1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Arizona straight to the line. There's the snap to Murray. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Murray looks left pumps once looking looking a lot of time. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Now we've rove and it didn't sucking out a line, 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: picked up down the left sideline, picked up a block 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: at the thirty twenty twenty Amoni ten five and he's 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: spun out a pound right there. I say you, twenty four, 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: I see you. Welcome to the Twentymen in the Huddle 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: podcast presented by Microsoft. And look, it's regular season time. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: Camp is finally over and this is the fun part, 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: right and unfortunate, there were some tough decisions that had 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: to be made in Alan Park this week. Lines had 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: to go from eighty players to fifty three. And that's 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: always a tough time for you know, GM, for head coach, 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: obviously for players. I mean you're talking about some dreams 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: being dashed and it's a tough time. But it's also 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: exciting because now you've got more clarity. Right now you 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: know kind of what the Detroit Lions are taken, um, 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: you know that first week against Philly and kind of 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: what you're rolling with and the decisions that were made. 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: And look, when it comes to the roster itself. You know, 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: there are a couple of things that surprised me, not 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: a ton UM. I you know, first off, I think 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: I'll say this, the decisions. I think we're a lot 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 1: harder for Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell this year versus 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: what they had to make last year. And that's a 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: credit to Dan and the whole front office and UM, 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, and and Brad and and just getting you know, 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: some of the guys that they have in UM, you know, 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: drafting the way they did, you know, some of the 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: free agents that they signed, and the development of some 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: of the young guys UM, you know, going into their 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: second third seasons that are now expected UM to take 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: big jumps. And you know, I guess maybe a couple 34 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: of things that surprised me right off the bat UM 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: were Anthony Pittman UM and kind of where that linebacker 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: group shaped out. I thought that was one. He's a 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: core special teams guy, one of their leading special teamers UM. 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: And you know the fact that you know, he didn't 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: make the fifty three. I'm glad he's on the practice squad, 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: which is great for him. UM. But they had some 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: core special teamers there already, you know, Chris board is 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: a core special teamer, Robert Woods is as a you know, 43 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: core special teamer, Bobby Price, you know, so, um, you know, 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: they've got some guys kind of fill that. I was 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: a little bit surprised by that one. Um, you know, 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Jamar Jefferson, um, you know making it then not I thought, 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: was you know, an interesting way. They've only got three 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: running backs on the active roster right now. They're a 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: little short there. We'll see if that changes with with 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: Justin Jackson or um, you know, was with somebody else 51 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: from the practice squad maybe getting getting pushed up. I 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: really thought, um, it would uk Um was gonna make 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: the team. I had him making it just because of, um, 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: what he did last year in terms of kick return 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: right he was, you know, the seventh best kick returner 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: in terms of average per kickoff return. Um. And you know, 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: it was a little surprise. We had heard Dan Campbell 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: and everyone talk all through camp that, look, we value 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: what they do in the regular season. We didn't see 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: much of him in the preseam. We thought maybe that 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: was why, but um, it just they didn't really fall 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: that way. And so, um, you know, those were a 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: couple of the interesting ones for me obviously. The quarterback situation, um, 64 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: you know is what it is. Um. You know, Tim 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: Boyle and David Blou we're really just given every opportunity 66 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: to kind kind of take that backup job, and um, 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: neither one did and that's just the reality of it. Um. 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: They bring in Date Sudfeld to you know, a guy 69 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: who who's been a backup in the league for a 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: while now, former Big ten guy. Right, we're at Indiana, 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: so you know, we'll see if he can you know, 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: get up to speed rather quickly. What that means for 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Jared in terms of, you know, what he can provide 74 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: in that meeting room. So, um, you know, there's some 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: interesting roster decisions, but but not a ton that really 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: surprised me at least, um from being around camp every 77 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: day and watching the preseason. I think the guys that 78 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: that that are the guys you kind of you know, 79 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: you know who those guys are, and um, you know 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: that those are the guys that are going to roll 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: with you know. I thought it was really interesting and 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: it's something I want to clude in this you know, 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: segment of the podcast is we got a chance to 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: talk to Brad Holmes and the general manager and Ray Agnew, 85 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: the assistant general manager, Thursday afternoon, and you know that's 86 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: a half hour session and it's always terrific because you 87 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: can go through, you know, really the line of questioning 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: the roster, some of the decisions that were made, some 89 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: of the thinking there, and you know, I just kind 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: of want to highlight a few things from from that. Obviously, 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: you know, Brad talked about the difference in the decision 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: and the difficulty of the decisions from last year to 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: this year, and here's what he had to say about that. 94 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: I would say, just going back to last year, you know, uh, 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: trying to cut down to eighty five. You know, probably 96 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: after the first few days at camp, probably could have 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: told you yep, got the five. I mean you got 98 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: to cut down to a It's like, yep, I got it, 99 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: and even told you guys last year, you know we 100 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: cut down to fifty three. Last year, I mean Dan 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: and I maybe had probably one or two really discussions 102 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: you know that needed to be made. But you know, 103 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: fast forward to this year, you know, just getting down 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: to eighty five was it was difficult. You know, you 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: kind of got to about three and then it's like, Okay, 106 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I want to quite do this yet. 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: And so it's just it made it hard. And I 108 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: think all of that dates all the way back to 109 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, started this offseason, and you know, everything that 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: everybody put in during free agency, our pro personnel department, uh, 111 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, Mike disner Um and just getting the right guys, 112 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: in getting the right guys that fit. You know, you 113 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: get go through the drafts, you know, or a college 114 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: guy in department U doing a great job, so you 115 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: get this boost and talent, and so you combined the 116 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: boost of talent with great coaching staff, and you know, 117 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: here we are, and we had a lot of tough 118 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: decisions to make. And you know, I even know that 119 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: right now it's it's the fifty three and there's a 120 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: lot made about who made the team and who made 121 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: but I mean even the guys we have on practice 122 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: squad that we were able to get back, I mean, 123 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: it is it's not over. So obviously, you know, the 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: decisions were a lot tougher. Yeah, I mean even I 125 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting even at those you know that 126 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: that first initial cut from ninety to eighty five, like 127 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: very early on in camp, you know that he said Hey, 128 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, you knew who three guys were and then 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: it was a tough decision, you know. And the fact 130 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: that you know, they only had one or two tough 131 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: discussions when they were going from eighty to fifty three again, 132 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: it just shows kind of where they think this roster is. 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: And that's a good thing. Look, you want tough decisions 134 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: right every single year. You should. There should be a 135 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: group of guys that you talk about as general manager 136 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: and head coach that it's a really tough cut and 137 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: that's just that means your roster is headed in the 138 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: right direction. And so, um, you know, I thought that 139 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: was good to hear, and you know, we knew what 140 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: was going to come up, and it came up rather quickly, 141 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, the backup quarterback position and kind of the 142 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: thinking there, and you can think of this, you know, 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: two different ways. They gave David Blow and Tim Boyle 144 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: every opportunity and and and you know Dan said as 145 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: much that, hey, look we wanted we saw some things 146 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: even though Tim Boyle didn't win games last year, in 147 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: his opportunities to start, Brad said, we saw some things 148 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: that we think, you know, we're there that that we 149 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: can that work. With that, he can build on the 150 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: same thing with with blow you know from his experience 151 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: starting five games in two thousand and nineteen. And basically 152 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: he just made the point they didn't take that step, 153 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: and that's just the reality of it. And they put 154 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: them in a situation where they didn't feel confident after 155 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: training camp, after the priest season that they made the 156 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: right step. Now, should that have been made earlier? Should 157 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: that have been identified earlier, you know, to reach the zone? 158 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: And they're certainly an argument, and you know Brad was 159 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: asked that question too by Michael Harry here at the 160 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, I believe, and he just said, look, we 161 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, we saw some things we wanted to develop 162 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: these guys. We wanted them to take the step. We 163 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: gave them out for every opportunity to take the step, 164 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: and they didn't take the step. And so you know, 165 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: then the decision was made. And you know it's probably 166 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: a tough decision, right you signed those guys in the 167 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: offstage and you expect them to be the guy. Yeah, 168 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: so I'd say even going back, you know, when we 169 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: decided to bring the two back. You know, every single 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: decision we make, it goes to a very thorough process, 171 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: and we want to be as rational and sound and 172 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: in our judgment as possible. So um, you know, even 173 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: with Tim, you know, being that the wins didn't come 174 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: in the games that he played, but those first games 175 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: that he ever played in his entire life, we saw 176 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: some things that encouraged us to one us to keep 177 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: working with them and then you know, bringing back blow 178 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: and he's got previous experience and so um, we we 179 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: we we had the plan in place, we felt good 180 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: about it, and you know, um, they just didn't quite 181 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: make the jump that we expected him to make, and 182 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: so you just got to make some tough decisions and uh, 183 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: you just got to just find the best solution that 184 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: you can. Obviously they had built a relationship with Jared 185 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Golf in that meeting room, and look, they know the offense. 186 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, Nate doesn't, so you know that'll be you know, 187 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: how quickly can he get up to speed and so um, obviously, 188 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: tough decisions there, and you know, it is what it is, 189 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: and we'll just kind of see what kind of effect 190 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: that has. You know, hopefully it's something we don't ever 191 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: have to talk about because Jared Golf is healthy. Jared 192 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: golf playces well, and every indication from training camp and 193 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: the preseason is that he'll do just that. Um, he 194 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: had a terrific UM, he had a terrific training camp. 195 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: And you know, when asked about Jared specifically, you know, 196 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: this is what Brad had to say about, UM, the 197 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: camp that that Jared's had, and the expectation for him 198 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: moving forward, and just why they did some of the 199 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: things they did with Jared this offseason. I will say, 200 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: I do believe the confidence that he has going into 201 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: this year UM has been a big difference. And I've 202 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: always felt that he was a confident kid. Uh, you know, 203 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: he's always been a very mentally tough kid. But you know, 204 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: I think us giving him ownership and you know, letting 205 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: him know, like, look, we believing you were supporting you, 206 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna put you in the best position to succeed. 207 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, you're the quarterback, and so us surrounding him 208 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: with a little bit better supporting cast and giving him 209 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: that dead ownership. I think that's that's helped his confidence 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: in his show in this camp, you know, coming back out. 211 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: You know, I thought it was also really interesting how 212 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: Brad was asked if there was a position group and 213 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: and bray Agnew was asked this as well, if there 214 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: was a position group in particular that they were kind 215 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: of looking at, eyeing, you know, wanting to see develop 216 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: through the course of training camp. And position group was 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: the same as mine, and it was the secondary. Our 218 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: secondary was one that you know, going into camp, you know, 219 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: we let's just be honest, there was a lot of 220 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: question marks back there. Rather it was lack of experience, 221 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: lack of playtime. You know, guys that are had some ailments, 222 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, dealing with and you know, I'll say even 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: starting off at safety like it was, it was pretty 224 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: bare at the not at the end of the season, 225 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: but going start in the off season, you know, you 226 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: hopefully you can sign Tracy back and you know, you know, 227 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do on the next and so, um, 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: we had to kind of collect as much competition as possible, 229 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: and you know there are moves made along the way. Um, 230 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, even doing like a late claim on a 231 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: Juju Hughes and you know, I'll let Race speak more 232 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: on to Juju, but making a late claim like that, 233 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, during the postseason out of weight, he comes 234 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: in and so I think a whole lot of noise 235 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: was made about that, but you know that move ended 236 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: up being big for us down the road. So um 237 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: that i'ld say the secondary, and then you know, I 238 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: got appreciated the way Jeff Okuda and he earned it, 239 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: and we were upfront and honest with him, and he 240 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: didnt Kyle were back down or anything. He took it 241 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: and he earned it, and so a lot of those 242 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot of his questions, uh were what were answered? 243 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, I thought there were a lot of question 244 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: marks with that secondary. Obviously you resigned Tracy Walker, and 245 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: you knew he was, you know, gonna be a big 246 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: part of that amani or wire. He had the breakout 247 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: third season, third type for third in the NFL with 248 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: with six interceptions, But you didn't know what was going 249 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: to happen with Jeff Okuda coming back from that Achilles injury. 250 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: You signed to Sean Elliott, a veteran, but you know, 251 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: obviously it's a new situation, and you know he's been 252 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: injured some and he was coming off a torn peck 253 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: so um, you know, torn by stuff. I think it 254 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: was actually um and and so you just didn't know 255 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: how that was gonna kind of piece together, and I 256 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: thought that unit from the beginning of Camp Tom, you know, 257 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: where they were in the joint practice a couple of 258 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago and heading into Pittsburgh, you know, last week, 259 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I think that group really really just progressed in this way, 260 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, it was just trending up the whole way. 261 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: They had a really good last two weeks, and brad 262 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: In particularly talked about Jeff Okuda and how good he's 263 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: been and how impressed he's been. We've talked about it 264 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: on this podcast before, just what it would mean if 265 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Okuda the number three pick, you know, a couple 266 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: of years ago, you know, is that guy and and 267 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to Jeff after practice on Thursday 268 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: and I asked him where he was physically, you know, 269 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: from where he was before the Achilles injury and where 270 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: you know he is right now. And normally with that 271 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: kind of injury, some guys maybe lose a step, maybe 272 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: you lose a little bit of strength in a leg whatever. 273 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: He told me that he is stronger and faster than 274 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: he was when he ran out of the tunnel week 275 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: one for San Francisco, you know, last year, right before 276 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: that injury. And he's looked at. I mean, he's been 277 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: really good and that is a confident guy right now. 278 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: And if he's good, and if he's as good as 279 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: he's shown the last two weeks, you know this line 280 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: secondary can be a lot better. And Ray agnew he 281 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: talked about the linebacker position, and here's what Ray had 282 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: to say about. You know, wanted to see something out 283 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: of that linebacker group. But for me, the group that 284 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: I was interesting in watching with the inside linebackers. And uh, 285 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: I thought that group responded. I thought it was a 286 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: lot of competition in that group. You brought in some 287 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: new guys. You really only had a few guys that 288 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: played last year. You brought in some new guys and 289 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: you created competition with and I think that group responded 290 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: very well. You know, that's good stuff from Ray on 291 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: the linebackers, and that is a question mark, right And look, 292 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: they talked about Malcolm Rodriguez, they talk about Derek Barnes, 293 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, taking the next step and how you know, 294 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: with Malcolm Rodriguez, we've got to see it in the 295 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: regular season. Obviously he's been great in training camp in 296 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: the preseason, but you know, I think it is important 297 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: that you have to take a step back a little bit. 298 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: He's a rookie, sixth round pick. He hasn't been schemed 299 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: against yet, Like Philadelphia is gonna have film on him 300 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have a scheme for him. So can 301 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: he do it when someone's scheming against you? So there 302 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: was a little bit of pause, you know, by both 303 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, Ray and Brad about Malcolm. But you obviously 304 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: love what you've seen so far, and you hope he's 305 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: going to be a key contributor first, second, third down, 306 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: along with Barnes obviously, along with Alexandzeloni. But that's still 307 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: a group that you know, you want to see play 308 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: much better than they did last year. And so you know, 309 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: it was good that Ray was looking at that unit 310 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: and that Ray is excited about that unit. You know, 311 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: one guy I've been excited about it. I think Lions 312 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: fans you know, and I know Pja behind the camera's 313 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: probably excited about here too, is Aidan Hutchinson. And he's 314 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: a guy who, um, he's just looked apart. You know, 315 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: the Lions couldn't jump that card in fast enough on 316 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Draft Day just because they were excited that he fell 317 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: to him. And look, he's done everything to show that 318 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: he was well worthy of that number two pick. And look, 319 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: it's a Lions pass rush that was looked thirtieth in 320 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: the NFL in sacks last year. You know, their their 321 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: past rush win rate was was the second worst. That 322 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: unit needs to be better. And I think what we've 323 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: seen from Aiden Hutchinson over the past month is a 324 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: guy whose motor never quits, a guy who's got a 325 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: plethora of pass rush moves, a guy who's advanced for 326 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: his age just in terms of his work ethic and 327 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: his film study. He has done everything well with Aiden 328 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: m We we pretty much knew that he was a 329 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: high floor player, um so, but that also comes as 330 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: a question mark when it comes to draft sometimes because 331 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, what's his upside and what you 332 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: know is it? Is it? But you know, there was 333 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: a lot of things that we knew that he could 334 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: get better at and so him having the immediate impact 335 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: that he's had so far. Again, he hadn't played a 336 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: regular seat in the NFL game yet, but since he 337 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: stepped out there on the grass, you know, he made 338 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: it known pretty quickly that you know, he was about 339 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: business and you know there are some things that he 340 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: shown that. I think some people didn't even know that 341 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: he had all that. Ray, I can't stop smiling. I 342 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: love the kids, the kids, relentless, man effort and much 343 