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Speaker 1: Well okay, my question was this, it's I just need

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I knew you would.

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Speaker 2: I do golden toilet? What a golden toilet?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you cover this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about a golden guy steals a golden toilet.

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Speaker 2: Marizio catalan Uh an artist, he made that solid gold

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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yourself.

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Speaker 2: I ran out of ridiculous. No no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: golden toilet, right, and when I told you about it.

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Speaker 2: Originally they had seven people that were suspects, but they

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Speaker 2: two rude dudes, Patrick Kovich, who is a home brewer

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Speaker 2: two fascinating fellows. They tipped us off that there's an

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Speaker 2: article in art net headline great website. UK authorities are

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Speaker 2: ready to charge seven suspects over the twenty nineteen theft

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Speaker 2: of Mauricio Catalan's gold toilet sculpture.

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Speaker 2: All seven. So there were the seven suspects. Now they're

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Speaker 1: Unlucky number seven.

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Speaker 2: Unlucky number seven. So they do believe that it was

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Speaker 2: melted down and people are wearing toilet gold. But we

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Speaker 2: may be able to like pin it on somebody. That

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Speaker 2: was a cool update from Patrick and Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to you, Patrick and Jimmy. Yeah, good looking.

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Speaker 2: Out, hooray. And that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: That is thank you. Well you you got another second? Sure,

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Speaker 1: because I got one for you. It doesn't evolve any

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Speaker 1: gold toilets, damn it, bumbs nothing, Okay. But you know

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Speaker 1: I love to go fast. Yes, speed is my thing

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Speaker 1: in every milliu yeah completely Now, unsurprisingly I also love

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Speaker 1: stories of high speed vehicular theft. No, I know, all right,

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Speaker 1: shock shock shock, But oh boy, do I have one

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Speaker 1: for you today, Elizabeth. Get ready for the doctor Who

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Speaker 1: of Carthieves. Oh god, this is ridiculous crime. A podcast

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Speaker 1: about I'm surd and outrageous Kper's heists and cons. It's

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Speaker 1: always ninety nine percent moder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Elizabeth, Yeah, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Do you like movies about gladiators? Hmmm?

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Speaker 2: You know Gladiator was a good movie.

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Speaker 1: You ever see a grown man naked? Yeah? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna the dinamic airplane?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I do have a legit question for you, though, sir?

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Speaker 1: Do you like movies about Carthive's.

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Speaker 1: Nick Cage and Angelina Jolie's Gym Gone in sixty Seconds.

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Speaker 1: Now before he stole a nineteen eighty nine Ferrari three

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Speaker 2: Opinion get a little zap under the table there.

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Speaker 1: Totally super nice of him, right, I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Tom Baker was no doctor.

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Speaker 1: Well? He was what you and I would call a liar.

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Speaker 1: Who? Exactly what? Doctor Who? Who? Doctor? I know?

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Speaker 1: Named Tom Baker. The character is always doctor.

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Speaker 1: O seven how like, okay, the number can be it's like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, they have different actors played Doctor Who, always

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Speaker 1: So this guy is Steve the car Dealer, right, he

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So does he often put his daughter in the car?

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Speaker 1: And a steal. So tom Baker was interested in buying it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, Steve Barney recalled quote. I was conned, I

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Speaker 1: So he wasn't a word loath to discuss this time

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Speaker 2: Oh, he did he offer you his sixteen year old daughter?

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Speaker 1: I asked, uh, Steve, I said, if he remembered that

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Speaker 1: He told me that he was never offered any free

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Speaker 2: Of my cant What did he think you were calling

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Speaker 1: Exact well, Ferrari's I think he thought I was calling

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Speaker 1: I see, No, he had no idea. So anyway, I

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Speaker 1: and again. It was three months later to be exact.

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Speaker 1: Tom Baker left North Carolina behind. He was now on

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I do. That was a Miami vice car.

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Speaker 1: a test drive. If anything, the salesman he was talking to,

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00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 1: he thought he just wanted to hear the engine turn on.

436
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 1: That's what he kind of told the guy. So what

437
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: happened was the salesman hands on the keys. He slides

438
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: in to just like turn the car over.

439
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: So let me just hear this baby per exactly now.

440
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: The salesman's like, of course, sir, sorry, yes. Then he

441
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: turns around, I don't know, like Papa breath man or something.

442
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 1: And then Tom Baker gets comfortable in that buttersoft other seat.

443
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 1: He eases his hands onto that wheel wrath, he feels

444
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 1: the accelerator under his foot, and baby did the ponies

445
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 1: call to him? So the Ferrari did indeed per when

446
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: he turned it over, and it purred like Italian soul music.

447
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: And then he was like I got to hear it

448
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: start to sing, and he floored it and just drove

449
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: away from that showroom and just dropped it into gear

450
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: and drive right off the lot, never to be seen again.

451
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: Wait, are neither of these Ferraris have ever been recovered?

452
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: Nope, he's gone.

453
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: Someone's driving around.

454
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Well, eventually I will tell you what

455
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: becomes of Tom Baker and we do find a Ferrari

456
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: here that Okay, they're gone for a long time though, Yeah,

457
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 1: because dude had disappeared like doubled eggs at a southern pot. Look,

458
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 1: he was gone, right, Yeah, So the felonious Ferrari Fisionado

459
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: with a taste for test drive theft. What does he

460
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: get into next? Well, it's two thousand and three, right

461
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: as we've been hanging out in mm hmm watching these

462
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: Ferraris get free. Well, that same year, Tom Baker walks

463
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: into a showroom of Algar Ferrari in Ardmore, Pennsylvania. Town's

464
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: a nice suburb. I don't know if you know it.

