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Speaker 1: Previously on Whedian House.

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Speaker 2: So I was really looking into things, and I saw

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Speaker 2: about the lack of justice in society. And they added

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Speaker 2: the words under God to the Pledge of Allegiance in

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty four. It wasn't in there before. And I said,

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Speaker 2: this is a betrayal of our constitution, the separation of

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Speaker 2: church and state. And so I refused to salute the flag.

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Speaker 2: And that's the first time that anybody actually tried to

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Speaker 2: expel me from anything. But that was just the beginning.

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Speaker 2: I'm very aware of what it's like to be against

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Speaker 2: the authorities that have or seemed to have all the

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Speaker 2: power and you seem to have none. That's what my

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Speaker 2: experience was, and I had to fight my own fear

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Speaker 2: in order to just keep going.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Whedian House. I'm your host, Theo Henderson. This

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Speaker 3: is our fiftieth episodes since joining iHeart Podcasts. This is

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Speaker 3: a milestone for the show and we are looking forward

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Speaker 3: to the next fifty. Before we get into unhoused news,

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Speaker 3: let's revisit a few moments from some of my favorite

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Speaker 3: interviews from the last to the episodes.

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Speaker 4: Vast majority of our precious human beings, imprecious fellow citizens

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Speaker 4: are there because they're dealing with the effects of a

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Speaker 4: deeply unjust capitalist system that puts a priority on profit

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Speaker 4: rather than satisfying human need.

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Speaker 5: Well, my name is Cindy McAllister. I've been coming to

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Speaker 5: see you that for about a year and a half.

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Speaker 5: Now I don't have my time here, and I try

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Speaker 5: to be a friend to everybody who I know who

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Speaker 5: comes here. I try to be a positive attitude and

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Speaker 5: I'm a class of friends just because I'm a nice person.

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Speaker 6: I believe it's going to get worse.

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Speaker 1: Why because of the rates.

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Speaker 6: With all an people don't want to go to work,

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Speaker 6: and how are they going to pay for their rent,

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Speaker 6: for their insurance, for their daycare, you know, for the

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Speaker 6: needs when the.

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Speaker 7: Ladies cleans this building on the night shift. She has

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Speaker 7: emailed the mayor countless time we need a better system

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Speaker 7: in place. She sees the folks that are laying there

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Speaker 7: all night long, who are asking for help, who want

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Speaker 7: to shelter red, who want housing.

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Speaker 8: Coming from a British perspective, I'm very minthful when everyone

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Speaker 8: always wants to point the finger America because obviously under

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Speaker 8: Trump it's really really bad. But I think it's quite

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Speaker 8: a dangerous game because it makes other countries get away

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Speaker 8: with it. I think it's quite important to be aware

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Speaker 8: of what's going on. But also I really love the

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Speaker 4: It comes down to do we have what it takes

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Speaker 4: to acknowledge the rich humanity and creativity Beach and every

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Speaker 4: one of us, including our precious unhoused brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 6: And siblings.

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Speaker 3: And now unhoused news Before we be good, I want

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Speaker 3: to issue a content warning for this story. This is

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Speaker 3: very graphic audio. The world can show up in ways

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Speaker 3: you don't expect. No one could have told me I

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Speaker 3: would be reporting on a story so infuriating and heartbreaking

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Speaker 3: as this one.

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Speaker 1: Well twenty twenty five is trudging along.

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Speaker 3: In May twenty twenty four, TikToker Natalie Reynolds played a

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Speaker 3: cruel prank on a mentally ill unhoused woman at Ladybird Lake.

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Speaker 1: In Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 3: The prank was to get the unhoused woman to jump

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Speaker 3: into the lake for twenty dollars.

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Speaker 1: You were going, you shoulda jump.

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Speaker 9: In right now.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna jump in with my shoes on O gotedy? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Ready?

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Speaker 3: The issue is the unhoused woman could not swim.

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Speaker 5: You said it was okay, You said he wanted to swim.

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Speaker 6: You told me to jump in.

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Speaker 1: I didn't tell you to jump in.

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Speaker 3: Yet, the prankster did not care and convinced the unhoused

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Speaker 1: I got well, only she literally died. No, sup, seriously,

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Speaker 1: don't stop.

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Speaker 10: Please are actually freaking me out?

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Speaker 9: Please.

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Speaker 3: The unhoused woman begged for help out of the water,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't know. She said she's drowning.

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Speaker 3: I did it.

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Speaker 1: I swear I did it. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Reynolds walked away, laughing with her crew as the unhoused

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Speaker 1: Nah this is bad. Wait, this is really nice.

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Speaker 3: Reynolds began to panic, but the damage was already done.

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Speaker 3: The only consequence for Natalie Reynolds was a permanent band

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Speaker 3: on TikTok, deflection of blame and tears. Plenty of tears,

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Speaker 3: indicative of people avoiding responsibility for their actions. The world

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Speaker 3: is increasingly becoming unkind to unhouse people in myriad ways.

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Speaker 3: This brand of attack on un house people suggest that

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Speaker 3: demonizing the unhoused is socially acceptable and even encourage during

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Speaker 1: And that Sun House News.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll chat with Felicia Nielle Sapernaro

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Speaker 3: from the Sitewalk Schools. Welcome back to Weedian Howse I'm

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Speaker 3: Theo Henderson. One of the things about cruelty in the

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Speaker 3: time we live in are its connections to the Trump presidency,

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Speaker 3: something my guest today knows well. Felicia Ranielle Sanperniro is

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Speaker 3: one of the directors of Sitewalk school who works alongside

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Speaker 3: fellow staffers primarily asylum seekers living in Reynosa, Mexico, to

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Speaker 3: at the Mexican border. This work ranges from rapid response

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Speaker 3: to policy the advocacy to offering free math, English, science

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Speaker 1: To children on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 3: I got to speak with Felicia about her journey to

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Speaker 1: Here's our talk.

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Speaker 9: Hello everyone, So, my name is Felicia Ronhill Samponaro, and

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Speaker 9: I'm one of the directors and foundaries of the Saltwalks School,

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Speaker 9: and the Sidewalk School has worked with the unhoused population

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Speaker 10: But it's very specific because.

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Speaker 9: We work with immigrants on the Mexico side who live

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Speaker 9: inside of encampments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on a house immigrants if.

