WEBVTT - Where's the Ring? with Lexi Buchanan

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<v Speaker 1>How I Suck at Dating with de Ungler and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Haven and I heard radio podcast. All right, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>an all new episode of help by Suck at Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jared Haven joined by Dean Hunger. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>very special guest on the line, and we just heard

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<v Speaker 1>that it's her first podcast ever, and I'd argue she's

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<v Speaker 1>joining the greatest podcast of all time. It is Lexie

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<v Speaker 1>Buchanan from season twenty four, also known as Peter Webber

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<v Speaker 1>season of The Bachelor. Lexie, howaiya good? How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? Oh, thanks for coming. So where are you

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<v Speaker 1>in the country right now? I'm gonna Ryland. Dean's in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that's correct. Ye. I am in Arlington, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>so right outside of DC, and um, yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>here for about two years now. So my wife actually

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<v Speaker 1>is from Great Falls. Yeah, I M I probably just

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<v Speaker 1>tell people d C because no one really realizes that

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<v Speaker 1>for Arlington's right outside of it and I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We like have a little house and I have my

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<v Speaker 1>own backyard and a driveway, so very different from New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I my fiance is from Fredericksburg. Really we create

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<v Speaker 1>a little triangle down there, which, um, that's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it out there too. I went out there last

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<v Speaker 1>year or two years ago for a Thanksgiving and I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been to d C or anywhere in that area

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<v Speaker 1>and it was nice. So, um, kutas to you. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a great place. Obviously if Ashley and Klin

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<v Speaker 1>can be from there, I don't see how anyone could

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<v Speaker 1>speak ill of it, right, No, I can think of

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<v Speaker 1>some things. Yeah, yeah, there's probably some things that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>so savory. Um. But Lexi, So it's your first podcast ever.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so honored to have you part of the experience

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<v Speaker 1>here with us um and as a co host then

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<v Speaker 1>the less so you we saw you on Peter season. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you been up to since then? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>was like, at this point, that was like three years

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<v Speaker 1>ago now, wasn't it was a long time ago? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>actually as of September it was three years ago. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pre COVID It honestly feels like a lifetime ago. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so much has changed, but I think I credit a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it to going on the show. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm in a very happy relationship. Um, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of happened right after this show and from there

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to Arlington. Raham Now, I UM love my job.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a dog. That is my whole life. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I became one of those dog people. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>just happens to you, whether you wanted to or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when I went on this show, I

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<v Speaker 1>was in New York, I loved my life. I was

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<v Speaker 1>very single, dating a lot, like definitely looking for a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I was I didn't know what I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to find myself and I think the show

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<v Speaker 1>helped me find what I actually wanted in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was looking for in a partner. Uh, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put some pieces together. And um, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I personally don't think I was built for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hard and I'm not a competitor when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to dating. Like I loved the girls. I just

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with all the girls and my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw how much they liked you know, Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I liked him too. But I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you guys are connecting, Like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get in the way of that, like I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to it seems like you guys really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so I don't know it was I struggled with

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<v Speaker 1>the competitive aspect. I absolutely love it. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>best time and it was such a good experience. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it helps me leaving the show know who

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<v Speaker 1>I was and what I wanted in a relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of set me up for success. To your

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<v Speaker 1>point about the other girls forming connections, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that just makes you um less willing to lie on

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<v Speaker 1>TV about something, because I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people will inflate their feelings towards the person that they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be just makes a better human being at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. Yeah, I mean that's good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean I I guess that's true. I was

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<v Speaker 1>very honest and I didn't realize that other maybe part

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<v Speaker 1>of it was kind of lying to yourself a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit too, maybe inflate that connection. But I mean we've

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<v Speaker 1>all been through it. You're so wrapped up in that

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<v Speaker 1>moment and those are your only thoughts and that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you really know, so it you know. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like Peter. I did. I really was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the point parts of us that connected, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were some things that I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>could actually see myself with this person, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for more of a connection and not necessarily, um,

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<v Speaker 1>just a fiance, right, fiance for the sake of fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>So good for you, right, good for you? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then how did you meet your boyfriend? Was

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<v Speaker 1>there any type of like sliding into the d m

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<v Speaker 1>s afterwards? Because you say you credit a lot from

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and so I would imagine there has to

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<v Speaker 1>be some like connection there, right, Yes, Well, we actually

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<v Speaker 1>dated in college, so I knew him in college. We

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<v Speaker 1>moved to New York together, we were kind of together,

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<v Speaker 1>and about nine months in he broke up with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was devastated, like beyond devastated. I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>that he was the person I was going to be with,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of shocked me. But it ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being the best thing because we were best friends

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<v Speaker 1>and both of us being right out of college being

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<v Speaker 1>new to New York, like we needed the time to

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<v Speaker 1>be individuals and just experienced the city and focus on

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<v Speaker 1>career and our own wants and goals and um, not

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<v Speaker 1>that we couldn't do that together, but it was just

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<v Speaker 1>too early. So um, I like was shocked that he

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<v Speaker 1>broke up with I still tell them that where we're

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<v Speaker 1>together now and I'm like, I still can't believe you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, did that, but uh, not to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>old wounds. But you know, now I'm curious. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's it's really not even a wound, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it just part of our story now. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was a little scary, it was all

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<v Speaker 1>too much, too young. I wanted to focus on career

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<v Speaker 1>and and I, you know, I thanked him. We ran

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<v Speaker 1>into each other at a bar like nine months later,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, you know, like, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you doing that, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I had this strength to do it. But in hindsight,

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<v Speaker 1>it was what needed to happen. Um, neither of us

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<v Speaker 1>ever had a bad word to say about each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we we kind of ran in the same

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<v Speaker 1>circles in New York, but never really crossed paths, which

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Um, but we both would hear, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we only has good things to say about you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the same, and then you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was going on the show is really I think me

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<v Speaker 1>putting that to bed, being like, okay, that relationship is over,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that ended in Like, I didn't go on

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<v Speaker 1>the show until so those three years I was just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, exploring the dating of New York, which is

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<v Speaker 1>way harder than The Bachelor. And yeah, people are career

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<v Speaker 1>focused and I like that. I think it's a city

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, focusing on work. And when I think

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<v Speaker 1>when I think of a guy in New York, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of a guy in a suit with slicked back hair,

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<v Speaker 1>clean shaven, on a scooter on his way to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, like the amount of electric scooters.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're grown anyway, continue, But that's that I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume is the dating pool in New York. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you get a mix of everybody in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I think, um, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>breakup was definitely a pivotal point in my personal growth

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<v Speaker 1>of like, Okay, I'm going to be more of an individual.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in New York. He it was hard, but he

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<v Speaker 1>really did do me a favor. So let me just

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<v Speaker 1>live my life and see what happens. Um. So I

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<v Speaker 1>did that. The show happened, and I end up going

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, and obviously, and then I get back,

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<v Speaker 1>I get my phone and I had a text message

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<v Speaker 1>from him, just really nice. We hadn't talked in years,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, so proud of you for putting yourself

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I think it's awesome. You're gonna make your

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<v Speaker 1>family like. So it was just a really kind, nice message.

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<v Speaker 1>This person is my my best friend like for years.

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<v Speaker 1>So um it made me like emotional and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I be getting this emotionally, I haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>talked to you in years and no offense, But I

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<v Speaker 1>cared more about this person than like the experience that

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<v Speaker 1>I just did for six weeks. So it put things

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<v Speaker 1>in perspective for me of like, that was a connection

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<v Speaker 1>that I think I'll always have. I wanted the best

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<v Speaker 1>for him regardless, like let it go and maybe it'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back. And we started dating. I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>go on paradise because I now have, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>new relationship. And then COVID happened, so I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about that and here we are two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years later. So for for all of

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<v Speaker 1>its flaws that the show has, I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great things about it is, um, if you're gone

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<v Speaker 1>long enough, you have the experience to like see what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like living life without your cell phone, right or

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<v Speaker 1>like other distractions. It's it's great, right. And then so

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<v Speaker 1>it like forces you to think of and focus on

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<v Speaker 1>things that maybe you wouldn't before or like dive deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into them. And I think it's interesting because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there are a few people that have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the show, and while you're killing the hours

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<v Speaker 1>of downtime that you have, all you're doing is thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about like back home and people that you know and

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<v Speaker 1>all these things. Like I don't know, it just it

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<v Speaker 1>does kind of help provide some some clarity and other

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<v Speaker 1>assets or other places of your life. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely it's so interesting. Is like you're like supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the show dating a person, and like

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<v Speaker 1>even when I was on the show the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about my ex girlfriend and I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just weird. It's like why am

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<v Speaker 1>I even thinking about this girl? And I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing this girl? But I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in the on the show, like you have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about such serious things, like you're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>how will our families you know, like each other when

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<v Speaker 1>they meet, or how will we build a life together?