465
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: It's a high end car dealerships to match the type

466
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: of town it is. It's like a little like bedroom

467
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: community for the New York Philadelphia area. Yeah, exactly. So

468
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 1: the Alger Ferrari dealership in Ardmore, Pennsylvania, they're just, you know,

469
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: selling Ferraris that day, and all of a sudden, a

470
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: rather nondescript five foot ten white man walks into the

471
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: luxury car dealership. Turns out this dude is Tom Baker.

472
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: Now is the only time we get an actual description

473
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: of him. The salesman from the showroom would later recall

474
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: that he had ruddy brown hair, like kind of a

475
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: reddish color. It was cut short and neat, like a

476
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: military guy. He wore non memorable clothes. He had a

477
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: white shirt with a tie, just playing all itIt shirt

478
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: and a He had a notable gold rolex on his wrist,

479
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: so that kind of gave him the gravitas for election

480
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: by a flash. He also wore tortoise shell glasses, which

481
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but that just feels like wealth.

482
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: It codes money, it doesn't. So this nondescript white businessman

483
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: in tortoiseshell glasses and a rolex, he set an appointment

484
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: for a test drive of Ferrari. Right, so he comes in,

485
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: he says, I would like to take out the nineteen

486
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: ninety six Ferrari F fifty Now, if you know anything

487
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: about one fifty big old chunky tires, it was.

488
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: It was a spec car.

489
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: Now, the f fifty, not named for fifty cent, was

490
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: a limited edition run that Ferrari made and there were

491
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: only three hundred and forty nine of them built. Yeah,

492
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: the car was created to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of

493
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: Enzo Ferrari's company and it's continued success.

494
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

495
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: Car was valued at seven hundred and twenty nine thousand

496
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: dollars at the time. Yeah, so this in Walks is nondescript.

497
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: White guy businessman set up an appointment for his test drive,

498
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: says he's flown in from Itta. He says also he's

499
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: originally from Oklahoma. But he also says he was a

500
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: CEO from a California tech firm. His lies are just

501
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: by coastal and his soul is in flyover country. So

502
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: he paints his good picture right. He tells the salespeople

503
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: from the dealer showroom that he left his limousine parked

504
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: in a nearby supermarket and he hoofed it over out

505
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: of here. Yeah. Oh yeah, he's got everything right. But

506
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: you see this phony tech ceo. He also had a

507
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: little problem. He left his wallet on his charter, playing

508
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: with his secretary.

509
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, all the time.

510
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: You know how it is, Elizabeth. You fly to sun

511
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: Valley for a quick confact with Larry Ellison and you

512
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: forget your wallet in Jackson Hole, and then you tell Shirley,

513
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: your executive assistant. You're like, look, Shirley, I need you

514
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 1: to fly to my Freedman Memorial Airport. It's in Haley, Idaho.

515
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: Then rent a car, drive up to Sun Valley, grab

516
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: my wallet, and then fly back here to bring me

517
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: my ID. Can you do that, Shirley.

518
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: Sounds oddly specific. Have you've gone through?

519
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying maybe I had a time as a

520
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: tech CEO. Anyway, that day, Tom Baker he had a

521
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: better answer than mine. His answer was to have his

522
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: secretary just facts over his driver's license to the dealership showroom.

523
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: So they wait a while. It takes a while. He

524
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: calls it darn it all, Elizabeth. He couldn't get his

525
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: secretary on the phone again. He didn't know what was happening. Well,

526
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: we have to wait.

527
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: This is this is too much for him.

528
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: The car dealership sales team is like, you know what,

529
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We trust you like, what are

530
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Steal a bright red Ferrari and just

531
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: drive away? So apparently these sales folks weren't up on

532
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: the latest news in Ferrari world, because that was exactly

533
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: what was happening up and down the Eastern seaboard.

534
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: How did this not spread?

535
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: This was two thousand and three, pre social media, so

536
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: unless you're reading like local news reports, you might have

537
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: missed it.

538
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: Friends, it was apparently there's not a whisper network among

539
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: the Ferraris.

540
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: I talked to a couple of Farrii dealers when I

541
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: was reporting on the story originally, and they are friendly,

542
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: but they're also really competitive, so I see they're not

543
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: like you know, on a network on how is your sales, Bob?

544
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna lie to each other about their sales. They're

545
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: not like telling each other, oh, we had a Ferrari.

546
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, like if you have, like I

547
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: don't know, is there like a facts list of apbs

548
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: where they're like the first dude's still there?

549
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: Actually we will get into that. There are registrars and

550
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: so forth for stolen cars. See okay, but that's a

551
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: whole other situation than the car dealers.

552
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

553
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, so this, like I said, non to descript

554
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: white guy, CEO business dude, he's got going off for

555
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: his test drive. They're like, no problem.

556
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: You know what, though, take my sixteen year old daughter.

557
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't have a sixteen year old daughter on hand

558
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: right now, so we're gonna have to send one of

559
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: our sales guys with you. So they did. They send

560
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: out the sales guy with him. He just caught, you know,

561
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: he crawled in the car and he's like, all right,

562
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: let's go for a drive, buddy. Here, how fast do

563
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: you want to go? Try not to lose control of

564
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: the car. These things are real fast, right, So the

565
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: twenty minutes go by, the guy is whipping around. The

566
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: test drive is going great, he hasn't lost control of

567
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: the car. Perspective. Buyer is loving it. He decided, you

568
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: know what, this handles so well, it's so fast, it

569
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: feels so sexy. I'm buying this beauty car. Did the salesman.

570
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: It's like stoked, like, oh, I'm getting a bonus. So

571
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: he's like, okay, let's head back to the dealership. And

572
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: guy was like yeah, but he's like, you know what,

573
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change my mind for a second, you know.

574
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: He pulls over to the side of the road. He's like,

575
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to drive it back. Do you mind

576
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: driving the rest of the way back?

577
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: A little scammed right, And the.

578
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: Guy's like, you know, I've been lucky so far. I

579
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: don't want to press my luck. This is a seven

580
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars card. I hate for

581
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: anything bad dappen you if I crashed on the way back.

582
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna buy it. Let's just have you driving.

583
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Nick Guy's like, I appreciate that man. You're looking out

584
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: for me, Like that good looking a guy. You're a

585
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: real square gofella. Right, So he opens the door. He

586
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: pops out. The guy in the driver's seat he Tom Baker.

587
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: He pushes open his door right, and as soon as

588
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: the salesman closes his door, he hears the other door closed,

589
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: but he doesn't hear any footsteps, and he turns around

590
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: and boom, he hears that distinctive per the Ferrari engine

591
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: as it races away. Oh my god, the bright red

592
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: sports car tore out of there. I mean, just the

593
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: way the guy describes it. He said, it's like it flew.

594
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: The Ferrari raced away. It speeds, approaching one hundred miles

595
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: an hour. He just slammed the accelerator. I don't know

596
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you know about this, but a Ferrari can get up

597
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: to one hundred miles in about four to five seconds.

598
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: So like the whiplash exactly.

599
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Dude's like just throw them back in his seat. And

600
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: the port salesman on the side of the road just

601
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: sitting there eating dust.

602
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and his spirit's broken, and another salesman's spirits broke.

603
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: The fate humanity loss. So he watches helplessly as this

604
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: Ferrari lifts up over a rise in the road and

605
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: disappears from view, never to be seen again. Oh my god,

606
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: but this time we now know when this car would

607
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: be seen again. I will tell you this one is

608
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: not so much never to be seen again. We'll be

609
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: seen again in five years time. Oh, in two thousand

610
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: and eight. We'll resurface. But first we need to catch

611
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: up with Tom Baker here. Yeah is that even his

612
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: real name?

613
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: I doubt it, But can I.

614
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: Ask you a favor? Sure? Okay, all this talk with Ferrari's,

615
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: I feel like we need an Elizabeth impression of my

616
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: man Thomas magnum p I aka Tom Selleck. Oh, Mike,

617
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: you can favor me with a little Tom Selleck as

618
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: magnum p I.

619
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: Yes, just a hint, yeah, let me okay, make it ready,

620
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: lick of the mustache and the Tanna Shultz.

621
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: Right, so good, perfect. I could feel the thigh meat

622
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: and the mustache wrestling in the Hawaiian wind in the mustache. Okay,

623
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: that was so awesome. Now, trying to bring our detective

624
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: into this story, Interdetective Joe Hess of the Lexington, Kentucky

625
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: Metro Police Department. Today. At this point the year of

626
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, detective has He's just working on

627
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 1: normal type cases when he receives this strange calls from

628
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: the National Insurance Crime Bureau. Never heard of its totally,

629
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: I'd never heard of them. I'm like, what is the NICB. Well,

630
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: if you've never heard of the NICB, like me, it's

631
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: not an actual government agency. They just try to sound

632
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: like one. NICB is a nonprofit crime fighting bureau. It

633
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: sounds like you support their crime fighters, you get an

634
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: NICB tope.

635
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: Right exactly.

636
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: So. The agency apparently has one hundred and ten year history.

637
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: It started out as two different nonprofits, National Automobile Theft

638
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: Bureau and the Insurance Crime Prevention Institute. Together in nineteen

639
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: ninety two, they reformed as a National Insurance Crime Bureau.

640
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: Scam totally feels.

641
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: Like, probably get someone who listens works for them and

642
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: it'll be all I am offended.

643
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll see. No, it seems pretty legit anyway. So

644
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Detective Joe Hasse he gets a call from an agent

645
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: from the NICB. The bureau had received a call from Ferrari,

646
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: the Italian car maker. The car maker wanted them to

647
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: look into details of a nineteen eighty five Testa Rosa.

648
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: The owner of the car had contacted Ferrari in Italy

649
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: and asked for identification stickers to be sent to him.

650
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: He claimed needed replacements. Ferrari's like okay, So they checked

651
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: their vehicle identification number. It's then it didn't match the

652
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: serial numbers that Ferrari had on record. That was suspicious

653
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: enough for the car maker to reach out to the

654
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: agents at NICB and they're like, hey, did you mind

655
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: that checking on this for us? So then NICB they

656
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: reach out to Detective Joe Hess. Why Joe has Elizabeth,

657
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: I wish I knew because the man who contacted Ferrari

658
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: was named Tom Baker, and the Italian car maker knew

659
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: where he lived. He told Ferrari that he lived in

660
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: a suburb of Lexington, a place called Nicholasville. So Detective

661
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Joe Hasse of Lexington assembles a task force. He has

662
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: FBI agents, Kentucky State Police officers, and ICB agents. Together,

663
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: they pay an unannounced visit to Tom Baker's house. They

664
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: show up at his door.

