Speaker 1: Third and fourteen, poor Man Russia again feels for the
Speaker 1: end zone.
Speaker 2: Four touchdown, wide open touchdown.
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel bass Is called in by More gets free.
Speaker 1: Washington gambles and lose the gamble that time fifty six
Speaker 1: yards touchdown.
Speaker 3: Oh thank goodness. I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: Bears, fans of America and beyond, you needed this one
Speaker 4: and you got it. The Chicago Bears, the monsters of
Speaker 4: the Midway erstwhile monsters of the Midway, and maybe once
Speaker 4: more is.
Speaker 3: Some things.
Speaker 4: Connect finally win a game forty to twenty, doubling up
Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders on the road in Landover. Dan Hans
Speaker 4: is here with Mark Sessler, and this was a game
Speaker 4: that the Bear is absolutely controlled from the start, taking
Speaker 4: a twenty seven to three lead into the half. Washington
Speaker 4: wakes up and they have a chance to pull within
Speaker 4: one score in the fourth quarter. A missed field goal
Speaker 4: followed by that gamble by the Washington dB leads to
Speaker 4: the third Dj Moore touchdown of the night, the fifth
Speaker 4: Justin Field's touchdown pass of the night, and Mark Sessler
Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears get a little scare there, but ultimately
Speaker 4: such a positive night for the organization. And an important
Speaker 4: one bottom line.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean there was a moment where I thought,
Speaker 5: is this are they doubling as the Washington generals of
Speaker 5: the NFL Where it's like you're gonna kind of toy
Speaker 5: with someone, but ultimately you're the clown. Could they possibly
Speaker 5: blow a twenty one point lead two times in less
Speaker 5: than a week, But they got it done and it's
Speaker 5: like they snap a fourteen game losing streak. And this
Speaker 5: is an organization because I think Bears fans have quietly
Speaker 5: been through we talk about the Jets, the Browns, other organizations,
Speaker 5: like they've been through a lot. Like they haven't had
Speaker 5: a fourteen game losing streak since the Chicago Bears were
Speaker 5: the Chicago Cardinals that lost fourteen games back when you
Speaker 5: didn't play a thousand games in a season from nineteen
Speaker 5: forty two to nineteen forty five. So it's been a
Speaker 5: long time. These guys have been through a drought. And
Speaker 5: if you look at the last if you look at
Speaker 5: what they I know they lost the Broncos skip, Like
Speaker 5: if you look at that game and what Justin Fields
Speaker 5: did in that game, and you pair it with tonight,
Speaker 5: and you pair it with some other aspects and you
Speaker 5: look at DJ Moore, who like the box score for
Speaker 5: the ages eight catches, two hundred and thirty yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 5: It's a confusing state for bear stands because there is
Speaker 5: hope here. And like you kind of saw, like Luke
Speaker 5: Getzi's offense, which dazzled down the stretch last year, start
Speaker 5: to take hold tonight. They absolutely dominated in certain plays.
Speaker 5: Big plays were starting to be produced. I just don't
Speaker 5: know if I can believe it. Like even like the
Speaker 5: defense which had two sacks coming into this game, a
Speaker 5: pass rush, which you know, Greg and I got into
Speaker 5: an argument about on one of our shows. It's like
Speaker 5: are they real or not? Like they blew up tonight.
Speaker 5: Everything kind of came together that I feel like that's
Speaker 5: how Thursday night football is. But I thought this would
Speaker 5: be Washington's Thursday night football coronation. I really believe in
Speaker 5: Sam Halle. But it went in a totally different direction.
Speaker 5: And Chicago came in and completely disrupted that coronation and
Speaker 5: created a disruptive poem that went in the wrong way
Speaker 5: for Washington.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's not get it twisted. And Commander's fans
Speaker 4: that are listening right now, and good job by you.
Speaker 4: You have our eternal respect. They've been through it too.
Speaker 4: I mean they've been through a really, really rough century
Speaker 4: so far that you finally feel like there's some hope
Speaker 4: with Daniel Snyder's ass out the door. And you got
Speaker 4: the Josh Harris bad beat for Harris when they come
Speaker 4: back from commercial when it's twenty seven to three or
Speaker 4: whatever and he's yucking it up and showing people his phone.
Speaker 4: That's things you'll learn as the owner. You have to
Speaker 4: be very stern in your etiquette and know that the
Speaker 4: camera can find you anytime. And it felt like that
Speaker 4: was gonna be like kind of what this night was
Speaker 4: gonna be, just an ugly, grim night for the Commanders,
Speaker 4: when like you said, it felt like this was going
Speaker 4: to be a celebration of a new error for Washington football,
Speaker 4: and that could still happen. This is still a team
Speaker 4: that has talent, that has ability. The young quarterback does
Speaker 4: do things every time you watch them that gets you excited,
Speaker 4: and maybe Sam Howe will continue to develop. But this
Speaker 4: was not the Commander's night. And you could say about
Speaker 4: this Bears performance, well, don't get too excited. I mean
Speaker 4: there's still just one in four. There's still a lot
Speaker 4: of things wrong with this team that they came very
Speaker 4: close to letting this one get away in the way
Speaker 4: that they let last week's get away. But I think
Speaker 4: it's so in terms of morale and this idea that
Speaker 4: there is something building here. You will absolutely be over
Speaker 4: the moon when when you know that, I said Mark,
Speaker 4: one of the worst feelings as a sports fan or
Speaker 4: just in life is when something really bad happens and
Speaker 4: then you know when you wake up the next morning,
Speaker 4: it's the first thing that you'll remember, Oh wait, that
Speaker 4: bad thing happened.
Speaker 3: That's happened a lot.
Speaker 4: For Chicago fans, they get to wake up in the
Speaker 4: morning and go revisit the box scorer where Justin Field's
Speaker 4: average almost ten yards in attempt he threw four touchdown passes.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, it was five, right, correct? Four? It was four.
Speaker 4: Touchdown passes according to the spots my bet. And you'll
Speaker 4: look at DJ Moore, the guy that was brought here.
Speaker 4: That was his job was to be a true number
Speaker 4: one for this kid court that you believed in that
Speaker 4: you traded the number one overall pick away for it
Speaker 4: because you thought, if we just give him a surrounding
Speaker 4: cast and we give him a true number one. He
Speaker 4: will blossom and after a very poor start to the season,
Speaker 4: you've seen that these last two weeks, Fields all of
Speaker 4: a sudden does not look helpus.
Speaker 3: In fact, he looks quite.
Speaker 4: Dangerous with DJ Moore, who has, yes, like you said,
Speaker 4: one of the great performances in the history of Thursday
Speaker 4: night football, which has been on for about ten years now.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we don't know what the rest of the
Speaker 4: season holds, and maybe this is a blip in the radar,
Speaker 4: but it's also possible mark that the Bears, after a
Speaker 4: horrendous start to the season, are finding their footing on
Speaker 4: offense now. And while they're probably not going to the
Speaker 4: playoffs and they're probably not going to the super Bowl,
Speaker 4: that does not mean that this is not a season
Speaker 4: where they can continue to grow. And it's just that
Speaker 4: it's a night that creates optimism in Chicago, and the
Speaker 4: thought of that even being possible a week or so ago,
Speaker 4: it was, you know, it felt impossible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think like we live in a world
Speaker 5: football wise with no patience. It's like, oh, you're rebuild,
Speaker 5: You've got five weeks to rebuild the program. It's like
Speaker 5: this team was a disaster, a year ago, and part
Speaker 5: of it is coaching. But if you're Matt Eberflus and
Speaker 5: you're not onlike those Bears fans, you wake up tomorrow
Speaker 5: morning and you can look at where you were at halftime,
Speaker 5: because I think it's like these games get a little
Speaker 5: bit out of hand. But like at halftime, the Bears
Speaker 5: had three hundred and seven yards of offense and his defense,
Speaker 5: Matt Eberflus's defense against a solid weapons not I wouldn't
Speaker 5: say weapons rich, but weapons equipped Commander's offense. They had
Speaker 5: eighty four yards twenty minutes of nineteen minutes of possession
Speaker 5: for the Bears, one hundred and twenty two yards of
Speaker 5: rushing thirteen for the Commanders. I don't know what happened
Speaker 5: to their ground game to night. It vanished. They dominated
Speaker 5: in every possible way, And part of me a little bit,
Speaker 5: it's like everyone is killing Eberflus left and right, and
Speaker 5: for good reason. Okay, but it's Ron Rivera a little
Speaker 5: bit to me that stands out in these game situations
Speaker 5: because this is the guy that, uh, I think everyone is.
