WEBVTT - The Need for Speed: Tom Baker

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<v Speaker 1>Zaren Brunette, my old sew and so I got a

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<v Speaker 1>question for you, Yes, sir, okay, do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>second I do you comfortable? I'm good? You look you

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<v Speaker 1>look nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well okay, my question was this, it's I just need

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<v Speaker 1>help with this. Do you know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you would.

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<v Speaker 2>I do golden toilet? What a golden toilet?

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't you cover this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you talked about a golden guy steals a golden toilet.

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<v Speaker 2>Marizio catalan Uh an artist, he made that solid gold

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<v Speaker 2>toilet that was in a former in the castle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I ran out of ridiculous. No no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no no, I shall never run out. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>golden toilet, right, and when I told you about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Originally they had seven people that were suspects, but they

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<v Speaker 2>had to let them go because they didn't have anything. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>two rude dudes, Patrick Kovich, who is a home brewer

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<v Speaker 2>nice and Jimmy Dunnman who is an FX modeler. So

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<v Speaker 2>two fascinating fellows. They tipped us off that there's an

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<v Speaker 2>article in art net headline great website. UK authorities are

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<v Speaker 2>ready to charge seven suspects over the twenty nineteen theft

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<v Speaker 2>of Mauricio Catalan's gold toilet sculpture.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, all seven.

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<v Speaker 2>All seven. So there were the seven suspects. Now they're

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<v Speaker 2>about to charge them.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlucky number seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlucky number seven. So they do believe that it was

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<v Speaker 2>melted down and people are wearing toilet gold. But we

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<v Speaker 2>may be able to like pin it on somebody. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a cool update from Patrick and Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to you, Patrick and Jimmy. Yeah, good looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, hooray. And that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>That is thank you. Well you you got another second? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>because I got one for you. It doesn't evolve any

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<v Speaker 1>gold toilets, damn it, bumbs nothing, Okay. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>how I like going fast? Right? I do know that

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<v Speaker 1>I love to go fast. Yes, speed is my thing

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<v Speaker 1>in every milliu yeah completely Now, unsurprisingly I also love

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<v Speaker 1>stories of high speed vehicular theft. No, I know, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>shock shock shock, But oh boy, do I have one

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<v Speaker 1>for you today, Elizabeth. Get ready for the doctor Who

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<v Speaker 1>of Carthieves. Oh god, this is ridiculous crime. A podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about I'm surd and outrageous Kper's heists and cons. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always ninety nine percent moder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Elizabeth, Yeah, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like movies about gladiators? Hmmm?

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<v Speaker 2>You know Gladiator was a good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever see a grown man naked? Yeah? I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna the dinamic airplane?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I was playing along.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I do have a legit question for you, though, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like movies about Carthive's.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends, not just like as a blanket statement. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen some stupid ones, but I've seen some good.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones, some stupid ones. Okay, well like well, movies like

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Cage and Angelina Jolie's Gym Gone in sixty Seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen that?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I saw that once in San Francisco because

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<v Speaker 2>it was hot as blazes out and there was it

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<v Speaker 2>was like one hundred and two. Oh wow, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was no in San Francisco and no one has air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went in the movie theater and I watched

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<v Speaker 2>it just to get out of the heat.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. What do you think of the movie?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the cool cool air conditioning?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about the Marky Mark Wahlberg remake of the

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Caine classic The Italian Job.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen the remake. I've seen the original.

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<v Speaker 1>He what to think? Original?

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So like do you remember like the Little Mini Coopers? Okay, now, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are a team of professional car thieves and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a list of sports cards you have to

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<v Speaker 1>steal in order to satisfy the will of some shadowy

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<v Speaker 1>underworld figure. Me, I'm seeing that movie. Yeah, like just

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent right. But sometimes sometimes Elizabeth, I get

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<v Speaker 1>lucky and we get a real life, fast and furious

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<v Speaker 1>style crime spreed. It seems like it's a movie, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's in real life, real life. That's what we're doing today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm excited so for as.

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<v Speaker 1>You like to say, and I love to quote from

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<v Speaker 1>you for an amuse boosh. Back in twenty nineteen, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a Nick Cage wannabe from Germany who won my

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<v Speaker 1>heart over with some crime we did. Yes, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet guy. Yeah. The car this cat was after

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<v Speaker 1>was a nineteen eighty five Ferrari too eighty eight gto

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, a sports car, it was right. This highly

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<v Speaker 1>prized car was one of only two hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two built by the Italian car maker.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, okay, car was.

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<v Speaker 1>Valued three million dollars US two point sixty three million

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<v Speaker 1>to be exact. If you're looking to purchase it.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth, Yeah, I gotta check my accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you probably need to get your checkbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I got to move some funds around.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly liquid right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's it's it's you know, right before tax

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<v Speaker 1>season you got your fiscal year ending. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were in the market, set aside two

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<v Speaker 1>point six three, okay, we'll do right. But this Ferrari

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<v Speaker 1>it had other reasons you'd want to own it. Besides

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<v Speaker 1>the slightly reduced price.

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<v Speaker 2>Tag magical power.

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<v Speaker 1>It was once owned by a legit Formula One race

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<v Speaker 1>car driver.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it was like Mario Andretti.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not your favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I don't know any other one. I know

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy zoom Zoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Irvine Eddie. He was a North irishman who owned

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<v Speaker 1>it from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety nine, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had good luck with Ferrari because he'd won four

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<v Speaker 1>races driving a Ferrari for the team race Team Scuderia Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, real race card.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope he was driving Ferraris. If he was

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<v Speaker 2>on Scuderia Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would help, right, it'd be really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Pulls up in a VW. He's like, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Out he told me this is faster. Uh, the sports

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<v Speaker 1>car with the distinctive red paint job. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what that red.

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<v Speaker 2>Paint job is called Ferrari red?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Good? Guess that'd be if he was an American?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it called good?

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<v Speaker 1>Also guess Italian Corso? Oh? Okay, So this Italian Corso

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<v Speaker 1>two eighty eight GT was sitting there at a dealership

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<v Speaker 1>in Dusseldorf, Germany, just duseldorfing around, right. One day a

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<v Speaker 1>man came in wanting to know more about the car, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy's like, he's been emailing and phoning the

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<v Speaker 1>car dealer for weeks, right, Finally cat shows up. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the guy, and this fateful Monday afternoon dude steps

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<v Speaker 1>out of a taxi. He rocks up to the dealer

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I want to do a test drive

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<v Speaker 1>that car right over there. Dealer's like, all right. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy's this heavy set, middle aged man. He speaks English

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<v Speaker 1>and French, but no German. Germans are like, no problem,

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<v Speaker 1>we got you boo. So they're friendly enough German style,

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<v Speaker 1>and they decide, okay, we're gonna take this cat for

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<v Speaker 1>a test drive. They give the keys to the Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 1>They go, let's go. Where do you want to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>drive it? And he's like, oh, I'll just take it

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<v Speaker 1>around the parking lot of the dealerships. So they take

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<v Speaker 1>it around the parking lot of the dealership and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like oh yes. But he's like, you know what, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't quite enough. I'm wrong. I need to actually see

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<v Speaker 1>what it feels like on the road. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>feel the.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull of them boning to say so.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said, uh, you know, do these ponies run?

