going to 779 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: go the whole first half against Miami, so we'll see 780 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: a lot of what maybe this team can kind of 781 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: put together in that time. Give him a little time 782 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: to work the offense, and we'll see what they got 783 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: out there. Thanks everyone for joining us. We'll come back 784 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: with you on Wednesday for jag Zam and give you 785 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: the latest on everything going down.