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Speaker 1: And you mentioned something that bothers me even to this day,

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Speaker 1: these coaches all know each other. You know, go find

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Speaker 1: the quality control guy that you worked with in New

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Speaker 1: England ten years ago, or the you know, assistant linebacker

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Speaker 1: coach that you grew up with or you know, played

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Speaker 1: against in college. I'm sure there's some contact somewhere to

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Speaker 1: where you could have back channeled it to figure it out. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what was going on with this even like

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Speaker 1: you said, for your purpose, which was, you know, can

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Speaker 1: I do something better next time? Now, grant he's a

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Speaker 1: head coach then, so I don't know if you worry

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Speaker 1: about a matter. But regardless, I think he got a

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Speaker 1: very solid point there, and there's a thousand ways that

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Speaker 1: could have been handled, you know, in that manner. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of Flores, according to reports by Josina Anderson and Aaron Wilson,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Texans, Flores is still a finalist for

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Speaker 1: the Texans head coaching job, along with Eagles defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gan and four NFL quarterback Josh McCown. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen anything that confirmed whether or not Flores had a

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Speaker 1: second interview with the Texans. I believe he had an

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Speaker 1: initial one. Don't know if that was face to face

447
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Speaker 1: or not. And we heard Flores in some of his

448
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Speaker 1: national television appearances yesterday essentially say I contacted the Texans,

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Speaker 1: I contacted the Saints, which are two head coaching jobs

450
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Speaker 1: I am up for, and told them I am still

451
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Speaker 1: interested in coaching in this league despite my lawsuit, and

452
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Speaker 1: just so you know, if you do hire me, the

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Speaker 1: case is still going to proceed. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: drop the lawsuit if you hire me, as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: So I applaud the honesty and the fourth right nature

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Speaker 1: in which he's describing his situation to these two prospective

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Speaker 1: employers of his. And here we are two days later

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Speaker 1: and it's still being reported that he's a finalist for

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Speaker 1: the Texans job. How did that grab you? Well, it's

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Speaker 1: an opportunity from the NFL's point of when you wonder

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Speaker 1: if the conspiracy theorists, I'm sure will go big with this.

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Speaker 1: But the Texans when they let go of David Culley,

463
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Speaker 1: were kind of a little bit accused of a racist

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Speaker 1: choice there, because you know, Kelley was a black man

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Speaker 1: who got that job, and we all knew he was

466
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Speaker 1: going into a spot where no one could succeed actually

467
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Speaker 1: probably exceeded, you know, expectations in general, the four wins

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Speaker 1: they got and we're you know, relatively competitive in a

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Speaker 1: lot of games, and for him to not keep that job,

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Speaker 1: that many eyebrows were raised. Well, if you can get

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Speaker 1: the Texans to hire you know, the guy who is

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Speaker 1: the author of this lawsuit and Brian Flores, you know,

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Speaker 1: from a pr point of view, I'm sure there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in New York City and the

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Speaker 1: NFL offices that will be you know, happy about that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, for we've all covered enough football teams

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Speaker 1: and football people to know, you know, the idea of

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Speaker 1: bringing in a coach that's openly saying yep, I'm not changing,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we're gonna do this. You know, every

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Speaker 1: every week of the season, there might be a question about, oh,

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Speaker 1: what what happened with this update on the lawsuit? What

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Speaker 1: did you think of this? You know, to where the

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Speaker 1: distraction word will get tossed around. And I think at

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Speaker 1: least for this particular coaching hiring cycle, if not all

485
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Speaker 1: of them, but certainly for this one, I think to

486
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Speaker 1: be really hired for Brian Flores to get a job,

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Speaker 1: no matter you know, what pr benefit there might be

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Speaker 1: for the league. Yeah. The other bit of news and

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Speaker 1: notes going on in the nation's capital. A day after

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Speaker 1: the Washington football team revealed its new name, the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 1: the House Committee on Oversight and Reform heard testimony today

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Speaker 1: from former Washington team employees about how they were the

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Speaker 1: victims of sexual harassment. The committee chair said, this is

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Speaker 1: just a first step toward true transparency and accountability. So

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Speaker 1: four different women, all former employees of the Washington commanders,

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Speaker 1: I guess provided testimony today. Where it goes from here

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Speaker 1: is not quite clear, But the House Oversight Committee does investigations.

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Speaker 1: They apparently were dissatisfied with the findings of the league's investigation.

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Speaker 1: So now they're picking up the baton here it seems

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Speaker 1: saying that that justice essentially was not served for these

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Speaker 1: brave women who came forward. It's gonna be very interesting

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Speaker 1: to see where that goes. Yeah, I mean, we've got

503
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Speaker 1: a situation now too where you have two ownership groups

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Speaker 1: between the snyders in Washington and Stephen Ross in Miami

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Speaker 1: that you know, the part of the Brian Floors lawsuit

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Speaker 1: we didn't touch, which was the essentially bribing to lose games.

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Speaker 1: Both ownership groups are on you know, pretty shaky ground,

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Speaker 1: especially the Miami guys, but you know, the Washington group

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Speaker 1: as well in terms of you know, still being the

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Speaker 1: owners of those franchises based on you know, the things

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Speaker 1: that have come to light and the allegations that have

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Speaker 1: been made. These are things, again, especially in the Miami situation,

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Speaker 1: that the league may not and probably should not, you know,

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Speaker 1: tolerate in terms of being part of an ownership group.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I mean from a league perspective, to

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Speaker 1: have you know, one sixteenth of your ownership groups under

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Speaker 1: that much fire, it's a you know, obviously not an

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Speaker 1: ideal situation for the league, and these are not you know,

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Speaker 1: these are pretty prominent franchises as well. So how the

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Speaker 1: league handles it and how long these two guys are

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Speaker 1: still the owners of their particular teams is kind of

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Speaker 1: the thing that maybe, you know, fans might be able

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Speaker 1: to connect with more and certainly a point that I'm

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Speaker 1: keeping an eye on going forward. Yeah, it's it's going

525
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Speaker 1: to be an interesting offseason, to say the least. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of the Miami situation, and Hugh Jackson, who kind of

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Speaker 1: came out and then couched some of his comments less

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Speaker 1: than twenty four hours later after he kind of went

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Speaker 1: along with what Brian Flores said, I said, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had incentives to lose games as well, along with

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Speaker 1: front office people. It's like, what is going on here?

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Speaker 1: He kind of couched some of his comments when he

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Speaker 1: went on live television in an interview, but still in

534
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Speaker 1: all it's certainly raising red flags about the integrity of

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Speaker 1: the game. And Steve and I got into a brief

536
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Speaker 1: discussion about this yesterday in terms of how you fix

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Speaker 1: that and d incentivized purposely tossing games so you can

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Speaker 1: get a better draft choice. And that is the topic

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Speaker 1: that we have in our Twitter conversation today. Should the

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Speaker 1: NFL adopt a draft lottery system? This is something the

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Speaker 1: NBA has done for years. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: would go completely the way the NBA does it, but

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Speaker 1: I am all in favor of a draft lottery system,

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Speaker 1: and I think that would help prevent what the Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins have been accused of at the ownership level. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about what do you think

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Speaker 1: about a lottery system? You have to now, I mean

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Speaker 1: with what's come to light, you know, and unless the

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Speaker 1: league or someone can prove beyond a shadow of a

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Speaker 1: doubt that Brian Flores was totally inventing everything he's saying,

551
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Speaker 1: and I'd be totally stunned about it. At this point,

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00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: the cats out of the bag there. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone trusts, you know, teams in terms of the idea

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Speaker 1: that they might be tanking. You need to dissuade that.

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Speaker 1: You need to at least create some level of belief

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Speaker 1: from the fan point of view that teams are trying

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Speaker 1: to win in general. I mean when you go to

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Speaker 1: a game as a fan, the number one thing you

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Speaker 1: expect is that both teams are trying to win. I mean,

560
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: that's the basis of sports. If you don't have that,

561
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: then what you have is professional wrestling, and that's not

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Speaker 1: what any of these leagues are trying to sell. So

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Speaker 1: if there's any belief or question about whether or not

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Speaker 1: Team A and Team B are trying to win, then

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Speaker 1: that's a problem for a league. So if we're going

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Speaker 1: at a point now where there's credible reason to believe

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Speaker 1: that owners are paying coaches, gems, whoever to not play,

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Speaker 1: then you need to come up with every single way

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Speaker 1: not only to dissuade that, but to restore the belief

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Speaker 1: in your fan base that all your games around the

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00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: up and up. So to me, you know, I draft

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Speaker 1: lottery is not the only solution or the thing that

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Speaker 1: will fix everything. But I don't see how you get

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Speaker 1: away from it now. I'm fine with the NBA mode.

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00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: You know, take all the non playoff teams, put them

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Speaker 1: in a bag, and you pick for the top three

577
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: weighted picks. I mean, I don't see a different way

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Speaker 1: you can do it, and we can talk about this

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Speaker 1: more if you want. But I think I think the

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Speaker 1: basic strategy makes sense to me. Now I've seen like

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00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: you take the team, the best team who had who

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Speaker 1: did not make the playoffs, give them the first pick.

