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Speaker 2: Tom berdu CMLB Network. He will stop buying a little bit?
Speaker 2: Who won? Who lost? The trade deadline? Yesterday? Pat McAfee
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Speaker 2: Still waiting word from Adam Sandler. I did talk to
Speaker 2: him yesterday and we discussed Happy Gilmore two because I said,
Speaker 2: sand Man, I got to clear my schedule. I have
Speaker 2: a day job. And he said, Danny, we're going to
Speaker 2: start shooting in September. And I said okay. And I said,
Speaker 2: is my role a large role, a medium role, or
Speaker 2: a small role? And he says, you're playing Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, interesting, I said, what does that entail?
Speaker 2: He said, you're going to be behind the desk. So
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that means on site and then I'll be
Speaker 2: at the golf tournament. And I think September is when
Speaker 2: they start shooting, and it would be in New Jersey, yes,
Speaker 2: but I don't know where. I don't know how many days.
Speaker 2: He didn't say anything about Danettes being in the gallery
Speaker 2: as extras, which I'd like to propose would be kind
Speaker 2: of nice. Maybe a cutaway of you guys together.
Speaker 3: Ready, guy three to one audition over, I.
Speaker 2: Think I think your golf applause was a little too applause.
Speaker 3: It was it was a part five and he hit
Speaker 3: the green.
Speaker 2: Even then, I think it's a.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 5: It wasn't applausible for us to clap like you.
Speaker 2: Now, there's only three of the dan Nettes in the movie.
Speaker 4: I just lost out, Yes, but I.
Speaker 2: Do it in a subtle way. I suggest that if
Speaker 2: there is an opportunity for the dan Ets, it makes
Speaker 2: it easier for me if I have to take a
Speaker 2: day off and go shoot my scene for Happy Gilmore too.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the official title is. I
Speaker 2: did reach out to sand Man this morning and I
Speaker 2: said any update on the title of the movie, and
Speaker 2: no response. So right now, I guess the working title
Speaker 2: is Happy Gilmore two.
Speaker 3: Where'd they come up with that?
Speaker 2: And then it's going to be out coming up in
Speaker 2: the summer next year. It'd be a summer blockbuster, I'm
Speaker 2: going to guess. But maybe they come up with something different,
Speaker 2: although we did Grown Ups and then we did Grown
Speaker 2: Ups two, so I don't know if there's going to
Speaker 2: be much variation there.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, you're one step closer to your Oscar tribute.
Speaker 2: I think I'm there. I mean, maybe this seals it
Speaker 2: when I die. Is that what you're saying correct in memoriam?
Speaker 6: Yes, what Sarah McLaughlin says, HI will remember.
Speaker 2: I would think over twenty movies. I mean, I've made
Speaker 2: over a billion dollars at the box office. Let's be
Speaker 2: honest with this. I would think that would warrant plus,
Speaker 2: you know, a Hall of Fame broadcasting career. I think
Speaker 2: that that should put me up on the big screen.
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful. Eight seven seven three DP Show email address
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Speaker 2: Poll question for hour two is going to be one
Speaker 2: seaton o Connor.
Speaker 7: Let's see right now, we got up there. If you
Speaker 7: won the silver medal, you'd be gracious and thankful or
Speaker 7: salty and unsatisfied.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's nothing in between.
Speaker 7: No be either of those two things. That's it right now.
Speaker 7: Seventy two percent would be gracious and thankful.
Speaker 2: Well, there were two men's swimmers from the Olympic team
Speaker 2: that when I actually had a man and a woman
Speaker 2: and they were, you know, disappointed that they won silver.
Speaker 2: So I get that. The expectation. Now we look at
Speaker 2: it and go, of course we'd love a silver. Well,
Speaker 2: not if you were expected to win the gold or
Speaker 2: thought you could win the gold. So I would say, yeah, bronze.
Speaker 2: Like the person who wins a bronze or a silver
Speaker 2: with Katie Ladeki in the fifteen hundred meters and you
Speaker 2: might finish ten seconds behind her, you're probably gonna say, hey,
Speaker 2: I got a silver. I finished behind Katie Ladeci. No
Speaker 2: shame in that. What other pole questions do we have?
Speaker 7: The UH is it is a lot about expectations going
Speaker 7: into it. Yeah, because like I know, if I want
Speaker 7: a silver medal, it'd be like, holy crap, that's amazing.
Speaker 7: But if I was favored going in. Yeah, I'd be like, dang,
Speaker 7: I could have had a gold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the women's rugby team they they're thrilled that
Speaker 2: they won the bronze. The men's gymnastics team thrilled they
Speaker 2: won the bronze. If the women's gymnastics team didn't win
Speaker 2: the gold, that would be a huge disappointment. There any
Speaker 2: other pole questions for hour two? Yeah, well we got
Speaker 2: up there. Also, are you colorblind? This one's a little
Speaker 2: more self serving. Well, we were looking at the Senn
Speaker 2: River and they are starting the triathlon and they did
Speaker 2: that this morning, and I was saying, if you were
Speaker 2: Crayola Crayons or Sherman Williams and you were going to
Speaker 2: label that color, I said, tope, which is not the
Speaker 2: color of anything you want to dive into. But we
Speaker 2: were trying to come up with different colors and we
Speaker 2: realized that Seaton can't differentiate between brown and green. That
Speaker 2: you're colorblind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know, I might be more.
Speaker 7: Somebody has suggested it's more color stupid, which that might
Speaker 7: be accurate too, because I just took a before I
Speaker 7: just took a color blind test to see how colorblind
Speaker 7: they am. And it said you're not colorblind, so so
Speaker 7: your color is stupid. It might be color stupid. That's
Speaker 7: a new one. Yes, it seems more accurate though, that
Speaker 7: color is stupid.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: Jim and Idaho, Good morning, Jim. What's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Hey? Jim?
Speaker 2: Oh, get on your phone?
Speaker 9: Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2: Don't put don't put me on speaker? Well we just
Speaker 2: hung up on it. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: Jim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well his comment was about the the river
Speaker 2: the color of the river there. But yeah, it looks dope.
Speaker 2: We'll get phone calls coming up. Got some NFL news.
Speaker 2: I don't know how newsy the news is, but Paul,
Speaker 2: you want to give us a hint on NFL news.
Speaker 3: It's preseason related and it's about NFL and technology. Who
Speaker 3: wants to guess what it could be?
Speaker 2: A chip in the football? Pretty close.
Speaker 3: The NFL is going to test Hawkeye for the chain gang. Okay,
Speaker 3: they're gonna test in preseason games, random preseason games. New
Speaker 3: technology measure the first down line. The Associated Press was
Speaker 3: told by the NFL. It's called Sony Hawkeye technology. It
Speaker 3: won't be ready for full implementation, they said, until next year,
Speaker 3: but they're trying to get it done as soon as possible.
Speaker 3: This will replace the chain gang with a more immediate
Speaker 3: almost like when you're watching tennis, you know that it's
Speaker 3: in and out. When the ball is passed the first
Speaker 3: down market, it would be instantaneously known to everyone watching
Speaker 3: on TV or not. They will still have as a
Speaker 3: backup the chain gang in case the technology fails, so
Speaker 3: the chain gang people are not out of work yet.
Speaker 2: I know it's archaic to have it's antiquated to have
Speaker 2: the chain gang, but then there's part of me that
Speaker 2: I still love when they trot out on the field
Speaker 2: and they're measuring for a first down. I don't want
Speaker 2: it to be too exact where you already know it,
Speaker 2: without that drama of here they.
Speaker 4: Come, right here they come.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the messure man the.
Speaker 5: First town because you think you got it, but they
Speaker 5: didn't fully extend it just yet, and then they give
Speaker 5: it that extra pull and it goes beyond the point
Speaker 5: of the football.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: So gymnastics, Yeah, yesterday team gold for the women's team
Speaker 2: had everything you know pretty much that you wanted yesterday,
Speaker 2: great finish with rugby who knew the gymnastics swimming. So
Speaker 2: today you got shooting and canoe and fencing and diving,
Speaker 2: and it's a full slate here. The Cardinals, Dodgers, Mariners,
Speaker 2: Mets load up at the trade deadline. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: Tom Berducci about that coming up as well.
Speaker 7: Yes, the summer games are so interesting because we haven't
Speaker 7: even gotten the track and field yet. Yeah, those are
Speaker 7: some of the best. Yeah events you have and it's
Speaker 7: already been swimming in gymnastics alone is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Hawk in Arizona, Good morning Hawk. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Good morning Dan and Danettes. I'm not walking my dog
Speaker 10: and I had a real quick question Dan, if you
Speaker 10: ever heard or listen to the led Zeppelin live album
Speaker 10: How the West Is Won? Have you heard that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: I have, I haven't listened to it in a long time.
Speaker 10: Well, before you already named your boat, I was going
Speaker 10: to call in and say I think that you should
Speaker 10: name it the Ocean in reference not only to a
Speaker 10: body of water, but also to led Zeppelin of that album,
Speaker 10: because the Ocean version on that song on that album
Speaker 10: is the absolute best. So that's one of the things
Speaker 10: I was calling in for. Secondly, by the time that
Speaker 10: you leave and retired, there's no way that Danettes are
Speaker 10: going to let you out. So I have an envision
Speaker 10: you on your link and you're going to have the
Speaker 10: four Danettes show up in their own boats. So I
Speaker 10: was wondering if the Danettes have ever thought about naming
Speaker 10: their own boat, because you're obviously going to end up
Speaker 10: where you are, because I figured Fritzie might end up
Speaker 10: with let's get quizzical. I mean, Pauly's going to have
Speaker 10: a sweetness, Seam's gonna have g o a l l
Speaker 10: l l l l l, and Marvin's gonna have death
Speaker 10: come three in homage to his University of Tada Tuskies
Speaker 10: trying to get their third national title, which, oh, by
Speaker 10: the way, Arizona is going to shut you down in
Speaker 10: the twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Five all right, huck, all right, easy, ukkay.
Speaker 4: All right, get out to the sweet sixteen first and
Speaker 4: come talk to me.
Speaker 2: That is true. Yeah, the Chargers of college basketball, Arizona basketball.
Speaker 6: Weird and Miles Simon not walking through that door. Mike
Speaker 6: Baby's not walking through that door, relaxed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Arizona number one, Arizona this year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they got some NBA player and be like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to pick them to go to the final
Speaker 2: four bow out in the first round, not falling for that.
