1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Filling in for Dan Obviously, I feel like 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: I do this every Monday after the draft, joined now 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: by Mike Renner, who does an unbelievable job for Pro 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Football Focus. A lot to get to as it relates 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: to the draft. Although Mike, I gotta start, which is 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: always great by the way, for the people listening on 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, I gotta start with Mike sweatshirt. Because 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Mike sweatshirt. This is a key question, 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: like were you painting over the weekend? Is that real 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: paint or is that like are you just fashionable? And 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing now, is you wear a sweatshirt that 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: makes it look like you were painting. It was purchased 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: with said paint already on. I am not a handyman 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: by any means, so this was it was a fashion statement, 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: am I? Then? So that's like the style and that 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: Mike hell old are you? Yes? I am thirty two 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: years old. I just turned third too, okay, because I 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: feel like if that's the style, then man, I am 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: out of style. That's amazing. So you went to the 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: store and you're like, I could get the fake paint 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: sweatshirt or the non painted sweatshirt, and you went with 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: the fake paint sweatshirt. Correct, It's gotten a lot of love. Actually, 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: it's a very polarizing piece, but it's very comfortable. It's 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: one of my faces. Should we be asking Mike for 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: his opinion on anything else for the rest of the segment? Yes, seton. 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I just feel the need. I like his sweatshirt. I 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: think it looks good, it looks awesome. It looks like 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: you know what, it looks like my buddy in college 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: who was a roofer and like everything he wore like 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: had like paint on it and stuff like. You look 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: like a man's man, Mike. You don't look like a 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: guy that sits in an office and evaluates tape all day. Well, 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: that's what I'm going for. I want to surprise people 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: with that. All right, So a lot to get into here. 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with draft grades, because I was saying earlier, 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: not a big fan of the people that say you 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: can't do draft grades for three years? Dude, how do 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: you look at it? Is it just the players they got? 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Is it the strategy? Is it? You know? How well 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: they did? Was what they had to work with? How 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: do you guys evaluate over a pro football focus. Yes, 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: it's what you had to work with because we actually 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: went you go back and look at like draft grades 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: and the teams that had two first round picks, like 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: no one gets lower than a B plus in those 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, they got they got a bunch 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: of really good players, like of course they were going 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: to they had two first round picks. So for us, 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: like we gave the Giants a lower grade than probably 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: I think we gave them the lowest grade of anyone 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: because five and seven were always going to be good players. 53 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, like five and seven were no brainer picks, 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: so you can't give them credit for that they had 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: picks five and seven because they sucked last year. So 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: to me, the draft grade has to be the decisions 57 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: that went into the picks. So if you know, maybe 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: you didn't have a top hundred pick, you could still 59 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: get an A if they were good decisions that you made. 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: So that's how we do our draft grades at PFF. 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Such a great point because I have not seen the 62 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Jets get anything other than A plus anywhere. They had 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: three first round picks and four of the first thirty six, 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: Like I mean if they didn't get and they got 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: name guys that were ranked number one of their position, whatever, 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: if they didn't get good players and they should fail. Yeah, exactly, 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: And that's too much a draft analysis. You got to 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: actually dig into these picks. Okay, So then I was 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: saying this earlier. We just mentioned the Tyrn Matthew news 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: with the New Orleans Saints. Looks like he's gonna sign there. 71 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: But in terms of what they had to work with, 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: do you take into account how much like the Saints 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: gave up to get Chris Olave, like the trade with 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles, then the trade with the Commanders, it's like 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: five or six picks for Chris Olave. Mike, Yes, we 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: definitely took that. That's all. We gave him a C plus, 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: which is probably one of the lower people out there 78 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: getting grades. But it was this year's first round pick, 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: two third round picks this year, a fourth round pick, 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: next year's first round pick, and a twenty twenty four 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: second round pick. That is what it costs you for 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: one Chris Olabe. And that's not even like I love 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Chris Olavia. I think he's going to be a great player, 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: and it's perfect for that offense. But there are there 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: have been safe quote unquote safe picks who have not 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: worked out in the NFL. So to be the head 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: give up that much for one guy is to me, 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: you can't give that a good grade because of so 89 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: many opportunity costs missed. Is there a team that we're 90 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: not talking about that you really liked or really didn't like. 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: It seems like everybody's talking about the same teams. Give 92 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: me someone that you guys really liked or really didn't 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: like that maybe isn't getting as much attention. That's good. 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: I really like the Cowboys draft. I don't think a 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: lot of people have really loved it. You know, Jerry 96 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Jones had to go out and show his draft board 97 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: to justify their first round pit But I think they 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: got three starters at three very valuable positions at tackle, 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: edge rusher, and wide receiver with their first three pick, 100 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: and then they had one the best day threes of anyone. 101 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: I think their fifth round picks all have a role 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: on this roster. And Damon Clark in the fifth round, 103 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: he's obviously I'm gonna play as a rookie with the 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: next views and surgery, But if he doesn't have that 105 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: if you can just you know, throw that first year 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: out of the the season, which you do for a lot 107 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: of rookies. Anyways, he's a top you know, seventy player 108 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: in this class at the linebacker position that they got 109 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: on one seventy six. So I think the Cowboys had 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: a very underrated, least good draft. Talking with Mike Renner, 111 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: he's the lead draft analyst for Pro Football Focus and 112 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: co host of Tailgate, which sounds amazing, sounds like a 113 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: show I should be on. Speaking of beer and food, 114 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: Let's get into some of these quarterbacks, because I'm really curious, Mike, 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: how much work you do work in the offseason, right, 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: like you evaluate the kids coming into the year. A 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: lot of people I really respect had a first round 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: grade on Sam Howe coming into the year. He went 119 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: in the fifth round. Mike wasn't injured. How does that happen? 120 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: How do you guys, and maybe you're gonna tell me 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: you didn't, but how do you watch the video of 122 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: him in freshman sophomore year, Say he's a first round pick, 123 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: he plays a whole season, and then he's a fifth 124 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: round pick. How does that happen? Because it wasn't you 125 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: didn't fall there because of this tape. Now, the tape 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: wasn't good this year, but even still it was not 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: fifth round tape. He fell there because of his interviews 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: from all that I've heard, was not good on a whiteboard, 129 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: was not good with protections, blitz recognition, those sort of 130 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: things just did not impress anyone. And I think a 131 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks fell just because there weren't a 132 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: lot of landing spots. You know, there weren't many teams. Really, 133 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: if you're drafting a guy with a top fifty pick, 134 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: you're putting him in that start a conversation or at 135 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: least to challenge your starter, and no one was really 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: willing to do that. And so when you have a 137 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: guy who's as far behind the learning curve as Sam 138 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Holle was reportedly what I've heard, I just think teams 139 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: were willing to go elsewhere. Even though that, like the 140 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: Softmore tape was great, it was first round tape, and 141 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: that was you know, none of these other guys are 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: putting up near what he did as a true sophomore 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. So I still was a fan of his. 144 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I would have taken him before you know, any of 145 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: those guys A lot of those guys that went in 146 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the third round to where I think the Washington commanders 147 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: where they got him have to be really really happy. 148 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: That's really interesting, Mike. I had not heard that about 149 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Sam Howe on the interview process. I did see some 150 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: reports of some concerns about erratic behavior from Matt Corrall. 151 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: I think Ian Rappaport said that during the draft, what 152 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: about Malik Willis? I mean, you know, these are the 153 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: times where I almost feel like, Mike, we're being lied to. 154 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, so many people said, oh, the talent, the upside, 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, top ten pick, top twenty pick. Then he 156 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: doesn't go till the third round. Was he was that 157 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: a team meeting thing as well? Or were we lied to? Like? 158 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: How does that happen? That one is the one I 159 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: can't explain. I think he's he is talent. There's there's 160 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. You flip on his tape for 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: five plays and you'll see a cannon of an arm. 162 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: You'll see elite rushing ability. He's probably the second best 163 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: runner at the quarterback position in the NFL right now. 164 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: And the biggest thing with him, though, is the learning 165 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: curve is just literally the offense he played in is 166 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: not going to have anything to do with the offense 167 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: he plays in at the NFL. Just nothing similar whatsoever. 168 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: They're at liberty, so the learning curve, so if you're 169 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: taking them high, you're probably waiting two to three years 170 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: for him to even see the football field. And then 171 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: the offense he's going to have to run. So it's 172 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: not like Jalen Hurts in that manner, who you know 173 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: is going to be able to hit the field quickly 174 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: despite maybe having limited physical tools, who's also you know, 175 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: a runner at the position. But then once he does 176 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: hit the league, once he does start, the offense he's 177 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: going to run is going to look like maybe a 178 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: couple offenses around the NFL. It's gonna look like what 179 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens do with Lamar Jackson. Because if you're not 180 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: taking of that, you're doing it wrong. He can't just 181 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: come in and say you're you know, it's even the 182 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Titans where he went and do the exact same thing 183 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna do with Ryan Tannehill. It's gonna have to 184 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: be unique to him, and not a lot of teams 185 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: are willing to do that for a backup. Have a 186 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: special package of plays have a special offense just for 187 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: their backup to come in. So I think that was 188 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: the biggest. If I'm gonna pinpoint any reason he fell, 189 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: it would be that Mike last one. What about the 190 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three draft, because I saw where you just 191 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: dropped your mock draft, which, by the way, some people 192 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: get real upset about. I love it. I think it's 193 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: amazing to me. But you can't do that. It's way 194 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: too early. It ruins kids dreams, it ruins everything. Like again, 195 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: another person I don't want to invite to my beer 196 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: punk tournament ever is that person. But you just released 197 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: your twenty twenty three mock draft, which is obviously very early. 198 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: What who stands out to you? What stands out to 199 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: you about the draft in general? And then what quarterbacks? 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: Are you pretty confident we'll going round one? Yeah? I 201 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: hate the people that think I'm hyping these guys up 202 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: too much by putting in the first round. Is if 203 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: like all these guys haven't had their ego stroke, haven't 204 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: been five star recruits of their ego strokes that they're 205 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: like sixteen years old, I think I think they've had 206 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: enough by now that one more mock draft isn't going 207 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: to push them over the edge. But I will say 208 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback class is better next year, and I think 209 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: that played a factor in a lot of these runs, 210 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: whether it was the Seahawks passing on quarterback where there 211 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: was the Falcons waiting till a third round, the Lions, 212 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: like some of these teams that were should have everyone 213 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: thought would be in the mix. I think next year 214 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: is going to be the year they go up and 215 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: get their quarterbacks because you know, with multiple first round 216 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: or some of those teams had the firepower to go 217 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: up and get one. So it's a good quarterback class. 218 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: And I really like this defensive tackle class after some 219 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: week DT classes the last two years. We got some 220 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: studs coming in twenty three. Jalen Carter from Georgia, highest 221 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: pass rushing great of any Georgia defender last year with 222 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: John Carter loaded line that just saw what we see. 223 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: Three guys go drafted first round from that defensive line. 224 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Best ones still at Georgia right now at a guy 225 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: named Jacqueline Roy at LSU defensive tackle, like there are 226 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: some defensive tackle talent that is much needed in the NFL. 227 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: ATAPP check him out. Pro Football Focus lead draft analysts, 228 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: co host a tailgate Mike Renner. Mike, thanks so much 229 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: for the time. For sure, thanks for having me. Ross. 230 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 231 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 232 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, I'm 233 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball. We usually 234 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: talk all basketball all the time, but it's more about 235 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: the stories about what made these people love their sport 236 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: and all the interesting interactions along the way. We talked 237 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: to coaches, we talked to players, We tell you stories. 238 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: You download it, you listen to it. I think you 239 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: like it. Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on 240 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, orherever you get your podcast. 241 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: Really really excited about our next guess. By the way, 242 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: can I, Paul let me ask this before I bring 243 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: in Ed Merin Arrow. There's like a standard IVY League joke. 244 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: He's probably heard a bunch of times. Should I do 245 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: it anyway or should I not do it? Yeah, you guys, 246 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: Ivy leaguers gotta had that connection. Okay, all right, so 247 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that day. But Ed Marinarrow I think 248 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people know him as the actor Hillstreet 249 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: Blues and otherwise. He said, sixteen college records. He was 250 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: the first running back in NCAA history to running for 251 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: over four thousand career yards. By the way, that's back 252 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: when freshman weren't allowed to play. That was four thousand 253 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: yards and three. He got second in the Heisman at Cornell. 254 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: You know how good you have to be to get 255 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: second in the Heisman from Cornell? That is unbelieva ends 256 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: up getting drafted the second round by the Vikings, plays 257 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: in a couple of Super Bowls, has a nice NFL career, 258 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: that had a great acting career. Ed it's Ross Tucker Man. 259 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. Hey 260 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: sounds like it can be fun. So before I get 261 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: into the draft stuff, at my question is does it 262 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: still bother? I know you said the other night that 263 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: you're seventy two? Does it still bother you? Like when 264 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: you go to bed at night that you didn't have 265 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: the grades to get into Princeton and you had to 266 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: go to Cornell. Oh boy, I didn't know I was 267 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with this crap there. No, you 268 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: know what I actually got put on a wait list 269 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: of Princeton. Um, so it was, you know, from New Jersey. 