Speaker 1: You experienced life. You experience the part of life you
Speaker 1: focus on right. What's wrong is always available, so it's
Speaker 1: what's right right, And they're different kinds of focus. And
Speaker 1: my dad's focus that day was really on what he
Speaker 1: hadn't done. And I know that because he kept muttering
Speaker 1: it and I hadn't take care of his family. There's
Speaker 1: no funny for Thanksgiving. Somebody had to give us charity.
Speaker 1: And then the second decision you make about once you
Speaker 1: focus on something is what does it mean? Hey? Everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome back to our Purpose, the number one health podcast
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Speaker 1: guest is someone that I've wanted to sit down with
Speaker 1: ever since I was a very young boy, and it's
Speaker 1: extremely special to me to have this opportunity. I grew
Speaker 1: up in a home where I was surrounded by his books,
Speaker 1: his cassettes, his CDs. My father would be diving into them,
Speaker 1: playing them in the car wherever he possibly could, And
Speaker 1: I was surrounded by this man's wisdom and it had
Speaker 1: an impact on me both internally, externally and in so
Speaker 1: many ways. And today I've had the great fortune of
Speaker 1: sitting with him for this podcast and this interview. I'm
Speaker 1: speaking about a man who needs no introduction that its
Speaker 1: recently the number one New York Times selling author of
Speaker 1: this book, Life Force, the one and only Tony Robins. Tony,
Speaker 1: I am so honored, humbold and grateful to be in
Speaker 1: your present, to be in your home. You've opened up
Speaker 1: your home today this is the first time we brought
Speaker 1: on purpose out into the wild for a guest to
Speaker 1: be with you. But we're in your beautiful home that
Speaker 1: you've graciously and Sage was just an amazing host and
Speaker 1: welcome me so beautifully. And I want everyone to know
Speaker 1: also that I came here expecting that we were going
Speaker 1: to do a podcast. Tony, of course, is one of
Speaker 1: the busiest humans on the planet. We just sat down
Speaker 1: and we spent nearly an hour together just connecting and
Speaker 1: talking because of his kindness and generosity, and I want
Speaker 1: people to know to hear more about it. So it's
Speaker 1: gorgeous what you're doing here. So thanks you having me on. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. So this conversation is
Speaker 1: a long time coming from the work that you've been doing.
Speaker 1: The journey of this book doesn't start when you started
Speaker 1: writing this book. The journey of this book for you
Speaker 1: became something that you got focused on a long long
Speaker 1: time ago. Yeah. True, And I wanted to focus on
Speaker 1: one point to give people this context. You know, you're
Speaker 1: seen as someone who's superhuman. You're able to do incredible
Speaker 1: things on stage, off stage, you have a phenomenal physical, mental,
Speaker 1: psychological presence, of a beautiful spiritual presence. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you talk about in this book being thirty
Speaker 1: one years old and finding out about this brain tumor. Yes,
Speaker 1: I want to hear about what that feels like when
Speaker 1: you think you're doing everything right for your health. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it hasn't been a point of concern, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you get this news. How does that feel? Well,
Speaker 1: it was scary, obviously. Actually it started a little singer
Speaker 1: than that. When I was really young. I grew up
Speaker 1: really rapidly. I've worked twenty hour days, and I was
Speaker 1: also blessed, and I got to work with some very
Speaker 1: important people and I got great results and they told
Speaker 1: other people. So at the time I was nineteen, just
Speaker 1: almost twenty, I had become quite successful in external terms,
Speaker 1: at least in the world. And some part of me was,
Speaker 1: you know, the kind of the mechanism in the back
Speaker 1: of our had that two million year old brain, right,
Speaker 1: the fight or flight mechanism. I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: manage that so well. And part of my brain was like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you'll have all this happening so quick because you're
Speaker 1: going to die young. And I literally became obsessed with
Speaker 1: not just getting hit by a truck or something. It
Speaker 1: was cancer. I was gonna whilt away. And I I don't
Speaker 1: know where it came from, and I knew better intellectually,
Speaker 1: but it was there. And then the first time entered
Speaker 1: my life was before thirty one, enter my life through
Speaker 1: someone else, my girlfriend, and she came home crying uncontrollably,
Speaker 1: and Jay, I mean, she was like, like, what is it?
Speaker 1: What is it? My mom? My mom? And my mom
Speaker 1: asked cancer, and then even worse, they gave her nine
Speaker 1: weeks to live. They just sent her home. And I
Speaker 1: think if it would have been me, I think my
Speaker 1: fear would have overcome me. But you know, most people
Speaker 1: will do more for people they love, whether it be
Speaker 1: their kids or their friendly or someone else ton loop
Speaker 1: or do for themselves. And so it's like I kicked
Speaker 1: into gear. That's what I do. It's like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: there's a problem, there's a solution. I said, Look, there's
Speaker 1: thousands of people that had stage four cancer and that
Speaker 1: are alive today. We're gonna find out what they do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the same thing that she's not gonna die.
Speaker 1: And then I just read every book I could on cancer,
Speaker 1: and I came across this one book called One Answer
Speaker 1: to Cancer. It's not the book i'd recommend today because
Speaker 1: there's so many better ones today, but it was written
Speaker 1: by this dentist who had pancreatic cancer, which is the
Speaker 1: most vicious cancer of all. He was given six weeks
Speaker 1: to live and this is twelve years later and he's alive,
Speaker 1: and so he laid out what he did to cleanse
Speaker 1: his body, and it sounded radical in those days. Pancreatic endsigns.
Speaker 1: So I went to this woman name was Jenny. She
Speaker 1: was in her forties, and I said, Jenny, you know,
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to die. I said, but
Speaker 1: just going home and do nothing. Why don't you read
Speaker 1: this book This guy was in worse shape than you
Speaker 1: and see if you wanted to apply this. And she
Speaker 1: read it and she got inspired, and I gave her,
Speaker 1: as a man thinketh to kind of work on her
Speaker 1: head a little bit. Anyway, long story short with it.
Speaker 1: About three weeks you could she had a tumor that
Speaker 1: was protruding in her shoulder and the one in her
Speaker 1: feminine organs, and you couldn't see anything. Three weeks later
Speaker 1: on her shoulder and at the period of I think
Speaker 1: about nine weeks when he was supposed to die, and
Speaker 1: she looked good. She had great energy, and I literally
Speaker 1: looked transformed the fan. He said, this is crazy, like,
Speaker 1: let's do exploratory surgery. So they went in her body
Speaker 1: and all they could find left of the cancer with
Speaker 1: something the size of my pinky's fingernail. And so the
Speaker 1: doctor said, this is a miracle, and she said it
Speaker 1: is a miracle, but let me tell you what I did.
Speaker 1: And he was like, no, no, no, this is spontaneous remission.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear what you did. Well you did,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But she's in her mid eighties today
Speaker 1: she's still alive. And that shifted me from victimhood like
Speaker 1: oh my god, cancer could strike me down to believe it.
Speaker 1: I'll be great, So all the more shocking. Now I'm
Speaker 1: a total biohacker. I'm a health mat. I've got to
Speaker 1: get on stage and do you know, twelve thirteen hours
Speaker 1: with twenty thousand people, and I got to do the
Speaker 1: three or four days in a row, and I make
Speaker 1: these huge demands, but I also have this incredibly intense
Speaker 1: regiment and take care of myself. And then I went,
Speaker 1: I'm a helicopter pilot. So I went to go get
Speaker 1: my license renewed. You have to do a physical. And
Speaker 1: I come back and I keep getting his messages from
Speaker 1: the doctors saying my assistant saying, doctor says, got to
Speaker 1: talk to you. And I was like, I'm leaving for
Speaker 1: the South of France to an event. Tell him to
Speaker 1: just send the report. And I got home this one
Speaker 1: night and tape to my bat and my master bathroom
Speaker 1: bedroom door was a note from my assistant saying, You've
Speaker 1: got to call the doctor. He says, it's an emergency.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? What do you feel? Like? Well,
Speaker 1: all my old fears just started flashing back. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I mean, I treat my body's so great.
Speaker 1: How could I have cancer? But I do fly all
Speaker 1: the time. That's radiation. You know, your head goes crazy,
Speaker 1: at least mine did. Yeah. But but at that time
Speaker 1: I had also found a center in my life, and
Speaker 1: so I found my center. It's like, Okay, crageous person,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, coward dies a thousand deaths. Grageous
Speaker 1: person wants let me deal with it if it needs
Speaker 1: to be dealt with. In the morning, I woke up
Speaker 1: called how The doc says to me, you have a tumor,
Speaker 1: a tumor in your brain. I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about. I came to you, I'm totally healthy.
Speaker 1: I'm healthy as a horse. And he said, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: He said, you have an enormous amount of growth hormones.
Speaker 1: So I did some tests. I said, you know, how'd
Speaker 1: you notice the growth hormone? My hands are bigger than
Speaker 1: your head. I wear a Site sixteen shoe. I was
Speaker 1: five to one. I'm sixty seven and you know I
Speaker 1: grew ten inches in a year. And he goes, no,
Speaker 1: don't be funny. He goes, you're gonna need to hear me.
Speaker 1: This is serious. And he said, you really need to
Speaker 1: do this, and we'll do what you got to come
Speaker 1: in for surgery. I was like, wait a second. I said,
Speaker 1: you're telling me you're gonna cut me open. I said,
Speaker 1: what's the prognosis. He said, well, obviously you can die,
Speaker 1: you know any time you do a surgery that's this complex.
Speaker 1: But he said, at your pituitary gland and he said
Speaker 1: he said that, you know, you're probably not going to
Speaker 1: have the same kind of energy at anymore because it'll
Speaker 1: change your biochemistry, and I was like, well, I think
Speaker 1: I should get a second opinion. Who would you recommend?
Speaker 1: And he did not have a good bedside matter and
Speaker 1: I didn't have a good side beside matter either. I
Speaker 1: was a young punk kids, like, well, how you telling
Speaker 1: me I'm gonna have to do the surgery? So I
Speaker 1: kind of blowed off since he was such a jerk
Speaker 1: about it, was like, I'll take care of when I
Speaker 1: get home. And I flew to the south of France
Speaker 1: and I did this seminar. But then you know, the mind,
Speaker 1: you know, the mind starts going like what if he's right?
Speaker 1: What if is this? So I went and did the
Speaker 1: scan and I saw the look on the guy's face.
Speaker 1: So when I came out from an MRI and sure
Speaker 1: enough I had a tumor there. It was interesting though, Jay,
Speaker 1: it was a big tumor. That's why I drew ten
Speaker 1: inches in a year, but in farked, which means it
Speaker 1: swallowed a portion of itself up but was still there.
Speaker 1: And he said, we still need to do the surgery.
Speaker 1: So I went and did. I said, okay, he's a surgeon,
Speaker 1: let me go to somebody who's a little biochemically driven.
Speaker 1: So I went to this man in Boston and neurobiologist,
Speaker 1: and he was really completely a different He was super
Speaker 1: warm and he said, look, he goes, I would never
Speaker 1: do the surgery. It's way too risky. There's a place
Speaker 1: in Switzerland you can go too, and you can take
Speaker 1: an injection once every six months and you'll never have
Speaker 1: to worry about it because what they worry about as
Speaker 1: a gigantism. It's called and make your arteries get really
Speaker 1: big and then you have a heart attack. And I said,
Speaker 1: but doc, you just said my arteries are perfect, and
Speaker 1: this happened twelve years ago. I said, why would I
Speaker 1: do anything? He goes, well, we just want to be certain.
Speaker 1: I said, well what if? What if I'm not certain?
Speaker 1: The drugs are not gonna have side effects? You know?
Speaker 1: He goes, well, it will really make you tired all
Speaker 1: the time. I was like tired all the time, said
Speaker 1: it my whole life. I said, I'm energy is a
Speaker 1: source of everything for me. And he's like, oh, you're afraid.
Speaker 1: You're like Samson, You're figuring to cut your hair. And
Speaker 1: I said, you're damn right, I am, you know, but
Speaker 1: he was so cool. I said, but you know, the
Speaker 1: surgeon wants to cut, and he goes, yeah, the baker
Speaker 1: wants to bake. He's the butcher wants to put you,
Speaker 1: and the surgeon wants to cut and I want to
Speaker 1: drug you. He was really cool, and I said, what
Speaker 1: if I did nothing? He goes, but I measured it
Speaker 1: like I'm not stupid. I go measure it once a
Speaker 1: year or something. Goes, Wow, you could do that, And
Speaker 1: thank god I did, jay because six months later the
Speaker 1: FDA I was having to go to Switzerland because it
Speaker 1: wasn't available in the US and the FDA never lotted
Speaker 1: in because they found it created cancer. So I missed
Speaker 1: a bullet. I went to five other docks, so six
Speaker 1: and seven in total. And the last doc told me
Speaker 1: when I wanted to hear, which was Tony, you have
Speaker 1: a huge amount of growth hormone. But he goes you literally,
Speaker 1: do you know I burned eleven thousand, three hundred calories
Speaker 1: in one day on stage. Give you an idea. I
Speaker 1: we've followed me for three years that followed the ONEPIC
Speaker 1: athletes and Tom Brady and people like that, and so
Speaker 1: they've measured everything in my body and he goes, you're
Speaker 1: doing two and a half marathons basically, and calorie bird
Speaker 1: in a day, and you're in four days in a
Speaker 1: row like that. He goes, your ability to recover is insane.
Speaker 1: He said, two or three days you've covered. He goes,
Speaker 1: that's coming from that growth from one I believe, And
Speaker 1: he said, so I know bodybuilders that are spent in
Speaker 1: twelve hundred bucks, you know a month half what you're
Speaker 1: getting for free. So that was when I was thirty one.
Speaker 1: I'm sixty two. I've never had problems since I've measured it.
Speaker 1: But it really changed my outlook. And the first one
Speaker 1: may my outlook look like there is an answer, And
Speaker 1: the second one, my outlook was there's a price for certainty,
Speaker 1: and you got to be very careful of what price
Speaker 1: you pay to be certain. You got to find that
Speaker 1: certainty within yourself, which I know is a lot of
Speaker 1: what you teach and I do as well. Jack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you for walking us through that, and especially going
Speaker 1: back a bit further as well. I think what I
Speaker 1: find fascinating about that turning in a lot of the
Speaker 1: work you do is why does it why do we
Speaker 1: as humans often wait to see, not even seeping. You
Speaker 1: saw pain in someone else, and you try to help
Speaker 1: solve it, and that got you working. Yeah, but why
Speaker 1: is it that we often wait to experience pain before
Speaker 1: we decide to change a part of our lives, make
Speaker 1: a different choice to create a shift. Why is it
Speaker 1: that we wait so often? Stress impression I have That
Speaker 1: question was burning me because you know, I was traveling
Speaker 1: around have the privilege of this stage of life, you know,
Speaker 1: traveling around the earth, people from every walk of life, right,
Speaker 1: one hundred quest countries I've worked in, and I'd see
Speaker 1: the same problems, even though you mean different cultures, like
Speaker 1: you know, going to an Asian culture, it's not about
Speaker 1: the individual, it's about the group, right, But I'd still
Speaker 1: see the same problems. And then I got obsessed with it, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the common human experience? Because I'm seeing the same
Speaker 1: problems even though it's a different culture, even those different beliefs, right.
Speaker 1: And I began to realize that there's certain human needs
Speaker 1: and there are six that identified that I've used ever
Speaker 1: since and it's helped me understand. And so one of
Speaker 1: those needs is certainty, and it's the base human need,
Speaker 1: certainty that you can avoid pain and that you can
Speaker 1: be comfortable as the most basic need. It's a survival
Speaker 1: need because if you have continuous pain, that's continuous damage.
Speaker 1: Continuous damage equals death. Right. But what happens for people
Speaker 1: is most people that first basic need is where they live.
Speaker 1: They don't grow another need. The second need is uncertainty
Speaker 1: because ironically, if you're certain all the time, you're bored
Speaker 1: out of your mind, can really uncertain, kind of freaked out.
Speaker 1: And a balance is not it. It's the ability to
Speaker 1: use both enter both worlds. And then there's the need
Speaker 1: for significance, which is a big part of our culture
Speaker 1: today thanks to social media. That need to feel special, unique, important, right.
Speaker 1: It can be a very positive emotion or need, it
Speaker 1: can be very negative depending on how it's used, how
Speaker 1: it's directed. And then there's the need for connection and love,
Speaker 1: which everybody has, and those four needs everybody finds a
Speaker 1: way to meeting. If you have to lie to yourself,
Speaker 1: work twenty hour days, you're going to find certainty somehow,
Speaker 1: You're going to find wide variety. You're going to find
Speaker 1: some form of significance. Some people do it by tearing
Speaker 1: other people down. Somebody will do it by working harder.
Speaker 1: You know it's different. You're going to find some level
Speaker 1: of at least connection. It's not love. But the final
Speaker 1: two what make people feel alive, which is growing everything
Speaker 1: in the universe grows or dives, and contributing. Everything is
Speaker 1: in the universe contributes or it's eventually eliminated by evolution.
Speaker 1: So those are the spiritual needs. Growth and contribution, where
Speaker 1: you get beyond yourself. And I think that the majority
Speaker 1: of us don't take moves because of fear, and fear
Speaker 1: is just uncertainty. It's that base need. And when I
Speaker 1: go around and I describe this in more detail, and
Speaker 1: I work with a big audience fifteen twenty thousand people,
Speaker 1: and I'll say, how them do a set of exercises
Speaker 1: and have them figure out where do they get what
Speaker 1: triggers them to be certain or uncertain, what triggers them
Speaker 1: have variety and so forth. So I understand that like
Speaker 1: everything I do is to meet these needs. But then
Speaker 1: I got to say, what are your top two? Not
Speaker 1: what you think they should be, not what you want
Speaker 1: them to be, what are they? And nine people in
Speaker 1: our culture are certainty and significance, are significance uncertainty even
Speaker 1: though they really want love, So they have this route,
Speaker 1: Like if I can be successful enough, then I'll be
Speaker 1: worthy of it, or if I can just control that
Speaker 1: enough and know it's that way, but you can't control love, right,
Speaker 1: And so most people are they're trying to meet their
Speaker 1: needs and are kind of a backwards way. And I
Speaker 1: think that that fear, that uncertainty is what keeps the
Speaker 1: most people from growing until they get enough pain, and
Speaker 1: then that pushes them to a threshold where their needs
Speaker 1: aren't being met. They got a change, and unfortunately most
Speaker 1: people wait till they have enough pain. That's not my preference,
Speaker 1: sure if it's not yours, but I'm sure you've had
Speaker 1: experiences as much as I've had where you did have
Speaker 1: to be pushed that far to get there. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm so glad to ask you that question.
Speaker 1: The best answer I've ever had. It's it's simple, but
Speaker 1: it's it's profound as well, because usually we would say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the reason why we wait till we don't have to
Speaker 1: change is because we're comfortable and we're okay with it.
Speaker 1: But really it's because you're saying, these needs keep us trapped.
Speaker 1: Almost In fact, if you're if you're wanting to change
Speaker 1: but not changing, it's because some of your needs are
Speaker 1: met by what you're doing and some of them aren't.
Speaker 1: That's why you're in that push pull. But you don't
Speaker 1: usually do enough until you're pushed over the edge. Like
Speaker 1: smoking a cigarette, Why does it give people comfort? Because
Speaker 1: let's take a breath of cigarette. You take a nice, slow,
Speaker 1: deep breath in and take it out. It calms the
Speaker 1: nervous system, right, It's something that they're comfortable with. It's variety.
Speaker 1: If they're all stressed out and then they start to
Speaker 1: breathe differently, it's variety in the body. For some people,
Speaker 1: they did originally for significance. I'm cool, I'm smoking right today.
Speaker 1: It's not really that cool to most people, but for
Speaker 1: some generations, some places it is. Some people see it
Speaker 1: there's a connection with themselves. But if all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're now in a relation ship with somebody who doesn't smoke,
Speaker 1: and you really love them and you want their total
Speaker 1: love and attention and they're completely disgusted by cigarettes. Now,
Speaker 1: my needs from love, yes, right, are really strong, and
Speaker 1: my need for this comfort is really strong. And sell
Speaker 1: you have this push poll and then some people make
Speaker 1: the chef. Some people don't. Yeah, absolutely well, what you
Speaker 1: said to me really rung a bell for me, and
Speaker 1: we spoke a bit about it earlier. Like I came
Speaker 1: to a point in my life. There was one point
Speaker 1: earlier when I when I left the monastery, where I
Speaker 1: really struggled with my health, which I've spoken about before
Speaker 1: but even more recently. And it's interesting you at thirty one.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty four now, and it was probably around a
Speaker 1: similar time thirty maybe around thirty years old, where I
Speaker 1: realized that I had two choices. I either had to
Speaker 1: slow down or I had to up my focus on
Speaker 1: my health. Right. And that's why I'm so excited about
Speaker 1: this book for the world to read. Yeah, because you're
Speaker 1: giving us opportunities and access to thought and ideas and
Speaker 1: practices and medicine that can help us up our game
Speaker 1: of our health. Often what we do is we choose
Speaker 1: to slow down, we choose to just go, Okay, well
Speaker 1: I'm just going to do less. Yeah. And you and I,
Speaker 1: I think we both connect on the fact that actually
Speaker 1: giving and service and contribution and making an impact on
Speaker 1: such big needs. Yeah, that I was just like I
Speaker 1: don't want to stop though, Like just as you said
Speaker 1: with the energy point, I don't want to not be
Speaker 1: able to do as much and give more, So how
Speaker 1: do I change my health? And that simple decision, it's
Speaker 1: what led me to be attracted to what you're doing
Speaker 1: in this book, in the work in this area, talk
Speaker 1: to a talk to us a bit about that energy piece.
Speaker 1: In the book, you talk a lot about boosting your
Speaker 1: energy through natural compounds. Yes, And when I was reading
Speaker 1: about this, I was fascinated because we're not hearing about
Speaker 1: this everywhere. If somebody would tell you five years ago
Speaker 1: that you could reverse aging, people would laugh at you.
Speaker 1: But today there are billions and billions of dollars being
Speaker 1: spent by the richest people in the world, mostly in
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, and some the greatest scientists in the world
Speaker 1: have been breakthroughs in the last five years that are amazing.
Speaker 1: So there's a man named doctor Sinclair, David Sinclair from Harvard.
Speaker 1: It's probably the number one longevity expert in the world.
Speaker 1: And I write about him in the book and one
Speaker 1: thing says he's fifty three chronologically, but he's thirty three biochemically.
Speaker 1: I've applied what he's taught me for six months now,
Speaker 1: since I met him, seven months maybe eight months now
Speaker 1: and I'm sixty two, but I'm fifty one. My goals
Speaker 1: will get it down to forty one and forty two
Speaker 1: if I possibly can. But you know, how's that possible? Well,
Speaker 1: there are ways of reversing. You know, everybody knows their
Speaker 1: body's made of stem cells, I'm sure by now, And
Speaker 1: there's ways of reversing the process of a stem cell
Speaker 1: literally from skin back to plury polton where it can
Speaker 1: become anything. The man who did that was doctor Yamanaka
Speaker 1: won the Nobel Prize for it. David Sinclair took his
Speaker 1: work applied it to reversing the aging and he started
Speaker 1: with mice and he took these mice that had glucoma,
Speaker 1: so they burned out the nerves in the eyes and
Speaker 1: those don't regrow. And he's the first time. He'll probably
Speaker 1: want a Nobel Prize from this. He reversed the aging
Speaker 1: process and grew back their eyes so they have sight again.
Speaker 1: To give you an idea, they're using gene therapy. There's
Speaker 1: a young man that I interviewed in the book there
Speaker 1: who was on America's Got Talent Blind who now conceived
Speaker 1: by this gene therapy. These are the types of things
Speaker 1: that just sound like magic. The book is filled with things. Right.
Speaker 1: I interviewed one hundred and fifty of the smartest scientists,
Speaker 1: Nobel Laureates, regentitive doctors and scientists to show you what's
Speaker 1: happening right now that you might think what happened twenty
Speaker 1: or thirty years from now it sounds like magic, or
Speaker 1: within thirty six months. That's what it's all really based on.
Speaker 1: But here's what I want your audience to understand or
Speaker 1: run energy. So everybody's heard of the genome or their DNA, right.
Speaker 1: You can think of the genome as being like the
Speaker 1: piano keys, but the music is played by a player,
Speaker 1: which is the epigenome. EPI means above. And the epigenome
Speaker 1: is affected by your diet, your exercise, how much exposure
Speaker 1: to radiation, etc. Well most people have heard that, But
Speaker 1: the epigenome really is governed by seven master genes that
Speaker 1: are called curtuans. Now your audience ys have to remember
Speaker 1: all these names, but just stay with me. Just think
Speaker 1: there's seven master genes that do three or four things
Speaker 1: that are critical. First, they convert, they turn on and
Speaker 1: off the different genes in your body. That's the epigenome
Speaker 1: and you turn on the wrong ones, you age too soon,
Speaker 1: or your energy drops. So when this is fully fueled,
Speaker 1: when those certuans are doing their job, everything happens in
Speaker 1: the right way. Second thing they do is they reduce
Speaker 1: your inflammation, which is the basis of most breakdown the body.
Speaker 1: Third thing they do, it's just critical, is they help
Speaker 1: your mitochondria, just the energy force inside every cell in
Speaker 1: your body, convert food into energy into ATP. It's pretty important.
Speaker 1: And then they have a separate task that is they
Speaker 1: clean up your DNA. So at thirty five or thirty four,
Speaker 1: you have a certain amount of exposure, more than when
Speaker 1: you were twenty. When you're fifty, it'll be even higher.
Speaker 1: At sixty, even higher. Well around forty, your stem cells
Speaker 1: drop off the cliff. Around fifty, the certuans, the fuel
Speaker 1: certuans drops off the cliff. And that's called an AD,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure some of your people have heard about,
Speaker 1: you may even spoken about. And you can do an
Speaker 1: AD as an IV. It doesn't absorb a lot though.
Speaker 1: An AD though, has a precursor called NMN like never,
Speaker 1: mother Never. I'm sure you've heard of it, and so
Speaker 1: I've known about that, and so but I didn't understand
Speaker 1: that if you don't have enough any and in then
Speaker 1: the body has to decide between do I help the
Speaker 1: body turn on epigenome, do I help it reduce inflammation
Speaker 1: because there only so much? Do I really help it
Speaker 1: create enough energy in the cell? Or do I clean
Speaker 1: up the DNA. So imagine you have a mansion and
Speaker 1: you have a young staff and your house looks perfect
Speaker 1: all the time because they're young and bright and they're
Speaker 1: on top of things. Make down, no one notices they
Speaker 1: clean it up. But as they get older and slower
Speaker 1: and then there's less resources any d Now the mansion
Speaker 1: starts to break down. That's aging. So what doctor Sinclair
Speaker 1: did is figure out how to supplement that NMN and
Speaker 1: you can go buy an amen on the you know,
Speaker 1: you look on Amazon even and there's probably a list
Speaker 1: of a dozen or so brands that do it. So
Speaker 1: we tested six of them just for price points as
Speaker 1: a thirty nine dollars a month one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: nine dollars a month, and there was no NMN in
Speaker 1: any of them. And I asked the lab guys said,
Speaker 1: are these people just thieves? He as well, most of
Speaker 1: it comes from China, so I can't say for sure,
Speaker 1: he said, but what I can tell you is much
Speaker 1: more likely is MMM breaks down a less than thirty days.
Speaker 1: So but time it comes from China gets to your door,
Speaker 1: there's nothing in it. So they built a more stable
Speaker 1: NIMEN which we have and used. But there's something coming on.
Speaker 1: What your audience know about a little shut up I've
Speaker 1: talked about. So it's a company called Microbiotech and eden Rock.
Speaker 1: This merger these two companies. They saw the power of
Speaker 1: NMN and they said, if you could find an M
Speaker 1: and M that was stable and was even more absorbable,
Speaker 1: it would transform people. So, for example, in a mouse,
Speaker 1: they give NMN to mice and they live thirty percent longer.
Speaker 1: So not all mice studies transfer to humans. They take
Speaker 1: an old mouse, like a seventy year old person, be
Speaker 1: like a twenty month old mouse. Okay, so that's an
Speaker 1: old mouse, and they put them on a treadmill and
Speaker 1: the most they can run without collapsing is about a
Speaker 1: quarter of a kilometer. A young dynamic mouse like a
Speaker 1: twenty one year old can run four times that a
Speaker 1: full kilometer. Wow, fourteen days on NIMAN and the old mouse,
Speaker 1: the seventy year old mouse will run two to three
Speaker 1: kilometers two hundred to three hundred percent more. So again
Speaker 1: I read about this, I was like, well, that really
Speaker 1: transfer to humans. So this has been the breakthrough. It
Speaker 1: only happened a few months ago, right before I published
Speaker 1: the book. The Special Forces in Boston for two years
Speaker 1: has been doing a private study that's been top secret
Speaker 1: about using this new form of MMM. It's called MB
Speaker 1: six two six, and it'll be available in eighteen to
Speaker 1: twenty four months. But it got out because the commander
Speaker 1: they just finished the two year study. First year was safety,
Speaker 1: second year is efficacy, and the commander was debriefing his team.
Speaker 1: It didn't realize there was a newspaper person in the room,
Speaker 1: so part of it got out. It was in the
Speaker 1: Daily Mail a couple of weeks ago also, and they
Speaker 1: only know a part of it. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: the things. I'm an investor in the company. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you what's not public, but I'll tell you what's public.
Speaker 1: What the commander said was, here's what I can tell you, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: What happens with mice happens with the most powerful men
Speaker 1: and women in the world. Mean, the most conditioned men
Speaker 1: in the world saw a massive increases endurance just from
Speaker 1: taking this seminen, massive increase and muscle strength without any
Speaker 1: more stimulation, and most importantly, increased cognitive ability, which when
Speaker 1: you're a soldier, what's going to get you to stay
Speaker 1: alive when you're exhausted or beat up or injured or
Speaker 1: complete the mission is going to be your brain. So
Speaker 1: they're now doing studies on COVID with it, they're doing
Speaker 1: studies with groups of forty to sixty year olds that
Speaker 1: are unconditioned and they're seeing the same result. So in
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty four months, the FDA will have this
Speaker 1: will not be a nutraceutical. This will be something go
Speaker 1: to your doctor and imagine you get something that is natural,
Speaker 1: but you put in your body. And now all four
Speaker 1: of those things I told about are going full tilt.
Speaker 1: Now you're turn on and off the right genes now,
Speaker 1: inflammations coming down, you've got more energy at a cellular level,
Speaker 1: and your DNA is being cleaned up. So that's less
Speaker 1: than two years away from us right now. That's incredible.
Speaker 1: So you first approach it through behavior change. Now you're
Speaker 1: changing the actual part of Yeah, that's amazing. Yes, And
Speaker 1: do you think though that and putting together both those
Speaker 1: approaches that you've invested in from a point of view
Speaker 1: of your whole career and what you're working on now,
Speaker 1: how much is that change of behavior still going to
Speaker 1: be required? Because my worry is, as you know, is
Speaker 1: people say, Okay, I'm gonna take this pill and it's
Speaker 1: going to drop my inflamation, but then I'm going to
Speaker 1: eat things that create more inflammation. Like how does behavior
Speaker 1: change go hand in hand with them? I found that
Speaker 1: when people have more energy. I don't know what your
Speaker 1: experience is, that their behaviors change. Yes, when you're low energy,
Speaker 1: kind of lethargic, even the way you think. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at what COVID's done by having people coped up
Speaker 1: and not moving very much. Right, I've had a chance
Speaker 1: to use this product. There's products available right now if
Speaker 1: me and I've been using those, and they're very powerful,
Speaker 1: but this one is even more visceral. I mean, you
Speaker 1: feel like you're ready to buzz around. I cannot wait.
Speaker 1: It's like it blows my mind what it does. Right,
Speaker 1: So I think what people feel like that My experience
Speaker 1: is they tend to develop different patterns. It's just like
Speaker 1: if you've ever gone on a cleanse, even for a
Speaker 1: short time, your palette changes, but all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you don't like the things that you once like. So
Speaker 1: my hope is for people there. But I don't just
Speaker 1: rely on that, as you know, because I teach people
Speaker 1: all the other ways to shift their life. But I
Speaker 1: think it's important to know that there are some tools
Speaker 1: available right now and some coming very quickly. They will
Speaker 1: radically change the value of your health and also regardless
Speaker 1: of your age. It's the whole idea is like to
Speaker 1: be able to take as you get older, to stay
Speaker 1: younger physiologically and psychologically and emotionally. Incredibly priceless. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's fantastic though, because that specific idea that once you've
Speaker 1: had the taste, yes, of what energy feels like. We
Speaker 1: all know that we make better decisions when we experience that.
Speaker 1: And so even if that can give people that shift, yes,
Speaker 1: this is how you could feel, this is how you
Speaker 1: are feeling now, Yes, then we can make better choices
Speaker 1: moving Most people. Also, if they're going to find out
Speaker 1: about it, they've been pursuing something anyway, right, Yes, So
Speaker 1: it's like someone's gonna pick up the book life for
Speaker 1: us they're looking for answers. They want more energy or
Speaker 1: more strength, or they want to help somebody in their family.
Speaker 1: It's dealing with a real issue and they want to
Speaker 1: know the best. So it's Stiken encyclopedias. Yeah, this plan.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is an encyclopedia San Antonia. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was reading parts of each chapter, but
Speaker 1: this is truly an encyclopedia. By the way, the cartoons
Speaker 1: make it unencyclopedia. But these are brilliant, they're hilarious, and
Speaker 1: they truly crack you up. So one of the things
Speaker 1: I wanted to dive into with Tony was that same
Speaker 1: thing that I experienced, and I want to hear it
Speaker 1: from your perspective. You've been biohacking for a long time.
Speaker 1: What a few things that you've shifted in your behavior
Speaker 1: that have created more energy? Yes, that shifts that actually
Speaker 1: helped you expand your energy right, Like you said, you're
Speaker 1: serving more people right now, but even when you aren't traveling,
Speaker 1: you're moving around the world, you're coaching sports teams, you're
Speaker 1: coaching individuals, you have groups. How have you been able
Speaker 1: to expand your energy year over year? What are some
Speaker 1: of the simple tweaks that people could do today while
Speaker 1: they wait for this amazing product. Well there's products now now,
Speaker 1: But for me, it's you know, I was a vegan
Speaker 1: for about ten years and then I ate fish and
Speaker 1: salad basically for about twelve years. So dietarily, I've always
Speaker 1: tried to make sure that what I had was as
Speaker 1: clean as possible to start with. Then I train like
Speaker 1: a crazy person, you know. I do oxygen restriction training
Speaker 1: type of things so that my capacity strong, but I'm
Speaker 1: also trying to train so I can literally do two
Speaker 1: and a half marathons on a day and then another
Speaker 1: day and another day another day. For me, the most
Speaker 1: important thing I think has been for me is, believe
Speaker 1: it or not, has been a combination of hot and
Speaker 1: cold temperatures that I use. Like I start every single
Speaker 1: morning in the freezing water, and I do it for
Speaker 1: two reasons. One is it moves every bit of blood
Speaker 1: in your body and all your lemp in your system.
Speaker 1: But also kind of train my brain to say when
Speaker 1: I say go, we go. You know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: there's never a day I look forward to going in
Speaker 1: the water. And I have, you know, fifty six degree
Speaker 1: water here, but at my home in Sun Valley. I
Speaker 1: go literally through the snow and get in the river,
Speaker 1: which is you know, like thirty nine forty degrees in
Speaker 1: the wintertime, and but you feel so incredible when you
Speaker 1: come out. But also it's just training your brain saying
Speaker 1: I say go, we go. It's not like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready yet and let me wait five minutes. And
Speaker 1: that becomes a discipline in your mind for everything else
Speaker 1: in your life, which is huge. And then, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, saunas. Just in the last year I started
Speaker 1: to use the saunas. They see a huge change. I've
Speaker 1: always known about saunas using every now and then, but
Speaker 1: there's so much research on it now and have it
Speaker 1: book that will blow your mind. Like four days a
Speaker 1: week in a sauna for just twenty minutes at one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degrees plus, whether it's a you know,
Speaker 1: a laser type sauna, red sna going in or or
Speaker 1: a traditional one will absolutely change your health in or ways.
Speaker 1: And you can imagine like people that don't really work out,
Speaker 1: I can get them to do this now and they
Speaker 1: just go sit in the sauna. But what happens It
Speaker 1: reduces your chance of a heart attack, by over fifty
Speaker 1: one and reduce your chance of a stroke by sixty
Speaker 1: two percent your overall health. As we're doing I mean it.
Speaker 1: And then here's the thing I've noticed. It happens that
Speaker 1: people I get doing this, they wouldn't work out. Now
Speaker 1: they do the sauna and they put some music on,
Speaker 1: or they put a movie in the background or something.
Speaker 1: And the great thing is after doing it for about
Speaker 1: a month sweating everything else, now they want to work out.
Speaker 1: Now they want to do something else. So I look
Speaker 1: for the things, the quick little hacks that can make
Speaker 1: it happen in my life. I also use cryotherapy. And
Speaker 1: cryotherapy takes your body down to minus two fifty, you know,
Speaker 1: Fahrekneit takes out like you know. I used to ic
Speaker 1: myself because after an event I've been you know, running
Speaker 1: up and down the stadium walls and everything else. Every
Speaker 1: ounce of me fourteen hour on stage, twelve hours on
Speaker 1: stage is gone and I go go ice like I
Speaker 1: did in football, and you know, twenty minutes on, twenty
Speaker 1: minutes off. It's painful, but I had to do it.
Speaker 1: Now I go in for two and a half minutes
Speaker 1: in a cryotherapy unit and there's no inflammation in my body.
Speaker 1: It's just mind bogging for people who have osteouthritis. Also,
Speaker 1: like my mother in law had such bad ostriothritis, even
Speaker 1: medications weren't helping her, and she was crying at night,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I gotta find an answer. That's how
Speaker 1: I find crying. And I started ring about cryotherapy and
Speaker 1: started ring out athletes doing it. But I started reading
Speaker 1: what it does for osteo threat. She has no pain now, right.
Speaker 1: So they're just tools and you don't have to own
Speaker 1: one of these things. Yes, you know, I'm fortunate enough
Speaker 1: to have one here, but you know you can go.
Speaker 1: There's local places all over the United States, all over
Speaker 1: the world now where you can just go in five
Speaker 1: or ten minutes and it's amazing. People just need to
Speaker 1: try it out. So there's lots of different tools. There's
Speaker 1: exercises you can do that I love called osteostrong. I
Speaker 1: invest in this company. It's a ten minute workout. Sounds
Speaker 1: like total BS. This is, yes, well it also it
Speaker 1: helps you build stronger bones, which must have been care
Speaker 1: about bones women understand, you know, in their fifties. Osteoporosis
Speaker 1: is really huge thing and most of the drugs will
Speaker 1: eventually fossilize the bones. This is the only thing that's
Speaker 1: been proven increased bone density by about fourteen percent. But
Speaker 1: my athlete friends love it. I love it because when
Speaker 1: your bones are stronger, your muscles are limited by your
Speaker 1: bone strength, because otherwise your muscles will rip open the bone. Right,
Speaker 1: So this is a ten and exercise. You do four
Speaker 1: different exercises and you go to a local place. You'll
Speaker 1: have to own the equipment, and literally you're done in
Speaker 1: that time and you see the transformation. First time I
Speaker 1: did this, I remember I've worked with this woman. She
Speaker 1: was about sixty three years old, and I went to
Speaker 1: Gould's gym with her because he didn't have these machines.
Speaker 1: Then there was a way of doing it with weights.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit spooky if you've screwed up,
Speaker 1: because the weight was so heavy. And there was this
Speaker 1: guy who was like, I don't know, twenty five twenty
Speaker 1: six years old, ponytail, sweating like crazy doing the leg press,
Speaker 1: and we had a camera crew there and she says, sir,
Speaker 1: he took a break and he's sweat and she goes, sir,
Speaker 1: can I just get a quick set in between you
Speaker 1: and she's in normal clothes and she's like sixty two
Speaker 1: years old, sixty few years old, and looked like she
Speaker 1: was almost seventy. And he thought he's being punked. Right,
Speaker 1: it gets up and she goes, could you put another
Speaker 1: hundred pounds on? Literally another hundred pounds on? And so
Speaker 1: there's a technique where you use an extreme amount of
Speaker 1: weight for a short period of time and it stimulates
Speaker 1: it because you don't get growth by working out. You
Speaker 1: get growth by rest. But you have to have a
Speaker 1: stimulus that's strong enough. And I started doing, you know,
Speaker 1: a bench press in those days, like two hundred forty pounds,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I bench press five
Speaker 1: to twenty five and I did sixteen hundred pounds on
Speaker 1: the leg press. And the guy from Goals, Jim came over.
Speaker 1: Hep in film, and he's like, you're doing this with
Speaker 1: your mind. It was like, no anybody, anybody can do this.
Speaker 1: But now they have these machines so you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about the weight being too heavi or dropping
Speaker 1: on you. So there are these little tools that can
Speaker 1: make you stronger, make you faster. And then there's simple
Speaker 1: things I never did, like I was working on the
Speaker 1: sleep chapter at six twenty five in the morning, and
Speaker 1: I had to be up in two and a half hours, Like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with this picture? Because my whole thing was
Speaker 1: on My wife loves the sleep eight hours, nine hours,
Speaker 1: should be thrilled. My thing is all sleep when I die, right.
Speaker 1: But then while I was doing the research for this book,
Speaker 1: I met this doctor who's top neurobiologist over it up
Speaker 1: in northern California. He works for Google and everybody else.
Speaker 1: He's considered the top sleep doctor in the world. And
Speaker 1: he says, Tony, I think I can convince you. And
Speaker 1: I said, good luck, give me your best shot. And
Speaker 1: he said, well, I did a study. We got a
Speaker 1: study with one point six billion people on sleep. I go,
Speaker 1: you couldn't have possibly coordinated that, and he goes, I
Speaker 1: didn't have to. It's all the countries, seventy countries that
Speaker 1: have daylight savings times. And he said, here's what you
Speaker 1: gotta His name is doctor Walker. He says, He says, Tony,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is look at the real numbers.
Speaker 1: Let me show you the numbers. And he showed me
Speaker 1: that for three days after we spring forward, you lose
Speaker 1: one hour and every country in the world, on average
Speaker 1: heart attacks increased twenty four percent. And when we fall
Speaker 1: back and you get one extra hour all around the
Speaker 1: world in seventy countries on average twenty one percent decrease
Speaker 1: in heart attacks. And then he does the same stats
Speaker 1: on accidents and everything else. And then he showed me
Speaker 1: stats that show, you know, a man that slept four
Speaker 1: and a half five hours a night like I was doing,
Speaker 1: usually at testosterone levels by somebody's ten years older than
Speaker 1: where I got my attention. So it's a combination of sleep,
Speaker 1: it's a combination of the right diet, it's a combination
Speaker 1: of the right stimulus of exercise. It's really doing those
Speaker 1: fundamentals that make a difference for you, and then it's
Speaker 1: doing these cool things like stem cells that completely changed
Speaker 1: my life. Yeah, what do you think? Having said that,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the greatest human skill? Not habit,
Speaker 1: but mindset and skill. That's a great question. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I got the what the great there's so
Speaker 1: many It depends on what you want out of your life, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think the ability to manage your own mind
Speaker 1: and emotions is probably one of the single most importance
Speaker 1: and maybe The second is the ability to influence others,
Speaker 1: because that's what makes you a leader, and hopefully you're
Speaker 1: doing that for a higher good, because there are all
Speaker 1: kinds of leaders, as you know. But I think I
Speaker 1: don't think most people are very good at emotional fitness.
Speaker 1: Most people are just not as happy as they could be.
Speaker 1: You know, I did one book, money Master the Game.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like this, only in what I did
Speaker 1: in that case is I interviewed, you know, fifty of
Speaker 1: the smartest financial people the world Wade Value our icon
Speaker 1: Warm Buffett, and at a fifty of them. And I know,
Speaker 1: again it's in my judgment. I could be completely wrong,
Speaker 1: and I spent a lot of time with them. Some
Speaker 1: have become really good friends. There's probably four or five
Speaker 1: that are really happy people. Oh well, money makes people unhappy.
Speaker 1: Not to do with money. Money makes you more of
Speaker 1: what you are, just magnifies. If you're mean, you have
Speaker 1: more to be mean with. If you're kind, you have
Speaker 1: more to give, you know. But I think that most
Speaker 1: people are just they haven't learned to manage what's going inside.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how much abundance they have, they're still and happy.
Speaker 1: We've all seen people that great comedians that have killed themselves.
Speaker 1: Anthony Bourdain, beautiful man traveled the world, killed himself. You know,
Speaker 1: you know fashion designers that have done it. We've all
Speaker 1: seen all these different people, Kate Spade, and it's like
Speaker 1: what they had everything, except they didn't master what's going
Speaker 1: on here and here and again. You know, this is
Speaker 1: why you lived your life the way you have as well.
Speaker 1: So I think that skill set is the most important one.
Speaker 1: And that's why even in the book, my last two chapters,
Speaker 1: I make it the most important, because it's really about
Speaker 1: the power of the mind. Because like everybody knows about
Speaker 1: Placebo's right, they're only discovered in World War two, and
Speaker 1: it was discovered by accident. This doctor ran out of
Speaker 1: morphine and he's treating these these people that are badly injured,
Speaker 1: and you know, you need the morphine not just so
Speaker 1: they're out of pain, but say they don't go into shock.
Speaker 1: And the actual person who discovered this gets no credit
Speaker 1: was a nurse because the nurse hand him a syringe
Speaker 1: and said we've got some more morphine. So he believed it,
Speaker 1: and he said, you'll be out of pain, and just
Speaker 1: less than a minute he injected them and in every case.
Speaker 1: None of them went in a shock. Ninety percent of
Speaker 1: them were out of pain, and they used nothing. It
Speaker 1: was sailing right. So after World War Two he went
Speaker 1: back to Harvard and he was the person that created
Speaker 1: what we now considered being the double buying studies, which
Speaker 1: are always compared to a placebo. Right. And what most
Speaker 1: people don't know is the bigger the placebo intervention, the
Speaker 1: more powerful the mind believes in. So a small pill
Speaker 1: is less effective than a big pill. An injection is
Speaker 1: more powerful than a pill in terms of its effectiveness.
Speaker 1: The most powerful is a sham surgery. The Veterans Administration
Speaker 1: did a study and they did on people doing knee
Speaker 1: surgeries and they took one third of the people and
Speaker 1: they just cut them open, nesticize them, and sell the backup.
Speaker 1: Did nothing. A year later, this group, the group that
Speaker 1: had no surgery, had the least amount of pain, the
Speaker 1: most amount of flexibility, most about it. So they stopped
Speaker 1: funding those surgeries. To give you an idea, but that's
Speaker 1: how powerful it is, and so when you it's even
Speaker 1: more than Harvard did a study where they took barbiturates
Speaker 1: maybe these big red pills, and said this is an
Speaker 1: amphetamine you need to prepare your body because you're going
Speaker 1: to speed up. It didn't give them something fake. They
Speaker 1: give him an actual drug that slows the body down,
Speaker 1: and the body sped up. So most people don't understand
Speaker 1: the power of the mind. And so what I try
Speaker 1: to do is show people, even in this book, here
Speaker 1: are the things that you can do to take control
Speaker 1: of your mind. Because if you take care of your
Speaker 1: body and then you don't take care of your mind
Speaker 1: and emotions, you got me miserable. Yeah, who cares? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What spot? That question was something you said. You said
Speaker 1: that you start your morning by jumping in the cold.
Speaker 1: That's right, and you never feel like doing it, and
Speaker 1: you said that, I just say to my body, it's
Speaker 1: time to go. And that's the question because I was like,
Speaker 1: that's a really interesting skill that you've trained yourself to
Speaker 1: be okay with discomfort. Yes, you're training yourself as your
Speaker 1: first skill of the day is yes, I am okay
Speaker 1: with uncomfortable things. Yes, And I know I can get
Speaker 1: through the yes. And that to me is what sounds
Speaker 1: like a really important part of emotional fitness. It is
Speaker 1: because unless you can push through discomfort, thost things that
Speaker 1: are going to give you the greatest reward required discomfort initially, right,
Speaker 1: and the discomfort it's like, you know, my original teacher
Speaker 1: Germon you mus to always say, you know, there's two
Speaker 1: pains in life, the pain of discipline or the pain
Speaker 1: of regret. He goes discipline ways, ounces regret waste tons,
Speaker 1: you know. And so I've trained myself to do that,
Speaker 1: and then then I meditate. Then I always make an
Speaker 1: acknowledgement call briefly or leave a voicemail for someone just
Speaker 1: because to spark the day. And then I do. The
Speaker 1: first thing I do is always whatever is the most difficult, yes,
Speaker 1: because then the momentum for your day and when you
Speaker 1: train your brain to do it's difficult first, then emotional
Speaker 1: fitness just comes naturally, and more importantly, so does achievement.
Speaker 1: So does your ability contribute to other people? Because I
Speaker 1: have one hundred and five, but he's now a gived idea.
Speaker 1: I managed thirteen of them directly, you know, ongoingly. And
Speaker 1: you know, there are all kinds of different industries from
Speaker 1: AI to you know, my resorts in Fiji to sports
Speaker 1: teams zone, and I mean it's insane the ecotomy of
Speaker 1: all we're doing. Seven billion dollars in business. So I
Speaker 1: got to do that while I'm being a good dad
Speaker 1: to five kids and five million kids, while I'm taking
Speaker 1: care of my body, while I'm living my normal mission.
Speaker 1: So if I don't take care of my body and
Speaker 1: my energy and my mind, I mean, you'd be overwhelmed
Speaker 1: by all the demands because listen, all I gotta do
Speaker 1: is pick up my phone, and you're gonna have all kinds.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good ship, that's it, because you know, what
Speaker 1: are the chances with thousands of employees on three four
Speaker 1: tender continents now that somebody's messing up. If messing up
Speaker 1: is not but I think they should be doing, it's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So I'd always be in reaction until
Speaker 1: I train my brain to say, now, you know, problems
Speaker 1: are a sign of life and all they are challenges
Speaker 1: to be solved. And what makes you a great leaders
Speaker 1: you ability to solve problems or teach teams to build
Speaker 1: a culture where they can solve problems. And so it
Speaker 1: gives me this tremend this creativity and flexibility. But I've
Speaker 1: got the base of energy to make it work. Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: And you've given yourself a permission to say this, this
Speaker 1: matters first, before we get lost in the seven billion
Speaker 1: and one hundred and five companies and all of that.
Speaker 1: And I think that permission is often the toughest party.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that stood out to me
Speaker 1: was I sat down and this was a really beautiful
Speaker 1: answer that I want to share with you because I
Speaker 1: think it will spark where I want to go next.
Speaker 1: I interview a lot of Navy Seals, and I liked
Speaker 1: sitting down with people have had extreme experiences because I
Speaker 1: feel that extreme experiences have opened up different parts of
Speaker 1: the brain, different parts of the body that we've ever
Speaker 1: had and the spirit and the spirit too exactly. And
Speaker 1: one of the people I sat down with was Jocko Willink. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, he's been a leader for twenty five years
Speaker 1: and incredible Navy seal, highly accomplished, and I asked him
Speaker 1: and we were on zoom right. This was during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: so I didn't even get to have this with him,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm so grateful for this too. I
Speaker 1: sat with him and I said to him, I said,
Speaker 1: you've done everything that difficult and uncomfortable potentially known to
Speaker 1: human beings in your field. Once the most difficult thing
Speaker 1: you've ever done. And I didn't. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to expect, and I never do. I try not to
Speaker 1: project or predict what I think someone's going to say.
Speaker 1: And he said to me, said, the most difficult thing
Speaker 1: that I've been through is watching a fellow trooper go
Speaker 1: down next to me and having to carry on the
Speaker 1: mission without getting the moment to save, to mourn, to hold,
Speaker 1: to carry egoes that just have to continue the mission. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was just an answer that, you know, he
Speaker 1: could have said, Oh, it was like standing in the
Speaker 1: cold water. I was doing this, I was doing that,
Speaker 1: And so I wanted to ask you, what was the
Speaker 1: most difficult thing when you know all this and you've
Speaker 1: seen someone's pain and either they weren't willing to apply it,
Speaker 1: you saw them too late. Has there been someone in
Speaker 1: your life that you're like, I had all these tools
Speaker 1: to help them with, but they weren't ready to receive
Speaker 1: all that. It wasn't accessible at that time for them.
Speaker 1: Has there been that or or have you found that
Speaker 1: you've always found a way to get through and not
Speaker 1: even you personally, I mean in your personal life too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I first of all identify, I agree with what Jacques
Speaker 1: told you, which is, you know, dealing with the loss
Speaker 1: of someone you care about is probably the most difficult
Speaker 1: thing of all. I would say maybe as a child
Speaker 1: seeing the level of frustration between my parents, you know,
Speaker 1: I had four different fathers, and watching them kind of
Speaker 1: you know, accept whatever life gave them as It's why
Speaker 1: a lot of my drive came about is seeing my
Speaker 1: fathers be berated by my mother, who I love dearly,
Speaker 1: and just watching them break down, like you know, probably
Speaker 1: the single most painful event of my life but also
Speaker 1: shaped me in such a beautiful way, was when I
Speaker 1: was eleven years old. We had no money for food
Speaker 1: and it was Thanksgiving, which in America's big holiday feast.
Speaker 1: And so we've been without food before. We have crackers
Speaker 1: and butter, you know, we survived. But we were gonna
Speaker 1: have a Thanksgiving feast. And there's knock at the door
Speaker 1: and I go to the door and there's this giant
Speaker 1: guy there with groceries in each hand, and he had
Speaker 1: a pot beside him on the ground with an uncooked turkey,
Speaker 1: and I just like, I said, who are you here for?
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm like, speak to your father, and my
Speaker 1: mom and dad were yelling at each other, saying things
Speaker 1: that you can never take back. And I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make sure my younger brother and sister are They're five
Speaker 1: and seven years younger wouldn't hear any of this. And
Speaker 1: that day changed my life because I thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna be the most exciting day. Dad. Dad, go to
Speaker 1: the front, what is it that it's for you? You answered, no,
Speaker 1: it's for you, and I remember opened the door and
Speaker 1: I was just so excited to see my father be happy,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna have a feast. This is going to
Speaker 1: be incredible. And he got angry and he's like, we
Speaker 1: don't accept charity. He went to slam the door, and
Speaker 1: the man's face and the man's foot was there, so
Speaker 1: bounced off his foot. He's still open the groceries. He's like, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm just the delivery guy. He said, it's it's not charity.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a tough time. Someone bought this and they're
Speaker 1: sending it to you as a gift. And my father said,
Speaker 1: we don't take charity. Goes to close the door again.
Speaker 1: This time the guy's shoulder was there also, so it
Speaker 1: bounced off again, and then I was standing right there
Speaker 1: and there's this moment I'll never get where the man
Speaker 1: looked at my father and he looked at me and
Speaker 1: he said, sir, don't let your ego make your family suffer.
Speaker 1: And the veins of my dad's face on the side
Speaker 1: of his neck. I'll never forget the bulge I like,
Speaker 1: his face turned around. I thought I was gonna punch
Speaker 1: him in the face. And then there's this moment my
Speaker 1: dad's shoulders dropped, he took the groceries, slammed the door,
Speaker 1: didn't say thank you, and stormed off. And I always
Speaker 1: remember thinking, like, how come he's not happy? You know,
Speaker 1: you talk about pain. It's like, I love my father
Speaker 1: so much. And there's basically three decisions that I think
Speaker 1: everybody makes in their life that, whether aware of it
Speaker 1: or not, moment to moment. I figured this out afterwards
Speaker 1: because I was so obsessed with what's wrong, because he
Speaker 1: eventually left our family, and that was the most painful
Speaker 1: thing I ever have. So it's like feeling like I failed,
Speaker 1: you know, I blame myself, like why couldn't he get
Speaker 1: through to my father? You know, I was eleven years old.
Speaker 1: But later on it helped me understand that three decisions
Speaker 1: are First, you're gonna side what to focus on. Every
Speaker 1: moment of your life, there's something grabbing your focus and
Speaker 1: you don't life you experienced the part of life you
Speaker 1: focus on right. What's wrong is always available, so is
Speaker 1: what's right right, And they're different kinds of focus. And
Speaker 1: my dad's focus that day was really on what he
Speaker 1: hadn't done. And I know that because he kept muttering it.
Speaker 1: You know, I hadn't take care of his family. There's
Speaker 1: no funny for Thanksgiving. Somebody had to give us charity.
Speaker 1: And then the second decision you make about once you
Speaker 1: focus on something is what does it mean? Is this
Speaker 1: the end of the beginning. I think it's the end
Speaker 1: of a relationship you're gonna behave different than it's the beginning. Right.
Speaker 1: My dad's meaning was that he was worthless. And so
Speaker 1: then the third decisions what do I do, which whatever
Speaker 1: meaning come up with creates the emotions which affects what
Speaker 1: you do. And what do you say to do? Is
Speaker 1: leave our family? But for me it was like, this
Speaker 1: is amazing. I mean, you know we haven't having thanksgivings.
Speaker 1: You know this is incredible. We got food. What a concept?
Speaker 1: And then the meaning, though, is what changed my whole life,
Speaker 1: which was Wow Stranger's care that completely changed my life.
Speaker 1: That painful experience, I couldn't deny that somebody who wanted
Speaker 1: no credit delivered those food to my family. And so
Speaker 1: what I decided to do is say, someday, I'm going
Speaker 1: to do this for another family. So when I was seventeen,
Speaker 1: I had two families, and it was a euphoric experience.
Speaker 1: I went in jeans and a T shirt in and
Speaker 1: go like the delivery guy. But I wanted to see
Speaker 1: the face of the people. And then next year was
Speaker 1: four people, and then it was eight. I literally my
Speaker 1: thing was doubling a little company. And then I got
Speaker 1: to a million people a year, and I got to
Speaker 1: four million people a year. Then I was doing money Master,
Speaker 1: the game, I mean, the being these billionaires Jay, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching Congress cut food stamps. It's not called the
Speaker 1: Snap program by I think it was six billion dollars.
Speaker 1: So every family that actually needs food, and my family
Speaker 1: was one of those. Back then, they all have to
Speaker 1: come up with a week's worth of food out of
Speaker 1: every month. So I was like, I called my team
Speaker 1: and I said, how many people have I fed my lifetime?
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was forty two million meals. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's pretty cool. And I was like, what
Speaker 1: if I fed fifty million people like my entire lifetime
Speaker 1: in one year? And there's like what if I did
Speaker 1: a HydroD menion? What if I fed a billion people
Speaker 1: in ten years? So that was seven years ago. Were
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and fifty million meals. Right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit the billion early than my promised and targeted and
Speaker 1: then I've got a sustainable approach. But I tell you
Speaker 1: that because my worst day was my best day. The
Speaker 1: most painful day of the day, where I felt like
Speaker 1: I'd do the least, where I felt impinite, led me
Speaker 1: to have new understandings, new skills, new capacities, new drives,
Speaker 1: new hunger. I mean, would I really be feeding one
Speaker 1: hundred million people a year, one hundred million meals a
Speaker 1: year if I was well fed as a child. Probably not.
Speaker 1: And I'd love to believe I'm such a perfect person,
Speaker 1: but no, I'm just I just know what suffering feels like.
Speaker 1: So I don't want anybody else to suffer, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes the suffering experiences of our life,
Speaker 1: if we don't let them crush us, we let them
Speaker 1: drive us. They actually become the best day in your
Speaker 1: life and taking your worst day and making your best day.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful target for anybody. That that is just
Speaker 1: it's magical. Even hearing it, that's magical experience. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I can only imagine, like just hearing it, I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, it's such a beautiful visual, so to live
Speaker 1: it is just you know, on the other end of that,
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that so much. Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: profound and so wonderful. With the with the questions, that's
Speaker 1: when you see, you see there's grace in life too.
Speaker 1: It's like if you can, like I always to think
Speaker 1: in the early days, because my mom was beautiful. She
Speaker 1: was the most influential person in my life. And yet
Speaker 1: she also when she drank alcohol and took prescription medication,
Speaker 1: she got crazy. So she smashed my head against the
Speaker 1: multipe ladder of Feee liquid soap. And I never told
Speaker 1: me me about some when she's alive. But I had
Speaker 1: this group of young kids that I could see. The
Speaker 1: tall white guy who seems to be quite successful. You know,
Speaker 1: what does he know? So I told him the whole story.
Speaker 1: But out of all that It's like if my mom
Speaker 1: had been the mother I wanted her to be, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd probably not be the man I'm proud to be. Yes,
Speaker 1: Like I had to grow. I had to become a
Speaker 1: practical psychologist at eleven to manage her so that like
Speaker 1: brother and sister weren't messed up. And it's like there's
Speaker 1: grace and everything. And I always think it's like, it's
Speaker 1: our job to realize the life's happening for us, not
Speaker 1: to us, and to find how it's happening for us.
Speaker 1: That's our job. If we do that, then we have
Speaker 1: a magical life. If we don't, but if your energy
Speaker 1: is low and you're exhausted, then you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: find those empowering meanings. Yeah, you know that's why to me,
Speaker 1: you can't separate the mind and the body. You got
Speaker 1: to feed the mind and strengthen the body on a
Speaker 1: daily basis in some way, and if you do that,
Speaker 1: life can be pretty miraculous. Yeah, and I did that
Speaker 1: for too long. I can actually relate to that. It
Speaker 1: was my wife that turned me onto the body because
Speaker 1: I was one of those people that focused on the
Speaker 1: mind and the spirit right, And as I shared with you,
Speaker 1: earlier ignored the body because I thought, well, I'm young,
Speaker 1: I've always been healthy. I don't really know what physical
Speaker 1: health looks like. And then my wife is a nutrition
Speaker 1: and dietitianist and I already health counselor. She comes into
Speaker 1: my life and she's just like, you need to do this, this, this, this, this,
Speaker 1: you need to change this in your diet. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: why are you asking you to change? But it was
Speaker 1: so fascinating to me because it's exactly what you just said.
Speaker 1: You can't disconnect the two. And going on that, you
Speaker 1: said focus in mood about your father. You have a
Speaker 1: whole section in here dedicated to focus in moody. Walk
Speaker 1: us through that, because what you just explained to us
Speaker 1: is the emotional focus and moody of your father, but
Speaker 1: here talking about how the physicality of focusing mood can
Speaker 1: affect that they go together. To give an example, how
Speaker 1: powerfully offer the psychological side. Right now, you don't have
Speaker 1: to out of COVID. So many people have been shut
Speaker 1: down terrible place, and you know, I'm sure you've seen
Speaker 1: that drug overdoses at the largest they've ever been in histories,
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand people last year suicides. One out
Speaker 1: of four kids under the age of thirty, according to
Speaker 1: the CDC. Whether they're accurate not, I don't know, have
Speaker 1: considered suicide sometime in the last two years. Because we
Speaker 1: all need a compelling future, we need to look something
Speaker 1: look forward to. So Stanford came to me and their
Speaker 1: genetics lab has been doing research on depression, and what
Speaker 1: they found was that by doing meta studies, is only
Speaker 1: forty percent of the people who go in for therapy,
Speaker 1: who they get drugs and therapy together, usually only forty
Speaker 1: percent make any improvement. Sixty percent don't improve at all.
Speaker 1: That's not a lot more than what you can get
Speaker 1: on some placebos. And so they approached me and said,
Speaker 1: a couple of people went through one of your programs.
Speaker 1: One was clinically depressed. They're not anymore, but we don't
Speaker 1: have any sigience on this. Would you be one little
Speaker 1: less to do a science test? And I said sure.
Speaker 1: So they came out to the state with Destiny seminar
Speaker 1: I do, which helps people to change their values and
Speaker 1: belief structures. I don't tell them what they need to be,
Speaker 1: they figure out what it needs to be and it
Speaker 1: changes the way you perceive life, the way you experience life,
Speaker 1: how you feel, what you do. It's a rewiring of
Speaker 1: your model of the world, basically in six days, and
Speaker 1: so they said, we're going to model this after the
Speaker 1: greatest breakthrough we found in science and no one able
Speaker 1: to fall up on. About two years ago, JOHNS. Hopkins
Speaker 1: did a study on depression I think, gave people psilocybin, right,
Speaker 1: which comes from magic mushrooms, and they did therapy for
Speaker 1: thirty days, and at the end of it, fifty three
Speaker 1: percent of the people were depression free. Thirty days later
Speaker 1: never happened. When we say forty percent are helped, the
Speaker 1: average amount of help is fifty percent less depressed, right,
Speaker 1: That's what the averages. Some people will completely turn around,
Speaker 1: some people in roll in this one fifty three percent
Speaker 1: of the people, so it's four times the result of
Speaker 1: any drug that's ever been done. But unfortunately psilocyban's not legal,
Speaker 1: so they're still working on them. So we're gonna copy
Speaker 1: that exact study and we're gonna have a group that
Speaker 1: they compared to, which is didn't go to the seminar.
Speaker 1: The comparison group is going to do gratitude journaling and
Speaker 1: so forth. Because positive psychology talks about that, and they said,
Speaker 1: that's probably what this seminar does is just positive thinking. Well,
Speaker 1: the cool thing was when they came out the results
Speaker 1: were so amazing at Stanford that they went and had
Speaker 1: two new additional double blind people do the research because
Speaker 1: it just seems so ridiculous. At the end of the
Speaker 1: first week, sixty three percent of people had had no
Speaker 1: depression symptoms. At the end of six weeks, it can
Speaker 1: increase through time, one hundred percent of the people had
Speaker 1: no depression symptoms, nineteen percent of the people had suicidal ideation,
Speaker 1: zero had suicidal ideation, and blows away any study. It
Speaker 1: just came out. It's coming out next week in the
Speaker 1: psychiatric journal, which is Journal Americament Association psychare Journal, or
Speaker 1: the two top journals in the field. They can't even
Speaker 1: believe it, so they're going to do more. And the
Speaker 1: actual scientific article says, this is more powerful than any
Speaker 1: drug therapy or any forms of normal therapy combined. And
Speaker 1: what are we doing. We're getting people to change basically
Speaker 1: those three questions to some extent, because your values control
Speaker 1: what you focus on. If you're security driven and you're
Speaker 1: here down to my basement right now, you're like, where's
Speaker 1: the exit? Right? You came down to slide, like, how
Speaker 1: do I get out of here? Right? If you're adventure driven,
Speaker 1: you don't care. You don't even know where it is.
Speaker 1: So your focus is controlled by your values and your
Speaker 1: belief systems. Right, the meaning of things is controlled by
Speaker 1: your belief systems. So those three decision making things. You know,
Speaker 1: what I'm going to focus on doesn't mean what I'm
Speaker 1: going to do shift. And one good example this Jay
Speaker 1: is maybe your audience can relate to this because if
Speaker 1: we just took three patterns, So let's say focus. Most
Speaker 1: people have a focus either on what they have or
Speaker 1: what's missing. We both, we all do both. But what
Speaker 1: do you think most people focus on more often what
Speaker 1: they have or what's missing? What's missing? That's right now?
Speaker 1: Even achievers do that. I it's not to like somebody
Speaker 1: who's not successful. It's one of the reasons you see
Speaker 1: these achievers that no matter what they do, it's never
Speaker 1: enough because think about it, if you're always focusing what'sing
Speaker 1: from your life, how can you sustain happiness. It's software
Speaker 1: that will not allow that. You'll feel happy for a
Speaker 1: little moment that your nose is missing again, what do
Speaker 1: you think it is? More often people focus on what
Speaker 1: they can control or can't control, what they can't control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my seminars it's can control. That's why they go,
Speaker 1: I want to learn how to control my body, or
Speaker 1: my finances or my business, whatever it is. So it's
Speaker 1: the opposite. But the average person it's what they can't control.
Speaker 1: And with COVID there's so much you can't control around
Speaker 1: you that people really sunk in that. Well, how someone
Speaker 1: I'm going to feel? Just everyone think about it. If
Speaker 1: you're constantly focused on what's missing from your life and
Speaker 1: what you can't control, and then all add one more?
Speaker 1: Do you focus more on the past, the present or
Speaker 1: the future? We all do all three, but we tend
Speaker 1: to have one we focus more on or do you
Speaker 1: think more people focus? That's right, and achievers focus on
Speaker 1: the future, and happy people on the present, so so
Speaker 1: that you know if you're going to be achiever. The
Speaker 1: ideal is the presence. You experience it, anticipate in the future,
Speaker 1: so you can shape your life. Right the past you
Speaker 1: can change. So I ask people in seminars, you got
Speaker 1: stadium fifteen twenty thousand people and they'll say, how many
Speaker 1: of you know somebody that takes enter depressants and they're
Speaker 1: still depressed. And eighty percent of the room raised their
Speaker 1: hand saying mey know, somebody, Wow, Well, how come? Because
Speaker 1: all enterpressants do is numb you so that you're less intense,
Speaker 1: But they don't deal with the source of the problem,
Speaker 1: which is you're constantly seeing what's missing, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter whether you're successful or not. That's why there are
Speaker 1: these people that have been wealthy and think their own life.
Speaker 1: They see what's missing. They focus on all the things
Speaker 1: they can't control. There's plenty we can't control, but there's
Speaker 1: plenty we can influence, and plenty we can't control. Just
Speaker 1: a couple of changes like that completely change someone's life.
Speaker 1: And so those changes in the beliefs and values change
Speaker 1: what they look moment to moment, change their experience of life.
Speaker 1: They're no longer depressed. Yeah. The biggest thing that I
Speaker 1: learned from that, apart from all the incredible stuff you said,
Speaker 1: is I didn't think about security once when we came
Speaker 1: down to life. That's either because I trust you a lot.
Speaker 1: If it was someone else telling me to get down
Speaker 1: this life, I don't know if I would have done it.
Speaker 1: But now and now I'm like, oh wait a minute, underwater.
Speaker 1: Now I've started to have all that's incredible. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's those questions are fascinating to me. And you were
Speaker 1: saying that the people that come to your seminars or
Speaker 1: people out of the opposite, and I think the same
Speaker 1: of the people I listened to this podcast. They're choosing
Speaker 1: to listen to this podcast because they were just watching
Speaker 1: a show or binge watching another series. They're here trying
Speaker 1: to take charge of that. What kind of assurance can
Speaker 1: you give them that that mindset is one that they
Speaker 1: should keep watering Because I feel that often, and you've
Speaker 1: probably heard this in your seminars time and time again.
Speaker 1: People are tony. I'm trying, I read the book, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to put into practice, but I still keep failing,
Speaker 1: or I still keep struggling. Someone who's already on but
Speaker 1: feels that failure, that rejection, that that pushback. What can
Speaker 1: keep them going? I think it's understanding there's no replacement
Speaker 1: for persistence, as simplistic as that is. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: disappointment either destroys you or drives you, and you have
Speaker 1: to decide which one it's going to be. If you
Speaker 1: don't consciously decide, there's always going to be more yes
Speaker 1: for you to deal with. And I think, but that's
Speaker 1: why I think. You know, when I do my events,
Speaker 1: the reason I do the twelve hours a day not
Speaker 1: because I like talking. It's just that I can tell
Speaker 1: you something all day long, or I can get you
Speaker 1: to build the muscle. And the building a muscle is
Speaker 1: like experiencing. And I always tell people a belief, a
Speaker 1: beliefs of poor substitute for an experience, like I gotta
Speaker 1: have a belief about you, but I experience you, so
Speaker 1: I get to know who you are. Right, The same
Speaker 1: thing is true, is like you have a belief about China,
Speaker 1: have a belief about working out. So I try to
Speaker 1: get people experiences that are so profound. And then you
Speaker 1: know the studies they do. They found people twelve months
Speaker 1: later or eleven months later, they're still in the middle
Speaker 1: of COVID. They did my digital seminar, and then you know,
Speaker 1: they measured my body like the amount of times I jump.
Speaker 1: I jump a thousand times in a day and I
Speaker 1: made two hundred and two pounds and I come down
Speaker 1: four times the body weight. So it's a thousand pounds
Speaker 1: times a thousand pounds of pressure. I am my lactic acid.
Speaker 1: If you've ever been with a friend and you're running
Speaker 1: and you can't talk the point you can't talk, as
Speaker 1: a level four of lactic acid, I'm in an eighteen
Speaker 1: is still speaking. So they decided to do that on
Speaker 1: my audience, and they found an interesting path. It's the
Speaker 1: same group that works with some of the you know,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions and some of the Stanley Cup champions
Speaker 1: and so forth. There's a ratio in the body of
Speaker 1: testosterone versus cortisol, the stress hormone, and when the ratio
Speaker 1: is balanced, they call it the championship bloodline, our bloodstream.
Speaker 1: It literally gets you to follow through. So when they
Speaker 1: did my audience in My Life seminar, they found that
Speaker 1: people literally mirror me all the way through the experience.
Speaker 1: That's phenomenal chemically penal. But we did it. We did it,
Speaker 1: you know, because all of a sudden overnight they said
Speaker 1: to me, you know, we're going to San Francisco, and
Speaker 1: the governor California says you can only have ten people,
Speaker 1: and we got fifteen thousand. So I was like, we'll
Speaker 1: go to Vegas they'll never shut down Vegas. They shut
Speaker 1: down Vegas. I was like, okay, we'll do fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: movie theaters with ten people in him. They shut down
Speaker 1: the movie theaters. Like okay, we'll go to a church
Speaker 1: in Lusten. I got a buddy, I'll rentist church forteen
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people. They're not going to keep Costco open
Speaker 1: and shut down the church. They kept Costco and shut
Speaker 1: down the church. So I finally said, okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do some crappyable webinar. So I got this vision.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna build this facility with twenty foot I led
Speaker 1: screens fifty feet wide all around me. I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: Eric you on at zoom when to get them from
Speaker 1: a thousand up to twenty five thousand people, so I
Speaker 1: could interact with people live in real time. When a
Speaker 1: build an app, so they can shake it, and the
Speaker 1: more people do it, the louder it gets, so it's real.
Speaker 1: So I built this whole thing. So now we're doing
Speaker 1: bigger events than ever in our entire history. But they
Speaker 1: did the same measurements on them in different parts of
Speaker 1: the world, and so the exact same mirroring process and
Speaker 1: the average person, Yeah, seventy one percent of the they
Speaker 1: had seventy one percent drop in negative emotions, fifty three
Speaker 1: percent improvement and positive emotions, and eleven months later, in
Speaker 1: the middle of COVID, it held because it's a biochemical change.
Speaker 1: So when people say, oh, I'm trying, I that's I
Speaker 1: write books because it's it's an easy entry point to people.
Speaker 1: There's so much you can learn from a book, but
Speaker 1: there's nothing like the experience. That's why I do the events,
Speaker 1: and like the last two years because of COVID, I
Speaker 1: did two, like six day three events. We had eight
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people at ten for six days just four
Speaker 1: weeks ago, because I just wanted people to have answers
Speaker 1: where they are. And then people start to see they
Speaker 1: get momentum. But it's hard to do just reading something
Speaker 1: or watching a couple of you know, you know, twenty
Speaker 1: minute or fifteen minute or five minute little pieces on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Those are great, they might inspire you, but a transformation
Speaker 1: requires immersion. It's like if you ask average person, did
Speaker 1: you study a foreign language in school? And most people, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: high school of college speak it. They don't. But if
Speaker 1: you turn around and you said, okay, what if you
Speaker 1: want to learn Italian and I just took you to
Speaker 1: Rome and dumped you off for six weeks with no teacher,
Speaker 1: you're gonna come back six weeks later, or speaking you
Speaker 1: know Italian. So it's immersion and if you want to
Speaker 1: master something. I think that's the thing most people don't do.
Speaker 1: They read a little bit, they listen little bit, They
Speaker 1: dip in and out. They don't go day and night,
Speaker 1: night and day in total immersion and something that transforms
Speaker 1: them and also something that makes them push through their fears. Yes,
Speaker 1: because in the end that's the only thing that stops
Speaker 1: with everybody's got a story. I didn't know this person.
Speaker 1: I don't have the resources they have, all the things
Speaker 1: they don't have. But if you're resourceful, you can get
Speaker 1: the money, you can get the time, you can get
Speaker 1: the energy, you can get anything you want. And you've
Speaker 1: got to get over your fear to be resourceful. So
Speaker 1: we do experiences that are so physiologically profound that those
Speaker 1: fears do not stop you anymore. And that's what that's
Speaker 1: how we get people to get you know, ten years later,
Speaker 1: they're still transformed from an experience that was one weekend.
Speaker 1: The fact that people are mirroring you. That That is
Speaker 1: mind blow. It is a screen too. Yeah. You know
Speaker 1: what's really cool about the screens is like, if you're
Speaker 1: in my seminar, you're in a giant stadium and I'm
Speaker 1: a dot. I mean, most people watching me on a
Speaker 1: screen anyway, right, unless you're in the front rows. And
Speaker 1: but you know, I can see your eyes and feel
Speaker 1: what's going on. I'm running around the building here, I
Speaker 1: can scan so many people and I see them in
Speaker 1: their home, I see them with your children. I see
Speaker 1: the interaction with their husband or their wife. I see
Speaker 1: what they're eating. You know, it's just it's I and
Speaker 1: I'm within twelve thirteen hours a day for three or
Speaker 1: four days. And we start here, for example, ten am
Speaker 1: and one hundred ninety five countries. So we got one
Speaker 1: for twenty five thousand people March seventeenth to the twentieth here,
Speaker 1: and we will have people in Australia starting at midnight
Speaker 1: well and going to one in the afternoon the ex
Speaker 1: day for four days, and people in Italy are doing
Speaker 1: a different times. So it's like we literally have the
Speaker 1: whole world engaged. So that's been the bussing of COVID
Speaker 1: It's like always tell people you use stress or stress
Speaker 1: us as you. Right, I had to figure out how
Speaker 1: to use COVID and I wanted to serve people. We
Speaker 1: found the way. But again, none of this happens you
Speaker 1: when I'm mout of energy, Yes, because your brain will
Speaker 1: just go, oh man, I've tried everything. Yeah, you Bill,
Speaker 1: get yourself. And I love. The thing I love about
Speaker 1: immersion and events or retreats is that you actually build friendships.
Speaker 1: Like the community. That's community for sure, the community of
Speaker 1: that accountability. If we're doing this together, we're running together,
Speaker 1: we're building together that there are people who think like
Speaker 1: me and look like me. I'm intrigued Tony, at this
Speaker 1: stage in your life, what do you look for in
Speaker 1: a friend? I mean a friend? Yeah, that's interesting question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most of my friends are people that are unbelievably driven
Speaker 1: to contribute. I mean, I think you know, if you
Speaker 1: want to extraordinary life, like you don't have to do
Speaker 1: that much to have a good life for yourself. So
Speaker 1: it's like most of us. If you find something you
Speaker 1: care about more than yourself, and I know you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Jay, and you want to serve
Speaker 1: something like you and I both. I think see what
Speaker 1: we do as a calling, it's a it's not a
Speaker 1: work per se as work. I don't need to work
Speaker 1: another day in my life, but I'm called, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think my friends are people that are called
Speaker 1: and my friends are people that are funny because I
Speaker 1: love to laugh, but they're just I love. I'm a
Speaker 1: kind of guy. I'm so easy. If I go to
Speaker 1: a movie and somebody sacrifices and does the right thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I cry my eyes out. It's just like
Speaker 1: I've done since I was a little boy. There's something
Speaker 1: inside me that just says, that's the goodness of the
Speaker 1: human spirit, you know. And so my friends are people
Speaker 1: that are made up of that basically. And I have
Speaker 1: friends that are incredibly successful, the best in the world
Speaker 1: if they do. I have a lot of friends that
Speaker 1: are eighteen years my senior, twenty years my senior, and
Speaker 1: I've known them since they were, you know, forty five,
Speaker 1: and now they're seventy five or eighty, and so they've
Speaker 1: given me kind of see the road ahead. Everybody's path
Speaker 1: is different, but the road of life changes, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm in a stage in my life
Speaker 1: now where I'm I'm able to mentor people at a
Speaker 1: different level, you know, just because I've had so many
Speaker 1: life experiences them to take it to history. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been there with Gorbachev at the point when he's
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what to do, or Princess Diana
Speaker 1: when she's deciding does she want to no longer be
Speaker 1: a princess? You know, I've had some wild experiences the
Speaker 1: greatest athletes in the world at key moments in their careers.
Speaker 1: So I've had these cool tickets to history which have
Speaker 1: put things in such a perspective that when stuff happens
Speaker 1: that upsets people, it's like, you know, I've compared to
Speaker 1: what it's like, you know, it's it's pretty simple compared
Speaker 1: to what most people happen to go through. So I
Speaker 1: felt really blessed. But I hope people in the book.
Speaker 1: One of the things I hope people pick up that
Speaker 1: you know, young people don't think about very much is testing.
Speaker 1: I was never personally kind of like you with your wife, right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this thing and then in order to perform,
Speaker 1: I've learned every iohack, but like I don't want to
Speaker 1: get in the the system to get measured but today there's
Speaker 1: some amazing tests. So like I used to be afraid
Speaker 1: of cancer, there's a brand new test. The one thing
Speaker 1: in common the book I should mentioned is I tell
Speaker 1: you all these stories of these amazing evenings that have
Speaker 1: created these breakthroughs, and what they all have in common,
Speaker 1: these huge breaks some of which took twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: years and are just now available, They all lost somebody.
Speaker 1: They lost a life, or a husband or a child,
Speaker 1: or a close patient, and it drove them not to
Speaker 1: accept the standard of care and find a new solution.
Speaker 1: And so one of those is this test called GRAIL.
Speaker 1: It's a simple blood test anybody can do now, just
Speaker 1: came out nine months ago, eight months ago, and it
Speaker 1: allows you to test your body for any cancer in
Speaker 1: your body. And is the why is that important? Because
Speaker 1: the National Cancer Institute did a study and they found
Speaker 1: that if you get diagnosed at stage two, three, or four,
Speaker 1: you have an eighty percent chance of dying. I prefer
Speaker 1: I have a twenty percent chance of living. And figuring
Speaker 1: that out, but their point is well made. It's hard
Speaker 1: to turn around. If you get a stage one or two,
Speaker 1: you have an eighty to nine nine point nine percent
Speaker 1: chance of living, so we're with cancer is going to
Speaker 1: affect most people in their lifetime. To be able to
Speaker 1: do a quick blood test or an MRI for those
Speaker 1: pieces and know exactly what's going your body is amazing.
Speaker 1: We had a doctor, a gentleman who came to one
Speaker 1: of our centers and he had already had its physical
Speaker 1: and his wife said, I want you to have the
Speaker 1: very best and he's like, I've already done. He had
Speaker 1: a really negative attitude bat it, which we understood, and
Speaker 1: one of the docs said, listen, let's do the Grail
Speaker 1: test on you. He'd already had your analysis, blood test,
Speaker 1: traditional physical and a guy end up having bladder cancer,
Speaker 1: but it was really early, so it was a twenty
Speaker 1: minute outpatient procedure. He has no cancer. If he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have caught it, you got a real problem. Another one
Speaker 1: is it's called a CCTA scan. It's brand new. It's
Speaker 1: one of my doctor friends and one of partners in
Speaker 1: one of my businesses called me up and he says
Speaker 1: Tony and he's like, mister understated. He built twelve hospitals
Speaker 1: and then he sold them because he wants to be
Speaker 1: in prevention and regeneration and he says Tony. There's been
Speaker 1: one of the greatest breakthroughs in cardiology that I've seen
Speaker 1: the last ten years. You got to come check it out.
Speaker 1: What is it? He goes When a doctor does a
Speaker 1: CT scan, usually don't get that unless you've got a problem.
Speaker 1: There's a lot. It's hard to read those scans. They're
Speaker 1: very gray. If your very skills still miss it. But
Speaker 1: there's this new scan now that uses AI and it
Speaker 1: literally opens every artery in your body because what they're
Speaker 1: looking for is soft plaques. Soft plaques can break off,
Speaker 1: and it's called the widow Maker. You give your heart
Speaker 1: attack or a stroke if you're and it happens to
Speaker 1: people now thirty five forty years old. It's happening younger
Speaker 1: and younger because the lifestyles that we've taken on. But
Speaker 1: what's interesting is hard and calcium, which is what they
Speaker 1: see when they do just a traditional it's healed. So
Speaker 1: I've heard about it that I'm gonna go do the scan,
Speaker 1: and I took my father in law with me because
Speaker 1: he's eighty years old, and you know people around you
Speaker 1: when you get older start saying you should organize your affairs.
Speaker 1: And I could just see his energy drop. He's a
Speaker 1: great guy. Anyway, I took him, did the scan. He's perfect.
Speaker 1: He's absolutely perfect, and his entire attitude change. Plus you know,
Speaker 1: we have the stuff we do for a lot of
Speaker 1: the great athletes think their careers over where they scan
Speaker 1: nary where you've had an injury, and they use ultrasound,
Speaker 1: and then they use this fluid avenue fluid and they
Speaker 1: open up the channels so that a nerve that's been
Speaker 1: trapped or some area heels or hals and minutes and
Speaker 1: so my father in law has also had this hip problem.
Speaker 1: If held this hip problem in thirty minutes, his heart's perfect.
Speaker 1: We get on the air, playing the way home and
Speaker 1: he looks at me. He goes, you know, Tony, these
Speaker 1: people talk about living one hundred, ten and or twenty.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but I could live another
Speaker 1: twenty years. I got a great heart, I got this
Speaker 1: great pony that he's like, and I'm walking perfectly. He goes,
Speaker 1: You've only been married my daughter twenty two years. That's
Speaker 1: like another lifetime, you know. And so what I love
Speaker 1: is what it does for people. And then and then
Speaker 1: the same thing with hormones. You know, when somewhere between
Speaker 1: thirty five and forty, sometimes early forties, hormones start to
Speaker 1: change radically. Women are more tuned to hormones, but they've
Speaker 1: learned hormone replacement therapy. But like I had a guy
Speaker 1: that came is thirty nine years old, gained like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think it was like thirty five thirty
Speaker 1: eight pounds or something like that, really working out hard,
Speaker 1: making no progress us lost his sense of drive. And
Speaker 1: we said, well, if you look at your hormones, he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: my doc, look at myr hormones. Mormons are fine. When
Speaker 1: we look at the blood test and his hormones, I
Speaker 1: think we're His testosterone was like one sixty. Most men
Speaker 1: don't feel alive, but unless they have seven to eight hundred,
Speaker 1: some as much as a thousand. So he doesn't need
Speaker 1: replacement technically to be alive, but to have his body functioning,
Speaker 1: and ideal was missing. So all he did a small
Speaker 1: amount of testosterone total transformation, loses weight, got his drive,
Speaker 1: got his libido back, got everything else back. So there's
Speaker 1: some little things you can do. There's metal tests. I
Speaker 1: had a really bad brad hit with mercury because I
Speaker 1: was a vegan. Then I felt like I needed some
Speaker 1: other form of protein. So I started eating fish. And
Speaker 1: all I had of a salad and fish old and fish,
Speaker 1: but I had tuna and swordfish are my favorites. Those
Speaker 1: are seventy five year old fish that eat all have
Speaker 1: a smaller fish, and we polluted the water so much
Speaker 1: now they're filled with mercury. And so I went to
Speaker 1: go get this set of tests and they tested me
Speaker 1: on a zero to five, where five is extremely concerning.
Speaker 1: I was one twenty three, and so I've spent the
Speaker 1: last four or five years getting that mercury out of
Speaker 1: my body. It literally was making It interrupts your ATP
Speaker 1: your energy level, Like if you start feeling foggy or
Speaker 1: exhausted or tired, it can be metals. And about one
Speaker 1: out of every three people and friends that they're twenty
Speaker 1: five years old, because of the environment in right now,
Speaker 1: they go and they discovered they've got cadmium, or they've
Speaker 1: got lead, or they've got mercury. So I really encourage
Speaker 1: people to go do that metals test if you're not
Speaker 1: feeling great. A lot of times when people think is aging,
Speaker 1: it's just metals, yes, And you can get them out
Speaker 1: of your system when they're small, and it's a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot easier than when I've gone through And
Speaker 1: it's always it's really interesting because you keep pushing, you
Speaker 1: can get lost in the fact that it's all in
Speaker 1: your head. Yeah, And the truth is it isn't always
Speaker 1: all in sysiological as well. Yeah. I had that recently
Speaker 1: where I was actually feeling fine, but I went and
Speaker 1: did I went and did a lot of micronutrient tests.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of other tests. I want to
Speaker 1: go and do a lot of the tests you just recommended.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna definitely ask you where I should go, but
Speaker 1: I want to did a basic vitamin detest. Right, I've
Speaker 1: been doing this since I was a kid. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I went and my doctor and my health coach is
Speaker 1: looking at the stats and everything, and she said to me,
Speaker 1: she said, Jay, you're at a ten. Wow, the average
Speaker 1: is sixty and hundred is good. She goes, she goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get out of bed in
Speaker 1: the morning. And I don't affect your hormones by the way, correct,
Speaker 1: Do three affect your hormones? Yeah? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I get out of bed just fine. And she couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that we can overcome a lot with your psychology, correct, right.
Speaker 1: I was doing the same thing with mercury in my body. Correct,
Speaker 1: But I was thinking, imagine if my body too, like,
Speaker 1: just imagine what would be possible. And I think that's
Speaker 1: why I love what you've done with this book, Life Force,
Speaker 1: because that's what it's pracing emphasis on. Go get tested,
Speaker 1: go check it out. I love how you use the
Speaker 1: language of coaches, not commanders. Yes, right, like we're not
Speaker 1: trying to You're not saying to anyone, this is exactly
Speaker 1: what to do, and this is how to do it.
Speaker 1: You're saying, please go and experiment with these things. Please
Speaker 1: don't practice them, implement them into your life. And I
Speaker 1: cannot wait to figure out how to implement all these
Speaker 1: things in my life because I think it's so easy
Speaker 1: to sit back when you're in your twenties, in your thirties, yes,
Speaker 1: and just go I'm okay right now, things are okay.
Speaker 1: I can pretty much get away with a bad night
Speaker 1: out of You know what else about this before from
Speaker 1: the subtitle says it it's for you and somebody you love. Yes,
Speaker 1: Because you're at the stage of life, you're in you're
Speaker 1: going to start finding more people, whether it be your
Speaker 1: parents or someone else's in a challenge. And so there's
Speaker 1: like whether it's like for me at this stage of
Speaker 1: my life. I know so many people don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Two times a month at least someone calls me and
Speaker 1: they have foundily Amber with cancer, or somebody's starting to
Speaker 1: develop Alzheimer's, or somebody out a stroke, And I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell to do before, right, because the
Speaker 1: standard of care is so weak in those areas. But
Speaker 1: here you've got answers that will blow your mind. Or
Speaker 1: you know, somebody with Parkinson's for example, like Grandma or
Speaker 1: somebody like that. There's this new technique it's unbelievable to
Speaker 1: use ultrasound. It's called incisionless brain surgery. They don't cut
Speaker 1: you open anyway. I saw this woman who's on fifteen medications.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen somebody Parkinson's, but they can't.
Speaker 1: They can't even hold a glass, they can't. She couldn't
Speaker 1: walk across the room. And it's an outpatient process. It's
Speaker 1: in a hundred universities, and it's covered by insurance. Now,
Speaker 1: this is how the whole unbelievable. This is and most
Speaker 1: people don't know about it. You go in. It takes
Speaker 1: about an hour to find the pinpoint spot that's creating
Speaker 1: the tremor. They treat it for thirty seconds. The woman
Speaker 1: comes out of the MRI right, and she gets the
Speaker 1: blocks cross the room and I'm watching her and then
Speaker 1: somebody hands are a glass and it doesn't hit her
Speaker 1: like at first. I don't know if you've ever seen
Speaker 1: somebody gets those audio implants and they hear for the
Speaker 1: first time, they cry. Well, they handed the glass and
Speaker 1: she can hold the glass. So she just started crying uncontrollably.
Speaker 1: That was two years ago. Two months ago, she did
Speaker 1: a fifty mile bike ride, right. I mean, it's that's
Speaker 1: the kind of tools and available. If you got osto.
Speaker 1: Someone's got osteouthritis, and even kids thirty five forty years old,
Speaker 1: the athletes can create some real challenges in their body.
Speaker 1: There there's a new injection. This is not approved yet.
Speaker 1: It's a phase three trials. So phase one is safety,
Speaker 1: then phase two is efficacy. In the phase three is efficacy,
Speaker 1: it's scale then you get approve. So it's in the
Speaker 1: final stage. They think it'll be approved either in the
Speaker 1: fall or spring of next year. One injection, they got osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1: It's causing your own stemseelves to regrow all your tendons
Speaker 1: based on the original DNA inputs. So it's like sixteen
Speaker 1: year old tendons even if you're thirty, forty, fifty or
Speaker 1: sixty years old, and no more else to rights Brandon
Speaker 1: tendons inside your body. So this kind of whirlwind right now.
Speaker 1: These are things that are happening right now that people
Speaker 1: just don't know about. And why don't we know about them?
Speaker 1: And why why is it that you had to go
Speaker 1: and diggle, Because it seems like what you've done is
Speaker 1: you mind and mind and gone to the very best
Speaker 1: to bring this to the full. Like all my billionaire friends,
Speaker 1: they all know this because they all want the cutting edge,
Speaker 1: right It's all I did is kind of took what
Speaker 1: I did with money Master to the game. That's how
Speaker 1: I got introduced since some of this and then I
Speaker 1: and also my own needs. I tore my rotator cuffs
Speaker 1: so severely. I was at a following a twenty two
Speaker 1: year old professional snowboarder down the hill, and I'm not
Speaker 1: a professional snowboarder. I could not make those moves. And
Speaker 1: literally when I woke up was unconscious. I thought I
Speaker 1: broke my neck. I ripped my rotator cuffs. So what
Speaker 1: do you do? I go to four different doctors. They
Speaker 1: all say surgery, surgery, or what's the prognosis? Well, you
Speaker 1: may not lift your arm above your shoulder again, good
Speaker 1: tear again? How long to repair? How long did rehab?
Speaker 1: Four to six months? I'm going to be on stage
Speaker 1: this with one arm over year. So I worked with
Speaker 1: a lot of grace of all time athletes, and Christian
Speaker 1: Ronaldo was supposed to be out for three months. He
Speaker 1: did stem cells. It took him two and a half weeks.
Speaker 1: So I was like, what about stem No, No, they
Speaker 1: don't work. They don't work. And then it's like I
Speaker 1: have the final doc literally looked me in the face
Speaker 1: and he was a fan of my work. I didn't
Speaker 1: know going there. And he's like, oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: the Tony Robbins. He goes on and all you saved
Speaker 1: my marriage and made me all this money. Da da da,
Speaker 1: And he goes, thanks for hearing that, but now I
Speaker 1: gotta be your doctor, and he puts my spine up
Speaker 1: and he goes life as you know it is over.
Speaker 1: Literally when he said to me, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: you clearly didn't go to my communications. And he's like,
Speaker 1: this is not funny. Don't make a joke. This is real.
Speaker 1: And he goes, you know you have severe spinal snowsis
Speaker 1: I'm in paying for fourteen years and he goes, one
Speaker 1: good hit and you're quite to pleagate. No more jumping,
Speaker 1: no more running, no more life, and like, if you're
Speaker 1: hitting the stomach and you're ready for it, I wasn't
Speaker 1: ready for it. I gotta be honest. There's two hours
Speaker 1: and my feeling like my life was over. And then
Speaker 1: I got my head backed and then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check out stem cells. And I met Bob Perrari, well,
Speaker 1: the top guys in the world. He told me where
Speaker 1: to go in the United States the ones I needed.
Speaker 1: You know, for your elbow, your knee, your own stem
Speaker 1: cells might work, but if you're doing a shoulder in
Speaker 1: a back or something, you need something more powerful. And
Speaker 1: he said, you need four day old stemselves. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't want you know, something that comes some baby
Speaker 1: goes no, no, no, no, he goes, when babies are born,
Speaker 1: the cord is filled with this, and the placentis filled
Speaker 1: with these. And so I went and did four days
Speaker 1: of treatment, just an hour a day of an ivy
Speaker 1: and a shot. First day, I felt, you know, sleepy.
Speaker 1: Second day, I had a cytokine response. I wasn't scared
Speaker 1: and knew it was kind of shaking, freezing for twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: But then I woke up the next morning and not
Speaker 1: only was my shoulder program memory on my shoulder, you
Speaker 1: wudn't even believe it, no downtime, no surgery, but my
Speaker 1: spinal stenosis is gone. I got no pain in my
Speaker 1: spine and I've had that for fourteen years. So it's
Speaker 1: like that made me. That's why I wrote this book.
Speaker 1: I became obsessed. Then the Pope invited me to come speak.
Speaker 1: He the Pope puts on the biggest Regina of conference
Speaker 1: every two years, and they wanted me to be the
Speaker 1: cleanup speaker. I'm like, I'll do that, but I want
Speaker 1: to go through all four days. And then I met
Speaker 1: all these people h were sent home to die with cancer,
Speaker 1: who'd been turned around, you know, stage four cancer because
Speaker 1: they some of the techniques in this book. I met
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas, the greatest golfer of all time. He couldn't
Speaker 1: stand for more than ten minutes the pain was so bad.
Speaker 1: And now he's he did was supposed to have a
Speaker 1: spinal fusion, which he did not do, thank God, and
Speaker 1: he did stem cells and now he's eighty two playing
Speaker 1: golf and tennis again. So I was like, I became
Speaker 1: an evangelist, and then I just went said I want
Speaker 1: to learn the best of everything, and I learned it
Speaker 1: was much more than stem cells. It's this just like
Speaker 1: you see technology doubling in power every eighteen months and
Speaker 1: having a cost. We are code now, so most people
Speaker 1: have heard Crisper. I mean, we're literally curing diseases that
Speaker 1: would ever been cured in history before. And we're at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the beginning of that growth curve. So
Speaker 1: it's only up from here and the opportunities are extraordinary.
Speaker 1: But you can think of yourself, but you can also
Speaker 1: think of people you love who might need your help,
Speaker 1: and now you'll have answers. Definitely. I'm so grateful, are
Speaker 1: you Pizza and Robert for putting this book together? Because
Speaker 1: like I said, I just dived into it and eat
Speaker 1: inde chapter and it's just so comprehensive dnse. It's got
Speaker 1: every study and resets that you need to convince you
Speaker 1: that it's out there and now. And I love what
Speaker 1: you just added to what I was saying that we
Speaker 1: need to go use it for the people we love.
Speaker 1: If it's not for us, let's go use it for them,
Speaker 1: and then one day, because you helped everybody else, that
Speaker 1: will be there for you exactly turn it. You've been
Speaker 1: so generous with your time. Thank you. I've enjoyed it
Speaker 1: with you very much, generous with your energy, and of
Speaker 1: course in doing all the work and putting this book together,
Speaker 1: you can tell that I'm writing my second book right now,
Speaker 1: and I can tell that when you see a book
Speaker 1: that is this well recess and this deeply done, you
Speaker 1: know that a lot of work has gone into that.
Speaker 1: So I want to recommend we're going to put this
Speaker 1: in the link, in the caption, in the comment section,
Speaker 1: everywhere the link to this book. I know that it's
Speaker 1: already been an incredible international best selling book all over
Speaker 1: the world. So if you haven't already got it, I
Speaker 1: highly recommend you go and get it. Get it for
Speaker 1: a friend, to get it for a family member, get
Speaker 1: it to give it to someone as well if you
Speaker 1: know that they need this right now, and of course
Speaker 1: get it for yourself. And we're doing I'm doing a
Speaker 1: percent of the profits in this book, as I've done
Speaker 1: all free of my books, last three books to feeding America.
Speaker 1: The story feeding twenty million meals there and so sides
Speaker 1: helping yourself, you're up at other people. And then the
Speaker 1: balance is going for Alzheimer's cancer and heart disease research
Speaker 1: from three of the best researchers in the world. So
Speaker 1: hopefully the book only changes your life, but it will
Speaker 1: also help other people to Yeah, that's phenomenal. So you're
Speaker 1: contributing as well as Yeah, which is absolutely beautiful. No
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying the audience gets to contribute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you simply by even buying the books. Even buying the
Speaker 1: book is contributing. It's true, Tony. We end every on
Speaker 1: Purpose interview with the final five. These are five questions
Speaker 1: that are aimed at usually one word to one sentence answers. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to do it with you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do that with you.
Speaker 1: I'm want to break the rules. I'm like, why am
Speaker 1: I going to restrict your greatness to that anyway. So
Speaker 1: here we go. These are your final five. We can
Speaker 1: totally go off piece. I do know it. I don't
Speaker 1: care to all right. Question number one is what is
Speaker 1: the best advice you've ever received? I think for me,
Speaker 1: my original teacher was Jim Rowne when I met him
Speaker 1: when I was seventeen and I wanted to know why
Speaker 1: all my fathers were broke, because they were good men.
Speaker 1: You know, I loved all four of my fathers. And
Speaker 1: I remember him saying, Tony, we're all equal as souls,
Speaker 1: but we're not equal in the marketplace. I was like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? And he said, well, think about it.
Speaker 1: He goes, you need to become more valuable if you
Speaker 1: want to have economic freedom. He said, you have to
Speaker 1: work on yourself more than anything else, and you have
Speaker 1: to work on in a way where there's something you
Speaker 1: can do for others better than anyone else, or at
Speaker 1: least more at better quality. And he gave me an
Speaker 1: example of like working at McDonald's, and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: if you work at McDonald's, you know, you make whatever
Speaker 1: it was in those days, five dollars an hour or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. And he said, you know, I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that seems so unfair, and he goes, yeah, and teachers.
Speaker 1: I gave example of teachers, and there's these billionaires, you know,
Speaker 1: they make a billion dollars in a year. Heads one
Speaker 1: guy you know, And he said, Tony, the guy you
Speaker 1: just mentioned, he provided a forty percent return last year
Speaker 1: and that went to nonprofits everything else. He said, that
Speaker 1: means those organizations double their money almost every two years.
Speaker 1: He is adding massive value, hundreds of billion dollars. So
Speaker 1: they made a billion. He goes, this person is doing
Speaker 1: a job that anyone can learn in twenty minutes or
Speaker 1: half a day, so it's a beginning job. He said,
Speaker 1: you've got You've got to think of it as one thing.
Speaker 1: It's all about adding value. How can you do more
Speaker 1: for others than anybody else in the world. And that
Speaker 1: stuck with me. I mean, I was just like, I've
Speaker 1: decided I wanted to do more for others than anybody
Speaker 1: in the world. In order to do that, I had
Speaker 1: have certain skills, and I went after those skills. And
Speaker 1: I still do. Like it's a never ending thing. If
Speaker 1: you think you're a master, you're full of it, right,
Speaker 1: So I think that's probably some of the best advice
Speaker 1: I've received, at least on life and business and direction,
Speaker 1: and it affected my mission. Yeah, that's great. Second question,
Speaker 1: what's the worst piece of advice you've ever had You've
Speaker 1: ever heard, not received, maybe received though, Oh my god. Well,
Speaker 1: I've had lots of piece of advice about what they
Speaker 1: do my body, which you would have, you know, like
Speaker 1: like the really sweet man, like sincere man, and I
Speaker 1: realized that people can be sincere and be sincerely wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like if I would have taken that drug, you know,
Speaker 1: I probably would have had cancer. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I try not to listen to or forget the advice
Speaker 1: isn't too good. I think anybody who advises you to
Speaker 1: give up is the wrong. That's probably the worst advice
Speaker 1: of all, because anything that you persist in long enough
Speaker 1: you can find the answer too, I believe. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: based on that also, the first piece of advice you
Speaker 1: go on your health is not always the right people.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned this. The Male Clinic did a
Speaker 1: study in twenty seventeen. They took two hundred eighty six
Speaker 1: patients with various diagnosis, and they took the first diagnosis,
Speaker 1: and then they had a second doctor to a diagnosis.
Speaker 1: Only twelve percent of the time did they match. It
Speaker 1: means eighty eight percent of the time the first diagnosis
Speaker 1: and the second were different. As a result, the Mayo
Speaker 1: Clinic says you should always get a second opinion, and
Speaker 1: they believe getting a second or even a third one
Speaker 1: refines the diagnosis and makes it better because everyone's working
Speaker 1: through their perceptions. It's not we think if medicine is
Speaker 1: like black and white, you know it's right, it's wrong,
Speaker 1: and it's there's a lot of art in medicine, and
Speaker 1: people don't realize that, and that's why the standard of
Speaker 1: care doesn't always get the result they want. That's why
Speaker 1: these breakthrough doctors beyond the standard of care. They were attacked,
Speaker 1: some of them beginning like there's a man named doctor
Speaker 1: June and they created these cart cells and I think
Speaker 1: it's nature just did a publication ten years later. There's
Speaker 1: still you know, in cancer they never call it a cure,
Speaker 1: actually calling it a cure for the first time for
Speaker 1: liquid you know, like like leukemian things like liquid cancers,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's amazing. So you've got to understand
Speaker 1: that there's more than one opinion, and you don't give
Speaker 1: up too Leasley with just one. Yeah, and that blacks
Speaker 1: to life too in so many things. Like you said,
Speaker 1: I always say, it's like if it's if it's about
Speaker 1: your health, and it's about your relationships, it's about raising
Speaker 1: your children, if it's about your spiritual development. Those are
Speaker 1: areas where people should be your coach, not your commander. Yes,
Speaker 1: get lots of input and you decide because they could
Speaker 1: be sincere to be sincerely wrong. If you're wrong, at
Speaker 1: least you learn from your own experience. Absolutely. Question number three,
Speaker 1: what's something you think the majority of people value but
Speaker 1: you don't value fame? But you know it's easy when
Speaker 1: you have something, then it's like easy ago. Everybody wants it,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's like when you explain when did
Speaker 1: that happened? Was there ever a time you valued fame
Speaker 1: or or was it the experience of it that made
Speaker 1: you devalue it a little? I wouldn't say a d value.
Speaker 1: I still appreciate it's it's a privilege like I got,
Speaker 1: you know, I can walk in the room and have
Speaker 1: people that I have a connection with, you know. But
Speaker 1: it's been more based on my contribution to them than
Speaker 1: just being famous per ye. Yeah, okay, that's the difference.
Speaker 1: You like all of my friends and in the movie business,
Speaker 1: like somebody comes up and they get upset because they
Speaker 1: go they don't even know who I am. They just
Speaker 1: want something from me, and mine is it's a privilege
Speaker 1: if if somebody can be lit up by your presence,
Speaker 1: to me, it's a privilege. So but I think, I
Speaker 1: think I never I was never pursuing fame. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I certainly wanted financial freedom because I grew
Speaker 1: up without it for my family, But I never I
Speaker 1: was never looking to be wealthy. Um. But I'm fortunate
Speaker 1: enough to have a lot of economic freedom at this stage. So,
Speaker 1: but I know that there are people that have got
Speaker 1: billions of dollars. I've worked with them, and they're miserable
Speaker 1: people that billion dollars and they take their own life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what matters is where's your emotional home? Now?
Speaker 1: Where do you live emotionally? If you're worth a billion
Speaker 1: dollars and every day you're pissed off and frustrated, your
Speaker 1: life is pissed off and frustrated. If you've got three
Speaker 1: beautiful children or a beautiful husband or wife and all
Speaker 1: this love in your life, but you're worried all the time.
Speaker 1: You don't feel the love. You're worried. So my thing
Speaker 1: is valuing the emotional home and making it the richest
Speaker 1: place possible inside, because that's the only thing you can control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you reminded me. I was with one of my clients
Speaker 1: who gets recognized a hundred times for every one time
Speaker 1: I would get recognized, and you'd get stopped every two
Speaker 1: seconds if someone take a picture, maybe someone comes shake
Speaker 1: my hand and talk to me, and we spend a
Speaker 1: whole day together. And this would happen multiple times a
Speaker 1: day for him and a few times for me. And
Speaker 1: he said something really beautiful with me that that mirrors
Speaker 1: what you've just said. Now. He said to me, said, Jay,
Speaker 1: the difference between me getting stopped and you getting stopped
Speaker 1: is they stop me for who I play in the
Speaker 1: movies because they stop you for who you are. That's right,
Speaker 1: and that's what I feel with you. It's like what
Speaker 1: you were saying, though, It's like that is a privilege
Speaker 1: and privilege and humbles me because it's the idea of yeah,
Speaker 1: like that person, he's like, they don't even know who
Speaker 1: I am. They don't know what I stand for, they
Speaker 1: don't know what I care about. So that was yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that. Thank you all right. Question
Speaker 1: number four is if you could create one law that
Speaker 1: everyone in the world had to follow, what would it
Speaker 1: be love? I mean, I mean the answer right, it
Speaker 1: really is. I think fear is what you know, if
Speaker 1: there's a disease of humanity. The disease that messes is up,
Speaker 1: I think really is selfishness. Yeah. And I think if
Speaker 1: there's a cure, it's love. Yeah. And I think you
Speaker 1: can't mandate it, but when people experience it, it becomes
Speaker 1: a mandate in their life, you know. I love that absolutely.
Speaker 1: And fifth and final question, you mentioned a book to
Speaker 1: me that I must read, and you said you wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about in the podcast too, So fifteen final question,
Speaker 1: I thought maybe i'd let you share on that point
Speaker 1: if you want to. Cycles that was about it. I
Speaker 1: think it came out in the early nineties. It's called
Speaker 1: The Fourth Turning, and it's it has. The conceit of
Speaker 1: the book is that there are seasons in history. And
Speaker 1: as I mentioned to you earlier, if you think about,
Speaker 1: like what gives somebody power in any context. It's three things.
Speaker 1: It's pattern recognition. So if I'm great at running businesses,
Speaker 1: as I am today, pretty good at it. It's like
Speaker 1: I recognize there's only so many patterns. I know what
Speaker 1: to do. I can anticipate and not react. I can
Speaker 1: grow it. If you're great in let's say the stock market,
Speaker 1: you know and recognize patterns. If you're great with music
Speaker 1: in case patterns. If you're great, spiritually recognize patterns. But
Speaker 1: the second skill is you don't just recognize him, you
Speaker 1: can use them. And the third skill is when you've
Speaker 1: recognized and used enough patterns, you start to create them.
Speaker 1: And that's a different dimension of what's going on. So
Speaker 1: in this book you really start to see that humanity
Speaker 1: changed when we recognize the pattern of the seasons. As
Speaker 1: soon as we understood seasons, we didn't have to be
Speaker 1: wandering through the desert anymore searching for things. We could
Speaker 1: stay and we could grow crops because we found out
Speaker 1: if you plant in the winter, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: hard you work, nothing happens. But when you know the
Speaker 1: right time to plant, when you don't have to do
Speaker 1: the right thing at the right time, then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden humanity grew into communities and cities and states
Speaker 1: and everything else. Well, we have also seasons of our life.
Speaker 1: So you know, in you know, some of the traditional
Speaker 1: let's say Indian philosophies, I'm sure you know, we can
Speaker 1: look at these four stages, but we can look at
Speaker 1: it and say, first twenty years of your life, roughly,
Speaker 1: you're primarily learning and taking things in some of us
Speaker 1: how to work at five years old and so forth,
Speaker 1: and overall, that's how it is. From twenty to forty.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not springtime summer. You're figuring out who
Speaker 1: you are. Okay, they told me all this crap, and
Speaker 1: nobody tested. Do I really believe that? Does it really work?
Speaker 1: I now have real relationships. I think I'm invincible. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm not. I've discover twenty to forty is this massive
Speaker 1: growth period in your life. And if you grow during
Speaker 1: that time, forty to sixty is really a reaping time, right.
Speaker 1: It's like the fall and the autumn and things come
Speaker 1: together and things go great. And then from sixty to
Speaker 1: eighty and maybe eighty on, if you have an extended winter,
Speaker 1: that's the winter time where now you get to be
Speaker 1: kind of an elder so everyone is going to hit
Speaker 1: winter if they live long enough, meaning some people experienced
Speaker 1: winter in that zero to twenty stage, some people twenty
Speaker 1: to forty. When you experience it shapes your life a lot.
Speaker 1: So in America, the generation we call the greatest generation
Speaker 1: is the generation of World War Two, and they were
Speaker 1: not respected as young people. I bring this up because
Speaker 1: millennials older people very often look at millennials and go, oh,
Speaker 1: there's snowflakes. They can't handle anything, and some are. In
Speaker 1: every generation there are people like that. But the generation
Speaker 1: was born, let's say in nineteen ten. That generation, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, they came of age going to
Speaker 1: that twenty year old range. What happened in those twenty years, Well,
Speaker 1: World War One ended in America was one of the winners,
Speaker 1: and then there was the Roaring twenties and new technology
Speaker 1: and cars and parties and all this abundance. It was everywhere.
Speaker 1: So they grew up thinking that's what their life was
Speaker 1: going to be like. And at nineteen years old at
Speaker 1: the morn in nineteen ten, it was nineteen twenty nine,
Speaker 1: and the whole world around the world, people jumping out
Speaker 1: of buildings, the dust bowl in the the middle of place,
Speaker 1: jobs lost. I mean it was intense, and they were
Speaker 1: called flappers. They were not respected. They were just party years.
Speaker 1: They didn't give a damn about anything. They had no responsibility,
Speaker 1: and suddenly life hit them and they grew. They had to,
Speaker 1: and they went through ten years of bad depression only
Speaker 1: to make it to twenty nine years old when it's
Speaker 1: now nineteen thirty nine and World War two breaks out
Speaker 1: and you and I weren't alive in, but anybody alive
Speaker 1: in will tell you Hitler was winning. Countries were dropping in,
Speaker 1: your country in London was being bombed. I mean, it
Speaker 1: did not look like we were going to win. It
Speaker 1: was dark, right, And they made it through that went over,
Speaker 1: fought the war and won. So they have this stage
Speaker 1: of their life from twenty to forty which was a
Speaker 1: horrendous experience, but it made them so strong and they
Speaker 1: came back heroes and they started the next springtime because
Speaker 1: that was winter, right, So next springtime was the late forties,
Speaker 1: after World War Two, through the nineteen fifties, early sixties
Speaker 1: until Kennedy was shot. That kind of eighteen twenty year
Speaker 1: period was a period of great prosperity and growth and
Speaker 1: everything's easy and then you have a summer, which is
Speaker 1: always internal conflict. And you can see this in a
Speaker 1: thousand years of Roman history. Every eighteen hundred years he
Speaker 1: seem the same patterns. And then after that you have
Speaker 1: another fall where finances flow, stock markets rise, everything blows again.
Speaker 1: This happens over and over and over again through history,
Speaker 1: so when you see it, it gives you a perspective.
Speaker 1: And so we're in winter right now. We've been in
Speaker 1: winter since about two thousand and eight, and we're not done.
Speaker 1: We probably got another six if history shows, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's repetitive, it's not exact. Yeah, there's probably another
Speaker 1: seven or eight years of this. And what happens in
Speaker 1: winter is the external world gets The last winter was
Speaker 1: World War Two, and the external world is reformed. Different
Speaker 1: countries relate in a different way. You know, a new
Speaker 1: reserve currency happen in the United States became the dominant force.
Speaker 1: Now you're dealing with China. We're seeing the challenges happening
Speaker 1: in Russia, in the Ukraine. We're seeing things all over
Speaker 1: the world. People are looking at life differently. People are
Speaker 1: worried about whether planet's going to survive or not. Global warming,
Speaker 1: and so there's going to be a lot more turmoil.
Speaker 1: There's the internal turmoil within most countries, include the United States.
Speaker 1: But when I try to tell people that holpefully helps
Speaker 1: them is winter does not last forever. No pandemic has
Speaker 1: lasted forever, No wars lasted forever. And what's next to springtime?
Speaker 1: If you were God, when you work it out that way,
Speaker 1: after the vicious night, you have this beautiful day after
Speaker 1: the tough winter, there's this nice springtime. So the goal
Speaker 1: right now is gets strong in winter, not to fold too.
Speaker 1: If you can be strong in this season in your business,
Speaker 1: in your life, then when springtime comes, it's a piece
Speaker 1: of cake. And if you do well in business during
Speaker 1: this time. If you look at the fourtune, one thousand
Speaker 1: sixty five percent of them were born in a winter,
Speaker 1: in a depression or a recession, whether it's Exon or
Speaker 1: it's Disney and depressions, or whether it's Pizza Hut a
Speaker 1: Federal Express that was done in recession, or Apple or
Speaker 1: Microsoft in a recession. So if you do well, then
Speaker 1: you tend to do well through time. And so this
Speaker 1: is a time you know, not to say, oh it's winter,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna freeze. The death it's like, no, it's a
Speaker 1: time to learn. Row expands from time with your family, snowboard,
Speaker 1: you know, take advantage of the season and don't think
Speaker 1: the season is forever. And if you if you read
Speaker 1: a book like this, it's a book that like some
Speaker 1: of the greatest leaders I know have all read this
Speaker 1: book I got. They also read a book called Generations.
Speaker 1: It's about five hundred and fifty pages of Anglo American
Speaker 1: history and it shows how each generation affects it. So
Speaker 1: what you start seeing is there's patterns here, there's patterns
Speaker 1: in history. This isn't forever. How do I use what's
Speaker 1: in front of me instead of freaking out and saying,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the whole world's coming to an end,
Speaker 1: because it looks like that when the dark night of
Speaker 1: the winter happens, of the dark Knight of the soul. Yeah, Tony,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you everyone. Tony Robin's Life Force.
Speaker 1: The books available right now. We're gonna put the link
Speaker 1: in the captions the comments everywhere. Highly recommend that you
Speaker 1: go and grab this book. It will not disappoint. And
Speaker 1: as you heard today, we've just skimmed the surface on
Speaker 1: the level of insight on wisdom that exists within this book.
Speaker 1: Please please please go and grab a callpee Tony. I
Speaker 1: want to thank you from the bottom of my pleasure.
Speaker 1: This incredible on a thank you have you have me
Speaker 1: in your home and this is the first of many
Speaker 1: many meetings, but thank you so much. I'm so grateful,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much.