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<v Speaker 1>The salesman's buddy, Let's take it out on the roads.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, I'm gonna see how it handles its speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mind if I just take it up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. He's like yeah, but you know, try not

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<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, try not to lose control of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. But neither one of us Okay, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford this. Apparently you can, right, and the salesman's like reluctant,

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<v Speaker 1>but he obliges the guy. Right. So now the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why he was reluctant, as I told you, is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hyper expensive. They can't afford it. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>if this driver, like you know, crashes it on a

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<v Speaker 1>test drive, who's responsible? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>A really good question?

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<v Speaker 1>Car dealership, the salesman, the guy who's driving it his car,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure two covers the test drive of a Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, but I am wondering if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to test drive something that expensive, do they make you,

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<v Speaker 2>like put some sort of deposit or like secure that

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<v Speaker 2>you could pay for the car if need be.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically, Yes, these are all good questions, Elizabeth, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Yeah, way to think financially. Yeah, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you would typically do. Right. However, on average, I

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<v Speaker 1>looked into this. According to the German luxury car dealerships,

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<v Speaker 1>only ten percent of their perspective buyers ever ask for

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<v Speaker 1>a full test drive. This actually doesn't come up that often.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, right, but maybe I'm just cheap, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>just bought a car not too long A couple months

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<v Speaker 2>back but wow, I guess it's a few months, months,

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<v Speaker 2>several months back, time flies years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You bought a car once in my life?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I mean it's like I can't imagine being

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just take it around. I want to drive

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<v Speaker 2>it on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to feel the road.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to run over some kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You always put the kids. So the prospective buyer and

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<v Speaker 1>the car salesman they eventually agree like, no paper were

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<v Speaker 1>because it's necessary. Let's just take this bad boy out

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<v Speaker 1>for a dealership ride. He's like like, okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy buyer. He races around Duseldorf in his Ferrari. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up six miles away from the car dealership,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, okay, that was fun. Man, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm satisfied, right this guy, the guy, the Perspective buyer.

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<v Speaker 1>He tells the salesman, I'm good, all right, I'm convinced

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<v Speaker 1>this is the car for me. Let's get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the dealership. Let's do this paperwork. Brother V gates. We

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<v Speaker 1>cool and the guy's like yeah, yeah, all right. The

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<v Speaker 1>perspective buyers like, hey, you know what, I've been really

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<v Speaker 1>lucky so far. I didn't lose control of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you drive it back to the dealership. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to press my luck. And the guy's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>very good calls, so I will definitely these ill drive

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<v Speaker 1>it back to the dealership if you'd like me to.

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<v Speaker 1>So the buyer's like, cool, all right. He opens his door,

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<v Speaker 1>the salesman's opens his door. Salesman steps out. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, he hears the worst sound imaginable, the rev

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<v Speaker 1>of a Ferrari engine.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that if that car then it would

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<v Speaker 2>be grinding of gears.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you are carrying it. And when I lived in Venice,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you you heard that all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>all these like mclarence Lamborghinis, Ferrari's coming from Santa Monica

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<v Speaker 1>down the coast, pain painful? Did you take a lesson?

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<v Speaker 1>You got the money?

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<v Speaker 2>Not everyone can drive those things?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh very few people who have new money, apparently can.

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<v Speaker 1>So Eventually, this guy, right, he hears the rev of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ferrari engine. The salesman panics. He turns and he

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<v Speaker 1>sees exactly what he knew what he was about to see.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy had floored it. Italian wheels gripped German road

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<v Speaker 1>and took off right gone in less than thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Cage, eat your heart up. Police they send up

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<v Speaker 1>a helicopter to search for this Ferrari because it's Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, we're catching this man right now. They have

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<v Speaker 1>an iconic, distinctive red sports car. It should be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>easy to find this guy zipping around Dusseldorf, right But

0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.199
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. Helicopter gets up there, it's too late. The car,

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<v Speaker 1>the car thief. They're in the wind car salesman standing

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of the road. But just his career

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<v Speaker 1>in his hands now, the car thief. He wasn't particularly

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<v Speaker 1>good at hiding his identity because remember I said he

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<v Speaker 1>had emailed and phoned the dealership.

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<v Speaker 2>Over his well and again they didn't ask for his

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<v Speaker 2>driving license, no, but they.

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<v Speaker 1>Did photograph him. They photographed him before he got to

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<v Speaker 1>take the car out. And he also he was wandering

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<v Speaker 1>around the dealership leaving his fingerprints everywhere. It took the

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<v Speaker 1>German police how long do you think one day to

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<v Speaker 1>find Homie.

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<v Speaker 2>To find the doozelders, Well, you know they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Find the dude. They found the stolen Ferrari. Oh, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the car was hidden in a garage in a neighboring

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<v Speaker 1>town eighteen miles away. Car was fine, unharmed. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so as far as he drove right, the thief was

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere to be found. As far as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>he was never caught. He totally got away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they had Prince, they had He wasn't in

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<v Speaker 2>the system.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently not, so you know. Yeah, but they found the car.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, we got the call. This is what's the rafta.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because you can sell the car right anyway, So, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 1>do believe.

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<v Speaker 2>It full of like McDonald's McDonald's rappers and stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>would be amazing, just garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just been eating junk for the entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so he picks up forensic So I just move that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool, Yeah, just kick it over the side. There's

0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.319
<v Speaker 1>like grease stains all over everything. Anyway, Elizabeth, that was

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<v Speaker 1>our appetizer for the day. You ready to meet our

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<v Speaker 1>man of the moment, always, our man of la mancha. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>our ferrari klepto maniac of the day. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's get in spy high speed crime. Okay, this dude's

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<v Speaker 1>name is Tom Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Baker.

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<v Speaker 1>Now before he stole a nineteen eighty nine Ferrari three

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight gts, Tom Baker visited a dealership in Summerfield,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina a few times, much like the previous guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did it a little bit better. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>walk around putting his fingerprints everywhere getting photographs taken of him. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he just did it to get the lay of the land.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to see what their security was like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he takes these multiple visits. He also was very friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>He made himself memorable, personable. He decided he become buddy

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<v Speaker 1>buddy with the owner of the car dealership, this dude

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<v Speaker 1>named Steve Barney. Now the car dealership owner reportedly this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Barney, he had cancer at the time. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that the car thief, though, Tom Baker, happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be a radiologist, So he told Steve, the car dealership owner,

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd read his X rays and he'd give him

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<v Speaker 1>a free second.

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<v Speaker 2>Opinion get a little zap under the table there.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally super nice of him, right, I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let me hook you up. You hook me up, scratch

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<v Speaker 1>my back. I'll buy a Ferrari anyway, but I should

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<v Speaker 1>actually amend that it would have been nice of him

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<v Speaker 1>had he not been pretending to be a radiologist. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Baker was no doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad, bad Mojo come in his way for.

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<v Speaker 1>You. Just wait. So who was he? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Who was he?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? He was what you and I would call a liar.

