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Speaker 1: Every day a week, clicks up the Breakfast Club, finish

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Speaker 1: for y'all.

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Speaker 2: Done morning everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's the j en Vy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God

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Speaker 3: we are the Breakfast Club. Lona Ros is here as well.

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Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 1: Man, another culture like we having a weaker culture.

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Speaker 3: Like ai Alanson, Chuck whatever you want to call him,

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Speaker 3: Mster seven five seven. He's in the building. New book

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Speaker 3: Misunderstood is out right now alan Ovis. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: are you feeling man?

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Speaker 2: Good life? Life be life in the same fight, different round,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I want to how much

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Speaker 2: time we got to like me because I don't know

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Speaker 2: where it's gonna go. But look, man, friends, all right,

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Speaker 2: so I know you know what type of I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm just mean, Jess, But you know, you know how

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Speaker 2: you get to know somebody from afar and you get

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Speaker 2: basically kind of tell what type of person they are.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Obviously I've known you since

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Speaker 2: I was in high school and big fan of you,

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Speaker 2: bro move close. I'm bad friendships, Man, It's hard, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Because when you think about your friends,

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Speaker 2: obviously you know you can't choose your family members, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, you're born into that. But your friends,

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Speaker 2: you feel like, you know, y'all got so much in

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Speaker 2: common with each other, and you have so much love

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Speaker 2: for them because you know they kind of like a

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Speaker 2: basically a reflection of you, or you got the same

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Speaker 2: type of things in common or whatever, and you just

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Speaker 2: grow to love them like family. They become you know,

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Speaker 2: the guys become brothers, and your homegirls become your sisters.

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Speaker 2: But it's rough man navigating through that, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. I know how much I love my family,

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Speaker 2: my friends. I got so much when I first got

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Speaker 2: into the league, you know what I mean. It was

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Speaker 2: the entourage, bringing homeboys from where you're from. You trust

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Speaker 2: them so much, you love them. You want them to

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Speaker 2: go on the ride with you. You want them to

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Speaker 2: take this journey, you know through it. It's new to me.

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Speaker 2: I've been poor all my whole life, and then snap

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Speaker 2: of a finger, I'm rich and famous and it's a lot,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you want to have

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Speaker 2: so many people around you that you love me, you trust,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And the money man just

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's just you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, and it's it's it's so different from me,

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Speaker 2: and it's so hard for me because with my athletic

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Speaker 2: ability that I was blessed with. I've been like this

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Speaker 2: since I was eight years old. Like I always felt

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Speaker 2: that I was rich, but I was poor. I always

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Speaker 2: been famous, you know what I mean. When I was

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Speaker 2: eight years old, I go into barbershop and guys said

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Speaker 2: teen eighteen, twenty twenty five years old. Guys like, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: there you go. You know that's the one right there,

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Speaker 2: that's him. So it's always been that for me. I

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Speaker 2: always had that attention, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 2: always been like that. And you know, once I got

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Speaker 2: some money, it was no different from me. Obviously I

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Speaker 2: could do things with my family and my friends that

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do before. You know, that's that goes without saying.

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Speaker 2: And I've never had a person you know my nickname obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know my name, Chuck. You know, I've never heard

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Speaker 2: a person say, you know, once Chuck got some money,

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Speaker 2: he changed, Once Chuck got to the NBA, he changed,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I've never heard that, you

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Speaker 2: know before, because you know, the people that know me

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Speaker 2: I'm me, you know what I mean. That's one of

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Speaker 2: my biggest fears, or had been one of my biggest fears.

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Speaker 2: Of looking in the mirror and not being able to

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Speaker 2: recognize you know, well, my mom and the people that

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, meant something to me. But man,

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Speaker 2: just the painful lessons of friends not being who you

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Speaker 2: think they they are. When you add the rout of

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Speaker 2: all evil, any.

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Speaker 2: It happens, and the reason definitely, it happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: But I feel a pendulum swinging in another direction as

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Speaker 2: far as how I feel about it, like how it

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Speaker 2: you tell someone you want to find out if somebody

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Speaker 2: and their reaction with what was said all you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Chuck a man, I got a business,

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Speaker 2: you know, opportunity. I want to start this. I want

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Speaker 2: to start that. Man can give me a hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: and you don't even have to tell them no. You

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Speaker 2: can say not right now, you know later on. But

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Speaker 2: these are the same people pay their rent that over

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Speaker 2: the years child support. You know what I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: pay your mom rent. You know this that every time

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Speaker 2: you go to a jewelry store, you're taking them, you know,

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Speaker 2: because the most awkward feeling is you know, for me,

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Speaker 2: this is just me growing up, being young and not

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Speaker 2: knowing early in the preliminary stages of getting some money.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: be shining and looking good and my homeboys not. So

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Speaker 2: when I go see Manny, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: they going You know what I mean, when I get cars,

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Speaker 2: they get cars, you know what I mean. Like, and

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Speaker 2: you know it's just like when you tell them no,

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Speaker 2: the way they you know they act. You know, somebody

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Speaker 2: saying this, yo, man, what's up with your man?

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Speaker 1: They are?

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Speaker 2: You know, what's up with the man? Fuck that nigga?

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Speaker 2: Dangn You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like after reading your book, nobody's your question. You're loyal.

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Speaker 1: You'll ever say you took care of me.

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Speaker 3: I'm what you've seen, But do you regret that? Because

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Speaker 3: I mean, Virginia, that's you everywhere.

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Speaker 2: That's where I say the pendulum is swinging. That's that's

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Speaker 2: why I say or feel that my maturation is on

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Speaker 2: a higher level now because back then, when something traumatic

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Speaker 2: will happen to me like that, I see how they

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Speaker 2: act for me telling them no, like you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. Like it's like I feel myself not giving

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Speaker 2: the damn anymore, Like you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the same people that come to me,

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Speaker 2: you know, be at my practice eight o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 2: you know, Christmas Eve, saying what their kids don't have?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. One thing about the people

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Speaker 2: that you love, people that love you or supposed to

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Speaker 2: know my heart. You throw your kids in there, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Everybody know Christmas on the twenty

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Speaker 2: fifth of December every year, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But man, my kids ain't gonna have nothing, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, what I supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: Something you said in the book that hit me too

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Speaker 4: is you was like, man, you was that kid, so

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Speaker 4: you understood what it felt it not have when they

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Speaker 1: You was like, I gotta do.

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Speaker 2: And I had the mother and the father that hustled

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Speaker 2: to get us what they could, but they couldn't get

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Speaker 2: us things. You know, I wanted op ed for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I wanted certain things and then you wake up that

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Speaker 2: morning and it's not there. You know, you may have

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Speaker 2: a you know, past sneakers or T shirt and that

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Speaker 2: So you know, I ain't never want my homeboys kids

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Speaker 2: like i've years ago, it's you know, I ran into

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Speaker 2: the craziest shit. But years ago, you know, money got funny,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And you know I had

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Speaker 2: realized at a point like I ain't have the word

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Speaker 2: knowing my vocabulary when it comes to people, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I was so used to I

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Speaker 2: never held anybody accountable for why I had to be

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Speaker 2: I was the one going to work every single day.