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Speaker 9: You meant yes, And a lot of people don't know

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Speaker 9: what an encampment is.

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Speaker 10: I've learned that over the years.

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Speaker 9: So for me and the work I've done, an encampment

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Speaker 9: is usually a park and it's where about five thousand

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Speaker 9: people all live like they're homes. They build kitchens outside,

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Speaker 9: We've worked inside of eleven encampments over these six years.

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Speaker 10: In Matamorris and in Reinos.

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Speaker 9: And I'm gonna be honest with THEA when you contacted

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Speaker 9: I guess because it is immigration and it's somehow seems

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Speaker 9: separate from me for some reason, but it's not. It's

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Speaker 9: the same thing. And the community built within the encampments.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if people realize it's like a small

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Speaker 9: and help each other. But that's what I do. I say,

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Speaker 9: that's my introduction cool.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things that I went to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I had been unhoused over eight years, and I had

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Speaker 3: you know, a little to tell you a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: I was stabbed out in the streets.

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Speaker 3: I had recovered from very major surgery, but I became

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Speaker 3: to think that it's just one way or was one understanding.

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Speaker 3: When people found out I was un housed, they always

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Speaker 3: and then that was always used to throw me off,

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Speaker 3: Like you can become out of house. You don't have

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Speaker 3: like you know, another person I interviewed, gabro his wife.

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Speaker 3: She had terminal brain cancer. They weren't doing anything nefarious

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Speaker 3: She passed away. He couldn't support himself. The medical bills

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Speaker 3: a super in. So it's like these kind of stories

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Speaker 3: like Gloria who was fleeing domestic abuse and couldn't stay

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Speaker 1: She had a son.

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Speaker 3: Many shelters don't allow mixed siblings to stay at the places,

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Speaker 1: You know. So these things opened my eyes as well.

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Speaker 3: It's like this is it is not the simplistic people

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Speaker 3: So what inspired you to start working with the unhoused immigrants.

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Speaker 9: It was actually during Trump's first term, is when the

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Speaker 9: Cydewalks Bill started, when he started metering and leaving families

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Speaker 9: outa Morrison Canton where five thousand people lived for two years.

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Speaker 10: And most Americans aren't aware of that.

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Speaker 3: No, they were not, because I wasn't. Yeah, so this

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Speaker 1: Their kids are not left orphan.

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Speaker 3: So these realities are ongoing, but they're manifesting in different ways.

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Speaker 1: So just to set that out there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So let me also say, before I started doing

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Speaker 9: this work, I also had a very narrow view of

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Speaker 9: what it meant to be homeless and whether or not

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Speaker 9: you stayed in the shelter. So the sidewalk school, we

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Speaker 9: actually built a shelter. We built it in Reinosol, Okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and we built it because shelters do have rules. Sometimes

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Speaker 9: they can only take single women. Sometimes it's only the

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Speaker 9: rarely it can be the whole family. But then there's

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Speaker 9: a time limites, Like there's so much that goes into

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Speaker 9: So I've seen many Americans over these years upset about

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Speaker 10: You're not even living there, you're just here for an

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Speaker 9: So it is a privilege American to me standpoint you're

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Speaker 9: Right, So I'm glad you brought up volunteers inside the

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Speaker 9: why are you doing that? And when they would give

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Speaker 10: Been taken are scammed.

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Speaker 9: They wanted to be mad at the person living inside

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Speaker 9: You gave money that was on you, grown adult American,

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Also, I want to push back on that as well,

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Speaker 3: are you giving it from a perspective that you're giving

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Speaker 3: it out of a sense of generosity. What I find

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Speaker 3: will us sometimes with house people is this sense of gratefulness.

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 3: They'll come with bottled water, they'll come with food, they'll

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Speaker 3: then they want you to be grateful appropriately on camera.

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Speaker 3: And that's and it's you know that includes money too.

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Speaker 3: It's like, OK, and it's so exploit of that.

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Speaker 1: That is where I wrote a line.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, if you're not giving this

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Speaker 1: I don't care to have a camera there.

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Speaker 3: Or when I'm trying to feed unhouse people and you're

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Speaker 3: You don't know who's watching this video. They see their

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Speaker 9: So let me say, on the Mexico side, there are

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Speaker 9: That way, you know it's going to you know, feed

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Speaker 9: and you're starting to give out cash, what they do

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's another thing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah right, and so it's like you wouldn't like people

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Speaker 9: And also I'm the only black director of it, of

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Speaker 9: We're the only two, and so I wasn't gonna play

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Speaker 9: they feel as if they can take pictures of people,

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Speaker 9: I have always done. We don't allow pictures of children's faces.

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Speaker 3: When I was out on the street, I don't even

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Speaker 3: And I just have to interject on that, because there

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Speaker 9: We actually are in school on the Mexican side, and

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Speaker 10: But you want to receive our kids' faces.

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Speaker 9: Anywhere because they're in Mexico where there are cartels are real,

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Speaker 9: All of that is real on the Mexico side. And

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Speaker 1: Oh that sucks.

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Speaker 9: And I was just like, what did you ask the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if even just on the off chance that

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Speaker 3: still it opens up too much. Like I said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I've seen too many families get separated or get targeted.

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Speaker 1: Because they have children and they're on the house on

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Speaker 3: I had to run one with the family were torn apart,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It's just something I don't think that'd be

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Speaker 9: A power dynamic there, yes, that most Americans do not

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Speaker 10: Going along with it.

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Speaker 9: Many times we looked over and the parent the child

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Speaker 10: Like Victor and I.

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Speaker 9: Were kind of different that way. And I know any

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Speaker 9: volunteer listening to this now will be like the Cylowalk

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Speaker 9: School didn't want us there, and we want you there.

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Speaker 9: We just want you to be respectful of everybody and

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I totally agree, and I'm glad you brought that up,

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Speaker 3: how nimbi's because we call thembi's here, is not in

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Speaker 3: They claim they want people to get help, they just

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Speaker 1: In our neighborhood. I mean they.

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Speaker 3: Literally have coffer running up, try to give tickets, throw

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Speaker 1: They'll do anything they possibly care, but.