Speaker 2: The banana and the tailpipe, I'm not going to fall
Speaker 2: for that. Will in Alabama, Will, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 11: I guess it's five to nine in the one FI.
Speaker 11: But so a few weeks ago, I was listening to
Speaker 11: Mike Florio all right before y'all show came on. I
Speaker 11: want to make sure I give him credit on this
Speaker 11: in case so either he gets the credit or in
Speaker 11: case I'm wrong, he gets to blame. But he was
Speaker 11: talking about Rock Party and how his contracts. The wording
Speaker 11: of his contract says that it'll expire at the end
Speaker 11: of this regular season, which means that technically if that,
Speaker 11: if and when they make the playoffs, he could sit
Speaker 11: out or threaten to sit out of the playoffs if
Speaker 11: he doesn't get an immedia contrast extension. I don't know
Speaker 11: if he would do it, but I think it'd be
Speaker 11: very interesting and I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
Speaker 2: I haven't given it any thought and won't until I
Speaker 2: need to. I mean a sitting out hypothetical. I don't
Speaker 2: want to go down that road. I don't know brock
Speaker 2: Perty sounds like he's, you know, he wants to be
Speaker 2: the next Tom Brady. He wants to be great. He
Speaker 2: wants to you know, and guys don't hold out. I mean,
Speaker 2: ceedee lamb is. Now you have a hold in where
Speaker 2: you're going to camp. You're just not working out. Jordan
Speaker 2: Love did this as well, But I don't see that.
Speaker 2: I think bron Perty is gonna get paid, and rightfully,
Speaker 2: so he's going to get paid. Here's another thing. Albert
Speaker 2: Breer last year and we talked to him how sloppy
Speaker 2: the regular season was in the beginning in September. It
Speaker 2: was sloppy football. And he said, well, nobody takes part
Speaker 2: in preseason. So I had this great idea novel approach here,
Speaker 2: how about my team takes preseason seriously so we're at
Speaker 2: the top of our game when the games matter instead
Speaker 2: of not. Everybody can go in the way the Patriots did,
Speaker 2: and Belichick and Brady would always say, September is there
Speaker 2: to just kind of work out things, and then the
Speaker 2: season started in October. But if you're a team that
Speaker 2: you know needs to get kick started, that you weren't
Speaker 2: maybe great, or you were a game away from making
Speaker 2: the playoffs. How about your starters play a little bit
Speaker 2: so we don't use that. Well, they didn't get any
Speaker 2: time in preseason. They didn't work in preseason. Just a
Speaker 2: couple of series something because we're probably going to have
Speaker 2: sloppy play again because veterans don't play in the preseason.
Speaker 2: You know, Caleb Williams wants to play, I would still
Speaker 2: put him out there. I would let him go out
Speaker 2: for two series, just that feel. Just get that out
Speaker 2: of the way. And now you're like these guys talk
Speaker 2: about when they get a chance to go in even
Speaker 2: if it's preseason, especially quarterbacks, they're like so energized. And
Speaker 2: these are guys trying to make the team or maybe
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, they're just energized. Well, Caleb Williams, here's
Speaker 2: your number one pick. Put him out there. I play
Speaker 2: a little bit. They even hand off a couple time.
Speaker 2: Let him throw a a button hook or something, nothing
Speaker 2: crazy and tell him nothing crazy, yes, mart.
Speaker 6: So if you're the forty nine ers, would you let
Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey play at all? I remember la Danius Tomlinson
Speaker 6: during his MVP run. He didn't play a down in
Speaker 6: the preseason like him would you not let him play
Speaker 6: at all?
Speaker 4: No, I don't need him to play so just quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I want a team that is on the rise and
Speaker 2: needs those reps and needs to be ready to come
Speaker 2: opening week. I don't worry about Christian McCaffrey being ready
Speaker 2: to go. As long as he's back from his honeymoon.
Speaker 2: I think he'll be ready to go. But with these
Speaker 2: other teams, I know, Atlanta, Chicago, Carolina, I mean, there's
Speaker 2: probably fifteen teams that you can say they need to
Speaker 2: like Drake May should be out there. Let him play
Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean, I know everybody runs the
Speaker 2: risk of getting hurt. You run the risk of getting
Speaker 2: hurt every time you go out there. I just think
Speaker 2: if you're looking at the risk and the reward to
Speaker 2: have Drake May go out there, like JJ McCarthy with
Speaker 2: the Vikings, let him go out there. They play a
Speaker 2: little bit. They just feel it a little bit. You know,
Speaker 2: what are you going to do with the Steelers? Is
Speaker 2: justin Field's going to take all the reps in preseason
Speaker 2: or are they going to have a third string quarterback
Speaker 2: because Russell Wilson's not going to be out there. What
Speaker 2: did the Jets do like, do I want Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: out there after what happened last year? The answer is no.
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever played in the preseason. I
Speaker 2: just if I have a younger team and we're trying,
Speaker 2: we're on the move, and we know that we got
Speaker 2: some momentum here, we can have a special year, maybe
Speaker 2: we can get into the postseason. I get my guys
Speaker 2: out there in the preseason because I want to be
Speaker 2: ready to go opening week. I don't want to go
Speaker 2: three games in and we're one in two a row
Speaker 2: and three because it's sloppy football. Who won the trade
Speaker 2: deadline yesterday? Is it singular or plural? We'll talk to
Speaker 2: Tom Berducci, Great Baseball Reporter insider, and then Pat McAfee
Speaker 2: coming up top the next hour on the new on
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Speaker 2: So who gets an a yesterday for trade deadline moves?
Speaker 9: San Diego Padres.
Speaker 13: Let me start with them, Dan, I mean it's no
Speaker 13: surprise that we saw twenty of the thirty four players
Speaker 13: traded yesterday were relief pitchers. I mean, that's what wins
Speaker 13: these days, that's what the game is, like it or not,
Speaker 13: and a lot of us don't really love it, but
Speaker 13: especially in the postseason, they went out and got two
Speaker 13: of the best, definitely the best on the top of
Speaker 13: the market was Tanner Scott, the left handed pitcher, and
Speaker 13: then Jason Adam. And this team has been playing really
Speaker 13: well for the last let's say three weeks, so they're
Speaker 13: riding some momentum, and I just think that they're starting
Speaker 13: pitching the way they spin the ball, and now the bullpen,
Speaker 13: with the way they take care of the sixth and
Speaker 13: then on they became to me a really dangerous playoff
Speaker 13: matchup for anybody, whether that's Phillies or Dodgers. So I'll
Speaker 13: start with San Diego. I did like what the Dodgers
Speaker 13: did getting Jack Flaherty. I thought he was the best
Speaker 13: starting pitcher available.
Speaker 2: It tells you how.
Speaker 13: Unsure they are DAN about their options when they get
Speaker 13: to October, about their rotation, and they bought themselves a
Speaker 13: little certainty.
Speaker 2: Give me the top three teams in the National League.
Speaker 2: Have the Padres elevated themselves with the Dodgers In the Phillies,
Speaker 2: I think they have Dan.
Speaker 13: I think the Phillies. I still think the Phillies are
Speaker 13: the best team top to bottom. But they've gone through
Speaker 13: a rough patch here. That's probably I want to say,
Speaker 13: it's about thirty thirty five games.
Speaker 9: It's gone for a while. Right now.
Speaker 13: They're not hitting, which is kind of a good thing
Speaker 13: because I don't worry about that with that lineup. They
Speaker 13: tried to fix their bullpen. I liked what they did
Speaker 13: in getting Carlos the Staves. What was really interesting is
Speaker 13: they had two guys who they lost complete confidence in
Speaker 13: in Sir Anthony Dominge and Gregory Soto, and the Orioles,
Speaker 13: the best team in the American League East, took those
Speaker 13: two players. I don't like the idea, Dan of adding
Speaker 13: players where you're projecting that they're going to be better.
Speaker 13: I want guys who are better right now, and I
Speaker 13: make the deal so they're plug and play, hit the
Speaker 13: ground running.
Speaker 2: Your top three teams in the American League. Did they
Speaker 2: change it all after yesterday?
Speaker 9: Probably not to me.
Speaker 13: It's still New York Baltimore and I'm actually gonna have
Speaker 13: Cleveland three. I did love the Cleveland pickup of Alex Cobb,
Speaker 13: and you're saying, well, wait a second, this dude hasn't
Speaker 13: pitched an Inny Get this year. I love their bullpen.
Speaker 13: I love the way they put the ball in play.
Speaker 13: I love the way they run the bases. They're short,
Speaker 13: or they were short starting pitching. And they've got a
Speaker 13: guy who's got a fresh arm, who's a hip injury
Speaker 13: he's coming back from and as long as he turns
Speaker 13: out to be okay, and all systems seem like their
Speaker 13: go I love the idea that adding a real veteran gamer.
Speaker 13: He is a gamer competitive guy. So that was a
Speaker 13: really key pickup for me.
Speaker 2: Why didn't the Cleveland Indians change to the Cleveland Spiders
Speaker 2: as opposed to the Guardians.
Speaker 13: Because they had that rich history. Is one of the
Speaker 13: worst teams ever, right, the Cleveland Spiders.
Speaker 2: But it's a great, great nickname. It's a great mascot.
Speaker 2: I mean there's great upside with that.
Speaker 13: It is a great nickname. I mean, just think about
Speaker 13: the mascot. The uniforms could look like can you imagine
Speaker 13: a City connect uniform for the Cleveland Spighters. I mean,
Speaker 13: everybody'd be wearing it for a Halloween costume. I think
Speaker 13: the first graders would love it.
Speaker 4: It was awesome.
Speaker 13: I don't know, maybe there was just some I don't know,
Speaker 13: copyright issues.
Speaker 9: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 13: I kind of like, I kind of like the Guardian's name.
Speaker 13: When you figure out what it means on the face
Speaker 13: of it, you're like, what the heck is Guardians? Guardians
Speaker 13: of the Galaxy know that Bridge and Cleveland and I
Speaker 13: actually liked the name and the meeting behind it, But
Speaker 13: it does take some research to appreciate it.
Speaker 2: We were talking this morning prior to the show with
Speaker 2: all the moves that were made, and we can't help
Speaker 2: but think about Mike Trout that he's I guess had
Speaker 2: a setback in you know, his rehab. What is he
Speaker 2: thirty two?
Speaker 9: I mean, not much hope.
Speaker 13: And you know a lot of times the game turns
Speaker 13: over quickly these days, and yet you look at the
Speaker 13: Angels and they're a long way off DN. I mean,
Speaker 13: they didn't have much to do here at the deadline.
Speaker 13: They probably could have done more, but farm system is
Speaker 13: not great. I love Mike Trout and I love the
Speaker 13: fact that he is so loyal, and a lot of
Speaker 13: people use that against him. They say, well, why shouldn't
Speaker 13: he just you know, tell Ardie Morin or the Angels
Speaker 13: he wants out of there so he's a chance to win.
Speaker 13: This is this guy sitting around there for twenty one
Speaker 13: twenty two picks on the draft day and the Angels
Speaker 13: took him. They extended his contract twice before he was
Speaker 13: a free agent. It's really out of nothing more than loyalty,
Speaker 13: loyal to family, to the Angels. I don't hold that
Speaker 13: against them, but man, it is a shame that really
Speaker 13: the best player of this generation.
Speaker 9: We've kind of forgotten that he is, right, Yeah.
Speaker 13: Has never really had the chance that one chance early
Speaker 13: in Kansas City they got Slappy I swept. He's never
Speaker 13: won a postseason game. Mike Trout's crazy.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if the Angels just say, let's
Speaker 2: do what's best for the Angels and trade him. You're
Speaker 2: talking about loyalty from the like Kevin Garnett. He was
Speaker 2: loyal to the Timberwolves, loyal, loyal, loyal, and then what
Speaker 2: happened They trade him to Boston. Now it worked out well,
Speaker 2: but at some point the Angels have to look at
Speaker 2: this and say what is best for us and what
Speaker 2: can we get for Mike Trout.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's the problem now is he's just been hurt
Speaker 13: so much Dan that they'd have to pay down that
Speaker 13: contract to move it. And he's still extremely popular. I'll
Speaker 13: say this about Mike, and this has been true from
Speaker 13: day one. If you go to an Angels game, literally
Speaker 13: every game, he is out there before the game signing
Speaker 13: autographs for kids. I mean, people bring their families to
Speaker 13: watch Mike Trout play. Problem, he hasn't played a lot
Speaker 13: in the last three or four years.
Speaker 2: How could a team be as bad as the White Songs.
Speaker 9: It must take a lot of work, huh.
Speaker 13: I hear a lot from players Dan about how their
Speaker 13: player development system is really not good.
Speaker 9: It's thirty out of thirty.
Speaker 13: I'm talking about even at the major league level, or
Speaker 13: finishing off players and develop them. And you just hear
Speaker 13: this time and time again and again that some of
Speaker 13: the players they've had with talent just don't ascend, say
Speaker 13: a Johan Mancata. I even look at Michael Kopek. He
Speaker 13: was traded in one of the deals than the Dodgers, right,
Speaker 13: mark that name down. He's going to be a beast
Speaker 13: in the postseason. He's got a fastball to me that's
Speaker 13: got properties like Garrett Cole. He's got some issues with
Speaker 13: his slider in command that Dodgers will fix him. I
Speaker 13: believe they're probably let's say, top five in player development.
Speaker 13: And nowadays, as you know, Dan, guys get pushed in
Speaker 13: the big leagues. Player development is not just about the
Speaker 13: minor leagues anymore. It's how good your major league staff is.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Tom Berducci, Fox Sports MLB Network. Is
Speaker 2: there a pitcher comes to mind comparable to Paul's schemes
Speaker 2: in how he hit the majors his first year.
Speaker 13: I mean the obvious one would be Strasburg, right, you know,
Speaker 13: I can see some similarities there. For me, is nobody
Speaker 13: better I saw as a phenom, so to speak, because
Speaker 13: Dwight Gooden Dway was nineteen years old.
Speaker 9: I had two pitches. Two pitches.
Speaker 13: They were both like otherworldly and people sometimes he was
Speaker 13: tipping his pitches. People knew it was coming and nobody
Speaker 13: could hit him. I mean, I still think that's the
Speaker 13: best feed hump. And he was nineteen years old. Skins
Speaker 13: is a really college polished twenty one year old. He
Speaker 13: had essentially a major league pitching coach in college and
Speaker 13: Wes Johnson. If you watch him pitched in it's funny.
Speaker 13: He does throw a hundred.
Speaker 9: We all love velo.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 13: His forcing fastball might be his quote unquote worst pitch
Speaker 13: because batters ken hit velocity in today's game. But he
Speaker 13: knows how to pitch that splinker thing he's got combo
Speaker 13: of a splitter and a sinker is just filthy. But
Speaker 13: watching him pitch and all the opponents say the same thing.
Speaker 13: Dan as impressive as his stuff is, it's what he's
Speaker 13: doing with it. His baseball IQ is off the charts,
Speaker 13: so right now he must watch whenever he's got the
Speaker 13: baseball in his hands.
Speaker 2: Is there a pitch that leads to or makes it
Speaker 2: more susceptible to Tommy Johns surgery?
Speaker 13: That is a great question. For years, they used to
Speaker 13: say the split finger put a lot of stress on
Speaker 13: the elbow because if you just take a baseball wedget
Speaker 13: there between your fingers and hold it there long enough,
Speaker 13: you start to get a little tension in your elbow.
Speaker 13: Right But I think Dan, it's more about not an
Speaker 13: individual pitch. But the two biggest factors are overuse and
Speaker 13: poor mechanics, and very few guys now are overused. Right now,
Speaker 13: we have a third issue, which is pure velocity.
Speaker 9: I mean, I hate to say it.
Speaker 13: The guys who are throwing upper nineties time and time
Speaker 13: again are at risk because there literally is more strain
Speaker 13: in the elbow. Think about this. We've done so well
Speaker 13: in terms of mechanics. Very few guys go out there
Speaker 13: in the major leagues with really bad mechanics. Now, usage
Speaker 13: they're very careful, probably too careful. Right the way they
Speaker 13: cut back on eynings and pitch counts, But what you
Speaker 13: can't do is you can't do anything about that ucl
Speaker 13: that little ligament your elbow. You can strengthen all the
Speaker 13: muscles that you want, have the most efficient delivery that
Speaker 13: you want, but when you're throwing one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 13: that little ligament literally cannot stand the force from that.
Speaker 9: Over and over and over again.
Speaker 13: It's not going to change because the game pivots on
Speaker 13: velocity and if you watch kids at showcases, they're all
Speaker 13: trying to throw as hard as they can. And people
Speaker 13: just signed up for that risk that, yeah, one day
Speaker 13: I'm gonna blow out, but they'll fix it and I'll
Speaker 13: get back out there.
Speaker 2: Is it just me or it sounds like literally sounds
Speaker 2: like the ball leaving Otani's bad is different than anybody
Speaker 2: else in baseball. No, that's a great call, But why
Speaker 2: is that? I mean, the other guys can hit it
Speaker 2: as far, if not farther, but there's a sound, there's
Speaker 2: a quality to that where it's like that's different.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I used to say that about wangan Zalaz back
Speaker 13: in the day. A few guys really jump out when
Speaker 13: it comes to Albert Pooles.
Speaker 9: There is a difference.
Speaker 13: So out there's no question about even the players that
Speaker 13: they know that you can close your eyes in VP
Speaker 13: and know that, okay, tis the kids right now. First
Speaker 13: of all, if you stood next to him, you realize
Speaker 13: that dude is big. I mean, he's got like this
Speaker 13: Michael Phelps body. He's freakishly flexible, and he's got these
Speaker 13: long levers. So you think, all right, he's kind of
Speaker 13: wiry strong. No, he has built like a tank man
Speaker 13: and he's got those long levers. So he's got tremendous
Speaker 13: leverage in the baseball. And he's really learned how to
Speaker 13: backsmin the baseball high in the air, so his fly balls,
Speaker 13: when sometimes he hits the ball looks like a flyball,
Speaker 13: it's like way out. He's got that gift man where
Speaker 13: there's just another gear to the ball leaving in bat.
Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with you, Tom, Thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 9: Always a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Dad, Thank you, Tom BERDOGMLB Network Fox Sports analyst and reporter,
Speaker 2: also sports illustrated Baseball writer. MLB Network is available direct
Speaker 2: to consumer, go to mlbnetwork dot com. There's just something
Speaker 2: about it. There's some players where when the ball hits
Speaker 2: the bat, it is different. And I've said that before
Speaker 2: about Otani. I thought Jock Peterson when he played for
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, it was like, man, first time I saw
Speaker 2: him play, I was like, wow, it sounds different. And
Speaker 2: then I didn't know if certain teams have their microphones
Speaker 2: set up around home plate or something to add, you know,
Speaker 2: a little bit more ambiance around sound there, because I
Speaker 2: would do that if I was able to do that
Speaker 2: enhance the viewing or if you're listening on radio. But
Speaker 2: there's something about when Otani swings and it's like when
Speaker 2: he connects. It's just different. And back to Mike Trout.
Speaker 2: I brought this up before, and I had pushback from
Speaker 2: people with the Angels when I said, this is a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago that you know, he should aspire
Speaker 2: to be and this isn't on him. We were projecting
Speaker 2: him to be the greatest player, one of the greatest
Speaker 2: players ever, and I said he should aspire to be
Speaker 2: have a career like Miguel Cabrera, and people were like
Speaker 2: Miguel Cabrera. I said, look at the numbers, look at
Speaker 2: what he did in his career. That's now Mike's more
Speaker 2: all around player than Cabrera. But if you're looking at
Speaker 2: just numbers, hitting. Miguel Cabrera had an unbelievable career and
Speaker 2: he was really good in the postseason two. That's what
Speaker 2: you aspire to. And this isn't on Mike Trout saying Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm the next Mickey Mantle. It was everybody projecting that,
Speaker 2: and you know the expectations are so lofty. Well, Mickey
Speaker 2: Mannon was playing in the postseason every year too, playing
Speaker 2: in New York, getting attention. You know, Mike's in Anaheim.
Speaker 2: And while I can applaud you for being loyal, I
Speaker 2: think the Angels have to look at that. And you
Speaker 2: know Ernucci just brought it. It's too late to trade him,
Speaker 2: like too late in that contract that you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to pay it down. What are you going to get
Speaker 2: who wants to invest in? That's he gets hurt now
Speaker 2: feels like every year the last couple of years. But
Speaker 2: this is a guy. When his career is done, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go.
Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything about it other than he was
Speaker 2: always there in the top five or winning MVPs. But
Speaker 2: really nothing where you go I remember that time or
Speaker 2: there is nothing. There are no moments for a Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame career, and that's really hard to do. Where
Speaker 2: you go, do you remember now we're talking the best
Speaker 2: player in his sport where you don't remember anything particular.
Speaker 2: It's like Scotty Scheffler, Scotty Scheffler, and you go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that I don't know that time. But he's winning, you know,
Speaker 2: majors and winning tournaments. You're at least seeing him, but
Speaker 2: there's nothing that stands out where you go, oh my god. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3: I was thinking of a comparison for Mike trout from
Speaker 3: an older generation, and the first thing that popped in
Speaker 3: my head was Tony Gwyn. He played always with the Padres,
Speaker 3: and it felt like, you know, he could have had
Speaker 3: even more of a profile he played elsewhere. Just to compare,
Speaker 3: Tony Gwyn played in the postseason at four different times
Speaker 3: in his career. He had one hundred and seventeen at
Speaker 3: bats in the postseason. Mike Troutz had twelve. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: they were ten years ago.
Speaker 2: And look, Tony didn't want to leave. He wanted to
Speaker 2: stay in San Diego. And I remember when and I
Speaker 2: asked him about this. They the Player Association was really
Speaker 2: upset because they wanted him on the open market so
Speaker 2: other guys would make more money. And Tony said, look,
Speaker 2: I don't want to kid anybody. I'm not leaving. I
Speaker 2: want to stay here with the Padres. But agents, you know,
Speaker 2: player association, let's drive up those salaries. And Tony's like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take five million and stay here with
Speaker 2: the Padres. All right, we'll take a break. Get ready
Speaker 2: six months of football straight ahead as of tomorrow, pretty
Speaker 2: much until I don't know, mid February. Football. Also, we
Speaker 2: have our Olympic Quiz for the day and top of
Speaker 2: the hour, speaking of football, we'll talk to Pat McAfee
Speaker 2: is going to stop buying back after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2: Football starts tomorrow Hall of Fame Game, and we have
Speaker 2: football wall to wall until mid February. Also for a change,
Speaker 2: we're going to have relevant college football in December and January.
Speaker 2: And I remember when we were talking about expanding the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and I told you that I was told it was
Speaker 2: going to go to twelve teams. Then there were people
Speaker 2: who said, oh, the regular season is not going to
Speaker 2: mean anything. Yes, it will you're going to care about
Speaker 2: more regular season games for teams because they're going to
Speaker 2: be relevant because where you're going to be seated. Hey,
Speaker 2: twelve teams make the playoffs, okay, but are you hosting
Speaker 2: a playoff game? Are you on the road for two
Speaker 2: playoff games? And then the bowl games are going to matter.
Speaker 2: So now the Orange Bowl can lead to the Fiesta
Speaker 2: Bowl and that could lead to the national title. They're
Speaker 2: going to mean something. And I think they got it
Speaker 2: right with twelve teams and making the bowl games relevant.
Speaker 2: You're going to give a couple of buys to the
Speaker 2: top seeds. The question is how many teams from the SEC?
Speaker 2: How many teams from the Big ten are going to
Speaker 2: make it? Is there going to be an outcry if
Speaker 2: you have more than three teams from the SEC? Notre
Speaker 2: Dame gonna make it? Should they make it?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of great storylines and
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to get used to. Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: Ohio State is playing Oregon in Eugene coming up in October.
Speaker 2: Like I said, a seat and we should go to
Speaker 2: that game. Let's go cross country UD go to see
Speaker 2: Ohio State against Oregon.
Speaker 4: What's wrong with that plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's a quick turnaround because we'd have to leave
Speaker 2: Friday after the show. Pready got it planned. We fly
Speaker 2: out at Newark, we go into Portland, and then from
Speaker 2: Portland we could either drive to Eugene. I think that's
Speaker 2: two hours two hours, or we could take a plane
Speaker 2: over to Eugene. I don't know if the game is
Speaker 2: during the day or night though, because then we'd have
Speaker 2: to get up really early the next morning and get
Speaker 2: to Portland. Feels like a game day game. Well, game
Speaker 2: day is there, but game day can be there in
Speaker 2: the morning and then the game's not till at night,
Speaker 2: but it feels like it's a night er than a
Speaker 2: day or Yes, Pauli.
Speaker 3: That's one of those great October TBD games depending on
Speaker 3: the state of Oregon in Ohio state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we need to know plan accordingly.
Speaker 3: If they're bad. If someone's that.
Speaker 2: They're going to be good, but they would they do it.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't do a big ten noon kickoff in Eugene, Oregon,
Speaker 3: where it's a nine am they can't do that. So
Speaker 3: you're looking at that game being a three point thirty
Speaker 3: banger or an eight o'clock n TVD.
Speaker 2: Who would be carrying that? Is Fox carrying that?
Speaker 3: I think that that's that might be an NBC situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because well if that's the case and that's scholarship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll check on that one.
Speaker 2: Maybe we get the charter the Bob Costas playing Bob
Speaker 2: Costas playing.
Speaker 3: That's that off keep I'll see if that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to find out if what time that
Speaker 2: game is. But that'd be a lot of fun. I'd
Speaker 2: be sweet.
Speaker 7: It's been a while since we got out that way too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got another saucy one. I got Oregon at
Speaker 3: Michigan November second. That's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Wait what did you.
Speaker 5: Sorry?
Speaker 3: I get excited about college football?
Speaker 2: You can't say that.
Speaker 3: I didn't say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did.
Speaker 2: I heard it.
Speaker 3: Just sounded like, yeah, you got.
Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Okay?
Speaker 4: He was just missing the three party.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is this thing on? I think it is football?
Speaker 3: Get excited. Yeah, it's all be excited.
Speaker 2: Oh where were we Ohio State?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wait, Oregon has to play Ohio State and Michigan's.
Speaker 3: Right, man, they have they have a toughie. Geez, look
Speaker 3: at this. Yeah, they got a full slate here. They're
Speaker 3: out of conference. It's not so bad.
Speaker 2: But okay, okay, yeah, I like that. I like that
Speaker 2: going out for that game. Or we could go to Michigan.
Speaker 2: That'd be fun too. Downtown ann Arbor awesome. You know
Speaker 2: college certain college towns awesome. Ann Arbor. That's out of
Speaker 2: a uh, you know a movie. Yeah, well you went
Speaker 2: there for Notre Dame in Michigan. Yeah. Let me see
Speaker 2: Jay in Colorado. Hey, Jay, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8: Good morning, Dan and CAUs. First time, long time, six
Speaker 8: six five. I know I'm kind of mushy, sorry, Dan,
Speaker 8: I'm not sure what kind of fan I am. You know,
Speaker 8: I'm not an avid fan that catches absolutely everything about
Speaker 8: my teams. I'm a cheesehead transplant, so go back. But
Speaker 8: and and several of my closest friends and family are
Speaker 8: not really sports bands, so I'm kind of forced to
Speaker 8: watch the highlights, read. I read everything I can on
Speaker 8: various sites about how the game went.
Speaker 10: And that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 8: I'm not really casual, but I'm not avid. Where do
Speaker 8: I fit in?
Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 10: Jay?
Speaker 2: I'm not your therapist here. I mean, you sound like
Speaker 2: a grown man. You can kind of figure this out.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jay, tell me where it all began.
Speaker 2: You're in Colorado. You can watch every game, you know,
Speaker 2: subscriptions for all of these things. You don't have to
Speaker 2: read everything. You don't have to be ashamed to be
Speaker 2: a Packers fan either. Uh Luke in North Carolina? Hi, Luke,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 8: Dan?
Speaker 14: I had an Olympic sport idea for Todd, But first
Speaker 14: I just wanted to say I love hearing you guys
Speaker 14: talk about dust football. I'm originally from Eugene, Oregon. Would
Speaker 14: definitely advise you guys to go to that Ohio State game.
Speaker 14: Have you ever been to Austin before?
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 14: Well, that's definitely a place to go to check off
Speaker 14: your bucket list for sure. And I wanted to know
Speaker 14: what you guys thoughts about powerlifting for Todd. He's got
Speaker 14: a good base for it.
Speaker 2: Maybe just need training, hmmm, powerlifting, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I guess that's a lot of weight and I don't
Speaker 5: have the bottom hand.
Speaker 2: You have no trunk, you have of no legs issues. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that that's just don't I.
Speaker 5: Don't work out the legs very much. That's a problem.
Speaker 2: No, you don't work out the legs at all.
Speaker 5: They go for walks, but I guess that doesn't really Countterma.
Speaker 2: You always did arms. You never had a leg day.
Speaker 2: You didn't.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Time for the Quick Olympic Quiz. That's the Quick Olympic
Speaker 2: Quiz three four, Thank you Dan.
Speaker 3: This is a three line quiz off diving. Olympic diving.
Speaker 3: We talked to the US Olympic Diving. We had three
Speaker 3: very basic and probably dumb questions for them, but they
Speaker 3: were nice enough to respond. Okay, what is the minimum
Speaker 3: depth of an Olympic diving pool? In feet? What is
Speaker 3: the minimum depth of Olympic diving pool?
Speaker 9: Would?
Speaker 6: Let go first?
Speaker 5: Todd, I'm gonna say ten and a half feet.
Speaker 2: Ink seating seven point five, Mark, Marvin fifteen feet.
Speaker 7: It's got to be at least twenty five feet.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say twelve feet.
Speaker 3: Fifteen feet is correct. Marvin nailed it. That's the minimum. Okay,
Speaker 3: seven and a half feet would be terrible, I think,
Speaker 3: or be interesting. Okay, this one is uh. I thought
Speaker 3: was had multiple answers, but there's one answer. Why do
Speaker 3: divers after they dive go sit in a hot tub
Speaker 3: until their next chance to die?
Speaker 2: So they don't cramp up.
Speaker 3: Does anyone have an alternate answer.
Speaker 2: So they don't get a chill?
Speaker 5: Yeah, something about hypothermia.
Speaker 3: It is to keep their muscles warm, and one of
Speaker 3: the things is to prevent cramping.
Speaker 4: Hello, good job.
Speaker 3: That's a point for you.
Speaker 7: The warm I said, don't get a chill cramping.
Speaker 2: I think we share that we're not going to accept
Speaker 2: that we have one more.
Speaker 3: We have one more in a bonus question and a
Speaker 3: bonus question how to get out of your car now.
Speaker 2: I always like that little towel that they have, like
Speaker 2: for some reason that drives them off, you know, like
Speaker 2: a little hand towel.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee joins us in ten minutes from now,