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Speaker 2: I was breaking bones, stitches on the stitches in my face,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it just it just

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Speaker 2: taught me a lot, man. And now you know, I know,

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Speaker 2: life be lifeing, But to be still dealing with those

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Speaker 2: you know what you've done for them, you know, you

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Speaker 2: wake up. And some people wake up in their life

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Speaker 2: just not where they wanted to be. And the first

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Speaker 2: thing you could think of is blame it on Chuck,

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Speaker 2: you know, figure out some way that I can blame

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Speaker 2: it on somebody else to while my life is not

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 3: You ever have impasta syndrome? And the reason I asked

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Speaker 3: if you talk about all that right? And I remember

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Speaker 3: the Bowling Alley incident in Virginia, and it feels like,

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Speaker 3: regardless of what happened in VA, you always came back

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Speaker 3: and you always wanted to show the love. No matter

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Speaker 3: what happened. You talk about the people you put on

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Speaker 3: the city was against you, and Virginia could have been

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Speaker 3: racist back then. It was really racist back then. We

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Speaker 3: all seen it, but you still came back to that

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Speaker 2: I am I am VA. It's me, It's Amy, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. And the crazy, crazy thing about

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Speaker 2: what I was just talking to my man about this

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Speaker 2: all the stuff, you know, all my media runs and

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Speaker 2: all that. Yesterday I just signed a thousand books and

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Speaker 2: With the people that bought the books beautiful, but I was,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was tired, and right after that as

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Speaker 2: my daughter's birthday, and I had to you know, she

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Speaker 2: take care of her after all of that, and I

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Speaker 2: got done. Maybe I started at six, got done like

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Speaker 2: maybe ten o'clock. She wanted to go bowling and wanted

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Speaker 2: to go to a escapeboarm okay, but I had no

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Speaker 2: idea that the escape room was like you're in a

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Speaker 2: jail scene, you know what I mean. I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 2: this this is your life for real, Like out of

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Speaker 2: all the places that she want to go on her birthday,

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Speaker 2: bowling in a jail. You know.

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Speaker 5: But she's smart because you got to figure out how

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Speaker 5: she probably figured out how.

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Speaker 2: To get But you know, I'm thinking, like the last

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Speaker 2: place I want to be from my memory to jail

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Speaker 2: bowling out, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I want to go back to your

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Speaker 4: friend's thing real quick, right because even in the book,

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Speaker 4: there's nobody that felt like that was around you that

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Speaker 4: didn't help you in some way, shape or form. So

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Speaker 4: you was repaying them, like you talk about how when

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Speaker 4: you was in jail, they was taking care of your mom.

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Speaker 4: And they were the ones that would tell you, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, you're not gonna be hustling, You're gonna be

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Speaker 4: playing ball. So it wasn't like you just had a

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Speaker 4: bunch of leeches around you. Was there was people that

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Speaker 4: looked out for you, so you look back out for them.

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Speaker 2: You know what I would have I would have done

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Speaker 2: it anyway. Like I ain't never expected like if I

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Speaker 2: if I you know, if I look out for one

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Speaker 2: of my my homeboys, my home I don't expect you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you when you like it's just like

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Speaker 2: I ain't never had no back up playing Like growing up,

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Speaker 2: And you know you think you know. Coach Thompson used

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Speaker 2: No? Why not?

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Speaker 3: Because they would listen to you, right, especially if you

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Speaker 2: I've been, I've been one of the players, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you have a unique talent, you

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Speaker 2: for what that's why? Is it god given talent? Any

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Speaker 4: Man, do you think you were misunderstood that the title

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Speaker 2: You're a smart dude sometimes a lot. This is one

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Speaker 2: My corn rolls. I got corn rolls because I was

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Speaker 2: Is how you wasn't no Coach Thompson then, you know

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Speaker 3: How was that pressure though? Cause the nicest player, right,

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Speaker 3: But you changed culture. But when you changed the culture,

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Speaker 2: But you never folded.

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Speaker 3: You never back down, and you kept it that way,

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Speaker 2: Why was that they profited off of too? You know

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Speaker 2: They wanted me on a magazine because of my talent

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Speaker 2: and who I was, but they airbrushed my tattoos off

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00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: or you want me but you you know, you want

433
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: some of me. I took the ass with it for it.

434
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 2: But the dress code thing, like I actually was just

435
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I was twenty one. Where

436
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: am I going after the game? Going to the club,

437
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Before that, you they were

438
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 2: used to dudes wearing soups, and you know what I mean,

439
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, Like, I've never worn a soup

440
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: growing up. I'm going to church or to a funeral.

441
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: The only time I put on them in the courtroom.

442
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: Definitely in the courtroom. So I never wore a soup

443
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: to the to the gym, to play, to the to

444
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: the park, sweatsuit, you know what I mean, or whatever.

445
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I ain't think I

446
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: ain't think nothing of it, you know what I mean.

447
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: And then you know I got some money, so the

448
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: jewelry and I always had a fet as me and

449
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: my mom since I was a little kid, you know

450
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's always been like that. So you know,

451
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: I remember being and and uh in college and my

452
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: teammates like, yo, when you get to the lead man,

453
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: you're gonna get the jewelry, like park, you know what

454
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you gonna have the jewelry like puff you

455
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Yeah, you know, and the first thing,

456
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: like when the first thing I did was come up

457
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: here and went to Tito. You know what I'm saying,

458
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: Like I didn't think nothing. I was living, you know

459
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: what I mean, And David Stern and rested in me.

460
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: They was like nah, because it was all right when

461
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: I was doing it. But then everybody else said, okay,

462
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: like he can do that, we can do this. So

463
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: then everybody, you know, you see Kobe coming in with

464
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: the diamond chains on and the baggy clothes, and you know,

465
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 2: everybody started doing it. Then the league was like, hold on,

466
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: we gotta do something about that. So it wasn't it

467
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: wasn't anything malicious like and that and that. That whole

468
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: situation showed me a lot and it proved a lot

469
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: to me at a young age about stereotyping people. Because

470
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 2: you know, when you seen John Gotti, John Gotty kept

471
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: on the two thousand dollars suit, but what was he

472
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: He get busy, you know what I mean. So it

473
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: ain't about what you got on. You watched reservoir dogs,

474
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: what they have on when they when they robbed that.

475
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, so it ain't about you

476
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: know what you got on on the outside, who you are.

477
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: And they said that bother you the most where they

478
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: labeled you a thug.

479
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, I'll be cool with

480
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: I'll be cool with, you know, a street dude. Cool

481
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: with that, because that's what I am. I mean, that's

482
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: where I come from. That's all I've ever been around

483
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: my life. That's where I grew up around, you know

484
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: what I mean. But a thug like h nah, that's

485
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: a that's a stretch.

486
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: I was wondering would you change things?

487
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: And the reason I asked that because even in the book,

488
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 4: you understood you had to wear a suit the court,

489
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 4: but you didn't want to do it for press conferences.

490
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: In the NBA, I was bad advice like I was.

491
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was told to take a uh,

492
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: go to trial and go off whatever the judge say,

493
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: opposed to having a jury. That was bad, you know

494
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 2: what I mean. Some of that I was getting advice

495
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: from people that never had been through it, you know

496
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: what I mean. I was told that if I was

497
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: suit then they'd be lenient. I was. I was extremely wrong.

