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Speaker 1: Sports Radio hundred poll question. I don't know if we'll

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Speaker 1: stay what we had with in the first hour of

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Speaker 1: the program as we move into the second hour of

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Speaker 1: this broadcast. Gloving first hour was who would you start

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Speaker 1: a franchise with Mahomes? Justin Herbert or Josh Allen. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is now running away with it. We have a completely

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Speaker 1: trivial and silly pole option. Okay, the bit of distraction

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Speaker 1: based on your wardrobe for today? Oh, I got my

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Speaker 1: Krakin sweatshirt on today? Is the Seattle Cracking the coolest

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Speaker 1: team nickname out there right now? I can't throughout some

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Speaker 1: other options. The Oklahoma City Thunder, the Raiders is always

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Speaker 1: a classic, The Brewers. Everyone loves the Brewers. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies. Really, I don't know. I have no other

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Speaker 1: just that one even close Like the Brewers. Is the

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Speaker 1: coolest team nickname I've lost? I mean, Kracking is by

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Speaker 1: far the coolest name out there. The Golden Knights. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't given it much thought. I just put on

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Speaker 1: the sweatshirt today. I was trying to fly the Colors

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Speaker 1: after the Kracking made their debut I've been a kracking

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Speaker 1: fan for years now. Yeah, play well. I do like

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin though, because the Brewers, your team's named after beer,

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Speaker 1: and then the football team, the Packers, is named after

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Speaker 1: basically meet the act meat packing. Point. I respect the

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Speaker 1: heck out of that. Well, okay, maybe if you did that,

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Speaker 1: you got two teams in a city like which the

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Speaker 1: best two team city as far as nicknames go. Yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: well what if you got team names by state? You

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Speaker 1: can take all the team names in the states, so

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Speaker 1: like the like Wisconsin gets the Packers, and you know, etc, yeah, etc, etc, etc. Yeah, yeah, point.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy names that don't fit whatsoever, Like the Vancouver Grizzlies.

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Speaker 1: That made a lot of sense. I've never been to Vancouver.

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Speaker 1: It seems like there's grizzly activity. I've been to Memphis

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Speaker 1: and I've never seen a bear on the streets Memphis.

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Speaker 1: Isley's is fun. Okay, that's like the Utah jazz are

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Speaker 1: not not a lot of jazz in Utah. You've been

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Speaker 1: not a hot bed of jazz. Yeah, I went looking,

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't hear it. Yes, mcclove's a what

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Speaker 1: is a Dodger? A Los Angeles stided, that's like a

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn train Dodger. I don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 1: I think it goes back to the train trolley cars

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Does that sound right? That does? Mosley's themes

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Speaker 1: don't even make sense. Kraken is super cool. It reminds

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Speaker 1: me of a Battle of the Greek Titans. Do you

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Speaker 1: know what Kraken is? Yeah, it's like a giant seamonster

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Speaker 1: r yeah, yes, point yeah. They were originally the kind

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Speaker 1: trolley cars that weaved its way through the borough Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: into their stadium, and it was shortened to Dodgers okay,

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Speaker 1: and Dodgers facing the Giants coming up on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: So you have Buccaneers Eagles Thursday night, and then you

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Speaker 1: have Game five Dodgers and the Giants. Yes, mclove. I

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Speaker 1: had another polloction, what would be the best World Series

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Speaker 1: match up? Former like the juiciest. Would it be Dodgers Astros?

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Speaker 1: I think I would win, unless you would say the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers Red Sox. Nope, nothing there, Nope, Dodgers Astros because

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Speaker 1: you can sell that. You can sell that, you know everybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Red Sox are the Red Sox and

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Speaker 1: the Giants are both great stories because I don't think

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Speaker 1: there were high expectations for either of those teams, and

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Speaker 1: their win totals might have been about the same preseason

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Speaker 1: over unders. But Dodgers Astros, it feels like we need

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Speaker 1: a rematch here. We're waiting for it. The Astros have

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Speaker 1: gotten to the Alcs. They've done it in impressive fashion.

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Speaker 1: Once again, that lineup is great. Altuvea is still one

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Speaker 1: of the more dangerous bats in the game. Dodgers, can

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Speaker 1: where you keep saying, yeah, the Dodgers Astros would be great.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers get past the Giants here Thursday night in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: All right, come up with a poll question, mclovin for

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Speaker 1: the second hour. Okay, one more option, things being equal,

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Speaker 1: based on what we said in the first hour, do

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Speaker 1: you want in your QB to run? The reason I

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Speaker 1: But you know, there's only you know, Lamar Jackson is

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield trying to make a tackle. Now he's got

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Speaker 1: a partially torn labram. You just don't need that. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get hit enough. The game is so violent. Don't add,

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Speaker 1: want you to be able to avoid getting hit. Josh

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Speaker 1: still takes on contact. Yeah. What do you think of

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Speaker 1: you have the Titans who still use Eric Henry. Uh,

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Speaker 1: But I mean it feels like Derreck Henry is the outlier.

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Speaker 1: I'd get the ball, you know, get it to him

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Speaker 1: I don't want him going between the tackles. Alvin Kamaro

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Speaker 1: the same thing I want. I want you out in space,

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Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots been doing this for years where

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Speaker 1: list of running Yeah, that's what I thought. Zekeel Elliot

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Speaker 1: That's why you look at what uh you know, his

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Speaker 1: still seven more weeks after that. That's what's crazy about

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Speaker 1: want a part time player, we only want a full

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Speaker 1: time player. But what about Toronto. Toronto has got some guidelines.

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Speaker 1: Can he get into Toronto to play? Yeah, yes, that's

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Speaker 1: the one place he can play. And remember too, what

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Speaker 1: the NBA is going to do for players Dan that

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Speaker 1: aren't vaccinated. You're gonna have to get multiple tests during

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Speaker 1: the day. You're gonna have to you know, social distancing,

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Speaker 1: everything like that. They're gonna make it very difficult for

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Speaker 1: the players that aren't vaccinated to kind of be part

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Speaker 1: of the group and part of their teams. What kind

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Speaker 1: of trade market, what kind of trade value does Kyrie have?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's much. No one is questioning

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Speaker 1: his talent. We all see what he can do. You

435
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Speaker 1: go back to twenty sixteen, the forty one points in

436
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Speaker 1: Game five against the Warriors, the biggest shot in the

437
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Speaker 1: history of that franchise when he beat the Warriors. With

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Speaker 1: the Cavaliers, but really with Kyrie Dan, it's a lot

439
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: of drama, it's a lot of headaches, and it's not

440
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Speaker 1: enough basketball. His first year in Brooklyn, and there are

441
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Speaker 1: a lot number of reasons. He gets hurt a lot.

442
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: Twenty games last year, fifty four, they have played in

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Speaker 1: three playoff series. He's really only been available for one.

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Speaker 1: And remember, Kevin Durant left think about it. He left

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Speaker 1: the Warriors, he left Steph Curry, He left one of

446
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Speaker 1: the best teams in the history of the sport to

447
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Speaker 1: come to Brooklyn to play with Kyrie. Kyrie's not available,

448
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Speaker 1: but Kevin Durant is out there playing, as is James Hart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just I can't imagine what Kevin Durant is thinking

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Speaker 1: right now, because you know, he's got this opportunity, thought

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Speaker 1: that they had created something and the overwhelming favorites. He

452
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Speaker 1: wants to win these championships, to be included in the

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Speaker 1: conversation with Lebron and some of the old time grades.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile you have this like Kevin Durant can't convince

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Speaker 1: Kyrie or James Harden can't convince him that. That surprises

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Speaker 1: me and I would have to think, you know, the

457
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Speaker 1: net owner, Joe Sigh, Sean Marks, the general manager, Steve Nash,

458
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Speaker 1: had a lot of saying what happened, But I find

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Speaker 1: it hard to believe that they don't run this by

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Speaker 1: guys like Kevin Durant, James Hard even Blake Griffin, who's

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Speaker 1: a respective voice in that locker room. I would have

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Speaker 1: to think that if Kevin Durant is sitting there saying

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Speaker 1: absolutely not, do not do this. This is this is

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Speaker 1: a joke. I'm going to be so upset if you

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Speaker 1: tell Kyrie Camp play I don't think they do it.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant has to be involved in this decision. And

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Speaker 1: you mention the one thing about Kevin Durant. Go back

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Speaker 1: to last year. Here's a guy that missed over five

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty days because he achilles injury. He has

470
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Speaker 1: the very good playoffs. He's basically on his own, but

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Speaker 1: he was outstanding, especially in the two games in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: What did he do a month later? He went to

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Speaker 1: Vegas to play in the Olympics. Dan this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that has already won two gold medals. He's accomplished

475
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Speaker 1: everything there is to accomplish. That's how much he loves playing.

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Speaker 1: Think about Ben Simmons, who plays to the Australian national team.

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Speaker 1: He has an awful playoff. He says, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to the Olympics, and I have the situation with Kyrie.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant loves to play basketball. Sometimes you wonder about

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Speaker 1: the commitment of certain players, and I think Kyrie and

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons fall into that category. Yeah. I brought up

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Speaker 1: this yesterday about Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has been entitled.

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Speaker 1: He has been told he's great, whereas Jannis comes over

484
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Speaker 1: and nobody knew anything about him, and he has continued

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Speaker 1: to work hard to be great. And I love that

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Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite players because I think there's

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Speaker 1: just something about him that he has that attitude of

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Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. Ben. It feels like got to the

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Speaker 1: NBA and he's like, all right, I'm here. Hello, you

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Speaker 1: know the words of Tiger Wood and hello world, and

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Speaker 1: you know the world went back and go who cares? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And then now, hey, would you trade those two for

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Speaker 1: one another? Well, if I'm the Nets, I'll take Ben Simmons.

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Speaker 1: You want to take Kyrie, go ahead, take Kyrie. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. Yeah. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a problem. And you know the one thing about Ben

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Speaker 1: Simmons too, he has he really worked enough on his game.

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Speaker 1: Now you and I were at those finals games that

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Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neill Shack wasn't always a great free throw shooter,

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Speaker 1: but he was not afraid to get foul, drough a

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Speaker 1: contact and go to the line. And that's what you

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Speaker 1: love about BEI honest. You know everyone is counting out

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Speaker 1: his you know how long it's taking him to take

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Speaker 1: a free throw, He's shooting airballs, he's still drawing contact.

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Speaker 1: And then the biggest game of his life, he goes

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Speaker 1: seventeen of nineteen from the freethrow line. And that's the issue.

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Speaker 1: So Ben Simmons, once all this is sorted out with

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Speaker 1: the Sixers, it's still gonna come down to can they

509
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Speaker 1: can team put you on the floor in the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 1: Are you working enough at your game? I don't need

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Speaker 1: you to shoot at three point I think the whole

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Speaker 1: three point shot thing is overrated. You have to be

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Speaker 1: able to make prethrows. That's something you have to work on.

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Speaker 1: Whether you need a sports psychologist or you just need

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Speaker 1: to get in the gym and work on your prethros,

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Speaker 1: that's on you. Yeah, I'd be satisfied with a fifteen

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Speaker 1: to eighteen foot jumper as well. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: be at the three points, like everybody thinks that's what

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Speaker 1: you have to be able to shoot the three. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant has made a Hall of Fame career on shooting

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Speaker 1: the eighteen footer midrange jumper. Damarta Rosen, there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with the mid range jumper, but you got to make

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Speaker 1: your free throws. We're talking to Frank A. Sola, the

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Speaker 1: NETS studio host on Yes. I was just mentioning that,

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Speaker 1: you know, we want to have a grade to give

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Speaker 1: to the Lakers after two preseason games and I went,

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00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: oh my god. The Miami Heat when Lebron joined him.

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Speaker 1: You know, they were a mess for the first half

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Speaker 1: of the year and those were Hall of you know,

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Speaker 1: in their prime. This team right now, I don't know

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Speaker 1: when you think you could get a good handle on

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Speaker 1: how the Lakers are going to be this season? How far?

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Speaker 1: And I think how far in the season. I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to take a while. I also think, you know,

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Speaker 1: the one thing about Miami, Lebron had gone there, hadn't

536
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Speaker 1: won a championship yet. He has won a title in

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Speaker 1: LA with Anthony Davis, so we know that they can

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Speaker 1: get it done. I'd be worried about you know, Trevor

539
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: Reaves is gonna be two months now. Talent Horton Tucker,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be about two months with a thumb surgery

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Speaker 1: that he has had. You know, so already injuries are

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Speaker 1: catching up to them. And it's really not Carmelo, it's

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Speaker 1: not Lebron if you know, it's not Russell Westbrook, it's

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Speaker 1: not Anthony Davis. So you know that those problems going

545
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: to come up at some point during the season. They're

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Speaker 1: still the best team in the West, but as we

547
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Speaker 1: learned last year, the team that finished with the best

548
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Speaker 1: record in the West was Utah. The team that went

549
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: to the finals was Phoenix. So those are two quality teams.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors are going to be much better late later

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Speaker 1: on this season when Clay is back to being Clay Thompson.

552
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Speaker 1: But I still think, you know, if Lebron is healthy,

553
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Speaker 1: you know, good luck trying to beat the Lakers. I

554
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be tough. I'm on the Warriors bandwagon,

555
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: but I was on there last year and then it

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Speaker 1: went so I thought step would just going to be

557
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Speaker 1: MVP and I thought they were the sneaky pick. I

558
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Speaker 1: still like the Warriors. I'm gonna go kicking and screaming

559
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Speaker 1: here because I just think when they play, and you

560
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: got some youth there as well, with Draymond and Clay

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Speaker 1: and Steph. What do you think of the Golden State

562
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Speaker 1: Warriors as a door course? You know, we went out there.

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Speaker 1: I was out there two weeks ago and spend some

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Speaker 1: time with them, and they did point out it's pretty unique.

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Speaker 1: You usually don't have a contending team that has a

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Speaker 1: solid veteran chre like that, and then most of the

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Speaker 1: other guys are young players. Now, some of those young

568
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: guys are good, a guy like Jordan Poole obviously, and

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Speaker 1: they're waiting for James Wiseman to come around. I still

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Speaker 1: wonder if there could be a trade in their future.

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Speaker 1: I would think that they would try to get involved

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Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons. I think that he could help them

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Speaker 1: a guy running the court. He can he could basically

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Speaker 1: play center for them. But I think a lot will

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Speaker 1: depend on Clay Thompson. Clay Thompson is driven to get

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Speaker 1: back to becoming the player who once was. I think

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is a great model for him because Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant had a similar injury. Those injuries are different. Now

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Speaker 1: you know ten fifteen, twenty years ago that basically was

580
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: going to be the end of your career if you

581
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: suffered and achilles injury. But you can come back from it.

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Speaker 1: I think they're highly motivated. They're not as great as

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Speaker 1: they were when they had Kevin Durant, but there's still

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Speaker 1: a really good team in the West really doesn't have

585
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Speaker 1: that dominant, dominant team, so why couldn't it be them.

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00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: I think Vegas has them at about forty eight wins.

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00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I think the Lakers are at about fifty three over under.

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Speaker 1: Great to catch up with you again, Frank. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that we'll talk to you again because this

590
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: story with us not gonna go he might go away.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the story goes away. Good scene.

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Speaker 1: You look great. Thank you, Buck. That's Frank Eisola, the

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Speaker 1: NETS studio host on Yes Serious XM NBA Radio, the

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Speaker 1: starting lineup and contributor to ESPNS. Around the horn and

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Speaker 1: pardon the interruption. It's just you know, the Lakers give

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Speaker 1: you content. Therefore, that's why you're going to ask these

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00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: questions about how good the Lakers look. They don't look good,

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00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: not right now, but I don't expect them too well

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00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: how about I wait, how about Christmas? Is that okay?

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00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: Will you give me Christmas? And then I'll give you

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Speaker 1: my opinion on how good I think they're going to be. Yeah, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've never really rooted for or against the Lakers. They've

603
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: always been entertaining. It's just not my team. But I

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00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: want Carmelo Anthony to get a ring. He just he

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Speaker 1: was such a good guy when we had him in

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Speaker 1: the studio, which is enough for me. But he's had

607
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Speaker 1: a good career and it's like it'd be kind of

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Speaker 1: cool if he got his due in a final. I

609
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Speaker 1: find him interesting on and off the court, and you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look back a couple of years ago, he's

611
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: basically done. Nobody was when the Rockets released you, and

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00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: then it's like he was done. He was a healthy

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Speaker 1: scratch from the league, and then all of a sudden,

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00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Portland picks him up and he and he you know,

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Speaker 1: it's when you accept your role. At what age do

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Speaker 1: you understand your role when your role changes? And he did.

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00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: He understood his role, and that's really important. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is going to happen to Lebron at some point

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Speaker 1: where you know he's gonna he's gonna have to probably

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Speaker 1: lessen the load that is on his shoulders because he's

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Speaker 1: He's just gonna have to. Paulie thinks that Lebron would

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Speaker 1: rather retire than to be the third option or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it couldn't be officially the third option, Like he couldn't

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Speaker 1: come off the bench. Lebron could surround himself with enough

625
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Speaker 1: talent that he could pace himself, but he would never

626
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Speaker 1: not be in his mind the guy. And once he does,

627
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: he's gone. But I don't think he's the guy with

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Speaker 1: the Lakers now. I think the guy is Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: It's just Anthony Davis doesn't know he's the guy that's

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Speaker 1: Lebron's team though. It is. But you can be sort

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Speaker 1: of the captain of a team, but you're not the

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Speaker 1: star of the team. Yeah, he's the captain. Anne owns

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Speaker 1: the ship. It feels like with the lake, he drives

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Speaker 1: the ship sails or whatever you're calling. Who is the captain? Now? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Is he the captain and the star but maybe the

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Speaker 1: second best player? Yeah, when Anthony Davis gets it right,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's very few players who were like him.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's not capable of doing that. You know the way

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis does. I mean Lebron still, you know he's

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Speaker 1: going it at a level, all time level and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna plug him in for twenty five, seven and seven.

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Speaker 1: That just that's Lebron. But I think Anthony Davis is

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Speaker 1: the reason why they win or don't win a championship.

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Speaker 1: He just has to be in shape. He's in shape.

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Speaker 1: He can be a better version of Yannis. He should

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Speaker 1: be a better version of Yannis. He's a better shooter

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Speaker 1: and he could do everything that Jannis does. But those injuries, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. And until you see

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Speaker 1: that that he stays healthy, you're always going to have

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Speaker 1: that big question mark, that big what if and hold

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Speaker 1: your breath, take a break. Your phone calls up next year.

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Speaker 1: night for the NHL. You know, it's interesting ESPN sort

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Speaker 1: Nights and Mike Krakin last night. The Kracking ended up

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Speaker 1: losing that game, Yes, Ton, they made a good effort

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Speaker 1: that they were down three nothing and they tied at three.

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Speaker 1: So even though they lost for three, it was an

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Speaker 1: exciting that first game for him the first goal scored

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Speaker 1: in cracking history. I think it's Ryan Donato. I think

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Speaker 1: just in case Thys comes up as a tribute question too.

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Speaker 1: Uh Andrew in Atlanta? Hi Andrew, what's on your mind today? Hi? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Good morning. I don't have a stat of the day.

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Speaker 1: All right, you want music, You're getting it early Moreton,

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Speaker 1: Max Free and Ian Anderson had a combined one point

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Speaker 1: seven seventy r A in the Division series against the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: Only two Braves rotations have ever been better than that round. Dan,

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Speaker 1: you might recognize these names, Lavin, Maddox and Small at

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Speaker 1: the point seven nine in nineteen ninety six, and the

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Speaker 1: trio again at one point. Oh, I got hammered, idle Way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Andrew got it hammered. Unlike the pitching staffs for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: He got hammered there. Yeah. The Braves e rara for

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Speaker 1: this series, the best any postseason series with at least

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Speaker 1: three plus games since nineteen ninety eight NLDS against the Cup.

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Speaker 1: So Braves doing it with some timely hitting with Freddy

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Speaker 1: Freeman and pitching. Yes, well, there's nothing. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if nothing, but nothing Seaton likes more than putting the

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Speaker 1: hammer down when the wave comes in. In fact, you

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Speaker 1: raise the volume, don't you. Yeah, that's the wave crashing.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get a little punch washed out. I see

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Speaker 1: you later, Andrew, Joe and Arizona. Hi Joe, it's funny

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Speaker 1: how you guys. Hi Joe. Hey, we're trying to cross

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Speaker 1: country the Arizona. My goddaughter wanted to know. Why do

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Speaker 1: you think I too? They should make Paul of Fame

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Speaker 1: when Roger Clemens, Ralph Baille, Palmaro, Barry Bonds won't make it.

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Speaker 1: Also two shots on a day, so she's gonna order

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Speaker 1: you some Jimmy Jammers of Church and if Todd Fritsky

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Speaker 1: give us with the Hall Oftes for the road, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Joe. Well, I just wondered if Altuve is

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Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of Famer. I didn't said

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Speaker 1: he that he will be. He's been great in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's different what happened with Signs stealing. You know,

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Speaker 1: if it was systemic, how involved everybody. We're not going

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Speaker 1: to find this out until after the fact. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's nice that they wait five years. When you when

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Speaker 1: you finish, that way, the stories can all come out

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Speaker 1: and then the voters can try to vote accurately on that.

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Speaker 1: But Altuve has been a wonderful postseason player, a wonderful story,

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Speaker 1: and the Astros are just the second team in history

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Speaker 1: to go to five straight ALCSS That matches the Oakland

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Speaker 1: A's of the early seventies. So it's impressive what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Is this going to be something that stays with Altuve? Probably?

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Speaker 1: So is it enough to keep him out of the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? I don't know. I don't vote on

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Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, Paul, he's a seven time All Star

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Speaker 1: and he's only thirty one years old. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: MLB never punished Altuve and far they punished others for cheating,

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Speaker 1: they didn't punish him. What if the writers made MLB

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Speaker 1: eat it and put him in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have steroid testing when Roger Clements allegedly used,

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Speaker 1: so put Clemens. But do you want to benefit al

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Speaker 1: Tuove just to stick it to baseball because Baseball didn't

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Speaker 1: take away something from the Astros? Well, no, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of I'm being a little facetious here, but I'm saying

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Speaker 1: like MLB chose not to punish the players, which people

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Speaker 1: are more mad about than the actual cheating. Well, they

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Speaker 1: had to get the players who were going to come

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Speaker 1: forward and talk about this, that that was the only

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Speaker 1: way they were they were going to, you know, sit

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Speaker 1: down and you know, once they knew they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to be punished. Yeah, I McLeman. I think the writers

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Speaker 1: would go the other way. They might punish him now

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Speaker 1: because he didn't get punished before that. This is our

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Speaker 1: chance to get al Tuve. Yeah, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: Baseball missed an opportunity where you just take away the

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Speaker 1: World Series title. You don't want to take away money,

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Speaker 1: you don't to suspend anybody, then you embarrass the franchise.

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Speaker 1: This way, if it was enough that your manager and

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Speaker 1: your GM got fired, then something happened, right, something happened

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Speaker 1: under their watch. They got fired. I mean they the

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Speaker 1: Saints coach got suspended a year for bounty gate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton got suspended a year. That's kind of ridiculous

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Speaker 1: now that it wasn't even the defensive coach, but it

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Speaker 1: was under his watch. That's why I always wonder why

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Speaker 1: Belichick didn't get suspended for a year with things under

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Speaker 1: his watch, but Sean Payton got suspended for a year.

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Speaker 1: As you look back on that, that seems a little excessive, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're making a movie about it. That Sean Payton. The

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Speaker 1: year that he took off, he coached his son's grade

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Speaker 1: school team. Kevin James, King of Queens is going to

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Speaker 1: be Sean Payton point. Would you rather be overpunished or underpunished?

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Speaker 1: Tube feels like he totally got away with cheating and

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Speaker 1: got a World Series and MVP. Sean Payton feels what

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Speaker 1: way overpunished lost? I think seven million in salary. People

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Speaker 1: feel sorry for Sean Payton. He wasn't a defensive coordinator. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's somewhere in between. Because el Tube it was just like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll tell you everything we want the what's it called community?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, give us immunity play ball? Yeah see? Well right,

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Speaker 1: But like, unfortunately for Sean Payton, there's we've spent decades

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Speaker 1: building up this idea of like trust me. Okay, these

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Speaker 1: guys are micro managers, all right. Every head coach knows

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Speaker 1: every detail of what's happening there. Okay, these guys live

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Speaker 1: each sleep and breathe the team they're sleeping there. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: But he had no idea this is happening. You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't have both of those things simultaneously. But if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, then Belichick had to know everything that

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Speaker 1: was going on. He had to know about deflate Kate

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Speaker 1: if that was a real thing. Yeah, that's why he

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Speaker 1: didn't know about it, because it wasn't real. It was

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Speaker 1: made up, all right, that's why. Okay, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: difference there between the two things. Yeah, all right, yes, mclough.

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Speaker 1: I find the guys who got caught multiple times with

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Speaker 1: pds but still made hundreds of millions of hours, like

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Speaker 1: Robinson Canoe. They're fascinating, like nobody want to take them seriously,

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Speaker 1: but they made all that money. Well, a Rod might

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Speaker 1: go into the Hall of Fame, he might trick enough

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Speaker 1: people to go into the Hall of Fame, but he shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: If you get popped twice, you should automatically be removed

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Speaker 1: from any consideration for the Hall of Fame. Really, you

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Speaker 1: should be kicked out of baseball if you get busted twice.

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Speaker 1: But you know they've allowed a Rod to have a

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Speaker 1: platform on the Mother's ship and fought I mean baseball,

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Speaker 1: I mean hypocrites. Hey, you know we're gonna punish you.

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Speaker 1: But hey, we don't want to host our broadcast. You

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Speaker 1: want to be on Sunday Night Baseball and you want

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Speaker 1: to be on the postseason. Come on down, Yes, stun

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Speaker 1: But what about those protein drinks that they didn't know

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Speaker 1: that their trainer puts something in there? There was one

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Speaker 1: of the ingredients of the band list got a lot

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Speaker 1: of that stuff. I don't know. I thought I was

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Speaker 1: just having a smoothie. Next thing, I know, I'm urinator

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Speaker 1: that I can't play for the next season. What is that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that happens to you every day. You're urinating and

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Speaker 1: you can't play. I'm urinating, that's true. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what urinating mean. What was in that smoothie? Contents? Every

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Speaker 1: hour like this? Every hour just kept it as a

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Speaker 1: drug test. I don't know why I had to go through.

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Speaker 1: It always feels like Todd has to go to the

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Speaker 1: his mind. I get uncomfortable. Tim Kirchin from the Mothership

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Speaker 1: will join us. I'm going to ask him if he

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Speaker 1: thinks who's al two Bay is a Hall of Famer,

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