Speaker 5: We respect Ron Rivera. He's a nice person. He's gonna
Speaker 5: give you a nice, solid season year of to year.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna go too high, You're not gonna go
Speaker 5: too low. But it's like there was one decision tonight
Speaker 5: that stood out for me that's separated a difference making
Speaker 5: opportunity for the commanders. They're down twenty seven to eleven
Speaker 5: late in the third quarter, fourth and two from Chicago's thirteen,
Speaker 5: and he kicks a field goal. I mean, like this
Speaker 5: was riverboat ron The riverboat at this point has been
Speaker 5: shot down by alien nuclear satellites. Like what are we
Speaker 5: doing here? Like why, like why are we not taking
Speaker 5: our young team and saying we believe in us, We're
Speaker 5: going to go for it. I get there's a lot
Speaker 5: of time left, but I just I don't know it
Speaker 5: just it seems to me like a bit of a
Speaker 5: departure from the norm where it's like what makes this
Speaker 5: coaching staff special? And like you're kind of leaving the
Speaker 5: entire year like that, you're you may not get that
Speaker 5: close again. And it's like that fourth and two from
Speaker 5: the got it you have to go for it.
Speaker 4: I see why you would. And I'm wondering what the
Speaker 4: analytics said the old Gopher or kick where they came
Speaker 4: down on that in terms of win probability. I was
Speaker 4: okay with it only because it just seemed the way
Speaker 4: these types of games go, you could feel that you
Speaker 4: could sense it, like with respect to Claybond, the momentum
Speaker 4: had clearly shifted and they had a chance to continue
Speaker 4: to put points on the board. It was still early
Speaker 4: in the second half, and to that point, Joey Sly
Speaker 4: lines up for a forty six yard field goal, which
Speaker 4: in today's game is a kick. You expect your kicker
Speaker 4: to pipe and he makes that kick, and it's a
Speaker 4: seven point game with five minutes to play, and he
Speaker 4: doesn't make the kick. And so I think the way
Speaker 4: he played it taking the points then was looking at
Speaker 4: the long game and feeling like they had really they
Speaker 4: were starting to really gather momentum in this game.
Speaker 3: So I didn't have a big issue with it.
Speaker 4: But I see what you're saying, like, this is the
Speaker 4: guy that in Carolina had the nickname, which is one
Speaker 4: of the great all time coach nicknames of Riverboat Ron,
Speaker 4: and you expect him to roll the dice there and
Speaker 4: he didn't. And yeah, and if you're a Commander's fan
Speaker 4: and you agree with Mark's take, I get it. In general,
Speaker 4: this was a deeply frustrating night because, like we said,
Speaker 4: this felt like it was supposed to be a celebration
Speaker 4: for the organization and instead, you totally know show you
Speaker 4: give up a touchdown on a vicious coverage bus to
Speaker 4: start the game, and you go down, You go to
Speaker 4: the locker room down twenty seven to three, and it's
Speaker 4: just like, what what are we doing here? So there's
Speaker 4: a lot of frustration on the Washington side. I think
Speaker 4: the second half mark was very it felt predictable, and
Speaker 4: it was my concern because I really was rooting hard
Speaker 4: for Chicago.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess happless teams they stick together, and these are
Speaker 4: kind of two happless teams in the last twenty years
Speaker 4: or so. But when they started to get a little
Speaker 4: more conservative and they were having these like ninety second
Speaker 4: drives and then they were letting Sam Haug up and
Speaker 4: down the I really had an ominous feeling that this
Speaker 4: was going to be a second collapse.
Speaker 3: There was a play that I was.
Speaker 4: Certain would be the one you would remember from this
Speaker 4: game where the Commanders had scored maybe even had scored
Speaker 4: ten points to cut into the lead, and on a
Speaker 4: third and about five Fields rolled to his left. Feeling pressure,
Speaker 4: he goes. He sees Khalil Herbert, who's all by himself
Speaker 4: on the sideline. If he can get the ball to Herbert,
Speaker 4: he's walking into the end zone forty yards for a touchdown. Instead,
Speaker 4: Fields in the with a hand in his face out
Speaker 4: of fairness, shorts the ball. It skips to Herbert, who
Speaker 4: wrenches his knee and is out for the game pretty
Speaker 4: much from that point with an injury. And then they punt,
Speaker 4: which leads to I believe, another score for Washington. It
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, this is happening. So credit
Speaker 4: Chicago for not letting this thing get away, and credit
Speaker 4: to Matt Eberfluse and the offense for getting aggressive mark
Speaker 4: on that last touchdown to Dj Moore after the slid miss.
Speaker 4: They could have done the thing that so many coaches
Speaker 4: do when they're scared and trying to just run out
Speaker 4: the clock and run the ball three times and then
Speaker 4: punt again. But he called to pass from Fields to More,
Speaker 4: which had worked beautifully all night, and one more time.
Speaker 4: Dj Moore was the better player. He took it to
Speaker 4: the house and away we go. At celebration time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like this was the coaching scenario, coaching effort
Speaker 5: that you would want from Eberflus and the Bears coaches
Speaker 5: like it. It looked like a team that is rebuilding,
Speaker 5: that's taking steps. I could point to a play too.