498
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: So you wish you to just water I'm not.

499
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: I remember. I remember that same suit. I was a

500
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: in a sale. It was one hundred degrees with no

501
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: fans in there, and the older sale. I was in

502
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: a four man cell with fifteen people, you know what

503
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean, and that suit. When they came got me,

504
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: I was in the corner with my boxes on, you

505
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean, soaking wet, and the suit was

506
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: balled up in the corner. When they came and got

507
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: me out of there, I had on my boxes, you

508
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I don't know what. Do

509
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: you regret anything? Nah? Because I wouldn't be you I

510
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: am now, you know what I mean? Anybody, if I

511
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: died and came back, I would, Man, I'd rather be

512
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: me all over again. But if I change everything. If

513
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: I knew it was coming, anybody going, if you're going

514
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: down of one way street, you're gonna get on the

515
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: right side of the road. You see the tract the

516
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: trailer coming, and you know it's coming. You know what

517
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: I mean. That prepared me to be the man that

518
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: I am today. I had to take this ass whooping

519
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: with the dress code. So now look at everybody, everybody

520
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: give me my flyers for that. You know what I mean,

521
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: for you got them all these personalities. Why would everybody

522
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: dress the same? You got different basketball games? Why everybody

523
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: look the same? You got different games? And people feel

524
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: good about this. So when you I love it thinking

525
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: about you know when I when when it's time to

526
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: go somewhere, trying to go to the club or whatever.

527
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: I ain't battling with the dudes at the club, you

528
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I can't wait to meet everybody

529
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: downstairs and see what everybody got on. You know what

530
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Like I want to be you know, I

531
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: want to be smoother than my man, you know what

532
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Like that make you feel good, you look good,

533
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: you play good even on the court. I wanted to

534
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: look like a superhero like Michael Jordan used to look.

535
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

536
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't change I wouldn't change anything, man

537
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: in my life, all of these experience, even with the book. Man,

538
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: it's like I love like my girl always talk to

539
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: me about why do you let like what I started

540
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: talking about in the beginning, why do you let that

541
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: type of shit bother you? And I like practice press no,

542
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: just just what my friends, how people you know what

543
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, It's like why and I don't know, you

544
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like I love the people that

545
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: I love and it hurt when they show you who

546
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: they really are because I'm thinking you somebody else, you

547
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And she like, you know, why

548
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: do you stress out over stuff like that? And one

549
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: of you different. You have a talent and you you're

550
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: blessed to be able to brush that stuff off. It's

551
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: hard for me now. My talent obviously is you know,

552
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 2: legendary with who. But I think another blessed blessing that

553
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: I have is to be an open book, to be

554
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: someone I'm embarrassed by practice rant I'm embarrassed about, uh,

555
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: not really embarrassed. But it wasn't smart for me to,

556
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: you know, because I remember, you know, people telling me Ai,

557
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: you cannot take care of everybody, and I used to

558
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: let it go on one air and write out the

559
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: other like, yo, you know what I mean. I'm gonna

560
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: be the exception to the rule. I'm gonna take care

561
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: of the people that I love, like that's just me,

562
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

563
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 5: And I think that's why I hurt you so bad,

564
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 5: because your heart isn't it. You love these people. You know, yeah,

565
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 5: yeah you're superman, but you still have a heart, you

566
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 5: know what I mean, And you.

567
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: Like but this is but this is my This is

568
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: my gift, Like this is my gift to this book, this,

569
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: this documentary. My experience is the turbulent, the ups and downs.

570
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: Like if one kid or one adult whatever read this

571
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: book and they can take something from it. I have

572
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: people come to me all the time be like, yo, man,

573
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 2: you inspired my life. Man, I would have died if

574
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: it was for you. I would have went to jail

575
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. You know what I mean,

576
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: Like you changed my life. You know, you inspire me.

577
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: You know your story and this that and the third

578
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: like and that that motivate me. You know what I mean,

579
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: Like to give more, Like to even when you embarrass

580
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: you uncomfortable, you know, talk about it. Somebody might not

581
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: have to go through it. Somebody might. You might save

582
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: somebody's life, you know what I mean, Like talk about it.

583
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you might not be You know, man,

584
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: you was on top of the world. You had all

585
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: the money, you know what I mean, all you had

586
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: to do. It's easy for a motherfucker to tell Chuck

587
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: what to do with his easy for somebody to say

588
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: what I would have did? Man, if I was him,

589
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: I would have did. You ain't me, motherfucker. You know

590
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: what I mean. You don't know how. I'm sorry you

591
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: not me. You know what I mean. I make mistakes.

592
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm human just like you.

593
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: That's why we love you, and I love how I

594
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: love how.

595
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: The whole book Misunderstood is literally an explanation as to

596
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: why the whole infamous practice press conference even happened, because

597
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: you was dealing with so much at the time, so

598
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: it wasn't even about you know, those people in the room.

599
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: It's everything else. I was going on outside.

600
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: Man, best friend just just got killed, you know what

601
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, I'm coming in there, But Charla, Man,

602
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm coming in there like like I'm I'm on cloud nine.

603
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, I get you know, my kids dealing

604
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: with this, like they going to school every day and

605
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: their class may tell your daddy, don't leave, Tell you dad,

606
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: they don't leave. You know, my wife going you know,

607
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: she out in the city. People tell your husband, please

608
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: don't leave. We love them. So they going through it.

609
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, my kids don't really understand daddy,

610
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: don't don't get traded, don't leave like I don't have

611
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 2: no control over it. So when they called me in there,

612
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: it was like, yo, you ain't going nowhere. So I'm like, shit,

613
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: can we call a press conference? You know what I mean? Yeah,

614
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: I got all everybody in there. I get to tell

615
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: the world I ain't going nowhere. This dude just keep

616
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: on asking me about practice, practice, practice, you know what

617
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, practice, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

618
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is not what we're here for. This

619
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: is we I mean, let's rejoice, let's be happy, you

620
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But it's you you, if you

621
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: know what I know. You got beat writers that write

622
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: every day. And then you know, I was telling steven

623
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: A on this show yesterday, like they want exclusive, you

624
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: turn them down for exclusive the first chance they get,

625
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: kick your back off, you know what I mean. And

626
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: it was him. I'm sitting there looking at him, you

627
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, and if I was, if

628
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: I was prepared, which I wasn't. If I was, I'm like, yo, man,

629
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: I was the MVP last season, the best player in

630
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: the whole world. You know what I mean, coming from

631
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: where I come from, and if I didn't practice, how

632
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: would I be able to accomplish something like that. I

633
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: must be really good, you know what I mean. But

634
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't prepared for it like that because I was

635
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: so emotional and angry that him. You know, this is

636
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: about being happy, man.

637
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: That's what the misunderstood is about.

638
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: Right.

639
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: One thing I would I would say about AI is

640
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: if you ever see him out, he's gonna talk to you.

641
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: He's gonna hug you like he's It's funny when people

642
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: say you're from the street or when labeled you a thug.

643
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, when you.

644
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: See him out, he's the total opposite.

645
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: He gonna hug you, he gonna ask you how your

646
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: family is right when you used to have a looking

647
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: at it. He gonna kiss you on your forehead, like brother,

648
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: I love you like no, for real, I love you

649
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: and hen and he means it, and he means well

650
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: for all his people. And that's the side I don't

651
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: think people see I love. I was saying something the

652
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: other day. I was like, I was walking down the

653
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: street with Virginia and Charloman was like he was walking

654
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: I was like, I was walking down the street and hey.

655
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: I pulled up and what's up?

656
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: Hop out the car house your family?

657
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: Give me a hug, aful. Yeah, what you're doing tonight?

658
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: You you got you got some of the city eye.

659
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come then text me later on Yo, I'm sleeping.

660
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna bring it. I'm like, yeah, but that's

661
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: him with everybody, And I'm like, that's the side that.

662
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: People heard, the people's the people's I look at it

663
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: like I look at it like I watch I watch

664
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: people and how they get down, and I'm like, damn,

665
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: I would never you know what I mean? But Teach's on,

666
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, me being me is, you know, the best

667
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: thing in the world of me. Yes, I wanted to

668
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: be like Mike growing up. I wanted to be like Mike. Yes,

669
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be him. You know what I mean. Like,

670
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: I love being me. Everybody else is taking up anyway,

671
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I love, I love

672
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: who I am. I never disrespect my God by wanting

673
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: to be something else. I never disrespect him, you know

674
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: what I mean? By wanting to be somebody else? I love.

675
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: I didn't win a championship, but I'm the people's champ

676
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: I love you know, people coming to me. Ai what

677
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: you're doing here? I'm in Walmartol, I'm a target on

678
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: the grocery store. You know what I mean. What you're

679
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: doing here? Man? Shocky like you security man? That part

680
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: of my life is I just man, I'm not I'm

681
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: not a thug. I'm not a gangster. You know, hurt

682
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: me for what? You know what I mean? What am

683
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: I scared to just? You know what I mean? Like

684
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: what am I?

685
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: I always say, you're the only player who didn't win

686
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: a ring, who feel like a champion because.

687
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: To us, like cham, I got an ring.

688
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy that you say that because I'm blessed.

689
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: Look at all of the look at all of the

690
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: other things that He's done for me. When I wake

691
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: up every morning when I say my prayer, because I

692
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: don't do it at night, I do it in the morning.

693
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: I fall asleep and forget watching Saving and Son. You

694
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: know what I mean, all night and I'm gone. But

695
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: when I when I pray, I pray for my family.

696
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: I pray for my friends. You know what I mean,

697
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: Keep us healthy, keep us safe, if you know, be sick, curious.

698
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I never ask him for

699
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: no money. I never ask him for no opportunity. I

700
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: never just I'll handle the rest. Just keep us safe,

701
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: keep us healthy, and I'll go out. I'll come out.

702
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: I'll go out there and open the door and say,

703
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: what's up world, what you got to got to off?

704
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: What's what's going on today? And then navigate through it

705
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: and tackle it? You know what I mean. Like I'm blessed,

706
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So a championship, you know

707
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm top seventy five all time. Not

708
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: many players played this game, man, millions and millions and millions.

709
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: I would said that I was told that I wasn't

710
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: even I was too small. I couldn't make it. You

711
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: can't make it in this type of game. And you know,

712
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: and I'm a Hall of Famer, you know what I mean.

713
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: All start scoring champion, you know what I mean. Like,

714
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm just not a champion, you know what I mean,

715
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm not. We came up short to a juggernaut Kobe

716
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: Bryant and Shaquille O'Neill in their prime. You understand, Like

717
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm cool with that, you know what I mean.

718
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: Now I get an opportunity I'm still here. I get

719
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: the root for That's why I want certain people that

720
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: haven't won a championship to win one. I want to

721
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: I want them to feel, you know how, I never

722
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: got the opportunity to feel. So when people talk about

723
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: who you want to win this year, I want to

724
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: see the guys win that haven't done it before. Gotcha,

725
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

726
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: You would do things that nobody evident.

727
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 5: If you did, you would go so viral these days.

728
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: You had your mother bring your head at the game.

729
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: I was not my mom, the it was her sister.

730
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: Think it was Mamy.

731
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So that was just what it wasn't

732
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 5: no time before I was rushing.

733
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: List. First of all, you already know Jess, and I

734
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: know you might have. You might not have joked about it,

735
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 2: but you you probably joked about it to your home

736
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: girls or your homeboys or whatever. Because I ain't never

737
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: had my head always been long up here. I ain't

738
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: never had no hang time. I ain't never I mean never,

739
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And you know if you

740
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: don't put rubber bands in my joint, then they would

741
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: come out. So we were actually rushing. I used to.

742
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: I used to get to the game so late, you know,

743
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: because I used to leave so late. With the traffic

744
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: going to the game, I used to always get called

745
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: into it. And then I used to always had to

746
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: ride on thee so playing it was like first quarter

747
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: and I felt, you know, it was coming out. My

748
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: aunt was stands all like yo, she came and.

749
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: Just fix it up.

750
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: I mean it was simple as that that that photo

751
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 5: is like so loved and cherished now, But when it

752
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 5: happened at the time, did you feel like people like

753
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: loved and.

754
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 6: Cherish the moment? And how did you handle how people

755
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 6: would come for your family because you are such a

756
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 6: family person.

757
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good question. I don't want to say

758
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't care, but it was like, what

759
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 2: you're gonna do, Like there's nothing you can you can't

760
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna change I couldn't change what people think about.

761
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: But this book not gonna change what people think. This documentary.

762
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Motherfucker don't like you. They don't like you. They hate you.

763
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: They hate you. They don't find some reason, you know,

764
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: they don't find some reason to to not like you.

765
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: That's what you deal with. And it's like I had

766
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: to learn that early, like you know what I mean,

767
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: like like for real, like everybody not gonna love you,

768
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You just concentrate on the

769
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: ones that do. You just appreciate the ones that that

770
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: that like you. You know what I mean. I mean,

771
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: they gonna say crazy shit, you know what I mean.

772
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: I heard somebody say Michael Jackson can't sing, you know,

773
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: like I mean, I've heard it. So when when you

774
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: ranking people and you know what i mean, ranking where

775
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: AI stand in this and and and you know what

776
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: I mean, like you're paying attention with the comments and

777
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: what people say, and man, listen, you're gonna be hurt

778
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: for a while. Like the comments even on Instagram, Like

779
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: I posted a picture of my daughter up there, and dude,

780
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the comments for whatever reason, you know

781
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: what i mean, Like I need my ego stroke anymore,

782
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Look at man, fuck that

783
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: a uggly bitch. You know what I'm like. Damn, Like

784
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I don't do the comments no more,

785
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: fran Son. You know what I'm saying. It's like it's

786
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: like people going, you know, that's what that's what they do.

787
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: Because a lot of a lot of times people we

788
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: talked about that earlier, they wake up and they mad

789
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: at their own life. And you know, that's just that's

790
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: the world we the world we we live in. That's

791
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: the reason I can't be a commentary. Yeah. Yeah, Like

792
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: I'm not getting up there talking bad about nobody. Man.