270 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get further away from home. So 271 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: Princeton was not you know, you know they the problem 272 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: was Princeton. They uh, they found out that my parents 273 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: were married. So I got rejected. So shout out, I know, 274 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: I know, shout out by the way to the Princeton 275 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: the even missions that would have really helped our football 276 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: team in those three years if they had made sure 277 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Ed was in there. And I got a lot of 278 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: questions about the draft the other night. I guess the 279 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: first one is when did they tell you? When did 280 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: they ask you to do that? And what kind of 281 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: guidance did they get before you actually get a chance 282 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: to go out there and announce a pick, all right, 283 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, like people have been asking you this for 284 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: the last you know, I'm forty eight hours. So I 285 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: got invited by the Vikings to come and do their 286 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: draft party in Minneapolis on Thursday, Okay, and you know 287 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: it was kind of cool. I mean I don't have 288 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot of contact anymore with the league or 289 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: the Vikings. I go back to their legends weekend anyway, 290 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: so I say, sure, so you know, they find my 291 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: wife and I out there and we had a good 292 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: time in Minneapolis, got to see some old teammates, and 293 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: then I go to Vegas for the NFL Draft. Now 294 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: you gotta be honest, I don't follow this stuff any 295 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm not like, you know, I'm not wanting these draft junkies. 296 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever watched the whole thing. So 297 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: so I get there and they're very nice to me, 298 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: and and um, so I go to the they picked 299 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: me up, and I go over to the wherever they 300 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: had the thing. You know, I was a little I 301 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: think it was at a hotel the was it the 302 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: Blagio I don't remember. Anyway, So they bring me in 303 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: and go to the green room where all the other 304 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: prisoners are. You know, I'm hanging out with like Marcus 305 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen and Sebastian Man of Skolco who's a great 306 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: comedian who I think it's great, Larry Zonka. So it's cool. 307 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: So it's it's a little chaotic backstage and with this 308 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: green room. So they come up and say, okay, hey, 309 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: you're you're the second person to go. I go, okay, 310 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm getting ready, and I said, I 311 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: said what, I said, what what do you? What do 312 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: I do? I mean, I go out there and and 313 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: let me just say this first. So before this whole 314 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: thing started, they brought everybody, all the prisoners, out onto 315 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: this stage, okay, in front the crowd. I mean this 316 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: crowd was freaking enormous. I remember seen that anyway. I 317 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: felt like I was at Woodstock, you know stock it 318 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: went forever, and I'm like, I will whoa, I said, 319 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: this is crazy. So then we go back in and 320 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: they kill me this. You're on, You're on. You're the 321 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: second person to go, so okay, so I'm getting ready 322 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: and and then my son text my wife and say, 323 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: Dud's not going on next. The Vikings just traded their pick, 324 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: so okay. So then they come out to You're not 325 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: going on next you, I said, So when am I 326 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna go on? So it will probably be like an hour, 327 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: I said, okay, So I go backstage. I have a 328 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: brew or two, you know, talking to everybody you know, 329 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: and a good old time. And then again there's all 330 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: this and these people with headphones are walking around. I go, 331 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: excuse me, hey, um. When I go out there, I mean, 332 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: what do I do. I mean, I just eat that thing. 333 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: They go, They'll go, yeah, yeah, I go, okay, just 334 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: you know read, I mean, can can I say anything? 335 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: You won't get say anything. You're like, oh yeah, yeah, 336 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, can I have some fun? They go, oh yeah, 337 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: that's good. They like him when you have fun. Okay. Now, 338 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: no one said to me, hey, yeah, you got sixty seconds. Okay, 339 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: so let's get it over with. You know, do what 340 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: you do? Blah blah. No one said anything to me. 341 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: And you know what, I asked multiple times what do 342 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: I do? And no one can give me a definitive answer. 343 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not watching what the other people are doing. 344 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even they had TVs, I could. I couldn't 345 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: hear what the other prisoners were doing. Right, So I 346 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: go out there again. I see this crowd, and all 347 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, my adrenaline starts going. You know, look, 348 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: I've been in the entertaining business from forty years. Okay, 349 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: this is a guy like this is my dream come true. 350 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: You know. I mean, I'm looking out there and I 351 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: see that in their cheering and yelling, and I just 352 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: got you know, so I'm having fun. I'm gonna have 353 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: some fun. You know, I yeah, people said that, you know, 354 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: I was talking about myself. Well who el who am 355 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: I gonna talk about it? So so I, you know, 356 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: I get out there and I'm just reflecting a little 357 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: bit about my draft experience when I thought it was 358 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: funny and a lot of people really enjoyed it, and 359 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: you know, then I'm going along and blah blah blah, 360 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, and I kind of knew, you know, I 361 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: was pushing the envelope a little bit, but again I 362 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: had no I was enjoying the crowd was responding. Then 363 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: this this woman comes out and I thought she was 364 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna get like will Smith me. You know, she comes 365 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: out and she goes she did something, and I didn't 366 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: really hear what she said, but I got the hint, 367 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, come on, moving on. So I read the 368 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: thing and there you go, and I go up stage, 369 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: and nobody said anything to me, you know, reflecting back, 370 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: I think they were ignoring me. That that was gonna 371 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: be my question, what was the reaction afterwards when you 372 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: walked up Because you knew that she came out and 373 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of cracked the whip. So when you went in 374 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: there and did nobody say anything to you? They just 375 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: kind of like looked the other way. Yeah, you know, 376 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: I kind of I was in my old little world 377 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: at that point. Um, and you know, I just I thought, 378 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: I you know, I thought I did good. I thought 379 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: you did too. I thought it was hilarious. I know, 380 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: I know. The funny part was, and I don't know 381 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: if you could hear it, but when she came out 382 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: and did the whole thing, the crowd booed her. They 383 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: booed her. You know, again, this was happening all so fast. 384 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: Had question, do you think they were booing her? Or 385 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: do you think they were booing you? No, they weren't 386 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: booing me. They weren't. You know what what's funny is, 387 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, I probably several of the people out there 388 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: were Blue Mountain State fans, you know, you know who, 389 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: guys in their twenties and thirties. Yeah, yeah, and they 390 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: were drunk and they wanted, you know, they wanted something. 391 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, jo goats, right, they wanted to be entertained 392 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: a little bit, and nobody was doing that. Not that 393 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: I knew what people were doing, but you know, I 394 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: just wanted to have some fun. And you know, I 395 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: was I was like blown away by the reaction I 396 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: mean from people. I mean my Twitter. You know, I 397 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: don't do a lot of social media stuff, but my 398 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: Twitter thing got just bombed. And you know, it's like 399 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the people thought it was great, and 400 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: then I had that ten percent that like thought I 401 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: was the worst person in the world. You know, I mean, 402 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: how could I do that? How are not the worst 403 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: person in the world. I understand that. I understand that, 404 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: But there are people out there. Again, I've never been 405 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: in like Twitter war. I'm an insulting with me on 406 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: one guy. You know, one guy said call me a 407 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: D list actor. I'm at least a seedless actor. I'm 408 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: not as actor to talking with Ed Marinaro here on 409 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show, Ross Tucker filling in for Dan. 410 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: As you can tell, Ed got a lot of attention 411 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: for his announcement of the Vikings second round pick, which, 412 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: by the way, Ed was back in nineteen seventy two. 413 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: Sixteen NCA Records got robbed of the Heisman Trophy in 414 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: my opinion by Pat Sullivan back in seventy one. Here's 415 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the question I've always wanted to ask it. I think, 416 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, I think I met you one time 417 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: somewhere I can't remember. But here's my question. I know 418 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: you could ask this all the time. NFL or actor. Like, 419 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: let's say you can only pick one, you know, like 420 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: or maybe it's Heisman or an Emmy. Like you're twenty 421 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: years old, knowing what you know. Now you're seventy two. 422 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: Someone said, ed, you got to pick a lane. You 423 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: get to do Hill Street Blues and win an Emmy, 424 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: or you get to be an NFL player and when 425 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: you win the Heisman and you win the super Bowl 426 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: and you play ten years, which one would you pick 427 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: if you could all? Because that like most people have dreams, 428 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: those are like their two dreams, like to be an 429 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: actor on dB or to be an NFL player? You 430 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: did both, which dream is better? I'm dying to know. 431 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, that's a tough one only because as an athlete, 432 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: you know you have you know, a certain lifespan, right. 433 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: As an athlete, you know you can't. You know, I 434 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: don't want to blow my water and have my life 435 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: over it thirty right, So I would have to say, 436 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: like acting, you know, obviously you have a you know, 437 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: actors don't retire. They either can't remember their lines anymore 438 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: or they die. So what if you can only act 439 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: till you were thirty? What if it's the exact same 440 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: amount of time you could have been on Hill Street 441 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: Blues till you were thirty, You could have been in 442 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: the NFL till you were thirty? Ross, What am I 443 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna do after thirty? That's a that's a terrible question. 444 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: You have a degree from Cornell, Okay, so else? Yeah, yeah, 445 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: what I could have done in if I hadn't done 446 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: either one of those two? Okay, I would say, uh, 447 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: you know what, I got more kind of self satisfaction 448 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: out of my athletic career than my acting career. I mean, 449 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: I think my athletic career required a lot more um commitment, dedication. Right, 450 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: anybody can be an actor if you have a pulse, 451 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: you can yourself you know, and you know it's remember 452 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: acting is and it's been a great life for me, 453 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: for my family. I had a great career and my 454 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: great people. But you know, it's it's just you pretending 455 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: to be somebody else. And that's what acting is all about. 456 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: As as an athlete, you have to you know a 457 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: lot of it's God given, but a lot of it's developed, 458 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: and you know it requires you to be committed, work hard, 459 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: ups and downs, overcome a lot of stuff. Um it's easy, 460 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, you you see it. You see it happen 461 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: all the time. And a perfect example of what makes 462 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: sports great is Tom Brady. I'm a Tom Brady fan. 463 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy who had no right to 464 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: be the greatest of all time when you look at 465 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: his early career, six round draft pick, you know, backup 466 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: quarterback for four years. He never lost his his his 467 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: his personal self esteem. He you know, stayed positive and 468 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: look what he did. That's the great thing about sports. Acting, 469 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, is kind of a you know, it's it's serendipitous. 470 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to get really lucky. You can 471 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: get really lucky as an actor, but sports you got 472 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: to have the good. Yeah, you gotta earn it. Ed 473 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: really appreciate the time. I thought it was hilarious Friday night. 474 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't like that you're getting all kinds of flak. 475 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: Awesome guy, awesome to talk to. Unbelievable career both football 476 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: and acting. Thanks so much for coming on the show. Okay, 477 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: well thanks a lot. Man. Hope we can meet in 478 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: person again. That would be great. Ed Marinero former NFL 479 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: running back, College Football Hall of Famer, of course, an 480 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: actor on Hill Street Blues. Fox Sports Radio has the 481 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 482 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within 483 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Speaking of 484 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: a hot move, how about the Philadelphia Eagles. They made 485 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: two hot moves in the first round on Thursday night. 486 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: And the guy that did it Howie Roseman, the executive 487 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: vice president and general manager of the Eagles. Howie, my 488 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: first by the way, thanks for coming on the show. 489 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: But my first question before I get to the draft stuff, 490 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: do you have anything to do with the food over there? 491 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Because I was there in Philly for people don't know, 492 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: at the Eagles cafeter I was working the draft for 493 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles for their Eagles dot com and their food 494 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: is so good. It is so good. Exactly what to 495 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: say to me? Ross like, I am obsessed with the 496 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: food that we have for draft weekend, to the extent 497 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: that like we're meetings and then you know, Kaye has 498 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: been in the big twenty years. She's like, have you 499 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: seen the menu? I'm like, I'm sure the menus break. 500 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: She's like, Kee please look at the menu, because I 501 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: know it's gonna you become fodder or Saturday and you're 502 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: gonna care and you're gonna say I didn't see the menu. 503 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: So it is so important to me about the quality 504 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: of food that we have. It's such a passion of mine. 505 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I'm so glad you Reckon, thank you, thank 506 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: you for recognizing. I mean, I had an omelet, I 507 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: had a smoothie, I had fruit. What's it called, like 508 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: a sie eyeball or I say, hey, I don't even 509 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: know what it is. I mean, howie, I think I 510 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: tweeted during the weekend. I would come out of retirement 511 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: just to be able to eat what you guys get 512 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: to eat every day. It's unreal. Now that's a different 513 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: menu than we give the players. Now, I just want 514 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: to be clear, you know, like we can't do that. 515 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: And then we get some local restaurants, your favorites. You know, 516 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. It's an unbelievable weekend. In fact, you know, 517 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: my wife said yesterday, you know, what do you want 518 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: the last Sunday night dinner? And you know, anything you 519 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: want done with the draft, and like you know, our 520 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: job's over, like I'm going on vacation. But I was like, 521 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: you know what, like the last three I don't even know, 522 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: Like I freaking held it the last three day, you know. 523 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: So I'm glad to recognize. All right, So speaking of exciting, 524 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: So I'm there, and it felt like how wee the 525 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: trade up from fifteen to thirteen to get Jordan Davis 526 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: and then the A. J. Brown trade with an eighteenth 527 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: overall pick. In my mind that all happened in like 528 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: five to ten minutes. I know it was probably longer 529 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: than that, but it felt like five timutes. How does 530 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: that happen? Like when did you start to lay the 531 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: groundwork and when did you have a pretty good idea 532 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: that that was going to happen. Well to the credit 533 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: of the Titans and Jay rob John Robinson, tremendous general 534 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: manager of the Tennessee Titans. Um you know, our trade 535 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: with them was done. But at the same time, you know, 536 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: we weren't gonna gonna make a trade with the first 537 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: round pick and have a guy pulled one year left 538 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: on his deal, so we had to do an extension 539 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: towards Dandy um AJ's agent. We've we've done a lot 540 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: of deals with obviously Jimmy sex in long time relationship 541 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: with him. Um So we just had to do it, 542 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: but it wasn't done. So we're we're kind of, you know, 543 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of dealing with the fact that we have two 544 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: picks and we had to make sure that first pick 545 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: was right because really that's the anchor. That's the anchor, 546 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: like that first pick in the draft, and shoot, I'm 547 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: not so sure Jordan Davis kent Anker handle an anchor. 