WEBVTT - CELEBS NIGHTMARE: ‘KETAMINE QUEEN’ MAKING DEAL? 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:02.840 Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:12.760 Bombshell Tonight, the so called Ketamine Queen, a jet setter 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:17.400 out of la accused of selling Friends superstar Matthew Perry 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:22.239 a fatal dose of ketamine that killed him. Now guilty. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.119 I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.480 thank you for being with us this after the so 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:34.920 called Ketamine Queen denies she even knew Matthew Perry. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:36.600 What a liar. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.560 In the last hours, we learn Javen Sanghaj is the 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.560 only one left standing after the death of beloved Friends 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:50.479 star Matthew Perry. For other defendants have reached guilty plea 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.360 agreements with the prosecutors, and I don't like any of them. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:59.600 They're much too lenient. But Ketamine Queen guilty. Listen. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.720 In a stunning admission that rips the mask off a 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:09.880 Hollywood drug ring, Jasvine Sangha, the notorious Ketamine Queen, has 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.640 confessed to peddling the lethal dose of the drug that 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:18.720 killed the beloved Friend's icon. The bombshell guilty plea, filed 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.880 in federal court on Monday, August eighteenth, marks the final 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.080 and most damning chapter in the legal fallout from the 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:31.720 star's untimely demise, sparing Sangha a trial. Known to millions 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.040 for his role as chandler bing on the hit NBC 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:40.120 sitcom Friends, Perry had long struggled with addiction. The fifty 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.559 four year old was discovered lifeless in the hot tub 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.400 of his Pacific Palisades home on October twenty eighth, twenty 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.240 twenty three, leaving a gaping void in the hearts of 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:56.160 millions of fans. The medical examiner ruled that ketamine, typically 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.800 used as a surgical anesthetic, was the primary cause of death. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.120 While the star had a legal prescription for the drug 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.960 to treat his depression, he turned to the shadows when 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:13.200 his supply ran low. Prosecutors charge that Sangha fueled his addiction, 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.799 meeting him just four days before his death to sell 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:21.120 him twenty five vials of ketamine for six thousand bucks cash. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.120 Here's US attorney Martin Estrada at a previous news conference. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:31.040 We charge five defendants in this matter. These defendants took 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:35.760 advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to enrich themselves. They 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.480 knew what they were doing was wrong. They knew what 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.520 they were doing was risking great danger to mister Perry, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:43.919 but they did it anyways. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.280 Sang Ha, forty two, is facing up to forty five 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.680 years behind bars for her part in the star's death. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.320 She pleaded guilty to a slew of charges, including conspiracy 0:02:55.400 --> 0:03:01.320 to distribute ketamine, maintaining a drug involved premises, possession with 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:06.360 intent to distribute methem fetamine and ketamine, and five counts 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:11.280 of ketamine distribution, with one charge directly tied to Perry's death. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.320 She has been behind bars since her arrest in August 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.320 twenty twenty four, a culmination of an intensive federal investigation 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:25.600 that unraveled a sophisticated network preying on Hollywood's vulnerable elite. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.600 Her plea hearing and sentencing are set to take place 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.800 in the coming weeks. The drug ring exploited Perry's struggles 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:37.000 with addiction, with Sangha and doctor Salvador Placentia at its core. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.240 Sangha became the fifth and final defendant to strike a 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:45.720 plea agreement with federal prosecutors. Placentia had already pleaded guilty 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:50.160 to ketymine distribution in June, and other key players, including 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:55.960 Perry's assistant Kenneth Iwamasa, friend Eric Fleming, and doctor Mark Chavez, 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:00.440 took their own Plea deals to cooperate against Sangha. Text 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.119 messages cited in court documents painted a picture of Sangha's 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:08.960 illicit operation with Fleming, gushing to Ewo Masa that her 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:14.120 ketamine was quote unquote amazing and tailored for quote high 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.039 end and celebs. On the day of Perry's death, Sangha 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:22.320 allegedly told Fleming to delete their text messages, a calculated 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.920 move to cover her tracks. A March twenty twenty four 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.719 raid on Sangha's North Hollywood home unearthed a massive stash 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:36.440 of ketamine, methamphetamine, and other illicit drugs, solidifying her role 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.359 as a major dealer with sanghas plea. The case takes 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.279 a definitive turn toward closure, though none of the five 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.640 defendants have yet been sentenced for their crimes. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.240 Here a few facts that could jog your recollection. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.880 The so called Ketamine Queen who sales Friends star Matthew 0:04:54.960 --> 0:05:01.160 Perry that deadly dose of ketamine, making a bill in 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.080 exchange for what. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.280 Did the drug dealer dub The Ketamine Queen refer to 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:12.880 Matthew Perry by his friend's character name, and. 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.040 That would be his affinity. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:22.040 Matthew Perry's affinity with Batman and he would call himself Mattman. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:27.920 But according to sources, the so called Ketamine Queen Jasvine 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:33.080 Songhaar referred to him as Chandler in their texts and 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.360 emails when they would talk about drugs and drug deliveries 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.400 code named Chandler. Wow, that was a toughie with me 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.000 an All Star panel, but let's just go back to 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.360 reality listen. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.080 Federal prosecutors allege that Perry first obtains ketamine from an 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.120 unscrupulous doctor aiming to take advantage of the actor's addiction issues. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.680 Doctor Salvador Placentia teaches Perry's living assistant, Kenneth Ewa Massa, 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.920 how to administer the drug and provides ketamine to both 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.600 Perry and Ewamasa at exorbitant prices. When the drugs become 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.200 too expensive, Perry and Ewamasa turned to street dealers, including 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.080 Jazzvin's songha dubbed the Ketamine Queen. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.920 What a very dear and intimate friend of Matthew Perry 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:21.000 says she doesn't think that ketamine is the cause of death. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.800 Why and what would be the cause of death? 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.920 And what leads her to say that this is what 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.400 the medical examiner has to. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.800 Say the Los Angeles Medical Examiner determined that fifty four 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.840 year old Matthew Perry died from the acute effects of ketamine. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:42.120 Other contributing factors listed were drowning, coronary artery disease, and 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.479 the effects of buprenorphine. Buprenorphine is used to treat opioid 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.920 use disorder. The manner of death has been ruled an accident. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.120 Joining us an all star panel to make sense of 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.120 what we're learning right now, but with me a special guest. 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:05.120 Rowena Chew, activist and former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. His 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:10.360 name tastes like dirt in my mouth. Convicted on multiple rapes, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.240 and she has just written a New York Times guest essay, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.320 I was a celebrity assistant. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:21.120 The power in balance is very real. Rowenach you thank 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.160 you for being with us. I enjoyed your article. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:28.000 I read it several times over and I try to 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.920 compare what you're saying and your situation with Harvey Weinstein. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:38.000 May he rot in hell two Matthew Perry's assistant number one. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.960 Matthew Perry was not a criminal. I was not a 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:47.960 rapist number one. But you point out assistants often do 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:54.760 things that are let me just say, legally and ethically questionable. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.760 In your case, what does that mean? In my case? 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.239 I worked for Harvey for only a couple of months, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.120 and so I didn't have the opportunity to do things 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:10.400 that were ethically and legally immoral. But I was making 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.040 the point that the power imbalance is so huge that 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.920 assistants don't get the chance to say no. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:22.280 You also pointed out a quote that compared assistance that 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:28.680 may do illegal acts or unethical acts to the guards 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:35.040 at astwards that they knew what was happening was wrong, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:41.959 And you make a very subtle yet important distinction explaining. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:43.360 Comparison was really with. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.960 Ordinary folks that lived in Nazi Germany, whether or not 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.240 you can hold them accountable for the events that happened 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.880 in the country. So I'm really making a point about 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:58.000 bystanders that don't have any real power themselves, and they 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.520 are essentially visible, or they don't have an identity of 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.359 their own, and they don't have the autonomy to make decisions. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.600 And so I feel that celebrity assistance I also called 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.160 them Butler's. I constantly felt that I was invisible, I 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.400 had no autonomy. Frequently didn't really have a name of 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.400 my own. I would call people up and stay, I'm 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.200 calling from Harvey Weinstein's office, but I wouldn't mention my 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.800 own name because I was add insignificant. So when you're 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.840 in a power balance where you're that insignificant, I think 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.000 it is incredibly difficult to be then thrust into the 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.600 spotlight and held responsible for something as serious as somebody's death. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.480 I think that I am attempting to shed light on 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:43.320 the fact that Kenneth Iwamasa may have had absolutely zero 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.360 choice in a way that the ordinary person can't understand. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.560 He was a living assistant. The power and balance would 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:50.360 have been enormous. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.440 At the end of your article, I noted that you 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:58.120 stated it is often too easy to turn the butler 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:06.520 into the goat. Do you believe that Matthew Perri's assisted 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:11.680 who injected him with that deadly does. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:13.240 Is a scape gut. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.559 I think he might have been put in an incredibly 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.560 difficult situation. Not only was his employment on the line, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.319 but likely his involvement in the industry as a whole. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.720 It could have been that he did not have another residence, 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.880 and so as a living assistant, you know, really there's 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.800 a power back dynamic on many different levels. I also 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.280 think in the Weinstein case at least, that there were 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:42.760 many circles of power, enablement and entitlement that were far 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.199 more deserving of perhaps the legal system going after than assistants. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.800 You know, for example, how the Weinstein had accountants and 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.560 board members that certainly knew of what was happening. So 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.240 I think the assistants. I'm merely making the point that 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.720 the assistants, I suppose, are the lowest rung on the ladder, 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.400 and I think to hold them accountable and responsible for 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.280 the actions taken by a celebrity, it doesn't take into 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.240 account the enormous power difference between a celebrity and his assistant. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:16.160 Rowena che Is joining US activist former assistant to Harvey Weinstein, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.920 who has just written a guest essay for The Times 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.280 titled I was a celebrity assistant. The power and balance 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.880 is very real miss to I deeply respect you and 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.120 what you have to say and your viewpoint, and I 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:37.000 highly highly disagree with you in your case or some 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:44.440 other assistants, not necessarily Weinstein's other assistants. Comparing that to 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:49.559 what Iro Massa did in Perry's case, knowing that he 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.480 had had seizures just sixteen days where he was unable 0:11:54.559 --> 0:12:00.640 to move or speak after ketamine injection, knowing that I 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.080 consider this much much more serious. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:05.920 But I'll circle back to you. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.560 Missed you in just one moment, and again, I do 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.400 appreciate what you're saying, but I find it vastly, vastly 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.320 different than the case of Matthew Perry's assistant. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.640 Speaking of the facts, let's go to kill a. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.079 Brantley joining us investigative reporter. What I find very interesting 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.200 right now is that it's all business as usual. Matthew 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.640 Perry dies in the hot tub with a fatal overdose. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.360 The doctor is already back at work. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.800 Taking patients like nothing happened. He had to put up 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.959 like one hundred thousand dollars bond. Really that's ten thousand dollars, 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.400 and regular people talk you put up ten percent. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.520 He's gone, he's out. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:50.040 The so called ketamine queen has not been sentenced. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:57.120 The assistant, Kenneth Ewamasa, has not been sentenced. Why I 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.840 think that the Feds. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.520 Have you ever seen a cat with a little mouse, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.640 just back and forth and back and forth until it 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:04.520 bites its head off. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.600 I think that's what the FEDS are doing right now. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.680 They're playing toying with the various defendants in order to 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.719 get them to talk to name other celebrity doctors and 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:23.920 other pill meals headed by doctors in LA and other celebrities. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.079 I think that's what's happening. But to you, Kiln Brandley, 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.080 Daily Mail, tell me the latest. We've got the doctor 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.040 back to work. A lot of people haven't been sentenced. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.160 The other celebrity doctors, including one that just got shot 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.400 in the last day of Celebrity Doctor. He was assassinated 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:43.800 in his parking lot. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.439 Following all of the. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.319 Drama surrounding Matthew Perry's death and what's being uncovered, Hamid 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.319 Mereshow Jay was shot in his parking lot. He was 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:59.720 a celeb doctor focusing on addiction. We now have identified 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.640 two potential victims, other victims of the Ketemine Queen. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:12.839 Both dead crime stories with Nancy Grace. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.880 The Ketemine Queen, one of the two biggest targets in 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:24.160 the investigation of Matthew Perry's death, along with the doctor, 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:29.479 doctor Salvador Placentia, who just played guilty to Ketymine distribution. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.720 Oh yeah, he got a light deal Now, remember Matthew 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.200 Perry's personal assistant, his friend and another doctor also took 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.520 guilty please and are cooperating. You know what that means. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.600 They're going to rat her out. What more do we 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.400 know about the case against the so called ketamine queen. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:52.080 You only die when you use needles. Matthew Perry's ex 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:57.000 makes a shocking claim about his needle phobia, casting doubt 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:58.880 on his ketamine death. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.240 Me psychoanalyst to the Stars, doctor Bethany Marshall, author of 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.320 deal Breaker, and you can also see her on peacock 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.920 and find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com dot Bethany. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.000 I want to circle back with you about this doctor. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.960 This doctor knew very well that Matthew Perry had actually 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.680 seized up. In other words, he could not speak or 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.920 move for an extended period of time to sixteen days 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:34.720 before he died. Yet everything was business as usual. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.160 Listen details of Perry's last days in a federal indictment 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.680 reveal it was very clear to doctor Placentia that Perry's 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.840 ketemine injections were causing a total loss of awareness. The 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:50.520 indictment documents three separate occasions where Perry froze up after 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:55.600 receiving the medication, with Placentia commenting, let's not do that again. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.360 Defendant Placenta knew full well the danger of what he 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.960 was doing. In fact, on one occasion, he injected mister 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.680 Perry with ketemine and he saw mister Perry freeze up 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.560 and his blood pressure spike. Despite that, he left additional 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:19.320 vials of ketamine for defendant Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:26.120 Joining me, Todd Barr, Doctor Todd Barr Board certified anatomic 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.320 clinical forensic pathologist. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:31.920 I'm very curious. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:36.840 Oh yes, he's also featured in Thin Places Essays Essays. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.920 From in Between doctor, thank you for being with us. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:43.480 I've been researching and investigating what exactly happened to Matthew 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:44.560 Perry when. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.720 He quote froze. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:51.400 That's hardly a medical description, but I've learned that there 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:59.440 was apparently a significant spike in his systolic blood blood pressure. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.760 What does high nancy? Thank you? 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.960 So a spike in his systolic blood pressure just means 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.840 that he is having a hypertensive crisis. His blood pressure 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.360 is elevated to a point. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:16.560 Kay, right there, right there? What do you mean hypertensive crisis. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.919 That means his blood pressure is at a high level, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.880 such a high level that it could cause death. I mean, 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:29.480 people die from extreme fluctuations in their blood pressure. Blood 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.879 pressure is supposed to live in an average, in a 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:36.040 normal range. If you get too high, it's hypertensive. If 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.879 you get too low, it's hypotensive. And either of those 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.920 hyper or hypo can cause death. 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.160 So when he quote froze up, what does that indicate 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.560 to you? Is that some sort of a stroke or 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.960 a near stroke? What's a systolic spike in blood pressure? 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:58.360 I would say the term froze up to me sounds 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.080 more like a seizure like activity, like a tonic chlonic 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:07.520 seizure where the muscles contract and you get into this 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:13.160 Ketamine is actually known for its anti convulsive properties. It's 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.320 used to treat seizures, but in high doses it can 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.400 actually cause seizures. And as we know by the reports 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:27.480 that are out there, mister Perry was administered extremely high 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:32.320 doses of this this drug, ketamine, which is an anesthetic drug. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:39.640 He was actually found with the levels that were compatible 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.080 with surgery, and that you know, anesthesia that you would 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.680 need for surgical procedures. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:49.240 It reminds me a great deal of Conrad Murray injecting 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:54.680 Michael Jackson with propofol, and it took you know, hell 0:18:54.760 --> 0:19:01.679 and high water to get Conrad Murray charged convicted, but 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:06.800 even that conviction was not enough to send sufficient shot 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.840 waves through the celebrity doctor network in Hollywood. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.560 And now Matthew Perry is dead. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.199 You know it's Cala Brandtley's joining me investigative reporter with 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:20.200 the Daily Mail. Kella, I understand that the doctor would 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:27.760 provide the medication, the ketamine, along with Kenemine queen for 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:35.439 the assistant to make at home ketamine injections. Now, I 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.919 heard what Rowena Chu said that the power balance is 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:45.919 way off, But shouldn't you know instinctively, especially after Perry 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:50.960 was having seizures just days before that you should not 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.960 be injecting ketamine to. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:56.639 Matthew Perry at home. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.360 I mean, this assistant needs to be in jail along 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.680 with the doctor and the ketamine queen, the straight supplier. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.640 They all need to be in jail and we need 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.640 to know their sentences. So what's happening, cal I don't 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.840 understand what's the hold of right? 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.240 Well, Nanthy, I also want to break down exactly how 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:21.600 much ketymine was distributed to Matthew Perry. The doctors Chavis 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:26.000 and Placentia distributed twenty vials of ketymine to Perry for 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.440 fifty five thousand dollars in cash. That's charging him two 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.520 thousand dollars for a vial, and that vile cost doctor 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.680 chav Is just twelve dollars. So you can imagine how 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.560 much money they were making off Perry. And that's the 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.640 point that the prosecutors were making. Now, the Kedemy Queen Sanga, 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.439 she sold about fifty vials of the drugs to Perry 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.800 with Flemming delivering the product that they're Flemming the Hollywood producer, 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.000 and they sold it to him for eleven thousand dollars. 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.760 So these people were making a lot of money off 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.480 of Perry's addiction, and they clearly knew, as. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:00.680 You said, seezing up. 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.000 And then you had the person who was injecting him, 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.000 who was his trusted assistant. 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:10.280 They distributed approximately twenty vials of ketamine to mister Perry 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:15.480 in exchange for fifty five thousand dollars in cash. Defendant 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:19.280 Placentia saw this as an opportunity to profit off of 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.879 mister Perry. He wrote in a text message in September 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:27.000 twenty twenty three, quote, I wonder how much this moron 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:31.199 will pay. He also stated in text messages that he 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:32.399 wanted to be mister. 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.320 Perry's sole source of supply. 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.320 He wrote in a text message that he wanted to 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.840 be mister Perry's quote go to for drugs. 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:48.120 Matthew Perry's assistant allegedly found Perry in similar circumstances two 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.600 times in the same week of his tragic. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:57.399 Death, joining us Rowena Chew, former assistant to Harvey Weinstein, 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.800 who just wrote a New York Times guest essay, I 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:01.920 was a celebrity assistant. 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:03.840 The power imbalance is very real. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:09.879 You just heard other examples that celebrity assistants have named. 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:12.240 Do you believe that. 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.560 In this case the assistant is being scapegoated or do 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.159 you believe he is rightfully being prosecuted as it relates 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:20.480 to Matthew Perry's death. 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:22.320 I do believe he's being scapegoated. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.960 I mean, we just heard about how other players in 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:29.199 this system are making insane amounts of money, and I 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.879 asked you to think about what does the assistants stand 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:33.480 again in that equation. 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.199 What does the money have to do with it? 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.240 Rowena, Would it make it okay if he was paid 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:38.960 more money? 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.840 Oh no, absolutely not. I'm not saying that anybody was 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.800 doing anything right. However, there's a big difference between the 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.320 amounts of money the doctors and the drug dealers were 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.280 making and what did the assistants stand. Again, I believe 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.960 the assistant was just trying to survive. He wasn't making 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.080 staggering amounts of money, and so therefore his incentive to 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.679 do what he did was very different from the doctors 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.600 and the drug dealers out there trying to get something 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:05.000 for himself. He was merely trying to survive his job. 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:06.680 There's a big difference in that. 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.320 So you believe the difference, and whether he should be 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:14.720 held criminally culpable is whether he was getting paid for 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:16.879 shooting Matthew Perry up to his death. 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.920 I don't think that there's a huge incentive for him 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.800 to push this agenda, and therefore I don't believe that 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.159 he was pushing the agenda. He was merely doing what 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:31.320 he was told to do under incredibly strenuous circumstances. So 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.879 I'm merely saying that as a point of coercion. The 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.960 assistant is not really this person who should be skapgoted 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.399 that there are layers of privilege and abuse of power 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.080 that are far greater than that. And you know, we 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.720 can easily point to doctors and drug dealers who were 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.560 making vast amounts of money and had a huge incentive 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.119 to push this kind of an agenda. 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:56.040 Mike McCormick joining me, Lean, investigator of MCUM Investigations in Hollywood. 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.360 Mike McCormick, Oh, respector Rowen and Chew, But I think 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.000 that's completely I don't. 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:01.639 Agree at all. 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:06.680 Everybody in Hollywood is making money off celebs. 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:08.880 Celebs are making money off the studios. 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:12.280 The studios are making money off us and advertisers. 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.280 That's how it works in Hollywood. 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.840 It's like one bloodsucker sucking on the next bloodsucker, just 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:25.119 like ticks, you know, stuck to the animal. But Mike McCormick, 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.400 what do you make of what Rowena is saying that 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:33.200 the assistant is the scapegoat. I think they should all 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.399 be put in the same pot to boil and all 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:37.560 be tried together. 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.280 As it relates to Perry's death. 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:44.040 Well, I don't think the assistant is being scapegoaded. I 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:51.560 just think he was being more loyal, just doing what 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.480 what the boss wanted him to do. It had nothing 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:59.240 to do with money, was job security and loyalty. 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.840 Okay, hold on to some moment, doctor Manthony Marshall. Maybe 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:06.040 I'm not articulating my point that, well, the assistant lives 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.520 in a mansion, he makes plenty of money, he rubs 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:14.159 elbows with all of the stars, he drives a beautiful 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:18.960 luxury car. Maybe I'm not understanding his poor conditions. I 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.439 don't see it, Nancy. 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.440 I have a unique perspective on this because these assistants 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.159 sometimes come to my office. One in particular was the 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.639 major domo for one of the wealthiest men in the 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:33.159 world and had to stand around serving palomas to the 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:37.679 family all day long alcoholic beverages, and he became so 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:42.040 disgusted because one of the family members was drunk all 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:42.600 day long. 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:43.920 He was traumatized. 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.399 He came to therapy and said, I just cannot do 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:50.359 this anymore, and he left the job. So, yes, these 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:55.080 assistants are vulnerable in the sense that they often do 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.239 things they don't want to do, but they do have 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.920