Speaker 5: They're down twenty seven to eleven. The Commanders logan Thomas
Speaker 5: he basically the bar like the ball jar loose from
Speaker 5: by Terrell Smith at the Bears forty six. Like in
Speaker 5: that that to me, like that, like the Bears defense
Speaker 5: made a big play. There was also hidden among all
Speaker 5: the other Dj Moore big catches, a thirty two yard
Speaker 5: grab that basically set up a field goal that made
Speaker 5: it two thirty to fourteen. Like these little moments where
Speaker 5: the Bears could have collapsed. And like, I mean, we
Speaker 5: were texting during this, and I was like, you know
Speaker 5: what this is like NF Every NFL game, it's gonna
Speaker 5: go I know, it's gonna go to overtime. We're gonna
Speaker 5: deal with the Bears and Commanders in like a fifth period.
Speaker 5: And instead, like the Bears found their way out of
Speaker 5: these little moments over and over and we haven't seen
Speaker 5: them do that. They just haven't done that, And like
Speaker 5: it was a bit of a different coaching scenario, bit
Speaker 5: of coaching effort, and so like I appreciate that from
Speaker 5: that side of it. If you're a Bears fan, like
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're rooting for this coaching staff
Speaker 5: to survive or not. Like I mean, we haven't seen
Speaker 5: a lot, and so this is a little ray of hope,
Speaker 5: a little open window. I don't know what like a
Speaker 5: game like this, Like I struggle to make toop to
Speaker 5: put too much meaning on a Thursday night game between
Speaker 5: the Commanders and Bears and say, we're in a new
Speaker 5: direction here. I think that's what that's what happens with TNF.
Speaker 5: But it's like, we'll see, we'll see. It's a strange.
Speaker 5: It's a strange setup for me, Chicago, Like you needed this,
Speaker 5: you got it. We'll see, we'll see what the carryover is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope it's not coming off that way all
Speaker 4: of a sudden. The Bears are fine and Justin Fields
Speaker 4: will so potential.
Speaker 3: But that's two.
Speaker 4: Straight games now to where they started the season. This
Speaker 4: he actually it's interesting. He did run the ball effectively,
Speaker 4: but he was again it's not like when Fields was
Speaker 4: hot as a pistol in the middle of last season.
Speaker 4: Last November or so, where he was just carving teams
Speaker 4: up for one hundred and twenty yards on the ground
Speaker 4: and just running rough shot over defenses. Like these last
Speaker 4: two games, he's looked a lot sharper as a passers,
Speaker 4: which that's.
Speaker 3: What will make him a star.
Speaker 4: And if you can continue to build off these last
Speaker 4: two weeks, you have a lot to be excited about.
Speaker 4: And you look at their upcoming schedule. The Vikings defense
Speaker 4: up next, that's not overly daunting. You have the Raiders
Speaker 4: after that, and then they're in Los Angeles so against
Speaker 4: the Chargers after that. So there's a chance here. Maybe
Speaker 4: the Bears aren't gonna win all or any of these games,
Speaker 4: but I feel like the runway is now set up
Speaker 4: for Fields to really kind of find himself and start
Speaker 4: building in what's such a pivotal year for him development.
Speaker 3: So good stuff.
Speaker 4: There's there's a couple of things, Mark, a couple other
Speaker 4: things here. Did you have any other thoughts on the
Speaker 4: other side of the ball before we move on about watching?
Speaker 5: Well, the one thing I'd say is like, because I
Speaker 5: when I say that the game doesn't ultimately have like
Speaker 5: universal meaning, you know it maybe it will, but like
Speaker 5: I think that, Like I came out of it being
Speaker 5: like my biggest note was my fifth week of watching
Speaker 5: Sam Howell and the you know, five weeks now, maybe
Speaker 5: it changes, but like there's something about him. He's not
Speaker 5: a massive physical specimen. He's not perfect. He's not teaching
Speaker 5: us how to throw the ball compared to all of
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks, but like there's something about him that I
Speaker 5: believe in and like I I kind of just want
Speaker 5: him to be in a situation that's stable, that allows
Speaker 5: him to grow, and like he's got some weapons around him,
Speaker 5: but it's like he's fascinating to watch and like I
Speaker 5: know they lost and he's getting killed behind it is
Speaker 5: like that he walks into sacks like he's making some mistakes.
Speaker 5: But there's something about him that I dig. And it's
Speaker 5: not just I know he seems a little Baker mayfieldish,
Speaker 5: but it's like I don't know what his future is.
Speaker 5: But like I came out of this again being like
Speaker 5: there's something about Sam how that I just dig, Like
Speaker 5: it makes me want to watch the Commanders.
Speaker 3: You know, I like him too.
Speaker 4: There's only he had the one wipeout game, what was
Speaker 4: it against Buffalo, But otherwise has been really fun to watch.
Speaker 4: And again, like he's more athletic than Baker, Like he's
Speaker 4: more athletic than Ryan Fitzpatrick. Some other guys that might
Speaker 4: kind of come to mind in terms of his bill,
Speaker 4: the way he some of those scrambles, fran Tarkan din
Speaker 4: or something, the way he dodges, bounces off tackles. He
Speaker 4: had one scramble in the red zone where it was
Speaker 4: a third and forever or second and forever.
Speaker 3: I think it was a third in forever.
Speaker 4: And he he bounces off numerous guys. He toe taps
Speaker 4: along the sideline then cuts back in, which is not
Speaker 4: necessarily what you want from your quarterback, but that's just
Speaker 4: his character and he's he's a guy that kept slinging.
Speaker 4: He's he's kind of exactly the quarterback you never want
Speaker 4: to be down twenty. But he's the type of quarterback
Speaker 4: that can throw you back into the game like a Baker,
Speaker 4: like a Fitzpatrick if he starts feeling it and the
Speaker 4: other defense starts to let up a little bit. So
Speaker 4: that's part of the reason this game became a game
Speaker 4: in the second half. So I'm with you totally on that,
Speaker 4: and it's fun to watch now A couple of things
Speaker 4: from FedEx Field. You know, we have Young and Sweaty,
Speaker 4: the combination of Montes sweat and Chase Young. Today they
Speaker 4: combined in a losing effort. Let's let's not get over
Speaker 4: the moon about Washington's defense. Today they combined for two
Speaker 4: sacks and five QB hits. In general, they're starting to
Speaker 4: fulfill that promise together and it helps that they have
Speaker 4: Deron Payne and Jonathan Allen there as well. The movement,
Speaker 4: the Young and Sweaty nickname movement gains some significant steam.
Speaker 4: And if you're watching this on YouTube, you could see
Speaker 4: the tweet that Big Funk is putting up. Right now,
Speaker 4: we have Melissa Buckley, thank you. The tradition lives on,
Speaker 4: and she's got a young headband. It's it's a head
Speaker 4: white head band that says young across it, and then
Speaker 4: a buddy doing the plus sign, and then her her friend.
Speaker 4: I assume her friend could be her enemy. Maybe that's
Speaker 4: what in between with a headband that says sweaty. So
Speaker 4: I think it's real. And now it's just a matter
Speaker 4: of us continue Washington fans to send us Young and
Speaker 4: Sweaty support for the great nickname of that.
Speaker 5: This is Dan. This is you know, we part of
Speaker 5: our job is to come up with monikers, nicknames and
Speaker 5: move and attempt to start movements, and some of them
Speaker 5: go dry, some of them take off, and like I
Speaker 5: think this is a big step here. What I love
Speaker 5: the most about it is when they get separated and
Speaker 5: you've got the girl on the right walking around the stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 5: she's got to go do what she's gonna do, and
Speaker 5: she's got to we're in a headband. Just that says Sweaty,
Speaker 5: which it's not a bad thing, it's just like it
Speaker 5: raises some questions. I'm not sure what she's attempting to
Speaker 5: tell people. But when you get them together, you get it.
Speaker 4: So quite frankly, it's the better it's the better trade off.
Speaker 4: But another one just walking around the concourse with a
Speaker 4: headband that says young on. It is also kind of
Speaker 4: a weird thing if you want to think it is
Speaker 4: that it's a.
Speaker 5: Bit of a brag. I guess I don't know. It's
Speaker 5: like it depends who like she Both of them fit.
Speaker 5: Both of them are doing fine in the role, Like
Speaker 5: a different pair of representatives would struggle potentially, like Sweaty
Speaker 5: would work with a lot of people that I know,
Speaker 5: like Young not so much.
Speaker 4: Another news item around the Bears on this otherwise joyous
Speaker 4: evening in Chicago, Bears general manager he ended any thought
Speaker 4: that Chase Claypool will ever play another snap for the Bears,
Speaker 4: the wide receiver who they acquired for a thirty second
Speaker 4: overall pick last year, just last year. He was on
Speaker 4: ESPN one thousand, their pregame radio show today and this
Speaker 4: was his quote, Mark, I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 4: I think Chase, which is Claypool, is going to learn
Speaker 4: from this situation. We all will. He's like, I won't
Speaker 4: trade basically a first round pick for a malcontent wide receiver.
Speaker 4: We all will, and I wish him luck moving forward
Speaker 4: throughout his career he go.
Speaker 5: He go, I mean, it's like it's an interesting This
Speaker 5: was sort of the flush out tocsins week for the
Speaker 5: NFL because we just saw like J. C. Jackson, who
Speaker 5: completely failed with the Chargers, go back to New England.
Speaker 5: He's going back home. It's like Chase Claypool not gonna
Speaker 5: go back to Pittsburgh, I'd imagine. But like, you know,
Speaker 5: the one thing I'd say, like some of these gms,
Speaker 5: it's like I guess if you wanted to be real,
Speaker 5: Like we talked about mission accomplished and way to go
Speaker 5: Brownie during our show today, It's like, if you really
Speaker 5: want to taking yeah, you just but you could just
Speaker 5: stick with these guys that you failed with, like we're
Speaker 5: gonna keep you because we just refuse to acknowledge. We
Speaker 5: feel it's like we're gonna flush these guys out. We
Speaker 5: get it, like we're moving on. I like that at least, like,
Speaker 5: let's I don't want to hear four more weeks of
Speaker 5: Chase Claypool drama in Chicago. I don' don't to hear
Speaker 5: about that anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it.
Speaker 4: Helps Ryan Poles's trade leverage, but I don't imagine he
Speaker 4: had much to start with. And he in that same conversation,
Speaker 4: he also talked about the reasoning behind the Doom trade.
Speaker 4: He said they wanted to add another receiver to the
Speaker 4: offense not only to help us be more productive, but
Speaker 4: also to help Justin take the next step.
Speaker 3: So that was the thought process.
Speaker 4: Then, and I think again, trying to on a positive
Speaker 4: night for the Bears, they now have that guy, the
Speaker 4: guy that they wanted Chase Claypool to be, and they
Speaker 4: miscast him from the very beginning is DJ Moore and
Speaker 4: they in that trade where they sent the number one
Speaker 4: overall pick to Charlotte getting more in their building. What
Speaker 4: you've seen in these last two weeks that that could
Speaker 4: change the entire trajectory of fields his career. So Ryan
Speaker 4: Poles still has a job after one of the worst
Speaker 4: trades of the decade, and maybe DJ Moore will help
Speaker 4: save it going forward.
Speaker 3: Finally, Mark, this.
Speaker 4: Is a bittersweet day for the Bears because the on
Speaker 4: the same day that they wiped out the Commanders on
Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football, we learned that Dick buckis one of
Speaker 4: the most famous of all Chicago Bears, passed away at
Speaker 4: the age of eighty. Hall of Famer, a nine year
Speaker 4: career started in nineteen sixty five, known as like a
Speaker 4: Giant amongst his peers, a middle linebacker who was well
Speaker 4: known and feared by contemporaries as a guy that was
Speaker 4: vicious in terms of how hard he would hit you.
Speaker 4: He said in interviews after his career, like he wanted
Speaker 4: to be the type of player that when you get
Speaker 4: hit by him, they don't even have to get up
Speaker 4: and say who hit him? They say this by feeling it.
Speaker 4: You knew it was a Dick Buckets hit, And in
Speaker 4: a lot of ways, he's emblematic of what the NFL
Speaker 4: was in the mid twentieth century and kind of a
Speaker 4: legendary figure and icon of that era of the sport.
Speaker 4: So to lose him today is very sad. But the
Speaker 4: man lived an incredible life at that span, not just football,
Speaker 4: but also as a very well known celebrity pitch man
Speaker 4: and also actor. He showed up in movies and TV shows.
Speaker 4: Just kind of an American giant in terms of what
Speaker 4: he did in his life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like sort of the first multi platform
Speaker 5: star in a way. I mean we were relatively the
Speaker 5: same age where we grew up, where you know, Dick
Speaker 5: Bucket finished his career. He played from sixty five to
Speaker 5: seventy three with the Bears. I was born in seventy three,
Speaker 5: so it's like we didn't watch him in person, but
Speaker 5: there was no way you became a football fan in
Speaker 5: the eighties early nineties without not having Dick Buckets like
Speaker 5: lead off, kind of like the highlight reel that would
Speaker 5: lead you into pregame shows. It's like he was still
Speaker 5: a massive figure in terms of like the way that
Speaker 5: someone today would think of frankly like Peyton Manning, like
Speaker 5: it's like he's removed, but not that far removed, and
Speaker 5: it's like still the star that you look back on,
Speaker 5: or if you're a basketball fan of Michael Jordan, where
Speaker 5: it's like everyone knows this person and you know the
Speaker 5: Bears are the weird team out there. That's like somehow
Speaker 5: have spent six decades fashioning their image off of inside
Speaker 5: and linebackers in general. It's like there's no other team
Speaker 5: doing that, but they they are, And like I think
Speaker 5: it started with him. And I mean I grew up
Speaker 5: watching and buying like VHS tapes about like the NFL's
Speaker 5: most devastating hits from nineteen eighty six. It's like they
Speaker 5: don't they don't produce that anymore. But like, but guests
Speaker 5: in general would always be like on these like historical
Speaker 5: biggest hits, devastating and I knock you out with a
Speaker 5: forearm kind of guy. But then, like you and I
Speaker 5: watched TV shows that he suddenly became I wouldn't say cuddly,
Speaker 5: but he kind of play his tough self but be
Speaker 5: have a cuddly side of his On mc guiver, I
Speaker 5: think I saw about two hundred episodes of My Two Dads.
Speaker 5: He was featured on that like largely. It's like I
Speaker 5: knew him in two different ways, and it's like, Dads, No,
Speaker 5: it was definitely not no, no, no, he would not
Speaker 5: have played that role. But I will say this is
Speaker 5: a really weird side note, but the daughter on My
Speaker 5: Two Dads, Stacy Keenan. I was in a screenwriting class, okay,
Speaker 5: and there was a competition in our little class to
Speaker 5: have your screenplay red, and mine got to the end,
Speaker 5: and like they brought in some our guy that like
Speaker 5: taught the class, started different strokes that show, and so
Speaker 5: like he knew all these actors and actresses and brought
Speaker 5: in Stacy Keenan to lead like the fit in the
Speaker 5: main female role. And I'm like sitting there as like
Speaker 5: a twenty something year old like freaking out because it's
Speaker 5: the girl from My Two Dads. But that is like
Speaker 5: the Mike Kevin Bacon one step removed from Dick puckis
Speaker 5: like she's spent a ton of time on set with
Speaker 5: Dick Buckets and it's like he spanned all these different
Speaker 5: roles and stuff. But really his imprint on the NFL,
Speaker 5: I would say he's like a top five, top ten
Speaker 5: person that moved the NFL from stage A to B
Speaker 5: two C and gave it a national presence. And then
Speaker 5: as an actor, I think always you hark back to
Speaker 5: who he was just an incredible figure and an incredible
Speaker 5: Chicago Bears. It's like the Bears really haven't changed that
Speaker 5: much to me, and who they are, who their fans are,
Speaker 5: what they love, what they fall for, who they fall for,
Speaker 5: and he's still at that center, at that epicenter. And
Speaker 5: it's like, man, it's you lose you. We're at the
Speaker 5: point where we're losing these NFL people left and right,
Speaker 5: and people a lot younger than Dick Buckets. But like
Speaker 5: this is a legend gone into the mist.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything you're saying about, you know, the linebacker like that,
Speaker 4: he's the Midwest. He is that sensibility and that's part
Speaker 4: of the reason he was so beloved. And he was
Speaker 4: a son of Illinois. Like he was born in Chicago.
Speaker 4: I played high school ball in Chicago, went to school
Speaker 4: the University of Illinois, became a star there, then played
Speaker 4: his entire career with the Chicago Chicago Bears. So I
Speaker 4: mean he he is Chicago. In fact, we have a
Speaker 4: good clip here that Big Funk dug up from a
Speaker 4: press conference where he was honored, I believe at his
Speaker 4: college where he's an alumnus of Illinois, and he was
Speaker 4: talked a little bit about, you know, the game and
Speaker 4: why he loved it.
Speaker 3: It's very a humbling deal, and.
Speaker 6: You know, and you wonder, you know why, Man? You know,
Speaker 6: I did what I thought I was supposed to do,
Speaker 6: and I you know, I had fun knocking this out
Speaker 6: of people. You know, so if it was that unusual,
Speaker 6: I guess you take it.
Speaker 4: You know, I had fun knocking the out of people.
Speaker 4: He was one of one rest in peace, Dick Buckets.
Speaker 4: You're right, though, Mark, like we lost Jim Brown, We
Speaker 4: lose Buckets. And it feels like all these kind of
Speaker 4: heroes of the twentieth century, you know, you you know
Speaker 4: the passage of time, undefeated, Mark, undefeated, as you yourself
Speaker 4: coming up upon your fiftieth birthday, time stalls for.
