1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: What is up Straight Firefan, H's me Jason McIntyre, Straight 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: Bowyer for Thursday, March the twelfth. Oh, this is one 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: of the great days in college basketball for the season. 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: A lot of teams starting to get eliminated. You get 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: the better teams showing up in the Big Twelve, the ACC, 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: the Big East, the Big Ten. Oh, it's a glorious 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: day to celebrate that. We recorded this week with Seth Davis. 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: You've seen him on CBS forever. He's done Fox stuff. 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: He's been a fixture with the tournament. He's got some 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: hot takes regarding the tournament. And listen, these Duke injuries 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 2: are significant. I think Duke is vulnerable. I think it's 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: pretty clearly Michigan is the number one team now with 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: Duke losing two starters, one of them deaf, just had surgery. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: They're claiming maybe he could show up if they make 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: the final four. I'm like, what surgery? Come on? But 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: elsewhere in sports, Houston Rockets continue to free fall. They 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: get blitzed and I mean buried by the Denver Nuggets, 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: to the point that Houston Rockets fans are like damn 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: we cooked. Could Houston fall all the way into the 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: play in I don't, It's gonna be interesting. So the 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: Nuggets inch up toward the Lakers. Houston now is tied 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: with the Lakers for third Minnesota. Also on the struggle 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: bus of late, they are getting housed by the Clippers 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: as we record this down fifteen. They can't figure it out. 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: So the Lakers and the Rockets will be tied for 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: third Minnesota, and Denver will be tied for fifth five 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: and six, So it gets interesting. Lakers hosts the Bulls tonight. 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: There's now no room for error. If you're the Lakers 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: and you really want that three, you can't lose. You 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: can't lose to like the Chicago Bulls. There's no goofing 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: around here. So NBA it's weird in this month. There's 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: like a two or three week stretch where I only 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: have one eye on the NBA because the NCAA tournaments here. 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic is happening. Obviously that the USA gets 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: a stay of execution after the embarrassing loss to Italy. 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: They survive in advance because Italy trounces Mexico, so the 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: US advances that they I believe they play Canada next. 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: Canada baseball probably got some dudes. I still can't get 40 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: over to the Italy lost. But in other non professional 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: or college sports news, there are men's league teams going 42 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: to the championship. Yes, nine inch nails guy. Yeah, he 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: hasn't caught heat, but I did call him out on 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: the team thread after the win. We got a great win. 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: I guess our buddies listen friends with all those guys. 46 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: We got them two years ago, they got us, last year, 47 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: we got him this year. We'll see we're in the 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: final against Actually a guest, a former guest on this podcast, 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Sheldon Bailey, I met him out here in La playing hoops. 50 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: I mean he's huge, he's like six six, and I'm like, oh, 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: this guy definitely played. I think he played a Winthrop 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: I got, I forgot. I got to look it up. 53 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: But the more interesting thing is he's also an actor. 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: He was in an episode of bel Air. He was 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: the outdoor street baller playing against Will and he is 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Lebron's body double in all of Lebron's commercials. So if 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: Lebron has a sprite commercial, you guys don't have. The 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: commercial industry works you've got the body double stand in 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: who's getting all the lighting, the cameras, everything, you know, 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: and then Lebron just pumps in and quickly does the commercial. 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: And you know, this guy's on set all the time, 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: so obviously he's been around Lebron for many years. In addition, 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: they have two dudes who are real bouncy. The rest 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: of their team is not very good, but they have 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: three guys who can play. It should be a heated 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: game next week. And because I'm a lunatic and a maniac, 67 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm in another league which is it has a lot 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: of young guys and I'm not much of a factor, 69 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: but I love basketball. 70 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: What can I do? 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: So I it's just this is a tough month. Also, 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: my daughter coaching her. We're in the playoffs. There's a 73 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: local basketball tournament where you just get players and enter. 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: We did it last year and won. It was amazing. 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: We're trying to do it again this year. We just 76 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: signed up. Like there's just so March is the month 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: for basketball. And then you've got the Max Crosby stuff looming. 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: You got Trey Hendrickson going to Baltimore. This is just 79 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: a crazy time. Keep your head on a swivel, and 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: let's just hope that, as you see in the news, 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: you know, the US has to be prepared should any 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: crap come from Iran over here try to take out California. 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean, when you read those headlines, you're like, what 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: are we doing? Why? It is just frustrating. Can I 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: just enjoy my life out? Can I watch some basketball 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: in the month of March without having to worry about 87 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: us getting in World Wars? It's just I can't even 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: do the news now, so but you know what I 89 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: can do more March Madness chatter. Here's our interview with 90 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: Seth Davis, college basketball analyst. 91 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 92 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think 95 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. 96 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: I know what sports dance wants, but for. 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. Let's 98 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: who knows another guy. 100 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight fire. These guys 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: who knows everything about March banness He's been all over 102 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: the tournament for decades now. Seth Davis, who happens to 103 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: go to my gym. I see him there all the 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: time getting pumped. Seth, How you doing, man? 105 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I lift a lot less weight than 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: you do, but I too. It's all about showing up, bro, 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: It's all about showing up, and I don't I'm not competing 108 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: with anybody in that, Jim, I promise you that. 109 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: Do you have guys asking you for March Banness bracket tips? 110 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: Be honest. 111 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: I got a certain core group of guys like talking 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: to college It's funny like people I think sometimes when 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: they see me, you probably get this a lot, Like 114 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: they're kind of like reluctant to talk about whatever, like 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: reluctant Mash he talks about all the time. I'm like, oh, 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: I love talking ball, man, Believe me, I talk. I'd 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: rather talk about college basketball at dinner parties and most 118 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: of the stuff that I talk about. So yeah, it's 119 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: all good. 120 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it feels like this is one of 121 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: those years. Last year, the top I think top four, 122 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: top two seeds went sixteen and o to start and 123 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: only one two got balunced. I think with Saint John's 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: opening weekend, but I'm getting the same vibes from this 125 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: tournament said very top heavy, although I thought and I 126 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: was supposed to balance things out. 127 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually interesting because I've been having a dialogue 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: about that online and then I spoke earlier today with 129 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: this guy, Evan Miyakawa, who runs a site evanmea dot com. 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: Is a big analytics guy because everyone every year, all 131 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: the bubble is awful and this is the worst bubble ever, 132 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: and you know that it feeds into the expansion conversation. 133 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: And I'm one of the very very few who's been 134 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: arguing in favor of expansion. But that is that is, 135 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: that is the argument against about the bubble being quote 136 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: unquote week And so I just threw it out on Twitter, like, 137 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, analytics guys like you got to be able 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: to let's put some numbers to this, like is there 139 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: a way to quantify? So I guess his method was 140 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: to compare the bubble teams with like the top of 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: the the best teams in the country. I don't know 142 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: if that's the best way to do it, but he 143 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: knows better than I do, and by measuring that, he 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: came to the conclusion that this is the worst bubble 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: in the last fifteen years, and that three of the 146 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: worst four were in the last three years, so there 147 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: might be something happening. Although to your point, Jason, he 148 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: also found a widening gap between the best high major 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: schools and other power conference schools. So there's multiple things 150 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: going on. You know, people love to use these narratives. 151 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: And you know, listen, we had four number one seeds 152 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: make the Final four in two thousand and eight. You 153 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: know that was well before NIL and revshare and your point. 154 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: You know, in football, people look at the Indiana example 155 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: as something where the nil is leveling things out. So 156 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: there's a lot happening. People like what you mentioned about 157 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: the lack of upsets last year, but there are a 158 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: number of games that came down to the last possession 159 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: or two that could have gone either way. So what 160 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: if we have, like you know, to twelve seeds winning 161 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: this year, does that mean that nil is not you 162 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I go back to that there's 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: an expression, you know, what was the impact of the 164 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: French Revolution? It's too soon to tell. So I always say, 165 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's too soon to tell, let's let's 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: watch a play out. But I guarantee you if there's 167 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: a lack of upsets or of all four number one 168 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: seeds make the final four, people will want to blame 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: it on nil. I don't know if that means they 170 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: want to go back to the days when college athletes 171 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: didn't make money. Like, I don't know if you want 172 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: to do that again. So whatever your preconceived idea of 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: the way things should be, the events will feed into 174 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: that that way. 175 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, this hole did the nil kill the upset? Nonsense? 176 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: The problem is, you know, these guys pop and look 177 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: good and then boom they level up to you know, 178 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: where was the kid Dent playing last year? Was it 179 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: like New Mexico or something. 180 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: In New Mexico? Yeah, it was not much Player of 181 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: the Year. 182 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, now he jumps up to UCLA, you know, like 183 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: Indiana had all those stars pop a year ago. They 184 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: lose to Notre Dame in the college football playoffs, but 185 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: they're not going to Alabama. They're not leaving. They're building 186 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: something there. And then the next year they run rough 187 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: shot over every Really that doesn't happen in college. Who's 188 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: so it's weird You mentioned the bubble is kind of 189 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: weak seth. I don't for whatever reason, I have barely 190 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: paid attention to the bubble like the last like five years. 191 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: It just feels like it's so played out and people 192 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: only really care about the top. Nobody really cares. Oh man, 193 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 2: I can't believe Pitt got left out or like, it 194 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: just seems like nobody cares about the bubble. Is that 195 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: more of accurate or. 196 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: I don't know. In my world they care about the bubble. 197 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's a constant, h constant conversation who's in 198 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: who's out because it changes day to day, and you know, 199 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: unlike the college football process, which no one seems to understand, 200 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: you know, how teams pass each other week to week, 201 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: you know, even though they're still winning. In college basketball, 202 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: the NCAA and the and the selection committee have gone 203 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: over and beyond to be extremely transparent about the process. 