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Speaker 2: Here we go one hand to catch at a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, how's that film? Here's Craiggriolou, Paul Calvic and

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Speaker 1: thirteen year NFL veteran Drew Stanton.

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Speaker 3: Team minus two hours and counting today, gentlemen, is today

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Speaker 3: teams must reduce their rosters to fifty three players and

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Speaker 3: that must be done by one pm. Cardinals, though typically

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Speaker 3: announced their moves late in the day, although already some

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Speaker 3: names have been reported via social media as the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: make their way from ninety one to fifty three. Remember

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Speaker 3: they had that roster exemption with Bornhard Psychowitz. But I

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Speaker 3: digress here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report drew a

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Speaker 3: big picture for me this day over your career, is

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Speaker 3: it one where you try to stay away, hope that

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Speaker 3: phone never rings, no text messages, and you just kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard, just because there's so many guys that

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Speaker 4: in that carousel, you get thrown into that washing machine.

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Speaker 4: It's hard, especially the position that I played. And so

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Speaker 4: from personal experience, I got a call the day before

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Speaker 4: final cuts from Scotland Ahan when I was in Detroit,

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Speaker 4: and he said, hey, we might only keep two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: And they already had Matthew Stafford that drafted number one overall,

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Speaker 4: and they had Sean Hill that they had just brought

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Speaker 4: hand system. I went through all of training camp not

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Speaker 4: thinking that that was a possibility to be in a

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Speaker 4: going to be evaluating who else is getting released or

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Speaker 4: we know we're going to release this guy, maybe we

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Speaker 4: still a lot of things that are unsettled here in

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Speaker 4: this building that need to get rectified as far as

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Speaker 4: but nothing is set in stone until you get to

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Speaker 4: and then you can kind of exhale.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even after one PM passes, there's waiver claims and

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Speaker 3: if Cardinals claim a player, well that means they have

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Speaker 3: Right now everything is in a state of flux, even

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Speaker 5: Just some of the ups and downs, the highs and

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Speaker 5: we had a nickname in the booth, the Zach Attack.

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Speaker 5: But wow, where did this guy come from? And then

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Speaker 5: moments ago his agent tweets up he's been released by

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Speaker 5: among the thousand players getting released. Is anyone gonna pick

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Speaker 3: Let's go over what we do know, and that centers

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Speaker 3: around the quarterback position. Head coach Jonathan Gannon on Monday

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that's unfortunate. Part of this business is

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Speaker 4: it's just hard because again we have grown accustomed to

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Speaker 4: it's difficult. That's part of the ugliness of this business.

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Speaker 4: But you all also realize when you sign up to

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Speaker 4: you have to see both sides. You have to accept

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Speaker 4: So when they give you your slip to head out the door,

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Speaker 4: he's still got guaranteed money. That's why every player fights

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Speaker 4: Colt wasn't a part of their plans. As soon as

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Speaker 3: Let's hear from head coach Jonathan Gannon on the decision

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Speaker 6: Just like with every decision, we look at the full

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Speaker 3: And the full body of work. Paul, We've been watching.

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Speaker 3: You've actually seen every single Cardinals practice going to Minnesota

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Speaker 3: last week, and Colt has been fine, but he hasn't,

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Speaker 3: else coming in and being QB one week one in

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Speaker 3: Kyler's absence, and by all accounts, it was not a

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Speaker 3: coaching staff had probably already made up their minds.

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Speaker 5: I'm convinced that by the time the second joint practice ended,

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Speaker 5: had to make a move, and they did. Three four

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Speaker 5: hours later, they swung the deal for Josh Dobbs. It's

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Speaker 5: a production based business. They didn't see enough production out

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Speaker 5: he was some of the stuff you saw out there,

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Speaker 5: complete absence of a downfield passing attack. And what was

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Speaker 5: really striking was from series to series, snap to snap,

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Speaker 5: Cole McCoy and Clayton Toon were alternating, and as the

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Speaker 5: finding players downfield. Now he had his rookie moments, justly

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Speaker 5: but he would rebound and you would see the mobility,

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Speaker 5: of receivers downfield. For whatever reason, a lot of what

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Speaker 3: The timing in all of this, Drew, though, is surprising

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Speaker 3: regular season opener and there is a possibility, a very

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Speaker 3: strong possibility, that you will start a quarterback who has

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, this didn't happen just over last week. I think

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Speaker 4: this has been in the works for a while, right,

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Speaker 4: This is something that you know, you have to be

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Speaker 4: laying the groundwork for this and saying, Okay, who is

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Speaker 4: with and you connect those dots. Because Drew Petsing was

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Speaker 4: you don't have to deviate too far from the norm

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Speaker 4: but it just there's too much and it happened too quickly,

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Speaker 4: but it's going to be Josh Dobbs.

