Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2: Bombshell Tonight, the so called Ketamine Queen, a jet setter
Speaker 2: out of la accused of selling Friends superstar Matthew Perry
Speaker 2: a fatal dose of ketamine that killed him. Now guilty.
Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for being with us this after the so
Speaker 2: called Ketamine Queen denies she even knew Matthew Perry.
Speaker 1: What a liar.
Speaker 2: In the last hours, we learn Javen Sanghaj is the
Speaker 2: only one left standing after the death of beloved Friends
Speaker 2: star Matthew Perry. For other defendants have reached guilty plea
Speaker 2: agreements with the prosecutors, and I don't like any of them.
Speaker 1: They're much too lenient. But Ketamine Queen guilty. Listen.
Speaker 3: In a stunning admission that rips the mask off a
Speaker 3: Hollywood drug ring, Jasvine Sangha, the notorious Ketamine Queen, has
Speaker 3: confessed to peddling the lethal dose of the drug that
Speaker 3: killed the beloved Friend's icon. The bombshell guilty plea, filed
Speaker 3: in federal court on Monday, August eighteenth, marks the final
Speaker 3: and most damning chapter in the legal fallout from the
Speaker 3: star's untimely demise, sparing Sangha a trial. Known to millions
Speaker 3: for his role as chandler bing on the hit NBC
Speaker 3: sitcom Friends, Perry had long struggled with addiction. The fifty
Speaker 3: four year old was discovered lifeless in the hot tub
Speaker 3: of his Pacific Palisades home on October twenty eighth, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three, leaving a gaping void in the hearts of
Speaker 3: millions of fans. The medical examiner ruled that ketamine, typically
Speaker 3: used as a surgical anesthetic, was the primary cause of death.
Speaker 3: While the star had a legal prescription for the drug
Speaker 3: to treat his depression, he turned to the shadows when
Speaker 3: his supply ran low. Prosecutors charge that Sangha fueled his addiction,
Speaker 3: meeting him just four days before his death to sell
Speaker 3: him twenty five vials of ketamine for six thousand bucks cash.
Speaker 3: Here's US attorney Martin Estrada at a previous news conference.
Speaker 4: We charge five defendants in this matter. These defendants took
Speaker 4: advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to enrich themselves. They
Speaker 4: knew what they were doing was wrong. They knew what
Speaker 4: they were doing was risking great danger to mister Perry,
Speaker 4: but they did it anyways.
Speaker 3: Sang Ha, forty two, is facing up to forty five
Speaker 3: years behind bars for her part in the star's death.
Speaker 3: She pleaded guilty to a slew of charges, including conspiracy
Speaker 3: to distribute ketamine, maintaining a drug involved premises, possession with
Speaker 3: intent to distribute methem fetamine and ketamine, and five counts
Speaker 3: of ketamine distribution, with one charge directly tied to Perry's death.
Speaker 3: She has been behind bars since her arrest in August
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, a culmination of an intensive federal investigation
Speaker 3: that unraveled a sophisticated network preying on Hollywood's vulnerable elite.
Speaker 3: Her plea hearing and sentencing are set to take place
Speaker 3: in the coming weeks. The drug ring exploited Perry's struggles
Speaker 3: with addiction, with Sangha and doctor Salvador Placentia at its core.
Speaker 3: Sangha became the fifth and final defendant to strike a
Speaker 3: plea agreement with federal prosecutors. Placentia had already pleaded guilty
Speaker 3: to ketymine distribution in June, and other key players, including
Speaker 3: Perry's assistant Kenneth Iwamasa, friend Eric Fleming, and doctor Mark Chavez,
Speaker 3: took their own Plea deals to cooperate against Sangha. Text
Speaker 3: messages cited in court documents painted a picture of Sangha's
Speaker 3: illicit operation with Fleming, gushing to Ewo Masa that her
Speaker 3: ketamine was quote unquote amazing and tailored for quote high
Speaker 3: end and celebs. On the day of Perry's death, Sangha
Speaker 3: allegedly told Fleming to delete their text messages, a calculated
Speaker 3: move to cover her tracks. A March twenty twenty four
Speaker 3: raid on Sangha's North Hollywood home unearthed a massive stash
Speaker 3: of ketamine, methamphetamine, and other illicit drugs, solidifying her role
Speaker 3: as a major dealer with sanghas plea. The case takes
Speaker 3: a definitive turn toward closure, though none of the five
Speaker 3: defendants have yet been sentenced for their crimes.
Speaker 1: Here a few facts that could jog your recollection.
Speaker 2: The so called Ketamine Queen who sales Friends star Matthew
Speaker 2: Perry that deadly dose of ketamine, making a bill in
Speaker 2: exchange for what.
Speaker 5: Did the drug dealer dub The Ketamine Queen refer to
Speaker 5: Matthew Perry by his friend's character name, and.
Speaker 1: That would be his affinity.
Speaker 2: Matthew Perry's affinity with Batman and he would call himself Mattman.
Speaker 2: But according to sources, the so called Ketamine Queen Jasvine
Speaker 2: Songhaar referred to him as Chandler in their texts and
Speaker 2: emails when they would talk about drugs and drug deliveries
Speaker 2: code named Chandler. Wow, that was a toughie with me
Speaker 2: an All Star panel, but let's just go back to
Speaker 2: reality listen.
Speaker 6: Federal prosecutors allege that Perry first obtains ketamine from an
Speaker 6: unscrupulous doctor aiming to take advantage of the actor's addiction issues.
Speaker 6: Doctor Salvador Placentia teaches Perry's living assistant, Kenneth Ewa Massa,
Speaker 6: how to administer the drug and provides ketamine to both
Speaker 6: Perry and Ewamasa at exorbitant prices. When the drugs become
Speaker 6: too expensive, Perry and Ewamasa turned to street dealers, including
Speaker 6: Jazzvin's songha dubbed the Ketamine Queen.
Speaker 2: What a very dear and intimate friend of Matthew Perry
Speaker 2: says she doesn't think that ketamine is the cause of death.
Speaker 1: Why and what would be the cause of death?
Speaker 2: And what leads her to say that this is what
Speaker 2: the medical examiner has to.
Speaker 7: Say the Los Angeles Medical Examiner determined that fifty four
Speaker 7: year old Matthew Perry died from the acute effects of ketamine.
Speaker 7: Other contributing factors listed were drowning, coronary artery disease, and
Speaker 7: the effects of buprenorphine. Buprenorphine is used to treat opioid
Speaker 7: use disorder. The manner of death has been ruled an accident.
Speaker 2: Joining us an all star panel to make sense of
Speaker 2: what we're learning right now, but with me a special guest.
Speaker 2: Rowena Chew, activist and former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. His
Speaker 2: name tastes like dirt in my mouth. Convicted on multiple rapes,
Speaker 2: and she has just written a New York Times guest essay,
Speaker 2: I was a celebrity assistant.
Speaker 1: The power in balance is very real. Rowenach you thank
Speaker 1: you for being with us. I enjoyed your article.
Speaker 2: I read it several times over and I try to
Speaker 2: compare what you're saying and your situation with Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker 2: May he rot in hell two Matthew Perry's assistant number one.
Speaker 2: Matthew Perry was not a criminal. I was not a
Speaker 2: rapist number one. But you point out assistants often do
Speaker 2: things that are let me just say, legally and ethically questionable.
Speaker 1: In your case, what does that mean? In my case?
Speaker 8: I worked for Harvey for only a couple of months,
Speaker 8: and so I didn't have the opportunity to do things
Speaker 8: that were ethically and legally immoral. But I was making
Speaker 8: the point that the power imbalance is so huge that
Speaker 8: assistants don't get the chance to say no.
Speaker 2: You also pointed out a quote that compared assistance that
Speaker 2: may do illegal acts or unethical acts to the guards
Speaker 2: at astwards that they knew what was happening was wrong,
Speaker 2: And you make a very subtle yet important distinction explaining.
Speaker 9: Comparison was really with.
Speaker 8: Ordinary folks that lived in Nazi Germany, whether or not
Speaker 8: you can hold them accountable for the events that happened
Speaker 8: in the country. So I'm really making a point about
Speaker 8: bystanders that don't have any real power themselves, and they
Speaker 8: are essentially visible, or they don't have an identity of
Speaker 8: their own, and they don't have the autonomy to make decisions.
Speaker 8: And so I feel that celebrity assistance I also called
Speaker 8: them Butler's. I constantly felt that I was invisible, I
Speaker 8: had no autonomy. Frequently didn't really have a name of
Speaker 8: my own. I would call people up and stay, I'm
Speaker 8: calling from Harvey Weinstein's office, but I wouldn't mention my
Speaker 8: own name because I was add insignificant. So when you're
Speaker 8: in a power balance where you're that insignificant, I think
Speaker 8: it is incredibly difficult to be then thrust into the
Speaker 8: spotlight and held responsible for something as serious as somebody's death.
Speaker 8: I think that I am attempting to shed light on
Speaker 8: the fact that Kenneth Iwamasa may have had absolutely zero
Speaker 8: choice in a way that the ordinary person can't understand.
Speaker 8: He was a living assistant. The power and balance would
Speaker 8: have been enormous.
Speaker 2: At the end of your article, I noted that you
Speaker 2: stated it is often too easy to turn the butler
Speaker 2: into the goat. Do you believe that Matthew Perri's assisted
Speaker 2: who injected him with that deadly does.
Speaker 1: Is a scape gut.
Speaker 8: I think he might have been put in an incredibly
Speaker 8: difficult situation. Not only was his employment on the line,
Speaker 8: but likely his involvement in the industry as a whole.
Speaker 8: It could have been that he did not have another residence,
Speaker 8: and so as a living assistant, you know, really there's
Speaker 8: a power back dynamic on many different levels. I also
Speaker 8: think in the Weinstein case at least, that there were
Speaker 8: many circles of power, enablement and entitlement that were far
Speaker 8: more deserving of perhaps the legal system going after than assistants.
Speaker 8: You know, for example, how the Weinstein had accountants and
Speaker 8: board members that certainly knew of what was happening. So
Speaker 8: I think the assistants. I'm merely making the point that
Speaker 8: the assistants, I suppose, are the lowest rung on the ladder,
Speaker 8: and I think to hold them accountable and responsible for
Speaker 8: the actions taken by a celebrity, it doesn't take into
Speaker 8: account the enormous power difference between a celebrity and his assistant.
Speaker 2: Rowena che Is joining US activist former assistant to Harvey Weinstein,
Speaker 2: who has just written a guest essay for The Times
Speaker 2: titled I was a celebrity assistant. The power and balance
Speaker 2: is very real miss to I deeply respect you and
Speaker 2: what you have to say and your viewpoint, and I
Speaker 2: highly highly disagree with you in your case or some
Speaker 2: other assistants, not necessarily Weinstein's other assistants. Comparing that to
Speaker 2: what Iro Massa did in Perry's case, knowing that he
Speaker 2: had had seizures just sixteen days where he was unable
Speaker 2: to move or speak after ketamine injection, knowing that I
Speaker 2: consider this much much more serious.
Speaker 1: But I'll circle back to you.
Speaker 2: Missed you in just one moment, and again, I do
Speaker 2: appreciate what you're saying, but I find it vastly, vastly
Speaker 2: different than the case of Matthew Perry's assistant.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the facts, let's go to kill a.
Speaker 2: Brantley joining us investigative reporter. What I find very interesting
Speaker 2: right now is that it's all business as usual. Matthew
Speaker 2: Perry dies in the hot tub with a fatal overdose.
Speaker 1: The doctor is already back at work.
Speaker 2: Taking patients like nothing happened. He had to put up
Speaker 2: like one hundred thousand dollars bond. Really that's ten thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: and regular people talk you put up ten percent.
Speaker 1: He's gone, he's out.
Speaker 2: The so called ketamine queen has not been sentenced.
Speaker 1: The assistant, Kenneth Ewamasa, has not been sentenced. Why I
Speaker 1: think that the Feds.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a cat with a little mouse,
Speaker 2: just back and forth and back and forth until it
Speaker 2: bites its head off.
Speaker 1: I think that's what the FEDS are doing right now.
Speaker 2: They're playing toying with the various defendants in order to
Speaker 2: get them to talk to name other celebrity doctors and
Speaker 2: other pill meals headed by doctors in LA and other celebrities.
Speaker 2: I think that's what's happening. But to you, Kiln Brandley,
Speaker 2: Daily Mail, tell me the latest. We've got the doctor
Speaker 2: back to work. A lot of people haven't been sentenced.
Speaker 2: The other celebrity doctors, including one that just got shot
Speaker 2: in the last day of Celebrity Doctor. He was assassinated
Speaker 2: in his parking lot.
Speaker 1: Following all of the.
Speaker 2: Drama surrounding Matthew Perry's death and what's being uncovered, Hamid
Speaker 2: Mereshow Jay was shot in his parking lot. He was
Speaker 2: a celeb doctor focusing on addiction. We now have identified
Speaker 2: two potential victims, other victims of the Ketemine Queen.
Speaker 1: Both dead crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2: The Ketemine Queen, one of the two biggest targets in
Speaker 2: the investigation of Matthew Perry's death, along with the doctor,
Speaker 2: doctor Salvador Placentia, who just played guilty to Ketymine distribution.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he got a light deal Now, remember Matthew
Speaker 2: Perry's personal assistant, his friend and another doctor also took
Speaker 2: guilty please and are cooperating. You know what that means.
Speaker 2: They're going to rat her out. What more do we
Speaker 2: know about the case against the so called ketamine queen.
Speaker 5: You only die when you use needles. Matthew Perry's ex
Speaker 5: makes a shocking claim about his needle phobia, casting doubt
Speaker 5: on his ketamine death.
Speaker 2: Me psychoanalyst to the Stars, doctor Bethany Marshall, author of
Speaker 2: deal Breaker, and you can also see her on peacock
Speaker 2: and find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com dot Bethany.
Speaker 2: I want to circle back with you about this doctor.
Speaker 2: This doctor knew very well that Matthew Perry had actually
Speaker 2: seized up. In other words, he could not speak or
Speaker 2: move for an extended period of time to sixteen days
Speaker 2: before he died. Yet everything was business as usual.
Speaker 10: Listen details of Perry's last days in a federal indictment
Speaker 10: reveal it was very clear to doctor Placentia that Perry's
Speaker 10: ketemine injections were causing a total loss of awareness. The
Speaker 10: indictment documents three separate occasions where Perry froze up after
Speaker 10: receiving the medication, with Placentia commenting, let's not do that again.
Speaker 4: Defendant Placenta knew full well the danger of what he
Speaker 4: was doing. In fact, on one occasion, he injected mister
Speaker 4: Perry with ketemine and he saw mister Perry freeze up
Speaker 4: and his blood pressure spike. Despite that, he left additional
Speaker 4: vials of ketamine for defendant Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry.
Speaker 2: Joining me, Todd Barr, Doctor Todd Barr Board certified anatomic
Speaker 2: clinical forensic pathologist.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, he's also featured in Thin Places Essays Essays.
Speaker 1: From in Between doctor, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2: I've been researching and investigating what exactly happened to Matthew
Speaker 2: Perry when.
Speaker 1: He quote froze.
Speaker 2: That's hardly a medical description, but I've learned that there
Speaker 2: was apparently a significant spike in his systolic blood blood pressure.
Speaker 1: What does high nancy? Thank you?
Speaker 11: So a spike in his systolic blood pressure just means
Speaker 11: that he is having a hypertensive crisis. His blood pressure
Speaker 11: is elevated to a point.
Speaker 1: Kay, right there, right there? What do you mean hypertensive crisis.
Speaker 11: That means his blood pressure is at a high level,
Speaker 11: such a high level that it could cause death. I mean,
Speaker 11: people die from extreme fluctuations in their blood pressure. Blood
Speaker 11: pressure is supposed to live in an average, in a
Speaker 11: normal range. If you get too high, it's hypertensive. If
Speaker 11: you get too low, it's hypotensive. And either of those
Speaker 11: hyper or hypo can cause death.
Speaker 2: So when he quote froze up, what does that indicate
Speaker 2: to you? Is that some sort of a stroke or
Speaker 2: a near stroke? What's a systolic spike in blood pressure?
Speaker 11: I would say the term froze up to me sounds
Speaker 11: more like a seizure like activity, like a tonic chlonic
Speaker 11: seizure where the muscles contract and you get into this
Speaker 11: Ketamine is actually known for its anti convulsive properties. It's
Speaker 11: used to treat seizures, but in high doses it can
Speaker 11: actually cause seizures. And as we know by the reports
Speaker 11: that are out there, mister Perry was administered extremely high
Speaker 11: doses of this this drug, ketamine, which is an anesthetic drug.
Speaker 11: He was actually found with the levels that were compatible
Speaker 11: with surgery, and that you know, anesthesia that you would
Speaker 11: need for surgical procedures.
Speaker 2: It reminds me a great deal of Conrad Murray injecting
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson with propofol, and it took you know, hell
Speaker 2: and high water to get Conrad Murray charged convicted, but
Speaker 2: even that conviction was not enough to send sufficient shot
Speaker 2: waves through the celebrity doctor network in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: And now Matthew Perry is dead.
Speaker 2: You know it's Cala Brandtley's joining me investigative reporter with
Speaker 2: the Daily Mail. Kella, I understand that the doctor would
Speaker 2: provide the medication, the ketamine, along with Kenemine queen for
Speaker 2: the assistant to make at home ketamine injections. Now, I
Speaker 2: heard what Rowena Chu said that the power balance is
Speaker 2: way off, But shouldn't you know instinctively, especially after Perry
Speaker 2: was having seizures just days before that you should not
Speaker 2: be injecting ketamine to.
Speaker 1: Matthew Perry at home.
Speaker 2: I mean, this assistant needs to be in jail along
Speaker 2: with the doctor and the ketamine queen, the straight supplier.
Speaker 2: They all need to be in jail and we need
Speaker 2: to know their sentences. So what's happening, cal I don't
Speaker 2: understand what's the hold of right?
Speaker 9: Well, Nanthy, I also want to break down exactly how
Speaker 9: much ketymine was distributed to Matthew Perry. The doctors Chavis
Speaker 9: and Placentia distributed twenty vials of ketymine to Perry for
Speaker 9: fifty five thousand dollars in cash. That's charging him two
Speaker 9: thousand dollars for a vial, and that vile cost doctor
Speaker 9: chav Is just twelve dollars. So you can imagine how
Speaker 9: much money they were making off Perry. And that's the
Speaker 9: point that the prosecutors were making. Now, the Kedemy Queen Sanga,
Speaker 9: she sold about fifty vials of the drugs to Perry
Speaker 9: with Flemming delivering the product that they're Flemming the Hollywood producer,
Speaker 9: and they sold it to him for eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 9: So these people were making a lot of money off
Speaker 9: of Perry's addiction, and they clearly knew, as.
Speaker 1: You said, seezing up.
Speaker 9: And then you had the person who was injecting him,
Speaker 9: who was his trusted assistant.
Speaker 4: They distributed approximately twenty vials of ketamine to mister Perry
Speaker 4: in exchange for fifty five thousand dollars in cash. Defendant
Speaker 4: Placentia saw this as an opportunity to profit off of
Speaker 4: mister Perry. He wrote in a text message in September
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, quote, I wonder how much this moron
Speaker 4: will pay. He also stated in text messages that he
Speaker 4: wanted to be mister.
Speaker 5: Perry's sole source of supply.
Speaker 4: He wrote in a text message that he wanted to
Speaker 4: be mister Perry's quote go to for drugs.
Speaker 5: Matthew Perry's assistant allegedly found Perry in similar circumstances two
Speaker 5: times in the same week of his tragic.
Speaker 2: Death, joining us Rowena Chew, former assistant to Harvey Weinstein,
Speaker 2: who just wrote a New York Times guest essay, I
Speaker 2: was a celebrity assistant.
Speaker 1: The power imbalance is very real.
Speaker 2: You just heard other examples that celebrity assistants have named.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that.
Speaker 2: In this case the assistant is being scapegoated or do
Speaker 2: you believe he is rightfully being prosecuted as it relates
Speaker 2: to Matthew Perry's death.
Speaker 1: I do believe he's being scapegoated.
Speaker 8: I mean, we just heard about how other players in
Speaker 8: this system are making insane amounts of money, and I
Speaker 8: asked you to think about what does the assistants stand
Speaker 8: again in that equation.
Speaker 1: What does the money have to do with it?
Speaker 2: Rowena, Would it make it okay if he was paid
Speaker 2: more money?
Speaker 8: Oh no, absolutely not. I'm not saying that anybody was
Speaker 8: doing anything right. However, there's a big difference between the
Speaker 8: amounts of money the doctors and the drug dealers were
Speaker 8: making and what did the assistants stand. Again, I believe
Speaker 8: the assistant was just trying to survive. He wasn't making
Speaker 8: staggering amounts of money, and so therefore his incentive to
Speaker 8: do what he did was very different from the doctors
Speaker 8: and the drug dealers out there trying to get something
Speaker 8: for himself. He was merely trying to survive his job.
Speaker 8: There's a big difference in that.
Speaker 2: So you believe the difference, and whether he should be
Speaker 2: held criminally culpable is whether he was getting paid for
Speaker 2: shooting Matthew Perry up to his death.
Speaker 8: I don't think that there's a huge incentive for him
Speaker 8: to push this agenda, and therefore I don't believe that
Speaker 8: he was pushing the agenda. He was merely doing what
Speaker 8: he was told to do under incredibly strenuous circumstances. So
Speaker 8: I'm merely saying that as a point of coercion. The
Speaker 8: assistant is not really this person who should be skapgoted
Speaker 8: that there are layers of privilege and abuse of power
Speaker 8: that are far greater than that. And you know, we
Speaker 8: can easily point to doctors and drug dealers who were
Speaker 8: making vast amounts of money and had a huge incentive
Speaker 8: to push this kind of an agenda.
Speaker 2: Mike McCormick joining me, Lean, investigator of MCUM Investigations in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Mike McCormick, Oh, respector Rowen and Chew, But I think
Speaker 2: that's completely I don't.
Speaker 1: Agree at all.
Speaker 2: Everybody in Hollywood is making money off celebs.
Speaker 1: Celebs are making money off the studios.
Speaker 2: The studios are making money off us and advertisers.
Speaker 1: That's how it works in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: It's like one bloodsucker sucking on the next bloodsucker, just
Speaker 2: like ticks, you know, stuck to the animal. But Mike McCormick,
Speaker 2: what do you make of what Rowena is saying that
Speaker 2: the assistant is the scapegoat. I think they should all
Speaker 2: be put in the same pot to boil and all
Speaker 2: be tried together.
Speaker 1: As it relates to Perry's death.
Speaker 12: Well, I don't think the assistant is being scapegoaded. I
Speaker 12: just think he was being more loyal, just doing what
Speaker 12: what the boss wanted him to do. It had nothing
Speaker 12: to do with money, was job security and loyalty.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on to some moment, doctor Manthony Marshall. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm not articulating my point that, well, the assistant lives
Speaker 2: in a mansion, he makes plenty of money, he rubs
Speaker 2: elbows with all of the stars, he drives a beautiful
Speaker 2: luxury car. Maybe I'm not understanding his poor conditions. I
Speaker 2: don't see it, Nancy.
Speaker 13: I have a unique perspective on this because these assistants
Speaker 13: sometimes come to my office. One in particular was the
Speaker 13: major domo for one of the wealthiest men in the
Speaker 13: world and had to stand around serving palomas to the
Speaker 13: family all day long alcoholic beverages, and he became so
Speaker 13: disgusted because one of the family members was drunk all
Speaker 13: day long.
Speaker 1: He was traumatized.
Speaker 13: He came to therapy and said, I just cannot do
Speaker 13: this anymore, and he left the job. So, yes, these
Speaker 13: assistants are vulnerable in the sense that they often do
Speaker 13: things they don't want to do, but they do have
Speaker 13: agency in the world. And I think in particular when
Speaker 13: you are potentially committing homicide. That's a breach of duty,
Speaker 13: that's lack of judgment that a ten year old knows
Speaker 13: not to do.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 13: We just know basically, you don't kill somebody if you
Speaker 13: administer a drug. They sees you don't administer the drug. Again,
Speaker 13: I mean, I'm sorry, but this assistant could have gone
Speaker 13: and worked at a bar, would probably I would prefer
Speaker 13: to scrub floors than to inject somebody with a substance
Speaker 13: that could kill them. It is just common sense. Of course,
Speaker 13: there's a power imbalance. Of course, there's a power in
Speaker 13: balance in life for all of.
Speaker 2: Us, exactly, you know, Caleb Brandtley, I want to follow
Speaker 2: up on what doctor Bethany's saying. Caleb Brantley joining us
Speaker 2: from Daily Mail call, and we understand that Matthew Perry's
Speaker 2: mansion is being renovated, especially around the hot tub, the
Speaker 2: pool area where he died. Seems as if for Hollywood,
Speaker 2: including the prosecutors, it's just business as usual. There are
Speaker 2: no sentences on the people that have agreed to plead guilty.
Speaker 2: It just seems as if everyone's acting as though nothing happened.
Speaker 1: Matthew Perry is dead.
Speaker 2: These people, according to the FEDS, are responsible. Why aren't
Speaker 2: they behind bars Killa And what if anything, can you
Speaker 2: tell me about when these people are going to jail?
Speaker 1: And one other question.
Speaker 2: Apparently one of Perry's intimate friends states that he Perry
Speaker 2: was deathly afraid of needles and she is questioning the
Speaker 2: real cod Keilla listen.
Speaker 6: One of Perry's former assistants and ex girlfriend, Katie Edwards,
Speaker 6: says she does not believe Perry could have possibly been
Speaker 6: taking ketamine. Edwards describes Perry's in tense fear of needles,
Speaker 6: saying he wouldn't even consider a tattoo due to the phobia.
Speaker 6: Edwards was no stranger to Perry's addiction and told him
Speaker 6: he would die in an argument over his drug use.
Speaker 6: Perry's response quote, you only die when you use needles,
Speaker 6: and I would never ever do that.
Speaker 1: Caleb Brantley, what about it?
Speaker 2: This person an intimate friend of Perry's raising the specter
Speaker 2: up another cood cause of death.
Speaker 9: I understand that, Nancy, But it was Katie Edwards. She
Speaker 9: dated him back in two thousand and six, worked as
Speaker 9: an assistant until like twenty eleven, so while they were
Speaker 9: still friends, they hadn't dated in a while, and I
Speaker 9: understand that she said that he had a fear of this.
Speaker 9: But Matthew Perry himself had written in his book about
Speaker 9: these kenemine infusions that he was taking and how it
Speaker 9: felt and how it was helping him. So I personally
Speaker 9: am not so sure of that theory. And you do
Speaker 9: have his assistant and everyone basically admitting to injecting him.
Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Oh yeah, people think she's beautiful,
Speaker 2: she's glamorous.
Speaker 1: She posts all sorts of really really.
Speaker 2: Refined photos and videos on her social media. But the
Speaker 2: so called Ketamine Queen Jazzavin sayingha is nothing more but
Speaker 2: a dope dealer.
Speaker 5: The Fed say there are likely more victims of the
Speaker 5: infamous ketamine Queen.
Speaker 2: Apparently, celebrities and celebrity doctors alike across Hollywood are quaking
Speaker 2: in their boots, afraid that the so called ketamine Queen
Speaker 2: is going to rat them out in exchange for a
Speaker 2: sweethearted deal from the Feds. The so called ketamine Queen,
Speaker 2: the one that supplied Matthew Perry the deadly dose of
Speaker 2: ketamine that ended in his death. Are there other victims?
Speaker 10: Yes, Listen Jasvien Sogha sells Cody mclowery several vials of ketamine.
Speaker 10: Later that same day, mclowry's family finds him dead. A
Speaker 10: family member tells Sangha her ketamine caused mclowry's overdose death,
Speaker 10: and Songha googles can ketamine be listed as a cause
Speaker 10: of death?
Speaker 6: There are likely more victims. Eric Fleming, who reportedly acted
Speaker 6: as a program director at the bell Air Rehab Red Door,
Speaker 6: also had a resident die on his watch. William Cooney,
Speaker 6: thirty six, was found dead of a fentyl overdose in
Speaker 6: his bathroom at the facility.
Speaker 2: So those are two alleged victims. Two more victims of
Speaker 2: the ketamine Queen. That makes three if those two victims
Speaker 2: are to be believed. In fact, Cody's family is speaking
Speaker 2: out against the ketamine Queen and.
Speaker 1: Is she talking?
Speaker 2: Is she making a deal with the fedes to get
Speaker 2: a light sentence and extra change for ratting out other
Speaker 2: solibs and other doctors. Man, she needs a lot of
Speaker 2: money to support this lifestyle. So what is the connection
Speaker 2: between the ketemine Queen and the other alleged victims?
Speaker 1: All dead?
Speaker 14: Coming to light are brog Mueller's deep ties to suspects
Speaker 14: Flemming and Songha. Mueller spent time with Songhai in one
Speaker 14: of her many rehab stands, and Fleming is reportedly a
Speaker 14: godfather to one of Mueller's children. Mueller reportedly pressured then
Speaker 14: boyfriend William Cooney to join her at pal Fleming's rehab program,
Speaker 14: where Cooney overdosed and died. Mueller may well have introduced
Speaker 14: Fleming and Songha to Perry as shortcuts to feed his addiction.
Speaker 14: Federal prosecutors report that Mueller is cooperating with the investigation
Speaker 14: and is not facing any charges.
Speaker 1: Let me understand, CALEA.
Speaker 2: Brantley joining us from dailymail dot com, the so called
Speaker 2: Ketamine queen Songha meets up with who and rehab? Let
Speaker 2: me say, is Britton Mueller, who apparently was very close
Speaker 2: to Matthew Perry. Now how does that connect and to
Speaker 2: Songhaw the dealer.
Speaker 9: Well, all roads are kind of leading back to Jazzmine Sogha,
Speaker 9: the Kennymine Queen. She was a supplier of multiple people.
Speaker 9: And now we do find this connection between Brooke Mueller,
Speaker 9: who spent time with Matthew Perry in rehab. They were
Speaker 9: close friends. And then we have Eric Cumming, who was
Speaker 9: a director at the rehab center where this man William
Speaker 9: Cooney had passed away. So this all is a circular
Speaker 9: connection of going back to Sangha and I'm have been
Speaker 9: on the radar for a while. Back in March twenty
Speaker 9: twenty four, the FED raided her house and they called
Speaker 9: it a drug imporium, these seventy nine bottles that some
Speaker 9: had tested positive for kennymine. So this is no surprise
Speaker 9: that Jazzmine Sanga is involved in this Matthew Perry case.
Speaker 2: Now two more alleged victims of this woman living the
Speaker 2: high life that supplied the deadly dose to Matthew Perry.
Speaker 2: Now would he be her third victim? Why has it
Speaker 2: taken that to bring her to justice? Are those investigations ongoing?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: This by far is not the first time a celebrity
Speaker 2: has died with enablers circling them like vultures.
Speaker 1: Listen now, I want.
Speaker 15: To heard of three.
Speaker 5: How are you doing?
Speaker 15: It's the security from Beverly Hilton, All right, what conor?
Speaker 15: I need a paramedic. Apparently I got a forty thy
Speaker 15: curial female I'm found in the bathroom to a fellow
Speaker 15: guy right now. But they're requesting paramedic crew. Okay, par
Speaker 15: fellow about them and I love rim Cantal. I'm not
Speaker 15: sure if she fellow. She was in the bathroom with
Speaker 15: the water four four four threepole. I'm sorry that the
Speaker 15: room four three fourth yet. Okay, they're not quet for
Speaker 15: anything else.
Speaker 13: There's room four three.
Speaker 15: Four thirty four. Yeah, okay, you don't know see a
Speaker 15: country of reathing at all. Apparently she wasn't breathing, and
Speaker 15: she's toy secured she was not breathing.
Speaker 2: But he Houston surrounded by enablers. Ultimately it cost her
Speaker 2: her life. Then there is John Belushi, one of the
Speaker 2: greatest comedians that ever lived. He was shot up with
Speaker 2: drugs at the Chateau Marmont and his assistant did hard
Speaker 2: jail time after shooting him up. Bobby Christina Whitney's daughter
Speaker 2: od It goes on and on and on. Of course,
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, Aaron Carter, Chris Farley went to rehab sixteen times.
Speaker 2: His younger brother finds him dead in his apartment. Of course,
Speaker 2: Prince died a deadly opioid injection. Goes all the way
Speaker 2: back to Elvis, China, Amy Winehouse and a Nicole spiraled
Speaker 2: down a drug hole, while everyone supported that and enabled her.
Speaker 2: Kurt Cobain, River Phoenix. It goes on and on, and
Speaker 2: the enablers are never brought to justice. Joining me an
Speaker 2: all star panel to make sense of what we know
Speaker 2: right now? Do you believe, Cala Brantley that this signals
Speaker 2: the beginning of a celebrity a celebrity doctor cracked down.
Speaker 9: I think it's very possible, Nancy, especially now that we
Speaker 9: have people who are making Klea feels. You could see
Speaker 9: them speak and tell you know their networks of people
Speaker 9: and connections, and this could be the craft out at
Speaker 9: the beginning of a bunch of doctors who are prescribing
Speaker 9: people deadly, deadly medications. We have from the pleas so far,
Speaker 9: people admitting, including his assistant, to covering up and cleaning
Speaker 9: up this scene by getting rid of syringes and ketamine
Speaker 9: vials that's according to the pre agreement, and telling each
Speaker 9: other to delete things. So we see an orchestrated system
Speaker 9: from these people who are trying to get away with
Speaker 9: clearly knowing that they did something wrong.
Speaker 2: To Todd Barr joining us doctor Barr, Board certified and
Speaker 2: atomic clinical forensic pathologist, Doctor Barr, what do you notice
Speaker 2: about the death certificate.
Speaker 1: So, Nancy, I.
Speaker 11: Have a lot of real issues with the way this
Speaker 11: case was decided. As a forensic expert, I have been
Speaker 11: involved in prosecutions of crimes that involved other people distributing
Speaker 11: or administering drugs to a victim. The very definition of
Speaker 11: a homicide is death at the hands of another period,
Speaker 11: whether it's by omission or comission. In this case, comission.
Speaker 11: They brought in drugs, they injected them into Matthew Perry's body.
Speaker 11: They should be charged with a homicide. They should be
Speaker 11: charged with murder straight up, everyone that's involved. Now, the
Speaker 11: second part of this is the official cause of death
Speaker 11: was listed as the acute effects of ketamine, and then
Speaker 11: other conditions or contributing conditions included drowning. Now, there are
Speaker 11: certain stigmata of drowning that you see at autopsy. If
Speaker 11: those are present, then a drowning occurred. So Matthew Perry's
Speaker 11: death is literally because of drowning. But then there's a
Speaker 11: part b or drowning due to the intoxicating effects of ketamine.
Speaker 11: So he was so dissociative and esthetized that he slipped
Speaker 11: under the water. If they're going to list drowning as
Speaker 11: a contributing factor. Then that means they had evidence that
Speaker 11: he drowned, so it should have been listed as a
Speaker 11: drowning Number one due to the effects of ketamine, and
Speaker 11: the manner of death should have been listed as homicide.
Speaker 11: So I have a very strong opinion about the way
Speaker 11: this death certificate was worded, and I believe that sometimes
Speaker 11: when it's worded this way, defendants get off a lot easier. Now,
Speaker 11: I don't know if in LA they have something going
Speaker 11: where they were these death certificates in a way, so
Speaker 11: people get off a little easier.
Speaker 1: But that's my take too.
Speaker 2: Rowena Toe joining us former assistant to Harvey Weinstein now activists,
Speaker 2: who has just written a New York Times guest essay
Speaker 2: called I was a celebrity assistant. The power and balance
Speaker 2: is a very real thought to you, Rowena, what do
Speaker 2: you make of it all?
Speaker 8: I think there are levels of power that we could
Speaker 8: go after that are much more intense than that of
Speaker 8: the assistant. I think the assistant, being the lowest run
Speaker 8: on the ladder, probably is the last person that anyone
Speaker 8: should go after because he has read his little autonomy.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that no one should be held accountable.
Speaker 8: I'm saying that there are levels of power above him
Speaker 8: that should be accountable before he is.
Speaker 2: Saying her know to all of our customers. As the quote,
Speaker 2: ketymine queen, Now that's certainly something you.
Speaker 1: Don't want in your scrapbook.
Speaker 2: It's charged with five counts of ketemine distribution, including one
Speaker 2: count of distribution that results in death, the death of
Speaker 2: Matthew Perry. She pled guilty in his PS Friends reruns
Speaker 2: are on all the time. Everyone knows about Matthew Perry
Speaker 2: and his death thanks to the Ketamine Queen and all
Speaker 2: of the enablers around Perry.
Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend,