Speaker 1: While we wait for Andrew Vaughn in a couple of minutes,
Speaker 1: let's show I think a former KP team.
Speaker 2: Did you spend a minute with Syracuse with the Chiefs?
Speaker 3: No, I played in Syracuse. I was never on the
Speaker 3: Syracuse Mets, but I did play in Syracuse.
Speaker 2: And I just called him the Chiefs Syracuse.
Speaker 4: I was a Syracuse Met for a second. You're in
Speaker 4: my career.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Well they.
Speaker 1: Don't like the name anymore. Okay, well, they don't like
Speaker 1: the name. They want to rename it. So they're doing
Speaker 1: a community contest and they want help. Anyone have any ideas.
Speaker 1: They did this with Binghamton and turned into the Rumble Ponies,
Speaker 1: which is an A plus name.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've really you know what, I totally dropped the
Speaker 6: ball on this one.
Speaker 4: All I remember. It was never really any fans there.
Speaker 4: It was always really quiet. I don't know, just the
Speaker 4: Syracuse soundless fans. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was about whenever I've gone up there, it's negative
Speaker 1: ten degrees and snowing eight feet.
Speaker 4: There you go. I'm down with that.
Speaker 3: I see a potential partnership here. When I think Syracuse,
Speaker 3: New York, I think Dinosaur barbecues. So how about the
Speaker 3: Syracuse Dinosaurs.
Speaker 4: There you go? Cool mask impossible?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4: You could definitely have a fire mascot running around there.
Speaker 4: There you go. That would be hey, you know who?
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 6: You probably have a lot more families coming out, right,
Speaker 6: kids coming out. They would enjoy that, so and that's
Speaker 6: what they need. I just remember not a lot of fans. So, hey,
Speaker 6: the Syracuse Dino's. I like that, right, you.
Speaker 3: Can go to end up with a name like the
Speaker 3: Rumble Ponies, Like did they just like everyone submitted their
Speaker 3: name and then they pulled them out of a hat
Speaker 3: and they're like, okay, let's vote, And someone just creatively
Speaker 3: was like, hey, Rumble Ponies, that sounds great.
Speaker 1: There's maybe there's some story to it that we don't
Speaker 1: know because we didn't look it up.
Speaker 2: But I like dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: I mean you could do like a badass version of
Speaker 1: Barney and bring him out there, more of a devilish Barney.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, you know, I don't know if you go,
Speaker 6: I don't know if you remember Barney Scotty, but you
Speaker 6: do you remember bj I think.
Speaker 4: It was it was like the Yellow Dinosaur. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to remember because.
Speaker 6: I think like the Rockies kind of they don't they
Speaker 6: have a mascot that kind of looks like Barney a
Speaker 6: little bit. So let's go like with BJ and go
Speaker 6: with the yellow he had, like the cool sneakers, like
Speaker 6: that was my favorite, you know character off the Barney
Speaker 6: episodes was was that was that dinosaur character. So I
Speaker 6: think we could switch it up, maybe some yellow and
Speaker 6: something in there.
Speaker 2: Orange orange fire.
Speaker 1: All right, FT is back on TV's Across the Nation
Speaker 1: and Kevin Plar is going to welcome in his former
Speaker 1: teammate KP.
Speaker 2: You want to do the intro?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'll do a brief intro. I mean,
Speaker 3: former team of mine.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It was short lived, but very obviously very impactful. We
Speaker 3: played together in spring Train. I was with the White
Speaker 3: Sox for one month, but got to know Andrew Vaughn,
Speaker 3: got to know his wife, was just a great teammate.
Speaker 3: And obviously we're very happy to have you on the
Speaker 3: show now, Milwaukee Brewer. Uh, kind of We're obviously going
Speaker 3: to touch on, you know, going from last to first,
Speaker 3: but how you doing doing good?
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, definitely a world win of a
Speaker 7: year for me, to say the least.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I want to stay awake a little bit
Speaker 3: from the obvious, because I know Cam wants to kind
Speaker 3: of touch on, you know, culture of you know obviously
Speaker 3: going from the White Sox to the Brewers, but I
Speaker 3: kind of just wanted to talk about a little bit
Speaker 3: about your journey. You know, everyone's path and the big
Speaker 3: leagues is a little bit different. Yours is much different
Speaker 3: than mine. I was a guy who's kind of up
Speaker 3: and down in the minor leagues, big leagues, Triple A,
Speaker 3: and then I finally got my opportunity. You got your opportunity,
Speaker 3: you made the most of it, you played really well,
Speaker 3: and then you struggled a little bit and you got
Speaker 3: sent down a Triple A. Was that a little bit
Speaker 3: of a wake up call for you? I know, as
Speaker 3: a player, you always know that that's a reality, but
Speaker 3: someone like you that for the most part was kind
Speaker 3: of smooth sailing. You know, you kind of forget that
Speaker 3: that's a reality, and then one day you just find
Speaker 3: out you're going to Triple A. Was that just kind
Speaker 3: of a little bit of a wake up call for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it was definitely tough.