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00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I hate that. I think you're taking the Yeah, you're

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00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: taking the worst teams, and you're sticking them in a

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Speaker 1: hole they may never be able to get out of.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem. I don't know, if you want, I

587
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: would certainly give a lot less chance to like the

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00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: last four or five teams, the best four or five

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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: teams who did not make the playoffs, because when you

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Speaker 1: compare NBA and NFL, there's more non playoff teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, So there's a lot of pieces of this.

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Speaker 1: But I would be I would think that a draft

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Speaker 1: lottery is the easiest bet to make within the next

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Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, it would certainly be a good the best,

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Speaker 1: good faith effort. I think the league could enact on

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Speaker 1: its own behalf to restore confidence in the fans that yes,

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Speaker 1: we have you know, two teams every week going at

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Speaker 1: each other trying to win football games, and there is

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Speaker 1: no incentive to purposely be the worst team in the

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Speaker 1: league the draft. A draft lottery would go a long

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Speaker 1: way in, you know, rendering that case moot. As far

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Speaker 1: as I see, there's other things you can probably do too,

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00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: but this seems to be a very easy change that

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Speaker 1: they can make to kind of restore the confidence in

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Speaker 1: the fan base that teams are actually trying to win

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Speaker 1: each and every week. I'll kind of explain what I

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Speaker 1: have in mind when we come back. I don't have

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Speaker 1: enough time right now to lay it all out there,

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Speaker 1: but we'll take your phone calls at eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty Should the NFL adopt a draft lottery system? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Or no? And tell us why. It's Chris Brown and

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Speaker 1: Thad Brown with you here on a Thursday on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Collott of Health. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Fad Brown with you here on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And just to kind of keep you plugged into the

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Speaker 1: coaching carousel that continues, Some NFL network reporters, both Mike

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Speaker 1: Garafolo and Ian Rappaport, are reporting that the Giants are

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Speaker 1: look it looks like the Giants are going to hire

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Speaker 1: current Chiefs quarterbacks coach Mike Kafka as their offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: So it looks like that's probably what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's not done yet, but looks like it will that.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm getting old when I remember Mike Kafka

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Speaker 1: coming out, if I believe it was Northwestern as a

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00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: quarterback prospect. He was like a backup, third string prospect.

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Speaker 1: I think the Eagles drafted him. Maybe I can't remember exactly,

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Speaker 1: but that's scary when I can remember where the college's

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Speaker 1: coaches played at well. I mean. The other part of it, too,

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Speaker 1: is is that the the amount of time it takes

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Speaker 1: a person to go from player to prominent coach is

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Speaker 1: speeding up. I mean, wasn't Kellen Moore winning games of

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Speaker 1: boys they like two seconds ago? And now he's on

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Speaker 1: the short list for most head coaching coordinating jobs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: i'd show you know you're getting the You know, guys

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00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: are getting these head jobs in their thirties, you know,

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00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: So that's a part of it too. But also, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're getting old sold because yeah, I'm with you. I

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: remember Mike Kafka being the plucky underdog guy. Yeah, I

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00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: just looked at up. I just I just looked it up.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel as bad. He's thirty four. It's only

642
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: thirty four years old, and then that's young. Yeah. And

643
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Mike Mike O'Connell just got the job with the Vikings

644
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: and he's only thirty six, I believe, and he's a

645
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: head coach. Yeah. So Kevin O'Connell or Kevin O'Connell, right,

646
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: I do that all the time, um, because I knew

647
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: a Mike O'Connell growing up. That's like one of those

648
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: mental blocks you just can't get past. I'm gonna do

649
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: it forever. Um, I wanted to bounce off of you.

650
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: So here's what I thought with respect to a draft

651
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 1: lottery and maybe tweaking it a little bit from what

652
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: the NBA does, because to my knowledge, the NBA still

653
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: does waited ping pong ball system. You know number one

654
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: team as the most ping pong balls in the hopper,

655
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: you know the twelfth team as the fewest. Instead of

656
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: doing it that way, I was wondering if you could

657
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: tear it. And I guess what I'm saying there is

658
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: you take the teams with the five worst records in football.

659
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: You put them in one hopper waited. Then you take

660
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: six to ten, put them in a second hopper waited,

661
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: and then eleven two, what is it? Sixteen? Just go

662
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: in order eleven to sixteen or we're doing eighteen teams

663
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: that you want to do if you're want to put

664
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: it in three groups you want to I'm sorry, an

665
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: playoff teams, so you eleven to eighteen, just leave them

666
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: in order in reverse, you know, worst to best record.

667
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: You know the teams that were just outside of the

668
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: playoff picture eleven eighteen, leave them alone, leave them in order.

669
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: But the top ten you're throwing a hopper. One to

670
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: five they're in a hopper. So the worst that the

671
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: team with the worst record in football gets is pick

672
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: five and then six to ten. You you spin them

673
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: around as well in the same fashion waited, and they're

674
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: in a different And the NFL could make this an event,

675
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: just like the NBA does. You know, you have a

676
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: big old hopper over here. You pull them out there,

677
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: all right, when we come back, we'll do second hopper.

678
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing. I mean, you know

679
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: how they can do that and make make millions of

680
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: dollars just doing a draft. Lot of reevent and I

681
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: would say do that for the top ten, leave eleven

682
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: to eighteen alone. I don't know. I like that, And

683
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right. It will be a gigundess

684
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: money making event. And you know, the NFL will probably

685
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: stick it what early March, mid March, so they can

686
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: dominate that month too, maybe right after a couple of

687
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: weeks after free agency starts. Just whatever spot the NFL

688
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: doesn't own right now, they'll put the lottery there and

689
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: take over that week too. Yeah, I think that makes sense.

690
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: You know. The one concern and the one you know

691
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: pushback i'd have on the lottery is that, unlike basketball

692
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: or hockey, which has a similar lottery, if you don't

693
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: get one of the top three picks, sure you might

694
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: miss out on Connor McDavid or you know, Michael Jordan, whatever,

695
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: but you're still gonna get a really good player at

696
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: number four. You know, you might get a really good

697
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: goalie or a really good guard or whatever. In the NFL,

698
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: because quarterback is so important. If you're a terrible if

699
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: you're team two and fifteen and you end up five

700
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: and you missed out on the quarterback, it's gonna be

701
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: really hard to sell any kind of season tickets in

702
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: that city next year, even though you have the best

703
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: pass rusher coming out of the draft, because everybody knows

704
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: you don't have that quarterback still. Now, recent history doesn't

705
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: make I think doesn't provide much worry for that, because

706
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen was picked seventh, Justin Herbert was

707
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: picked six this past year, the quarterback with the best

708
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: season out that there's any hard and fast rule on

709
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: how good any of these guys are. But Mac Jones

710
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: was picked fifteen. He was the best quarterback of the year.

711
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: But if you go back to like the twenty sixteen draft,

712
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: fifteen fourteen, there's a lot of drafts in there. Jared

713
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Goffin Wentz went one two, the RG three Andrew Luck

714
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: draft was quarterbacks one two. If we go back to

715
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: that realm again and we're in a lottery where the

716
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: team that goes two and fifteen doesn't get either those

717
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, now you're taking one of your fan bases

718
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: and making it, like I said, really hard to make

719
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: money the next season, because everybody knows that team is

720
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: still dead. Now. It's there's a lot of cumstances I'm

721
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: bringing up there. But That is my one concern for

722
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: the lottery about you know, the best thing the NFL

723
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: can sell is hope, and they're gonna put the Bengals

724
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: on every picture next year because that team won four

725
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: games last season is now on the Super Bowl. But

726
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: if you're in a situation where there is no hope

727
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: because terrible team to not get a quarterback, that's something

728
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: the league will want to avoid. Yeah, i'd be interested

729
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: to see, you know. I mean, you could do the

730
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: research on your own if you wanted to go back

731
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: through all the drafts. You know, you think about Mayfield

732
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: being the first pick and that hasn't translated into much

733
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: more than a single playoff birth for the Browns. And yeah,

734
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: I mean, as you mentioned, Darnold did three that didn't

735
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: work for the Jets, So I think you could argue

736
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: with both ways. There's probably more compelling evidence that having

737
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: the first pick winds up being more fruitful in terms

738
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: of picking a quarterback more often than not. But as

739
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: we know, they're the most missed position in the history

740
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: of the first round is quarterback, due in part to

741
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: the fact that it's one of the most highly chosen

742
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: positions for obvious reasons. But yeah, I'd be interested to

743
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: see what the exact percentages are, maybe over the last

744
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: twenty years as two hits and misses it picks one

745
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: and two, because you also have the Winston Mariota year.

746
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: You know that one too, and neither of them, either

747
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: of them worked. It's not even Chris is not even

748
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: about like a guy succeeding either. You just need to

749
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: have a guy to hope. Yeah, you know even you know, yeah,

750
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: right exactly. You know if even if it's Jake Ponder,

751
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, at least that team could go in the

752
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: next season, say wow, we got this new quarterback that

753
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: you never know, he might be the next great MVP.

754
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: He might be the next Pat Mahomes. You know that

755
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: there's a chance, and you can sell tickets on that.

756
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: But if you get into a situation where, you know,

757
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: we cycle back to where the quarterbacks are only available

758
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: picks one, two, and three, then yeah, you're gonna have

759
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: one or two or maybe the three fan bases where

760
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really hard to sell any kind of

761
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, future for that team. And you know, from

762
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: the NFL business model, like I said, many they grind

763
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: hoping the dollars better than any league and it's going

764
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: in sports right now, and if you take that away,

765
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: that's something that the league will not be a fan of. Yeah,

766
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones at eight oh three oh

767
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty

768
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: And leading us off today is Jim. I believe it's

769
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: in Penfield here because I don't know a Pennville. So Jim,

770
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live.

771
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah it's Penfield. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, on that weighted lottery thing,

772
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: don't forget they're still going to allow trades, correct, Yeah

773
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: I would why not? Yeah, that's that's you know, that's

774
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: something that I was thinking about when you mentioned it.

775
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: But I do like your idea of tearing the lottery system.

776
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: But I want to throw some gas on the fire

777
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: on the playing paying coaches to tank games, yeah, officiating

778
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: money to the officials. Yeah, so you think you know

779
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: that that could open up a whole basket of stuff

780
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: that nobody wants to talk about. So anyway, I'll hang

781
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: up and I'll let you guys talk about it. Yeah, okay,

782
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Jim. I mean we saw the

783
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: NBA had to deal with that. Who what was that

784
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: guy's name daily Tim donahee, donahee. That's what it was. Yeah,

785
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: he got uh well he was discovered, as you know,

786
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: being guilty of that and got bounced from the league

787
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: rather quickly. And I would and this is I mean

788
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: that that call right there, Chris, is the exact reason

789
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: why the NFL needs to handle this part of the Bryan,

790
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, asap because all the people out there who

791
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: have been for years, oh, the refs must be taking money,

792
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: they're they're cheating. You know that my team lost because

793
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: this ref clearly did not like them or was on

794
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean all of that that that spickett is just

795
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's not gonna be a spickett, you know,

796
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: knocked the faucet off. It's gonna be like a fire

797
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: hydrant of fans throwing these out and again, you know,

798
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: casting all kinds of doubt upon the legitimacy of the league.

799
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: So I mean, I got I got goosebumps listening to

800
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: that call, because I know what the future holds if

801
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't handle this suit. Well that yeah, that's

802
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: where everybody's mind goes. And here's the other thing, because

803
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Steve and I were talking about this yesterday, Thad. You know,

804
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: you Ross refutes, you know, all of the claims and

805
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: allegations that Flora has made. But Flora's claims to have

806
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: corroborating evidence that Ross did in fact offer to pay

807
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: him a hundred thousand dollars per loss to lose games.

808
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: He said he never took the money because that's not

809
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: what he's about. Okay, fine, But if you're doing an investigation,

810
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: if I'm doing it, the first thing I'm thinking is, Okay,

811
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: let's see who can corroborate what and whose story holds up.

812
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: And then if you do find Flora's didn't take the

813
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: money and Ross was unsuccessful and convincing his head coach

814
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: to take money to lose games, you have to believe

815
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: that he went to somebody else, whether it's assistant coaches, players,

816
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: and Jim went all the way down the rabbit hole

817
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: to officials. So, yeah, there are a lot of tentacles

818
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: that offshoot this allegation that the league's going to have

819
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: to investigate quickly. You have to get a resolution to

820
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: this whole thing fast because of the very thing that

821
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: you said. Yeah, this is goes back to the whole

822
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: idea from the movie The natural Roy Hobbs wasn't an undertake,

823
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: but the pitcher was, you know, so you're right, there's

824
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: there's probably someone else involved or someone else who was approached.

825
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I know, I read I remember who it was. But

826
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: one of the eight thousand Miami Dolphin beat runners that

827
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: I follow on Twitter, one of them apparently ran down

828
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: a witness or someone who claims to be a witness

829
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: to this one hundred thousand dollars offers. So there are

830
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: corroborating sources, at least to outside of the florest lawsuits

831
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: to what happened. Yeah, I mean, this is this is

832
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: the NFL's worst nightmare. You know, this is why Pete

833
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: Rose is not, you know, in the Baseball Hall of

834
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Fame because what he did casted doubt upon, you know,

835
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: baseball's future. He basically, I mean, there's a whole bunch

836
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: of different things that went into that punishment, but he essentially,

837
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, fell on the sword for baseball there. And

838
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's very likely that Steven Ross might be

839
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: doing the same thing for the NFL relatively soon. But regardless,

840
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: you know that this is and the sad part is

841
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: the more important part of what Brian Flores is talking

842
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: about is one hundred percent minority hiring and the opportunity

843
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: for advancement for black and minority coaches in the NFL.

844
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: But from the league point of view, from the world

845
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: of professional sports, the idea that an owner was paying

846
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: a coach to tank a game is the most important

847
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: thing more than anything else, more than any issue in society.

848
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, because this is the basic tenet of what

849
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: that business models built upon. So we have this situation

850
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: where Flores brought this lawsuit up to open people's eyes

851
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: to what was going on with minority hiring who you know,

852
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: which is a part of a social issue in this country.

853
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: That is something that I would prefer to have solved

854
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: more than figuring out how the NFL can make money

855
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: better or you know, other league viewed more prominently by

856
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: people who follow it. But yet the thing the league

857
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: is going to worry about more Stephen rosson bribery because

858
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: the essential part of professional sports, right and it's it's

859
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: almost a shame that he felt there was a racial

860
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: element to what the Dolphins to how his owner handled him,

861
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: because in the end, in the endgame, it looks more

862
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: like a moral compass issue with the Dolphins than a

863
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: racial issue with the Dolphins, who have one of the

864
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: highest population of minorities in their front office in the

865
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: entire league. So it's unfortunate that he lumped that in

866
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: with the problem with minority hiring, but he did. And

867
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: this is where we sit now, and I agree with you.

868
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: I think the league is going to be acting much

869
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: more swiftly and how they handle the integrity of the

870
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: game issue brought up in this lawsuit than, unfortunately than

871
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: I already hiring issue. We have to take a break here,

872
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: but when we come back more your phone calls here

873
00:43:51,880 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right, Chris Brown,

874
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Dad Brown here with you on a Thursday edition of

875
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Want to get right back to the

876
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: phones Twitter conversation today. Should the NFL adopt a draft

877
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: lottery system in the wake of the allegations by Brian

878
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: Flores that his owner asked him to purposely lose games

879
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: for bonus money. We go back to the phones and

880
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: to Mark in West Seneca. What do you have first?

881
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: Mark here on One Bills Live. Good afternoon, gentlemen, How

882
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: are you good? Hey? A couple of things about the

883
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: draft draft lottery. I noted League is trying to level

884
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: the playing field for teams and make the league as

885
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: competitive as possible across the league. I understand the concept

886
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: of giving the top picks to the worst teams, but

887
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: the one thing that never there's two things about doing

888
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: a lottery the way you're talking about with a weighted lottery.

889
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: Number one, even though there's less incentive, there still is

890
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: incentive to try and get down to the bottom to

891
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: get the best outs. So you're not really removing that,

892
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: and we've seen that in hockey. All that does is

893
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: eliminate to guarantee that you're going to get the top

894
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: pick that's number one. Number two. When you're rewarding teams

895
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: for being bad the way we do with the draft,

896
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: you're rewarding teams for being bad organizations. It's not just

897
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: a bad win loss record of the previous year. You're

898
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: rewarding teams for drafting poorly in later rounds. You're rewarding

899
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: teams for not developing players. You're rewarding teams are not

900
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: managing their salary cap better. Okay, and I understand you

901
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: can't control any of that as a league, but my

902
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: opinion is to give everybody an equal share in this

903
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: whole thing, and not bad teams for being bad through

904
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: their organization. It should be a lottery that goes from

905
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: ten down to one okay, single ball each, no guarantees

906
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: for anybody, So that removes any incentive to get to

907
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: the bottom, and it also somewhat limits teams for being

908
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: bad in their organizations. Now there's no guarantees any of

909
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: those bad, bad teams will get out of that group

910
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: of ten, but at least you're not hurting other teams

911
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: while rewarding bad organizations. It's the way I look at it.

912
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you guys think of that,

913
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: but that's one of the things that never ever gets

914
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: talked about with the draft in lotteries is how re

915
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: reward teams for being bad through the organization and so

916
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: many other aspects. Yeah, I get it, Mark, thanks for

917
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: the call that. Why don't you Why don't you address that?

918
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on that? Hold on? I think rewarding

919
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: bad teams is not ideal. You know, that's not what

920
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: it should be. But this is not about fairness. This

921
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: is about business, and like I said before, in business,

922
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: the NFL needs the teams that won two, three, four

923
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: or five games the year before to have a reason

924
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: to buy season tickets the next year. The best way

925
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: to do that is by giving them the best players

926
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: coming out in college, especially when their quarterbacks, and as

927
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: we've seen, can have a franchise changing effect if you

928
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: happen to land on the right one. So being able

929
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: to sell that hope is the reason why the NFL

930
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: does it the way it does. I think logically what

931
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: Mark said makes a lot of sense. I think from

932
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: a business point of view, it's not going to happen now.

933
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: He's also right too, And then I'll put the NBA

934
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: right next to the NHL with this. There's still been

935
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: plenty of tanking or what seems like tanking in the

936
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Speaker 1: NBA and the NHL with their current lottery formats that

937
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: both you and I kind of proposed in the same realm.

938
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: So it's not going to solve it, but the NFL

939
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: at least has to do something to make it harder

940
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: and less obvious and again restore some belief in the

941
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: integrity of what they're doing. Right, and the waiting of

942
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 1: the lottery can be altered. I mean, it doesn't have to.

943
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: Like the team that had the worst record in the league,

944
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: they may have the most ping pong balls in the hopper,

945
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: but it may not be a thirty three percent more

946
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: than everybody else. Maybe it's only fifteen percent more than

947
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: anybody else. You can tweak that and the probabilities as

948
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: much as you want to make it harder to de

949
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: incentivize get having the worst record. The other thing, too,

950
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: is while Mark makes a good point that you're rewarding

951
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: the bad teams. While you might be doing that, they

952
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: still have to get it right in the draft. And

953
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: he said you're rewarding teams that draft poorly, Well, if

954
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: they keep drafting poorly, the rewards are not going to

955
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: be as readily felt by those clubs anyway. So that

956
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: might be a way to kind of refute what Mark

957
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: was saying, because if you're not a good drafting team

958
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: in the first place, being rewarded is not going to

959
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: be the reward that it might be for some other

960
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: team because you're an inept drafting club. Hey, the Jets

961
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: have had three swings, now, perfect example. How's that gone?

962
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? And the Browns can how to you know,

963
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: be an example of that as well, maybe to a

964
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: lesser degree, but still in all they've had their swings

965
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: and missus as well. We have to take a break

966
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: here because when we come back, we're going to be

967
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: joined by CBS Sports Senior NFL writer Will Brinson, who

968
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: had some takes on the Bills in their postseason run,

969
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: among other things going on in the National Football League.

970
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: Will check in with him next here on one Bill's Line,

971
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida elf It's Buffalo Bill's Radio had a

972
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind

973
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role players

974
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even in

975
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: the stratgere of normalcy, all right. Our number two here

976
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: on a Thursday, Chris Brown, fab Brown with you and

977
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: pleased to be joined now by a CBS Sports senior

978
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: NFL writer and co host of the Pick six podcast.

979
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: It is Will Brinson joining us here on the show. Will,

980
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time. Number one, uh, Number two

981
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Brian Flores Holy mackerel Um a seismic lawsuit with allegations

982
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: that I think are I don't know if you're how

983
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: familiar you are with like phone gifts and stuff, but

984
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: there is one with SpongeBob and Patrick the Starfish running

985
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: around with their hands over their head. And that's how

986
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: I kind of pictured things at the NFL office yesterday. Um,

987
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: after the lawsuit or the gift of is it the

988
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: Lanister kid when he just opens up the window and

989
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: steps out there, like I don't want to deal with this.

990
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, what a and I mean god, I mean,

991
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: I didn't. You know, I've been covering the league for

992
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: a decade plus and I've seen a lot of bizarre

993
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: stuff and you know, weird outcomes. But like a coach

994
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: who just got fired, by the way, the coach who

995
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: swept Belichick in the and and nearly went to the

996
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: playoffs and had two winning seasons for the Dolphins gets

997
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: fired by the team and then sues the NFL three

998
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: teams by name, twenty nine John Doe teams, and he's

999
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: and he's still interviewing with some of the teams. He's

1000
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: suing anonymously and alleging, you know, racism in the hiring practice.

1001
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: There's a racial discrimination, however you won phrase it. And

1002
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: then the but like the real bomb is that he

1003
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: says that Stephen Ross is you know because I mean,

1004
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't think the fact that you know,

1005
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: the hiring practices or a problem is necessarily like a

1006
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: shock to anybody, But it is pretty shocking to allege

1007
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: that an NFL owner tried to pay him one hundred

1008
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: grand per game for each game he lost in order

1009
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: to tank for the number one pick, which, oh, by

1010
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: the way, ended up being Joe Burrow, who's in the

1011
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in two weeks. I mean, insane? Will do

1012
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: Do you think the timing of this is intentional? Be

1013
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: like you said, Brian Flores is still out there interviewing,

1014
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he could have theoretically maybe even

1015
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: gotten himself a job and then dropped this later on.

1016
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: But obviously now you file this now, and Roger Goodell

1017
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: is gonna have the deal that sometime next week during

1018
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: his State of the League press conference. It seems to

1019
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: me like that this is not an accident. The timing

1020
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: of when Brian Flores made this public, I would get,

1021
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and this is just me speculating, and I

1022
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: don't I don't know for certain, but I would I

1023
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: think that it was probably intentional that it was on

1024
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: February first, which is the beginning of Black History Month,

1025
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: that you know, that sent a message, And certainly I

1026
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: think amplified the discussion about a big topic that would

1027
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: have been you know, discussed anyway. Um. And I would

1028
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: also guess that there was probably some frustration from Brian

1029
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Flores in general. You know, we saw these these text

1030
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: messages from from yeah thanks Bill, from Bill Belichick. You know,

1031
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: I f this one up BD. You know, UM, we

1032
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: saw those, so you know that he's certainly frustrated about

1033
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: doing this. You know, I mean if we talked about

1034
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: these nine hour interviews, you know, he went and does

1035
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: this linked the interview with the Giants and then finds

1036
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: out that they'd already hired Brian or already planning on

1037
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: hire Brian Dable. I'd be I'd be frustrated by that.

1038
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: I would guess that there's some you know, I've been

1039
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: who knows what's happening with the Texans job. He probably

1040
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: thought he was in the mix, or probably thinks he

1041
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: might be in the mix for that, and the same

1042
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: thing with the Saints job. You know, we could end

1043
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: up seeing you know, Dennis Allen, uh, you know, go

1044
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: go for this. I would guess at the frustration of

1045
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: these that the frustration built up by the hiring or

1046
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: the the the employment process sort of led to it

1047
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and then I were just talking about

1048
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: this Will. But it seems to me that he is

1049
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: lumping the Dolphins in as part of the hiring practice

1050
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: issue because of how he felt he was treated as

1051
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: a quote angry black man after he refused to comply

1052
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: with one hundred thousand dollars bribe per game and alleged

1053
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: tampering with a potential free agent quarterback who was not

1054
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: yet a free agent. I think that they're two separate things, though,

1055
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he should have I'm not going to tell

1056
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: him how to file lawsuits. Far be it from me.

1057
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: I'm not an attorney, and I'm not even gonna play

1058
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: one on the radio. But one seems to be a

1059
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: moral compass issue and the other is obviously the hiring

1060
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: practice issue. He lumped it all together into one lawsuit.

1061
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm kind of perplexed by that. Well, and as a look,

1062
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm a former certified paralegal, so I am, you know,

1063
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: I am. Technically he's quasi certainly more qualified than me,

1064
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: and that are yeah, that's right. No, I mean, I

1065
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think that it is interesting because

1066
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Dolphins hired him, so it's it's kind

1067
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: of odd to sue the Dolphins for racial discrimination and

1068
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: hiring practice is considering that they hired him, you know,

1069
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: and and look, I'm a middle ash white guy. I'm

1070
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: not gonna be out here, you know, telling people what

1071
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: you know, what qualifies and what doesn't qualify as something

1072
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: it would be specifically racist. But I agree with you

1073
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: that the two the allegations against the Dolphins are seemed

1074
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: to be separate. However, I would posit that if I

1075
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: were someone or less hypothetical, if I were employed by

1076
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: somebody and they had tried to bribe me to lose

1077
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: football games and then they fired me, I would have

1078
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: invested interest in that information becoming public. And if the

1079
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: vehicle for that becoming public happened to be a extremely

1080
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: high profile lawsuit against the entire National Football League and

1081
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: multiple NFL teams, and that could end up, you know,

1082
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: with repercussions against the person who fired me, that would

1083
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: be a hypothet Like that hypothetical scenario would definitely run

1084
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: through my head and potentially be part of the process

1085
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: that I engaged in. If you know what I'm saying, like,

1086
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: there's there's going to be blowback if because the NFL

1087
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: is is going to investigate this? And I think it was.

1088
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: Cameron Wolfe on NFL Network or NFL Media on Wednesday

1089
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: afternoon to Wednesday evening said that he talked to somebody

1090
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: who was a witness to Stephen Ross saying this, and

1091
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: that Brian Flores has multiple witnesses who heard Stephen Rows

1092
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: say this. Now, we don't know if he's like, I'd

1093
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: give you a hundred grand for you know, every game

1094
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: you lose, Like is he joking? And he specifically offered

1095
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: this pride like you know what, what was it that

1096
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: was said? How was it said? Etc. But if it

1097
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: was said in any sort of serious fashion and the

1098
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: NFL finds out about it, there's going to be massive

1099
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: blowback for Stephen Ross here, ranging somewhere between a huge

1100
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: fine and potentially if the league were to find out

1101
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: that it. You know that this these actions dramatically impacted

1102
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: the integrity of the game. You know. But I mean,

1103
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: I think I think it ranges as high as forcing

1104
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: him to sell the team. I don't know that that's likely,

1105
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: but I would. I mean, I just envisioned it easily,

1106
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: like give us your your you're any draft picks you

1107
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: have in twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. They

1108
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: are they don't exist anymore. They're they're they're going you

1109
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: will you talk about the fact that part of this

1110
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: lawsuit might be simply to just air dirty laundry from

1111
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: the team that fired you, because you're better but a

1112
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: little bit and to the point where the timing of

1113
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: this was February first, the beginning of Black History Month.

1114
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Going forward, in terms of the effect, it's likely that

1115
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: the bigger effect is gonna be about the bribery and

1116
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross than what the larger goal of this lawsuit

1117
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: is purported to be, which is to improve minority hiring practices.

1118
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: A so two part question, A will that will anything

1119
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: change with minority hiring? And be how unfortunate is it

1120
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: that the number one goal is probably gonna be lost

1121
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: when we talk about the actual fall off from this lawsuit. Yeah,

1122
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's sort of the I mean, that's just

1123
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: the nature of and that's if if indeed that was

1124
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: Brian Flores's motivation. And I mean, I honestly I have

1125
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: a hard time believing there wasn't part of that motivation

1126
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: to get back at the guy who fired you. If

1127
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: that was part of the motivation, then yes, it will,

1128
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: just inherently that's going to create some distraction from the

1129
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: main point of the lawsuit, which is to impact the

1130
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: hiring practices. I don't know. I honestly don't know what

1131
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: the impact will be for the NFL, because I mean,

1132
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree that the Rooney Rule

1133
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: is good in theory and in an idea, um in practice,

1134
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: A lot of times the Rooney Rule creates situations where

1135
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: and you've heard of you know, you've heard coaches and

1136
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: reporters talk about this where you know, someone is brought

1137
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: in for an interview to check a box and that's unfortunate.

1138
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: You know, you don't that's not what you want. You

1139
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: don't want people being like you know, you don't want

1140
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: the first team a team fires its coach right and says,

1141
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: oh man, you know who we love to have is

1142
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: like Jim Harball, But we have to interview a minority first,

1143
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: all right, Like who you're like, who can we interview?

1144
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: Who can we bring in to check this box? That

1145
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: is that that's really against the spirit of the Rooney Rule.

1146
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's what the NFL needs to figure out,

1147
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: is how do we how do we take the Rooney

1148
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: Rule in the idea that we want to give more

1149
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: opportunities to minorities in terms of coaching opportunities, how do

1150
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: we put into practice something that will enact the spirit

1151
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: of the Rooney Rule without just creating this sort of checklist.

1152
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: And that's and that's a really difficult thing to figure out.

1153
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: I tend to believe. Yeah, and then, as you mentioned,

1154
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: Flores is still a candidate for the Saints job, in

1155
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: the Texans job. I saw Josina Anderson and Aaron Wilson,

1156
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: who covers the Texans, both report he's a finalist, one

1157
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: of three finalists. And I heard Brian Flores on one

1158
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: of the national interviews yesterday say he contacted the Saints

1159
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: and the Texans and said, hey, I still want to coach,

1160
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: and if you even hire me the lawsuits proceeding, I'm

1161
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: not dropping it. If you guys hire me in a

1162
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's about I will be doing you in

1163
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: a few hours, that's right, Like you am? I am

1164
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: I the only one shaking my head here, like does

1165
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: this guy really think he's going to be a serious

1166
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: consideration for these teams? And then of course that is

1167
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: bringing up the point, well, you know, this could be

1168
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: an opportunity here for the league to kind of turn

1169
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: this thing on its ear, get him hired, and then

1170
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: where are we going there? It's yeah, it's pretty crazy.

1171
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean I do think, and again only at only

1172
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: a formerly certified paralegal, not an attorney, but I do

1173
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: think that with the way that this lawsuit operates, if

1174
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: there was that the settlement would probably be from either

1175
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: the NFL or you know, via the name teams involved

1176
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: versus the John Doe team. I didn't know you could

1177
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: do a John dough for a corporation, which is kind

1178
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: of fascinating, but um, you know, I don't think like

1179
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna have to you know, any it's

1180
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna come out of the NFL coffers more than likely. Uh.

1181
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: And then the NFL will have you have to do

1182
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: like a global settlement agreement with all the parties. But

1183
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: I would think, because you know, you have Brian Flores

1184
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: is one party and then anyone who potentially joins him

1185
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: and a huge action has talked about that. But then

1186
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: on the defendant side you would have the NFL, would

1187
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, say here's what the settlement is going to be,

1188
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: and then we're going to enact this, you know, Uh,

1189
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: we'll handle getting the money from the defendants ourselves, if

1190
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So like most of it would flow

1191
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: through the NFL. So I in theory, even though Brian

1192
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: Flores says this going on, it wouldn't impact the Saints

1193
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: from a or the Texans from a legal or financial perspective. Uh.

1194
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: You know, media wise, if you hire the guy who's

1195
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: suing you, you are going to have to answer some questions.

1196
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: It's got to be unprecedented. Thank yeah, Oh yeah, I

1197
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: mean it's like, what's the closest thing we've got is

1198
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: like Hal Davis suing the NFL. Of course they quarterback

1199
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: to not play for them all year, So far be

1200
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: it from me to you know, question the Texans and

1201
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: their actions. They run run by a preacher and uh

1202
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: it have you've seen that that old stage Rosenfell's uh

1203
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: story about how he's he's he's walking down the hallway

1204
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: and he sees David Carr and he's like, David cars like, yeah,

1205
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: I just met with Cal McNair, you know now, the owner.

1206
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, how's Cal. He's like, yeah, I don't,

1207
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean I walked into walked in his office and

1208
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: there's no like desk or chair. It's just a couch

1209
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: and a TV and an Xbox, And I just think

1210
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: he's just sitting there play. Yeah, It's like, all right, cool,

1211
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: that's the managing the owner there. Good good work. All right. Well,

1212
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: let's let's pick your brain a little bit on some

1213
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: more football related stuff. What was your reaction to the

1214
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: shuffling of Bill's offensive coaches this past week Brian Dabele out,

1215
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson offensive line coach out, Ken Dorsey promoted, and

1216
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: uh Joe Brady coming in to uh be the quarterbacks coach. Well,

1217
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: I thought one of the really interesting things about the

1218
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: Giants hires both uh Joe Shane and and with Brian

1219
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: Dable is that, Yeah, because I'm in I'm in North Carolina.

1220
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: You know, we saw the you know, Sean McDermott did

1221
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: an incredible job as the Panthers defensive coordinator, and you

1222
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: know Brandon being longtime personnel guy with with the pan

1223
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: as well. You know, I thought it was I I

1224
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: personally thought it was very smart of the way that

1225
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: they handled the move to Buffalo, where you you you know,

1226
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: you have a coach and a GM who have worked

1227
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: together before and have a good rapport and know each other.

1228
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: And so when Joe Shane goes to New York, you know,

1229
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: was it the first He's like, it's like the Giants

1230
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: are like, we're conducting our first interview with the head

1231
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: coach in candidate. It's like he's like, he just walked

1232
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: on the hall. I had interviewed this guy. But I

1233
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: think there is, you know, the way that the way

1234
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: that the you know, the Bills got back to national

1235
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: prominence and got to this spot where they have this

1236
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: really well built out roster that is, you know, deep

1237
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: across the board, you have an elite quarterback. But they

1238
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: they did it in such a smart way, you know,

1239
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: building up the offensive line, getting some weapons, and then

1240
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: you dropped this quarterback in this sort of ecosystem that

1241
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: allows him to develop properly. It's the opposite of what

1242
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: the Giants have tried to do with Daniel Jones, which

1243
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: was draft a quarterback, throw him in a half of situay.

1244
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: The same thing with the Jets too, by the way,

1245
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: and like and then let's try and like toss some

1246
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: stuff around him and hope that it works out. And

1247
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: so I think that, you know, the hiring of of

1248
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: of Joe and Brian to New York is smart from

1249
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: the Giant's perspective, in the sense that it in theory

1250
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: they will try to operate the same way there as

1251
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: far as you know the bills go. The same sort

1252
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: of principle applies, right you have you don't want to

1253
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: lose your offensive coordinator. I mean, he's done a great

1254
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: job calling, plays great job developing Josh Allen. But when

1255
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: you build that infrastructure in place in a slow and

1256
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: steady manner, and you and you, you know it doesn't

1257
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: need to be splashy free agent signage. You know, it's

1258
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: it's it's built with a purpose, like the culture of

1259
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: the locker room. You know. That's why you have all

1260
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: these guys from Carolina who are brought up to Buffalo.

1261
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's like Carolina North because they know the

1262
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: guys that they're bringing in. And I think when you

1263
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: build it like that, it enables you to move coaches

1264
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: around a little bit in an easier fashion, with less

1265
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: sort of speed bumps across the board. And I think,

1266
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: Dors you know what I mean, which you know by

1267
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: the way, it's it's it. I feel older and older

1268
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: every day because you're like you know, it's like like

1269
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, Demika rides and defensive coordinator right to your

1270
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: head coach, like you know Ken, I mean, and Dorsey's

1271
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: been around forever. But like I think that I think

1272
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are in a good spot is

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, based on, you know, the sort of

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Speaker 1: consistency and continuity that they have across that coaching staff. Well,

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Speaker 1: we had that conversation earlier about feeling old about Yeah,

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Speaker 1: guys that we've known for a long time suddenly being

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Speaker 1: coaches and coordinators and and yes, so we're right there

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Speaker 1: with you with that thought. Yeah, it's like so they

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Speaker 1: interviewed Hinz warn and that's like, yeah, I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to hear that. I'd need to hear that one. Thanks

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Speaker 1: the I mean we got we got Antoin Winfield junior

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Speaker 1: or Sante Samuel Junior. I mean, yeah, the old is

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Speaker 1: dirt now. Yeah. And then last one I've got for

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Speaker 1: you will is just with respect to the Super Bowl, like,

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Speaker 1: just give us your early thoughts on it. I mean

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Speaker 1: we've seen I mean, this defensive line for the Rams

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Speaker 1: looks intimidating in terms of knowing how much the Bengals

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Speaker 1: offensive line is struggled, but Joe Burrow gets nine ten

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Speaker 1: times a game and it just doesn't matter. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious what your what your outlook on this thing is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I tweeted this out like kind of jokingly

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Speaker 1: but sort of seriously. It's like, you know, the Rams

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Speaker 1: have of you know better. You know, they're better on

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Speaker 1: the offense, they're better on defense, they have you know,

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Speaker 1: more superstars. They haven't field avantage, they have a coaching

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Speaker 1: staff advantage, they have Super Bowl experience advantage. And then

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Speaker 1: it's like counterpoint and just a picture of Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: and that's sort of like like, you know, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: these glasses just like whatever, I don't care. I just

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Speaker 1: win games. Um, like if it were any other quarterback

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Speaker 1: other than Joe or not any other quarterback, but like

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Speaker 1: someone who just just had like Joe Burgess has this

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Speaker 1: killer instinct and just wins these big games. And that's

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Speaker 1: I like the Rams in the game. I think that

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Speaker 1: that that offensive line for the Bengals. You know, we

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Speaker 1: saw Max Crosby got all over them in the first round,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the Titans sacked in nine times in

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Speaker 1: the second round, Uh, and then of course the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: You know that that famous player where Burrows slips out

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Speaker 1: of Chris Owns and takes off. I mean the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: roll over him. None of those teams had Von Miller

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Donalds. I mean that is a problem. And

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Speaker 1: von Miller has performed. I mean, excuse, Aaron Donald's played

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Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl just a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: and Von Miller's a former Super Bowl MVP. Like, these

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna show up on the biggest stage and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are just gonna have to figure out what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's maybe maybe the offensive line

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Speaker 1: steps up in a huge way and just plays really well,

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Speaker 1: or maybe there's some you know, sort of I know

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Speaker 1: they tried, you know, against Kansas City, they try to

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Speaker 1: trying to screen him to death to try and mitigate

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Speaker 1: the pressure. I don't know that that works against this

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Speaker 1: Rams team. I think the defensive line is just too much,

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Speaker 1: and offensively, the Rams just have too many weapons to

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Speaker 1: slow down. So I just unless Joe Burr just goes superhuman,

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Speaker 1: I can't I don't see how the Rams don't win

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Speaker 1: the game. I know there are a lot of brand

1329
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Speaker 1: new betters up here, in New York State and other

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Speaker 1: online gambling is legal. Will you've been dialed in in

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01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs? I think with something like what ten and

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Speaker 1: two playoff games terms of like a best bet, any

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Speaker 1: any plays, any props that you like, and to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking for a friend named Fad Brown to see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I like the under a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: look at these two teams and first half under as well.

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Speaker 1: The you know, you look at what these teams do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what Tony Romo, how many times did he

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: say stop running on first down during the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: game with the Bengals offense. I mean, they're gonna run

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Speaker 1: on first down. They're not going to suddenly change that

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Speaker 1: and start cranking up the pass rate. I don't think

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: the Rams as well. I mean Sean McVay loves to

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Speaker 1: run the ball in the second half when he has

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Speaker 1: a lead. We saw it almost bide him in the

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Speaker 1: in the butt against Tampa Bay. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: when you when you look at the aggressiveness of these coaches,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty low. You know. I think if you have

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: a fourth and two, fourth and three at midfield, they're

1350
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 1: pumping fourth and two, fourth, and three in the red zone,

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: they're kicking the field goal. You know, Zach Taylor, I

1352
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: would expect isn't coming out with some crazy kookie game plan.

1353
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: Who's going up against this old boss. I think you're

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01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: going to try and be methodical. I think both teams

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Speaker 1: will early on, and so I love the first half under,

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Speaker 1: love the full game under, you know, as low as

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: anything above forty eight is fine. I think, uh, and

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Speaker 1: then I got the and then I think you parlate

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Speaker 1: with the Rams money line. I like the Rams against

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Speaker 1: the spread first half under, and uh, Cooper Cup and

1361
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham overs if you're if you're betting all props,

1362
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: and of course obviously tails never fails. There you go

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01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: just tell Josh Allen, um, God, sorry, I didn't have

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Speaker 1: a man. Well he always calls that was not a

1365
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: that was not a Bills Chiefs joke. I'm sorry, No,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Josh Allen. I actually think that the

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Speaker 1: um that the Bengals called heads because Josh Allen had

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Speaker 1: called tails the week before, because everyone knows your tails

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Speaker 1: never fails. You always your tails. And I think the

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Speaker 1: Bengals are like, if you get out there in Arrowhead

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Speaker 1: and it's over time. We are calling heads. You saw

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Speaker 1: it having last week like this is thick. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: have it pop up heads. I love averages, right, Will, Thanks,

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Speaker 1: has always appreciate the time. Enjoy the Super Bowl. Will

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Speaker 1: catch you up with you down the line. Hey, sounds great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks having me all right? That CBS Sports seen your

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: NFL writer Will Brenton, joining us here also co hosted

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Speaker 1: the Pick six podcast. We will take a break, but

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Speaker 1: be back with more in a second, including your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: Next here on one Bills Live, presented by Klota Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, third Brown with you here on

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Speaker 1: a Thursday, and gonna be joined now by our Bills

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Speaker 1: multimedia reporter Mandy Glab who's joining us from what looks

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Speaker 1: like Sonny, Las Vegas side of the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. It's a busy week out there, many They

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Speaker 1: got the NHL people out there too. What's up, guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's so much crossover this weekend with the NFL and

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Speaker 1: the NHL. It feels like it's kind of crazy just

1390
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: knowing that the same AMers played here on Tuesday night.

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Speaker 1: Then you have Pro Bowl practices on Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You have the NHL All Star Game on Saturday, and

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: then you have the Pro Bowl on Sunday. So there's

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Speaker 1: quite a lot of overlap this weekend between the two sports.

1395
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: And of course we have Rasmuss Allen here for the

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01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: All Star Game, so we're gonna try and get Dion

1397
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: Dawkins out to one of the skills challenges tomorrow to

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: do a little bit of one Buffalo crossover. So we're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. But the first practice just wrapped

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Speaker 1: up here at Las Vegas Ballpark. It's a minor league

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01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: baseball stadium that's an affiliate for the Oakland A's. So yeah,

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: it's sunny here. I am wearing a jacket. As you

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: can see. It started in the thirties this morning, I

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: think it's finally up to the forties now, so definitely avoided.

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Speaker 1: Just know that you guys all have right now, Mattie.

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Speaker 1: What is Pro Bowl practice like? I mean, we've all

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Speaker 1: gone to a thousand regular other season training camp practices.

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Speaker 1: They're hard things with important goals to be achieved. What's

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl practice like? Because I gotta imagine it's

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01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: a whole lot different. There are no hard things to

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Speaker 1: achieve at a Pro Bowl practice. Honestly, I would throw

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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: the name walk through on this type of practice, but

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01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I can call it a

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: walkthrough at that. It's just guys messing around, having fun

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: with each other. They go through a couple of drills,

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01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: they stretch in the beginning, and then at the end

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Speaker 1: of practice, Mike Rabel grabbed everybody from the AFC and

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01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: talk to them a little bit to end practice. But

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Speaker 1: it's a free for all over here. The guys are

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: just really here to enjoy the time, enjoy being named

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, and have some fun with guys

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01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: that they don't get to see quite often. Now. I

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 1: know we already have Ken Dorsey promoted to offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: You've got two offensive players there, Maddie. What is their

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: feedback on Ken Dorsey getting that promotion? Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: great feedback. I asked Stefan Diggs about it when we

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01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: got to see him earlier today before practice started. He said,

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01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good fit because he's a good coach.

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Speaker 1: He's somebody that we all respect. He's someone that is

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01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: really good around Josh. He's also a coach that takes

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01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: the time to get to know his offense instead of

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Speaker 1: just his quarterbacks. He said he loves to mess around

1433
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: with Ken Dorsey. He sent him a text message as

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: soon as he found out that he was going to

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: be named offensive coordinator, and he said he's really excited

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: for how Ken Dorsey can help move along this offense

1437
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And Dean Hawkins said the same thing.

1438
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,919
Speaker 1: He said, it's a seamless transition. This guy's the perfect

1439
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: fit for the job. He is Josh's whisperer. He knows

1440
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen better than anybody on this team in terms

1441
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: of coaches. And he just said he can't wait for

1442
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: him to start in that role. So a bunch of

1443
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: great reviews here from Las Vegas about Ken Dorsey being

1444
01:13:55,040 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: named the offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. Maddie Old

1445
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: skills competition is tonight, correct, And I think Stefan Diggs

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01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: among the guys who'll be participating in something. What's the

1447
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: excitement level for that? And I mean, I'm sure it's

1448
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: like you said, it's kind of just guys messing around

1449
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: in general, but you know, there is some competition happening

1450
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: tonight in an opportunity, you know, maybe even more so

1451
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: than the game for a guy to stand out at

1452
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 1: that stage. Yeah, definitely, there's a lot of excitement around that,

1453
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: just because it's an opportunity for guys to even mess

1454
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: around a little bit more than they can outside of

1455
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: the realm of practices here for the three days that

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01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,919
Speaker 1: they have practice and then the game. And it actually

1457
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: happened yesterday and it's being aired tonight, so we kind

1458
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: of got a sneak speak at it. Stefan Diggs is

1459
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: obviously competing in the Best Catch Challenge with Justin Jefferson,

1460
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: and I've got to say Bill's Mafia needs to watch

1461
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: out because Stefan Diggs have quite a Bill's Mafia esque

1462
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: catch in the challenge. It's pretty funny what he does.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll definitely look forward to that, and

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: we thank you Maddie for checking in and bringing us

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: up to speed on the goings on out there in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. And uh, you know, if you if you can,

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Speaker 1: if you can somehow worchestrate the Dion Dawkins Ross ms

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: Dalen turn, you know, multi sport thing, we'll be definitely

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Speaker 1: tipping our hat to you here on the show tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: So good luck with this, yep. If we're gonna try

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Speaker 1: and make it happen, these guys are also trying to

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Speaker 1: enjoy their time out here, so you know how it goes.

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it wasn't everywhere at the same time. So

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: we'll see if we can make it happen. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it though. All right, appreciate the time, Maddie.

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: Good luck, enjoy yourself out there. We'll catch up with

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow, all right, see you guys later, have a

1478
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: good show. All right. That's Bills Multimedia reporter Maddie Glab

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Speaker 1: from Las Vegas covering the goings on at the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Is Deon Dawkins and Stefan Diggs are out there. We

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Speaker 1: do want to get back to the phones at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty top of a conversation today in terms

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Speaker 1: of the Twitter conversation, should the NFL adopt a draft

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01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: lottery system? But we go back to the phones and

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Speaker 1: Ed in Rochester is there waiting? What do you have

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Speaker 1: for us? Head? You're on one Bill's Live. Thanks Chris uh,

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01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: longtime viewer, first time caller. I appreciate that compliment and

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Speaker 1: a great show coming from Routers Drive. Always enjoyed thay

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Speaker 1: At also doing a great job as a co host.

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Speaker 1: But thanks. I just wanted her to make a comment

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Speaker 1: about about Brian Flars sure making this with the lawsuit?

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: What we know all this information if he was hired

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: by an NFL team as a head coach. I cannot

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: doubt if we'd know anything that in the lawsuit if

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01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: he were hired. What's your feeling about bad? Do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Does you mean does the suit go away if he

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Speaker 1: gets hired as a head coach? What we even know

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01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: about the suit if he was hired. Oh, I see

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. What do you have filed? Um? Yeah, yeah,

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: maybe not if he gets I gets the Giants did. Yeah.

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01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: I think you know, I think that Steve Um Chris

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01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier that you know, some of this

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: has been triggered by you know, what happened with the

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01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: Giants and certainly what happened with the Dolphins. So you know,

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01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: although I think there are a lot of altruistic and

1507
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, very laudable and goals that I hope are

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: achieved that were um, you know, created with this lawsuit,

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: in mind. I think there's a big chunk of it

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: where it's just a guy who's who's mad about the

1511
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: way things have gone. I mean, look, we've all had

1512
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: jobs and careers and things that have happened where you

1513
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: just get frustrated, and this is how he's handling it.

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: And again, you know, hopefully there are a lot of

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: outcomes and a lot of things that he's trying to

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: accomplish that will be accomplished. But um, you know, like

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01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: like you're asking, you know, if he didn't if he

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01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: gets the job, if he doesn't get the Bill Belichick text, obviously,

1519
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: if the things in Minami don't happen, you know, then

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01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: they we're not talking about this right now. Yeah, So

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01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: good point, valid question. Um, Yeah, I agree. I think

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01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: if he gets the job, he probably doesn't feel like

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: he's got an axe to grind, much less a leg

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: to stand on, because he's gotten two head coaching jobs

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: himself in the last four years. So yeah, I think

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01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: it would certainly reduce the validity of the case he

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: believes that he has. Back to the phones though, and

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: to Dan in Tampa, Nex, Dan, what do you have

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: for us? You're all one Bill's life. Hey, Chris say that. Yeah,

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01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: my feelings just simply are just that I'm with you, man,

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01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: just leave the draftway it is. I don't believe in

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: a lottery. I don't agree with it. This is like

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01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: isolated incidences that we're not talking about stuff that's going

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01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: on on a regular basis like in some of the

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01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: other four major sports. So I just don't see what's

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01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: the validity of doing that. And besides pitch and you know, Chris,

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna be in the twenties or thirties for the

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: next several years with being to McDermott, right, So not

1539
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: really worried about It's it's not an issue for us,

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01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I get what you're saying,

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01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: but you have to I know, and I know Dan,

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: sometimes we live in this world of Bill's myopia. But

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01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: if the competitive integrity of the league is at issue here,

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01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: the league has no choice but to address it on

1545
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: many levels. You know, this draft lottery thing that Thad

1546
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: and I are talking about today is only one brick

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01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: in the wall in terms of what they would have

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: to do to address a threat to the competitive nature

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01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: and integrity of the game. I mean, I was telling

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Speaker 1: Steve this yesterday, Thad, the sentence that comes out of

1551
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's mouth maybe more than any other, is the

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01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: integrity of the game. He I mean, he says that sentence,

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: maybe more than anything else. So that is at the

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01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: core at least I believe as far as the league

1555
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: is concerned as to the biggest threat in this lawsuit,

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 1: hiring practices are important. They probably are of utmost importance

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 1: to Brian Flores, but by lumping in the allegations levied

1558
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: against his former owner Stephen Ross, that zooming right to

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01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: the top of the list for the league because it

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01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 1: threatens the very fabric and money making opportunity that these

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Speaker 1: thirty two owners have each and every week in the

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Speaker 1: football season. And Dan said that, I think he said

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Speaker 1: that he thought I was not in favor of the lottery,

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, three days ago, I really wasn't.

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01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: I thought the draft was fine as is. But because

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01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: of the things that have come to light, the league

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: is going to have to act. And your one brick

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01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: in the wall point is spot on. I mean, this

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: is just the beginning of what they need to do

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01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: in order to, you know, reel in whatever questions about

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01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: the game's integrity have been raised. So at this point,

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Speaker 1: you know, three days ago, I didn't need a lottery.

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01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: Now I think it has to happen, and you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever former wants to take. I kind of like your

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01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: tier idea. The more I think about it, I'm fine

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01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, let's go back to the phones. We

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01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: go to Jackson in Rochester. Thad's pulling in all the

1578
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: Rochester callers today. I love this what we got Jackson day.

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01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: How are you doing? First of all a comment and

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01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: then a question, I mean, goodell talking about the integrity

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01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: of the league. Then why is there replay aff will

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01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: never shown? Is he's sitting in Vegas somewhere? Is what

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01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: I always wondered about this replay call. Okay, see how

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: Vegas wants to call? To go anyhow? If you're Brian

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: Dable and you do not get a head coaching job

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01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: based on thirteen seconds of Kansas City after the offense

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01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: did everything they could do and the defense let you down,

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01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: do you pack your bags and you go anyhow? And

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01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: if you're Brandon Bean, what was the discussion with your

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01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball in his office after that

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01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,839
Speaker 1: Kansas City game? Thank you? Yeah? All right, good call Jackson.

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01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: The first one. I don't know if you're ever gonna

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01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: see the booth guy. First of all, I don't even

1594
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: know if the television networks have a camera angle that

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01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: could get that guy, you know, the guy that's on site,

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01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: let alone the people. But oh, you got a good

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01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: you can have a good shot at it in terms

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: of I mean, look, there's cameras. If they can put

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Speaker 1: cameras on the field in the end zone pylon, they

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01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to put up the cameras well.

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01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: They could figure out a way. I'm just wondering if

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01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: they want to. You know, it wouldn't be the worst

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01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: thing in the world. I mean, I know, the what

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01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: the XFL or the whatever flor one of the recent

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01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: leagues did have a camera even had the guy miked up,

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: So it's not the worst thing in the world for transparency.

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: I think one of the things too that happened this

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01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: year is, you know, there were some replays that weren't

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01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: even challenged or or you know, like stop the game

1610
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: to you know, let's review this. The guy just buzzed

1611
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: down essentially a sky judge fashion said no that you

1612
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 1: got this wrong. To do this so I don't know

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01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: if even I have any camera, would you be worth

1614
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: it there? You know, in terms of the other things

1615
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: they call a raised, you know, I don't think you know,

1616
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: Brian Dable's job is going to be dependent on, you know,

1617
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: what the defense does. You know, anybody's gonna hire him

1618
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 1: is going to look at what the offense did in

1619
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: that game. And you know, essentially, once Josh Allen threw

1620
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: that last touchdown pass, then Brian Dable's resume is completed.

1621
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: Whatever happened after that is irrelevant. So I don't think

1622
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: it would have mattered to him at all. And and yeah,

1623
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: I mean look at the conversations with the defensive staff.

1624
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were some there's no one on that

1625
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: defense after that game they came out and said, no,

1626
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: we're fine, you got a problem with that game, But no,

1627
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean they understand there were issues in that game

1628
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: that need to be a dress going forward, right, And

1629
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: I think this is this is the kind of coaching

1630
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: staff and roster for that matter, where more often than not,

1631
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: the first thing they do is they look at themselves

1632
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 1: and what they could have done better. And I would,

1633
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: I would guarantee to a man they were doing that,

1634
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: and just to take it a step further with a

1635
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: camera on the booth. Guy. You know, you look at

1636
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: the professional soccer leagues they have they have cameras in

1637
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: that VAAR room, the video assisted replay they got those guys.

1638
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: The camera actually shoots from over their shoulder, so there's

1639
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: two people in the VAAR room. And then they have

1640
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: the screens where you can actually see what they're lining

1641
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: up with their little x X line and Y line

1642
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: to determine off sides or not or whatever the heck

1643
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: they're looking at there. So they're they're upfront and center

1644
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: with those professional soccer leagues too. You know, see what

1645
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: the va ARE officials, which are the equivalent of the

1646
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: replay officials in the league are specifically looking at. So

1647
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: no reason why they can't do it. Whether they do

1648
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: it is it's another question entirely. I don't think we'd

1649
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: reveal a whole lot either. You know, you to see

1650
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,520
Speaker 1: guys looking at TV screens, I mean we've seen that before. Yeah,

1651
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: there's there's better things to look at. Uh. Back to

1652
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: the phones though, and we go to Ryan in Lackawana.

1653
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: What do you have for us? Ryan? So just one

1654
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: quick question, I do like the lottery idea. My questions

1655
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: then how would it work you know with there? But

1656
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: I think there's one of the two this year that

1657
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: has like three top rapt choices or something in the

1658
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: first round. How does it work with trade and prior

1659
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: arrangements were like objects or whoever have the first seventh

1660
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: and pump pick, Like, how would that work in the lottery? Yeah,

1661
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, that's a really good question because you

1662
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: can't you can't put the ping pong ball in and

1663
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: say it's for this pick, and then it's also waited

1664
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: for this pick for the same team and it's waited

1665
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: for this pick. That's why I was suggesting a tiered

1666
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: system because it's very rare that a team has two

1667
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: picks in the top five, and so that's why I

1668
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: kind of want to tier it. Like one to five,

1669
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: that's its separate hopper over here, they're waited. However you

1670
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: want to wait them heavily or not so heavily. They

1671
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: go over here, and those five teams with the worst record,

1672
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: all of them will pick somewhere between one to five,

1673
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: and then you have a second hopper with six to

1674
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: ten and then eleven to eighteen. You just put them

1675
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: in order at that point, as far as I'm concerned,

1676
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: you don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole.

1677
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that's one way to kind of alleviate

1678
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: the concern that you brought up, Ryan. But that's a

1679
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: very good question because inevitably at some point in time,

1680
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: I guess that will come up. Yeah, And I think

1681
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: what they would do is no matter what who you've

1682
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: traded for. So the Jets owned the Seahawks pick. The

1683
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 1: Seahawks are tenth slot this year, and from the point

1684
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: of view doing a lottery, whatever the tenths lot would

1685
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: get waiting wise is what the Jets would get on

1686
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: that pick, in addition to what they already have waited

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Speaker 1: with the fourth pick. And why Chris's idea is good

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Speaker 1: is that you're preventing a situation where the Jets theoretically

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Speaker 1: could end up with picks one and two. You know,

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Speaker 1: now they with Chris's idea, they'd have one of the

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Speaker 1: picks between one through five and one of the picks

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Speaker 1: six through ten, and you're, you know, reducing the opportunity

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Speaker 1: for a team to totally dictate the draft. Although you

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01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: know in the NBA they've had another sixers have done

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01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 1: it a bunch of times. A team that's tanked a

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 1: lot have had, you know, multiple chances to be in

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Speaker 1: the top three or top five, you know, via the lottery.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really hard to make it happen. You'd have

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01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: to have not only a ton of luck, but a

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01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: season that goes perfectly your way. But it is certainly

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Speaker 1: something to consider. Yeah, break time for us here, than

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01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: and I will check a couple of your comments on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet as we close up this Thursday edition

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Speaker 1: And there are some interesting answers here. We only have

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01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: time to really get into one here, Thad. Some people

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01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: are saying, don't break it, it's not broke. Don't fix it,

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01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: it's not broken. But you have to address a bigger

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01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: issue here, which is the integrity of the game. As

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Speaker 1: Thad and I have discussed, but this one from Chris.

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01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 1: He says I'd be in favor of keeping the same

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Speaker 1: general format worst record to best for the draft, but

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01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 1: basing it on a three year rolling record, you would

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01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:39,440
Speaker 1: require a lot more pain to tank, weed out situations

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01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 1: like how Indie ended up with Andrew Luck and still

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01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: afford the truly bad teams a chance to get better.

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01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: That is some serious pain three year rolling average. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's a great idea, though, because I don't hate it.

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01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, like he says, it takes out the one

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01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: year where you got the good team like Indie was

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01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: that at just terrible injury luck and ended up with

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01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: the first pick. I mean, it does kind of dilute

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01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: the whole fairness idea. And although you know, now that

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Speaker 1: I think about it, I would not put it past

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01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: the ownership group to try and tank for three consecutive

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01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: years or two consecutives really to get a pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it would happen. Wow. I mean, like I said,

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01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: look at quarterback is everything. You know, if you if

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01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: you are bad, if you start out of year one

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01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: and seven and there's there's no one available in the draft,

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: that next year, it doesn't look very good, and you

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01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: know you end up two and fifteen. You go into

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01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: that next season thinking, well, I'm already ahead of all

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01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: the teams that won four and five games last year.

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01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: All I gotta do is go three and fourteen or

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01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: four and I think I think it would happened, But

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01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: I do I still like the idea, and I think

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01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: it's probably the better way to go to be on.

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01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: That is a heck of an investment, man, three year

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01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 1: investment to get to the top of the draft. Chris,

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01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm a six years fan, man, I'll tell you all

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01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: about long term tanking. Let me tell you now, I'm not.

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01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm not much better. I'm a Knicks fan. So there

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01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: you are, sad. Thanks for your help today. We'll catch

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01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: up with you again on Monday when you're gonna help

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01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: us again. So have a good weekend. We'll catch you

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Speaker 1: up with you then. Eric Wood, Yeah, Eric Wood, gonna

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01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: help me out tomorrow as Steve is still off, and

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Speaker 1: we'll also be joined by Chris Grpasso from CBS Sports.

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Speaker 1: Our podcast is also our latest episode of Bills by

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Speaker 1: the Numbers. Check your podcast platforms for that. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow at one