1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: But I remember before that game, it was like right 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: before the trade deadline when we played the Factors, and 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: I remember going out for warm ups is just like 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: trying to go with everybody like please come get me, please, 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: let's go. Somebody I was going to like, I would 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: have to, like Mark Burphy like please, like Google everybody, 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Uh like we can't. They couldn't do anything about that. 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: What's up. I'm Randall Cob for a Green Bay Packtor. Hello, 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: esteemed listeners. Yes, I'm talking to most of you. I'm 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: glad you're here with me for another episode of Off 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: the Beat Sports. I am your host, Brian baum Gartner, 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: and today I have a dear friend and an incredible 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: player from well my favorite football team. Randall Cobb of 14 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, is in studio today. He is 15 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: now a professional wide receiver in the National Football League. 16 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: But he was not a sports prodigy or even a 17 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: high school superstar, no, ma'am. Shockingly, he was a bench 18 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: warmer for a lot longer than you might think. We're 19 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna get into that some of his favorite plays of 20 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: all time and some of mine, and we'll even bring 21 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: up the dark Ages, by which, of course I mean 22 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: when he moved to Houston for a period of time. 23 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't like to think about it, but it's important 24 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: to learn the mistakes of history so we don't repeat them, 25 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: you know. So here he is my pal, Randall Cobb, 26 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: bub I love it, Bubble squeak on Bubble and squeaker 27 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: cook at every month left over from the Natyo well 28 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: sing boom Terrerol Randolph, What is happening my man? How 29 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm good. I wore the shirt, the 30 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: green and gold golf shirt today. I'm so excited to 31 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: talk to you. How have you been? And I'm great. 32 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: I'm great. I'm actually up here in Green day eight 33 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: right now, that's all. So you're there? Now? How long 34 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: have you been in June? You you get, you get 35 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a little more time and then you come back right yeah, yeah, 36 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: so we uh, I've been up here for about five 37 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: weeks now. We got mini camp next week and then 38 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: another week of Oats Gays and then we'll have a 39 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: break before its training camp stars to late Tovive. Nice. 40 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: Are you excited? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Man. One of 41 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: the years, well believe at the time goes by fast. 42 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I actually found a picture of us from at a 43 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: bar in Green Day Saturday. Yes, I think you were 44 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: hurt though, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was out. 45 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: I was that you were not playing the next day. 46 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: I was not playing the next day. Let's let's make 47 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: sure yes that is and that's accurate. We're not fudging. 48 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: I remember that night very very well. I'm so happy 49 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: for you. I'm I want to go back a little 50 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: bit before we talk about the Packers. I want to 51 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: talk about your early start in sports back in Tennessee. 52 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: So you were born in Maryville and then grew up 53 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: in it's al Coha, right, alcohol, the Aluminium Company of America. Okay, Okay, 54 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Now I read you were a letterman in football, basketball, 55 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: and track, So that means you were an athlete. Just 56 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: spoiler alert that that's what that means for you. Was 57 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: it just about being in sport or did you have 58 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: a particular interest early on growing up? Uh? Not really. 59 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 1: You know, I started playing sports when I was four, 60 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: and from age five until my senior in high school, 61 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: I played year round. It was like football season ended 62 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: played in the basketball, basketball season ended straight into baseball, 63 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: Baseball season ended straight into football. And it was just 64 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: this cycle that just every year. It just never ended, 65 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: and then like I got to the point where I 66 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: gave up baseball and then I started running tracks, which 67 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: track took place of baseball, and that was just me. 68 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I just I love being outside. I love anything competitive, 69 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: like I just I love competing and having fun and 70 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, living life. Yeah, when did it transition from 71 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: this is what I do. I love sports, I love competing, 72 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: to this is what I want to do in my life. 73 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember was there a moment? I would say 74 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: that moment for me was probably like my eighth grade year. 75 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: I remember being in middle school and hearing about a 76 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: guy that went to Arrival School Maryville, where where I 77 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: was born, I was born in He was going to 78 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Auburn to play football in college. And I was like, 79 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: oh man, that's cool, Like he used to go to 80 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: college and he's get to playing in SEC. Like I 81 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: grew up ten minute school University of Tennessee. I used 82 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: to sell hot dogs at the stadium as a kid, 83 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, Like I used to go on Saturdays and 84 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: grab my hot dog fill, walk around the stadium, walk 85 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: up those stairs in Newland Stadium selling hot dogs. And 86 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: my my dream was always like to play college football. 87 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Like that was just like, oh man, this is amazing. 