548 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Like we had the pen relas this week. You know, man, 549 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: that guys are free. So um so we had to 550 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: do that. And then at this time, like we don't 551 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: have the deal done, and so gotta go and try 552 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: to finish that deal because you know, you want to 553 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: be fair to John Robinson, you know, like it's kind 554 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: of like, am I pick and eighteenth? Then I you 555 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: know what's going on here? And at the same time, 556 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: you know Philly, you know Philly ro Off, you know, 557 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: and just imagine that, like, you know, we can't get 558 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: a deal with AJ and all of a sudden, three 559 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: days later it's reported like we can't get a deal. 560 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: We had a j Brown, we couldn't get him boy, 561 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be good. I wouldn't be good. So 562 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, there weren't many people who knew about this, 563 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: and so a part of it was like we also 564 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: wanted to have a competitive advantage of no one knowing 565 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: what we were trying to do in the first round, 566 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: so nobody trade up in front of us and get 567 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: one of the players. If we had a receiver, that 568 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: probably changes the approach for teams of our first pick. 569 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: And you know the same thing with Jay Rob. Rob 570 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he got what he wanted. So 571 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: we were like, we're gonna not tell anyone except obviously, 572 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, Jeffrey Nona's nick knows. And then when we're 573 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: on oclocket eighteen, we're just gonna announce this trade and 574 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: then it's going to come out after that. So what 575 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: was cool about it is we did the deal. I 576 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: think we're done with the deal of either pick fourteen 577 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: or fifteen, and and then like still the people in 578 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: our graft room didn't know what was going on, and 579 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: then we brought everyone in. You know, we're on oclock 580 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: at eighteen and I'm sure people have favored who were 581 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: going to pick there, and and Basis said, hey, we 582 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: trade the pick, and you know, I think people disappointed 583 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: we traded the pick, and I was like, I don't 584 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: got agent Brown here, So so that's interesting. So you 585 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: had the trade parameters worked out with the Titans, but 586 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: you were literally on the clock with A. J. Brown's 587 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: agent because if you don't get him signed to a 588 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: contract or agreed to by the eighteenth pick, you wouldn't 589 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: have done the trade. So that that's gotta be about 590 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: as intensive in negotiations because usually you have time for 591 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: any kind of contract negotiation. You're talking like a span 592 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: of minutes deadline to get a big contract done. Now 593 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: we are dealing with it the whole day. So it 594 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: wasn't like that was you know, we're starting it. When 595 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: the draft starts, we're dealing with it. But yeah, we 596 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: had work to do and credit to everyone involved. Yeah, 597 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: but you had a deadline. You had to get it done. 598 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: You also, second year in a row, you moved up 599 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: a couple spots to draft the guy you really wanted 600 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: last year, DeVante Smith, who had a tremendous rookie year. 601 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: This year was for Jordan Davis. Walk us through those 602 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: trades too. You talk about the parameters with the Texans. 603 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm assuming before the draft and you just kind of 604 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: have intel, or you have a gut feeling, or just 605 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: there's a decent chance that the team in front of 606 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: you might like the same guy. Well, you know, obviously 607 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: tremendous respect for the Baltimore Ravens, and they got tremendous player. 608 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I think for us it was just it was important 609 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: for us that we got this player, this fit. It 610 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: just made sense for our team and how we wanted 611 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: to build it, and so we just didn't want to 612 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: take the rets, you know, And I'm sure they they're 613 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: static about the player they got is a great player 614 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: and a great person. So I don't want to say 615 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: I knew what they were dealing because you know, Eric Ozzy, 616 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: coach Harves. I mean, those guys are really good at 617 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: what they do. I think for us, it was just 618 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: ensuring we got the right player for the Philadelphagles. So 619 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: let's talk about Jordan Davis. I love the guy. I 620 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: was trying to get him to win the Heisman last 621 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: year during the season. I guess the one critique I 622 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: think is interesting about him how he is the lack 623 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: of you know, pass rush stats and pass rush production. 624 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: But what's funny to me about that, I guess is 625 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: that's the same thing people are saying about Trayvon Walker, 626 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: who was the number one pick in the draft. It's 627 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: the same thing they're saying about Whyatt who was a 628 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: first round pick. And looking at the stats for Georgia 629 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: last year, it almost feels like your third round picking 630 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: na Kobe Dean with six and a half stack, Like 631 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: there's only so many stats to go around, right well, 632 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: And I think also, you know, you gotta look at 633 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: what they're asking to do there, right for sure, you 634 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: also have to look at the fact and you know, 635 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: our scouts are our analytics group, like they all they 636 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: because he's the conversation and the draft rooms like convince 637 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: me that I shouldn't be worried about this, you know, 638 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: because you see it in his body. I mean, you 639 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: see him as a nose one on one with the center. 640 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: You see the pushback, you see him looping on stunts, 641 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: and you see he's got closing speed. And I think 642 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: one of the great points was like, you know, this 643 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: team won a lot of games by a lot of points, 644 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: and so like they have a lot of five star guys. 645 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: Is he playing in the fourth quarter when all due respect, 646 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: they're beating Georgia Southern by forty points, right, Like, is 647 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: that a situation where like, you know he's going and 648 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: he's just you know, they're winning by three touchdowns in 649 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, he's just rushing. You know, you don't 650 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: see that as much. And I think the same thing, 651 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Like he had a sack against Alabama that was called back, 652 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: there was a penalty. That doesn't does it change nown 653 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: when he's got three and a half sacks or fourth stack. 