665
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: Is he Oh my god?

666
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: The task force drove out to Nicholasville, Kentucky. They pulled

667
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: their caravan of like suburbans or whatever, right up in

668
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: front of a rather run of the mill home. It's

669
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: a standard red bricks Southern home with a detached garage,

670
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, and like the breezeway. Yeah yeah, windows were covered,

671
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: lights off. It doesn't look like anyone's home. The agents

672
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: from the task worth, they're like, huh, what did we

673
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: do about this? They walk up to the door anyway,

674
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: They knock on the front door, surprising no one in

675
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: the task for They received no answer. So what do

676
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: they do, Elizabeth? When they do what cops do? They

677
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: left their business cards like sorry we missed you. We'll

678
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: try it again later. So if you get a business

679
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: card from the FBI, that has to be a tense moment.

680
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would think so.

681
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: Although you know on Law and Order SBU, I've been

682
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: told by people who watch it.

683
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: I watch it. I might have been the one told you.

684
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: It's like Stabler, they have like the business card of death.

685
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: But like if they give you the card, like you're

686
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: not making.

687
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: It through the episode, that's about accurate. So I mean,

688
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: not that I watched the show, No, of course not.

689
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I would never think. You're presumed you watch TV. Now.

690
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: For Old Tom Baker, he handles this prodlor calmly. He

691
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: called the number on the business card. He didn't call

692
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: Detective Joe has Instead, he called a different member of

693
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: the task forse the card for Agent ed Stein, who

694
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: was a supervising special agent for the NICB. So Tom

695
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Baker phone Agent Stein, assuming it was about the Ferrari

696
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: stickers he'd requested, and probably presumably he also wanted to

697
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: hear what the NICB knew about him. Yeah, so Agent

698
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Stein tries to set a trap for Tom Baker. He

699
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: asked Tom if he had the Ferrari testosa in question.

700
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Tom Baker's like, yeah, I got it, and he's like,

701
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, not with me. I have in a storage

702
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: unit in a nearby town. It's about an hour and

703
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: a half away, middle town called London, London, Kentucky. Guy's like,

704
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: oh okay, yeah, so Agent ed Stein, he's not some

705
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: paper pusher from the insurance bureau. I don't want you picture.

706
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: And a guy with like, you know, pencils in his

707
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: like shirt pocket. He was a former cop. He was

708
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: the chief of police of Alexandria, Kentucky for eight and

709
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: a half years. He was a well trained cop. He

710
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: had cop ins. He could sense that tom Baker was

711
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: acting elusive, a void, and so he tries to like

712
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: tell the suspect, you know, oh hey, we like to

713
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: come out to you to confirm the then the vehicle's

714
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: identification number, and we'll issue you a new sticker authorization.

715
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: And he tells tom Baker he'd happily make the hour

716
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and a half trip down to London to see the

717
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Ferrari himself.

718
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

719
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: Tom Beker's like, oh, yeah, yeah, cool, let's do that.

720
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Let me check my calendar and I'll call you back.

721
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: And then he hung up and Agent Stein knew he'd

722
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: never hear from Tom Baker ever again. And he was right, Elizabeth,

723
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: because Tom Baker is once again in the wind. Tom

724
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Baker never returned to his house in Nicholasville. The trail

725
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: went cold as a pimp's heart, just like the Ferrari

726
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: he stole. Tom Baker just up and disappeared.

727
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: So that's his real name is Tom yep turns out

728
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: to his real name.

729
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: And Detective Joe Hess and his multi agency task force,

730
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: they broke up like the Beatles, each going their own

731
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: separate ways, Detective Joe Hess, but he's still that itch,

732
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: that one that special investigators like you get, is like, yeah,

733
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: that feeling you can't shake it, right, and you just

734
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: have the case haunting you well less than a year past,

735
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: and Joe Hess, he got to scratch that crime itch. Yeah,

736
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: this time is the FBI that contacted him. Oh the

737
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: year was two thousand and eight June. And after this break,

738
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about what happens and how this

739
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: Ferrari theft gets his just desserts. All right, Elizabeth.

740
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: Zarin, We're back.

741
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Yes you ready? Yes, buckled up? Yes, okay, butter Cup,

742
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: here we go. Two thousand and eight June, Buffalo Division

743
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: of the FBI get information on a Ferrari Testosa that's

744
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: up for sale in Lexington, Kentucky. I don't know why

745
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Division gets this tip, but they do.

746
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: It got shuffled off to Buffalo exactly boom.

747
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: So they turns out they have this guy Tom Baker,

748
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: apparently not involved at all as far as Buffalo people

749
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: are concerned. They so. At first, Joe has doesn't understand

750
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: why he's being reached out to. But instead it's this

751
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: woman named Carol Pulos and the cars for sale on

752
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: eBay and they list price is forty six thousand dollars,

753
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: so it's gone now gone down nine thousand dollars.

754
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Huh.

755
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: The car was bought and sold, but then the new

756
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: owner had tried to registrate with Ferrari and he discovered

757
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: that the VIN didn't match the car paperwork. The number

758
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: for the recently sold Ferrari was coincidentally just off by

759
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: one digit from the VIN of a Ferrari that had

760
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: been stolen from a Long Island dealership. Oh Man, he

761
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: changed just one number, one number the detective Joe has

762
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: in the FBI. They reteamed like the Eagles for one

763
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: last tour. And they went and they paid a visit

764
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: to the woman Carol Pulos, who sold the Bunko Ferrari.

765
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: Now the question is does she know Tom Baker and

766
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: would she flip? Yeah, So turns out the FBI is

767
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: at her door. What is she gonna do? Not just

768
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: like leaving a card. They're knock knock, knocking. Yeah, when

769
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: the FBI shows up at the front door. Carl Pulus,

770
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: she did the smart thing, Elizabeth. She did not lie

771
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: to the FBI.

772
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: That is the smartest thing anyone can do.

773
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: I recommend it to everybody before. Do not lie to

774
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: the FBI. Just don't just don't say anything. Uh huh,

775
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: give me a lawyer, but do not lie. Lie. They

776
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: will get you, yes, and it's a big crime anyway,

777
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: it's like mail fraud. Just don't do it. In fact,

778
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: this woman Carol Pulos, she did the smartest thing possible

779
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: for her in that moment. She told them everything she knew.

780
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: She told the agent she didn't own the car, she

781
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: was just handling the sales. She sold the car for

782
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: a friend. Well it wasn't actually a friend, it was

783
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: just someone she knew. Was this guy named Tom Baker.

784
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: She was like, right, she said that he owed her

785
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars and this is his way of paying

786
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: her back. She wasn't involved at all and she was

787
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: just trying to get her money. And they're like, okay, lady,

788
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: it's right, calm down here, We're not gonna bust you. Right,

789
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: turned out the stolen Testeros and get seized and pounded.

790
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: But it had already been paid for by Lloyd's of

791
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: London that was the insurer for the car dealership. So

792
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: the car gets returned to Lloyd's of London. Ya, now

793
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: they own it, right. So now Joe Hess Though has

794
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: got a lead. He's back on the trail this elusive

795
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Ferrari thief and he gets to work. He works the

796
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: leads he hads, He phones up all this fellow lawmen.

797
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: He contacts the dedicated detectives with the NYPD. He asked

798
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: them if they would do him a solid, would they

799
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: run out to Long Island and ask the salesman there

800
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: if he could idea a photo of the suspect from

801
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: a lineup.

802
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: Now, I do have a quick question. Sure, do we

803
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: know why Tom owed that woman twenty grand?

804
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: No, we just think he's a con artist type. That's interesting,

805
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: must have been involved in some scampsship. Does not come out.

806
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: I assume there's some criminal components, okay, and she did

807
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: not want to make that clear. So she's like, you know,

808
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: he just owes me. It's like antiques or something, right. Anyway,

809
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: So the NYPD detectives are asked by Joe has to

810
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: go out to Long Island and talk to the salesman

811
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: from the car dealer and go, hey, can you ID

812
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: this guy? See if he's Tom Baker. The dedicated detectives

813
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: of the NYPD were like, bet we got you blue.

814
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: So the cops showed the salesman, the guy named Faisal Sajad,

815
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: the photo lineup and he immediately picked out Tom Baker.

816
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: He's like, that's the guy. We here's this positive ID detected.

817
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Joe has phones Fisle and he asked him point blank

818
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: you sure it's him? Right? He told Faisal, you're positive

819
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: this is the guy. I mean, it's been a few

820
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: years since he stole from you, right, And he's like

821
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: and Fisl was like, and I quote, detective, you never

822
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: forget the man who stole a ferrari from you. So

823
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: now that he had a positive ID and a hot lead.

824
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: Detective Joe has He works the modern equivalent of shoe leather.

825
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: He works the phone lines, the online databasis. He finds

826
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: a hit. There was an er doc from the Lexington

827
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: area who recently purchased a previously owned Ferrari, but not

828
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: just any Ferrari Elizabeth. This er doc bought a Ferrari

829
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: F fifty Oh wondering, he paid three hundred and seventy

830
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars for the hot red number that was

831
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: the one that was like almost seven hundred and thirty

832
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: thousand dollars value, so real, we need to move this

833
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: hot car kind of deal right now. Remind you, this

834
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: is car is just one of three hundred and forty nine.

835
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: So the buyer doctor just beard delon. He contacted Ferrari

836
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: looking to register his car, because apparently if you buyer

837
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: Ferrari's is the first thing you do, you contact Ferri?

838
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: Can I register this thing? And yet again Ferrari had

839
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: to inform the new buyer that unfortunately his paperwork did

840
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: not match theirs, and in fact, the car matched a

841
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: vent Over Ferrari that had been stolen from a Pennsylvania showroom.

842
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: The VR doc contacts the man he bought the car

843
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: from and the seller. This guy tom Baker, promises to

844
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: return his money to him. He didn't know why there'd

845
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: be in any issue with the vin This is just ridiculous,

846
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: but he'll happily make it right. Tom Baker actually did

847
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: send the doctor his money back.

848
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding.

849
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And but the car at this point is evidence.

850
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: So instead of getting the money and the car back,

851
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: the FBI sees is the car and the and the

852
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: money because they're both involved in the crowd. Oh so

853
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: now he if the car is being held for the

854
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: insurance company, which already had paid the ard More Pennsylvania

855
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: dealer showroom, So the insurance company is gonna get the.

856
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: Car, the money's being held a garage by.

857
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: Now exactly, Actually, though this one is a different insurance.

858
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: Firm than everybody's. Lloyd's of Lundon.

859
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: I like your spirits, let's go with that. Now, the

860
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: FBI detective Joe Hess, they're drawing in close to capturing

861
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: their man. It was just a matter of time until

862
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: they catch tom Baker. I mean, if he'd slip up

863
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: at all, they'd be there to catch him. So Joe

864
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: has he has his arrest warrant. At this point, all

865
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: he needs to do is find the guy. Yeah, serve it.

866
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Of course, though he knows he can't be too cocky

867
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: because Tom Baker stayed on the lamb for years. At

868
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: this point, he can always flee the country and Ferraris

869
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: they so well overseas. I mean he goes over to

870
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Japan or Dubai or even like Russia, he could be

871
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: truly gone. So Detective Joe Hess and his multi agency

872
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: task for us, they plan their next move, but they

873
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: catch a break. Before they can make their next move,

874
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: the biggest break a cop could catch. Tom Baker walks

875
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: into the Lexington Police Department and turns himself in. Noah.

876
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: It turns out his most expensive storm Ferrari, the F

877
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: fifty once it had been impounded by the FBI, and

878
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: he'd give him back the money he'd lost his big score.

879
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: He didn't have the money to flee the country. He

880
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: had no way to run, so he tries to cut

881
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: a deal. Yeah, he comes in and he's like, look,

882
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: I got other Ferraris. I'll give them back to you

883
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: if we can talk about a little leniency in court

884
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: for the old Tom Baker. Oh no, so the detective

885
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: Hess and the FBI agreed to this plea deal. They

886
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: go like, all right, fine, man, to show us this

887
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: other Ferrari. On the October two thousand and eight, Joe

888
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Hes meets Tom Baker at a storch and the elusive

889
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: car thief. He reveals to the stubborn law man the

890
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: last of the stolen ferraris the curious thing. Though for

891
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: Detective Joe Hess was less about this car. It really

892
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: wasn't about the car at this point. He wanted to

893
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: know about this car thief and right, so finally he

894
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: gets to meet the man in person, because he wasn't

895
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: there when he walked into the police station. Right, this

896
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: is his moments after a year and a half, he

897
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: gets to meet him. A detective has just finds it

898
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: really odd that Tom Baker's dressed exactly like a pilot

899
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: when he meets him a pilot, it gets no ruse,

900
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: no costume. He didn't go down to like the Halloween

901
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: spirit store and said I need a costume for the road,

902
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: like a sexy pilot cost This is his work uniform.

903
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: He is a legit pilot. It turns out the car

904
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: thief worked for the Economical airline Jet Blue. Tom Baker, dashing,

905
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: daring Ferrari thief was actually a middle aged divorce father

906
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: of two who flew for Jet Blue and his hobby

907
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: was stealing high price ferraris what. Yes, So after he

908
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: was caught, or rather after he cheered himself in, Yeah,

909
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: this is far from the end of his ridiculous crimes.

910
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: Because first the FBI had to get into some ridiculousness

911
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: of their own. Because on May twenty seventh, two thousand

912
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: and nine, a special agent for the FBI and an

913
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: assistant attorney for the Department of Justice, they were tasked

914
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: with the transfer of the stolen Ferrari F fifty, the

915
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: one from there. You had to move it from one

916
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: holding place to another.

917
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

918
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: Rather than get like a truck to hal they decide

919
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: they just drive it themselves. Only they weren't nearly the

920
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: driver that Tom Baker was. Yeah. Oh man, you know what, Elizabeth,

921
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Rather than me tell you about it, close your eyes. Oh,

922
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: I'd ask you to picture it. It's a bright spring

923
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: day in May two thousand and nine, and you, Elizabeth,

924
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: are enjoying the day as a regal moth aka the

925
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: royal walnut moth from the moth family Saturnati. Now, much

926
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: like my man Schwangzoo, you may just be a woman

927
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: dreaming that she's a moth. Or perhaps you've always been

928
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: a moth who's been dreaming she was a woman. So

929
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: true either way, at the moment, you're very recently left

930
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: behind your prior life as a hickory horned devil caterpillar. First,

931
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: you spun yourself a chrysalis inside your coccoon, you dissolved

932
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: all of your body tissues, rendering it down to some

933
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: protoplasmic goop. And then over time you reformed yourself as

934
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: a moth. Then you eventually broke up in your chrysalis,

935
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: you stretched your new wings and took to the sky.

936
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: And now on your day too, as a moth, you flip,

937
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: you float, You gently ride the spring breeze. As you

938
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: glide on currents of breeze and then the soft spring air.

939
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: You hear this sound approach. It's the purr of a

940
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: high performance engine, which means very little to you. You

941
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: flap your wings and try to gain some elevation, but

942
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: you are one unlucky moth. The noise is faster than

943
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: you anticipate, and what feels like I'm mere second and

944
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: a half. You were suddenly whipped down by the speed

945
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: of wind and flat you get stuck to the windshield

946
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: of a speeding Ferrari. Nice you were plastered to the glasses.

947
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: The red sports car races down a quiet Kentucky country road.

948
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: This is not how you imagine life as a moth

949
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: would go. But there you are, Ukraine. Your mothhead around

950
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: is spied through the glass of the windshield. Two men,

951
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: both are wearing big, dumb grins, the kind they come

952
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: from driving or Ferrari really fast. Behind the wheel is

953
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: FBI special agent Frederick Kingston and shotgun assistant US Attorney

954
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Jay Hamilton Thompson. You don't know this, but he's the

955
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: man prosecuting the guy who stole this car, a man

956
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: named Tom Baker. At the moment, pinned to the windshield,

957
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: you try, they get used to the fuel of the wind,

958
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: of speed, and then out of nowhere you hear this

959
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: strange sound. There's a boom sound, followed by a squeal

960
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: of wheels. The Ferrans swerves hard to the right, then

961
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: over crash. It swerves hard to the left.

962
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: Boom again.

963
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: The super rare Ferrari slams into a tree. It's the

964
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: low squat bushes. You flap your wings. The wind of

965
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: speed is gone and has done no damage to you.

966
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: You lift up into the blue of the sky. You

967
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: shake your moth head at the FBI agent who just

968
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: crashed a seven hundred and thirty thousand dollars supercar. The

969
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: doj attorney starts cussing up a storm. You laugh in

970
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: moth as you take one look back and see what's

971
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: left of the car. The driver's side door is split,

972
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: carbon fiber exposed to the air earth. The dog attorney

973
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: is turning all sorts of colors as he continues to

974
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: cuss at the FBI agent who's just shaking his head.

975
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: You turn and feel the sun on your face as

976
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: you fly off to find a quieter country road. Oo

977
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: I just so after that, Yeah, agent, we lot's control

978
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: of the Ferrari and slammed into a tree. While joy

979
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: riding slammed into a tree is destroyed. It that left

980
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice in a hell of a sticky

981
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: situation because the insurance company he'd already paid out on

982
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: the seven hundred and thirty thousand dollars claim, so they

983
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: were now the owner of the stolen Ferrari, and they

984
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: wanted the car they had purchased, so they asked about

985
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: the car, and the DOJ got real quiet, real quick.

986
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Eventually Motors Insurance grew up. They had to file a

987
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: lawsuit against the DOJ. In it, the company claimed that

988
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: their property was destroyed quote while the Ferrari was being

989
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: detained by the FBI. Thus the FBI was responsible to

990
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: make it right. And the dj is on the hook too,

991
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: so the FBI equally Mum, nobody's saying anything. The lawsuit

992
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: catches media attention, that becomes a story, and then the

993
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: story of an FBI agent crashing a stolen super rare

994
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: Ferrari became a regisensation, got a lot of attention. Someone

995
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: had to say something, so eventually Charles Miller, a spokesman

996
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: for the Department of Justice, came forward. He answered questions

997
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: about where the missing Ferrari was. Miller said he didn't

998
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: know where it was. He said, I quote, I know

999
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: it's not in my garage, Are you kidding me? That's

1000
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: where it's left. As for the whereabouts and that mangled

1001
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: f fifty one of only three hundred and forty nine,

1002
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: apparently no one knows where it's being stored. It was

1003
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: finally fully disappeared, lost in the paperwork stolen by the

1004
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: Department of Justice. Yes, the FBI casually stole a sports card.

1005
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: They're like, what what do you look? Don't look at us,

1006
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: that's insane. So as for Tom Baker, what became of

1007
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: the jet Blue pilot with the karthief?

1008
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: Yea, what became of the Jetsube pilot.

1009
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: Was sentenced to a mere eight months in prison, but

1010
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: no doubt the wildest part of his sentencing had to

1011
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: be the terms of his imprisonment. He only had to

1012
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: go to prison two days a week, Elizabeth Wait. The

1013
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: rest of the time, he was allowed to go to

1014
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: the airport so he could quote make his scheduled flight

1015
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: from Lexington, Kentucky to our Lando, Florida for purposes of

1016
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: his employment. He was making the Disneyland run or disney

1017
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: World run rather. So they're like, we got to get

1018
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: those tourists down to disney World. We need Tom Baker.

1019
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: That look on your face, So like, first of all,

1020
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: you're sitting on a plane and it's a felon flying

1021
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: you around.

1022
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you have no idea some jailbird taking you.

1023
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 2: From one place to the next the hell of a pilot.

1024
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: I thought that was just like European thing where they

1025
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: let people check out gently.

1026
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: In Kentucky they led pilots. Yeah, exactly, So dude kept

1027
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: rut on flying. But if you can believe it, Tom

1028
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: Baker story is not quite done because I haven't told

1029
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: you about his boat crimes. Sorry, yacht crimes. It was

1030
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, a Tompick was once again a free man.

1031
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: He'd put his criminal pass behind him. Now he was

1032
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: a luxury yacht owner. He was also a heavy drinker.

1033
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: The two hobbies they kind of go together, like chocolate

1034
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: and peanut butter. But they were also at cross purposes.

1035
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: So one day, or rather one night around two fifteen am,

1036
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: drinking one out and he sank his yacht. In fact,

1037
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: he crashed it, and not just into another boat or

1038
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: a ship, as people prefer he did like I would

1039
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: have done. He crashed it into the sand. He hit land.

1040
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: He crashed his seventy two foot yacht into the shores

1041
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: of Palm Peach, Florida.

1042
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 2: How does he a four to seventy two foot yacht.

1043
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: I know I'm in piloting, I don't know right, So

1044
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: it is liquored up on Long Island Iced Teas and

1045
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: he just drives his boat right into the earth right now.

1046
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

1047
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Long Island Iced Tea, as you know, is a professional

1048
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: alcoholics drinker.

1049
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: Everything in it.

1050
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got like four or five different liquors in it.

1051
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: Like if you're an alcoholic, that's like it'll get you there, right,

1052
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: he'll get your sideways quickly. So drunk Tom Baker, he

1053
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: crashes his seventy two foot yacht into the beach. What

1054
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: does he do next to Elizabeth?

1055
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: From what we know of this guy steals a car.

1056
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: Does he steal a car and drive away? No? Does

1057
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: he steal another boat and try to flee? Also? No,

1058
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: he has a whole other p He pops off the boat,

1059
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: he leaves it there, just careening on the shore, leaking oil,

1060
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: gas whatever else. He decides to fight the case because, surprise, surprise,

1061
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: this would be tom Baker's second boating under the influence

1062
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: charge in less than a month's time.

1063
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: You're kidding me.

1064
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: So, tom Baker argued that it wasn't his fault or

1065
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: the booze's fault to cause the crash into the shore.

1066
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: It was the boat's GPS and more than that, he

1067
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: was adamant about this fact. So he went on the offense.

1068
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: He sued the city of Palm Beach. He sued the

1069
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: police department. He demanded four hundred and fifty thousand dollars

1070
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: in damages. Now, how how could he a party in this? Yeah,

1071
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: the one suing the cops. Well, his legal argument was

1072
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: quote that the cops had a legal obligation to secure

1073
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: and tow his property when he was arrested, but they

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Speaker 1: had failed to do that, so it was there. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the law works in Florida. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone does. But somehow this bizarre legal

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00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: strategy worked and tom Baker had no BUI charges dropped

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00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: and he pleaded down to a reckless operation of him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and this is the secret to his criminal success, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: Tom Baker is powered by a unique criminal imagination. He

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Speaker 1: could pretend to be super rich, but mostly it's just

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Speaker 1: his confidence. Yeah, it's just gonna work out for tom Baker.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's gonna be fine for tom Baker. It

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00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a boat, Long Island, ice Tea,

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00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: or Ferrari. He knew how to make it work for

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00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: him and Joke's side quote. Detective Joe has said he

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00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: had a story, who he was, how he was dressed,

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00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: He looked the part, He knew the right words, he

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Speaker 1: knew the right questions to ask, And that, Elizabeth, is

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00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: how you steal a Ferrari. You ask the right questions,

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00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: you always blame your secretary, and you know, wear a

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00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: tie because those things make your words sound more believable.

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00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, just look at politicians.

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00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 2: Act like you know exactly.

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00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: It's what you always say, act like. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: What's a ridiculous takeaway?

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00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: You know, just act like you know. But also, speaking

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00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: of Ferrari, I saw a trailer for the Ferrari movies.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, with your new favorite Italian accent?

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00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: Why why why do they have Adam Driver?

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00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Why? You know like Adam and his accent, he's a perfect.

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Speaker 2: Did you see House of Gucci?

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Speaker 1: I did not see it at the movie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so bad? Is it good? It's the accent?

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Speaker 1: Actually I did see you maybe watch a clip of

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00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: it on YouTube. You see the clips? Exciting?

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Speaker 2: Terrible?

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00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: I did not meet the ball. This is the hell

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00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: you doing? Italian accent?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they all sound like Mario Brothers and so yeah,

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00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: and father Guidos Serducci. So yeah, my takeaway is like,

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Speaker 2: don't do Enzo Ferrari like that?

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Speaker 1: Apparently it did really got a six minute standing ovation

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Speaker 1: at the Venice Film Festival. And they are Italians, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Means Italians in there. It's all a bunch of foreigners

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00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: coming in there to watch.

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00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: The movie, Germans and French people.

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00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that, you know, if you want to see

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00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: like little glimpses of it, it's good. There's the documentary

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Speaker 2: about the Fiat guy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's dope. Yeah, and their whole like rivalry with

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Speaker 1: you get a bunch in there. Yeah, that has got

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Speaker 1: some ridiculous time.

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Speaker 2: So that is a really ridiculous way to give a takeaway.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Well, thank you for asking what mine is.

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Speaker 1: I don't have one, So there you go.

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Speaker 2: You told the story. You don't need one.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, there, I'm free. You're free, Look, Genie, I'm free.

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Speaker 1: Well as always. You can find us online Ridiculous Crime, Twitter, Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I think they took threads finally away from us. We

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Speaker 1: have a website though, ridiculous crime dot com. You should

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00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: check that out. It wins Design Awards. There's merch you

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00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: can buy. It's also like a dating site apparently. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: You can email us if you want a ridiculous crime

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. As always, remember dear Elizabeth and

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Speaker 1: then start your email. Okay, thanks for listening. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: you next Crime. Because Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton

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Speaker 1: and Zaren Burnett, produce and edited by Dave. Remember Ferrari

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Speaker 1: has the Horse, Lamborghini has the Bull. Houston. Research is

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Speaker 1: by Maria I prefer to steal American cars Brown and

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Speaker 1: Andrea I'd only steal an anime car song, Sharpened Tears.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Thomas Vroom Vroom Lee and Travis.

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Speaker 1: Grandma called me Barney Oldfield Dot. The host wardrobe provided

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Speaker 1: by Botany five hundred. Executive producers are Ben the f

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Speaker 1: n FBI stands for fun, Bolan, and Noel. The B

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Speaker 1: stands for balloons, Brown