793
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: I just I just that's just not something that because

794
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: if just think about it, if you're an NBA basketball player,

795
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: you never get in the game, everybody think you are

796
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: bum Put them in again, how you get there first

797
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: of all? Right, and then put them on the court,

798
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, with anybody else. Put them

799
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: in the y m c A. Put them on the court,

800
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: on the college court, you know what I mean, high

801
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: school whatever it looked like Michael Jordan out there, you

802
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I just respect everybody that

803
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: made it because I know what I actually went through,

804
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I went through a lot

805
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: to get there, Like I ended up being the first

806
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: pick in the draft, and a couple of years ago

807
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: I was getting released from from jail, you know what

808
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I don't know, I just I just

809
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: I just respect people that that that want to do

810
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: something and don't let nobody stop them trying to do it.

811
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: Also that I've seen an interview you gave up drinking

812
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: six months ago that point where you said it.

813
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: Was it was I'll be lying if I would say

814
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: it just just stopped the brother. You know what I mean.

815
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: It was it was situations. You know what I mean.

816
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: I you know, where is my ship at? You know

817
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I know I put it here.

818
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's the same thing having

819
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: certain guys around you. Everybody when when when they your people,

820
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: your people know when you're drunk, y know, just chill man,

821
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: just yeah, somew more glasses. Damn man, Hey, yo, man,

822
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: fucked up right now? Man, God, damn, I need you

823
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: to you know what I'm saying. Man, My this is

824
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: going on. That going on. Man. I need you waited

825
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: till I get this in because let me just talk

826
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: about when I get nice man, will give you the

827
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: shirt up. I went to sleep glass nine twenty five

828
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: thousand on me, you know, but I got twelve hundred.

829
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: What my sniggers, what my man? You gave such and

830
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: such your your your your little sniggers. You gave your sister,

831
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: your your uh your uh, your your first cope. You

832
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like and I mean, that's

833
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: just that's just small ship compared to the real you

834
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Not feeling well? You know what

835
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean. I mean, I did all this and I

836
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: was having fun last night to wake up feeling like this,

837
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Then my responsibilities you you

838
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You're missing flights and you know

839
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, I mean, just a it's a pluthor

840
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: r of things. Man, you just drinking, you know what

841
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like I sat to evaluate him, like what

842
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: good does it do for me? You understand? Like you

843
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you can you can have fun with your

844
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: own boys, your homegirls, you know what I mean, without that,

845
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: And I found out that that's something I you know,

846
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: got to get used to as well, you know what

847
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: I mean, because I don't like being around a bunch

848
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: of drunk people. And I ain't like we can't have

849
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: a conversation. Like I'm talking, I'm trying to get you

850
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: to understand something, but I'm talking to somebody drunk. You

851
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You ain't trying to hear nothing

852
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. We ain't we All conversations not gonna

853
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: matter until some other time, you know what I mean.

854
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: And so Bron call you right now and he said, hey, man,

855
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 4: hennersy got this bag.

856
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: God damn by no bag. I've been there and I

857
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: don't had it long. I don't experienced having millions and

858
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: losing like and I'm not talking about I've always been

859
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: a millionaire, you know what I mean. I'ma make millions regardless.

860
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: But for me, once I done hit the pinnacle. You know,

861
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: ten million a year is not enough for me, you

862
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it is not enough. Like,

863
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: but at the same time, if I want the lottery,

864
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: if I hit one of them joints that went up

865
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: to a billion or something like that, the last thing

866
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: I would want is for anybody to know, you know

867
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, man, that's that's the last thing. Like, man,

868
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

869
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say And I talked to God about it.

870
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: I asked them to help me be strong. I ain't

871
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: go to no AA or nothing like that. Like I

872
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm not I'm not doing it.

873
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: And that's what it wasn't. The crazy thing about it

874
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: is I've been with her for fifteen, for thirty five

875
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: years and since I was fifteen. And it's crazy part

876
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: about it is she said when I told her I

877
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: was stopping that after that she prayed on it. And

878
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: she said that was the only time that she ever

879
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: prayed on it. Like I said it plenty times in

880
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: the past, and she said that was the only time

881
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: that she prayed on it. And I was authentic with it.

882
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: Was there ever a time in your life where you

883
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: truly felt like a kid, because because when I read

884
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: your book, it feels like you never got the opportunity there.

885
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well yeah, I remember, Like I like you,

886
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: people talk all the time about, Man, I was it.

887
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: How tough was it? You know, growing up poor? You

888
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it was the best, right,

889
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean,

890
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: because everybody around me was it won't like everybody you know,

891
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: it was only until I got to high school and

892
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm wearing like I had two what three pair of

893
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: pants and my and one of was my sister's, you

894
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You know it was, it was

895
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: bad And I'm looking at it's called farmititing you know

896
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: where I'm from, You know what I mean? You see

897
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: the kids on farmiting, they come in their dressed like

898
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: they got the polo and the guests on. And you

899
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I'm like, damn Ja Bows and

900
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: the dudes. It was that was competition for real, you

901
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 2: know what I mean. They come up with the act

902
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: legends and you know what I mean, Like it was,

903
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: it was. It was tough. But you know, before then,

904
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: it was like, man, you know what I'm saying, Like

905
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: all I wanted, all I wanted growing up was a

906
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: pair of Jordans. That's it. I ain't give a damn

907
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: I go to school. I haven't God, damn pampa on.

908
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: As long as I got you know what I'm saying,

909
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: Like it was, it was, it was, It was nothing

910
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: to me. I was a kid, man, I mean, I

911
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: was a guy. I didn't I had the childhood, man,

912
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have no excuses on anything that

913
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: happened in my life. I don't have no one to blame.

914
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: I don't have I don't, man, I don't. When when

915
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: things don't go right, you know what I mean, When

916
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: when you ask somebody to do something for you, you

917
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean, they don't do it? How mad

918
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: can you get with them, but I'm not doing it.

919
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: Do it yourself, you know what I mean, or don't

920
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: don't don't put that on them. You know what I'm saying,

921
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Like I just I just I concentrate so much, like

922
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: we just you just heard me going about the seventh

923
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: soning like and my my girls say, like, how do

924
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: you watch this every day? You know what I'm saying,

925
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: how do you watch good times every day? Like I love,

926
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 2: I love my gangster ship like I love you know

927
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: all of that, you know what I mean. But I

928
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: just like to like and I and I. It ain't

929
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: that bad. You ain't you know, obviously dead, that's one thing,

930
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: But you ain't in jail, man. You ain't blind, you

931
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: ain't deaf, you know what I mean. You got all

932
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: your limbs. Like what you complaining about? You know, that's

933
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: the one thing I try to control in my life.

934
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: Just complaining about shit all the time. You know what

935
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Like I mean it and it don't it

936
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: don't do no good. I mean for you to do it.

937
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: There's not one excuse in that book. All of this

938
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: is accountability throughout the whole.

939
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: I ain't making none, man. And then because that's the

940
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: easy way for somebody to look up to Alan Norblinson

941
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: have to have a cop out, you know what I mean,

942
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: easy way, you know what I mean, complaining about something,

943
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 2: man do it. And I hate when people think that

944
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: like that it's arrogant and that's cow. I've always been confident.