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<v Speaker 1>Now now that you you know the person you're dating

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<v Speaker 1>on the show lives in X city and your ine

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<v Speaker 1>y city, Like, how will we make that work? You're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about like real things, So I think, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to reflect on past relationships. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>as far as my relationship, this was my big love

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<v Speaker 1>and I was really like, I thought that was really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stick. So I went on the show and I

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<v Speaker 1>explored other options and it kind of just ended up

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<v Speaker 1>leading me back to that person. So for me, it worked,

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<v Speaker 1>just not the way normally. Doice. I also think going

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<v Speaker 1>on the show makes people confront the fact that their

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<v Speaker 1>significant other or their ex significant other has finally moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've heard a lot of stories about

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<v Speaker 1>people going on the show and then they're back together

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<v Speaker 1>with their X and it's interesting because I do I

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<v Speaker 1>went through a similar situation obviously much different because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happily married with Ashley, but where there was an X

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<v Speaker 1>and I was on the show and it caused them

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<v Speaker 1>to come back into the picture. Because it's weird seeing

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<v Speaker 1>your ex date someone else, and really it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>just date someone else. It it makes you think like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're done, they're over, like they have moved on

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<v Speaker 1>with their life. It is over between you two. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of people have this negative

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<v Speaker 1>condemnation towards that, which I don't agree with, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think people are flawed and I think if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you're flawed, then you're full of crap. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think some people need to kick in the ass. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes people need a put to do, to

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<v Speaker 1>act or to follow their heart. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know. I don't think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>such a bad thing, you know, because like there'd be

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that when that guy reached out to you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you told your friends, your friends probably told that,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, tell this guy to kick rocks. Get that,

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<v Speaker 1>like now you're on the show and he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>reach back out, and you know, in more words, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of oh he's only back because he went

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, But that genuinely wasn't like it just

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<v Speaker 1>knowing him, he's not really a person for the spotlight

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<v Speaker 1>in general, but like you said, he goes. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thought you could really be married, like you could

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<v Speaker 1>be engaged, and then that would be it and absolute really,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, we had four years that we could

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<v Speaker 1>have tried it again and we really didn't. We really like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna let bygones and icons and just be

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<v Speaker 1>happy for each other and support ab of each other

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<v Speaker 1>people with the classic Jared Haben out of his hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn right, he pops on instead of pulling a rabbit,

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<v Speaker 1>pulls a little patchy facial here boy pulling out of

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<v Speaker 1>the hat. Yeah yeah, he says, Oh, you're into someone

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<v Speaker 1>else not happening, So you're coming with me? Now the

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<v Speaker 1>time to act, right, I mean now, I mean we've

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<v Speaker 1>stood the test of time. I think there was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>some initial like are you sure you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into that? You know, like you you're you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor. Why would you not go on Paradise? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would you say no to this? And I'm like, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what I care about. I'm like, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like I genuinely I cared more about finding Well,

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<v Speaker 1>did you like, do you make him sweat it out

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while? At least? I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, actually made me sweat it out a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months, not not too long. But it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>timing because we went like our first like we hung

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<v Speaker 1>out in New York in February, like around Valentine's Ish time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then New York shut down in March twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>so like a month later COVID happened, we would have gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and we both never went back to New York. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we didn't, you know, like actually meet up or

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<v Speaker 1>hang out within that month of time, we may never have.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's just funny how timing works. So you

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<v Speaker 1>guys been together for two and a half years. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any because and you guys aren't engaged, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not engaged, is there any talk of engagement

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<v Speaker 1>coming up? Yeah? I mean we we go to so

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<v Speaker 1>many weddings. I feel like all I've done this year

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<v Speaker 1>and go to friends weddings, and now it's to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where it's like, oh, any anything, Like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, it's definitely in the cards, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be totally surprised, and I have not pressuring him whatsoever. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. We're we're definitely on the way there,

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<v Speaker 1>but how much longer? How long can you last without

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<v Speaker 1>eventually having to apply a little bit of pressure. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. I'm almost thirty. I'll be thirty in June,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what our birthdays or three days apart.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're planning some sort of big thirtieth birthday trip

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<v Speaker 1>and he's probably gonna watch this podcast later. So if

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to do it around my thirtieth birthday on

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<v Speaker 1>our big trip, that would be fine. That's then you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised. That's true. God, Jared, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere around that, and we're in the thirties. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be like a. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>UM thirty three and you know, still be dating. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's kind of my window. But now that you

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<v Speaker 1>have said it and you think he's not gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to be surprised, maybe now he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it because it's like a like a reverse psychology

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, you know. I'm a I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>advocate for for that idea solely because I want all

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<v Speaker 1>like um anniversaries to be on the same date. I

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<v Speaker 1>really want, like, like, if you guys have two birthdays

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<v Speaker 1>three days apart, why not just throwing engagement in there.

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<v Speaker 1>On the same right around the same day. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>have the same type of life, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the same moment here because he's like that was he

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<v Speaker 1>actually asked me to be his girlfriend right around our birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>so that could just all be one beegnd, I love it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're recently engaged, and I know that was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a long time coming. So congrats, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. But and that's where this she I

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<v Speaker 1>told her it was going to happen before the end

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<v Speaker 1>of so she uh, she claimed she didn't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think she did no more than she's putting on.

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<v Speaker 1>She was more angry than anything else. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta marry this guy now. But it's funny. Oh yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking more just spending the rest of her

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<v Speaker 1>life with this difference right here. But she's already signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for that, so it was the hike that she

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<v Speaker 1>probably didn't sign up for that day. Well, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about our wedding and she was asking when I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get married, and I said, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get married on the same day we got engaged. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>we could just like have one anniversary. But it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out the same day. Next year's on a Tuesday, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, great, let's get married on a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously that's not gonna happen, so obviously going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I agree, I agree, but I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a Tuesday wedding be totally out of the box. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my dream, but you celebrate all week after, so

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<v Speaker 1>you just have like a whole That sounds great. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I should do that. You should only try to base

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship in your wedding around content for this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and having a wedding on a Tuesday gives us talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>So on a Thursday, that's right, that's right. Um, if

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<v Speaker 1>if I had it my way, that's how we would

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But the thing is it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>my day, so it's mostly her column the shots, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. I'm fine with it. You know, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to come around a lot like I'm like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of with you. Now, let's just celebrate our birthday

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<v Speaker 1>and our dating anniversary in one weekend. There's always a day,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always some listening. So Jared, let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>So you now you started dating on a certain day,

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<v Speaker 1>you got engaged, on a certain day, you got married

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<v Speaker 1>on a certain day. You celebrate birthdays. Do you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>do something for every single one of those occasions? You

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<v Speaker 1>dropped them, Like, once you get married, you can drop

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<v Speaker 1>the engagement. So that's what I signed up for, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently not because still every every year because my wife

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<v Speaker 1>has a hundred and twenty thousand photos on her phone

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, so every day it's a constant reminder. This

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<v Speaker 1>is when we first said I love each other. This

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<v Speaker 1>is when you came out with your feelings. This is

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<v Speaker 1>when we first started dating. This is when we officially

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<v Speaker 1>started first dating. This is when we got engaged. This

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<v Speaker 1>is when I called my grandmother to tell her we

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<v Speaker 1>got engaged. This is my birthday, This is our wedding anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's holidays, this is my nieces. Because the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is families got it. Literally every day is something sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to like go on that tangent, but there's always like

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<v Speaker 1>that you needed to get that off your chest. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just need a lot of calendars. We didn't strike

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<v Speaker 1>a nerve, it seems like we have. You guys ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen the show Parks and Recreation. Yes, I love that

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<v Speaker 1>show too. Leslie, Nope. There's an episode where she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>she does that exact same thing. She's like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the time that and and I first heard Taylor Swift together.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the time that we first ate our pancakes together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's kind of how actually comes across to me

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of celebrating annivers Its very sweet, but it

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<v Speaker 1>would make my life so much easier if I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you both if it was just around the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Granted five years ago, when I didn't have as much

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Of course, I was the person saying, no,

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<v Speaker 1>get married on a different day, like have different days,

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy it. But now there's just too much going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, let's just narrow this down as much

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, so I you know, we can actually like

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy our lives a little bit anyway, anyway, um anniversaries,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can just take a back seat, I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I will. It's it's hard because he gets

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<v Speaker 1>so much attention, rightfully, so um that like sometimes I'll

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<v Speaker 1>smother human attention and naturally's like I want attention, and

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like I'm being a good father. Leave me alone, woman, Lexie,

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<v Speaker 1>do you see kids in the future for you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if and when you end up getting married. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm part of a big family. I have five

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<v Speaker 1>younger siblings, so I grew up like in a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>household with tons of little kids turunning around. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, I want, like to max but um, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have kids. Is this something you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about and it's like everyone knows, like all on

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<v Speaker 1>the same page and everything. Yeah, we talked about literally everything. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We just like we like to plan, we like to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like how it will be, but we don't, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We don't have like a set plan,

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<v Speaker 1>which I personally like. I like I said, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to be surprised. But yeah, it's getting to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where, like I said, I'm getting to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that's young, but it's to me a milestone.

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<v Speaker 1>H I'm like, wow, I should probably being more of

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<v Speaker 1>a planner. Well, especially if you want two kids. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is young, but you do have your biological clock.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that you need to keep keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>when you do. When you guys do end up getting married,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you picture your wedding over the top extravagant

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<v Speaker 1>or like a low key elopement. Um, I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I want something kind of in the middle. I want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be small ish, like intimate, but definitely it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a celebration. Um. I kind of want a

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<v Speaker 1>destination wedding, which I don't know if people like or

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<v Speaker 1>don't like. But both of our families live in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't really want a wedding in Florida. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So you could do like St. Bart's or Caribbean or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm one of like it sounds like silly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just not one of those people that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever really thought about their wedding. I'm someone decisive. I

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<v Speaker 1>changed my mind so much like my my opinions change,

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<v Speaker 1>my style changes. I feel like by the time I

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<v Speaker 1>get married, I'll have an exact idea of what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. We're still always we're not even engaged yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess I was kind of jumping the gun

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit there. Rings Ring Shapes is where we're Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about that. Like you said, he might listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcast, So just generally speaking, not to anyone specific,

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<v Speaker 1>what type of engagement ring style? Would you prefer really

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<v Speaker 1>simple like just school band one diamond um, like emerald

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<v Speaker 1>cut or just a round cut? Um? Yeah? How many?

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<v Speaker 1>How many carrots are we looking at here? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be picky. I have small hands, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think like even one carrot would look really big on

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<v Speaker 1>my hands. So exactly do you feel like you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I jinxing myself by tomorrow and like seeing Um?

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because you have the exact same style as

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylin's thin gold band one emerald cut diamond um, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is coming back like just a really classic

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and I think that's that's what I want? Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny too that you said you have small hands.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Wells about his engagement ring to

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah and he's like, I'm lucky man. Sarah's got small hands,

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<v Speaker 1>so the diamond ring looks way bigger on her than

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<v Speaker 1>it actually is. So he's like a baby hands and

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<v Speaker 1>I really have child hands, so he's he's he can

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<v Speaker 1>get me like an actual child. So I was ring

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<v Speaker 1>and it would probably fit. I think I have a

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half really small fingers. Oh wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>is small. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say I think

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<v Speaker 1>Caln's is six. Yeah, fun factor on me. Child hands. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I did get because I lost Caylin's first engagement ring,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to get her a second one, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's only it's a small little baby half caret and

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<v Speaker 1>even that one looks pretty big because she's got small

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<v Speaker 1>hands as well. But any update on Nope, I cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>the garage yesterday. I still no ring, so moving on

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to the next room in the house. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well but one of those things where you just like

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<v Speaker 1>blacked out because you had so you're so much pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on you about this ring and you don't remember where

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's just it's just me generally being an idiot. Um.

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I thought about it two I've done I've done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like personal reflection and introspection about this, and

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is gonna sound so late. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like sitting meditating for like an hour one day,

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>just like breathing and just trying to like access a

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<v Speaker 1>part of my brain that I've never accessed before, just

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, there's no if I can't remember doing something,

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>how can I be certain that I ever did it?

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>In the like you know, in the first place, and

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>so I sat there for an hour, didn't say anything,

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>kept my eyes closed and just tried to focus, and

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I got bored, so so bored. But I was like,

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I have to do this, and it was walking by

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>right now, isn't explaining this story and I couldn't. I

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>couldn't remember it at all, and I like, I kept

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>hitting this roadblock, and I was like, then, I just

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't have moved it. It It wasn't me. And then

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>just this past week, I've um, I've had a couple

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of things in the exact same vein that I know

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm the only person that's touched and they're just completely

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<v Speaker 1>missing now. So I know I've accepted full responsibility. At

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>this point in my life, I have moved it. I

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>accept that fate of mine. I just don't know where

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it is, but it'll turn up still eventually. At some point,

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I think she's messing with you and just moving stuff around.