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<v Speaker 1>So this non doctor Tom Baker won over Steve the

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<v Speaker 1>car Dealer's trust. Now, if you ever watched Doctor Who,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Who was the fourth doctor was a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor who?

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<v Speaker 1>Who? Exactly what? Doctor Who? Who? Doctor? I know?

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<v Speaker 2>Stupid away, go ahead, So this okay, so the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>doctor was named Tom Baker, that the actor or the

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<v Speaker 2>character was.

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<v Speaker 1>Named Tom Baker. The character is always doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's always doctor. I didn't know if it was

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<v Speaker 2>like double.

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<v Speaker 1>O seven how like, okay, the number can be it's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Tom Baker, but guess what now you're doctor Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, they have different actors played Doctor Who, always

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<v Speaker 1>the same doctor Doctor Who exactly? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, I know it's different dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy is Steve the car Dealer, right, he

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<v Speaker 1>has his trust one over by the fake doctor who

0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Tom Baker. Yeah, And as he told the Philadelphia Inquirer,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Steve the car dealer. He said, quote, if

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<v Speaker 1>my sixteen year old daughter needed a ride, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have put her in the car with him. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>how much he trusted this guy. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>he's using a sixteen year old daughter his trust the

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<v Speaker 1>life of my child.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So does he often put his daughter in the car?

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<v Speaker 1>It begs the question, Elizabeth. He came qu It was like, sir, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have how many children do you have? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it always your sixteen year old daughter, Pip, poor girl? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, on that fateful day, tom Baker dropped by

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<v Speaker 1>the dealership. He chatted with his old buddy Steve Barney,

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<v Speaker 1>and at some point he asked Steve if he could

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<v Speaker 1>take the Ferrari three twenty eight GTS out for a

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<v Speaker 1>test drive. Now, this one wasn't as rare as the

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<v Speaker 1>one I told you about before. This one was only

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<v Speaker 1>worth about fifty five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, yeah, so kick one a song.

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<v Speaker 1>And a steal. So tom Baker was interested in buying it.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he needed to take a test drive to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure he could make up his mind. He'd take

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<v Speaker 1>it out for quick spin, maybe hit up the gas

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<v Speaker 1>station down the road, apiece, and then he doubled back

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<v Speaker 1>to the dealership. Steve Barney's like of course, buddy, flipped

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<v Speaker 1>in the keys the Ferrari. Tom Baker slid into that soft,

0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.640
<v Speaker 1>soft leather driver's seat, placed his hands on that steering

0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.680
<v Speaker 1>wheel wrap. He felt the promise of a Ferrari in

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<v Speaker 1>his own hot little hands. Then he slowly drove the

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<v Speaker 1>car off the dealership lot, never to be seen again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, Steve Barney recalled quote. I was conned, I

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<v Speaker 1>was coln and he did a beautiful job. Try to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the genuine goodness of people. I won't let

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<v Speaker 1>that happen again. He broke his spirit, I know, which

0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.000
<v Speaker 1>is sad kind of I mean, like, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>living in when a Ferrari dealer has lost his faith

0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.800
<v Speaker 1>in humanity? He lost I know, as a full person.

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<v Speaker 1>This is normal person. He lost his faith. Yea, it

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<v Speaker 1>is sad. Okay, So on that note, Let's just take

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<v Speaker 1>a little break and then I'll come back and I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you what it became of Steve Barney's trust

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<v Speaker 1>in humanity. What it became of Tom Baker's felonious love

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<v Speaker 1>of Ferraris, and uh, let's just say his luck doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stay so good. All right, Elizabeth, OK, we're now. You

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<v Speaker 1>were worried about my man, Steve Barney, the car dealer,

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<v Speaker 1>his humanity and faith in it. Yeah, well, I I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like you to know I talked to this guy, Steve Barney.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally phoned it. Actually, yes, I once wrote about

0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this fast but not quite furious Ferrari Theorf, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I phoned the car dealer, Steve Barney, because I was like,

0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I gotta talk to this guy, because he was like

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<v Speaker 1>to have a car just stolen right up and underneath you.

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<v Speaker 1>So he wasn't a word loath to discuss this time

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<v Speaker 1>he got ripped off with me. Imagine I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to be nice. I was friendly about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I phoned Steve, we chatted for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>He was nice, amenable, friendly in that kind of SALESMANI

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<v Speaker 1>way right, that is, right up until I mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>words Tom Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he did he offer you his sixteen year old daughter?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. He left all his children out of

0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.200
<v Speaker 1>our conversation, but he did say, who's Tom Baker? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, well, I reminded him, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth doctor who. I mean, the American car thief.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, quote, Tom Baker was the fellow who

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and three came into your auto shop

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<v Speaker 1>and he has to drive a three twenty eight Ferrari

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<v Speaker 1>GTS with you.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not need to be reminded.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. He's like, oh oh yeah, oh it slipped

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<v Speaker 1>his mind, and the memory came suddenly roaring back into view.

0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.679
<v Speaker 1>It was fully formed, like just fully real and alive.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like Cameron Dies' career right after she started

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<v Speaker 1>the mask just boom, suddenly suddenly all there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect that call.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked, uh, Steve, I said, if he remembered that

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<v Speaker 1>particular day and that particular test drive. Oh, yes, practically

0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was. It was tough. Journalism isn't always pretty. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>He denied the reports that he had cancer at the

0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.160
<v Speaker 1>time and that Tom Baker ever posed as a radiologist.

0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 1>He told me that he was never offered any free

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<v Speaker 1>second opinion on X rays. So I don't know where

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that detail came up, but I've read it in the

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Inquirer and other news lot lets. So either they

0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.720
<v Speaker 1>got that part wrong, or perhaps Steve doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>admit it now. I don't know either way. He told me,

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't want to go through this memory again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind, I hate to hurt your journalistic skills,

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.520
<v Speaker 1>but I will want to put it behind me. And

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he just said thank you for your call, and he

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<v Speaker 1>hung up right. Oh my god. Oh yeah, But honestly,

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I totally understood. I mean, I can't imagine I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the time a guy sweet talked

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Tori out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my cant What did he think you were calling

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:14.800
<v Speaker 2>him about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Exact well, Ferrari's I think he thought I was calling

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<v Speaker 1>in general. He has a phone. I called it. I

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 1>called his dealership. I was like, let me talk to

0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Steve Barney. I didn't say, like, hey, I want to

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about that Bonehead movie back in two thousand and three.

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I see, No, he had no idea. So anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>would just like to say that Steve the car dealer

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.239
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't feel too bad about it. All. He was far

0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.240
<v Speaker 1>from alone. Oh Tom Baker would strike again. Oh no,

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and again. It was three months later to be exact.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Baker left North Carolina behind. He was now on

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<v Speaker 1>Long Island, New York. This time he had his covetous

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<v Speaker 1>eye on a nineteen eighty five Ferrari Testarosa.

0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I do. That was a Miami vice car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good call. So he was able to get the

0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.399
<v Speaker 1>keys to the Ferrari. He wasn't supposed to go for

0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>a test drive. If anything, the salesman he was talking to,

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.159
<v Speaker 1>he thought he just wanted to hear the engine turn on.