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Speaker 3: They have to supposedly emit this gracious kind of spirit

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Speaker 1: They just don't want to see them.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you see the encampment there on the

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Speaker 3: you're not going to call the police and they're not

442
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Speaker 3: going to find out that your encampment is standing right there.

443
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Speaker 3: So it's like it's just leading them exactly to the

444
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Speaker 3: place that they are going to be attacked. Do you

445
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Speaker 3: think they're going to stand there and stay there or

446
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Speaker 3: they're going to just attack because for no reason at all. No,

447
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Speaker 3: So their belief system is like unhouse people are the

448
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Speaker 3: boogeyman too. Elderly women and children. It's a very big

449
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Speaker 3: thing here.

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Speaker 9: It's weird the fear that Americans have of the unhoused population.

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Speaker 9: And I kind of wonder where it kind of gets

452
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Speaker 9: thrown into all of us, like to be scared of

453
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Speaker 9: this population, because I don't know, it's just a it's

454
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Speaker 9: a weird thing. I think most Americans have. They were

455
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Speaker 9: just scared of unhoused people for some reason. But like

456
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Speaker 9: I said, I've worked inside of love and encampments and

457
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Speaker 9: it truly is a community and often a very loving community.

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Speaker 9: But just like any town or city, there's fights, there's

459
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Speaker 9: you know, drama, but then also many nights like they

460
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Speaker 9: would play dance music and everyone would get up dancing

461
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Speaker 9: and it was like the happiest thing ever and we

462
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Speaker 9: were so happy to be there and it was just

463
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Speaker 9: one wonderful And this is an unhoused population, but there's

464
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Speaker 9: happiness in it, there's joy in it, there's sadness in it.

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Speaker 10: It's just like anybody else in the world.

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Speaker 9: You just have to take time and I guess walk

467
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Speaker 9: outside of your comfort zone.

468
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Speaker 10: But it's unfortunate that people do have a fear.

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Speaker 3: So you say you're working on the Mexican border side.

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed any intensity from the border patrols or

471
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Speaker 3: the law enforcement agencies over there against the encampmental there

472
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Speaker 3: or what's your eyes telling you or what you're saying

473
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Speaker 3: out there?

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Speaker 9: So now we're on the US side because once the

475
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Speaker 9: administration came into office ruffhyd Okay, yeah, he cut off

476
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Speaker 9: us eight all around the world, oh wow. And so

477
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Speaker 9: we were forced to come back on the US side,

478
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Speaker 9: which is how y'all know me through my Instagram because

479
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 9: now I have the energy to focus on that.

480
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Speaker 10: So we still do actually have a school in Madam

481
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Speaker 10: Morris for the kids.

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Speaker 9: There aren't a lot of people on the border anymore.

483
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Speaker 9: Nobody wants to come to the US. They're actually going

484
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Speaker 9: in the other direction to other countries. Nobody wants to

485
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Speaker 9: come here. And that was really hard for us. Like

486
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Speaker 9: I said, we worked with like ten thousand people at

487
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Speaker 9: one time. There was one time in Reinosa we had

488
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Speaker 9: seven encampments. We would visit every day just to make

489
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Speaker 9: sure people were okay. But all that's done, he's gotten

490
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Speaker 9: rid of all of that.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm speaking into the future and I'm not

492
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Speaker 3: saying that whole demand passes away soon. But if it

493
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Speaker 3: happens or he when this term is up, will you

494
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Speaker 3: guys return, because I don't think if there is going

495
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Speaker 3: to be another president, the next president is going to.

496
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Speaker 1: Let that stand.

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Speaker 3: Will you go, guys, go back and resume those kind

498
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Speaker 3: of activities.

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Speaker 1: We would love.

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Speaker 9: So right now we're doing legal observing here on the

501
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Speaker 9: US side. Okay, I'm the one that records people's disappearances

502
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Speaker 9: once they step outside of the courtroom where I live,

503
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 9: and that has gotten kind of hard. I don't know

504
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 9: if you saw the video posted the other or yesterday,

505
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Speaker 9: I've been getting followed recently by law enforcement in my city.

506
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Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen that.

507
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: When I saw the previous one you had, which is

508
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Speaker 3: why I reached out to you, I'm like, okay, I

509
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: got to have her talk about this stuff.

510
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

511
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Speaker 9: Yeah, So I was followed yesterday at Alta beauty store.

512
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 9: That was It kind of actually made me laugh when

513
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 9: I saw the sheriff park next to my park because

514
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 9: I knew he was there for me.

515
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 10: But my crime is helping unhouse people.

516
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Speaker 9: That's my crime, and that part should discuss everyone. But

517
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 9: that's why Victor and I are being followed now by

518
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Speaker 9: law enforcement because we spent six years helping the unhoused

519
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Speaker 9: and making sure they have food and clean water and

520
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 9: medical care, and we built a shelter and now we're

521
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 9: being villainized by our government for doing so.

522
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Speaker 3: Oh, like I said, we just in the first year.

523
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: It seems like it's been forever. But it's it's it's

524
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: so it's not unimaginable that he would be capable of this.

525
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: It's just unimaginable that people would vote this this tyrannical.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just we already we already knew what the

527
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Speaker 1: person was like.

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Speaker 3: It's just like it makes me really look at the

529
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Speaker 3: the thinking process of our society or you know, or

530
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Speaker 3: the lack of empathy or I don't know if it's

531
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Speaker 3: lack of intellect or poor educational opportunities, a lack of

532
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: critical thinking skills. I mean, as an educator, I'm just

533
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: like sometimes at a miss because I also remember how

534
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: it happens with budget cuts when we were going to

535
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: pre Trump and when they were eliminating basic classes like Civics,

536
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Speaker 3: And I was telling one of my producers, I'm like, well,

537
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: you couldn't graduate elementary or high school if you didn't

538
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: understand the basics of your civics of local, national, you know,

539
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: and executive. You just it was no way possible. You

540
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: have to pass that test. You have to know about it.

541
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: You had to know people of Congress, you had to

542
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Speaker 3: know the difference between the three branches of.

543
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Speaker 1: Government, what that role.