945
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: I ain't. I mean, I've never been arrogant. I've never

946
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: been cocky, just confident, you know what I mean. And

947
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: the one thing about like just just people just it

948
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: bothered me that you don't think that this is your world,

949
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: This is your world. It don't mean you're not being arrogant,

950
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: You're not being selfish thinking, you know what I mean,

951
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: Like you're the only one that matter in the world,

952
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But it's yours. This is

953
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: your life. Everything happens, you know, you the one you

954
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: ain't going nowhere. You might see everybody go before you,

955
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's gonna hurt when people

956
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: go or whatever. But this is this is the one

957
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: shot that you got, you know what I mean, to

958
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 2: be happy to make these decisions and live with them,

959
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You concentrate on making mistakes

960
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: and hopefully you don't make the same mistake twice and

961
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: and live your live your life. Man, you got one

962
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: shot at this. Man. Ain't nothing wrong with being you, Man,

963
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing wrong with it. Man, you can't be everybody else.

964
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: You can't. You know what I mean. You can't worry

965
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: about worry about what you can control. Man, You know

966
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like I want some money. I want

967
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: to be the richest man in the world. I want

968
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: all the money. You know what I mean?

969
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 4: Yes, you know how you missed that on some money?

970
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: Not registering AI how much time with.

971
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: I got? I got the real guy? But register the sleeve,

972
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like like like if I

973
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: get that copy written, like the sleeve, man, everybody with man,

974
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: people playing golf wearing the sleep. I seen R Kelly

975
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: had sleeve on. So what Kelly fell off the stage?

976
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? The man got a sleeve

977
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: on in the video, yo, Man, like du like the

978
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: Steve is it's part of people, Like it's this it's

979
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: a swag. I'm wearing it. Like the whole reason I'm

980
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: wearing it because I'm hurt, you know what I mean.

981
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 2: Like it's a it's a it's a it's a lot

982
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: of opportunities that that were there that I passed up on.

983
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: But like I don't look at it like that. I

984
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: think now what like now where you're going at? Now?

985
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do? You know what I mean? Like

986
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: every time God opened my eyes, I'm just you know,

987
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think positive. But life be life.

988
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: Like you know, you get a phone call, you know, hey, man,

989
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: like like, yo, I need you to do this. Bro,

990
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: you're asking me for this, you know what I mean?

991
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: Thousands of dollars. Christmas is a couple of days away.

992
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: Like why you ain't ask me this? You know what

993
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean? Man, I'm asking you. You know, can you

994
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: do that? All right? I'm gonna do it for you,

995
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I ain't saying you know,

996
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: and all the people that I'm talking about, they certain

997
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: people are not gonna get upset because they know I'm

998
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: not talking about it, you know what I mean. But

999
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: you know, like like dude, you know I say, Yo,

1000
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I take care of that, you

1001
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You're my man, I take care

1002
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: of that. You know what I mean. I said, But

1003
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it with my card, put it on

1004
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: my car, so send me the information. Don't like that.

1005
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it on my car. Oh no, no, no,

1006
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: I need cash, man, I need cash. What was doing Megas?

1007
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be taken care of Vegas.

1008
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: Can't be choosing it didn't take care difference than it's

1009
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: a lie.

1010
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: Then I got called a clown and no, yeah, crazy,

1011
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: like I'm talking about I've been and I've been. This

1012
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: dude was my homeboy since I was like thirty. I

1013
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: mean like it's been thirty thirty eight years man, and

1014
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: been homeboys.

1015
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: You went above and beyond my brother, because anybody.

1016
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 5: Ever tried to like come to you and say, look,

1017
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 5: look my bad. I was tripping like back then. I

1018
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 5: kept asking and acting and accent and you were doing

1019
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 5: and I just I took advantage for you as anybody

1020
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: ever come to you to take accountability one person.

1021
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: You are incredible because it just happened. It just happened.

1022
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: And my man was telling me that the same thing

1023
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: you just said. He told my man that my man

1024
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: told me and it was like went on death is

1025
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, yes, I heard him say

1026
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: that before. And he keep doing it. You know what

1027
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you keep doing it? You know what

1028
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like the hardest, the hardest part, Like the

1029
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: hardest part is when it's a homeboy or homegirl and

1030
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: you want to cut them off because of how they

1031
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: treat you, not because of how you treat them. You know,

1032
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: they think you're treating bad, treating them bad because you

1033
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: implemented that word no in your vocabulary. But the hardest

1034
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: thing is when it's somebody that you love. The hardest

1035
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: thing is questioning yourself, like, damn, am I wrong for this?

1036
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: Am I going too far? You know what I mean?

1037
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: Like you always try to look at yourself and feel

1038
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: like if you could have did something wrong, I mean,

1039
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: if you I'm sorry, if you could have did something right,

1040
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1041
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: Not wrong boundaries?

1042
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 6: My brother, I got a question for you. You talked

1043
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 6: about your wife to wanna praying over. You decided not

1044
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 6: to drink anymore as a husband. What have you discovered now?

1045
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: Boyfriend?

1046
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 6: Boyfriend?

1047
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 4: I mean, we got divorce, so you married the boys

1048
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 4: and y'all got right back together like six months later

1049
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: or something.

1050
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to do I want this point

1051
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: to be made because you think I'm who I am

1052
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: and I was out of control. I was out of control.

1053
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: And this threat was there for years, for years and

1054
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: years and years and years and years, and it's like

1055
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: the boy cried wolf, like whatever, I heard that before,

1056
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then it was like

1057
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 2: she got to the point where like, yo, I gotta

1058
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: show this motherfucker. I gotta do something to show him

1059
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm serious. And that's what happened. You in that courtroom

1060
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: and you're looking over there and you see number one

1061
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: right there, and you're looking down at that paper and

1062
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: them tears hitting that that page and they don't say,

1063
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, I've been Georgetown versus Georgetown and it's been

1064
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: a scrimmage or six's versus sixes, and you're looking at

1065
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: the stat sheet whatever, I'm looking at Iverson versus Iverson,

1066
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And like, yo, shit is real,

1067
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, and did you wear suit? Look?

1068
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: I really was defiant then, you know what I mean,

1069
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: Like you got me in here, you know what I mean.

1070
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: And I had a judge and judge was vicious, like

1071
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't do nothing right.

1072
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 6: Even in that moment you were defined. Yeah, I'm no, no,

1073
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 6: it is your interview. I was just gonna say, even

1074
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 6: in that moment, you were defined, and I guess upset

1075
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 6: even though you knew, because you said you knew you

1076
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 6: were out of control. But so like in that moment,

1077
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 6: why are you defining upset if she's just doing what

1078
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 6: she thinks is going to help, I guess, to get

1079
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 6: you to a better spot for her.

1080
00:54:53,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: I was selfishly thinking about my demid because I know

1081
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: in my heart and in my mind that I can't

1082
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: live with our You know what I'm saying, like I

1083
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 2: know it, like I know it. I took, I took

1084
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 2: her love for me for granted, you know what I mean,

1085
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: Like as far as she loving me so much that

1086
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: I felt, like you know that she would never she

1087
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: would never go go nowhere like this is all I've known.

1088
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: This is the only love that I've ever known, as

1089
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: far as like, I've never loved someone like this in

1090
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: my life, you know what I mean? Then, a lot

1091
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: of times, you know, all women would say, or even guys,

1092
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: you know, anybody that's you know, logical about anything, how

1093
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: you love her so much and you do the things?