88 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: But I think whenever I heard like, oh, this guy's 89 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: going to Auburn, that's an SEC school, like I would 90 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: go to school there. So in my mind, I was like, 91 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm transferring to Maryville. I'm going to Marrable High School. 92 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: They had won a bunch of state championships. Alpha had 93 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: had some success here and there, but you know, my 94 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: my cousin and my brother, they wanted to state championship 95 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: in two thousands and you know, so it's like O 96 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: two oh three and I'm like, okay, well I want 97 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: to do this. So I'm gonna go where I know 98 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: a guy has done this. And the high school coach 99 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: at the time he came to me, it was like, hey, like, 100 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: I think you got a great opportunity here. If you 101 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: stay here, I think we can make something happen. And 102 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: uh so I stayed it out for we had a 103 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: great high school team. We ended up my four years 104 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: of high school, we won four state championship and we 105 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: had my sophomore year like two guys from between that 106 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: division one. So it became a reality when I started 107 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: like seeing it happen right around me, and I was like, wow, 108 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: like this is this is a real thing like that 109 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: could really like go to college. Yeah, now I want 110 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you a little bit about this. This 111 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: guy Gary Ankin, right, this is this is your high 112 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: school coach. These statistics seem absolutely impossible. I mean, he 113 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: won he won thirteen state championships in sixteen years at 114 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Alcoha High School. But it wasn't just what was in 115 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: the water in al CoA, because this dude won four 116 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: at Riverdale High School prior to that. And then this 117 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: is not There's got to be something going on here. 118 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, does he just does he just transferred to 119 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: the school, because then I heard he announced his retirement 120 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: right this year, and then three weeks later announced he 121 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: was going back to Boyd, Buchanan and Chattanooga. It sounds 122 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: like he's moving where he knows the athletes are. That's 123 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't know this for a fact. 124 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't know this for a fact. I'm not gonna 125 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: say that, but I think he is very elective than 126 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, the jobs that he takes and the places 127 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: that he goes. He walked into a situation when he 128 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: came to alcohol. So he wasn't my coach, My pfession 129 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: and sophomore year we had a coach, John who who 130 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: ended up going to Georgia and taking a job in Georgia. 131 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: So we had one two state championships already and he 132 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: comes into the program, you know, back to back state championships. 133 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Going to my junior year, we had two receivers that 134 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: had five plus offers. We had myself at quarterback, who 135 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't being highly recruited. Everybody didn't think I was 136 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback, so I wasn't quite there yet. But we 137 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: had we had some players. We had a defensive ent 138 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: that was committed to Tennessee, had thirty plus offers. You know, 139 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: we had, we had some talent. So yeah, he I 140 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: think he knew very selective then where he's coming into. 141 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: But I mean when you go when you go back 142 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: to my hometown and you asked people around there, there's 143 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of talents, a lot of hidden gens coming 144 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: out of there, and we put a lot of a 145 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: lot of guys in college and you know, some have 146 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: panned out. I'm the only one that's the NFL, but 147 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: hopefully in the years. Yeah, okay, so you you start 148 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: thinking about eighth grade, maybe I could do this, maybe 149 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: I could play college ball. Was there a person or 150 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: people that you feel like helped you to get there? 151 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: For sure, there was a lot of people. I think 152 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: most importantly was my my dad. He was always there 153 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: to give me confidence and to instill the love of 154 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: the game for me. You know, he had coached me 155 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: from when I was a kid up until middle school, 156 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: and having him kind of helped me see things from 157 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: a different lens. I had a cousin, James Rayner. We 158 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: call the Stink I think. Uh. He ran track in college. 159 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: He was like a ten oh six hundred guys, so 160 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: he had speed and he had won Stage campionship in 161 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: two thousand. He was a big influence in my time there. 162 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: And then my coaches. You know, I had some I 163 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: had some great coaches that helped push me along and 164 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: gave me those opportunities. But yeah, my pops, I mean 165 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: I used to my junior year when it's my junior here, 166 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: I went on all kind of trips, so to these 167 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: summer camps at different colleges, and I had coaches telling 168 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: me that I've never played you one. I had you know, 169 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: people telling me that I should move the corner or 170 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: safety like this. Like that. I wanted to I wanted 171 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: to play offense, so you know, I always saw myself 172 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: touching the ball. So yeah, so I think I had 173 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people and also my teammates in high school. 