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Speaker 3: And it's like now when you hear residents or citizens

545
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: talk now I said this, there's no way you could

546
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: have passed, could have got out of high school without

547
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: knowing this. That they must not be doing this because

548
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: you can, you know, and it's so easy for people

549
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: to get taken advantage of or things that get over

550
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: on them when you don't have someone centered in understanding

551
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: they you know, did jet some floats some of you know,

552
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: the local politics you know, you know, societal impact of

553
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Speaker 3: ordnances or when you hear people say, you know, and

554
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: I take exceptions to some of the extreme leftist viewpoint

555
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: about voting, I says, you know what our people were,

556
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: the people that they worked the hardest for to make

557
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: sure that we didn't vote. If it was not a

558
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: big deal about voting, then why I did doing so

559
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: much much of their power to stop it and block it.

560
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: I was thinking, you know that that is the lynch

561
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Speaker 3: prian of the society. That's the lynch prion of what

562
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: we as black people fought for. You know, they killed

563
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Speaker 3: us because we started to read, you know, and understanding

564
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Speaker 3: the impact of that. And I don't think you know,

565
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: some of the people that are joining the movements understand

566
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Speaker 3: that very key crucial point that you know, how the

567
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: society is basically created and or decelerating advances that we

568
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Speaker 3: fought for, and that last election was one prime example

569
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Speaker 3: of that. The second thing was the issue with the

570
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Speaker 3: anti blackness that's been going on into it, but we.

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Speaker 1: That's the copy for another day. I can get it.

572
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I say this because there was such an explosion, rightly

574
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Speaker 3: so about the injustices that was going on in Gaza.

575
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Speaker 3: And then there's the linkage between the black community and

576
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Speaker 3: gossas and how we are into conected. But what I

577
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: took exception on was when Kamala Harris was going for

578
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: president and they're blaming her because she was at the

579
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Speaker 3: time vice president. She had you know, again, this is

580
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Speaker 3: why I started to question. I says, how is it

581
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: that we don't understand how the government is set up?

582
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: She's vice president, she ain't the damn president.

583
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Speaker 3: So who's going to be the one that signature is

584
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: going to be on most of the legislation and fighting

585
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: is going to be the president, not the vice president.

586
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: But also here is where I say exception with these

587
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: protesters going to her book tour but has no smoke

588
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: for the app but the I was going to cuss,

589
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: but the ignoramus that it's currently sitting in office. Why

590
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: are you not doing that to them? Why aren't you

591
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: finding out where he goes mar Lager or whatever hell

592
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: and pop up and do what you're doing to her?

593
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Speaker 3: That part I take exception was because I feel it

594
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: has that strain of anti blackness and and and sexist too,

595
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: but we don't want to talk about that. But I

596
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: just am been observing that you got all the smoke

597
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: for a private citizen because of all intensive purposes.

598
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Speaker 1: She's a private citizen.

599
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Speaker 3: There's not nothing she can do but wave a book around,

600
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Speaker 3: you know, a sling a little snot and say you know,

601
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: she's sorry, But that is not going to bring attention

602
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: like it would have if you put your foot up

603
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: into again put you know, just putting the fire where

604
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Now, why is it their intensity not fair?

606
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Speaker 3: And why is it that all of a sudden, everyone

607
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: is capitulating a cow towling to meg l manya col monster,

608
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Speaker 3: And like I said, that's just an observation that I have.

609
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Speaker 9: So let me say, I think, so I'm an older lady,

610
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Speaker 9: I'm more sure.

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Speaker 1: Not bless your heart, you're younger than me.

612
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Speaker 3: But thank you for that, thank you for that older

613
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: using that No, oh, thank you for that dog that

614
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: gave me a person. So here that Haley, I'm in

615
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Speaker 3: my thirties now.

616
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Speaker 9: But let me say, growing up for me, I put

617
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Speaker 9: this distance between like Jim crow Era and being like ten,

618
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 9: and my grandmother was alive and well, and it wasn't

619
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Speaker 9: until I became more of a teenager young lady and

620
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Speaker 9: my mom was like, what are you talking about. My

621
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 9: mom had to sit up at the top of the

622
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Speaker 9: balcony when she went to the movies when she was

623
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Speaker 9: a young They used.

624
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Speaker 1: To call it the buzzes roost.

625
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Speaker 9: And so she was like, Felicia, this was during my lifetime.

626
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 9: And picking cotton that was during my mother's lifetime. So

627
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Speaker 9: I do think like we have like, oh, this was

628
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 9: hundreds of years ago. No, it was it was very

629
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Speaker 9: recent that we were able to get the rights well

630
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Speaker 9: that we used to have, because he's taken them all

631
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 9: away again. But the rights we have for those few

632
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 9: years and now they're being taken away. And my mother

633
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 9: and my grandmother, they all fought during that time. They

634
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 9: were out there protesting too, so I could have a

635
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 9: better life. And I do have a child. And I

636
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 9: remember telling him like two weeks ago, I never thought

637
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 9: you would live through this bullshit. And I was so

638
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 9: sad from my child because when I'm gone, he's still

639
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 9: gonna have to put up with what's happening today.

640
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 10: That's going to roll over to my child's entire life.

641
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 10: And I never thought that would happened to my kid.

642
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 10: But here we are.

643
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 9: Our rights are being stripped away by this person, and

644
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 9: everyone seems to be cool with it, like the people

645
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 9: who are in power, the other people who look like

646
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 9: him seem to all be okay with all of us

647
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 9: losing our rights.

648
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 10: I was surprised to find it.

649
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 9: What's his name, Bessett, Scott Besset or whatever. Yeah, the

650
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 9: treasury guy or the money guy. I can't think. I

651
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 9: think it's like Scott Bessett or something.

652
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 10: I didn't know he was gay.

653
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: Or Johnson also Johnson, he's also yeah, but he's I

654
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: believe he's closeted, but that's yeah.

655
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 9: But the other guy's openly gay, and he's like one

656
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 9: of Trump's right hand men. And I'm like, you're a

657
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 9: gay man up here doing this.

658
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Speaker 3: And trying to eliminate the lgbtt i's rights and things

659
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Speaker 3: like that. You know, there's a lot of internalized homophobia

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Speaker 3: in the community, just like it's a lot of internal

661
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Speaker 3: anti blackness in our communities. Due yes, you know, we

662
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: have people that force us, you know, the vomit in

663
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Speaker 3: our mouth a little bit. These are you know, so

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Speaker 3: they are in every kind of every kind of crew.