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:03.879
<v Speaker 1>That's what he kind of told the guy. So what

0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.359
<v Speaker 1>happened was the salesman hands on the keys. He slides

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>in to just like turn the car over.

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 2>So let me just hear this baby per exactly now.

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 1>The salesman's like, of course, sir, sorry, yes. Then he

0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 1>turns around, I don't know, like Papa breath man or something.

0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.160
<v Speaker 1>And then Tom Baker gets comfortable in that buttersoft other seat.

0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.199
<v Speaker 1>He eases his hands onto that wheel wrath, he feels

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the accelerator under his foot, and baby did the ponies

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.159
<v Speaker 1>call to him? So the Ferrari did indeed per when

0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 1>he turned it over, and it purred like Italian soul music.

0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And then he was like I got to hear it

0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.240
<v Speaker 1>start to sing, and he floored it and just drove

0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>away from that showroom and just dropped it into gear

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and drive right off the lot, never to be seen again.

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Wait, are neither of these Ferraris have ever been recovered?

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Nope, he's gone.

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Someone's driving around.

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, Well, eventually I will tell you what

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.440
<v Speaker 1>becomes of Tom Baker and we do find a Ferrari

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 1>here that Okay, they're gone for a long time though, Yeah,

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>because dude had disappeared like doubled eggs at a southern pot. Look,

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 1>he was gone, right, Yeah, So the felonious Ferrari Fisionado

0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>with a taste for test drive theft. What does he

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.840
<v Speaker 1>get into next? Well, it's two thousand and three, right

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.199
<v Speaker 1>as we've been hanging out in mm hmm watching these

0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Ferraris get free. Well, that same year, Tom Baker walks

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:22.159
<v Speaker 1>into a showroom of Algar Ferrari in Ardmore, Pennsylvania. Town's

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a nice suburb. I don't know if you know it.

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a high end car dealerships to match the type

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 1>of town it is. It's like a little like bedroom

0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>community for the New York Philadelphia area. Yeah, exactly. So

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the Alger Ferrari dealership in Ardmore, Pennsylvania, they're just, you know,

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>selling Ferraris that day, and all of a sudden, a

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 1>rather nondescript five foot ten white man walks into the

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.159
<v Speaker 1>luxury car dealership. Turns out this dude is Tom Baker.

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Now is the only time we get an actual description

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of him. The salesman from the showroom would later recall

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.879
<v Speaker 1>that he had ruddy brown hair, like kind of a

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 1>reddish color. It was cut short and neat, like a

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 1>military guy. He wore non memorable clothes. He had a

0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>white shirt with a tie, just playing all itIt shirt

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and a He had a notable gold rolex on his wrist,

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>so that kind of gave him the gravitas for election

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>by a flash. He also wore tortoise shell glasses, which

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but that just feels like wealth.

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:16.320
<v Speaker 1>It codes money, it doesn't. So this nondescript white businessman

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.920
<v Speaker 1>in tortoiseshell glasses and a rolex, he set an appointment

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:21.879
<v Speaker 1>for a test drive of Ferrari. Right, so he comes in,

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>he says, I would like to take out the nineteen

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>ninety six Ferrari F fifty Now, if you know anything

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 1>about one fifty big old chunky tires, it was.

0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 2>It was a spec car.

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Now, the f fifty, not named for fifty cent, was

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.159
<v Speaker 1>a limited edition run that Ferrari made and there were

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 1>only three hundred and forty nine of them built. Yeah,

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the car was created to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Enzo Ferrari's company and it's continued success.

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Car was valued at seven hundred and twenty nine thousand

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars at the time. Yeah, so this in Walks is nondescript.

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>White guy businessman set up an appointment for his test drive,

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>says he's flown in from Itta. He says also he's

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>originally from Oklahoma. But he also says he was a

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 1>CEO from a California tech firm. His lies are just

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>by coastal and his soul is in flyover country. So

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 1>he paints his good picture right. He tells the salespeople

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>from the dealer showroom that he left his limousine parked

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in a nearby supermarket and he hoofed it over out

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>of here. Yeah. Oh yeah, he's got everything right. But

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you see this phony tech ceo. He also had a

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>little problem. He left his wallet on his charter, playing

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<v Speaker 1>with his secretary.

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how it is, Elizabeth. You fly to sun

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Valley for a quick confact with Larry Ellison and you

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 1>forget your wallet in Jackson Hole, and then you tell Shirley,

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>your executive assistant. You're like, look, Shirley, I need you

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.719
<v Speaker 1>to fly to my Freedman Memorial Airport. It's in Haley, Idaho.

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Then rent a car, drive up to Sun Valley, grab

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 1>my wallet, and then fly back here to bring me

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>my ID. Can you do that, Shirley.

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Sounds oddly specific. Have you've gone through?

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying maybe I had a time as a

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>tech CEO. Anyway, that day, Tom Baker he had a

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>better answer than mine. His answer was to have his

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>secretary just facts over his driver's license to the dealership showroom.

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>So they wait a while. It takes a while. He

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>calls it darn it all, Elizabeth. He couldn't get his

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>secretary on the phone again. He didn't know what was happening. Well,

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we have to wait.

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 2>This is this is too much for him.

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>The car dealership sales team is like, you know what,

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. We trust you like, what are

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? Steal a bright red Ferrari and just

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>drive away? So apparently these sales folks weren't up on

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the latest news in Ferrari world, because that was exactly

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 1>what was happening up and down the Eastern seaboard.

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 2>How did this not spread?

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>This was two thousand and three, pre social media, so

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>unless you're reading like local news reports, you might have

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>missed it.

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Friends, it was apparently there's not a whisper network among

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the Ferraris.

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I talked to a couple of Farrii dealers when I

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>was reporting on the story originally, and they are friendly,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but they're also really competitive, so I see they're not

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, on a network on how is your sales, Bob?

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna lie to each other about their sales. They're

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>not like telling each other, oh, we had a Ferrari.

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I mean, like if you have, like I

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know, is there like a facts list of apbs

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>where they're like the first dude's still there?

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Actually we will get into that. There are registrars and

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>so forth for stolen cars. See okay, but that's a

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>whole other situation than the car dealers.

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so this, like I said, non to descript

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 1>white guy, CEO business dude, he's got going off for

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>his test drive. They're like, no problem.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.360
<v Speaker 2>You know what, though, take my sixteen year old daughter.

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a sixteen year old daughter on hand

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>right now, so we're gonna have to send one of

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 1>our sales guys with you. So they did. They send

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>out the sales guy with him. He just caught, you know,

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he crawled in the car and he's like, all right,

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>let's go for a drive, buddy. Here, how fast do

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to go? Try not to lose control of

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>the car. These things are real fast, right, So the

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes go by, the guy is whipping around. The

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>test drive is going great, he hasn't lost control of

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the car. Perspective. Buyer is loving it. He decided, you

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>know what, this handles so well, it's so fast, it

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>feels so sexy. I'm buying this beauty car. Did the salesman.

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like stoked, like, oh, I'm getting a bonus. So

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>he's like, okay, let's head back to the dealership. And

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>guy was like yeah, but he's like, you know what,

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna change my mind for a second, you know.

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>He pulls over to the side of the road. He's like,

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to drive it back. Do you mind

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>driving the rest of the way back?

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 2>A little scammed right, And the.

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Guy's like, you know, I've been lucky so far. I

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to press my luck. This is a seven

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars card. I hate for

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>anything bad dappen you if I crashed on the way back.

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna buy it. Let's just have you driving.

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Nick Guy's like, I appreciate that man. You're looking out

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>for me, Like that good looking a guy. You're a

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>real square gofella. Right, So he opens the door. He

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>pops out. The guy in the driver's seat he Tom Baker.

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>He pushes open his door right, and as soon as

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the salesman closes his door, he hears the other door closed,

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't hear any footsteps, and he turns around

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and boom, he hears that distinctive per the Ferrari engine

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>as it races away. Oh my god, the bright red

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>sports car tore out of there. I mean, just the

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>way the guy describes it. He said, it's like it flew.

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>The Ferrari raced away. It speeds, approaching one hundred miles

0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>an hour. He just slammed the accelerator. I don't know

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you know about this, but a Ferrari can get up

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to one hundred miles in about four to five seconds.

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 2>So like the whiplash exactly.

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Dude's like just throw them back in his seat. And

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the port salesman on the side of the road just

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 1>sitting there eating dust.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and his spirit's broken, and another salesman's spirits broke.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>The fate humanity loss. So he watches helplessly as this

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari lifts up over a rise in the road and

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>disappears from view, never to be seen again. Oh my god,

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>but this time we now know when this car would

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>be seen again. I will tell you this one is

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>not so much never to be seen again. We'll be

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>seen again in five years time. Oh, in two thousand

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and eight. We'll resurface. But first we need to catch

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>up with Tom Baker here. Yeah is that even his

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>real name?

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>I doubt it, But can I.

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Ask you a favor? Sure? Okay, all this talk with Ferrari's,

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we need an Elizabeth impression of my

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>man Thomas magnum p I aka Tom Selleck. Oh, Mike,

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you can favor me with a little Tom Selleck as

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>magnum p I.

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, just a hint, yeah, let me okay, make it ready,

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>lick of the mustache and the Tanna Shultz.

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, so good, perfect. I could feel the thigh meat

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>and the mustache wrestling in the Hawaiian wind in the mustache. Okay,

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that was so awesome. Now, trying to bring our detective

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>into this story, Interdetective Joe Hess of the Lexington, Kentucky

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Metro Police Department. Today. At this point the year of

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven, detective has He's just working on

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.239
<v Speaker 1>normal type cases when he receives this strange calls from

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the National Insurance Crime Bureau. Never heard of its totally,

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd never heard of them. I'm like, what is the NICB. Well,

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>if you've never heard of the NICB, like me, it's

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>not an actual government agency. They just try to sound

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>like one. NICB is a nonprofit crime fighting bureau. It

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you support their crime fighters, you get an

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>NICB tope.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly.

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So. The agency apparently has one hundred and ten year history.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>It started out as two different nonprofits, National Automobile Theft

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Bureau and the Insurance Crime Prevention Institute. Together in nineteen

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>ninety two, they reformed as a National Insurance Crime Bureau.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Scam totally feels.

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Like, probably get someone who listens works for them and

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>it'll be all I am offended.

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'll see. No, it seems pretty legit anyway. So

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Detective Joe Hasse he gets a call from an agent

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>from the NICB. The bureau had received a call from Ferrari,

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the Italian car maker. The car maker wanted them to

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>look into details of a nineteen eighty five Testa Rosa.

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>The owner of the car had contacted Ferrari in Italy

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and asked for identification stickers to be sent to him.

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>He claimed needed replacements. Ferrari's like okay, So they checked

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>their vehicle identification number. It's then it didn't match the

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>serial numbers that Ferrari had on record. That was suspicious

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>enough for the car maker to reach out to the

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>agents at NICB and they're like, hey, did you mind

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>that checking on this for us? So then NICB they

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>reach out to Detective Joe Hess. Why Joe has Elizabeth,

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I wish I knew because the man who contacted Ferrari

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>was named Tom Baker, and the Italian car maker knew

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>where he lived. He told Ferrari that he lived in

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a suburb of Lexington, a place called Nicholasville. So Detective

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Hasse of Lexington assembles a task force. He has

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>FBI agents, Kentucky State Police officers, and ICB agents. Together,

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>they pay an unannounced visit to Tom Baker's house. They

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>show up at his door.

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Is he Oh my god?

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>The task force drove out to Nicholasville, Kentucky. They pulled

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>their caravan of like suburbans or whatever, right up in

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>front of a rather run of the mill home. It's

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a standard red bricks Southern home with a detached garage,

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like the breezeway. Yeah yeah, windows were covered,

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>lights off. It doesn't look like anyone's home. The agents

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>from the task worth, they're like, huh, what did we

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>do about this? They walk up to the door anyway,

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>They knock on the front door, surprising no one in

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the task for They received no answer. So what do

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they do, Elizabeth? When they do what cops do? They

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>left their business cards like sorry we missed you. We'll

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>try it again later. So if you get a business

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>card from the FBI, that has to be a tense moment.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I would think so.

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Although you know on Law and Order SBU, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>told by people who watch it.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I watch it. I might have been the one told you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Stabler, they have like the business card of death.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if they give you the card, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>not making.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>It through the episode, that's about accurate. So I mean,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>not that I watched the show, No, of course not.

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I would never think. You're presumed you watch TV. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>For Old Tom Baker, he handles this prodlor calmly. He

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>called the number on the business card. He didn't call

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Detective Joe has Instead, he called a different member of

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the task forse the card for Agent ed Stein, who

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>was a supervising special agent for the NICB. So Tom

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Baker phone Agent Stein, assuming it was about the Ferrari

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>stickers he'd requested, and probably presumably he also wanted to

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>hear what the NICB knew about him. Yeah, so Agent

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Stein tries to set a trap for Tom Baker. He

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>asked Tom if he had the Ferrari testosa in question.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Tom Baker's like, yeah, I got it, and he's like,

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not with me. I have in a storage

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>unit in a nearby town. It's about an hour and

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a half away, middle town called London, London, Kentucky. Guy's like,

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>oh okay, yeah, so Agent ed Stein, he's not some

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>paper pusher from the insurance bureau. I don't want you picture.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>And a guy with like, you know, pencils in his

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like shirt pocket. He was a former cop. He was

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the chief of police of Alexandria, Kentucky for eight and

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a half years. He was a well trained cop. He

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>had cop ins. He could sense that tom Baker was

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>acting elusive, a void, and so he tries to like

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>tell the suspect, you know, oh hey, we like to

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.959
<v Speaker 1>come out to you to confirm the then the vehicle's

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>identification number, and we'll issue you a new sticker authorization.

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And he tells tom Baker he'd happily make the hour

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and a half trip down to London to see the

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari himself.

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Tom Beker's like, oh, yeah, yeah, cool, let's do that.