174 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, they were some crazy athletic guys, and you 175 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: go back to my hometown and asked them, I probably 176 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the one that they would think to be 177 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: in this position now, because that's how good the guys 178 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: in front of me were, right, So like they they 179 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: had situations with grades, not being able to get into college, 180 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: so being able to learn from other people's mistakes and 181 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: also having a support system around me. Yeah, I understand 182 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: your folks. You give them a tremendous amount of credit 183 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: really for financially supporting your dream and to get you know, 184 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: allowing you the opportunity to participate in sports. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, 185 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: that was huge. I think that's the difference. Yeah. So, 186 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: but you continue through high school to play the other sports? Now, 187 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: was that to keep you active or were you still 188 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: thinking were you good enough in track or in basketball 189 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: to to make a run there or no, no, I 190 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough in football at that time. You gotta 191 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: understand like I wasn't I wasn't seeing the field. My 192 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: freshman and sophomore year, I didn't play until we were 193 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: up by forty, and I would come in for you know, 194 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the last offense, a series of the game or defensive 195 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: series whatever. Playing my freshman soft you know, I don't 196 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: think you understand how guilty were. But my junior year, 197 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: whenever I came into the starting role, that's kind of 198 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: where I started to flourish and really show what I 199 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: could do as a quarterback. And I played a little 200 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: bit of defense. But no, I mean it was I 201 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: was a high school kid. It wasn't like the pros 202 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: were like a real thing, you know what I mean. 203 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: It was like playing high school ball. Like my senior 204 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: year might be the last year I have a play sports. 205 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: So in my mind, it was like, I'm just going 206 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: to have fun. I love playing basketball, continue playing basketball, 207 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: ran track. I played. I just didn't put my senior 208 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: year high school, I didn't play basketball. And that's because 209 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: I had already committed to Kentucky and I was planning 210 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: on training and preparing myself. So whenever summer school started, 211 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: I could go right up and started summer school at 212 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: the end of school year. So talk to me a 213 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: little bit about the decision to go to Kentucky. Is 214 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: that where you felt they wanted you the most or 215 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: what was that opportunity for sure? So that was I 216 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: got offered by Middle Tennessee State University and then I 217 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: got offered by Tucky when the same week. Those were 218 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: my only two offer before my senior year. I committed 219 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: to Kentucky. Fast forward to December, like two weeks before 220 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: State Tennessee office, and I grew up there like you know, 221 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: of course, I can't say that. I never dreamed of 222 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: playing there. Like like I said, I sold hot dogs, 223 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: you know. I I thought that, like that's what was 224 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: going to happen. But again that's when that's when my 225 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: dad played a role. I went over to UT. I 226 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: went to Philip Former's office. He handed me to national 227 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: championship crystal ball and I'm holding it and he's telling 228 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: me how great of a quarterback I am. They're gonna 229 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: change their office for me. Is I'm gonna be the 230 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: the greatest player that ever come to University of Tennessee. 231 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: And we leave there and we get back in the 232 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: car and my dad's like, so, what do you think 233 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you team? What do you mean? 234 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: Like I'm getting ready to what kind of question is that? 235 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he goes on He's like, well 236 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: if you're if you're this great of a player, then 237 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: you know he has the pastor of house every single 238 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: night on his way home. I was like, yeah, okay, 239 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: It's like, well, why didn't you ever stop by? You're 240 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: just great of a player and he has all these 241 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: recruits that he goes and business them, and why wouldn't 242 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: he come to you a little sooner if it's great? 243 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I was like, okay, 244 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: I'll see what you're saying, like and that that allowed me. 245 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: That was that was the first time that I was like, 246 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to listen to what people say. You 247 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: have to see their actions and understand that their actions 248 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: beep louder than their words. Right. So that's why I 249 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: credit so much to my dad because he was there 250 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: to help guide me and kind of showed me what 251 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: was happening. And when when it came to Kentucky, I 252 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: just had so much faith in the coach of staff. 253 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: They have been so honest with me, so forth right, 254 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a chance at quarterback for most like, 255 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna read moved to receiver? You know, so 256 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: I just had a respect for a coaching staff and 257 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: made that decision. That's awesome. Well, I on a personal note, 258 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: as a fan of the University of Georgia, I'm really 259 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: glad you didn't join Philip Falmer Tennessee got those guys 260 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: just always annoyed the hell out of me. I'll be 261 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: honest with you. You do move to receiver your sophomore 262 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: year at Tennessee. Was that tough for you after having 263 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: your hands on the ball on every play? Uh, to 264 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: begin a transition to being a receiver? And and did 265 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: you did you agree with or support that decision? Or 266 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: was that tough for you? It was tough in the beginning. 