654 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: So I think for us, we knew what was in 655 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: his body. We knew what kind of player he could be. 656 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy even saying all that, 657 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: you know, all the awards, it was the top ten 658 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: in the Husman voting, right, won the Alan Trophy. Like, 659 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: we're not talking about a guy who didn't who wasn't productive, 660 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: helped you know, the number one rank defense in the country. 661 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: So we understand all that. And obviously listen, if this 662 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: guy had eight sacks, would he be anywhere near the 663 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: thirteenth pick in the draft? Cross? No way, I mean 664 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: the guy's going in the top five. Well that's what 665 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. If Georgia had him out there, 666 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: for more obvious passing downs. He's a top five pick 667 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: and you guys don't have a chance to get him 668 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: in the first place. I mentioned the third round pick 669 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: in the Kobe Dean. You know, there's a lot of 670 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: comments that came out as he was falling in the 671 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: draft about his health. I guess, can you just walk 672 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: us through the process? You know, I guess different teams, 673 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: doctors have different opinions. What is the process for evaluating 674 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: guys grading their health and what were you told? Well, 675 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: I think for the first thing is that's a huge 676 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: part of why we go to Indy and the combine 677 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: and there are guys who go and have more information, 678 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: and then teams they share medical information. You know, that 679 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean everyone's got the same opinion, but they share, hey, 680 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: we got more risks, we got less risk and our 681 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: dots do a great job of that. And then you 682 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: have a medical meeting about a week before the draft. Um, 683 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, some teams kind of maybe do it earlier, 684 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: sometimes some teams maybe later. But and we basically say 685 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: this is where we're at, this is where we are 686 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: on these guys, and you know we're there, We're gonna 687 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: put them on the board or not. You know, if 688 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: this is a foul, we're not going to put the 689 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: kid on the board. And so, you know, coming out 690 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: of that medical meeting, I didn't think the issue with 691 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: Nakobe was the medical I thought the issue in Nakobe 692 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: was like, if we don't take him in the top twenty, 693 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: are we getting this guy? Probably not right, He's probably gone. 694 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: And so when we got into Friday, you know, you 695 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: have these conversations with your docs and you basically say, hey, 696 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: here are a couple of guys that we're looking at 697 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: at fifty one, and the Kobe's there, and you know, 698 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: they kind of we walked us through it. And at 699 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: the end of the the day we decided to take Cam 700 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: only because stubbornly convicted about old line D line right, 701 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: like it was got in the same But that's just 702 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: that's how we roll here, you know, And it's like, 703 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: you gotta stand for something, and that's what we want 704 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: to stand for. And so we took Cam. But those 705 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: are the two guys, and I'm not gonna lie, I'm 706 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: sure a bunch of our scouts were, you know, love Cam, 707 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: but also like, man, that's the Kobe Dean. And so 708 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: then you know, it's kind of like h and at 709 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 1: that time you're saying, hey, this guy's falling. You guys good, 710 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, we're good, and then he's fallen more and 711 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: then it almost becomes like we must be missing something here, 712 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, like we must say so there's probably between 713 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: our pick the first ten picks, you're just like he's going, 714 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, so you don't even worry about it. You're 715 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: so far away. But as we got about fifteen picks away, 716 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: like I'm superstitious, so I didn't want to jinx it, 717 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: like I didn't want because I really wasn't anticipating him 718 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: be there. And I think as we out closer, I'm like, 719 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: are we short? Like I think I like three times 720 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: I called are we short? Like this is how he 721 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: if he's on this team, he'll be out there at 722 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: rookie Minicamp next week, you know. And so then it's 723 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: just like, m let's seek Nakobe Dean, like right, like 724 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like it was funny because we got 725 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: a few trade calls at that point, and obviously we 726 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of volume in this draft based 727 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: on the trades we did in the first round, and 728 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: we started with ten picks and definitely end up with 729 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: ten picks, but it's like we we actually got our 730 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: amazingly good offers in the third round and some of 731 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: those trades ended up happening, so you can look at them, 732 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: but it was like, man, we can't mess around. I mean, 733 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean, It's like it is there more Philadelphia Eagle 734 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: than n Kobe Deane. Love it. How we really appreciate 735 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: the time. Thank you so much for coming on the show. 736 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: Appreciate you having me have a great day. Yeah you too. 737 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: There he is Howie Roseman, the Eagles executive vice president 738 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: and general manager. They had one of the more eventful drafts, 739 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: that's for sure.