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Speaker 5: Look, maybe it was just the availability of Josh Doobbs.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it was just the fact that Dorian Thompson Robinson

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Speaker 5: Dobbs is named number two quarterback right and then three

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Speaker 5: four hours later he was dealt that same day. But

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Speaker 5: that might have been gainsmanship by the Cleveland Browns front office.

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Speaker 5: They knew what they had in the UCLA rookie and

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Speaker 5: at that point they were willing to pull the trigger

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Speaker 5: on a trade that maybe De Dreu's point have been

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Speaker 3: Dobbs acquired from the Browns along with a seventh round

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals giving up a fifth round pick for Josh Dobbs.

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Speaker 3: Here's Gannon on what Dobbs offers the Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's a mobile guy that understands assist somebody.

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Speaker 6: He's a mobile guy that can make throws and play

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Speaker 6: that's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 3: The mobility, I think is key in that answer, because yes,

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Speaker 3: Of course, when you talk about experience, Paul Dobbs eight

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Speaker 5: But it's not like he's coming off the couch either.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't played a lot of football, He's practiced a lot

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Speaker 5: Third down and eight at the Vikings twenty six, exactly

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Speaker 3: made plays. He has good size right now, though at

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Speaker 3: least according to Gan in concussion protocol, after that hit

436
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Speaker 3: that he took Saturday in Minnesota, so don't quite know

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Speaker 3: his status moving forward. And then the offensive line Paul

438
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Speaker 3: that we know who the top five are, we know

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Speaker 3: who your swing tackle is going to be. But then

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Speaker 3: the news that John Gaines hurt his knee Saturday, Dennis

441
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Speaker 3: Daily hurt his ankle on Saturday. Pat Elfline is on

442
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Speaker 3: injured reserve. His season is done with the Arizona Cardinals

443
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Speaker 3: before it even begins. There's some movement there as far

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Speaker 3: as your backups and guys who you want active on

445
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Speaker 3: game day, you have your.

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Speaker 5: Starting five on the O line. Calvin beechm would be six.

447
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna surmise Marquise Hayes could be seven, especially now

448
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Speaker 5: with the injuries to John Gaines Dennis Daily. Not exactly

449
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Speaker 5: sure how severe those are, but that is fluid. There's

450
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Speaker 5: no doubt about it. If another experienced veteran comes available

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Speaker 5: via waivers, especially a guy with positional flexibility and someone

452
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Speaker 5: who's played a little bit of center, then that's gonna

453
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Speaker 5: be very inviting for many asin Ford to go ahead

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Speaker 5: and claim that player Lucida Smith reportedly released by the team,

455
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Speaker 5: someone who saw some time at center against that Vikings

456
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Speaker 5: team in the preseason finale. Because right now you've got

457
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Speaker 5: yelled to Froholtz and then who exactly Allertson is the

458
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Speaker 5: one who has experience at the center position, at least

459
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Speaker 5: in the preseason, but I think this team is going

460
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Speaker 5: to claim maybe one or two different offensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: Drew I could see them trading right. Usually when that's

462
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Speaker 4: the case is you've got a couple guys that you've

463
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Speaker 4: identified that you want to go after, and you swap

464
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Speaker 4: seventh round picks or you do something to kind of

465
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Speaker 4: unload them and help get them there, But you prioritize

466
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Speaker 4: them a little bit more than waiting to see who's

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Speaker 4: going to hit the waiver wire. So I've been on

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Speaker 4: teams that have done that before. Or you wait for

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Speaker 4: a guy to hit the waiver wire, that's usually one

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Speaker 4: position that there's a lot of carryover and crossover as

471
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Speaker 4: far as burbage is concerned. There's only so much you

472
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Speaker 4: need to learn and you can have and be ready

473
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Speaker 4: and kind of brought along slowly because you're not going

474
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Speaker 4: to be relied upon to be a starter. If you're

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Speaker 4: brought in off of waivers as an offensive lineman, it's

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Speaker 4: kind of a trial run to say, okay, can we

477
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Speaker 4: bring you along. Can you understand what we're going.

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Speaker 2: To do here?

479
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Speaker 4: Teach you our code words, teach you our scheme of

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Speaker 4: what we're going to do, and fit that mold. And

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Speaker 4: there's plenty of teams in the NFL that are running

482
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Speaker 4: this style of offense. You look at Cleveland, you look

483
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Speaker 4: at you know, Minnesota, you think about the Rams, you

484
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Speaker 4: think about San Francisco, there's going to be enough guys available.

485
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Speaker 4: But to Paul's point, you need a backup center depending

486
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Speaker 4: on what the situation is there with injuries. You need

487
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Speaker 4: a guy that can snap the ball, because, as we've

488
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Speaker 4: seen in the past two when you don't have that solidified,

489
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Speaker 4: that can be very unsettling and that can throw a

490
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Speaker 4: wrench in everything.

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Speaker 3: The big thing here though, with these moves and who

492
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Speaker 3: gets way versus who gets released. If you are a

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Speaker 3: veteran of four or more seasons, you get released and

494
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Speaker 3: you're able to sign with anyone immediately four years or

495
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Speaker 3: fewer than four years. Paul, you're subject to that waiver

496
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Speaker 3: wire and you have no choice. If you're acclaimed, you're

497
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Speaker 3: going to that team. And you know what, if you

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Speaker 3: make this team and you're a young guy, hold on

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Speaker 3: to yourself. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 5: The rest of the week, Jay Feey told the story

501
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Speaker 5: of a guy who went out and he was at

502
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Speaker 5: the back end of the roster and as soon as

503
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Speaker 5: the final fifty three came out and that Tuesday he

504
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Speaker 5: went and bought himself a brand new Hummer. By Thursday,

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Speaker 5: he was out of a job. So tread lightly if

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Speaker 5: you're a young guy and you're one of the final

507
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Speaker 5: people to either make or the squad. Because this thing

508
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Speaker 5: can be evolved in real time, real quick.

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Speaker 3: Regular season right around the corner, single game tickets on

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Speaker 3: to secure your seats. Today we shift our attention defense.

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Speaker 3: Who does make this team? That's next here on the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, utles come out.

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Speaker 5: How about Jesse Luketta is the fullback in the I formation.

515
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Speaker 5: Tune under center and Mari de Mercado the tailback turn

516
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Speaker 5: give no play action, fake tune, deep drop, looking flushed

517
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Speaker 5: to us right, HiT's the checkdown. It's Looketta at the

518
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Speaker 5: twenty five and the outside linebacker, with a couple of moves,

519
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Speaker 5: spins on a one tackle and takes it across the thirty.

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Speaker 5: He's just shy of a first down, but we have

521
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Speaker 5: a flag down on the field. As a Cardinals sideline

522
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Speaker 5: enjoys it well.

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Speaker 7: That brought the entire defense out there from first of all,

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Speaker 7: luket I got a nice block to start, and then

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Speaker 7: he went out into the round and Tunes finds him.

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Speaker 7: It definitely was holding, but a nice job by lukev Hey,

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Speaker 7: you want to make a roster, don't.

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Speaker 5: Play a bunch of different positions.

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Speaker 7: Hop in there at fullback on the offense and prove

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Speaker 7: to this team your value in your work.

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Speaker 3: A nine yard reception wiped off the board because of

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Speaker 3: a holding call on Marquise Hayes.

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 3: A handful of times, Paul, you saw Jesse Luketta in

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Speaker 3: the backfield as a full back, and I don't know

536
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Speaker 3: if that's something that's in the works for the regular

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Speaker 3: season or because you didn't have a lot of tight

538
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Speaker 3: ends dressed for that preseason finale. So you go, hey, Jesse,

539
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Speaker 3: go out there and block or turn around and try

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Speaker 3: to make a catch.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing that will bring the defense off the bench

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Speaker 5: and make them put down their gatorade like one of

543
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Speaker 5: their fellow defenders getting a rep or a snap on offense.

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Speaker 5: They love it. They come out to the white stripe immediately.

545
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Speaker 5: That Megawatt package a couple of years ago, right with

546
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Speaker 5: Watt and Lecky Foe, two guys like that. They enjoyed

547
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Speaker 5: the Kyler Murray twenty one second scramble and then two

548
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Speaker 5: point conversion in Vegas last year. Because the defenders like

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Speaker 5: to see other defenders, you know, basically get clowned by

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. They enjoyed that. They very much love James

551
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Speaker 5: Connor trucking a defender that you know that'll get the

552
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Speaker 5: attention to the defense. But when one of their own

553
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Speaker 5: actually gets into the offensive huddle, oh look out, that's

554
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Speaker 5: standing room only right there.