Speaker 7: I mean, first two months of the season didn't go
Speaker 7: anywhere I wanted to, you know, the goals to go
Speaker 7: out there and help your team win, and you know,
Speaker 7: it felt like I wasn't able to do that.
Speaker 5: You know, I was taking my best at Batch. You know,
Speaker 5: I always put.
Speaker 7: It all on the line, no matter what, just not
Speaker 7: to see the results you know it's done, you know,
Speaker 7: getting the triple A. I think the biggest goal was
Speaker 7: just just get right, you know, get myself back.
Speaker 5: To what I do in the box.
Speaker 7: And you know I kind of I kind of felt
Speaker 7: like I was moving that way, you know, and then
Speaker 7: the trade happened.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, Andrew, I want to I want to piggyback
Speaker 6: off of that man, because I think that was a
Speaker 6: great setup for my question because most of us, you know,
Speaker 6: baseball players, we don't lose a lot coming through the rings,
Speaker 6: right the first time we really you know, get that
Speaker 6: taste of losing is in professional baseball, right, And I
Speaker 6: just want to ask you, like, was there any pressure,
Speaker 6: you know, you coming up to the White Sox as
Speaker 6: highly talent, as highly talent as you were, was there
Speaker 6: just you know, did you put add a pressure on yourself,
Speaker 6: like trying to do everything and trying to, you know,
Speaker 6: be the guy that creates that spark or whatever the
Speaker 6: White Sox was looking for. Was that a part of
Speaker 6: kind of the struggles that you went through after when
Speaker 6: you first came up and we saw just how special
Speaker 6: player you were.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think a little bit. You know, it's definitely
Speaker 7: tough losing. Nobody wants to do that. That's you know,
Speaker 7: the worst thing in baseball. So I mean me personally,
Speaker 7: I was trying to go out there and do everything
Speaker 7: I could, you know, worked my butt off, you know,
Speaker 7: went out there and was trying my best, and just
Speaker 7: you know, it didn't work out the best. And yeah,
Speaker 7: you know I came up pretty quick. You know, not
Speaker 7: much minor league time. COVID happened. COVID kind of did
Speaker 7: everything crazy to everybody, you know, But I got the
Speaker 7: opportunity and you know, wanted to take full advantage of it.
Speaker 4: One quick fall on that too.
Speaker 6: You had a brief stint with and when we gonna
Speaker 6: get to the fun stuff and the happy stuff, because
Speaker 6: I'm so happy for you to be able to play
Speaker 6: a winning Brandon baseball because what KP was talking about,
Speaker 6: you know, I mentioned earlier, people don't realize.
Speaker 4: That, you know, bad baseball can be contagious, you know.
Speaker 6: You know, even some of my you know, good years,
Speaker 6: it was a struggle on bad teams. You know, I
Speaker 6: thought I had a good year and they hit like
Speaker 6: two sixty and it was like, well, that was a.
Speaker 4: Good year on the struggling team.
Speaker 6: Can you talk about just on your way out, because
Speaker 6: I think he's done a great job.
Speaker 4: Will Venable just a little bit on maybe.
Speaker 6: The culture change he was my ex teammate. Can you
Speaker 6: just touch on him a little bit before we talk
Speaker 6: about the Brewers and and the kind of leader that
Speaker 6: he's shown to be earlier early in his teen yere
Speaker 6: as a White Sox manager.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, his knowledge of the game is I mean,
Speaker 5: you've seen it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: He was also under Boti, who's you know, one of
Speaker 7: the greatest managers to exist. And I think he just
Speaker 7: brought the right energy. You know, he had the right
Speaker 7: mindset and you know, got the guys together. And you know,
Speaker 7: short lived that was with him, unfortunately, but you know,
Speaker 7: he was great.
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Speaker 5: He's a stud, he's not going down.
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Speaker 1: fo U l Andrew. You know, I try and figure
Speaker 1: out Hey, are there any changes?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And a lot of fans do too. So when you
Speaker 1: go over to Milwaukee, you know, I'm looking at scattering reports.