204 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: In fact, just a couple of weeks ago, uh, they 205 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: hosted a bunch of us Jason in India at NCAA headquarters. 206 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: They put us on the computers. Now they did this 207 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: many years ago. They haven't done it in a while. 208 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: So I went out there and a lot of us, 209 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: you know, Jeff Goodman and Andy Katz and Matt Lord 210 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: Norlander and Jeff Borzello and you know, Evan Mea was there, 211 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: Joelnardi of course, and they put us through all of 212 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: the paces. So they're very transparent about about what that 213 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: process is. And it really it's an exciting time of year. 214 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: You know, you have this whole debate into conversation about Miami, Ohio. 215 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: Now they have basically rendered that move. They finished. 216 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, hold on, hold on, is that just 217 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: one guy, Bruce Pearl with the shoveling this nonsense. He 218 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: was the only person I saw with credibility saying that. 219 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: Well, I would say at this point it's kind of 220 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: a mood point, but you know, as of a couple 221 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: of weeks ago. But the thing is, it's only a 222 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: conversation if they lose, right, if they win their conference tournament, 223 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: there automatically in the NCAA tournament. So the question then 224 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: is if they go undefeated and then lose in their tournament. 225 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: The thing is, their schedule isn't just mediocre or bad. 226 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: They literally have the second or third worst schedule in 227 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: the entire country. They're like three hundred and sixty two 228 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: out of three hundred and sixty five teams they have zero. 229 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: How much you follow, Like with the net, you have 230 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: Quad one, Quad two, Quad three, Quad four. Your Quad 231 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: one record is you know, really vital in terms of 232 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: figuring out do you deserve in that large bid? You 233 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: know what they're quad one on record is Jason zero 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: zero and zero they have they play one Quad two game. 235 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: So there is a case to be made. And this 236 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: is why these metrics are helpful. This is why the 237 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: selection committee being so transparent is helpful. It's like, just 238 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: because you have like and again football struggles with this 239 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: James Madison versus a duke that win the eight right 240 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: like had and they don't seem to have all of 241 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: these metrics. You have predictive metrics, you have results metrics. 242 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: You have this thing now called wins above bubble which 243 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: measures these things. Like you really cannot perfectly because there 244 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: is no perfect answer, but you can compare a you know, 245 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: twenty nine and three team from this conference or a 246 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: sixteen and fifteen team from this conference because they've played 247 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: different teams, they've played a different level of schedule, and 248 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: that's the decision that the committee has to make. My 249 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: thing is, if you've played your went under the bubble. 250 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it like you put the 251 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: game in the hands of the refs. But it isn't 252 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: so with my Miami Ohio. You know, as they were 253 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: coming to the last couple of weeks, it was like, well, 254 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 3: how many games can they afford to lose. If they 255 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: only lose one, they're almost certainly going to get in. 256 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: If they lose three, they're almost certainly going to be out. 257 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: So if they lose two, maybe is there a question. 258 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: But they've gone thirty one to zero. Even if they 259 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: lose their first game of the Mac tournament, they're going 260 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: to get in that large bit At this point. It's 261 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: just a question of where they're seated. But it is 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: a fun conversation. 263 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 264 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 265 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 266 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: listen live. 267 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: I saw Yukon lost over the weekend. Dogs were barking 268 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: a lot of underdogs covered as teams kind of limped 269 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: to the finish line whatever, and then I saw this, Oh, 270 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: Yukon's not going to be a one seat anymore. I 271 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: mean seth. That caught me by surprise. Maybe I'm in 272 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: the minority. I don't think this is a great Yukon team. 273 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: A lot of ken pop and stats back that up. 274 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was a formality that the one seeds 275 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: are set Michigan Duke, Florida and Arizona in whatever order 276 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: you want. I thought it was a lot, But now 277 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm seeing this, Well, Yukon's got a case and because 278 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: they beat Florida, I don't know it was Florida, Michiganny 279 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: guys in that game, No, no interesting, so quasi home game. 280 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: It was an MSR strength. 281 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Now Yukon lost to Arizona. They were not a full strength. Again, 282 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: this comes down to numbers of metrics. It was very 283 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: close with Yukon and Florida, and the fact that Yukon 284 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: beat Florida by one point on December ninth was kind 285 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: of looming large because they were so close. But it 286 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: really is about your entire body of work. You got 287 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: to wrap your head around that. So unlike Florida, Yukon 288 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: actually has some bad or less than good losses. They 289 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: have a quad three loss, they lost at home to Creighton, 290 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: and now they lose at Marquette, So you know, Yukon 291 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: had the inside track. The top three one seeds are 292 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: pretty much done in Duke Michigan, Arizona. Even if they 293 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: don't win their conference tournaments, there are those teams going 294 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: to be one seeds. So it really was coming down 295 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: to these two teams now. And I actually thought Jason 296 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: that you're kind of looking at who they're going to 297 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: play because the Big East is very weak, uh this year, 298 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: they're only going to send three teams in the tournament, 299 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: buying something really surprising happening uh in Madison Square Guard. 