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Speaker 1: We got a long ride.

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Speaker 3: It feels like it's been four years, and it's like, God,

667
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: how much more of this mattness that we going to

668
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Speaker 3: be able to take?

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Speaker 9: This week?

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Speaker 10: I don't know if your account was affected.

671
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 9: They went after us and all of our collaborators spending accounts. Yeah,

672
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 9: everyone went down for sometime this weekend, either twelve hours

673
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 9: or the entire weekend.

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Speaker 10: Like myself, I just sat back on yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Well I had taken a break, so and maybe that

676
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: had probably court inside it the time that they did.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I didn't know that.

679
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Speaker 3: Yes, they didn't like y'all talking about this the hero huh, Nope.

680
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Speaker 9: I got a warning and then this morning they were like,

681
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 9: if you do it again, we'll just terminate your account.

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Speaker 9: But the thing about Charlie Kirk was the clip they

683
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 9: were talking about was the one that Jimmy Kimmel did

684
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Speaker 9: that got his show canceled. I just put an excerpt

685
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 9: of what he said, which was really nothing, and that

686
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Speaker 9: is what got my account suspended this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Dang.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When we come back more with.

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Speaker 3: Felicia, Welcome back to Weedian House. Let's get back into it.

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Speaker 3: Here's the rest of my talk with Felicia Ranielle top Andero.

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Speaker 9: Let me just say so, where near one of this presidency,

693
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 9: I fully expect next year for Americans to be unhoused.

694
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 9: Oh yeahs who never thought they would be unhoused because

695
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 9: inflation it's killing me and I live in one of

696
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 9: the poor parts of the US. But my electricity bill

697
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 9: went up by like one hundred dollars and that's not food, Like,

698
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Speaker 9: oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: But by this.

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Speaker 9: Time next year, I completely expect there will be more

701
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 9: Americans un housed, probably than any other time Besides I

702
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 9: guess Vietnam War or something. Maybe I don't know, but

703
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 9: he's going to run this country into the ground. And

704
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 9: he has shown he's going to run this country into

705
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Speaker 9: the brown.

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Speaker 3: And I would have add on to that, there's going

707
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: to be a lot of unhoused Republicans that's going to

708
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: be saying that going to be shocked that they're unhoused.

709
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things and I don't

710
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: I have very limits of sympathy for because they voted

711
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: for this monster, this orange puppet into this place. But

712
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: the point of it is that they're going to have

713
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: to juggle the realities of being un housed and how

714
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: they're going to juggle it. It's going to be very

715
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: telling because they can't blame the immigrants because he's in

716
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: ran off and down to everybody in the country, so

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00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: he can't blame that.

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Speaker 1: And then the two you know, black people gonna get

719
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: the stray again.

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Speaker 3: They gonna blame us because like you know, for Stu

721
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: kind of way we came here to make them but

722
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Speaker 3: house it calls them to be out on the street.

723
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Speaker 3: But because he's gonna twist it some way that we're

724
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: going to be at the blame of it.

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Speaker 9: So I completely agree it's never going to be the

726
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 9: Republican's fault even though they voted for this and they're

727
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 9: watching the prices and everything go up.

728
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Speaker 10: I do post like today, I posted two interviews from.

729
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 9: Farmers who openly said they voted for him and they're Baker.

730
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Speaker 3: And would vote for him again because he was thought

731
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: they was okay hurting other people, but when but then

732
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: it started hurting them and everyone. He gets punching the air,

733
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Speaker 3: they're slinging snod and falling down ugly, crying off the.

734
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Speaker 1: Wall and all that kind of you know, I'd like, well.

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Speaker 9: Well, if this man's about to lose his family's farm

736
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 9: that's been passed now from generation to generation, it's like, well,

737
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Speaker 9: what do you want us to do about that? I mean,

738
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Speaker 9: you going for it. And then you also said you

739
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 9: don't want brown people here, so you got rid of

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Speaker 9: all of your workers like you wanted to happen everything

741
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Speaker 9: you wanted to happen.

742
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Speaker 10: So why are you on your crying on DV.

743
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: And then get upset, you know, because we don't share

744
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: the tear with them, Like well, you know, my mother

745
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: used to say, scratch it behind and get glad.

746
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Speaker 9: But then wants to pay Americans eleven dollars an hour

747
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 9: to be out in the hot sun doing back breaking

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Speaker 9: work and no health insurance, no water breaks.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no Americans going to do that.

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Speaker 1: And not only that too. And that's the thing too.

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Speaker 3: The reason they were able to get this type of

752
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: work was because of these deplorable conditions, not that the

753
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: community should be entitled to that. Like even in Therma California,

754
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: when I went out there, I will tell you here

755
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: my own perspective with like got to get out there

756
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: early any morning. He had to be there in there

757
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: like five or six because it's brutal to be out

758
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: there picking produce or picking anything.

759
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Speaker 1: In that heat.

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Speaker 3: And then what they have this whole operation set up

761
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Speaker 3: so by noon that you wasn't out into the you know,

762
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Speaker 3: the beating sun. And it's like it just goes to

763
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: show you the dynamics to nuances that these same hateful

764
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: people don't understand or don't care. They just was delighting

765
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Speaker 3: and hurting someone else, don't w as they wasn't hurt.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the things why in our communities

767
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: we are always blaming other other poor, other vulnerable community

768
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: members for our own situation instead of blaming where the

769
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: blame should be.

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Speaker 9: You know, yes, yes, you need to point ups.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because it's not it's not a drag queen, Uh

772
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: go out here making you unemployed, or it's not a

773
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 3: drag queen unhoused person jumping out and reading kindergarten stories

774
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: to your kids is going to corrupt them into becoming

775
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: something else. It's just this is the reality is that

776
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: we are focusing on the wrong people and the wrong

777
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: systems that are in place. I agree, but again it

778
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: goes back again too because I'm not educated.

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00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: Is it because.

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Speaker 3: We are not educated well, or we just have people

781
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: that are resistant of it. Because there's a movement we

782
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: were talking about in school when we were teaching, the

783
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: anti intellectualism movement. It was like anytime someone had the

784
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: appearance that they were intellectual, that they read books, that

785
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: they would be able to critically think and speak about it,

786
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: people sneered and poo pooled it and made it say it,

787
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: you know, And then that's why many of the conservatives

788
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: switched intellectualism with common sense. And usually their idea of

789
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: common sense is with hateful rhetoric or a very myopic

790
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: kind of understanding of complex situations.

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Speaker 10: So now I agree.

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Speaker 9: Let me say so, since I've worked over Mexico for

793
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 9: years and I've met people from all over the world. Actually,

794
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 9: I'm going to say it's our educational system here in

795
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 9: the US, because people from other countries speak at least

796
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 9: two languages, if not more, and they know things about

797
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 9: the US where I probably have never heard of the

798
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 9: place you've come from because that was never taught to me.

799
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 9: I've learned more in six years by working on the

800
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 9: border than I learned my whole life in school because

801
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 9: I was exposed to so many things.

802
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 10: I mean, and it's absolutely wonderful.

803
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 9: If you can step outside of your comfort zone, you're

804
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 9: rewarded a hundred times over. You're going to learn so

805
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 9: many things about yourself, about the world, about other people.

806
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 9: But I'm going to say this is the US education system.

807
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 9: It wants us to think this one very narrow way,

808
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 9: like we're the greatest country in the world, and that's it.

809
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 10: You only need to know English.

810
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 9: You don't need to know about all these other countries

811
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 9: and you're good well.

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Speaker 3: Also too, there's an emphasis on the lack of empathy

813
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: and the upsurd of joy, on people's pain and misery, like,

814
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: for example, if there is anyone outside of the uniformity

815
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: of white then they are open gang to be insulted, ridiculed, othered,

816
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: and it's going to be accepted. And you see that's

817
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: going on now. I just seeing this eclip where there

818
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: was on the show I believe this guy's name is

819
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: Myren or whatever, and he started saying the N word,

820
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: and it was very telling that majority of people got

821
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: up and walked out, but then there was a maybe

822
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: two or three black men just sat there while he

823
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: was disparaging black women, and it was very disturbing but

824
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: also very indicative. In order to stay in the graces

825
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: of white supremacy or basically being the lab dog or

826
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: white supremacy, you have to inure yourself or you have

827
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: to divorce yourself from the ugliness of what the messages

828
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: are such as that, such as the fact that people

829
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: are running around snatching forcibully families or throwing down people,

830
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: shooting people because they want their families to stay together,

831
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: or they're doing things the right way, but that still

832
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: doesn't trigger empathy.

833
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: That still triggers joy or happiness.

834
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Speaker 3: Like there's this podcast called The Necessary Podcast and the

835
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: Father is just the most violence human being vioreless boomer

836
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 3: that I've seen in a long time. He gets a sick,

837
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: sadistic joy out of seeing people harmed or getting heard

838
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: about people harmed, and his son is trying to educate him.

839
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: But I'm like, if someone's hard as black as that,

840
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: or has divorced the reality of people's humanity, there's not

841
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: any more dialogue to be had. You know, you just

842
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: have to just say, Okay, you're just an unrepented racist

843
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: that delights in harming other people. What kind of transformative

844
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: kind of conversation that we need to have because you

845
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: don't want to change you like that.

846
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Speaker 10: So I do have that experience. So I'm Mexican and.

847
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: Black, yes, yes, And so.

848
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Speaker 9: My mom is black and she was born in a

849
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 9: little black town. My mom and my grandmother she was

850
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 9: born there as well, are some of the most racist

851
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 9: people that.

852
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 10: You would be like, what y'all are together? It's like, yeah,

853
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 10: we're together.

854
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 9: She raised me. But I mean, over the years, especially

855
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 9: with my grandmother, because the words she would use were awful,

856
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 9: even back when I was a teenager, we would have

857
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 9: to have these conversations of what's appropriate, what's not appropriate,

858
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 9: and it wasn't until she was actually dying she stopped

859
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 9: calling one of my friends who is Chinese, the Asian man,

860
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 9: and start calling him by his name because he would

861
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 9: change your diaper. And then she was like, oh, well,

862
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 9: thank you for coming, Kevin, and I was like, oh, okay,

863
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 9: so now you're but she was dying.

864
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: I was just going on a way to glory. Here's

865
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: our way. Yeah.

866
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Speaker 10: Also, where I live is predominantly Hispanic.

867
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 9: My hope though, is always that people can't understand what

868
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 9: is happening because where I lived, it used to be

869
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 9: blue and it turned red.

870
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 10: It's ninety five percent Latin people. Where I live ninety percent.

871
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 9: And to see this whole city boat for Trump, I

872
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 9: was shocked. I was shocked. And now as this is

873
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 9: going along and he's kidnapping people from our little city.

874
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 9: Victor and I actually went to a political thing like

875
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 9: two weeks ago, and in there everyone was applauding Trump

876
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 9: at this event, and Victor and I were the outcast

877
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 9: because we were like, y'all are crazy, what are you applauding?

878
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 9: He's kidnappy people. But to see all of these brown

879
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 9: people say, no, he's only kidnapping.

880
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 10: The criminals I'm like, are you serious?

881
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 9: Where we live, they're going to construction sites every day

882
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 9: and they're taking the whole crew, the whole construction crew.

883
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 9: So nothing but criminals going to work every day a

884
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 9: construction site.

885
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: No.

886
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: This is the argument that they keep saying that I

887
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: hear is if you were here, or you do things

888
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: the right way. I don't know if you ever heard

889
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: the right way argument. Okay, here in California, I don't

890
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 3: know where. Maybe they don't do it any other place,

891
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: but they were showing up at the courthouses where people

892
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 3: were going in the right way for court dates, quarter

893
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: appointed tasks, and duties, and they were going there doing

894
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: it the right way and still getting snatched and put

895
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: of their families.

896
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: How do they explain that, because.

897
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: You know, everyone claimed that these criminals, but these people

898
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: are going in on the correct legal pretenses. That's not

899
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: get there running around here like the MS thirteen or

900
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: five year old MS thirteen sell eliminade and then all

901
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: of a sudden they're being arrested.

902
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: That's not what's happening.

903
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: That's why I always here and I'm like, how could

904
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: you justify that? This is what you guys claim that

905
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be doing and they're getting snatched.

906
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 10: Well, so I went to court today because we do.

907
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 9: I do the recordings down here, Yeah, I do make

908
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 9: the recordings public. And what I hear is, oh, it's

909
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 9: not happening here. I'm like, I just recorded somebody kidnapping.

910
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 9: It's happening here.

911
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or what happened recently in Chicago. And for

912
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: those that don't know, that would happened in Chicago in

913
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 3: the middle of the night around twelve they had black

914
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: Hawk helicopters descend it in the black section of town

915
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: and repel down do explosive gas predades and with zip

916
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: tying naked children and zip tying families that had nothing

917
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: to do with immigration at all. They just said to

918
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: take three hundred people but ended up I think arresting

919
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: like thirty something people or whatever. And they wasn't just

920
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: looking for ice illegal immigrants. They were on a witch

921
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: hunt to go in and as aggressively as possible make

922
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: it sound like it's like a black Hawk down. It

923
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: warranted such a vociferous response from the mayor and onlookers

924
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: because I don't know about you, like usually when it's

925
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: like twelve or something like at night. I'm usually trying

926
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: to power one down or I'm getting ready to you know,

927
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: because I do I'm a night out, get my movie

928
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: selection together, or what I'm going to be watching, and

929
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: you know, everyone's really trying to taper down. But to

930
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: imagine that going on in the middle of the night,

931
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: hearing these explosions, people kicking indoors and causing such of

932
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: such disquiet among the community, I don't know how they

933
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: can reconcile that, because that's more than just you know

934
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: the intensity of criminal illegal immigrants. It's like there's something

935
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: else that's driving this or like provoking.

936
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 10: It's terrorizing black people and brown people.

937
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

938
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. So my other thing.

939
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 9: Is whenever I do hear black people say, oh, it's

940
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 9: only the Mexicans, and it's like no, no, no, no.

941
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: So I can tell you Chicago. It was deliberately.

942
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: I'm I'm born and raised in Chicago, and I know

943
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: the area is so the South Side is majority black people.

944
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: So they were the argument they flying with me because

945
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: and there were a lot of the black people argument

946
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: like dude, we're just sitting in house or we're just

947
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: getting ready to go to bed, and you know, you

948
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: got kids, you know, having them up that later or

949
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: and things like that got kids screaming and throwing all

950
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: that tear gas. Though it's just made it sound like

951
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: the whole community. And that's again the similarity, like how

952
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: they do with unther housed people and have a group

953
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: of people to make it sound like at any moment

954
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: that they're going to attack ice workers and they're not

955
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: even thinking about them.

956
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: They're sitting out.

957
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: You know, you know that these people are everyday citizens,

958
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: are working hard and minding their own business and just

959
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: wish to be left alone. But yet you project that

960
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: narrative that this is a war torn country or there's

961
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: a war cun city that you know, we act like

962
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: we're in the days of Matt Max.

963
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: And I'm telling my age.

964
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: But the original Matt Max where they had the Thunderdome

965
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: with Tina Turner and the Mel Gibson, that kind of

966
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: dystopian look that they try to pay doubt to be.

967
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 9: So yeah, So I do watch these interviews and I

968
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 9: never understand whatever a MAGA reporter agrees with him about

969
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 9: how it's now safer in DC's safer in Portland. I'm like,

970
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 9: what do y'all? You just want the streets stript of

971
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 9: people if it's only Maga people. And then but the

972
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 9: thing is, even if it was only Maga people, someplace

973
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 9: in that group, there's gonna be the underdog. There's gonna

974
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 9: be somebody all Maga people pick on and say, oh,

975
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 9: we don't want you here, You're wrong. It's never ending.

976
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 9: When you have that type of hate, You're always gonna

977
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 9: find somebody who you think you're better than. Yeah, And

978
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 9: that's like what's happening now. And it hurts to see

979
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 9: anybody black, brown, white, yellow, whatever agree with what's happening

980
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 9: because he is just literally terrorizing people. That's it. And

981
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 9: he's starting with brown, moved over to black. He will

982
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 9: keep going down the line. He'll eventually make it to

983
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 9: white people.

984
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: Well, but he was on the South Korea and the

985
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: Koreans at the height. I don't even remember in Georgia

986
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: where uh, the George all of them were. They were

987
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: not illegal aliens, So let's pook that on the record.

988
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: They were not criminals, they were not MS thirteen. They

989
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: were not running around jumping out at your families at

990
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: any opportunity. They were in a factory, working, minding their business,

991
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: contributing to society. Trying to help the society, and this

992
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: is how we treated them.

993
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: And so that's the message.

994
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 3: And even after all of that that's been expressed, there's

995
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 3: still people like that father from necessary conversation that looked

996
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: on gleefully excited that these were people were being attacked

997
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: and and and it brings joy to him to see

998
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: other people hurt people. It's like there is a psychopathy

999
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: there that I just cannot reconcile, Like, why would you

1000
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: be okay harming people? What glee? What joy did you

1001
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 3: get out of that? Because that shows you don't realize

1002
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: how harmful is until it.

1003
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: Happens to you.

1004
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 9: So I agree with you.

1005
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been, like I said, this has been such

1006
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: a worldwiod turn of events here, and I just wanted

1007
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 3: to know what do you see yourself at the Sidewalk

1008
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: School doing to maintaining or getting to keeping the word, going,

1009
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: going to fires, going with your organization.

1010
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 9: So we're going to continue recording people's disappearances by I

1011
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 9: like Victor's now running for office okay here where we live,

1012
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 9: thirty fourth District. We are definitely going to continue to

1013
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 9: work to help people and hopefully bring people together. The

1014
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 9: Sidewalk School in some form will always go on. That's

1015
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 9: a definite that Victor and I agreed on a long

1016
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 9: time ago. We believe in hope, we've believed in kindness

1017
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 9: and having an open mind and just listening to somebody

1018
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 9: else to see, you know what I mean. It will

1019
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 9: continue on the sidewalk school will definitely continue on, but

1020
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 9: probably here the way things are going the US side,

1021
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 9: because I do believe the unhoused population is going to

1022
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 9: skyrocket within the next year. I do think that, and

1023
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 9: people are going to need help and how do you

1024
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 9: get resources and all that other stuff, and we will

1025
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 9: be here to help them.

1026
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds like you know a plan? Do you

1027
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: have any plans for let's say, for examples, because I know,

1028
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 3: even as I was an unhoused member myself, people that

1029
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 3: blame other community vulnerable communities instead of understanding the reality

1030
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: that the one percent of the transgender or LGTDI community

1031
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: is not the reason why you're unhoused.

1032
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Are there?

1033
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: It is going to be any literature or is there

1034
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: going to be any way of trying to create a

1035
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 3: program to start to educate people to the realities of

1036
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 3: what their situation is. Because it's easy to blame someone

1037
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: that you can see every day because it makes you

1038
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: feel better shifting the blame instead of shifting the blame

1039
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 3: on the ignoramus that's in the White House of sixty

1040
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: hundred Pennsylvania.

1041
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 9: But you know, so that's a that's an interesting thought

1042
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 9: because on the Mexico side, we actually had housing for

1043
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 9: the LGBTQ community because they did have a hard time

1044
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 9: inside the encampments, so we did have to rent airbnbs

1045
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 9: so they could be safe. Here on the US side,

1046
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 9: I mean, that's a very interesting idea. Vict and I

1047
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 9: would definitely talk about it because yes, it's still needed,

1048
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 9: and it's still like today when they were talking about

1049
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 9: transgender people and they wanted to impeach the judge because

1050
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 9: she called the woman by her pronoun She is a woman,

1051
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 9: but biologically she was born a man, and Cruz wanted

1052
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 9: to impeach the judge because the judge used her correct pronouns.

1053
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 9: When I saw that, I was like, that's I mean,

1054
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 9: what do you care? Like, why does that bother your

1055
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 9: life in your world?

1056
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: That's the point.

1057
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 3: It's like, the point is the focus on the nebulus

1058
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: or the irrelevant in order for someone to feel good

1059
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: and like you know, in our communities, particularly sometimes in

1060
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: the black community. I take exception two is the negating

1061
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: or the insulting of the community and using the Bible,

1062
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: which is another the Christian nationalism movement. Is that something

1063
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: that we didn't really talk on, but that charish, judgmental

1064
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: thing that it flows through many of the Christian nationalists

1065
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 3: and they use it to justify their hatred and then

1066
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 3: cover it up with you know, hate to sin, belove

1067
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: the center. But that's very hard to distinguish when you

1068
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 3: say hurtful things.

1069
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 9: So yeah, but when you listen to them talk, because

1070
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 9: my thing is, what do you so, what is the problem?

1071
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 9: And the stuff that they name has nothing to do

1072
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 9: with you, sir m'am nothing to do with you exactly.

1073
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 9: So why are you, I mean, why are you like

1074
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 9: dragging this on? And I feel as that people were

1075
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 9: really paying attention to the reasoning they have for this

1076
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 9: hatred of people the LGBT community. You would hear, oh,

1077
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 9: this is dumb, This has nothing to do with anything.

1078
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 9: I have a whole thing about the US and how

1079
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 9: the ideas we put up on each other that you

1080
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 9: know that have been going on one hundreds of years now,

1081
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 9: But it's really easy for people to stay inside their

1082
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 9: comfort zone, especially if you're white, because you're privileged. So

1083
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 9: why would you why would you want to listen to

1084
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 9: me and what you know my life and how I

1085
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 9: view things. You have no reason to do that, and

1086
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 9: our society does not push other Americans to do that.

1087
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 10: It's very you worry about you.

1088
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 9: You get to the top by yourself, whereas in other

1089
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 9: countries they've worked together as groups, they help each other.

1090
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 9: I've seen it now on the Mexico side, with different cultures.

1091
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 9: It's very different from the American culture. Victor and I

1092
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 9: are usually like the outcast because we're like, well, why

1093
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 9: do can't we just do this?

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Speaker 10: And it took me time to learn that's American culture.

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Speaker 9: Other cultures you help each other, you're there for each other,

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Speaker 9: you watch each other's kids. Our culture is very different,

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Speaker 9: and it worries me that other Americans won't see that

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Speaker 9: before it's too late, Like step outside of your comfort zone.

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Speaker 9: You will be surprised, but it's a pleasant surprise. It's

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Speaker 9: a really good thing when you do that. And you

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Speaker 9: may not agree in the end, that's fine too, but

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Speaker 9: at least you got to give it a chance. Instead

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Speaker 9: of no, it's just this way and it's not just

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Speaker 9: not just one way.

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Speaker 1: Very true.

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Speaker 3: Well, it looks like the time is flown with this interview,

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Speaker 3: and I really enjoyed talking with you. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: have to invite you back here and they get to

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Speaker 3: continue on to maybe do a panel with a couple

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Speaker 3: other thinkers that are dealing with houselessness and intersecting ways.

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Speaker 3: And I want to thank our listeners for taking the

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Speaker 3: time and patience to really open their mind, expand their outlook,

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Speaker 3: and also to the support that I've been getting with

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Speaker 3: me voting on the Signal Award the Listener's Choice, and

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Speaker 3: I want to thank the people that voted, and I

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Speaker 3: wanted to thank the listeners that have been listening to

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Speaker 3: me from the beginning when I lived on the streets

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Speaker 3: and was doing this show on the phone to now

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Speaker 3: working partnership with iHeart. Also, we're coming up on the

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Speaker 3: end of the first season and I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: start on the second season. I've got renewed and I

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Speaker 3: want to express that good news as well, and let's

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Speaker 3: make sure we thank Milicia for coming in and talking

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Speaker 3: with us as well.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Bye THEO.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much to Felicia for her

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Speaker 3: time and insight. You can learn more about her work

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Speaker 3: with the Sidewalk School and follow her on Instagram at

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Speaker 3: the links in the description, and thank you for listening in.

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Speaker 3: If you have a story you like to share, please

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Speaker 3: reach out to me at Weedianhouse at gmail dot com

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Speaker 3: or whedian House on Instagram. Our tails end for the

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Speaker 3: fiftieth time with iHeart May we again meet in the.

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Speaker 1: Light of us A step Willian Howes is a production

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Speaker 1: of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 3: It is written, hosted, and created by me Theo Henderson,

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Speaker 3: our producers Jamie Loftus, Haille Fager, Katie Fischer, and Lyra Smith.

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Speaker 3: Our editor is Adam Wand, our engineer is Joe Jerome,

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Speaker 3: and our local art is also by Katie Fisher. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for listening.