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Speaker 3: Jesse Loketta, fullback, outside linebacker, special teams. The man did

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Speaker 3: it all on Saturday. As we say, welcome back here,

557
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Speaker 3: second half of the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by

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Speaker 3: seat Geek Your Ticket to Great Seat says, we take

559
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Speaker 3: a look at the defense ahead of roster cuts one

560
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Speaker 3: PM reduced to fifty three players. Does Jesse Luketta make

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Speaker 3: this team? There are a number of outside linebackers in

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Speaker 3: that room already, according reports, Zach McLeod released one of

563
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Speaker 3: those favorites on Saturday three performance all three sacks on

564
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Speaker 3: third down. So he made himself shine on tape, not

565
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Speaker 3: only for the Cardinals but everywhere else. But this is

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Speaker 3: where we get to the numbers. Game drew as far

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Speaker 3: as okay, how many defensive linemen, how many outside linebackers,

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Speaker 3: inside linebackers, defensive backs?

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Speaker 5: What do you do at corner? What do you do at.

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Speaker 3: Safety now that Isaiah Simmons is no longer on this roster,

571
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Speaker 3: and yeah, health versatility, maybe also dollars and cents play

572
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Speaker 3: a factor in all of this as well, and that

573
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Speaker 3: is what guys are doing upstairs right now.

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Speaker 4: Everything plays a factor and everything is on the table

575
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Speaker 4: at this point. Again, we know now it's very clear

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Speaker 4: of the direction that this organization is headed. They want

577
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Speaker 4: to get young, and they want to be able to

578
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Speaker 4: have flexibility. They want to do a lot of these things,

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Speaker 4: and they're willing to endure some growing pains in the process.

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Speaker 4: And that's great, right because you want to bring in

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Speaker 4: guys that you can bring along and see. The problem

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Speaker 4: is who's going to play nickel, who's going to play linebacker,

583
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Speaker 4: who's going to get after the quarterback, who's going to

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Speaker 4: do so all these things that we were hoping to

585
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: have some answers to are still up in the air

586
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Speaker 4: at this point, and who's going to be filled in

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Speaker 4: those roles, Who's going to be able to do that?

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Speaker 4: As far as solidifying that, that's really what we need

589
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Speaker 4: to be able to say, Okay, well we feel good

590
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Speaker 4: about this. This is what we learned about these guys

591
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Speaker 4: in training camp, and sometimes it's a matter of it's

592
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Speaker 4: as much as what they can't do is what they

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Speaker 4: can do. And so that's why you're starting to see

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Speaker 4: some of these cuts. You know, a guy like Rashard

595
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 4: Lawrence that's reportedly been cut, does he still have value?

596
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Speaker 4: Is he a guy that you want to bring back

597
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Speaker 4: and have a part of it because you've seen flashes

598
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 4: when he's healthy that he can do some really good things.

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00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: You have to be able to put pressure on the

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Speaker 4: quarterback and you also have to be able to cover

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Speaker 4: in the back end. And so as these guys gets

602
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Speaker 4: exposed to waivers and there's different strengths, you'll be able

603
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: to find a nickel you can plug and play those guys. Hopefully,

604
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: you know, some of the best nickels in this league

605
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Speaker 4: just need an opportunity. An inside slot corner is what

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Speaker 4: I call nickel. Just for clarification. So because I don't

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Speaker 4: think you want to drop Jalen Thompson down in the

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Speaker 4: box and say I want him playing nickel, I don't

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Speaker 4: think that's something because you don't want to turn a

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Speaker 4: strength that you have of two of elite safeties and

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Speaker 4: potentially turn that into a weakness by saying, Okay, we're

612
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Speaker 4: just going to try and get by right.

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Speaker 5: Now, here's my question. It's a legitimate question. If Jalen

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Speaker 5: Thompson is your best nickel corner, what do you do

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Speaker 5: because I do believe that to be the case talking

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Speaker 5: to some of the defensive coaches. Antonio Hamilton did pretty well,

617
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Speaker 5: the game will run at it. But Jalen Thompson they

618
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Speaker 5: think could be a borderline elite nickel corner. They think

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Speaker 5: he's that good inside. Which, now, after you traded Isaiah

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Speaker 5: Simmons away, if you're talking about trades or a backup center,

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Speaker 5: I really wonder what you do for another safety because

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Speaker 5: when it's Buddha and Jalen Thompson in the slot, then

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Speaker 5: want a Javante Moffatt and Andre Sachia certainly didn't win

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Speaker 5: a job in those last couple of preseason games. What

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Speaker 5: do you do now to.

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Speaker 3: Your point, Drew as far as taking a strength to

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Speaker 3: perhaps plug a gap if you're looking for that fifth

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Speaker 3: dB and play JT as.

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Speaker 5: Your slot corner.

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Speaker 3: And it's a fascinating question because maybe you shore up

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Speaker 3: one area, but you make yourself vulnerable on.

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Speaker 4: The back end, and I don't think you show that up.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think you go find a nickel corner of a

635
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Speaker 4: guy that you're saying, Okay, we're gonna be young anywhere,

636
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Speaker 4: we're gonna be inexperience anywhere. Let's go find a couple

637
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Speaker 4: guys that we think that we can put in there.

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Speaker 4: You know, you think about a guy like Kenny Moore

639
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Speaker 4: that got cut multiple times and now he's in Indianapolis,

640
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Speaker 4: is one of the elite nickel corners, and you can

641
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Speaker 4: make a long living Because for me, I start thinking

642
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Speaker 4: about you go into a game and you're gonna say,

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Speaker 4: Jayleen Thompson is gonna go card Cooper cup inside, You're

644
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Speaker 4: gonna go guard George Kittle or deal Samuel.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I like that. I like him

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Speaker 5: on the back end, coming down and making tackles. I

647
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Speaker 5: like that.

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Speaker 4: So that's where you start looking about, how does everybody

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Speaker 4: fit into the bigger picture of what collectively teamed defense

650
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Speaker 4: is supposed to be. Is Jalen Thompson your best nickel

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Speaker 4: on the team right now is the best slot corner.

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Speaker 4: Perhaps go find somebody else and make him you paid

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Speaker 4: him to be an elite safety. Let him be that.

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Speaker 5: That's currently constructed I agree with Drew. You know what,

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Speaker 5: Jalen Thompson might be a better nickel corner than Antonio Hamilton.

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Speaker 5: But when you take Jalen Thompson out at deep post

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Speaker 5: safety position, not good. Not good for the Cardinals defense.

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Speaker 5: You probably keep JT as a safety and you go

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Speaker 5: with Antonio Hamilton your second best nickel corner if you

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Speaker 5: were playing a game tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Overall the secondary, how did that unit play against the Vikings?

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Speaker 3: Here's head coach Jonathan Ginnon.

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Speaker 8: Thought a lot of those guys played good. You know,

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Speaker 8: a couple of bang bang plays that they converted. That

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Speaker 8: that happens in ball. But I thought they played the

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Speaker 8: coverages the right way. Our structures were pretty good. I

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Speaker 8: thought they competed and handled their business out there.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the defensive line, we touched on it,

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Speaker 3: Rishard Lawrence. According to reports released and now this is

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Speaker 3: the answer is one, as in, one player from that

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty draft class remaining on the team, and that

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Speaker 3: is Lucky Foe two.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: But this is not really a surprise, Paul, because we

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Speaker 3: have seen Lawrence, whether it was into the second half,

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Speaker 3: deep into the fourth quarter of preseason games. Heck, he

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Speaker 3: was third string on the depth chart that the team released,

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Speaker 3: which was eye opening. But you see what you have

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Speaker 3: at defensive line Jonathan Ledbetter, LJ. Collier like you fowe

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Speaker 3: to those are your top three right now, And now

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Speaker 3: you're trying to figure out, all right, we need three more,

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Speaker 3: we need four more? How many are we keeping along

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Speaker 3: that D line after the ones?

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Speaker 5: You name those three starters, which we presume to be

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Speaker 5: the case right now at least based on the existing

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Speaker 5: depth chart of Carlos Watkins in his seventh year experience

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Speaker 5: with Dallas, he's a reliable backup after that. Man, you

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Speaker 5: are scouring the waiver wire. There's no doubt this whole

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Speaker 5: D line room is land of opportunity, especially now Vershard Lawrence,

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Speaker 5: and I think a message was sent that first stepth

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Speaker 5: chart came out early in camp and he was running

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Speaker 5: third team, and that was an indicator to him you

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Speaker 5: need to pick it up and didn't call his name

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Speaker 5: a whole bunch in the subsequent preseason games. Didn't see

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Speaker 5: a whole bunch that to speak of against the vikings

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Speaker 5: and the joint practice. So they've moved on, went in doubt.

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Speaker 5: They've gone with new blood and gone away from some

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Speaker 5: of those Steve Kime draft classes as we have seen.

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Speaker 5: So Dante Stills, I think he's gonna make this team

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Speaker 5: around six rookie at least based on it's how it's

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Speaker 5: currently constructed. And then when you look at how you're

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Speaker 5: getting to the quarterback, Dennis Gardek, what's his availability exactly? Now?