Speaker 1: Did you move a little bit closer to the plate,
Speaker 1: and do you have a conversation with the coaching staff
Speaker 1: about you know, the way you've made contact right?
Speaker 2: You've always hit the ball hard.
Speaker 1: We talked about this for a while, right, and a
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, you go opposite field seeing
Speaker 1: you pull the ball a little more right now, so
Speaker 1: you can describe it much better than I can take
Speaker 1: us through what you're actually seeing from either a stance
Speaker 1: and approach perspective, and then also the way the ball's
Speaker 1: coming off the bat for you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't really think about the stance stuff very much.
Speaker 7: You know, kind of went over some film with the
Speaker 7: hitting coaches in Nashville, and you know, there was some
Speaker 7: some minor tweaks you looked at when I was going
Speaker 7: good and me compared to you know, maybe some rollovers,
Speaker 7: some ground balls orre not going so good, you know,
Speaker 7: and there was something that stood out and just you know,
Speaker 7: worked on those in the cage, and you know, I think.
Speaker 5: That's you know, helped my approach big time.
Speaker 4: Hey, now we got to ask about Pat Murphy.
Speaker 6: I've been fortunate enough to be around a lot of guys, right,
Speaker 6: talk about a great leader, man, great energy.
Speaker 4: One. Does he know your real name.
Speaker 6: Or did he just immediately give you a nickname? And
Speaker 6: what's the nickname? Because everybody he gives everybody nickname? What's
Speaker 6: your nickname? Thus far, this early and.
Speaker 5: With the Brewers, I ain't kind of nickname yet.
Speaker 4: He ain't given you a nickname yet.
Speaker 5: Bro, I didn't get a nickname. I'm gonna say it's
Speaker 5: not a nickname.
Speaker 7: But you know, I was going up there, and you know,
Speaker 7: first couple of bats, I think, I think I hit
Speaker 7: a rollover, got jam broke my bat. And he just
Speaker 7: looked at me and goes, hey, man, just play like
Speaker 7: a Neanderthal up there, don't think, don't have any knowledge.
Speaker 5: Just play.
Speaker 1: And I was like, huh, I think Pat's calling. When
Speaker 1: you're raking, you get phone calls. That's what happened. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: come back, I think he's back. Yeah, Andrew, go ahead.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry about that. Grandpa called me. I'll call him back.
Speaker 2: You're good, You're good.
Speaker 1: So he said hit like in Neanderthal, which actually leads
Speaker 1: to what I wanted to ask you about. So I
Speaker 1: saw today they announced that they're going to give out
Speaker 1: King Bond shirts on August twenty sixth.
Speaker 5: Did you see this?
Speaker 2: Is this right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Adam?
Speaker 1: So, Adam mccalvy covers the team. I'm sure you've met
Speaker 1: him there. He covers the Brewers for MLB. He said,
Speaker 1: how hot is Andrew baughd? The Brewers are adding a
Speaker 1: T shirt to the giveaway schedule on August twenty six
Speaker 1: against the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 2: So then we're breaking this to you. What do you
Speaker 2: think now? Might call you King?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, what do you got on the te man?
Speaker 5: It's exciting.
Speaker 7: I mean just the energy in the clubhouse, the guys,
Speaker 7: everybody's together, you know, staff included, and just playing really
Speaker 7: good baseball. I mean that's kind of what brings everybody together.
Speaker 7: I mean, do an anyone can to win? I mean
Speaker 7: you see how I'm newer to the team, but the
Speaker 7: team runs, the face, just plays defense, pitches.
Speaker 5: I mean it's just incredible.
Speaker 3: Hey, I got to ask you some questions about things
Speaker 3: that you really really care about, things that you really love.
Speaker 3: I know you're new to Milwaukee. You find a good
Speaker 3: fishing spot.
Speaker 7: Yet at five o'clock. I'm going my first time. So
Speaker 7: we'll see.
Speaker 3: You can get it from anyone else, or you know,
Speaker 3: you go to one of those like chat rooms or
Speaker 3: like blogs Milwaukee fishing spots, or you know, someone on
Speaker 3: the team kind of give you a little secret fishing
Speaker 3: spot in Milwaukee.
Speaker 5: Yeah, d'e hall on the plane yesterday, it's like, hey,
Speaker 5: you want to go fish in the morning.
Speaker 7: I was like, uh, you know, we land at one
Speaker 7: o'clock and he was like, no, We're gonna go in
Speaker 7: the afternoon.
Speaker 5: And I was like, all right, I'm in.
Speaker 3: He's there, you're there, and I'm there.
Speaker 5: I'm going fishing.
Speaker 6: Hey, I want to ask you speak okay, fishing, right,
Speaker 6: that's something you love to do, That's something you would
Speaker 6: you you you know you enjoy doing. Is there any
Speaker 6: possible chance that you're gonna send Sabali a Christmas gift,
Speaker 6: maybe some fishing rides or something, because he's the one
Speaker 6: who want, you.
Speaker 4: Know, requested to trade and here we are now you
Speaker 4: you're playing winning baseball and playing with the guy.
Speaker 6: You know, a group of guys who really love playing
Speaker 6: for each other.
Speaker 4: Do you have any plans on senning air Sabali.
Speaker 6: Maybe a Christmas gift to get you at Chicago and
Speaker 6: over to Milwaukee.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
Speaker 5: I mean that trade was crazy.
Speaker 7: I mean I saw it happened, and then you know,
Speaker 7: the next morning, I got a phone call and I
Speaker 7: was like, oh, I'm getting traded today.
Speaker 5: You never think it's going to happen to you. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's part of the game.
Speaker 7: But it happened, and you know all these things, is
Speaker 7: what I said.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker 4: I love it. I just want to ask one more.
Speaker 6: I want to ask one more seriously, because you you know,
Speaker 6: you went through some ups and downs and a lot
Speaker 6: of scrutiny. Seriously, how much fun is it waking up
Speaker 6: every day and driving to a ballpark knowing that you're
Speaker 6: going to play some meaning for baseball down the STRETCHS Like,
Speaker 6: how much fun is.
Speaker 4: That for you?
Speaker 7: I mean it's so exciting. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 7: wake up, you got that little bit extra energy, just
Speaker 7: ready to get there. I mean the clubhouse open at
Speaker 7: twelve thirty, I bet every guy's in there.
Speaker 5: Then you know, it's just a special feeling.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: Hey, I wanted to ask you off of the SIVALI question.
Speaker 1: And first of all, he pitched money on the weekend
Speaker 1: for the White Sox, so that's working out for them too.
Speaker 1: But do you look back, like how crazy it is
Speaker 1: that so many events need to lead up to this
Speaker 1: moment where now you're in the thick of a playoff
Speaker 1: race with the team that's got the best record in baseball, right,
Speaker 1: because it basically came from the Brewers having starting pitching depth. Right,
Speaker 1: they have too many good starters, which is probably one
Speaker 1: of two or three teams in all of baseball that
Speaker 1: have that problem.
Speaker 2: The rest of them are desperately looking for them.
Speaker 1: That turns into a starter wanting a starting spot, that
Speaker 1: turns into him going to the White Sox and you
Speaker 1: ending up here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, definitely crazy. Like I said, it's been
Speaker 7: a world win. You know, get sent a triple A Charlotte,
Speaker 7: end up getting traded, get sent to Nashville, you know,
Speaker 7: unfortunately to reach but you know, got my opportunity and
Speaker 7: my biggest fote was just get here and help the
Speaker 7: team win. They were already rolling. So it's like I
Speaker 7: just want to plug in and do what I can.
Speaker 1: One more for me, Andrew, do you notice anything different
Speaker 1: or unique about the way that the Brewers organization runs.
Speaker 1: I know you've been there quick, right, But a lot
Speaker 1: of our guys, and I'm the only non player, most
Speaker 1: of the guys on this show play the game for
Speaker 1: a long time. They'll tell me how they see something different.
Speaker 1: Cam can speak to this too. The Brewers are playing
Speaker 1: a style of baseball that's very different from many other
Speaker 1: teams in the game. It's not all exit velocity of session.
Speaker 1: Obviously stuff to be a big leaguer, but we're seeing
Speaker 1: things that, actually, I can comment from a fan perspective,
Speaker 1: are generally more fun to watch. So it's clean defense,
Speaker 1: it's good base running. What have you noticed, Like, how
Speaker 1: do you get a team to play like that? Of
Speaker 1: course you need the personnel, but how do you get
Speaker 1: a team to play that way?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think it's just everybody buying in, you know, that's
Speaker 7: the biggest thing.
Speaker 5: Guys just putting.
Speaker 7: It out on the line, just doing any during that
Speaker 7: game to win, whether it's a bond, whether it's a
Speaker 7: hit and run, you know, making a good play, just
Speaker 7: all aspects of the game.
Speaker 5: And I feel like everybody here bought into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna touch on something kind of off topic,
Speaker 3: here that maybe a lot of people don't understand. You know,
Speaker 3: I was traded a couple of times in my career.
Speaker 3: It's very difficult the first time. It gets a little
Speaker 3: bit easier the second time. But for us, it's just
Speaker 3: playing baseball. But behind every player is a great wife. Lexie,
Speaker 3: your wife. How is she making the adjustment to Milwaukee?
Speaker 3: I know, you guys had a you know, a big
Speaker 3: footprint in the city of Chicago. You guys did a
Speaker 3: lot of things, charitable things off the field. How is
Speaker 3: she settling into a new town.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's been a world win for both
Speaker 7: of us. You know, she's loving it. She's excited. She's
Speaker 7: meeting all the wives and you know, getting connected, because
Speaker 7: that's a big part of it too. I mean there
Speaker 7: are families, but you know, our goal is we have
Speaker 7: to go play baseball. But what goes on behind the scenes,
Speaker 7: Like she's finding us a place to live, moving furnit sure,
Speaker 7: shipping cars, doing all this stuff, and it's I mean,
Speaker 7: we can't do it without them.
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys can attest to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: Shout out to all the wives out there who, like
Speaker 6: you said, people don't know what they really do.
Speaker 4: They really become our personal assistants at time. They really do.
Speaker 4: And I sacrifice so much.
Speaker 6: I don't want to keep it on the high note
Speaker 6: because just like KP, I was traded quite a few times. Uh,
Speaker 6: And you're always trying to you know, you know, buy
Speaker 6: into the new culture and fit in.
Speaker 4: Who's been the guy? Early on you said you're going
Speaker 4: fishing today? A five? Like, who's been the guy.
Speaker 6: That you connected with pretty quickly in that clubhouse that
Speaker 6: you're like, Okay, this is you know, I'm bobbing with everybody,
Speaker 6: but like, this is my guy.
Speaker 4: Who's who's welcoming you with open arms? And who you
Speaker 4: really vibbing with right now?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think the only guy I knew off playing baseball
Speaker 7: was I met Terrang a few years ago. You know,
Speaker 7: he got a brand new puppy and it was a
Speaker 7: great day. Brought it over to my house in Arizona
Speaker 7: when I used to live there, and just kind of
Speaker 7: had that little connection, you know, went and talked to him,
Speaker 7: asked him some questions like what do we do here?
Speaker 5: What we got?
Speaker 7: You know, gravitated towards him. But I mean the whole group, man,
Speaker 7: they just woke me with open arms.
Speaker 5: It was awesome.
Speaker 4: Hey, real quick the off of that, real quick? What
Speaker 4: did he tell you?
Speaker 6: Because I remember getting going to the Astros and I
Speaker 6: kind of the same thing. I asked George Springer. I'm like, hey, like,
Speaker 6: you know, I was a big workout guy, and I'm
Speaker 6: you know, I go in the weight room and like
Speaker 6: nobody's going really in the weight room, And I asked
Speaker 6: George Springer, I'm like, hey, like, what what do we
Speaker 6: do here?
Speaker 4: Like what's the like, what's the flow?
Speaker 6: He just goes hit or get left behind, dude, Like,
Speaker 6: we don't really overthink anything.
Speaker 4: We just played baseball.
Speaker 6: Like what did he give you on the Brewers when
Speaker 6: you ask like, hey, what what to expect?
Speaker 7: Be ready at seven? I mean, that's that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 7: I feel like, that's that's.
Speaker 5: The most important thing.
Speaker 7: Not going out checking boxes, just getting in there as
Speaker 7: soon as the lights come on, just play ball.
Speaker 4: Play like in the end of the all.
Speaker 2: I like that line a lot.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 2: That's good. They might have to give you another T
Speaker 2: shirt in September with that one on it.
Speaker 3: Keep breaking breaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stuff, man, thanks for joining us. Have an awesome
Speaker 1: day off. Hanging out later there on the trip.
Speaker 4: With the l Make sure you post whatever you cant.
Speaker 4: We need to see it man, or see the KP.
Speaker 4: He'll post it.
Speaker 3: Hey, he's a master. He's a master. I know he's not.
Speaker 3: He's not getting shut out. I've been getting shut out
Speaker 3: every day. I stink it fishing.
Speaker 5: Need some lessons. I'll come show you something.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, private tutor. You got to hire him in the
Speaker 2: off season. Andrew, thank you. Appreciate you. Keep crushing it man.
Speaker 5: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.