267 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I think that's where ego plays a role, right, It's like, no, like, 268 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: this is what I set out to do, this is 269 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: who I am, this is who I know I am, 270 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: I know what I can do, this, I'm going to 271 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: do it. And then you know, again, that's where you 272 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: have people in your life that play a role and 273 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: help me see the bigger picture. And I had a coach, 274 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: my quarterback coach, Randy Sanders. You know, he said to 275 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: me one day, he was like, hey, I want you 276 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: to go look up how many quarterbacks have been drafted 277 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: that's under six feet? You know. So I went and 278 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: looked it up, and remember the name. It was like 279 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: Doug Flooty and a few other guys. I was like, 280 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: footy Breeze probably maybe Breeze says he's six ft. I 281 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: don't know, right, I don't know, but yeah, so I go, 282 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: I go and look that up and then I come 283 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: back to him and I tell him what I found, 284 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: and he says, now, I want you to go look 285 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: up receivers has been drafted on the six foot. I 286 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: go and do that and come back and it's like 287 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: over a hundred guys. And he's like, you could go 288 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: to the NFL, have a team plus your career if 289 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: you make this move. If you do it now, you'll 290 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: be able to learn get crassed for the of what 291 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: you're trying to accomplish. You know, what the what the 292 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: position really means. And I just took that from there 293 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: and it was like, ask you what you're saying. And 294 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL was always a goal, and uh, 295 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: I think you helped guide me into into making that 296 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: decision a little bit easier. And that was your quarterback coach. 297 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: That's my quarterback coach, Kentucky. Yeah, Randy Sanders, And I 298 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: think that it also was like we had to fourth 299 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: star quarterbacks still there. Like I mean, you threw like 300 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: five you throw five touchdowns as a quarterback, had a 301 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: few inter steps. It's just like so, but we we 302 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: still ran like the wildcat offense and uh you know 303 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: ran the ball at too. So yeah, do you do 304 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: you like that? I mean there's still some plays in 305 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: there for you, even even now where you play where 306 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: you're the wildcat. I did past it was yeah, you know, uh, 307 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: no one you know, run the front of between tackles, 308 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the kick off. It turns a little different now what 309 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: it was, you know when I first came to leave. Yeah, 310 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: you're old. You're not like me. You're aged. I just 311 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: get younger every year. That's the difference. It's crazy in 312 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm but my body says different. Yeah, well 313 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: that's a crazy thing. I mean, you reference at night 314 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: and I probably met you right then, right pretty shortly 315 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: after you got drafted. That doesn't seem like that long 316 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: ago to me, even now, nine ten years ago. No, 317 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: that was just it was a couple of years ago. 318 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: Well COVID, maybe it's four years You know, that's crazy. Yes, 319 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: your junior year against the undefeated Auburn Universe City team, 320 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: you score four touchdowns. Is that the game where the 321 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: light switch happens? No, you know, honestly I felt it 322 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: my freshman year playing Georgia. Actually I was Stafford A. J. 323 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: Green No Shan Marino. You know, we were we were 324 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: going we were going back and forth with them, and 325 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: they ended up going up on us late in the 326 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I go into quarterback drive down 327 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: the field. Well, what would be putting us in position 328 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: the tide of games? And I had a great game, 329 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: I think I think I had a couple of touchdowns 330 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: that game, but I, you know, fourth quarter, two minute drive, 331 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: take us all the way down the field. We get 332 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: into the red zone and run a screen and I 333 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: can't see over the d live and try to throw 334 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: a screen to the running back and throw a pick 335 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: to the D line. Uh. After that game, I was like, yeah, 336 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: I was distraught because I you know, I lost the 337 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: game after an interception the end the game to throw 338 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: us out of possession of winning in my mind after 339 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: that game. So I was like, and I just went 340 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: toe to toe with guys that I know are league, Like, 341 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm playing against NFL caliber players and like I held 342 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: my own. So in my mind, I was like, man, 343 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: this could really be a reality. But any time, you know, 344 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: and I think that was like my motivation was, you know, 345 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: after playing in a game like that against SEC talent, 346 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: you see that talent that you're going to play against 347 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: and know that they're going to league, and it gives 348 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: you confidence. Yeah, and it's it's crazy, he's kind of 349 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: thinking about you, you know, primarily being a quarterback there 350 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: in the beginning. It's really two years. I think that's 351 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: why I was asking about your junior year. You start 352 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: getting a ton of attention and decide to leave college 353 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: early to go to the NFL. All talk to me 354 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: a little bit about that decision. Did you ever consider 355 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: giving it one more go or once you knew you 356 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: had the opportunity, was it was it go time? I did? 357 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: I did? I love kids like I love my time there. 