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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jet's Drive Time with John Osier, oser Tystevis

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Speaker 1: and Jen p.

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Speaker 2: Check Shaft Wo Jangs Drive Time starts right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have a specific way we set up

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Speaker 3: all the stars aligned. There's other there's other fallbacks that

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Speaker 3: we would go to, but really we're picking from one

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Speaker 4: GM Trim Palki and his staff. The hey is in

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Speaker 4: the barn almost the draft coming up starting tomorrow night

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Speaker 4: and alive. Look inside Daily's Place getting ready for the

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Speaker 4: du Vaut Draft party presented by Donovan Air Electric and Plumbing,

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Speaker 4: and Welcome inside Daily's Place. This is Jags Drive Times,

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Speaker 4: JP Shadwick, John Osier, Kai Stevens and what the excitement

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Speaker 4: is starting to build Kai here we are almost a

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Speaker 4: little over a day away.

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Speaker 5: It's exciting because it kind of feels like the unofficial

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Speaker 5: start of the next season, right once we get the

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Speaker 5: new rookies in here. And all the fans are going

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Speaker 5: to be out of here tomorrow. So I am very

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Speaker 5: excited to get things going.

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Speaker 2: How about it, John, Well, if the Hayes not in

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Speaker 2: the barn, then something's wrong with the Hey, this is

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Speaker 2: the first draft I think of a new era JP.

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Speaker 2: You'd like to think they're picking late in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time, they haven't done that very often.

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Speaker 2: You still have to draft well there if you're going

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Speaker 2: to be a drafted developed team.

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Speaker 4: So big draft of this r let's make it a

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Speaker 4: trend moving forward as well. It means the Jags have

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Speaker 4: done well in the regular season. Let's get to the

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Speaker 4: big things today. Big thing number one Draft weekend. Ahead

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Speaker 4: of course, the Jaguars have nine draft picks at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Balke has a history of moving around on draft days

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Speaker 4: while on the clock or on the day itself. We'll

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Speaker 4: see what happens over the weekend. Big thing number two,

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Speaker 4: value versus need.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear those.

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Speaker 4: Words a lot from the GM and the head coach

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Speaker 4: throughout the weekend, and you'll hear it from the GM

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Speaker 4: again coming up in just a moment. And yes, Kansas

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Speaker 4: City in the spotlight. The Super Bowl champs are hosting

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Speaker 4: the draft this year in Kansas City. Brian Sexston is

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Speaker 4: the GM again. Value versus need, It's always a balance

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Speaker 4: in the NFL draft, and it usually comes together no

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Speaker 4: matter what. According to Balky, you're.

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Speaker 3: Still setting the board based on value and then once

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Speaker 3: it's place. Once you've got the board set on value,

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Speaker 3: then you start looking at the needs. You don't want

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Speaker 3: you have a need at that position. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this a while now, and most of

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Speaker 3: the time the value and need come together. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's just no value at the position of need that

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Speaker 4: All right, John, Value versus need? What does the value

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Speaker 2: Well, think of this as clusters, meaning when they have

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Speaker 4: To go down tomorrow, no doubt about that. And now

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Speaker 4: of it. Yes, free agency has happened, not as big

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Speaker 5: And as I'm going to stick to my pick, I

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens there. John. It takes two to

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Speaker 4: tango though, of course, when you're on the clock at

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Speaker 2: But I also see offensive line. They saw the value

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Speaker 5: I think the thing about offensive line too, is because

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Speaker 2: Again, don't forget guard there either. Jp you draft a

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Speaker 4: A lot of money on that offensive line too, and

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Speaker 4: drift Time. Welcome back. It's JAG's Drive Time and a

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Speaker 4: Union Station. The site there it is beautiful. Look fountain

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Speaker 4: of the stage. The final preparations underway for the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three NFL Draft. Become back at Jagg's Drivetime. JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 4: John Ozer, Kay Stevens. Brian Sexton is in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Thanks JP, Welcome to the heartland of America, my hometown,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Missouri. Side of the Super Bowl champions as

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Speaker 1: everyone here is willing to remind you, and also side

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. There are seventeen

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Speaker 1: hybrid safety, corner linebacker, and a guy who might be

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Speaker 1: like all of those positions are positions the Jaguars could

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Speaker 6: Alabama prepared me good, you know, Cosavean has stopped me

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Speaker 6: And just seeing the guys who came from Bama, you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, I just learned a lot from them, and

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Speaker 1: Let's stay with the cornerbacks because there are many of

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Speaker 1: them here in the Jaguars obviously are in the market.

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Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior, that's the name folks know, primarily because

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Speaker 1: his father was famous as a linebacker with the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 1: so Porter knows about the Jaguars. He's also followed the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars because of a couple of their cornerbacks on whose

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Speaker 4: You guys picked up Jannen Ranthy.

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Speaker 6: My dad was a coach for the Steller so I

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Speaker 6: used to watch all those matchups with him and AB

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Speaker 1: Back to Brian Branch for just a minute. JP, he

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Speaker 1: didn't make an official visit to the Jaguars, but he's

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Speaker 1: familiar with Duval. He's got some people there and he

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Speaker 6: Yes, I've got some people that lives up there. And

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Speaker 6: I played Trevor Lawrence in high school, so that's a

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Speaker 6: That would be Flynning.

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Speaker 1: So you're not properly surprised by what he he's been

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Speaker 6: Oh no, sir, trust me in high school. Got he

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 4: So you don't have to go far in that city,

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Speaker 4: that's for sure, Brian. The Kansas City beautiful skyline and

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Well, those are two of

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Speaker 5: I think the versatility is exciting, right because with the defense,

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Speaker 5: This is a first round talent, but it's exciting to

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Speaker 2: Well, Bucky Brooks, we've talked to a lot JP in

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Speaker 4: and Ky, we're gonna get some answers out of John Osier.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this.

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Speaker 4: People ask him questions all the time. We're gonna get

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Speaker 4: Jaggs drift time, this friendly oh so well, welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It's tags drive time from Daily's Place, a day away

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Speaker 4: from the big draft party. Sold out house, coming up

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Speaker 4: tomorrow night, We've got answers for your ozone questions. We

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Speaker 4: Question number one, John from Cape May Courthouse to Jags

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Speaker 2: That is all as you were defense. I mean, John

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Speaker 4: Don't be shocked, but the next few years you might

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there will, And I think the danger here is

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Speaker 2: Usually, if there's theories that there's gonna be a bunch

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately for me, I've been to the Chiefs. I was

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Speaker 5: There's gonna be a lot of people here tomorrow, so yes,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be close until about week eight last year,

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Speaker 4: He took five after the London your stock went down.

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Speaker 4: That's what happened. There you have it the ozone snapshot

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Speaker 4: every day on Jaguars dot com. John Oser at least

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Speaker 4: read some of your questions and answers a few of them.

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Speaker 4: We're back in a moment, our final thoughts and yes,

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Speaker 4: A preview of tomorrow night's draft party is next on

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Speaker 4: Jagg's Drift Time. JAG's Draft Time continues from Daily's place

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Speaker 4: on the south end of tiaa bank field on the

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Speaker 4: I need a new lawn.

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Speaker 2: But that's the side point.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be ready to roll for training camp. And

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Speaker 4: it's a beautiful site to see.

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Speaker 2: Guy.

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Speaker 5: We're inching closer and makes it a little bit real.

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Speaker 2: Now, you believe it'll be ready for training camp.

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Speaker 4: No doubt. Here we are hey. Tomorrow it's the big

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Speaker 4: du Vault Draft party presented by Donovan's Kai. You'll be

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Speaker 5: I will be co hosting it with our in game

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited for that.

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Speaker 5: Tons of players coming out, obviously, Doug Peterson will be

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Speaker 2: I think you had a chance.

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Speaker 5: He's coming in, he knows what he's coming back to,

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Speaker 5: and after last year, how could you not be excited

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun, It's gonna be a blast. Tomorrow night,

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Speaker 4: we'll look forward to that sold out house. Over fifty

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Speaker 4: five hundred expected at Daily's place and alive look inside

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Speaker 4: one more time, just over twenty four hours away from

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Speaker 4: the start of the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Thanks

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Speaker 4: to our entire crew for Kay Stevens and John Oser,

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Speaker 4: I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for watching. We'll see you

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Speaker 4: tomorrow night. This is Jagg's Drive Time on the Jaguars

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