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>She really could be. It could be. I do agree,

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>there's like a sliver of chance that she's just messing

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>with me, moving up around. Maybe she stole the ring

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and she's going to propose to you with said ring. Yes,

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>that would be. That would be a baller move. But

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I I think there's less Yeah, I think there's anything

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>else in the world. Yeah, I would agree, But man,

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>what a great ending it would be. Yeah, wouldn't that

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>be cool? He didn't lose the right now, that's yeah,

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the silver line that would probably part. Uh. Well,

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 1>we do have some hot topics that we want to

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>get to. Um So before we do that, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. Welcome back to help I Suck at

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<v Speaker 1>Dating Dean myself. Lexi Buchanan is a special guest host today.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have some hot topics we want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to before we wrap this podcast up. The first one

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<v Speaker 1>is about, well, what I guess I would say is,

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal opinion, the goat power couple. Because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer Tom ad Zell, it's Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that that there? Most like, do you

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.640
<v Speaker 1>think that that that's the goat power couple? Now? Number

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Ray says ja Z and Beyonce, But jay Z cheated

0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and Lively that's a good one. What about Mila an Ashton? Yeah,

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>they they're like probably up there. What about don't feel

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>as real to me? What about Cluney and I'm all,

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>well wait, Cluney, now get the hell out of here

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>with that. Um Actually, I don't even know. This is

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>all like personal bias as well, the fact that I

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>love Benefer so much because j Lo is like the

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Queen of Queens and Ben's like such a rugged Boston

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>guy who's just like you know, was an alcoholic, performed himself,

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I can't belave he's with Jennifal Lopez again.

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so amazing. But yeah, Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest, I really like Ryan Reynolds, but

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never been a He's just there's just too much.

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's too much of the same with with Ryan Reyolds

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>for me right now. It's just I need him to

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit different some of his movies, or

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a different character, because like even in all the interviews

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I see, it's like he's dead everywhere he is, so

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>like I I just really need Ryan Ralds to do

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>something different and then I'll be back on the Ryan

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Railds train. Anyway, this is not about that. I move

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>on Jennifer Lopez on dating Ben Affleck for the first time,

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>way back twenty years ago, when I was still a teenager. Quote.

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>It turned out to really bite us. So j Low

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>reflects on a relationship the first time around with Ben Affleck. Quote,

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>we were so young and so in love at that time,

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>really very care free, no kids, no attachments. We were

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>just living our lives, being happy out there. It didn't

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like we needed to hide from anybody or really

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>be discreet at all. Now, obviously they broke up in

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand four, and she said quote, we were just

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>living out loud, and it turned out to really bite us.

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot underneath the surface there, people not

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>wanting us to be together, people think I wasn't the

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>right person for him. I never shot away from the fact,

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>uh that for me, I always felt like there was

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>real love there, a true love there. People in my

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>life know that he was very very special in my life.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>When we reconnected, those feelings for me were still very real.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I recommend this for everybody. Sometimes

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you outgrow each other or you just grow differently. The

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>two of us we lost each other and found each other.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>So Lexie, I feel like this kind of is a

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit of your guys story as well, where you

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>broke up needed to go your separate ways and then

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you came back together. I as someone who's also kind

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>of gone through the same thing, and dean to the

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>very very small fraction of it because it was only

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a few days where he left and came back. I

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm sometimes distance makes the heart grow fonda,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you kind of need to let something go

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and see if it comes back to you. I agree

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>with that. I mean, I think that it's all about

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>timing truly, Like you can always that can always be

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a connection or the right person in the you know,

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>in one sense of the word. But the timing and

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>whether or not it really like works out, um, I

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>think is really critical. Like I knew that he was

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>right person for me, or I had that inkling, but

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I was so young I wasn't really ready for it,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and now I'm just distracted by the cue. Furry man

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that joined this also agrees distance makes the heart grow fonder. Um, yeah,

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I agree with that. I think to Lexi's experience,

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>not to obviously speak for Alexei, but you were saying

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys did a little bit in college. It's kind

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of nice that way because you kind of get like

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>build a foundation, and then you go off and do

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>your own thing for a little bit, and then you

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>come back and you remember how great something was, and

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>then you're just like a better person at that time

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>in your life. Anyway, So um yeah, I mean I

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>don't And Jared happened to you too. Well. I think

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>j Loo and Ben are a little bit of the

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>exception as well. I mean they said they went off

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>their separate ways. I mean Ben had kids. Does Jlo

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>have kids? Okay? She does? Sorry with Mark Anthony, Mark Anthony,

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Alexi. See I could just ask Lexi. I

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>don't need Ashley for information. Uh. But they went off,

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>they got married, had kids with other people, and then

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>each one of them obviously got divorced and came back

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to each other. Um, so that's, you know, a little

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>bit of exception to the rule. But I also think,

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, it's not m hm like to

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>your point, Lexi, when John ended up ending things with

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you and then you guys went your separate ways and

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.239
<v Speaker 1>then you came back to each other. I mean I

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>think that you should let an X prove that he's

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>still into you if they want to get back together

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.479
<v Speaker 1>with you. You know, Ashley certainly they did that with me.

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.719
<v Speaker 1>It seems like Lexie, you did that with John. So

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I would recommend if like sure, timing can work out,

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>but if there has to be some discretion where you

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>have to make sure that they're not just doing this

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>out of jealousy, that if they're they want to get

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>back with you, they have to really prove it and

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>they have to, you know, put effort in and you

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>have to see changes in growth before you can really

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>commit to the person totally. I mean then my personal experience,

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it was really just a matter of timing. I think

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>if you know, the relationship has a lot of issues,

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and you have trust issues or infidelity issues or whatever

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>it may be, um and it was a toxic relationship

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>or a bad relationship, and then that person comes back

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>years later when you're clearly doing well and they try

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>to get back in your life, Yeah, I don't. I

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>would never. I don't think I would have even entertained

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it or considered opening that door again. I think because

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it was such a good relationship and I went out

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and dated and really explored and I just never found

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that connection again. And I even went to the extent

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of you know, putting myself out there on TV and

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>really like seeing what could be um, and I always

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of had him in my mind, but I was

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>ready to shut that and see if there was someone

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>else that was better suited for me. So I think

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>really putting that to bed and then it ending up

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>coming back, but it being such a positive relationship and

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it only being like it it was. It was always

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>what I was looking for. It wasn't me just falling

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>back into something or um, you know, just accepting what

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was it was. We gave it time, We really let

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>each other go, We really grew as people, and we

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>came back at the right time and we're able to

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>form something stronger than before. M Yeah, I um, I

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>agree with how much and put on this topic Ben talk,

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be. I think that's what it's coming down to.

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not my favorite subject. You know, I kind of

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>zone out when it comes to the the hot topics.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>The dating headlines of the couples are hard because I

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.959
<v Speaker 1>just feel like there's like a little bit of you know,

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the media involved. Yeah. I don't like to say because

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I really don't feel like we know them at all.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>But I just used to support Ben and j Love

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's great. I definitely support them, and I support

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you and supporting them. I don't support you and supporting

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>him supporting them. Um. It's just it's something I've never

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>It's hard, it's not hard. But Calin is really into

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>these these things as well. Maybe not as much as Ashley. Um,

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>but she is always interested in what's going on in

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>in all these these people's lives, which is great. I'm

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>happy that she's interested in it. But I just I

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>can't seem to to find the care, you know. Not

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that it's not that, not that I don't care about them.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I just I think, like you guys said, I think

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>media can sometimes paint a picture of someone and then um,

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't get the full picture, and then you know,

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's wrong or maybe it's right or whatever. And

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>then I just feel like, because it's happened to me

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 1>before too, where the media has done said something about

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>my relationship that was entirely false, and so maybe I've

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>just taken that and I'm like, well, if there's lying

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>about my relationship, there may be lying about everyone else's relationship.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>To see, I'm not really into like the gossip. That

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really get my interest. It's more of the relatability

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>with these couples that really like the Ben Flick dunkin

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Donuts photos. If you guys have seen that where he's

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like carrying the duncan through through the front door and

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>he's disheveled and he's like spilling the coffee like that

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I love so much, And like there's that video. It's

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the funniest thing. It's where Ben and Jayla are walking

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>through and then somebody comes up to him and he's like, oh, yeah, no,

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it's good to see you. And then as soon as

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he turns his head, his smile immediately just gets dead

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>serious and he's like, oh, it's good to see you.

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And it was the most relatable thing. I was like,

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. So that's what that's what gets me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really care about the gassip Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad that they have to be on all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like even the tiny little bit of attention

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<v Speaker 1>that I got post show, I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>the people are people know me in a restaurant like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to like always, they just have to. You

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you have to be perfect. So I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine being Ben in gent Oh my god. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's eventually, I think, eventually, guess to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where they like just like maybe at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>for them, I bet you they were like always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be polished and put together. But I bet you eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially now that they're older, they're kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>like who the who the hell cares? You know? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hence the the and the massive phoenix on

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<v Speaker 1>his back, like the crazy tattoo, middle aged tattoo. I

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<v Speaker 1>have one more hot topic before we wrap up. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the next hot topic. It's my

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<v Speaker 1>turn to talk about great Love It Because you always

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<v Speaker 1>got to read the emails. I want to read the

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<v Speaker 1>email and I want to read this one. So it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out Ellie Golding, who is the singer. Obviously, she

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<v Speaker 1>is married to Casper Choppling and they have a child together.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ellie Golding is now on the celebrity dating app

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<v Speaker 1>raya UM. According to the article, she's on there just

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<v Speaker 1>to make friends and to meet fellow celebrities in the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, so I want to I want to turn

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<v Speaker 1>it around and ask you guys the same question, Ash

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<v Speaker 1>or Jared if you found out actually was on RAYA

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<v Speaker 1>or any dating app. How would you react and same

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<v Speaker 1>to you, extee if you found out your partner was

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<v Speaker 1>on a dating app and then like, obviously they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I just want to meet friends, but really,

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<v Speaker 1>are they really there just for that? Yeah? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so. If you're in a public relationship and you're

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<v Speaker 1>on Riya, you're either one being truthful that you are

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<v Speaker 1>only on there for business purposes, or be you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a open relationship. That's really the two ways, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like Ellie Golding is going to cheat on her

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<v Speaker 1>husband Casper in the open. Everybody knows, like if actually

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<v Speaker 1>had a Riyah, Yeah, Ashley's too known, just like Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>Goulding is too known, there's going to be a headline.

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<v Speaker 1>So clearly your partner has to know, and okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>I would think unless Ellie is like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>only way I'm going to get away with this is

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<v Speaker 1>if it's in the open, because no one would ever

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<v Speaker 1>believe I'd be so stupid to do this. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I think of if she was actually cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>But my point being, it's either business purpose. I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>out within the next month and this is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>stunt that could be probably most likely that's smart, Lexie.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta start doing stuff like that. Alright, LEXI, your partner,

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<v Speaker 1>if you found him on bumble or hinge or riya,

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>how would you react? Um? Not well? Not react? Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I I mean we were just communications, very big were

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about everything. So I'd be really surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't tell me before and it was just for

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that purpose. So um, yeah, if I if I found

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<v Speaker 1>out and he didn't tell me before, I think there'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a reason he was hiding it because he is

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<v Speaker 1>not Ellie Golden, and it would be very low key

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>if he did that. That's true. And also what a

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>thing like cheating obviously is horrible in any facet or

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>any whatever. But to just make it a dating account

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<v Speaker 1>and not tell your partner about it would be borderline psychotic,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel, because I mean, that's that's cheating because you're

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<v Speaker 1>like personally, I think any thing you try to hide

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<v Speaker 1>is in the realm of cheating. If you're in an

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<v Speaker 1>open or honest relationship, and you really shouldn't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to hide anything. There's gotta be things that

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<v Speaker 1>even the most honest people hide. Though, Yeah, I guess

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that's but like what, like, what would you be hiding.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. Kalin's never farted in front of me. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>just definitely talk about borderline psychotic. Is your stomach still operating?

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<v Speaker 1>I think pre wedding it has to happen like just

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>one just to hear it. Yeah, but that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's like kind of her hiding something from you, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine Kalin's farts are so cute, like they're I

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<v Speaker 1>bet they're like I bet they sound exactly like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like, Jared want we talk about my parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially's farts are one thing like actually, it's like we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen them, We've seen him, I heard, but Kalin's parts,

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine, like how did that go? It's just that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I imagine. Thanks. I'm glad that you're marriaging and

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Cain's farts right now. That's good to hear. Um. Yeah,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>loves that we're talking about this. Yeah, Jared, Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you withhold from Ashley? No? Unfortunately not she's

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<v Speaker 1>raised comfortable. Did you get insurance on the ring? Um?

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I barely have insurance on my body yet, I don't

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>have insurance there. He doesn't have insurance on himself. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he got insurance for the ring? Everybody else

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>thought and I was like, no, you don't anyway yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So no insurance on the ring. But is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>I hid from you? I don't think so. I love

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<v Speaker 1>how I have to ask my wife that question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not know. It's just so pathetic. How pathetic I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to hide something. I need something, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. For this week's episode of Help I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck at Dating, I think that's a good place for

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<v Speaker 1>us to stop. A Lexi, thank you so much for

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 1>co hosting with us this week. For the listeners out there,

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, our new format is uh this episode today.

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<v Speaker 1>We have our callers on Thursday. Alexi is gonna join

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<v Speaker 1>us for that as well, So thank you for tuning

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<v Speaker 1>in this week. Be sure tune on Thursday as well,

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