358 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: It went by so fast. I thought about going back, 359 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: but in the end, it was like I gotta make 360 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: a business decision, right, Like I'm twenty years old and 361 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: I just touched the ball in a season probably average 362 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: twenty five touches a game. I was able to stay 363 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: healthy and I'm playing in the SEC where so I 364 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: feel like it's one of the more violent leaves. It's 365 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: really tough on the body. And I was like, man, 366 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna get this opportunity again. 367 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: And you know what, what more could I do as 368 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: a team. We were losing a lot of players. We 369 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: didn't know who's gonna have moving forward. I had the 370 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: best season that I could have possibly had. I broke 371 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: the SEC record for all perfect yards. I have like 372 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: twenty three hundred yards. That season was like, I really 373 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: don't know what personally I can put myself in a 374 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: player position. And that was kind of the advice that 375 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: I had got from some of the people whenever I 376 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: started talking to agents, and I was kind of it 377 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: for me. It was like, Okay, well, I gotta make 378 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: this decision and make that joke. Right, do you make 379 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: the decision? You declare for the draft, and there's a 380 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: little team in a little town called Green Bay that 381 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl, right, and you you get drafted 382 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: in the second round by the Packers coming off their 383 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you know they're gonna be good talk 384 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: to me about that day and finding out that that's 385 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: the team that that that drafted you, ah man, it was. 386 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: It was a crazy experience because I went to New 387 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: York with the draft. I was there. I was there 388 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: for the draft. My agent thought it was a chance 389 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: I could go in the first round. And honestly, it 390 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: was a free trip in New York that my family 391 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: had never been in New York. So I was like 392 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: gold through George, my mom and mom and dad and 393 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: Stepplings and we all went to New York for the draft. 394 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: It was an experience for us as a family. You know, 395 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: they get to get to see the Big Apple, which 396 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: that was everything. It was. It was unbelievable experience. But 397 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: then like when the draft rose around, you know, as 398 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: now it's into the second round, and I thought I 399 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: was going to Baltimore. That was like five picks before 400 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: green Bay, And then I thought I was going to Pittsburgh. 401 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was heavy on me right before the draft when 402 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I was going to business, so I thought I would 403 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh tick before. And then when green Bay called, 404 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: I was just like and shocked because I was like, man, 405 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: like this they just want the super Bowl, like you said, like, 406 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to the defending Super Bowl camps, and I 407 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: knew that they were gonna have another great team. I 408 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: was just trying to figure out, Okay, like now what 409 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: is my role? Like we have some really good receivers 410 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: of just like a guy who like what am I 411 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: supposed to do it? Right? So, but whenever, whenever I 412 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: got that call, I was it's no feeling like it 413 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: in the world. Like everything that you've ever worked for 414 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: in the dreams that bad as a kid are actually 415 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: becoming a reality. It's really happy, and you're going to 416 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: one of the most history teams in all the sports. 417 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: There's nothing like had you been? Yeah, you hadn't been 418 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: to Green Bay? Right? No, No, I've never been. Had 419 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: you been even to that area? No? Never I thought 420 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay was like you know, I thought it was 421 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: like a New York or a Chicago. It was like 422 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: a million people there. The first time that I actually 423 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: found out was when I was landing in Green Bay. Right. 424 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: So I get drafted and then it's the lockout, so 425 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: like I don't get to there's no off season. We 426 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: go straight into training. So I get a call like 427 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, like, hey, you gotta be here on Thursday. 428 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: So like I get there, like we're landing, and like 429 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: my first thought was like, how must have got on 430 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: the wrong plane, Like, I'm not a farce. There's no 431 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: way that there's a team. Uh you know, lad get 432 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: off the plane and the rest is history. Yeah, how 433 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: special is that place? The town of cream Bay. No 434 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: place like it, No place like it, live free, eat 435 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: football there. They love their teams, they love supporting their team. 436 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's uh charity basketball game, a 437 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: charity softball game, you know, it doesn't matter. They're supporting. 438 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna be. There's pack always. You know, if you 439 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: have a charity event, they're they're coming, they're donating, you know. 440 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: And not only just city of Green Bay, but the 441 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: Packer fans in general. Like whenever I travel around the country, 442 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: always it doesn't matter what country I'm in, it'll be 443 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: a Packer fan will come up to the like, I mean, Spain, 444 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: how do you even like, how do you even know? 445 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's nothing like, Yeah, you 446 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: have had so many amazing iconic moments for the franchise, 447 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: what's your favorite? I got I got to what she was. 448 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: I want to hear yours. One. I was there. I'm 449 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: sure we talk. I'm sure I hugged you and an 450 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: inappropriately a snug embrace. That one was the Hail Mary 451 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: against the Giants, uh in the in the playoffs, Hail 452 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: Mary at the end of the first half. That really, 453 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, you just sort of felt 454 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: it in the stadium that just kind of took the 455 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: air out of them and ended up having a fairly 456 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: decent win there, that catch, and it was one of 457 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: those I mean, I'm sure you're better at it than 458 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I am, but I've watched a lot of football, and 459 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: when you're live sometimes you see it happening, you know, 460 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: when you you you see all of the pieces of 461 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: the chessboard happening at one second, and I knew knew 462 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: where he was going. I saw it all. Whether there 463 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: was just i mean just the slightest of push offs, 464 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't care. It was so it 465 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: was that was so great that but by far for 466 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: me the game I remember so well, which was probably 467 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: quite frankly, probably a couple of weeks after the night 468 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: that you referenced you'd been injured, you broke your your leg, 469 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: and Aaron was out with you're out. We're at a 470 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: bar before a game in Green Bay because I had 471 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: planned to go and that game. Actually, I think I 472 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: have pictures of you and Aaron and me on the 473 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: sideline before the game for the only time because neither 474 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: of you were playing. And the last game of the season, 475 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: the Packers against the Bears, the winner goes to the 476 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: playoff and he hits you with about a fifty yard 477 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: forty eights what it says here, but about a fifty 478 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: yard just beautiful past run catch right up the seam 479 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: to win that game. That one, Yeah, that one, I'll 480 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll ever forget that one because 481 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: it was just so it was just so sweet, man. 482 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: That was That was a special one. That's that's one. 483 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: That's one B. That one, Okay, that's one B. And 484 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: the only reason is be is because one A my 485 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: first game coming out of the the lockout, first game back 486 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: football Saints, first Packers is the last two champions, Packers 487 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: one of the year four year before that, and it's 488 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: my first game in the NFL ever and ever catch 489 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown and then I had kick off return that 490 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: tied the record at the time, and like it was 491 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: just so surreal, right, like everything that had happened up 492 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: until that point. I thought I was getting cut in 493 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: training because like I got like a thy contusion because 494 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: just a few days of practice, and I was like, 495 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm get really get cut and then I make the 496 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: team and then that happens, right, So it was just like, yeah, 497 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: it was just like this coming out party from me 498 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: and this like moment that it was like you can 499 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: really do this, like not like you just made it 500 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: to the NFL, like you can you can be a 501 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: difference maker, you know what I mean. So that for me, 502 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: that was like a personal moment that was just like 503 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: solidified that I was right where I was supposed to be. Uh. 504 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: So that that's why it's one eight for me and 505 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: then one be Like you said the game in Chicago, 506 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I was coming off of a broken leg that missed 507 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: ten weeks that season and before I get hurt, Before 508 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: I get hurt that season, like I was on page 509 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: for most fourteen hundred yards until I touchdowns. That's what 510 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: I was on paste for before I've heard uh. And 511 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: that's my third year and then I get hurt and 512 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: I remember the locker room this time for the game, right, 513 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I hope I'm still the same 514 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: player that I loved before. And then I ended up 515 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: with a couple of touchdowns in that game and having 516 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: that play that sent us to the playoffs obviously, and 517 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: had missed most of that season. I had missed most 518 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: of that season. And for us to have that connection, 519 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's a special thing about sports, right, 520 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: we have these moments in time that we all have 521 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: a different perspective of how it happened and seeing it 522 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: from a different land and being able to be a 523 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: part of that. Emmy Packer fan, that's like one thing 524 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: that they always read up. Yeah, yeah, that's that's so awesome. 525 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, it occurs to me. It occurs to me now. 526 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: The lockout. I had forgotten about the lockout and the 527 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: fact that the lockout happened, and the fact that in 528 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: that first game the only game on no one else 529 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: is watching anything but that, and that Erin trusted you 530 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: enough to throw you the ball. I mean that that 531 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: that you had already. I'm not talking shit about you 532 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: know the story behind that, right, No, tell me so 533 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: on the play that he throws it for me. I 534 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: was I was actually my second catch of the game 535 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: on that play, my first ever touchdown in the NFL 536 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers. He checks the play, and he checks 537 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: the play to where I'm supposed to run a flat 538 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: route to the sideline James Shawn's is supposed to run 539 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: a slant. It's a simple check. It's a simple concept. 540 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: But like in my mind, he gave the signal and 541 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: I thought the signal was like, it's a slant and 542 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: a flat. So in my mind, I was thinking, oh, 543 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: he's giving me the slant. He wants me to run 544 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: a splint right now. So I run the slant under 545 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: own route just happened to be open. He sees the 546 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: open grows, I'll make a guy missed before staving in. 547 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: So I have absolutely no idea. I'm thinking, oh yeah, 548 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: like me and him are like this, like I'm here 549 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: with you. Uh. It wasn't until I got back to 550 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: the sidelines and I found out all route. Yeah, did 551 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: you get a pound on the back at least? Or 552 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: did you just get chewed out for running the wrong route? No, 553 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta pat on the back. I got 554 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: a pat on the back, and uh he was. He 555 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: was like, hey, we got a joke. From from that 556 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: point on, and it's always like, hey, run the wrong 557 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: route and get the ball until that pick comes right 558 00:32:39,880 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: over the middle and then you're in big drum. Oh yeah, 559 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: but you know, I gotta bring it up. In twenty nineteen, 560 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: you leave for the Cowboys. How was that? Were you 561 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: excited for a new opportunity in a new place or 562 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: was that was that really difficult for you? Uh? Well, first, 563 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna say it, leaving wasn't. My contract was 564 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: up and it didn't get renewed or I didn't get 565 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: another offer, so it wasn't. I was like, okay, Well 566 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: free agency comes around and I don't hear anything from anybody, 567 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, is this is this? How 568 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: it all? It's for me? And then uh the Cowboys called. 569 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: I was like, man, okay, let's do this. They just 570 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: came off a playoff run. They got to mar It's 571 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: some opportunity for me. Good team, good scene. I was excited. 572 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I think be hindsight, looking back on it, it was 573 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: the best thing that could happen from my career at 574 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: that time because I had been in Green Bay so 575 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: long that I think going somewhere else rejuvenated me and 576 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: gave me a different challenge, right because when you do 577 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: something for so long, it becomes kind of mundane, right, 578 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: Like that's just kind of what it is. And it's 579 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: like everybody knows who did, who you are, what you 580 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: what you do. And I had to rebuild all that 581 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: I had to. I had to show my teammates like, okay, 582 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: like who is Randall cop? Who was who is this 583 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: guy that's coming in? So I had to earn my 584 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: teammates trust, I had to show the coaches what I 585 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: could do. Every day. It was like a proved type 586 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: of day for me. And you know, I think I 587 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: think that was something that kind of kick started the 588 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: second part of my career. You know, I loved my 589 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: time to that. Was had a great time. Uh. Coach 590 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: Garrett was great. I really enjoyed the time with him. 591 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: The Jones family nothing but loved and respect for you know. 592 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: They they took me in and want to cowboy all 593 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: the cowboys what they say, and I'm very fortunate for 594 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: what opportunity they gave me down there. Tell them more 595 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: excellent play caller. I loved him. I think he's gonna 596 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: be a great head coach one day. Yeah, so that 597 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: was that was a fun year. That's awesome. We didn't 598 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: we didn't win. We didn't win, we didn't make it playoffs. 599 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: But it was a fun year. Yeah. I I had 600 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: not heard that from you before that that you know 601 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: that that rejuvenated you. And that totally makes sense, right. 602 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's a change of environment, a new system. 603 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: You have to be adaptable and and changeable, and I 604 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: can understand how that gives you a renewed energy. You 605 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: go to Houston and then you get a call from 606 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: the packers about coming back to join them. Talk to 607 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: me a little bit about that. And the decision to go, well, 608 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: i'll call it home. The decision to go home, yeah, yeah, 609 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: to come back to come back where it all started again, 610 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't a decision for me. It wasn't It wasn't 611 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: an option. I got traded and it was the biggest 612 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: blessing that I could I had the year that I 613 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: had in used to like all of us during COVID 614 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: that first year, we were all going to stuff right, 615 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think that was in a great place. 616 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: It wasn't a It wasn't the environment that I thought 617 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: it was going to be. You know, it wasn't. It 618 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: wasn't what I what I thought that I was walking 619 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: through too, And uh, it was difficult. I had a 620 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: lot of tough talks with my wife about it, and 621 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: I honestly thought about retiring after that season. So I 622 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: was like, I just don't. I don't love the game anymore. 623 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't fun. It was like nothing about it was fun. Yeah, 624 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: So that was that was very a very difficult place. 625 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: But we we actually played the Packers that season when 626 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I was in US. Was actually when I was in 627 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: Dallas and played Packers and was used to play back up. 628 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: But I remember before that game it was like right 629 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: before the trade deadline what we played the pacts, and 630 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: I remember going out for warm up is just like 631 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: trying to go with everybody like please come get me, please, 632 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: somebody I was going to like I would have to, 633 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: like Mark Murphy like please, like I let's go up 634 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: to groop everybody. Uh obviously like we can't. They couldn't 635 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: do anything about that, but uh yeah, it all ended 636 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: up working out in and I was able to come 637 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: back last year. Then I loved enough here. I love 638 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: planning for this organization and and representing recundation, And like 639 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: I said, it's a special places, a special bond that 640 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: you have, and you know, I've been going away for 641 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: a couple of years. Just made me realize even more 642 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: what it meant to be a part of this organisation. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 643 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people missed you when you 644 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: left and are glad that you're back. I am hoping 645 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: and praying for you and the Packers that that you 646 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: have just an absolutely awesome year. I Uh. I know 647 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: last year ended not the way everybody wanted it too. 648 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: But this year, I'm I'm optimistic and I'm ready. I'm excited. 649 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: Good you are, You're excited, You're ready. I'm excited for sure. 650 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be It's gonna be a fun year, 651 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: you know. I think it's it's gonna be some different 652 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: challenges for us, but I'm excited about it. I think 653 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: that it could be for the better. Our defense completely 654 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: stacked going into this season. You look at every level 655 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: of our defense and you just got to play makers, 656 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, from from from Kenny and the rookie we 657 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: just drafted on the behind and the guys rotating in 658 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: their custon you know, coming back University of Georgia, Yeah, 659 00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: basically Georgia North. Yeah, so we we got We've got 660 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: some guys in our defense. We got Aaron Jones and 661 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: j Tilling is gonna carry the low for us in 662 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: the backfield. And any time you got to well, you 663 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: get the opportunity. And what I've seen from a couple 664 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: of our rookies and from our receiver business off season, 665 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: I think we'll be in a good place. I'm confident 666 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: and in that and I think for our offense, it'll 667 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: it'll be great because you'll have so many guys that's 668 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: getting involved. You have see me that's coming in, Kemmy 669 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Watkins and Alan coming back. AMR who's made some strides 670 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: this off season. I can't wait to see, you know, 671 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: what what happens with his career as this year goes on, 672 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: and the opportunity he said he's gonna get, you know, 673 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: And I'm really just trying to make sure that I 674 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: helped those guys understand what's in front of him. After 675 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: the career that I've had and the ups and downs 676 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: that I've went through, the valleys that I've I've been 677 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: in and the mountain peaks that I've touched, being able 678 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: to pass on the wisdom and learn have helped them 679 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: learn from the mistakes that I may have made my 680 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: earlier career and just see the big picture and understand 681 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: that we're we're all instead of puzzle. That's the that's 682 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: the the special thing about football is like, it don't 683 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: matter how good when person is, like, they can't go 684 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: by themselves. You know, even as great as Aaron is, Like, 685 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: you gotta have an offensive line protecting. You gotta have 686 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: receivers that catch the ball. That's right. You can't you 687 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: can't just throw Joe Smoke from Westford University out there 688 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: inspected that he's gonna make plays against plow corners, against 689 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramses, you know, and and all these guys like, 690 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: we're still guys, we're still pros that you know can 691 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: get it done. So I look forward to the seeing 692 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: all those young guys coming to their own and myself 693 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: included being able to um make some plays and be 694 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: a piece at that puzzle and help put it all together. Well, listen, 695 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: you're truly one of the good guys. Like and I 696 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: mean that, I mean that sincerely. I respect you as 697 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: a person. I loved hearing your story today and your transition, 698 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 1: your decision to choose longevity and an amazing career. Thank 699 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on and uh and talking 700 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: to me and to us and uh yeah uh go 701 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: pack go. Thanks Randolph Man. I appreciate all right. I'll 702 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: say it again. I'll say it a thousand times. Go 703 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: Pack go. Thank you Randall for joining me. I'm gonna 704 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: see you in Green Bay here in just a few months. 705 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: Have an amazing season. I know you will. As always, listeners, 706 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: if you like what you've heard, be sure to like 707 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: and subscribe, leave us comments or reviews, and then, more importantly, 708 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: come back next week for another exciting, in depth conversation 709 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: with someone very special. 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