1094
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: And I don't have an answer.

1095
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: We never do though, as men, we never do. We

1096
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: don't know why we do the dumb.

1097
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 6: Shit we do so how has not drinking and you know,

1098
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 6: it seems like you're, you know, your focus is different

1099
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 6: in this time of your life. How has that made

1100
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 6: you go As we discover each other in a relationship.

1101
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm uh, I'm Claire Huxtable. I'm

1102
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: in Cliff. I'm Cliff Huxortable. Now like i'm I'm I'm

1103
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: I kind of get a feeling like I'm the guy

1104
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: like I felt always felt like, you know, I was

1105
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: the guy she always wanted you know what I mean,

1106
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: wanted to be, you know, wanted me to be. But

1107
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: I really feel like that guy now, Like I feel

1108
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: like it's not the Huxtables around there obviously, but like

1109
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: she loved you know this me, you know, because you

1110
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: always getting this me. It's hard to take advantage of

1111
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: somebody that can see ship clear as hell, you know

1112
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: what I mean, opposed to being nonchalant about everything, you

1113
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it's you know, my homeboys

1114
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: says a different Chuck. Now, you know what I mean.

1115
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: I see, I see what's going on, you know what

1116
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean. All stuff that I used to, you know,

1117
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: not pay attention to, I'm paying attention to it now.

1118
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, And I just think, you know,

1119
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: by me making this decision, it's so much better for

1120
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: not just myself, everybody around me. I can help better.

1121
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: My advice is better, you know what I mean. Like

1122
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm a better friend now, I'm a better family member.

1123
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: You know this shit is clear, you know what I'm saying.

1124
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: Like I promise you I'm the smartest man in the

1125
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: world because I know him not you know what I mean,

1126
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: I know him not like, but I know how if

1127
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: it's a certain feel of you know how we need

1128
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: some help, help, and you know what I mean, opposed

1129
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: to just just doing it all way and thinking we know, no, man,

1130
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: we gotta go to we gotta go to this person,

1131
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: We gotta go to that person. We gotta do it

1132
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: this way, we gotta do it that way, you know

1133
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: what I mean. Put your ego aside. Man, We're trying

1134
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: to get it done. We need to get it done.

1135
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: But we're gonna get it done right. And it's just

1136
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: an everlution of me. It took long, you know what

1137
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: I mean, But I just think about it, like, Yo,

1138
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: you embarrassed. You know, first, it was embarrassing that you know,

1139
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: talking about that seen the ship went viral yesterday and

1140
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: you embarrassed, you know, with the whole thing. But it's like, damn, bro,

1141
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: that's another thing that you know, by you being you

1142
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: and being comfortable in your own skin, it's gonna help

1143
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: somebody else. Somebody might make that decision.

1144
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: Right somebody's trying to be sober right now.

1145
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that whatever time, because I

1146
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 4: didn't get it from the book where anybody recommended therapy

1147
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: to you, because it was clear you was my girl.

1148
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: Okay, like you need some help, you know what I mean.

1149
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: You don't remember what was? Are you coming to a

1150
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: get up that ship? You said last month?

1151
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1152
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: Just starting ship, you know what I mean? And then

1153
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: she used to be like you ran you running around

1154
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: with all these dudes all day long and y'all drinking

1155
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: and have a ball, and you come in here fucking

1156
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: with me. I'm talking about where your piece is at? Man,

1157
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because you going but women

1158
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: know you leave that house. Man, we tackling the world

1159
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: like you. It's going down. It's hard for me, like

1160
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: I said, to go to the grocery store, to go

1161
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: to Target, Walmart. I gotta be all and irvus and

1162
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: every day I walk in the house, and one thing

1163
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: about it, everybody, everybody out there, if you think about it,

1164
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: somebody gonna see you and feel like this is the

1165
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: last opportunity that I'm ever gonna get to see him

1166
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: and this is my moment. That's what you know what

1167
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: I mean? When they see oh shit, it's like and

1168
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: then you you somewhere and you're paying for something, and

1169
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: then you finish and you turn around and you see

1170
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: so many people. You see cameras and then you see

1171
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: and they do the ship sho like like getting ready

1172
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: to jump rope. You see everybody, like everybody everybody time,

1173
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it's like it's like

1174
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: it's like, bro, you want to be you want to

1175
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: like you wanna it's so much you go out when

1176
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: you come in the crib man to be you know

1177
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like fall on, you know, on the

1178
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: couch and and and you have made it through the storm,

1179
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Because like my fans, like

1180
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: they they got real love man, you know what I mean.

1181
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: But some of them, when you can you can distinguish

1182
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: a fan, a truth fan, and just somebody that you know,

1183
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 2: give a damn about how nice you was on the court,

1184
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: because a truth fan, give a fuck about you. You

1185
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you feed them feeding my daughter?

1186
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm in the restaurant and

1187
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: stick a piece of paper and paying them. Sign this

1188
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 2: right here, Ai, you know what I mean. Hold on baby,

1189
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: let me and this and I you know I love women,

1190
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean to death. I love all

1191
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: my fans, but women fans are they don't like taking no.

1192
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Dude, tell you know all

1193
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: the time. But me somebody you don't know, tell you

1194
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: know you go crazy in a minute. I'm feeding my

1195
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: daughter right now. Now, Well fuck you there in Ai.

1196
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant better than you anyway. Tell me I'm gonna

1197
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: burn these shoes I bought. I brought your shoes. I

1198
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: bought your jersey. I'm like, I ain't say no. I

1199
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: just said, let me finish my daughter, you know what

1200
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: I mean. Like it's it's it's just it's crazy. I

1201
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: remember I was at David Buses with the kids. I'm

1202
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: on the phone talking to my mom and a lady

1203
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: walked up to me and she was like, hey, let

1204
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: me talk to you iself. Hold on, man, I'm talking

1205
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 2: to my mom on the phone right now. What's your

1206
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: mom more important than your fans? Yeah? I was like yo,

1207
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: I was like yo, I was looking let me just

1208
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: get away from you. You know what I mean. But

1209
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: that's like, you know, all in the nutshell man being

1210
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: a celebrity. Man, you say that because people think about

1211
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: the money and the fame and the talent or whatever.

1212
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: Man you say you want this life and whatever. Man,

1213
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: you really man, A lot of people, if they would meet,

1214
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: would have been jumped off a building and put a

1215
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: pistol to their head and blew it off.

1216
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 5: By Now, that's the crazy thing. Little John said that

1217
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,479
Speaker 5: same thing when we had him. He said, you gotta

1218
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 5: be built, you gotta have tough skin. This is not

1219
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 5: an easy industry to be in. But your influence was

1220
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 5: crazy because I'm telling you, Allen evinceins, I was getting

1221
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 5: them and I was getting bitches and I wasn't even gay.

1222
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: In middle school.

1223
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 5: I would come get my hand braided. And that's good,

1224
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 5: you told me hand on hang time. I didn't either,

1225
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 5: put the bitches ain't no, because I had the absence.

1226
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, so your time in Philly, right, I mean influencing

1227
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 6: impacts and everything you did. But Philly embraced you so

1228
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 6: much and the person you aren't meeting you I get

1229
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 6: it now, but you know, Philly don't embrace everybody. What

1230
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 6: was your time like there? Just in like what were

1231
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 6: you doing? I guess to lean into that or like

1232
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 6: I don't know, like did you feel the okay? They

1233
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 6: love me here like when you walk out onto the

1234
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 6: streets and not at first because people, you know, Philly

1235
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 6: is tough.

1236
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: The toughest and they called it his brotherly love. That's

1237
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: about it. My relationship, not in the beginning, but I

1238
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: think I have I would I would say Michael Jordan

1239
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: and uh Chicago, Steph and a state who else you

1240
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: know said the Bay Area now probably Shay in Oklahoma City.

1241
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: I think I have the best relationship with a fan base,

1242
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: I think in sports history, you know what I mean,

1243
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: Like that's that's crazy. And Kobel Kobe, you know what

1244
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean. They watched me grow up. I was twenty

1245
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: one years old when I got there, Like they watched me,

1246
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: you know, go through my ups and downs. But I

1247
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: played every game like it was my last. And if

1248
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 2: you know Philadelphia, that's all they really want like I could.

1249
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: I was telling Steve yesterday, like I could be out there,

1250
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: I can go oh for Winfrey from the field, you

1251
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But they knew that AI played

1252
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: as hard as he could, you know what I mean.

1253
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: I could look in the mirror after the game every

1254
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: game I played, hurt, sick, whatever, and look at the mirror,

1255
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: and I know I felt bad, you know, I felt good.

1256
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: I upset about not playing well, but I knew that

1257
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: I played that game like it was my last. People

1258
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia love that, and all relationship has been that,

1259
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Since I've been retired with

1260
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: fifteen years now, and the relationship is still the same.

1261
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: You walk in the building, it's the same feeling. And

1262
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: then the people in Philadelphia are used to me outside

1263
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: of being in that arena, barbershops and everywhere. Applebee's. Well,

1264
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: I was a.

1265
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 6: Little younger, so I came a little bit after.

1266
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: You weren't there.

1267
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 6: Weren't in Fridays when I was there. But yeah, Club

1268
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 6: Fridays was a thing.

1269
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: It became the third largest Fridays in the country, you

1270
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it was really a club,

1271
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Line, they started checking out

1272
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: ideas you had to get you had to have reservations

1273
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, Like it was it

1274
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: was crazy, you know what I mean. Philly. I love Philadelphia.

1275
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean I love it, you know what I mean.

1276
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: But it's just just like Virginia. I can't never like

1277
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: live there, you know what I mean. Like when I retired,

1278
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: I went to Florida, like trying to get away from everything.

1279
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: Then it's just meet her and the kids and no family,

1280
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: no friends, like nah, you know what I mean. So

1281
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: I moved in Charlotte. It's close to Virginia, but you know,

1282
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: I can never go live there again. But people have

1283
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: worried of me the damn death, you know what I mean.

1284
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: Like we're close. My mom could drive or our flight.

1285
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: Right it saying you gotta wrap I do.

1286
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 4: Got one last question, man, you changed the entire culture

1287
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 4: of basketball, but to me, you change black culture. You

1288
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 4: also change hip hop culture from your fashion to your

1289
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 4: attitude to just your authenticity.

1290
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: When you see how the NBA in the.

1291
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 4: World embraces individuality, Now, do you feel celebrated or do

1292
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 4: you still feel misunderstood?

1293
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: Nah, it's I get the opportunity, Like this is opportunity

1294
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: for me, you know what I mean, Like all of

1295
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: those years you wanted to you know, you wanted this.

1296
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: Oh man, you got me wrong, you know what I mean.

1297
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: Talk about it to your family and your friends. Man,

1298
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: I'm misunderstood. Man, they don't They ain't getting it, you

1299
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It ain't like that. And then

1300
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: this platform and then all the other big platforms, you know,

1301
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: just you guys giving me an opportunity to come up

1302
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: here and ask me shit that I want to answer

1303
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: that that I want the world to know, you know

1304
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: what I mean. I want them to know that it

1305
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: ain't like that. It's like this, you know what I mean.

1306
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: Then you're hearing it from someone else, you know what

1307
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean, someone else telling who Alan Iverson is. Then

1308
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: just to have the opportunity to do it in the

1309
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: excitement about it is the long wait because now I

1310
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: finally get a chance to Man, you was wrong. You

1311
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: had me fucked up like that ain't what it is,

1312
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And going through your career,

1313
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: you can't explain to everybody every situation it don't, you

1314
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And this book took years, you

1315
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. The documentary took years to do

1316
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: and man, I just I'm just happy that I get

1317
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: an opportunity to to tell my story or write my

1318
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: story and and help and help and help somebody, you

1319
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Just like you know Michael Jordan

1320
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: did for me, you know what I mean, Like he

1321
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: If it wasn't for no Michael Jordan, it would not

1322
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: be the Allen Iverson and everybody in the world. Know, Like,

1323
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: I literally like he gave me the vision. Man Like,

1324
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to be like him, you know

1325
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: what I mean. That's who I want to be. Him

1326
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 2: and Michael Michael Jackson. I want all the dudes to

1327
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: love me, you know what I mean. I want all

1328
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: the girls to love me, you know what I mean.

1329
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: I want to put that in one you know what

1330
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I want to be you know, uh,

1331
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: not just a basketball player, but just big all the way.

1332
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: And I didn't I didn't get this vision until until

1333
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: I started to take care of what I had to

1334
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: do on the basketball court and then becoming a cultural icon,

1335
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Okay, all these rappers, all

1336
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 2: these people in the world that want to just express

1337
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: themselves the way they want to express themselves. Now they

1338
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: get an opportunity. Man, he can do it. Man, Ain't

1339
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with what I'm doing, regardless of high look.

1340
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: Regardless high look. Everybody talk about that that runway walking

1341
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: into the game. I'm watching it, you know what I mean.

1342
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't like everything up there, but I just love

1343
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: their confidence of walking in there, like, yeah, I'm doing

1344
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: it today, you know what I mean, And like just

1345
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: my story. All I want is for people to get

1346
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: out of it. Man, It's all right to be you.

1347
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: It's all right, you know what I mean. It's things

1348
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen in your life and it's gonna be tough,

1349
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But that's when you're gonna

1350
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: lean on number one. You're gonna lean on him, gonna

1351
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: lean on God. You don't. You don't ask them, uh

1352
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: any you don't question him at all, you know what

1353
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: I mean. Whatever happened happened, I ain't. My grandma told

1354
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: me when I went to jail, that bowling alley thing.

1355
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: I said, Now, why are they doing this to me?

1356
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: If they know I didn't do what they said? I

1357
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: did question, never questioned God, and I've never done it

1358
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: since then, you know what I mean? Whatever he do?

1359
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm cool with it, you

1360
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. He driving this car and I'm

1361
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: gonna just sitting there, ride shotgun wherever he take me.

1362
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 2: That's where I'm going, and I'm gonna live with the results.

1363
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: So that's that's the only thing I want. I just think, man, live, man, laugh,

1364
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: love man. We love you brother, you out right now.

1365
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: I got God.

1366
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.

1367
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 3: Good morning, every day, up waking.

1368
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. You're finished for yar dumb