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Speaker 4: Connect finally win a game forty to twenty, doubling up

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean there was a moment where I thought,

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Speaker 5: Everything kind of came together that I feel like that's

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Speaker 3: That's happened a lot.

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Speaker 4: And he he bounces off numerous guys. He toe taps

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Speaker 4: save it going forward.

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00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: Finally, Mark, this.

436
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 4: Is a bittersweet day for the Bears because the on

437
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: the same day that they wiped out the Commanders on

438
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football, we learned that Dick buckis one of

439
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 4: the most famous of all Chicago Bears, passed away at

440
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 4: the age of eighty. Hall of Famer, a nine year

441
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 4: career started in nineteen sixty five, known as like a

442
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 4: Giant amongst his peers, a middle linebacker who was well

443
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 4: known and feared by contemporaries as a guy that was

444
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: vicious in terms of how hard he would hit you.

445
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: He said in interviews after his career, like he wanted

446
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: to be the type of player that when you get

447
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 4: hit by him, they don't even have to get up

448
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: and say who hit him? They say this by feeling it.

449
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: You knew it was a Dick Buckets hit, And in

450
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: a lot of ways, he's emblematic of what the NFL

451
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: was in the mid twentieth century and kind of a

452
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 4: legendary figure and icon of that era of the sport.

453
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 4: So to lose him today is very sad. But the

454
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 4: man lived an incredible life at that span, not just football,

455
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: but also as a very well known celebrity pitch man

456
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 4: and also actor. He showed up in movies and TV shows.

457
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: Just kind of an American giant in terms of what

458
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: he did in his life.

459
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like sort of the first multi platform

460
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 5: star in a way. I mean we were relatively the

461
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 5: same age where we grew up, where you know, Dick

462
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 5: Bucket finished his career. He played from sixty five to

463
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 5: seventy three with the Bears. I was born in seventy three,

464
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 5: so it's like we didn't watch him in person, but

465
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 5: there was no way you became a football fan in

466
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: the eighties early nineties without not having Dick Buckets like

467
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 5: lead off, kind of like the highlight reel that would

468
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 5: lead you into pregame shows. It's like he was still

469
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 5: a massive figure in terms of like the way that

470
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 5: someone today would think of frankly like Peyton Manning, like

471
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: it's like he's removed, but not that far removed, and

472
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 5: it's like still the star that you look back on,

473
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 5: or if you're a basketball fan of Michael Jordan, where

474
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 5: it's like everyone knows this person and you know the

475
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: Bears are the weird team out there. That's like somehow

476
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 5: have spent six decades fashioning their image off of inside

477
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 5: and linebackers in general. It's like there's no other team

478
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 5: doing that, but they they are, And like I think

479
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 5: it started with him. And I mean I grew up

480
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 5: watching and buying like VHS tapes about like the NFL's

481
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 5: most devastating hits from nineteen eighty six. It's like they

482
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 5: don't they don't produce that anymore. But like, but guests

483
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 5: in general would always be like on these like historical

484
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 5: biggest hits, devastating and I knock you out with a

485
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 5: forearm kind of guy. But then, like you and I

486
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 5: watched TV shows that he suddenly became I wouldn't say cuddly,

487
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: but he kind of play his tough self but be

488
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 5: have a cuddly side of his On mc guiver, I

489
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 5: think I saw about two hundred episodes of My Two Dads.

490
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: He was featured on that like largely. It's like I

491
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 5: knew him in two different ways, and it's like, Dads, No,

492
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 5: it was definitely not no, no, no, he would not

493
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 5: have played that role. But I will say this is

494
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 5: a really weird side note, but the daughter on My

495
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 5: Two Dads, Stacy Keenan. I was in a screenwriting class, okay,

496
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 5: and there was a competition in our little class to

497
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: have your screenplay red, and mine got to the end,

498
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 5: and like they brought in some our guy that like

499
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 5: taught the class, started different strokes that show, and so

500
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 5: like he knew all these actors and actresses and brought

501
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 5: in Stacy Keenan to lead like the fit in the

502
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 5: main female role. And I'm like sitting there as like

503
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 5: a twenty something year old like freaking out because it's

504
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 5: the girl from My Two Dads. But that is like

505
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 5: the Mike Kevin Bacon one step removed from Dick puckis

506
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 5: like she's spent a ton of time on set with

507
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 5: Dick Buckets and it's like he spanned all these different

508
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 5: roles and stuff. But really his imprint on the NFL,

509
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 5: I would say he's like a top five, top ten

510
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 5: person that moved the NFL from stage A to B

511
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 5: two C and gave it a national presence. And then

512
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 5: as an actor, I think always you hark back to

513
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 5: who he was just an incredible figure and an incredible

514
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 5: Chicago Bears. It's like the Bears really haven't changed that

515
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: much to me, and who they are, who their fans are,

516
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 5: what they love, what they fall for, who they fall for,

517
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 5: and he's still at that center, at that epicenter. And

518
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 5: it's like, man, it's you lose you. We're at the

519
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: point where we're losing these NFL people left and right,

520
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 5: and people a lot younger than Dick Buckets. But like

521
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: this is a legend gone into the mist.

522
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything you're saying about, you know, the linebacker like that,

524
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: he's the Midwest. He is that sensibility and that's part

525
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: of the reason he was so beloved. And he was

526
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 4: a son of Illinois. Like he was born in Chicago.