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: better athlete than you thought he was in the draft process. Man, 344 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: the things he can do rushing the pastor you know, 345 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: inside off the edge using his hands. He's very creative 346 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: as a russer. I'll just say this, we got the 347 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: right Ray ag Knew joked, and and there was I 348 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: was the one who actually asked the question. I asked 349 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: of both Ray and Brad just about you know Aiden, 350 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: and you're obviously excited on draft night, and has you 351 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: know what has he done to to further your thoughts 352 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: of him over the last month. And there was just 353 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: a big smile on Ray's face and he even said it, 354 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: he said, I can't get a smile off because I 355 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: love that kid. Um. Ray said he was a better athlete, 356 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: um than they even that that Aiden is a better 357 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: athlete than they even thought he was on draft night. Um, 358 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: he's just kind of checked off every box. And and 359 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: you know, I know you guys out there, you know, 360 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: love to hear that because there's a lot of expectations, 361 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, you're in the number two pick, you're expected 362 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: to start, obviously, but what kind of impact can you 363 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: have as a rookie? Can he be a double jiu 364 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: jitsac guy? Can he be a guy that really improves 365 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: that pass rush? Opposite Charles Harris, who's you know, also 366 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: had a really nice um you know, training camp, and 367 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: can those guys be kind of bookend guys that that 368 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: you you think you can really count on. So um 369 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: to hear what they had to say about Aiden Hutchinson, 370 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was, I was really really excited about that. 371 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: I was excited about the Harris stuff too, And obviously 372 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: he led this team in sacks last year was seven 373 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: and a half. But what they were talking about him 374 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: even taking another step forward. And now you've got two 375 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: guys that you're really excited about on the edge. When 376 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: Josh Pascag gets back, you know what kind of juice 377 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: can he bring in the middle and some of the 378 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: guys they have on the interior. So you know, look, 379 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: it's a defensive line that has to be better. You 380 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: guys know it, I know it, everybody knows it. I mean, 381 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks with this defense. And 382 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: look if the secondary is going to make their jump 383 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: that you know we heard them talk about earlier. That 384 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: defensive line has to take the jump too, because look, 385 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: it's a marriage pass rush and cover is it's it's 386 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: a marriage. It's what makes defense. You can't cover guys 387 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: unless you get the pass rush and vice versas. So 388 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: I think it's encouraging to see how the defense has 389 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: played the last two weeks, starting an indie and then 390 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, going over to Pittsburg to that first unit. Um, 391 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, I feel better about it, um than I 392 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: did at the start of training camp. I'm just gonna 393 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: be honest. I was. I was kind of worried about 394 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: that unit, from the linebackers to some of the new pieces, 395 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: and secretary was Jeff gonna be the guy? Will aiden 396 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: live up to it? Do they have enough interior? Um? 397 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: And I've been happily surprised with the way they've played 398 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, and and I feel a lot 399 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: better about that defense. You know, going into the Philly week, 400 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: now we'll see, you know, that's a pretty good offense 401 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: over there. That's a mobile quarterback, and you know they've 402 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: got some pieces and some weapons there, so you know, 403 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes it, but I feel better 404 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: about it. Um. And I feel better about this team overall. 405 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: Offensively they've been great. Um. And and to see that 406 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: leap from the defense has been good, and you know, 407 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: I'd really like to see it. Um. There was an 408 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: update on Jamison Williams. Um, you know he was Brad 409 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: was asked about Jamison, and I think it's a theme 410 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: that is shared by Dan and that Dan's talked about 411 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: all through hamp Is. They're gonna be patient with that 412 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: young man. Yeah, you know, he he is on track, 413 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: you know. Um, you know, again, I'm not going to 414 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: put out a hard date, but I will say, um, 415 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: the weeks and weeks that he's drunk together with his 416 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: rehab and UM, you know he's so he's so gifted 417 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: from a genetic standpoint, you know. Um, once he keeps 418 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: that consistency going, Uh, it actually could accelerate that return 419 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: that we're thinking. You know, you you gotta be a 420 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: little bit conservative and you know, on the safer side 421 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to forecasting those those those returns of play. 422 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: But UM, hopefully he stays on track, and UM, you know, 423 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: hopefully it's sooner than later. But we're going to continue 424 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: to be smart with him. We've always said that from 425 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: day one. I know he's chopping out the bit. I mean, 426 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: he'll put on the helmet right now and go out 427 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: there and he would jog a slant route if he could, 428 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: but he I mean that that. But we gotta be 429 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: smart because you know we didn't. We didn't make that 430 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: move for him just for a year one. That's just 431 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: a long term. Um. They are not rushing him back. Look, 432 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: he's on the reserve NFI non football injury List. That 433 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: means he's out for at least four games, and that 434 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: means he can't practice during that time either. So you know, 435 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: you have to remember that he hasn't practiced all camp, 436 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: hasn't practice all offseason, and so he won't even be 437 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: eligible to practice until that week of the Seattle game, 438 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: week five, and then you've got a buye week. So 439 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: it's not like it's a situation where you can say, Okay, 440 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: you know he's off NFI, he's he's ready to practice, 441 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: and you throw him in a game. It's it's gonna 442 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: take a little bit more time. And and Brad said today, Look, 443 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: they're not gonna rush it at all. They're gonna take 444 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: their time. He wasn't drafted twelve overall, they didn't move 445 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: up twenty spots in the draft for him to perform 446 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: and be that guy for them this year. Now they 447 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: still think he can. And I think November is probably 448 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: a time, you know, right around the time that the 449 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: calendar turns from October November, right in there, sometime after 450 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: the bye, after he gets you know, a few weeks 451 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: of practice that you can mix him into some things. Um, 452 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: And we could see him, but they are not going 453 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: to rush him. Um. That was a draft pick made 454 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: for the future. They think he could be a big 455 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: part of their offense moving forward and and they're not 456 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: going to rush him back. And I thought that was good. 457 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: And that's been the common theme by both Brad and 458 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: dan Um throughout so Um, you know it was it 459 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: was good. It was a good session, and I feel 460 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: better coming out of it with some of the excitement 461 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: that that Brad and Ray have about some of the 462 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: young guys, you know, some of the guys that are 463 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, you hope take that next step right like 464 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: a Derek Barnes, and just how important he is. Um. 465 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: What they talked about with Jeff Okudah, the camp that 466 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: that Jared Goff's had and just how much an improvement 467 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: they've seen with him, and and the confidence level with 468 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: Jared Um. Look when you when when you tell your quarterback, hey, 469 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: we believe in you. You know, the Los Angeles Rams didn't, 470 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: and that's why they made the trade. But when you say, hey, 471 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: we believe in you. Here's this offense that we want 472 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: to tailor around you and build around you, and here's 473 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: some weapons that that we think can help you. You know, 474 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: all that does is raised Jared Golf's confidence level and 475 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: we've seen that through camp. We've seen him you don't 476 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: have a really really good camp, and you add that 477 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: with the offensive line and DeAndre Swift and t J. 478 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: Hawkinson and d J. Chart has been good. And obviously 479 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: we also what I'm on Ross and Brown did and 480 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: offensively you felt, you know, really good and now feeling 481 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: better about the defense too. So look, I'm excited about 482 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, where this team is from where they started 483 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: camp to where they are now heading into the regular season. 484 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: And that's fun to say. Right the regular season, We've 485 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: got the Philadelphia Eagles at Ford Field September eleventh. It's fun. 486 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: Now the games mean something and look, I've got a 487 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: busy show for you guys next week too, leading into 488 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: that September eleventh game against the Eagles. I've got Dave 489 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: Spadaro from the Philadelphia Eagles. He's going to preview that matchup. 490 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Stacy Dales from the NFL Network, she's going to stop 491 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: by and we're gonna talk NFC North. Um. She's been 492 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: at the Green Baker Packers camp, she's been at Chicago Bears, 493 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: she was at Minnesota Vikings. She's got all the skinny 494 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: on the NFC North and those teams. So we'll do that. 495 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a key matchup segment that's going to 496 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: be news to the pod uh next week. And obviously 497 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: we'll be talking post game right afterward, you know, me 498 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: and PJ Clark will will get on and we'll break 499 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: down the game. Um. But so I've got a lot 500 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: of stuff leading in, we got a little stuff afterward. 501 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: So obviously stay with the twenty men in the Huddle podcast. 502 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: We have you covered from week one through week eighteen. 503 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: It'll be a fun time. Hope you stay around with me. 504 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: And Hey, if you guys ever you know, want me 505 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: to sit down with a player, you can tweet me, 506 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: you can email UM if you guys want to hear 507 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: from somebody, I'll probably have a player stop by next 508 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: week two just to talk. You know Philadelphia in that preview, 509 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: so um, you know, make sure you guys you know, 510 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: let me know who you want to hear and it 511 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: will be a fun episode. So um, look forward to 512 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: the run. It's a regular season. Let's go