Speaker 5: No one, not, you know, not something. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 5: not one of these.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: I don't know who's doing this. I don't want to
Speaker 5: tag like target or tags certain genres of types. But
Speaker 5: they want to celebrate their birthday for two months in
Speaker 5: a row and go to like forty eight dinners with
Speaker 5: seventy two friend groups, like I will allow it to
Speaker 5: come and go. I can't believe that will be my age.
Speaker 5: I don't see myself that way. But you know what,
Speaker 5: no one does. And then suddenly time tells you good
Speaker 5: luck with your own wishes. You don't know what you're doing, so.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 5: Like also that statement, where are we going?
Speaker 4: My favorite all time article ever or at least headline
Speaker 4: from the Onion, another Chicago based legendary product, and how
Speaker 4: do you pronounce this inexorable? Inexorable? Yeah, inexorable. March of
Speaker 4: Time brings TV's Jerry Mathers one step closer to death.
Speaker 4: And the whole article is just about Jerry Mathers. He
Speaker 4: was leaving to beaver, He's just getting older.
Speaker 3: That is an article.
Speaker 5: It's sad, it's it's accurate, it's logical.
Speaker 4: Okay, good stuff, anything else Mark before we say goodbye?
Speaker 5: No, but I want to go track down this mcguiver
Speaker 5: episode or episodes that Dick Buckets was on, Like you know,
Speaker 5: that was a complex show. There were a lot of
Speaker 5: like problems being solved. I don't know what role we played.
Speaker 5: I would say, probably a villain. I want to go
Speaker 5: find out.
Speaker 4: Right, and I yeah, we are separated by a few years.
Speaker 4: So while I remember my two dads the show, I
Speaker 4: remember Stacy Keenan from was step by Step, which the
Speaker 4: Patrick Duffy Suzanne Summers vehicle. And I'll tell you what,
Speaker 4: but a ten year old Zuzzer found Stacy to be
Speaker 4: someone that I would have wanted to marry at that
Speaker 4: time of my life, like, that's what I want my
Speaker 4: wife to look like. So the fact that you shared
Speaker 4: a some type of classroom or hall in the corridors
Speaker 4: off USC's campus is I'm pretty jealous, I must say.
Speaker 5: I well, so wait, I will add no more than
Speaker 5: ten seconds context of this, but like so my professor
Speaker 5: created step by Step and that's how we knew her,
Speaker 5: and so.
Speaker 4: That's how he kind of said, hey, come, like take
Speaker 4: time out of your day to do this and not
Speaker 4: get paid for its states.
Speaker 3: Remember again read.
Speaker 5: This, come read this like non Ruffians, like totally failed
Speaker 5: script and like she read the main female part. But
Speaker 5: like the whole time, I don't know what my role
Speaker 5: was in that class other than then at that point
Speaker 5: we had already written the thing. I was just sitting
Speaker 5: there like listening to it, and I'm like, what is
Speaker 5: the girl from my two dads doing here? I was
Speaker 5: my sensibilities were very aligned with yours, and I was
Speaker 5: like internally freaking out. Like I've been in LA for
Speaker 5: like six months, and I was like, this is the
Speaker 5: craziest thing that's ever happened to me. And like, I
Speaker 5: think at some point I attempted to speak to her.
Speaker 5: It probably went very poorly, and then everyone vanished. It's like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, you got one shot and I did.
Speaker 5: I totally whiffed on that shot, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Listen, we all if you shot your shot, that's the
Speaker 4: most important thing, because then you can't live with regret.
Speaker 5: Let that shot it into I shot it into the bleachers.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, It's like, I think the basketball
Speaker 5: hit a woman in the head who was like trying
Speaker 5: to like drink a glass of milk.
Speaker 3: But you shot it. That woman's in a coma at
Speaker 3: the Ronald Reagan Medical Center. But you shot the ball.
Speaker 3: And that's what's most important. Kids.
Speaker 4: Don't forget that. Leave it all on the court, all right.
Speaker 4: By the way, Dick played Earl dent On mcgiver and
Speaker 4: like a funk coming through again. Check it out on YouTube.
Speaker 4: There he is, you know, a real man, a Midwestern man,
Speaker 4: has broad shoulders and a nice mustache and a masculine face.
Speaker 3: That was Buckus he was. He kind of checked all
Speaker 3: the boxes.
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised at all that he was able to
Speaker 4: transition into a successful career in Hollywood. All right, that's it,
Speaker 4: good stuff, good conversation. Congratulations to you Bears fans out there,
Speaker 4: Rest in peace, thick buckets, keep the young and sweaty
Speaker 4: movement alive, Commander's fans, even.
Speaker 3: In this dark knight. The next time, keep a cop