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Speaker 1: At this he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and in his time for the Fantasy Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: Here we'll take a quick run around the league here

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Speaker 2: before we talk about the Thursday night game tonight. Tank

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Speaker 2: Dell with that concussion did not practice on Thursday. That

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Speaker 2: he's not going to play that this week. So you

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Speaker 2: can expect no Tank Dell this week if you're waiting

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Speaker 2: on him. Chris Olave for Woods.

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Speaker 3: Plays a lot of snaps though. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying he's a great fantasy option.

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Speaker 2: But somebody's got to pick up the slack there. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna throw the football. Chris Alave with the toe was

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Speaker 2: upgraded to a full participant on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: He isn't like the product.

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Speaker 2: No, they haven't thrown the football down the fields. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Elijah Mitchell with a knee returned to practice on Thursday

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Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: That's a good that's a big deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Although Jordan Mason didn't look bad last week.

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Speaker 3: They're really high on him. They like him a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of an unknown quality back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: John news Smith with the ankle was upgraded to a

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Speaker 2: full participant for Thursday's practice for Atlanta. Not good news

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Speaker 2: for those uh Kyle Pitts owners.

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Speaker 3: Who knows. Between you look at them, it's like maccollins

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Speaker 3: isn't great, Van Jefferson isn't great. But between those two,

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Speaker 3: John who London pits, you would think they'd have a

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Speaker 3: pretty quality passing game, and they did last week. But

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Speaker 3: also because Houston just stacked the box like they guys

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Speaker 3: choose to throw the football. Yeah, that's the I wonder

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Speaker 3: are gonna make Rider beat them in probably?

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Speaker 2: I mean that would be what I would do.

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Speaker 3: He did, but I don't know if he will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans with the hamstring limited it Thursday. He didn't

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Speaker 2: practice yesterday, So that's a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the vibe that it wasn't slam dunk at

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Speaker 3: all that he's playing this week.

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Speaker 2: That being said, I mean they're both three and they

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Speaker 2: both have one loss.

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Speaker 3: Right now, who they playing against? That's right? Okay, so

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Speaker 3: they need him such a big game.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs with the hamstring, did not practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: He's probably not going to play, So David Montgomery fire

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Speaker 2: him up all day long. Mandatory Montgomery, I.

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Speaker 3: Think Saint Brown is back. He is. Yeah, So that's

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Speaker 3: good for that team. And you said there's some Laporta

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Speaker 3: news too for the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Laporta with a calf injury. Did not practice on

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Speaker 2: Thursday after being added added to the Week six injury report.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's something that just cropped up.

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Speaker 3: So in your history, being added on a Thursday is

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Speaker 3: generally bad.

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Speaker 2: That's a bad thing, especially if if it's a If

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Speaker 2: it's a if you're added and it was a limited practice, okay,

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Speaker 2: then there's still a chase if you if you go

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Speaker 2: d m P after after the injury happened, then that's

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Speaker 2: that's a bad sign, not a good sign. So you

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on that one. On Friday, maybe he's

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Speaker 2: a game time. Here's the thing about them, if you

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Speaker 2: think about the way, so after Hawkinson was traded last year,

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Speaker 2: which is about midway three, was before the trade dead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, before about this time of year. To me a

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Speaker 3: little later.

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Speaker 2: If you remember back to last the second half of

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Speaker 2: last season, they had like three complete Jags at tight

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Speaker 2: end absolutely, who were catching touchdown passes every week.

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Speaker 3: You just said you couldn't you didn't know which one

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Speaker 3: of them it was going to be to end? Yeah, right, right, right,

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Speaker 3: So maybe we should have.

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Speaker 2: Seen this Laporta stuff coming a little bit because they're

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Speaker 2: going to throw to the tight end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you use a high pick on them.

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Speaker 3: And we all liked him as a prospect, and frankly,

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Speaker 3: I mean, who would you rather have rest of the

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Speaker 3: season Kelsey yes, Andrews yes, then Hawkinson yes, Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 2: That, I'll have Laporta over anybody else.

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Speaker 3: I'll take him over Waller and Pitts and got her now.

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Speaker 3: Waller could get there, he could, he could, but La

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we'll see how they they incorporate,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jamison Williams into the offense a little more

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Speaker 2: than week. They did get him a little bit of

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Speaker 2: run last week. But I think he hurts Josh Reynolds

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Speaker 3: I mean they're different type players, but that could be

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Speaker 3: targets he steals from.

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Speaker 2: But they want to run the football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a good offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, They just want to run. And they also I

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Speaker 2: think part of that is that they know Jared Goff

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Speaker 3: And so they're in Tampa.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, they're in Tampa. So I mean, this

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Speaker 2: could be twenty five carries from Montgomery.

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Speaker 3: I assume if Gibbs isn't there, I bet he gets

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Speaker 3: twenty five touches. Yeah, yeah, I would think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mandatory Montgomery. He's every week starter. You mentioned him

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Speaker 2: on Ros Saint Brian. Jay Jones did not practice on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: That's trending.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is not going to the impression that he's

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Speaker 3: not going to play this week.

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Speaker 2: But remember, the Colts in Jacksonville never win.

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Speaker 3: I've tried to think, what's what's their thing back when

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Speaker 3: when Colts go to Jags they always.

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Speaker 2: They've won like once there since twenty thirteen. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I know, they just don't win in Jacksonville. And it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter how bad the Jags are, how good the Colts,

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Speaker 2: they don't win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't win there. Okay.

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Speaker 2: And that even goes back to like Andrew Luck days.

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Speaker 2: They don't win there, and.

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Speaker 3: That would be Jacksonville's first winning their building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this year, they haven't won a game at in

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville this sure, Okay, so go figure h T. Higgins

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Speaker 2: with the Ribs says it looks promising when asked about

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Speaker 2: the possibility of him playing in Week six against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: They need him, Yeah, they really do need him. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I meant to say this earlier when we

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Speaker 3: Tyler Boyd. He's local dude. He's declining rapidly, and I

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Speaker 3: number two. I didn't even know who he was really,

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Speaker 3: and not to mention, we talked about the Seattle matchup.

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Speaker 3: They have two good corners. They're young, I mean wool

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that could be a interesting changer.

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Speaker 2: Not, because the bank like as good as the Bengals receivers.

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Speaker 2: Are those two Seattle's rival them? Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: They're in. That conversation yeah. I mean, I honestly, with

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Speaker 3: all respect of Chase and Higgins, who I think are

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the best duos out there When

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Speaker 3: you look at skill position players, the Bengals are not

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Speaker 3: in the top two or three, like everyone tends to think.

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Speaker 3: They have two studs or a stud a really good player,

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Speaker 3: a declining.

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Speaker 2: Slot, a declining running back, a.

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Speaker 3: Declining running back, and a tight end who's non existent

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Speaker 3: kind of never was. Yeah, yeah, I mean they're not

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Speaker 2: Chin I don't I don't think they're there was Seattle agreed.

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker is heading shoulders above charbon A.

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Speaker 3: Jig Ba and right the young guys. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. Chase is the best of all

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Speaker 3: of them. But then it's a question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dawson Knox with the wrist injury, was it did?

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Speaker 2: That is noteworthy because Dalton Kincaid is still in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: He was limited again on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Rough week for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Odell Beckham upgraded to a full participant in Thursday's

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Speaker 2: practice with the ankle injury. Folks, he is not fantasy relevant, no,

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Speaker 2: there he just isn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think he hurts Zay Jones if he plays,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't. Yeah, you start Zay, you start Andrews, and

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Speaker 2: They wasted a whole bunch of money there, I think.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, he doesn't even look good.

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Speaker 3: He's not like he was, you know, getting open left

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Speaker 3: and right against Steelers from what I saw.

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Speaker 2: Traylon Burk's with a knee, did not travel with the

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Speaker 2: Titans to London. Is out for Week six against the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was three or four of their players

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Speaker 3: But he's had a weird career. Man. He needs to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise you know it starts to little Yeah, go

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Speaker 2: a little sideways on you. Jordan Addison with the ankle,

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Speaker 2: practiced on Thursday, so that's a good sign for them.

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Speaker 3: Have the Bears, So yeah, that's a sneaky over game

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Speaker 2: Marquise Brown, with an illness, returned to practice on Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Noah Brown, but it was designated to return by the Texans.

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Speaker 3: Just in time, just they could use him. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they were high on him. Maybe he plays quite a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned Deshaun Watson not practicing again today.

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 2: Walker is going to get to start for Have.

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Speaker 3: They announced that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've said he's got taken all the first

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Speaker 2: team reps this week, Deshaun, If you haven't, he hasn't

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Speaker 2: practiced by Thursday. He's not pressing it. And I was

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Speaker 2: mentioning to you off the air, like there there's like,

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Speaker 2: what's all the reports coming out of Cleveland. Well, there's

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Speaker 2: no structural damage with with DeShawn.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He was clear to medically to play on Sunday. Then

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Speaker 2: they decided to shut him down. It's almost like they're

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Speaker 2: they're going out of their way to say, well, Deshawn's

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Speaker 2: kind of soft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Stefanski's comments said that without saying that,

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Speaker 3: and then Watson's defense that's never been a criticism never,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, it just there's funny business going

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe maybe the problem is he just needed

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Speaker 2: a deep tissue massage to work out the kinks in

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Speaker 2: that in that shoulder, and he can't have one.

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Speaker 3: That stuff that's all he needed.

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Speaker 2: Can't do it. Miles Sanders with the shoulder remains sidelines

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Speaker 2: for Thursday's practice.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't look good for him.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't look good for him. Look again, they're playing Miami.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Tubo should get all the touches or

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Speaker 2: Cuba should be too. Is Tuba startable this week as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he catches the ball too. No, I think

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Speaker 2: Have I mentioned that the Broncos have not made playoffs

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Speaker 2: They're bad against the spread because it's the spreads are too.

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Speaker 3: Big, threads are too big. I just think that people

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Speaker 3: People really see it. Think I might say seventy again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it'll be interesting. Taylor Swift will be there

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Speaker 2: just throwing them out there. It'll come up a thousand times.

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Speaker 3: If it's a bad game.

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Speaker 2: I think no, maybe the game is an arrowhead tonight.

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Speaker 2: It is in Kansas City. Yeah, Yeah, they're in trouble. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're in trouble. I said, I thought it was in Denver.

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Speaker 2: It's in case, it's not gonna yeah, road team in.

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Speaker 3: Kansas National TV, Taylor Swift, Now.

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Speaker 2: Andy Reid never loses to division teams.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going again. Yeah, yeah, I don't like

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Speaker 3: their chances.

452
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Speaker 2: No, I don't like either. Anyways, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: signed by one Jalen Warren. I mentioned the uh, we

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Speaker 2: actually always do these a day ahead of time because

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Speaker 2: we don't do Saturday's a weekend thing, Sir, So Friday's

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Speaker 2: question will be Chris Boswell were Jeff Reid the Steelers

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Speaker 2: career record holder for the longest field goal? Okay, taking

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Speaker 2: a little deeper on that one.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Boz, but I don't. I always think

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Speaker 3: it's not the obvious. You know that that was my

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Speaker 3: philosophy in school. Well, I didn't study for the test.

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Speaker 3: He's probably trying to trick me with the obvious question.

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Speaker 3: Take the other one and that gets you a two

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Speaker 3: to one.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you guys know the answers.

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Speaker 2: I do know the answer. Yeah, I even know how

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Speaker 2: long the field goal is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I should know that one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, as we mentioned yesterday or earlier this week, I

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Speaker 2: can't remember which day. Now, they're all running together here

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Speaker 2: some this is a bye week. The NFL trade deadline

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Speaker 2: is coming up October thirty. First, Well, Bill Barnwell came

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Speaker 2: up with some potential proposals here for players to get traded.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, I didn't see it today. Okay, that's fun.

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Speaker 3: I think there's real a lot of action.

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Speaker 2: I think there will be.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely some cellar.

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Speaker 2: He's got some guys here being traded. He's focusing here

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Speaker 2: on NFL trade deadline. Offers fifteen proposals for players, but

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Speaker 2: he kind of narrowed it down to just helping out

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Speaker 2: some of the what he calls the contenders.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned this yesterday and I threw that on Twitter

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Speaker 3: and did more homework on it. Jalen Johnson from the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Would really it would make a lot of sense to

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Speaker 2: me too.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure born Roll's not saying the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: a contender. I mean he's not. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: he's not.

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Speaker 2: But he has some other teams in the division that

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Speaker 2: are and he has them making trades.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go through it. I'm interested. I think there's

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Speaker 3: some big names that could move.

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Speaker 2: He says a swap of strengths for the Chiefs and Jets.

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Speaker 2: I disagree with him on this when he says this

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Speaker 2: is a strength for the Chiefs. He said the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: get edge rusher Carl Lawson talked about him yesterday. So

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Speaker 2: the Jets get offensive tackle Lucas Nang and twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four to six round draft pick. Offensive tackle is not

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Speaker 2: a strength for the Kansas City Chiefs. And I would

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Speaker 2: not be interested in trading Lucas Nang if I were them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't love that either.

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Speaker 2: They're two offensive tattle are are are a penalty waiting

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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 3: They both stink. In fact, I only Taylor is a

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Speaker 3: bad player. He just can't line up on sides for

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Speaker 3: which I don't know what on earth is going on there.

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Speaker 2: He'll get the yips.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a penalty waiting to happen, obviously, And

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Speaker 3: I was. I was called him Walker and that's not

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Speaker 3: his name. The Penn State dude that was a buccaneer

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Speaker 3: and now he's their left tackle. Yeah, Donavan Smith. Donovan Smith,

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Speaker 3: he's always been a pay He's awful. Waiting to happen,

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Speaker 3: He's awful. I had never understood why.

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Speaker 2: They I saw a stat and I think it was

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Speaker 2: from since since the start of last season, those two

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Speaker 2: have combined for thirty two penalties.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that doesn't shock me. I mean, you're right about

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Speaker 3: penalties waiting to happen.

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Speaker 2: I don't love and they're they're not good enough to

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Speaker 2: get away with it a because they don't. Not only

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Speaker 2: do they take penalties, they're they're not good enough blockers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were shutting down Bosa and Mac, you

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Speaker 3: know you can live with Chargers play after play on islands. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you took a hold here, you jumped or whatever. But

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Speaker 3: the one thing though, that I assume what Barnwell's getting at,

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Speaker 3: is the Jets now lost Vera Tucker, who's their best

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman, and O line was probably their weakness to

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Speaker 3: begin with.

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Speaker 2: You know, like the Jets aren't going anywhere this year,

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Speaker 2: there's no reason for them to make a trade like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, if Loston has to go and you could get

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Speaker 3: a tackle, But I don't think the Chiefs would give

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Speaker 3: you a tackle for him. Maybe they'll give you a

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Speaker 3: pick for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the pick would be more. Yeah, yeah, instant help

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys defense by giving up a quarterback. Why

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Speaker 2: I don't see this happening either. Cowboys get linebacker Alex

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Speaker 2: Singleton and any fourth round twenty twenty five pick. The

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Speaker 2: Broncos get Trey Lance in a twenty twenty five six

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Speaker 2: round pick. Now for the Broncos that makes.

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Speaker 3: Sense, except for they could have got them two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: They could have gotten them. Yeah, yeah, but then they didn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, trade Lance to me should be a Viking

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Speaker 3: or a Bronco or a Buck or I can't believe

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Speaker 3: more teams wouldn't give you more. Maybe they just didn't

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Speaker 3: like him, I mean, yeah, I think that's what the

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Speaker 3: world's telling you. Or but maybe wouldn't you trade Cooper

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Speaker 3: Rush before you trade trade Lance?

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Speaker 2: This is too Yeah, but nobody's gonna give anything for

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Speaker 2: Chris under.

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Speaker 3: The lance is tradable because he was basically free, yeah

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Speaker 3: a couple days ago.

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Speaker 2: Basically bad idea bill, A bad idea bill. Not getting

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Speaker 2: on that one.

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Speaker 3: If you wouldn't give me Singleton for a pick again. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean Singleton, you go. I don't think Dever's gonna

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Speaker 3: lose any sleep over.

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Speaker 2: That Lions go all in for a star defender.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this one can take place. Lions

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Speaker 2: get Danielle Hunter and a twenty twenty four fifth round pick.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings get a twenty twenty four second round pick,

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Speaker 2: edge rusher James Houston in a twenty twenty five third

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Speaker 2: round pick, which is can.

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Speaker 3: James Houston is not a throwaway now. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what he's done this year, but he's an undersized dude

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Speaker 3: that is a speedball off the edge. Now, he's not

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Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter. The Vikings have made trades within the division.

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Speaker 2: The problem is James Houston right now is out. He's

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Speaker 2: a fractured ankle.

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Speaker 3: I I don't always doing right now. Yes, I didn't

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Speaker 3: realize he was hurt.

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Speaker 2: I mean to trade a player, you do have to

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Speaker 2: pass a physical and if you got a fractured ankle,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to pass the physical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't make much sense, and it's it

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Speaker 3: the interdivisional trade like the Vikings have done that. But

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Speaker 3: still I think that's a red flag if you were okay,

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Speaker 3: side note, if you were in charge of the Lions

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Speaker 3: right now, would you be interested in trading for Brian

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Speaker 3: Burns or Chase Young or somebody like that? Sure? I

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Speaker 3: would do Sure. I mean, let's go in. I like

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Speaker 3: the idea of going all in getting me another edge

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Speaker 3: rusher oposite Hutchinson Gray. But I don't think that particularly

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Speaker 3: one works out.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The Panthers making move for a first round.

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Speaker 3: Wide out, I think there's pressure to do that.

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Speaker 2: The Panthers get Marquise Brown in a twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: third round draft pick. The Cardinals get Terris Marshall and

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Speaker 2: a twenty twenty four second round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't seem enough for me for Brown. They're both early picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I could see Brown ending up in Carolina. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's been a lot of talk that they want a receiver.

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Speaker 3: I'm not interested in him. I think he's a one

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Speaker 3: trick pony. I don't think he answers your question.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a top flight guy.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't either. I think he's a two.

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Speaker 3: He's a complimentary piece.

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Speaker 2: The Rams make a deal for a change of paceback.

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Speaker 3: They seem like they're back short.

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Speaker 2: The Rams get Rashad Penny from the Eagles. The Eagles

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Speaker 2: get linebacker Troy Reader.

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Speaker 3: That adds up linebackers not a strength of the Eagles

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: It is not. I don't know. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think if you if you're if you're the Rams. Like

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Speaker 2: Rashad Penny was available on he was on he was

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Speaker 2: on Philadelphi's practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could just sign him.

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Speaker 2: There's gotta be twenty guys like that out there that

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Speaker 2: you could just sign. Why would you give up a

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Speaker 2: guy like Troy Reider? Go get a guy to get

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Speaker 2: a backup running back.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I look at Penny in a higher light than

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Speaker 3: that because he's had some bright moments, but he came

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Speaker 3: to the field for Eagles right now. No, I mean

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Speaker 3: they get Hi away for nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a running back reunion for Cleveland. The Browns

639
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Speaker 2: get running back Deernest Johnson uh and a seventh round pick.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars get twenty twenty four fifth round pick.

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Speaker 3: I do that out of the Jags, he's your third back.

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Speaker 3: Does that do the Browns much good?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. They want to give up a

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick for Deaner Johnson. They could have just

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Speaker 2: signed him and kept him.

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Speaker 3: They just signed Kareem Hunt too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah who. They also could have signed him like Deeranis

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Speaker 2: Johnson wasn't breaking the bank for you?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, absolutely, like he You could have just brought

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Speaker 3: him back. Yeah, again, it'll move.

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Speaker 2: You don't often see backs traded like that because they're

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Speaker 2: easy to find.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and probably the third back in Cleveland. Yeah, is

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00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: that really the Cleveland's biggest problem is a third running back. Now,

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Speaker 3: this one's interesting.

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Speaker 2: The Packers get Jerry Judy in a twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: fourth round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: I'm in on that so far.

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00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: The Broncos get Romeo Dobbs in a twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: second round draft pick.

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00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, if there's a money situation there, Judy's

662
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: much more expensive. I think Judy's an overrated player, but

663
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: he would be very welcome in Green Bay. You know,

664
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: in terms of what he brings is a little different.

665
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: They're trying to get young in Denver. You're not gonna

666
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: probably bring Judy back. Yeah, Okay.

667
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: The Jets give up Dalvin Cook and a fourth round pick.

668
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: The Jets get a fifth round pick from the Ravens.

669
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense.

670
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: To me, Just stum contract because he's bad.

671
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: They sign him to a one year deal. Yeah, I

672
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: think it's just wait, they're.

673
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: Not like, okay, but what if he cut him? Why

674
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: would you cut him? You don't know, I mean, he's.

675
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: Still going backwards, he's still he's still your second, Like

676
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: the Jets would get a twenty twenty five fifth round

677
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: pick from the Ravens the Jets. The Jets would give

678
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: up Dalvin Cook and a fourth twenty twenty five fourth

679
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: round draft That's.

680
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Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Why would you Why would you take it?

681
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: Why would you give up a pick?

682
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Speaker 3: Would you go backwards in the draft as opposed to

683
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: cut it right?

684
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: Why would you move backwards?

685
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, just let him if you're going to do that,

686
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: just cut him.

687
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: That's silly.

688
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see he trade him to the Ravens

689
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: for a seventh right one of those.

690
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: Why would That's a bill that doesn't make any sense.

691
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Speaker 2: You're an analytics guy.

692
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something in his contract that we don't know.

693
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Speaker 3: He can't be traded. I don't know, he can't be

694
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Speaker 3: cut something. I mean, you already paid the signing bonus

695
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Speaker 3: it's a bad signing. He gets a he has a

696
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Speaker 3: backwards in the draft.

697
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Speaker 2: He has a two hundred and sixty two dollars or

698
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty two thousand dollars per week roster

699
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: bonus due to the rest of the season.

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Speaker 3: That's nothing. That's also nothing. So you're saying he gets

701
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: that no matter what, if they cut.

702
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: Him per week, he has to be on the roster.

703
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: It's a roster bonus.

704
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Speaker 3: If they don't want to do that, they can just

705
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: cut him. I don't understand it. Maybe there's something contractually

706
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm missing, But why go backwards in the draft when

707
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: you could just say don't come back Dalvin.

708
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: That just doesn't make any sense unless you want to

709
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: pick and choose where he goes. And if that's the case,

710
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Speaker 2: then you wouldn't send him to another AFC team.

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Speaker 3: He's not Barry Sanders that the career. I mean, if

712
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: you're afraid of him, you wouldn't cut him. It's really bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand that one at all.

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Speaker 3: I could see trading him for a six or seventh

715
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Speaker 3: or a bad I mean, if.

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Speaker 2: He has said that that the Jets were getting the

717
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: fourth round pick and the Ravens were getting the fifth. Now,

718
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: now I understand she gained some gain something. The Jets

719
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: are losing and they're losing.

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Speaker 3: That makes no sense. It'd be different if he was

721
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: a big contract thom you know. Here, take Russell Wilson

722
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: and in a first your seventh Okay, good, you know

723
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: the Ausweiler move. He's a free agency designed to one

724
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: year deal. Yeah, Gary paid the signing bones. I don't

725
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: get that one.

726
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: The Patriots and Raiders swap out out of favor wide receivers.

727
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: So the Patriots get Hunter Renfro and a twenty twenty

728
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: five seventh round draft pick. The Raiders get Kendrick Bourne.

729
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: Okay, now Renfro to the Patriots makes sense to me. Yeah,

730
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: kind of like j C. Jackson there because it's a

731
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: bad contract. They have so much cap space next year.

732
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Speaker 3: He might even lead the team in targets from here

733
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: on out. I mean, know who they are. But if

734
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: you watch the Patriots, Kendrick Bourne's like the only one

735
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: that's playing well on offense. Well, and I know he's

736
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: not a needle mover, but like he's the only one

737
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: that has any juice or gets open at all. I

738
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: don't think Bill likes him, but they.

739
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: I think he shows up late to meetings and stuff.

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah once camp last years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's in the doghouse for the rest of

742
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: his life. But like, if you actually watch their game,

743
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: it's like, throw the ball to boorn More. Yeah, don't

744
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: throw them, don't ship them out if it.

745
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Was Juju, can't throw them the ball, you know in Vegas. Uh,

746
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: The Bills get linebacker Jordan Hicks.

747
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense for them, better around the block.

748
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: He can be the green dot dude.

749
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: The Vikings get a twenty twenty four fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's the kind of deals those.

751
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: Those are the kind of deals that get made at

752
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: this time.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: Yes, the Cowboys get running back James Connor. He's on

755
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: IR right now. He's not going anywhere. Yeah, he's in fact,

756
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 2: he's on IR through the trade deadline.

757
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: Are you allowed to trade someone on IR? I don't

758
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: know it's ever happened that I've ever heard of. You

759
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: get a past physical, I mean, can teams wave a physical.

760
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering what the rules are.

761
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could wave the physical, but

762
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: you're taking on damaged property. You're gonna give up a

763
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: six round pick, which is what they're talking about, twenty

764
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: twenty five six round draft pick conditional. I get it.

765
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: But if he if he flunks the physical, now he

766
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: reverts back to the other Like, can't happen.

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00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: That can't happen two weeks ago when he was healthy. Yeah,

768
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: like that's a perfect guy they should target.

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Speaker 2: Can't happen?

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Speaker 3: They need to backup back.

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00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets get wide receiver Donovan People's Jones. Okay,

772
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: the Browns get Michole Hartman.

773
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: Why did the Browns say yes to that?

774
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not quite sure. That's just kind

775
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: of moving chairs or that's like a fantasy football trader.

776
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: I'll give you my receiver for your receiver. I'm betting

777
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: that you're betting that your receiver, the guy that you're

778
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: giving up, is going to be worse than But you

779
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: then try to talk the guy that you're trying to

780
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: trade the receivers with and to say, my guy's going

781
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: to be better than yours.

782
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: If that were the case, you wouldn't trade him. Unlike fantasy.

783
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: You could say, well, he doesn't fit our system. You know,

784
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: he fits your system better, And unlike fantasy, their salary

785
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: involved Hartman just signed a deal. He's making money.

786
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: People's jones are still in his rookie contract.

787
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Why they getting rid of people? And you drafted he

788
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: might be better than hard you drafted him. Yeah, like

789
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: you know what he is unless you hate him. I

790
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: just that doesn't make any sense. The Browns was taking

791
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 3: on more money.

792
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: The Seahawks get Frank Clark.

793
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: He's been there, carol.

794
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: The Broncos get a twenty twenty four six round draft pick.

795
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: Sure, he should get the contract out of here. Sounds

796
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: like Clark's going somewhere soon. Maybe it's even Seattle.

797
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: How about this one. The Chiefs get zach Ertz. Fine,

798
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: The Cardinals get a twenty twenty five six round draft pick.

799
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: Did the Chiefs really need another slow tight end?

800
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: And I'd say that they even have tight ends that

801
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: they play that aren't bad.

802
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got another guy they've got Like, are you

803
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: going to make a trade for zach Ertz and sell

804
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: gray A? You're not going to carry five of them?

805
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: Four of them?

806
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: Like, what do you? The one thing they.

807
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: Did do, though, post Tyreek last year was a much

808
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: more twelve and even thirteen personnel, And if you look

809
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: at the receiver room, and be like, I don't trust

810
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: any of you dudes.

811
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Ertz at least is in the right you can do

812
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: pull out the Ravens play booking six to six tight

813
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: ends on the field. Here we go.

814
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: But if I'm the Cards, it's a perfect guy.

815
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're gonna get rid of him. You know

816
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: he he's not in your future. But I don't see

817
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.

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00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: Don't know why the Chiefs would be the team to

819
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah.

820
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: Uh. The Eagles acquire Kawan Williams, cornerback.

821
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: Of the corner, the PI kid, right, Yeah.

822
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: Who's not been good this year. The Broncos get a

823
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five seventh round draft pick conditional.

824
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: What are the risk if you's a bright moment, if

825
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: you're the.

826
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: Broncos, you don't Why would you get rid of young guys? Yeah,

827
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: that's the problem that I have with the whole You know,

828
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: certain certain you don't trade young guys under rookie deals.

829
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: Dudes that are cheap and you know are good.

830
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are those are barn millstre I don't like

831
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: very many of those. No, no, no Steelers trades on there.

832
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: Okay, if I were buying, I don't think the Steelers

833
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: are selling.

834
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: No, they're not selling.

835
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: I would look for a defensive back. I mean, if

836
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: you could get a safety or a corner, preferably an

837
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: outside corner, I would be listening heartedly. Jalen Johnson, Justin

838
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: Simmons would be the big names. I think Certaine's probably

839
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: a pipe dream. And I'd even consider if there was

840
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: a safety on the open market. I mean, that's that's

841
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: not a hard place to find a veteran safety that's

842
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: been around the block or you know, yeah, we'll see.

843
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: I mean I listen, or i'd make a call.

844
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: I think you always listen. That's what always kills me

845
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: a trade deadline. Oh, this team is fielding calls on

846
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: this guy. That means that's typically coming from the team

847
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: that made the call, or an agent, yeah, or an agent.

848
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: And then and then for example, okay, let's Deshaun Watson.

849
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: The Browns are fielding calls on Deshaun Watson. Somebody called

850
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: up the Browns and said, hey, are you interested in

851
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: trading Deshaun Watson? The brown said no, They fielded the call.

852
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: I hate that term fielded the call. They're fielding calls

853
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: on somebody.