527
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 4: I played high school ball in Chicago, went to school

528
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 4: the University of Illinois, became a star there, then played

529
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 4: his entire career with the Chicago Chicago Bears. So I

530
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: mean he he is Chicago. In fact, we have a

531
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 4: good clip here that Big Funk dug up from a

532
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 4: press conference where he was honored, I believe at his

533
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 4: college where he's an alumnus of Illinois, and he was

534
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: talked a little bit about, you know, the game and

535
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 4: why he loved it.

536
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: It's very a humbling deal, and.

537
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 6: You know, and you wonder, you know why, Man? You know,

538
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 6: I did what I thought I was supposed to do,

539
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 6: and I you know, I had fun knocking this out

540
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 6: of people. You know, so if it was that unusual,

541
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 6: I guess you take it.

542
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 4: You know, I had fun knocking the out of people.

543
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: He was one of one rest in peace, Dick Buckets.

544
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: You're right, though, Mark, like we lost Jim Brown, We

545
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 4: lose Buckets. And it feels like all these kind of

546
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: heroes of the twentieth century, you know, you you know

547
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: the passage of time, undefeated, Mark, undefeated, as you yourself

548
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: coming up upon your fiftieth birthday, time stalls for.

549
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: No one, not, you know, not something. I'm like, I'm

550
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 5: not one of these.

551
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

552
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 5: I don't know who's doing this. I don't want to

553
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: tag like target or tags certain genres of types. But

554
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 5: they want to celebrate their birthday for two months in

555
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 5: a row and go to like forty eight dinners with

556
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: seventy two friend groups, like I will allow it to

557
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 5: come and go. I can't believe that will be my age.

558
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 5: I don't see myself that way. But you know what,

559
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 5: no one does. And then suddenly time tells you good

560
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 5: luck with your own wishes. You don't know what you're doing, so.

561
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what.

562
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 5: Like also that statement, where are we going?

563
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: My favorite all time article ever or at least headline

564
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: from the Onion, another Chicago based legendary product, and how

565
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: do you pronounce this inexorable? Inexorable? Yeah, inexorable. March of

566
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: Time brings TV's Jerry Mathers one step closer to death.

567
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: And the whole article is just about Jerry Mathers. He

568
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: was leaving to beaver, He's just getting older.

569
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: That is an article.

570
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: It's sad, it's it's accurate, it's logical.

571
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: Okay, good stuff, anything else Mark before we say goodbye?

572
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 5: No, but I want to go track down this mcguiver

573
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 5: episode or episodes that Dick Buckets was on, Like you know,

574
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 5: that was a complex show. There were a lot of

575
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 5: like problems being solved. I don't know what role we played.

576
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: I would say, probably a villain. I want to go

577
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 5: find out.

578
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: Right, and I yeah, we are separated by a few years.

579
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: So while I remember my two dads the show, I

580
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: remember Stacy Keenan from was step by Step, which the

581
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: Patrick Duffy Suzanne Summers vehicle. And I'll tell you what,

582
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: but a ten year old Zuzzer found Stacy to be

583
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: someone that I would have wanted to marry at that

584
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: time of my life, like, that's what I want my

585
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: wife to look like. So the fact that you shared

586
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: a some type of classroom or hall in the corridors

587
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: off USC's campus is I'm pretty jealous, I must say.

588
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: I well, so wait, I will add no more than

589
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 5: ten seconds context of this, but like so my professor

590
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: created step by Step and that's how we knew her,

591
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 5: and so.

592
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: That's how he kind of said, hey, come, like take

593
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: time out of your day to do this and not

594
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: get paid for its states.

595
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: Remember again read.

596
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: This, come read this like non Ruffians, like totally failed

597
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 5: script and like she read the main female part. But

598
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: like the whole time, I don't know what my role

599
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: was in that class other than then at that point

600
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: we had already written the thing. I was just sitting

601
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 5: there like listening to it, and I'm like, what is

602
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: the girl from my two dads doing here? I was

603
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 5: my sensibilities were very aligned with yours, and I was

604
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: like internally freaking out. Like I've been in LA for

605
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 5: like six months, and I was like, this is the

606
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 5: craziest thing that's ever happened to me. And like, I

607
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: think at some point I attempted to speak to her.

608
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: It probably went very poorly, and then everyone vanished. It's like,

609
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, you got one shot and I did.

610
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: I totally whiffed on that shot, that's for sure.

611
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: Listen, we all if you shot your shot, that's the

612
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: most important thing, because then you can't live with regret.

613
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: Let that shot it into I shot it into the bleachers.

614
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: I think, you know, It's like, I think the basketball

615
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: hit a woman in the head who was like trying

616
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: to like drink a glass of milk.

617
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: But you shot it. That woman's in a coma at

618
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: the Ronald Reagan Medical Center. But you shot the ball.

619
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: And that's what's most important. Kids.

620
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: Don't forget that. Leave it all on the court, all right.

621
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: By the way, Dick played Earl dent On mcgiver and

622
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: like a funk coming through again. Check it out on YouTube.

623
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: There he is, you know, a real man, a Midwestern man,

624
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: has broad shoulders and a nice mustache and a masculine face.

625
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: That was Buckus he was. He kind of checked all

626
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: the boxes.

627
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised at all that he was able to

628
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: transition into a successful career in Hollywood. All right, that's it,

629
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: good stuff, good conversation. Congratulations to you Bears fans out there,

630
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: Rest in peace, thick buckets, keep the young and sweaty

631
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 4: movement alive, Commander's fans, even.

632
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: In this dark knight. The next time, keep a cop