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Let me check my calendar and I'll call you back.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>And then he hung up and Agent Stein knew he'd

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>never hear from Tom Baker ever again. And he was right, Elizabeth,

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>because Tom Baker is once again in the wind. Tom

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Baker never returned to his house in Nicholasville. The trail

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>went cold as a pimp's heart, just like the Ferrari

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>he stole. Tom Baker just up and disappeared.

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>So that's his real name is Tom yep turns out

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>to his real name.

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And Detective Joe Hess and his multi agency task force,

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they broke up like the Beatles, each going their own

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>separate ways, Detective Joe Hess, but he's still that itch,

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that one that special investigators like you get, is like, yeah,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that feeling you can't shake it, right, and you just

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>have the case haunting you well less than a year past,

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and Joe Hess, he got to scratch that crime itch. Yeah,

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>this time is the FBI that contacted him. Oh the

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>year was two thousand and eight June. And after this break,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you all about what happens and how this

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari theft gets his just desserts. All right, Elizabeth.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Zarin, We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you ready? Yes, buckled up? Yes, okay, butter Cup,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Two thousand and eight June, Buffalo Division

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>of the FBI get information on a Ferrari Testosa that's

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>up for sale in Lexington, Kentucky. I don't know why

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Division gets this tip, but they do.

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>It got shuffled off to Buffalo exactly boom.

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>So they turns out they have this guy Tom Baker,

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>apparently not involved at all as far as Buffalo people

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>are concerned. They so. At first, Joe has doesn't understand

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>why he's being reached out to. But instead it's this

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>woman named Carol Pulos and the cars for sale on

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>eBay and they list price is forty six thousand dollars,

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>so it's gone now gone down nine thousand dollars.

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>The car was bought and sold, but then the new

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>owner had tried to registrate with Ferrari and he discovered

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that the VIN didn't match the car paperwork. The number

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>for the recently sold Ferrari was coincidentally just off by

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>one digit from the VIN of a Ferrari that had

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>been stolen from a Long Island dealership. Oh Man, he

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>changed just one number, one number the detective Joe has

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>in the FBI. They reteamed like the Eagles for one

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>last tour. And they went and they paid a visit

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to the woman Carol Pulos, who sold the Bunko Ferrari.

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Now the question is does she know Tom Baker and

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>would she flip? Yeah, So turns out the FBI is

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>at her door. What is she gonna do? Not just

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>like leaving a card. They're knock knock, knocking. Yeah, when

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the FBI shows up at the front door. Carl Pulus,

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>she did the smart thing, Elizabeth. She did not lie

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to the FBI.

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>That is the smartest thing anyone can do.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I recommend it to everybody before. Do not lie to

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the FBI. Just don't just don't say anything. Uh huh,

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>give me a lawyer, but do not lie. Lie. They

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>will get you, yes, and it's a big crime anyway,

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 1>it's like mail fraud. Just don't do it. In fact,

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>this woman Carol Pulos, she did the smartest thing possible

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>for her in that moment. She told them everything she knew.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>She told the agent she didn't own the car, she

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>was just handling the sales. She sold the car for

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a friend. Well it wasn't actually a friend, it was

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>just someone she knew. Was this guy named Tom Baker.

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>She was like, right, she said that he owed her

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand dollars and this is his way of paying

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>her back. She wasn't involved at all and she was

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>just trying to get her money. And they're like, okay, lady,

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it's right, calm down here, We're not gonna bust you. Right,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>turned out the stolen Testeros and get seized and pounded.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But it had already been paid for by Lloyd's of

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>London that was the insurer for the car dealership. So

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the car gets returned to Lloyd's of London. Ya, now

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>they own it, right. So now Joe Hess Though has

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>got a lead. He's back on the trail this elusive

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari thief and he gets to work. He works the

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>leads he hads, He phones up all this fellow lawmen.

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He contacts the dedicated detectives with the NYPD. He asked

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 1>them if they would do him a solid, would they

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>run out to Long Island and ask the salesman there

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>if he could idea a photo of the suspect from

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a lineup.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Now, I do have a quick question. Sure, do we

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>know why Tom owed that woman twenty grand?

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>No, we just think he's a con artist type. That's interesting,

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>must have been involved in some scampsship. Does not come out.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I assume there's some criminal components, okay, and she did

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>not want to make that clear. So she's like, you know,

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>he just owes me. It's like antiques or something, right. Anyway,

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So the NYPD detectives are asked by Joe has to

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>go out to Long Island and talk to the salesman

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>from the car dealer and go, hey, can you ID

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>this guy? See if he's Tom Baker. The dedicated detectives

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>of the NYPD were like, bet we got you blue.

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>So the cops showed the salesman, the guy named Faisal Sajad,

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the photo lineup and he immediately picked out Tom Baker.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like, that's the guy. We here's this positive ID detected.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Joe has phones Fisle and he asked him point blank

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you sure it's him? Right? He told Faisal, you're positive

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>this is the guy. I mean, it's been a few

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>years since he stole from you, right, And he's like

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and Fisl was like, and I quote, detective, you never

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>forget the man who stole a ferrari from you. So

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>now that he had a positive ID and a hot lead.

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Detective Joe has He works the modern equivalent of shoe leather.

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>He works the phone lines, the online databasis. He finds

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 1>a hit. There was an er doc from the Lexington

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>area who recently purchased a previously owned Ferrari, but not

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>just any Ferrari Elizabeth. This er doc bought a Ferrari

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>F fifty Oh wondering, he paid three hundred and seventy

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars for the hot red number that was

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the one that was like almost seven hundred and thirty

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars value, so real, we need to move this

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>hot car kind of deal right now. Remind you, this

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>is car is just one of three hundred and forty nine.

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So the buyer doctor just beard delon. He contacted Ferrari

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>looking to register his car, because apparently if you buyer

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari's is the first thing you do, you contact Ferri?

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Can I register this thing? And yet again Ferrari had

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 1>to inform the new buyer that unfortunately his paperwork did

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>not match theirs, and in fact, the car matched a

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>vent Over Ferrari that had been stolen from a Pennsylvania showroom.

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>The VR doc contacts the man he bought the car

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>from and the seller. This guy tom Baker, promises to

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>return his money to him. He didn't know why there'd

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>be in any issue with the vin This is just ridiculous,

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 1>but he'll happily make it right. Tom Baker actually did

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>send the doctor his money back.

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're kidding.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And but the car at this point is evidence.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>So instead of getting the money and the car back,

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the FBI sees is the car and the and the

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>money because they're both involved in the crowd. Oh so

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>now he if the car is being held for the

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>insurance company, which already had paid the ard More Pennsylvania

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>dealer showroom, So the insurance company is gonna get the.

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Car, the money's being held a garage by.

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Now exactly, Actually, though this one is a different insurance.

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Firm than everybody's. Lloyd's of Lundon.

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I like your spirits, let's go with that. Now, the

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 1>FBI detective Joe Hess, they're drawing in close to capturing

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>their man. It was just a matter of time until

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they catch tom Baker. I mean, if he'd slip up

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>at all, they'd be there to catch him. So Joe

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>has he has his arrest warrant. At this point, all

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>he needs to do is find the guy. Yeah, serve it.

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Of course, though he knows he can't be too cocky

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>because Tom Baker stayed on the lamb for years. At

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>this point, he can always flee the country and Ferraris

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>they so well overseas. I mean he goes over to

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Japan or Dubai or even like Russia, he could be

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>truly gone. So Detective Joe Hess and his multi agency

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>task for us, they plan their next move, but they

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>catch a break. Before they can make their next move,

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the biggest break a cop could catch. Tom Baker walks

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>into the Lexington Police Department and turns himself in. Noah.

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>It turns out his most expensive storm Ferrari, the F

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty once it had been impounded by the FBI, and

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.720
<v Speaker 1>he'd give him back the money he'd lost his big score.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have the money to flee the country. He

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>had no way to run, so he tries to cut

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 1>a deal. Yeah, he comes in and he's like, look,

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I got other Ferraris. I'll give them back to you

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>if we can talk about a little leniency in court

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>for the old Tom Baker. Oh no, so the detective

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Hess and the FBI agreed to this plea deal. They

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>go like, all right, fine, man, to show us this

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>other Ferrari. On the October two thousand and eight, Joe

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Hes meets Tom Baker at a storch and the elusive

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>car thief. He reveals to the stubborn law man the

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>last of the stolen ferraris the curious thing. Though for

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Detective Joe Hess was less about this car. It really

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't about the car at this point. He wanted to

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>know about this car thief and right, so finally he

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>gets to meet the man in person, because he wasn't

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>there when he walked into the police station. Right, this

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>is his moments after a year and a half, he

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>gets to meet him. A detective has just finds it

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>really odd that Tom Baker's dressed exactly like a pilot

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>when he meets him a pilot, it gets no ruse,

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>no costume. He didn't go down to like the Halloween

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>spirit store and said I need a costume for the road,

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like a sexy pilot cost This is his work uniform.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>He is a legit pilot. It turns out the car

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>thief worked for the Economical airline Jet Blue. Tom Baker, dashing,

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>daring Ferrari thief was actually a middle aged divorce father

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of two who flew for Jet Blue and his hobby

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was stealing high price ferraris what. Yes, So after he

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>was caught, or rather after he cheered himself in, Yeah,

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>this is far from the end of his ridiculous crimes.

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Because first the FBI had to get into some ridiculousness

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of their own. Because on May twenty seventh, two thousand

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and nine, a special agent for the FBI and an

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>assistant attorney for the Department of Justice, they were tasked

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>with the transfer of the stolen Ferrari F fifty, the

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>one from there. You had to move it from one

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>holding place to another.

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Rather than get like a truck to hal they decide

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>they just drive it themselves. Only they weren't nearly the

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>driver that Tom Baker was. Yeah. Oh man, you know what, Elizabeth,

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Rather than me tell you about it, close your eyes. Oh,

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd ask you to picture it. It's a bright spring

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>day in May two thousand and nine, and you, Elizabeth,

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>are enjoying the day as a regal moth aka the

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>royal walnut moth from the moth family Saturnati. Now, much

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>like my man Schwangzoo, you may just be a woman

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>dreaming that she's a moth. Or perhaps you've always been

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a moth who's been dreaming she was a woman. So

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>true either way, at the moment, you're very recently left

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>behind your prior life as a hickory horned devil caterpillar. First,

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you spun yourself a chrysalis inside your coccoon, you dissolved

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>all of your body tissues, rendering it down to some

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 1>protoplasmic goop. And then over time you reformed yourself as

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a moth. Then you eventually broke up in your chrysalis,

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you stretched your new wings and took to the sky.

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.720
<v Speaker 1>And now on your day too, as a moth, you flip,

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you float, You gently ride the spring breeze. As you

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 1>glide on currents of breeze and then the soft spring air.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>You hear this sound approach. It's the purr of a

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>high performance engine, which means very little to you. You

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>flap your wings and try to gain some elevation, but

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you are one unlucky moth. The noise is faster than

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you anticipate, and what feels like I'm mere second and

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a half. You were suddenly whipped down by the speed

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>of wind and flat you get stuck to the windshield

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.240
<v Speaker 1>of a speeding Ferrari. Nice you were plastered to the glasses.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 1>The red sports car races down a quiet Kentucky country road.

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>This is not how you imagine life as a moth

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 1>would go. But there you are, Ukraine. Your mothhead around

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>is spied through the glass of the windshield. Two men,

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>both are wearing big, dumb grins, the kind they come

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>from driving or Ferrari really fast. Behind the wheel is

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>FBI special agent Frederick Kingston and shotgun assistant US Attorney

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Jay Hamilton Thompson. You don't know this, but he's the

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>man prosecuting the guy who stole this car, a man

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>named Tom Baker. At the moment, pinned to the windshield,

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you try, they get used to the fuel of the wind,

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of speed, and then out of nowhere you hear this

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>strange sound. There's a boom sound, followed by a squeal

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>of wheels. The Ferrans swerves hard to the right, then

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>over crash. It swerves hard to the left.

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Boom again.

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>The super rare Ferrari slams into a tree. It's the

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 1>low squat bushes. You flap your wings. The wind of

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>speed is gone and has done no damage to you.

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You lift up into the blue of the sky. You

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>shake your moth head at the FBI agent who just

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>crashed a seven hundred and thirty thousand dollars supercar. The

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>doj attorney starts cussing up a storm. You laugh in

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.919
<v Speaker 1>moth as you take one look back and see what's

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>left of the car. The driver's side door is split,

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>carbon fiber exposed to the air earth. The dog attorney

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 1>is turning all sorts of colors as he continues to

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>cuss at the FBI agent who's just shaking his head.

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>You turn and feel the sun on your face as

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you fly off to find a quieter country road. Oo

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I just so after that, Yeah, agent, we lot's control

0:43:57.800 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Ferrari and slammed into a tree. While joy

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>riding slammed into a tree is destroyed. It that left

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice in a hell of a sticky

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>situation because the insurance company he'd already paid out on

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the seven hundred and thirty thousand dollars claim, so they

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>were now the owner of the stolen Ferrari, and they

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted the car they had purchased, so they asked about

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the car, and the DOJ got real quiet, real quick.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Eventually Motors Insurance grew up. They had to file a

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>lawsuit against the DOJ. In it, the company claimed that

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>their property was destroyed quote while the Ferrari was being

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>detained by the FBI. Thus the FBI was responsible to

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>make it right. And the dj is on the hook too,

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>so the FBI equally Mum, nobody's saying anything. The lawsuit

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>catches media attention, that becomes a story, and then the

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>story of an FBI agent crashing a stolen super rare

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari became a regisensation, got a lot of attention. Someone

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>had to say something, so eventually Charles Miller, a spokesman

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>for the Department of Justice, came forward. He answered questions

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.879
<v Speaker 1>about where the missing Ferrari was. Miller said he didn't

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>know where it was. He said, I quote, I know

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not in my garage, Are you kidding me? That's

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>where it's left. As for the whereabouts and that mangled

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>f fifty one of only three hundred and forty nine,

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>apparently no one knows where it's being stored. It was

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>finally fully disappeared, lost in the paperwork stolen by the

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice. Yes, the FBI casually stole a sports card.

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>They're like, what what do you look? Don't look at us,

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that's insane. So as for Tom Baker, what became of

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the jet Blue pilot with the karthief?

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Yea, what became of the Jetsube pilot.

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Was sentenced to a mere eight months in prison, but

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 1>no doubt the wildest part of his sentencing had to

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>be the terms of his imprisonment. He only had to

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>go to prison two days a week, Elizabeth Wait. The

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 1>rest of the time, he was allowed to go to

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the airport so he could quote make his scheduled flight

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>from Lexington, Kentucky to our Lando, Florida for purposes of

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>his employment. He was making the Disneyland run or disney

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 1>World run rather. So they're like, we got to get

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 1>those tourists down to disney World. We need Tom Baker.

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 2>That look on your face, So like, first of all,

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>you're sitting on a plane and it's a felon flying

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 2>you around.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you have no idea some jailbird taking you.

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.800
<v Speaker 2>From one place to the next the hell of a pilot.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was just like European thing where they

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 2>let people check out gently.

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>In Kentucky they led pilots. Yeah, exactly, So dude kept

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>rut on flying. But if you can believe it, Tom

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Baker story is not quite done because I haven't told

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you about his boat crimes. Sorry, yacht crimes. It was

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, a Tompick was once again a free man.

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>He'd put his criminal pass behind him. Now he was

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a luxury yacht owner. He was also a heavy drinker.

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>The two hobbies they kind of go together, like chocolate

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and peanut butter. But they were also at cross purposes.

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>So one day, or rather one night around two fifteen am,

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>drinking one out and he sank his yacht. In fact,

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he crashed it, and not just into another boat or

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a ship, as people prefer he did like I would

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have done. He crashed it into the sand. He hit land.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>He crashed his seventy two foot yacht into the shores

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of Palm Peach, Florida.

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.439
<v Speaker 2>How does he a four to seventy two foot yacht.

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm in piloting, I don't know right, So

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it is liquored up on Long Island Iced Teas and

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>he just drives his boat right into the earth right now.

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable.

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Long Island Iced Tea, as you know, is a professional

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 1>alcoholics drinker.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Everything in it.

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's got like four or five different liquors in it.

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Like if you're an alcoholic, that's like it'll get you there, right,

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 1>he'll get your sideways quickly. So drunk Tom Baker, he

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>crashes his seventy two foot yacht into the beach. What

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>does he do next to Elizabeth?

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 2>From what we know of this guy steals a car.

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Does he steal a car and drive away? No? Does

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>he steal another boat and try to flee? Also? No,

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>he has a whole other p He pops off the boat,

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>he leaves it there, just careening on the shore, leaking oil,

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>gas whatever else. He decides to fight the case because, surprise, surprise,

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 1>this would be tom Baker's second boating under the influence

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>charge in less than a month's time.

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>You're kidding me.

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So, tom Baker argued that it wasn't his fault or

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the booze's fault to cause the crash into the shore.

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>It was the boat's GPS and more than that, he

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 1>was adamant about this fact. So he went on the offense.

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>He sued the city of Palm Beach. He sued the

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>police department. He demanded four hundred and fifty thousand dollars

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in damages. Now, how how could he a party in this? Yeah,

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the one suing the cops. Well, his legal argument was

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.760
<v Speaker 1>quote that the cops had a legal obligation to secure

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and tow his property when he was arrested, but they

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 1>had failed to do that, so it was there. Now.

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:56.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the law works in Florida. In fact,

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone does. But somehow this bizarre legal

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.720
<v Speaker 1>strategy worked and tom Baker had no BUI charges dropped

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 1>and he pleaded down to a reckless operation of him. Yeah,

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and this is the secret to his criminal success, Elizabeth.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Tom Baker is powered by a unique criminal imagination. He

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>could pretend to be super rich, but mostly it's just

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>his confidence. Yeah, it's just gonna work out for tom Baker.

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's gonna be fine for tom Baker. It

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if it's a boat, Long Island, ice Tea,

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 1>or Ferrari. He knew how to make it work for

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>him and Joke's side quote. Detective Joe has said he

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>had a story, who he was, how he was dressed,

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>He looked the part, He knew the right words, he

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 1>knew the right questions to ask, And that, Elizabeth, is

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 1>how you steal a Ferrari. You ask the right questions,

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you always blame your secretary, and you know, wear a

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>tie because those things make your words sound more believable.

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>If you don't believe me, just look at politicians.

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Act like you know exactly.

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 1>It's what you always say, act like. So there you go.

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>What's a ridiculous takeaway?

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, just act like you know. But also, speaking

0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 2>of Ferrari, I saw a trailer for the Ferrari movies.

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, with your new favorite Italian accent?

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Why why why do they have Adam Driver?

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Why? You know like Adam and his accent, he's a perfect.

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Did you see House of Gucci?

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I did not see it at the movie?

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so bad? Is it good? It's the accent?

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Actually I did see you maybe watch a clip of

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it on YouTube. You see the clips? Exciting?

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Terrible?

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I did not meet the ball. This is the hell

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you doing? Italian accent?

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they all sound like Mario Brothers and so yeah,

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and father Guidos Serducci. So yeah, my takeaway is like,

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 2>don't do Enzo Ferrari like that?

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Apparently it did really got a six minute standing ovation

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>at the Venice Film Festival. And they are Italians, Elizabeth.

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Means Italians in there. It's all a bunch of foreigners

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 2>coming in there to watch.

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>The movie, Germans and French people.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's that, you know, if you want to see

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like little glimpses of it, it's good. There's the documentary

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 2>about the Fiat guy.

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's dope. Yeah, and their whole like rivalry with

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you get a bunch in there. Yeah, that has got

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>some ridiculous time.

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>So that is a really ridiculous way to give a takeaway.

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Well, thank you for asking what mine is.

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have one, So there you go.

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 2>You told the story. You don't need one.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, there, I'm free. You're free, Look, Genie, I'm free.

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.240
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0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.080
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0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:28.239
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<v Speaker 1>check that out. It wins Design Awards. There's merch you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy. It's also like a dating site apparently. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>You can email us if you want a ridiculous crime

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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com. As always, remember dear Elizabeth and

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<v Speaker 1>then start your email. Okay, thanks for listening. We'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>you next Crime. Because Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton

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<v Speaker 1>and Zaren Burnett, produce and edited by Dave. Remember Ferrari

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<v Speaker 1>has the Horse, Lamborghini has the Bull. Houston. Research is

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<v Speaker 1>by Maria I prefer to steal American cars Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea I'd only steal an anime car song, Sharpened Tears.

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<v Speaker 1>Our theme song is by Thomas Vroom Vroom Lee and Travis.

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<v Speaker 1>Grandma called me Barney Oldfield Dot. The host wardrobe provided

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<v Speaker 1>by Botany five hundred. Executive producers are Ben the f

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<v Speaker 1>n FBI stands for fun, Bolan, and Noel. The B

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<v Speaker 1>stands for balloons, Brown