854
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: Because if you don't field the call, you're not doing

855
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: your job right, you know, like, what do you mean

856
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: you're not fling?

857
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: Hey, Bob, how you doing on? I'm not talking to you,

858
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, to hang up?

859
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: Hey, We want to offer you seven first round picks

860
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: for t. J. Watt. Okay, he's not on the block.

861
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm on AUFI, you know. But if you're gonna give

862
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: me your whole franchise and you know, the keys to

863
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: the stadium.

864
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna make me the Ricky Williams trading. We'll give

865
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: you the entire entire draft next year for so and

866
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: so forth.

867
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: Whatever I mean, I'll listen. I mean, you gotta field the.

868
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: Call, field the call, or fielding calls. It's the dumbest

869
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: thing that I've ever heard, not the dumbest, but it's

870
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: among them. Yeah, it's among them. Anyway, we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI.

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Speaker 2: and Matt just before we finished things up here, just

879
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: torn around here and I saw, you know, we've we've

880
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 2: talked about this a lot. There are and we talked

881
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: about with Bob, like six teams in the NFL right

882
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: now that are they look pretty complete.

883
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: We call them contenders. I guess super Bowl contenders. Yeah.

884
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't mean that the Super Bowl teams will

885
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: be picked out of.

886
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: The cream of the crop.

887
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got Philadelphia, San Francisco, Detroit Agreed, Kansas City, Miami, Buffalo,

888
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: So three teams out of each conference.

889
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: And I would not probably of Dallas seven, but not

890
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: in that group.

891
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: Not in that game. Yeah, they've not not shown themselves

892
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: to be quite at that level.

893
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: Lookansas City belongs right out of respect.

894
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they still got Mahomes. Yeah, if Mahomes

895
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: are out, then you know, of course everything's changed. So

896
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: looking here at at CBS Sports and they've got this

897
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: broken down this way they get there here, well, how

898
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: they how they couched us is a quarterly report on

899
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: all thirty two NFL teams heading into Week six. True

900
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: contenders the total nightmares. So they have the early heavyweights.

901
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: They have those six teams. Completely agree.

902
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 3: I don't. I would have the Niners in a category

903
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: above all those. But I see what they're saying.

904
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: I see what they're saying. Yeah, those are the six.

905
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: I get it, this is Tier one day, but I

906
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: do think the Niners are clearly one.

907
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: They then have five teams ranked as tooth and nail fighters.

908
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 3: That's a weird.

909
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: That's a weird, A weird way to put it. Because

910
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: if I were to say one thing about this particular

911
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers team.

912
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: They're always that, that would be they.

913
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: I would put them in that. And that's what you're

914
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: going to call this group, that's what I.

915
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: Would call them. I mean Tennessee's that yeah, right, It

916
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they're a Tier two team, right right right?

917
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: But here are the teams that he has there, Seattle, Tampa,

918
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay So.

919
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: Is are they saying that this is a Tier two though?

920
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: And just trying apparently? Okay, if they're saying it's a

921
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: tier two, I have Tampa.

922
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: Not not there no New Orleans, Jacksonville, and Los Angeles.

923
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: The Chargers, they wouldn't be my tier two. They certainly

924
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't wouldn't call them a tooth and nail fighter.

925
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: Either, not the charger.

926
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: No, that is a poor choice of words.

927
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, they don't have a lot in common either.

928
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: Then he has literally the a f C North all fourteen.

929
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I get it all right, but I just would

930
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: not the tooth and nail Fighters.

931
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: In which I would put all four of those AFC

932
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: North teams tooth and nail fighters.

933
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: That's that's what the AFC North is about, exactly. That's

934
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: a good point. But I don't mind lumping them together.

935
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: No, because I think, you know, you were talking earlier

936
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: that the Cincinnati Bengals are the best team in the

937
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: division right now. Right now, they're in last place.

938
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: Last place, and they could lose this week and be

939
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: in real trouble.

940
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: I just think that's where the division is that right now.

941
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: Then you have teams all the niners ahead of them. One.

942
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: Then he labels here all of the show that is Dallas.

943
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: That makes sense. I mean, they certainly could be more

944
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: flash than substance.

945
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: Uh. Then you've got a group here, mystery flavor for

946
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: better or worse, Better and worse Atlanta, Green Bay, Washington,

947
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: Chicago and the Raiders.

948
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: Okay, would you put all those teams in the same No,

949
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Atlanta is like the perfect example

950
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: of that. Green Bay is kind of that way. Like

951
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: the Raiders aren't good. I think the Chicago's not good.

952
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: Chicago's good.

953
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders might be might be better.

954
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: Like they're not a bottom tier for me, but no.

955
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 2: No, I think that they can. The Raiders can rise

956
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: up and beat anybody in a given week. They can

957
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: also lose to anybody in a given week.

958
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: I think they're talent strapped on defense too.

959
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: But as long as you have Max Crosby and you

960
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: can still outscore.

961
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Teams, yeah, I mean Jimmy's hot, Yeah, and they can

962
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: run the ball. Their offense is it's really good on

963
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 3: any given Sunday, right.

964
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: I think that's the difference there with them. I would

965
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: put them ahead in that before I put Washington or Chicago.

966
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: See Washington that way, and Chicago's looking good for a

967
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 3: totally bad rebuilding team.

968
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: Surprise spoilers, the Rams, the Colts, the Texans, the Jets,

969
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals.

970
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm not the Rams a little short.

971
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm not putting the Jets in that in that either

972
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: or the Cardinal Cardinals or the Cardinals, the Jets, and

973
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: the Cardinals don't belong on that when the Rams, Colts,

974
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: and Texans are all better teams in that. Yes, in fact,

975
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: I might put them in that previous group. I would

976
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: put them in there along with uarterback with Atlanta, Green

977
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: Bay and the Raiders because they could beat you in

978
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: any given week. I moved Chicago and Washington. Washington is

979
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: kind of a surprise team like that. They and they're okay,

980
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: they're okay, but they're not good enough to know.

981
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna get sacked like eight hundred times. Yeah, right.

982
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: And then the CEU in twenty twenty four is Carolina

983
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: and Minnesota.

984
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: Minnesota's in trouble, but they're they would beat Carolina eight

985
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: out of ten times. Yeah, I don't think limp.

986
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: You know, they've already beaten them once this year.

987
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're very different if you're gonna talk about

988
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: next year for those teams, one is the first overall

989
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: quarterback and one's probably gonna lose their quarterback. Yeah, you know,

990
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: like I don't see any similarities between those two teams.

991
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: And then Sad sorry nostalgia, two teams that haven't been

992
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: mentioned yet that would be New England and Tennessee.

993
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: Season a lot better shape in New England.

994
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh, we got every day is a new nightmare for

995
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: this there's there's just new. This is like descending in

996
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: the different different layers of hell here or the levels

997
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: of hell. Denver and the Giants.

998
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: It's really bad for both of them right now.

999
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: They're bottoming the rock bottom.

1000
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, rock flip. New England might be that might be there.

1001
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Bears are much better. I

1002
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: mean I don't know.

1003
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: That means.

1004
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: Quite a while ago I mentioned this off the air,

1005
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: and this doesn't mean that they're the worst team in

1006
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 3: the league. But if the draft were today, the Bears

1007
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: are to pick one and two, Yeah, which is pretty cool.

1008
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: How much fun would that be? And I think Denver

1009
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: has three. And if Denver blows this thing up, they

1010
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: may not win again. Yeah, I mean, if they get

1011
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: killed tonight and they're shipping everybody out, they may end

1012
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: up with one.

1013
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: Everything must go, everything must go, I.

1014
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: Mean I would. I'm not a tank person, but at

1015
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 3: this stage of where the Broncos season is and where

1016
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: they're at as an organization, I want the top two picks.

1017
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah they're bad, yeah, yeah, it's not good. It's not good,

1018
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: and there's it just goes to I mean, there's just

1019
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: some real blah out there right now.

1020
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: There really is. I mean this was all cute and

1021
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: all with the little titles, but if you were to

1022
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: tear them, I think there's five or six awful teams. Yeah, yeah,

1023
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: I mean Carolina's one. New England's won, definitely, Denver Giants.

1024
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: Chicago's not out of the woods.

1025
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: Chicago's like the best of that group. And I'm not

1026
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: sure Arizona's out of the woods.

1027
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: I think I think I think Arizona's in that.

1028
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: I think the works has got to come.

1029
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: I think team when you have the new coach coming

1030
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 2: in and he throws some new stuff out there. And now,

1031
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: as we mentioned, when they were playing early, they played

1032
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: all their all the AFC or NFC East opponents, the

1033
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 2: teams that he knew.

1034
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: And wait until a team like that has an injury

1035
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 3: or two. Yeah, I mean, Connor's not the biggest injury.

1036
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: But now you're playing guys and does ever heard of it?

1037
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: Running back?

1038
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: That's the one that keeping an eye on this week

1039
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: with the Rams, for example, the Steelers play the Rams

1040
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 2: next week. They have a couple of injuries this week

1041
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: in that game. They're particularly on defense.

1042
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: Tampa's that way, you know, like, Okay, you started strong,

1043
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: you won a lot of games the last two years, Rams, Tampa,

1044
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: but you don't have any depth because of salary cap reasons,

1045
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: and some point it probably will.

1046
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: It will catch up. Ye'll catch up too.

1047
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 3: The Rams. I think they've lost three of their last

1048
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: four and the game they won was an overtime. Yeah,

1049
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: so that could be the first couple of chinks that

1050
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: you know, you lose guy on defense here and there,

1051
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: and then you're playing.

1052
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: It's a very thin line that you have to watch.

1053
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: That's fragile. Fregie Lay. Yeah, absolutely, that's going to do

1054
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Speaker 2: it for our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

1055
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: for the Reverend Justin Miller keeping us on the air,

1056
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Speaker 2: we appreciate that, and I'm Dale Allie. We also appreciate

1057
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Speaker 2: you listening to this edition of The Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio.