1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: If you would like to have us answer your questions. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: If you have a terrible job, a terrible boyfriend, or 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: a terrible throatfle. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: Guess what you've got decisions, You've got decisions. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back, y'all, Happy hump Day or whatever day you're 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: listening to one of my favorites. I really actually rejected 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: this segment. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: I was like, well, we. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: Already have home mail, but now that I know your lives, 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: this home mail, I know. 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I 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: ain't even gonna ho yeah I need Oh well, we 18 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: all have them. 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: I have an update from did we talk about on 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: YGD my friend that was going through a breakup and 21 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: I had to help her. 22 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Move, or that I was Patreon that's page Oh. 23 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Well, y'all, I would give y'all that tea on Patreon. 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: Y'all got to go and check out this week's episode 25 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: because I definitely did some feeling on that that was Hey. 26 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: Honie, Okay, yeah, we gotta we gotta, we gotta hear 27 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: that what I do like And how we're gonna start 28 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 3: this episode this week though? Is I love y'all sending 29 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: us these appreciation emails, and so I want to start 30 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 3: off by that because the last one had me crying, 31 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: but I was on my period. 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This 94 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: one is asking for advice on learning to trust again, 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: as they provided background, Hi. 96 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Mandy and Weezy. Sorry this is long. 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm writing this in hopes that you guys maybe I 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: have some advice for me. So for background, I'm twenty 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: six years old, I live in Atlanta, and I lost 100 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: my virginity at twenty two. I had never even kissed 101 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: a guyun ttil earlier that year. Growing up, I was 102 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: very sheltered and hadn't had a lot of opportunities to 103 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: become experienced. I'm a longtime listener, so trust me, I 104 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: had the urges, just not the right chances. The guy 105 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: I lost my virginity too, was great. He understood my 106 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: goal was to lose the infamous be card, did it 107 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: the first time and never did it again. This isn't 108 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: about him, It's about the guy after him. We met 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: at work and I was maybe twenty one or twenty 110 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: two at the time, and he was forty one, working 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: the same job, same position, big red flag. He pursued 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: me for months spending money on me, offering to help me, 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: showing me attention I had never experienced before, so I 114 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: fell for it after months of fighting it. The sexual 115 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: attension could be felt in the room, and I saw. 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Him as an opportunity to have some. 117 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: Fun and experience of things I had only played out 118 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: in my mind. I was blinded by lust girl. He 119 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: was where I really started to explore what sex could be. 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: I naively trusted him with my body and my health, 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: and he ended up giving me herpees. I was very careful, 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 3: but there was some slips. I didn't find out until 123 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: a year later, and I hadn't been with anyone else. 124 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: We had ended it by then, but to say I 125 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 3: was devastated is an understatement. My trust was broken because 126 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: he knew he had it. 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: And didn't tell me. 128 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: Knew he knew he had it and didn't tell and 129 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: didn't tell her. Ooh, bitch, with this, here we go. 130 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: My heart was broken because I thought I loved him. 131 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: The delusion got me, and I was scared of what 132 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: this meant for my future. It took me a long 133 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: time to open up, and I'm still afraid of trusting 134 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: men sexually. I started dating someone else casually maybe two 135 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: years after. I didn't want anything. He was just very persistent, 136 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: so I gave him a trice chance. We never had sex, 137 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: just fooled around, and I never intended on having sex 138 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: with him, just wanted to be around a man. I 139 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: didn't want to do anything until I told him about 140 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: the HSB we were playing I'm curious to. 141 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: Know, Oh, come on, shout out cocktails. 142 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: When the question came up about STDs, I didn't tell 143 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: him in that moment because I never intended on having 144 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: sex with him, and I was scared of the judgment 145 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: that would come with it, which is why we didn't 146 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: go all the way. A few days after, I felt 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: so bad, I called him over and I told him. 148 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: He called me a liar and told me he was 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: disgusted by the way. I've never had an outbreak. This 150 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: was about nine months ago and I haven't been with 151 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: anyone since, and I recently here he's been. 152 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Telling people about me and what happened. 153 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: How do I navigate dating when trust was broken for 154 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: me really early and I haven't had a lot of. 155 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Positive experiences since. 156 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: Scared to trust and I'm scared no one will want 157 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: me the same way. It's like I was tainted before 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: I ever got the chance. I've also told no one 159 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: about my diagnosis except for him. My friends and family 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: are always asking what am I going to get serious 161 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: and bring someone home? I really don't date. I'm scared 162 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: to be vulnerable again. Hopefully you can help. Sincerely, a 163 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: lonely lover girl. 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm about to give you this advice based off 165 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: of something that is actually currently happening in my life 166 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: as a friend of mine who realized she had HSV 167 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: during her pregnancy, and it was so fucking sad, Okay, 168 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: and she was like really going through it because she 169 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: basically figured out she had she had getten tested a 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: few months before pregnancy in her relationship and then figured 171 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: out she had HSV during the pregnancy, and so that 172 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: just already led to issues with trust, being emotional. She 173 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: joined a support group in New York, and there's one 174 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: in each city. But also, you need guidance on how 175 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: to tell somebody you have hs There's a national STD hotline. 176 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: It's eight hundred two two seven eight nine to two 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: to two. It's twenty four hours a day, all day. Okay, 178 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: you can get on that line and basically role play 179 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: with the person. Oh wow, on how you tell somebody 180 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 2: what you have, on how to have better language around transmission, 181 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: about your own safety, like, hey, if you have sex 182 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: with me, XYZ won't happen. Like I feel so bad 183 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: for this person because I can't imagine to know you 184 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: fucked somebody that had it and new Day had it 185 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: and just anability. 186 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: So here's the other part that I want to share too, 187 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: because transmission becomes a tricky conversation. 188 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: You said that he slipped up. 189 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: You slipped up a couple times with him, and I 190 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: assume that means that you had sex unprotected. You can 191 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: transfer it skin to skin contact, So if there's any 192 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: sort of like cells even like on his balls or 193 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: something like, if there's anything that's just skin to skin, 194 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: you could literally get it. You can get herpes with 195 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: the use of a condom. Also, something that's really interesting 196 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: and I hope that you have looked into it. There's 197 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: HSB one, there's HSB two. Those are the main ones, 198 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: but there's like eight different forms of HSB. But you 199 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: could get You could have HSB in your fucking armpit, 200 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: little do you know. I don't know, Yes, girl, HSB 201 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: can be in different places. 202 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: On your body where you can get outbreaks. So you 203 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: have to do you have to fuck in the armpit? 204 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh, it's because bro, if it's a skin disease, that's 205 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: where you're out like. So the other thing that's really interesting, 206 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: and what most people don't realize is a rebrand. Guess 207 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: what got a rebrand? HSB one, which is a cold sore. 208 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: And so even though people may feel like, oh, I'm 209 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: just gonna go get some you know, a breva for 210 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: this cold store, if you actually allow someone to give 211 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: you oral sex while there's in their mouth, you could 212 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: then get HSB two because now you've been exposed in 213 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: your vaginal region for that. 214 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: So I think that's the other interesting thing. 215 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: It's a skin disease, there's a rebrand around it with 216 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: HSB one, and everyone just says, oh couldsore. Oh my 217 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: immune system is down. But that's another thing too. With outbreaks, 218 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: a lot of it is tied to your immune system. 219 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: So I would be interested. And it's why I tell everybody, 220 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: if you're gonna go down and suck some dick, you 221 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: better look underneath, look in and around all that thing, 222 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: because an outbreak could be really really small, or it 223 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: can look nasty, like it's really hard to tell. Also, 224 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: one of the things that I suggest you to do 225 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 3: is find someone who is mature. 226 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: And having conversations around sex in general. I think it what. 227 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Could you date somebody? 228 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: But HSD yes you could. 229 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get cold sort so to me, like, bitch, 230 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: my sister had cold stores before she even started fucking 231 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: like people get cold. 232 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: Soors what about HSP too, now bumps on the dick. 233 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm assuming she has HSB too. 234 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: That's what I'm assuming too. 235 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: Now I don't know, because that's not something where I 236 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: want to risk me getting outbreaks. However, it is also 237 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: only transferable during an outbreak. So to me, this kind 238 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: of conversation leads you to be with someone who is 239 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 3: sexually intelligent, emotionally intelligent, and has no fear in communicating 240 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: about what's happening with their bodies. And so for me, bro, 241 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: you know, if you have an outbreak, don't have sex 242 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: while you have an outbreak. 243 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: Like, I don't think herpes is transferable. 244 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,479 Speaker 3: Let me ask my husband, hold on, is herpes transferable 245 00:12:53,520 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 3: without an outbreak? Sorry y'all, because to me, I don't 246 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: want to deal with a bumpy did. But if it's 247 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: something that is like goes undetected or or what's it called, Like, 248 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: what's it called? When it doesn't like flare up, when 249 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: it's just dormant. If it's something that's dormant and you're 250 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: not getting constant outbreaks, then I don't think anything's wrong 251 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: with it. 252 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: So, I mean, there's there's a thing like that I've 253 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: been realizing to women that have HPV and it's churning 254 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: up as genital words. 255 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 3: Like okay, by the way, oh, I didn't want to 256 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: add this real quick, So it can be transmitted, but 257 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: the risk is much lower when there isn't an outbreak, 258 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: and that's because of asymptomatic shedding, so presence of it 259 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: being in the skin, so it can be present on 260 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: the skin or the mucosa without causing sores. During this time, 261 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: it can still spread through skin to skin contact. 262 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: Bro. 263 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: I feel like, bro, if you go to a goddamn 264 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: diner and your server got goddamn and you should, I mean. 265 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: That's not necessary too. But you can get herpes through condoms, 266 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: Like that's the. 267 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: One you can't get. You can't get them through condoms. 268 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: You can't. Right, I'm not gonna front. 269 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: I know how you feel because I'm here to say, 270 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: and I don't want to make you feel worse. 271 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do it well. Here 272 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: is some reassurance. 273 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: While heartbeas is very compident, very common, it's often mild, 274 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: and many people who have it don't know they have it, 275 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: but transmiss transmission risk is manageable, and many couples with 276 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: one HSB positive partner can never transmit it to the other. 277 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: It's possible that you could have. 278 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: It and not transmit it to your partner, and I 279 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: think that that's just going to take again the maturity 280 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: of having conversations around it and making sure you're following 281 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: whatever steps you need to. 282 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: That's great news too. 283 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: The person that I know that recently contracted HSP, who's 284 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: still pregnant, told me that she had absolutely seen no signs. 285 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: She's been sleeping with the same partner for two years 286 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: and to this day does not see any kind of 287 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: words or signs of HSV. So there were even moments 288 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: where he was like, oh, maybe you fucking around, because 289 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: she had it and he didn't. So I think it 290 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: just comes down to being able to manage and know 291 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: your own body's symptoms at so most of the times 292 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: when people are, you know, getting an outbreak or a reaction. 293 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: They can feel it. 294 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: They can feel it being it. 295 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: Literally says that here it says that you want to 296 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: avoid contact during warning signs. So warning signs, and maybe 297 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: since you're new to this, maybe you're unaware. Warning signs 298 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: include tingling, itching, and pain. So even if there's no sores, 299 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: if you have a little tingly itch and sensation, it 300 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: could be, you know, a sign that you're about to 301 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: have an outbreak. 302 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: Also, I think again it's important to know. 303 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: That there are anti daily anti viral medications that you 304 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: can take that significantly lower viral shutting. 305 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: So again, there's medicine that you could take. I hate 306 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: that you. 307 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: Feel like you're like trash now, like that no one's 308 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: gonna want you, because that's just not that's that's just 309 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: not true. And I think they said, like eighty percent 310 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: of the fucking global population has some form of heartpees, 311 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: so maybe just find a nigga who gets it in 312 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: his armpits. 313 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: Girl, I don't know what the advice was. Good, do 314 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: you on need to find another nigga? 315 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: I mean you could no, why not two people with 316 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: herpes should maybe be together. 317 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the arms pit pit specific, but look 318 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: up the support roots whenever you're feeling down, because they're 319 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: gonna literally like my hunggirl was like, bitch, they're and 320 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: they're showing off their kids, their family, celebrating living life, 321 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: and I'm fucking worried about myself right now. So I 322 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: think it's really just figuring out, like once you anybody 323 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: with any kind of infection or yeah, something that's incurable, 324 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: they need to know life goes on. 325 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: That their support life goes on. 326 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: And if you want to go all the way back 327 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: to our first year of having horrible decisions, we had 328 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: a girl come on and talk about sharing and being 329 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: open about her herpes diagnosis, and she was really just 330 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: open about living with it. I think she talked about 331 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 3: how she communicated with her partners. Listening to maybe that 332 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 3: episode I think would really help you quite a bit. 333 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: So I hope that you I hope that you know 334 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: that you are love, You're deserving it. 335 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: Love and harpies ain't gonna stop it. There's a lot 336 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: of niggas that will still fuck through the herpes. 337 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: Believe an ATHM fucked to and you are okay, you are. 338 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that this man did that, and I do 339 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: have faith that you will find trust in a partner 340 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: where you can be open and they can be you know, open. 341 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: With you agreed. 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