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Speaker 5: From what I understand, they're pretty optimistic he's going to

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Speaker 5: be there for week one. It's not a certainty. And

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Speaker 5: then after that, I thought Cam Thomas played as well

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Speaker 5: as anyone, at least when the lights were on Xavi

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Speaker 5: and Collins obviously, and then after that, Bgo Jalar you

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Speaker 5: got your first look at him, but he was a

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Speaker 5: liability against the runs a couple of times he got

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Speaker 5: sucked in and lost contained. So that'll be curious to

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Speaker 5: see as well.

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Speaker 3: And then my Jay Sanders, how available is he because

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Speaker 3: he hasn't been on the practice field a lot. That

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Speaker 3: hand injury sometimes he addresses, sometimes he doesn't, Sometimes he's participating,

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Speaker 3: sometimes he doesn't. But I'll say this defensively, Drew, pay

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Speaker 3: attention to the Philadelphia Eagle and what they do or

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Speaker 3: do not do with their roster as far as how

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Speaker 3: many defensive players become available because your head coach and

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator come from Philly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't. One of their pass rushers a little

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Speaker 4: discontent as well as far as his role right, Darren

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Speaker 4: Barnett wasn't. I saw some tweets saying I'm not a

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Speaker 4: rotational player, and I.

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Speaker 5: Was like, well, you wouldn't be a rotational player here.

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Speaker 5: So well, if Philly's so deep that it's to their

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Speaker 5: own detriment, Cardinals will take a few players off their hands.

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Speaker 4: Again, it's the familiarity. Sometimes it's who you know and

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Speaker 4: the Again, when you look at this roster, it's going

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Speaker 4: to just continue to turn because that's what they want

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Speaker 4: to do. And as Paul said, they're going to go young.

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Speaker 4: They're going to have some inexperience, and they're willing to

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Speaker 4: grow with these players. They're willing to Okay, bj ol

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Speaker 4: Jeli didn't play well against the run a couple of times.

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Speaker 4: They're going to realize that's going to be the case.

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Speaker 4: But they want to eventually see the growth that's going

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Speaker 4: to come with that, and there's going to be growing

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Speaker 4: pains that come with it. So again, it's not just

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia that they're going to looking at They're looking at everybody,

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Speaker 4: and I know that the narrative right now is what

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Speaker 4: it is. That this team is not trying to be competitive.

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Speaker 4: I can promise you after talking with Jonathan Gannon and

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Speaker 4: talking with Mantiasen for it, they want to be competitive.

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Speaker 4: They just realize that it's going to take a massive

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Speaker 4: shift from where this organization has been because this is

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Speaker 4: their belief and this is how they want to go

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Speaker 4: about it, and that is their prerogative to do so.

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Speaker 4: And again they speak the same language. It is a

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Speaker 4: united front of how they want to go about doing that,

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Speaker 4: and sometimes there is going to be a transition in

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Speaker 4: all of it.

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Speaker 5: I had a conversation with a couple of defensive assistants

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Speaker 5: from day one to day two at joint practices. They

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Speaker 5: were asking Big O Jilari to do some different things,

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Speaker 5: things he never done before at LSU. By day two

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Speaker 5: they were amazed how quickly he had mastered a brand

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Speaker 5: new technique. So to Drew's point, if they're going to

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Speaker 5: go young, the real gauge of success is what do

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Speaker 5: they look like in November and December. What are these

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Speaker 5: rookies who might start at Point A in September what

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Speaker 5: do they look like come the holidays and then all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, you know what, that's where the season

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Speaker 5: is deemed to success because that's your foundation.

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Speaker 3: More on the Cardinals defense with defensive coordinator Nick Rollis.

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Speaker 2: Shotgun Doms third and six steps up throws the peak

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Speaker 2: ball down up Tart McMath with the grab a rainbow

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Speaker 2: from Toms. Great shot by Josh mcdobs being able to

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Speaker 2: deliver the football to the outside for McMath to be

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Speaker 2: able to haul to the turf.

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Speaker 5: As he's catching the.

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Speaker 2: Ball, Toms deep drop. You'll throw to the near side.

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Speaker 2: Catch man, what turns it up the field? Put a touchdown?

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Speaker 5: Josh know what.

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Speaker 9: Toms on time and delivers for the score.

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Speaker 2: It is the first NFL touchdown for Joshua.

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Speaker 9: Tops The voice of Iron Eagle Westwood One Josh Dopps

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Speaker 9: now an Arizona Cardinal acquired from the Browns along with

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Speaker 9: a seventh round pick for a fifth round selection.

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Speaker 5: And is Josh Dobbs your starter week one?

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Speaker 3: That is certainly what we all anticipate happening as we

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Speaker 3: Seekeek your Ticket to Great Seats. Of course, we will

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Speaker 3: not know Paul until whomever it is trots out on

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Speaker 3: that football field for the first offensive snap of the season, because,

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Speaker 3: as we heard from Jonathan Gannon on Monday, he will

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Speaker 3: not name a starter. They'll know, but he's not going

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Speaker 3: to name anything publicly.

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Speaker 5: So going into camp, I half joked about, you know,

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Speaker 5: nothing gets us through training camp in the month of

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Speaker 5: August like fanning the flames of a quarterback hop petition

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Speaker 5: slash controversy. Turns out we didn't need to do any

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Speaker 5: of that because it's been self contained. It has been organic.

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Speaker 5: It is real, very real at this point, who is

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Speaker 5: the starting quarterback at Washington And even after the decide,

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Speaker 5: you're on a need to know basis, Craig Grielou, So

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Speaker 5: we'll find out on game day. Apparently the only.

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Speaker 3: Team in the National Football League that has not named

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Speaker 3: a starting quarterback for Week one would be your Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens in Washington week one. When

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Speaker 3: we talk about Dobbs his familiarity with the offensive system

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Speaker 3: last season, he began with the Browns, Drew Petsing Israel

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Speaker 3: wolfwork practice squad with the Lions, Hey, assistant general manager

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Speaker 3: Dave Sears was there. Ended last season with the Titans. Oh,

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Speaker 3: your general manager Many ausen.

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Speaker 5: Ford was there.

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Speaker 3: So this all helps and I think Drew, if you're

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Speaker 3: looking for the reason why it is Dobbs to suit

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Speaker 3: up week one, it's because he's coming in with so

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Speaker 3: much familiarity with the staff, with maybe some players, as

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Speaker 3: well as the system that he'll.

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Speaker 5: Be running exactly.

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Speaker 4: He has to be the choice, right and as far

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Speaker 4: as learning the system, he's got a couple weeks to

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Speaker 4: do it. He's also in aerospace as an engineer, so

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Speaker 4: I would imagine that space is a little bit more

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Speaker 4: difficult than football and understanding that. So that was well

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Speaker 4: documented as time in college. Again, he's got a sample

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Speaker 4: size and there's a lot that people are looking to

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Speaker 4: as far as connecting these dots, and you just connected

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Speaker 4: all of them, right. He has so many people that

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Speaker 4: he's seen in the front office that can come in

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Speaker 4: and again. I don't think people realize how difficult it

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Speaker 4: is when he went to Tennessee and then all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden got an opportunity to start. He was there

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Speaker 4: for a very short period of time and went out

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Speaker 4: and played good football and was able to do some

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Speaker 4: really good things. And that isn't a meaningful game when

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Speaker 4: you do that, and you don't really know until you

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Speaker 4: put somebody's hand to the fire. But he performed admirably.

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Speaker 4: He played well, and now he's getting an opportunity, and

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Speaker 4: I would imagine that opportunity will come week one when

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Speaker 4: he gets to go again. The Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Signed on December twenty, first started eight days later for

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Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans. His new head coach, Jonathan Gannon on

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Speaker 3: what dobbs is familiarity means for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: I think it's very valuable. It's, you know, any position

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Speaker 6: is hard to come in and play right away, and

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Speaker 6: guys do it all across the league. That's what the

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Speaker 6: NFL is, especially when you get banged up and things

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Speaker 6: like that later in the year. But I think just

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Speaker 6: his familiarity of the system, the verbage, I think that

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Speaker 6: obviously helps him a lot.

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Speaker 5: All right, Craig, I'm going to step in. I got

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Speaker 5: a question for Drew based on that comment right there.

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Speaker 5: How much how much does it help Josh Dobbs going

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Speaker 5: into week one? How much of a challenge is it.

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Speaker 5: How much of a learning curve is there versus if

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Speaker 5: he would have been here for the entirety of offseason.

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Speaker 5: Because most people are making this out to be a

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Speaker 5: herculean task trying to navigate that learning curve in two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I think it's more difficult to do it in eight days.

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Speaker 4: To Craig's point of what happens when you go to

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Speaker 4: a new place with new verb and everything's brand new,

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Speaker 4: you can go back and I would imagine that you know,

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Speaker 4: he's been this league for a while, that he has notebooks,

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Speaker 4: and he has his notebooks of all the things that

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Speaker 4: he did when he was there in Cleveland. He can

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Speaker 4: go back. He can refresh that now whether or not

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Speaker 4: the verbiage is the same, because there's carry over based

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Speaker 4: off of what it is. But him and Drew Petson

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Speaker 4: have already worked together, right, They were already in the

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Speaker 4: same room together when he was the quarterback coach. So

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Speaker 4: you have the ability to talk Okay, this is how

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Speaker 4: we used to do this, this is how we see this. Okay,

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Speaker 4: this is this is the same thing, right, It's just

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Speaker 4: a little twist here or a little bit different there,

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Speaker 4: but you can relate stuff. There's already an extreme advantage

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Speaker 4: that he has based off of what they're doing. And

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Speaker 4: till at Craig's point, he's been in a training camp.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't on a street somewhere, he wasn't doing anything.

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Speaker 4: He was running, hopefully something similar to this offense, getting

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Speaker 4: valuable reps as the second team quarterback, being able to

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Speaker 4: do it in the system very similar to this one.

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Speaker 4: And now he's just get an opportunity to get the

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Speaker 4: keys and say, okay, now it's your team. Now you

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Speaker 4: are in charge. What are you going to do? And

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Speaker 4: again he's going to be able to do that. He

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Speaker 4: endured himself to a Tennessee fan base very quickly and

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Speaker 4: within eight days was out there playing good enough football

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Speaker 4: to go out there and win games. Now he's going

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Speaker 4: to do it for the duration of the season until

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Speaker 4: Kyleer comes back and really has the opportunity to prolong

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Speaker 4: his career because of Drew Petsing and what he knows.

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Speaker 4: So I don't see this as a herculean task in

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Speaker 4: any sense. They made this move saying, Okay, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: be our Week one starter. Had Clayton Tune been good enough,

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Speaker 4: that felt like they could have put him out there.

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Speaker 4: They don't make that trade. They said, okay, well, you

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Speaker 4: know what, Colts are backup and we'll be good until

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Speaker 4: we do this, and we're gonna start Clayton Tune. Obviously

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Speaker 4: they didn't feel comfortable doing that. Even though they haven't

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Speaker 4: named a starter yet. But your Week one starter, in

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Speaker 4: my opinion, will be Josh Dobbs or hopefully it will

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Speaker 4: be Josh Doabbs.

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Speaker 3: Just have not heard that from the man himself that

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Speaker 3: would be head coach Jonathan Gann And he was asked

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Speaker 3: Monday about the plan that they have on naming a

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Speaker 3: starting QB.

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Speaker 6: I think we got a pretty good plan in place,

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Speaker 6: but I want to see him, you know, both go

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Speaker 6: through the next two weeks. But I think that the

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Speaker 6: plan that we have have to evaluate that and to

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Speaker 6: get that done and the team knowing the why behind it,

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Speaker 6: I think they're comfortable with it, but so good about

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Speaker 6: where it's at.

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Speaker 3: Some other familiarity for Josh Dobbs with this Cardinals team.

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Speaker 3: Our own producer jim On Mahunter brought up that running

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Speaker 3: back James Connor same draft class as Dobbs with the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. And then you think about where Dobbs was

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Speaker 3: last season Cleveland Browns. How much time Paul did he

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Speaker 3: work with, Yelda fro Hole I have I mean, that's legitimate.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea because fro Hole at that point

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Speaker 3: was so far down on the depth chart as far

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Speaker 3: as the center position, but so was Dobbs to a

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Speaker 3: certain extent. So do they have some familiarity because that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be key center quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And let me see this in conclusion that there's a

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Speaker 5: narrative out there that this move was done in part

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Speaker 5: to fortify the Cardinals draft position next year, i e. Tanking.

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Speaker 5: If you would have stuck with the quarterback that you

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Speaker 5: saw running with the one in those two joint practices,

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Speaker 5: that would have been more of an attempt to go

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Speaker 5: out there and lose games. This is an attempt to

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Speaker 5: try and win. This is an attempt to try and

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Speaker 5: upgrade at the position with a player who will come

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Speaker 5: in and hopefully present much more of a threat to

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Speaker 5: that Washington Commander's defense than you would have had with

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Speaker 5: the quarterback you just cut. That's based on what we

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Speaker 5: saw in Minnesota in some extremely real eleven on eleven

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Speaker 5: ones against one's regular season type joint practice sessions. It

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Speaker 5: was very evident Cardinals needed to make a move, and

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Speaker 5: they did.

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Speaker 3: Dobbs on the practice field this week with his new teammates.

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Speaker 3: But will he be on the field Week one against

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Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders. We believe so, We think so, we

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Speaker 3: anticipate that the case for the Arizona Cardinals just will

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Speaker 3: not know officially until the game starts on that Sunday.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna put a rap on this edition of the

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Speaker 5: I'm Craig Real Lou.

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