300 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: So I was kind of looking at it, Well, if 301 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: Yukon wins out, they win the Big East tournament, and 302 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: then if Florida wins out, they win the SEC tournament. 303 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: I think Florida had a good chance to pass Yukon. 304 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: So it's based on their entire body of work, how 305 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: you've done against your quadrants, and then what you're uh predicted. 306 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: The predictive metrics are more relevant in terms of the seeding. 307 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's interesting, So Yukon then you think they're 308 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: If they're not a one, you think there are a 309 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: lot to be a two. 310 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there'll be a to Okay, so. 311 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: That that bracket, I feel like they're probably going to 312 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: be the weakest too, even if they're the highest two. 313 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that and let me hear your twos. 314 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm assuming Illinois Houston are for sure, and then the. 315 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: One in Michigan State I think is the other one. 316 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: Iowa State is also in the mix depending on how 317 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: that plays out. So some some things to be determined. Yeah, 318 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: you know, you kind of me. It's interesting to like 319 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: evaluate teams on different criteria. I mean, for Yukon, they're 320 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: thinking Final four national championship. I mean they have every 321 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: right and reason to be thinking along those lines. Those 322 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: are our goals, those are aspirations. I do see some 323 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: laws in this team, and I think, you know, the 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: loss at Marquette demonstrated that they do struggle to score 325 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: at times. They have an outstanding freshman two guard and 326 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: Braylen Mullins. He's a big kid, six five sixty six, 327 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: really got a lot of tools in his toolbox. Can 328 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: really score the ball, but he but he can be 329 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: taken out. He's not a you know, he's not a 330 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: real physical player. I think they were I want to say, 331 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: three for twenty four from three point range, when they 332 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: played at Marquette, so that was pretty bad. But then again, 333 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: like you know, Saint John's was playing great basketball and 334 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: Yukon drilled them at thirty two, So it is hard 335 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: to draw hard and fast conclusions all the time. I 336 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: would put Yukon as a step below the other favorites 337 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 3: that were talking about. I would not put them in 338 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: the in the Duke Michigan Arizona bucket. I think Florida 339 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: is kind of right there. I might make Florida a 340 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: three A, but that's splitting hairs. I would put Yukon 341 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: because they had like close wins over Georgetown twice, close 342 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: games against Seaton Hall, close games against Providence, and then 343 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: that home loss to Creighton and losing at Marquette. Like 344 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: I mean, teams are gonna lose and they're gonna they're 345 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: gonna play poorly. But my point being, even when they 346 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: were winning, they were not drilling people by the margins 347 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: that you're seeing these other top candidates. 348 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: What I yeah, what I didn't realize was in December 349 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: they beat Kansas. November they beat Kansas at Kansas, they 350 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: beat Illinois, which is a really good win. They beat Florida, Texas. 351 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: Those are great wins. So why do you think they 352 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: were able to, you know, take down some really good 353 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: teams early. Now some of those teams have big time freshmen. 354 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: And then now we're struggling late in the season against 355 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: n I T teams and Creighton and Marquette. 356 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's just a nature of the beast. 357 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: It's a long season, you know, I often say, Jason, 358 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: you know, these are not robots. These are college kids. 359 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: So you know, game the game, and are you coming 360 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: off a big win, are you coming off a bad 361 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: loss like they get drilled or actually I'm thinking of 362 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: sort of Saint John's. But Saint John's gets drilled at 363 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: Yukon by thirty two points, and the next game they 364 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: turn around and they beat pretty good Villanova team tournament 365 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: team by that same margin, thirty two points. Same same. 366 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's like so it but also what does 367 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 3: happen over the course of a season, especially as you 368 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: go through the league a couple of times. It's kind 369 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: of like a hitter, you know, the first you know, 370 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: it comes up to the majors and his first time 371 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: through he lights everybody up, and then they figure out 372 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: how to pitch to him. So there's some of that 373 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: going on as well. But look, Yu Konda is absolutely 374 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: capable of making a Final four, don't get me wrong, 375 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: But it is interesting that they have won so many 376 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: games as closely as they have inside of a big 377 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: East which everybody recognizes as being pretty down. 378 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: This is one of the great freshman classes we've seen 379 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: in maybe college basketball history. Obviously the two thousand and 380 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: three NBA Draft class Lebron and he didn't go to college. 381 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: Wade did and was great at Marquette. But I mean, 382 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: you've seen a lot of great freshman classes. I mean said, 383 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 2: I did not know they were this stack. Now. For 384 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: the last few years, the draft has been dominated by 385 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: Euros and we've been hearing all American basketball is dead. 386 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: It's all AAU nonsense. I don't do. This group of 387 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: guys looks totally different than what we've seen in the past. 388 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: Why is that it's just that year? You know, you 389 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: know they're not you know, I think you're going to 390 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: have more college freshmen picked in the first round of 391 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: the NBA Draft than in the history of the NBA Draft. 392 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: That's my prediction. I've seen some of these and I've 393 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: run the numbers on it. And then you also have 394 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: great players at the top. So that's that, to me, 395 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: is what really distinguishes. Sometimes you have a couple of 396 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: great you know, Cooper Flags, your Lebron's You're wemb obviously 397 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: not a college player, but you know, you have that 398 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: type of draft, and then you have the draft which 399 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: is considered to be deep, but you rarely have that combination. 400 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: You have a couple of guys and you know, and 401 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: I'm not ruling out the possibility that Cameron Boozer goes 402 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: number one overall, by the way, I mean, he has 403 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: put against some of these analytics. Guys are are running 404 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: the numbers on this, and I don't I don't understand 405 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: the methodology. It's like over my head, but there is 406 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: analytical evidence that Cam Boozer is having the best season 407 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: of any college player in like the last twenty years. 408 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 3: Like I've seen that, I've seen those rankings, so it's 409 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: pretty extraordinary. But then you also have Darren Peterson and 410 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: aj Debantsa and just a lot of great players. I mean, 411 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: these kids are coming up through the through the AAUS 412 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: with experience and the level of exposure and like they're 413 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: not phased by anything, you know, like aj Debantsa arrives 414 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: at BYU and he's like, oh, everyone's looking at me, 415 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: everyone's talking about That's been his reality since he's thirteen, 416 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: you know. To him, it's just Thursday, you know. So 417 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: they're they're ready on a lot of levels. And what's interesting, Jason, 418 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: really interesting. This is why I talk about narratives like 419 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: narratives are tricky, is that this is all happening at 420 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: a time where everyone is saying, I'm not recruiting freshman anymore. 421 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: I'd much rather go on aer portal and get a 422 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: twenty two year old than some eighteen nineteen year old kid. 423 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 3: And it's been interesting. Like Tommy Lloyd at Arizona, I 424 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: think he brought it seven freshmen, you know, so I 425 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 3: think he just got to take the best players. And 426 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, this particular freshman class not only has 427 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: super great dominant players at the top, but the sheer 428 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: depth she I mean, I haven't talked about, like you 429 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: know Abuka O Korea got at Stanford that nobody was 430 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: talking about. Keithon Woggler at Illinois was ranked below two 431 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: hundred and the twenty four to seven composite where they 432 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: take all the computer, all the recruiting rankings two hundred. Oh, 433 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: he was like two sixty, dude, and he was great. 434 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: I think he had like twenty ors some his first game, 435 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: Like he's been great throughout and then they had a 436 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: guy get hurt and he had to do even more 437 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: and he went for forty. I mean we had one 438 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: day where three freshmen, Kingston Flemings, Keaton Woggler and aj 439 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: Debonson went for forty on the same day, on the 440 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: same day. So what can I tell you? 441 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: Man? 442 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: It has been a great with all of the MESAGAUS 443 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: going on with nil and the transferring and G League 444 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: guys coming in and all the mess about how college 445 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: sports is being run right now or not being run, 446 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: the actual product between the lines in college basketball is 447 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: as good as I've ever seen it. And I've been 448 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: doing this a minute. 449 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's interesting, you said Boozer, one of the 450 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: highest grades. I was like, okay, he's good. So I 451 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: just clicked on the Ken Palm comparable players, just the numbers, 452 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: nothing not not the eye test, and the comparable players 453 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: come up as Cooper Flag, Jabari Parker, Jason Tatum, Jared Sollinger, 454 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: who I'm sure you remember, Ohio State was amazing, Aaron 455 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: Gordon at Arizona, Marvin Bagley interesting, Michael Kidd grew because 456 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: just a lot of great college players. I don't see 457 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: Christian Layner on the list, but I guess the data 458 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 2: doesn't go back to like, you know, the early nineties. 459 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: Is a great later is a great comparison for Killing. 460 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: Boozer has higher NBA upside than Laightner. I mean, Layner 461 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: played like ten years and scored double digits, but I 462 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: don't I don't think he was like an all NBA 463 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: guy or anything. 464 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: No, he wasn't, but he played a long time. I 465 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 3: made a lot of money Christian. He did the thing 466 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: about Cam Boozer. You know, I used to say about 467 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: Zion Williamson that it's almost as shit, almost a shame 468 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: that Zion was as good of an athlete as he 469 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 3: was and dunked over everybody that he was with all 470 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: these superhuman physical trades, because people all know, didn't notice 471 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: what a good player he was and what a smart 472 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: player he was. Cam Boozer one of the smartest basketball 473 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: players that I've ever seen. I mean, when Duke needs 474 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: a bucket late, they put the ball in his hands 475 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: and he's running a high screen and roll with the ball, 476 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: not as the screener, partly because of his skills. He's 477 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: a forty three point shooter, which should be against the rules, 478 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: but his I mean he leads them and assists. He 479 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: leads them in steals, he leads them in scoring and rebound. Obviously, 480 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: he has not had a bad game all season as 481 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: a freshman. You think, all right, he was off that game, 482 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: he went two for fifteen and scored six and had 483 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: six turnovers. He's just had He has not had a 484 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 3: bad game, And I don't maybe overstated a little bit, 485 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: but I haven't seen him make a bad decision. The 486 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: way he thinks the game is really really really elite, 487 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: And it's why not. Now Duke has a couple of 488 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: injury issues. They do. 489 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: I saw I was gonna ask about that. I mean, 490 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: why are we not getting it? There's like no chatter. 491 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: It's weird. In the NBA, you'd like have to give 492 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: out injury and all this stuff. There's really no rule 493 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: about that at Duke not a duke in college basketball, 494 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: So I didn't know he was seriously injured. 495 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: Nobody did, and that and whatever happened there, but that 496 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 3: it's actually funny you mentioned that because it's only in 497 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: the last two years that college basketball now is doing 498 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: availability reports and it's all because of gambling. So Patrick 499 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: Gonball was not in Duke's availability report that I'm aware of, 500 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: So something must have happened that day or whatever it was. 501 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 3: We'll give everybody the benefit of the doubt. I think 502 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: he had some type of physical issue that for whatever reason, 503 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: the day before. I think, I think they have to 504 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: be in I know they published it the night before 505 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: the game, and again it's all because of gambling. So 506 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 507 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, did you. That's why I bet 508 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: Duke said a seat and a half. 509 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: There you go, there got it. As far as I 510 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: am aware, he was not in their availability report, I 511 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: don't know. You know, it's really hard getting information about 512 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 3: injuries and like they're inventing like lower extremity injury, like 513 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: that could be like a hip pointer, it could be 514 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 3: a turf toe, like that's a big range. Like it's 515 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: very annoying. Coaches seem to think like if the other 516 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 3: coach knows he's not gonna play, they're gonna come on. 517 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's silly, it's silly, But no he it 518 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: was a surprise, like, oh, Gon was not playing, that's weird. 519 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: And then Foster Cale Foster, their point guard went out. 520 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: So so they're not winning the title without those two. 521 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: Would you agree? 522 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: I would say it's a lot less likely. You know, 523 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: the maybe they could do with that one or the other. 524 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: You know, they could overcome Foster a little bit more 525 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: than Gone, but Gone was super you know when they 526 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: lost at North Carolina, they blew a big lead in 527 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: the second half. That happened when he got in a 528 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: foul trouble. So he got four and they sat him 529 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: and then he picked up his fifth with like four 530 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: and a half to go. He's super important to that team. 531 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: So you know, the thing is is they can certainly 532 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 3: win their first round game without them, but when you 533 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: get that second round, now you're playing a real team. 534 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: You're playing at games. 535 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's about you know, thirteen or fourteen days 536 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: since their injuries, so maybe gives them enough time. But 537 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: I'll tell. 538 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 539 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 540 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 541 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: listen live. 542 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: Let's just say they're out not gonna play. Would you 543 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: lean Arizona or Michigan. 544 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: I will lean Arizona, probably because Michigan also has an injury. 545 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: Their backguard L J. Cason good, real good player, real 546 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: good player. I mean he's not a starter, but he's 547 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: an important part of what they do. You know, Arizona's 548 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: just quietly been pounding people. You know, they're a big, strong, 549 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: physical team. Uh obviously talented, but they're really big on 550 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: the front court. A terrific defensive center uh in Monte Crevis, 551 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: and just a stone cold winner in in Jayden Browley 552 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: reminds me of a little bit of Jalen Brunson. You know, 553 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: doesn't overwhelm you with his physical tools, his size. But 554 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: he's just a transfer from Alabama. I think it's a 555 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: second or third year in the program, and he's just 556 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: a just a winner. It's just a winner. All they've 557 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: done all year is is when. 558 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 2: So let me ask, it's a shoot. So I was thinking, 559 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, the four ones would be very very heavy 560 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: favorite to make the funnel four. But now we punctured 561 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: Duke and I'm like, well, shocks, Duke is susceptible. Michigan 562 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: now backup point guard there may be a little susceptible, right, 563 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 2: I don't know, are we going to see chaos? Like 564 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: is there a world where oh my gosh, holy cow, 565 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: Arizona they're not a three point shooting team. They can't 566 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: make threes. They're what three hundred and sixty third in 567 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: the country and threes attempted, And all of a sudden, 568 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 2: somebody hits eleven of seventeen and Arizona's on the ropes? Like, 569 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: am I getting crazy here? Maybe I'm just getting too 570 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: excited for the corn? 571 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's you know, if you've watched me on 572 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: this tournament the last twenty some id years, the fact 573 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: that anybody would ask me for my predictions is kind 574 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: of laughable. I don't know if it's because they want 575 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: they want to play me or fade me. Uh, you know. 576 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: And I also tend to get a little carried away 577 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: on my on the selection show at picking up sets 578 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: and see and see terms of crapshoot. You know, it's 579 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: like that's what I'm talking about, like these narratives with 580 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 3: nil and whatnot, Like, let's just enjoy the tournament because 581 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: it is crazy and a lot of it is matchups, 582 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: A lot of it is matchups. You know, some of 583 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: these teams that made unexpected you know, pushes to the 584 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: final four. Sometimes what happens is, you know, they're supposed 585 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: to play the one seed in the Elite eight or 586 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen, and the one seed gets knocked off. 587 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: So now instead of playing a one, you're playing an eight, 588 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: you know, and then matching up against certain teams that 589 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: is absolutely huge. So it is geography like Houston could 590 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: end up in Houston as the number two seeds. So 591 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: whoever the one seed is there is gonna, you know, 592 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: be bitching and moaning about that, because we know that 593 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: the coaches like to bitch and moan. So you know 594 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: everything that we've been seeing. Uh again, coming off the 595 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: one seeds from last year making the final four would 596 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: make me lean towards the cream rise. That's what I 597 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: would guess happens. But if you tell me that there 598 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: are tons of upsets along the way and there's craziness, 599 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: that wouldn't the Only thing that we should expect is 600 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: to be surprised. And that's the beauty of the NCAA tournament. 601 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: One and one, baby one and done. 602 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: So it's you mentioned Houston and I was thinking Arizona. 603 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: The Big Twelve is just such a big conference that 604 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: it looks like if you want to win the Big 605 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: Twelve and you are Aj Debon said by you've got 606 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: to win five games in five that's insane. So if 607 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: you're Iowa State, you don't have to win Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, SATs. 608 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: That's a lot. And I wonder, is it silly to 609 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: think maybe that we're in taror on an Iowa State 610 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: makes them susceptible if they were to go to the final. 611 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm just telling you, Man, there again, 612 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: there's no correlation. You go back to Kemba Walker and Yukon. 613 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: I think they had to win five and five days 614 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: and they've been four I think it was five and 615 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: five days. It was a surprise run. And then it's like, 616 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: oh and if I tell you, I might be getting 617 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: my Ukun teams. And they've been to the Shabba's Napier 618 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 3: team that did the same where I picked against them 619 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: six straight times and they won the when they won, 620 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: I think it was the Shabazz Napier team, But I 621 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: do remember the Kemba Walker team. Or they're going to 622 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: be dog tired. Also, like you know, I'll go back 623 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: to when I was a student at Duke in nineteen 624 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: ninety one, my junior year. Uh, they lost the ACC 625 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: Tournament final the Carolina by like twenty something and they 626 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: went to win the national championship. The next year, they 627 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: beat Carolina by twenty in the AGENCY Tournament final and 628 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: they won the national championship. Right, So, so looking for 629 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: a causation, the correlation gets gets gets kind of message, 630 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 3: and it depends different teams are different. Like look at 631 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: the college football playoff, right rest versus rust something we 632 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: said for that to look at how the first four 633 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: teams that play on the Tuesday or Wednesday, in the 634 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: first four and how they've done on Thursday and Friday, 635 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: they've done pretty well. The theory is that hey, we 636 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: just played, let's go, get on the plane, let's go, 637 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: we're ready to go. Whereas a team that maybe lost 638 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: early and it's conference tournament, hasn't played in nine or 639 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: ten days, and then they're vulnerable. Right. 640 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious do you use any artificial intelligence for 641 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: whether Google, Gemini, Claude, whatever for research, because like, for instance, 642 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: you just came up with that five days, five games, 643 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: and you mentioned Yukon I was like, oh, yeah, Yukon 644 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: twenty eleven, five games in five days, Big East and 645 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: they won the national championship NC State twenty twenty four. Yeah, 646 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: five games, five days, the same thing, got Final four, 647 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: lost in the final four to Purdue. But like it's amazing, 648 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: Like otherwise you would have to do a lot of 649 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: number crunching. Maybe ask your statsky that you have working 650 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: with you. Are you using AI a lot for college basketball? 651 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: Well, so you packed a lot in there. I mean, 652 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: first of all, is I really don't have much of 653 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: a life. You know, I've been studying this stuff for 654 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: a while. I'm not like a big memory guy, so 655 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit off on things. You know. John 656 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: Rothstein is like rain Man, right, So you know the 657 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: only I use chat GPT for some of my research. 658 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: But look, if there were I won't give it. Like 659 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: sometimes I'll like, I know people who like try to 660 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: figure out the system, Like there's a reason those casinos 661 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 3: in Vegas or yes, right, the house always wins. Like 662 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 3: whatever your system is, trust me, there are people a 663 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: lot smarter than you who have tried to break the system, 664 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: and none of them have done it yet. Okay, so 665 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: don't bet more than you can afford to lose. That's 666 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: that's the only rule. So I when I pit games, 667 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: I can only tell you I'm not saying this is 668 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: a system. I look for the swinging pendulum. So if 669 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: a team has a huge win and they'll go hitting 670 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: the road two days later against a team that's really 671 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: not very good but fighting, fighting, uh make make the tournament. 672 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: They're on the bubble, like I'll take the underdog. I'm saying, like, 673 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out where that pendulum is swinging 674 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: in terms of the human nature of motion. But there's 675 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 3: no there is no data numbers crunching AI that anyone's 676 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: going to be able to do to figure out. To 677 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 3: me that that's the fun it's been. Oh your picks 678 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: are wrong. Well I love being wrong. I love being 679 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: Holy cow. I didn't see that coming, you know, Like 680 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: NC State, NC State, I think now this is going 681 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: to be I think their first game in the a 682 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: CC term is maybe against Virginia or some bad team, 683 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: and they were down in halftime and Kevin Keats was 684 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: about to get fired. No, she's about to get fired. 685 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: They rebounded, They won the ACC tournament, got into the tournament, 686 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: got to the final four, he got an extension coach 687 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: one more year, then he got fired. Now he's on 688 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: his yeah, right, So you know, don't try to make 689 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: sense of the sense. 690 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: No, they totally get. 691 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: Now. 692 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: Now, if we're looking for a stat here, seth one 693 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: that I've used to gamble a lot this year is 694 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: the offensive rebounding percentage. And it just so happens that, 695 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't you know it, Michigan is twenty fourth in the 696 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: country in offensive rebounding. Duke is sixteenth, Arizona is fifth, 697 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: Illinois third, Florida second. All five of the best six 698 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: teams just happen to be top twenty five in offensive 699 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: rebounding percentage. Because like you can have an off night 700 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: from three right right, offensive rebounding is not the same 701 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: you grab offensive rebounds because you've got size, and a 702 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: lot of those teams are huge. Do you feel like 703 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 2: the game has gone, has maybe shifted back from maybe 704 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: Mark used to be guards guards guards, and now it's like, hey, man, 705 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: if you've got the size, you definitely can hang. 706 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of truth to what you're saying. 707 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it really just comes down like I have 708 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: this conversation with Cam palm Roy all the time. And 709 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 3: it just comes down to efficiency. And you can be 710 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: efficient in a lot of ways. If you have an 711 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 3: efficient offense, then offensive rebounding becomes less important. But offensive 712 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 3: rebounding is a part of efficiency because it's all considered 713 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: the same possession. So yeah, I think it's and I 714 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: just think rebounding and defense and also one thing I 715 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: look The other two things I look at, Jason are 716 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: turnover a percentage, taking care of the basketball, and tempo. Tempo. 717 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 3: I like slow teams in March, partly because again because 718 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: the matchups. I believe it's easier for a team that 719 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 3: wants to play slow to slow down a fast team 720 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 3: than to speed up a team that didn't want to run. 721 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 3: So if you can take care of the ball, then 722 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: especially you know you can't touch it guys, you know, 723 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: the freedom of movement, like you can you can get 724 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 3: a team, you know, like a Louisville say that wants 725 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: to run. You can get them to play your style 726 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: a slower pace than you can get them, And so 727 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 3: that's kind of what I look for as well. 728 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: Interesting, so the top, let me see who's really the tempo. 729 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: Alabama is a team that everybody likes because you know 730 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: they obviously they play pat in space, a lot of speed. 731 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: I like their backcourt. I don't know, do you have 732 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: any sleepers from March seth as we wrap up here, 733 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: any any dark horses that you think could make a 734 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: move pretty rackets, obviously. 735 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'll give you a couple. Ucla is 736 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: playing better. They had an injury issue with one of 737 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: their guards, this guy Clark. He was gone I think 738 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 3: ten games because of the hamstring. He's back. It takes 739 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 3: a couple of games to get back in the flow. 740 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 3: They're playing better and if they are healthy. You know 741 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: the way that the Crown and coaches defense, it's not 742 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: a good defensive team, but he'll have them ready. Ohio 743 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: State is another team that seems to have found it. 744 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: Stried a little bit. They got a freshman big man 745 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: Amary Bonham, who's playing better. Wisconsin is a giant killer. 746 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: Now Wisconsin has two go get them guards and John 747 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 3: Blackwell and Nick Boyd, and they can really mean. They 748 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 3: won at Michigan. They just won at Purdue over the weekend. 749 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 3: And then you know, Northern Iowa just made the tournament 750 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 3: really well. Coached by Ben Jacobs and he's been there 751 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 3: seventeen years. They had multiple injuries during the regular season 752 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: where they lost a lot of games, and that's why 753 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: they were a six seed in their conference tournament. But 754 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: they are healthy now, so they were very under seated 755 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: as a sixth seed. Again. Defense, tempo, taking care of 756 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 3: the ball, well, coached, a lot of continuity, a lot 757 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: of retention. So maybe those are three that jump out at. 758 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: Is Northern Iowa? Is that the Ali? 759 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: You cannot be serious with that shot. 760 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my gosh, it was. You're right, yes, two thousand. 761 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 3: And on the call Ali. He's a head coach somewhere. 762 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 3: I forget where, but he's he's coaching now. He's still around. Yeah. 763 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 2: So they took down number two Kansas. Yeah, lost to Sparty. Wow. Yeah, 764 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: I March is so good. All right, Seth, thanks a 765 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: lot man taking the time. Obviously, where do you want 766 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 2: them to go for your best stuff? Social media? What 767 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: are you thinking? 768 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'm on Twitter at Seth Davis Hoops. Also I 769 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 3: encourage everyone to check out at hoopshq dot com covering 770 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: the tournament, covering all of the college basketball, the draft, 771 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 3: the transfer portal, all of it. So yeah, and then 772 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 3: on the Jason McIntyre podcast as well. 773 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Seth, thanks all right, j mc