1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: I was in a straight relationship with a man and 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: was engaged, and my life was taking a course that 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: I thought I could see the ending. But when I 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: was in it, I just thought, this isn't it for me. 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: When that ended, it forced me to take a look 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: at what is it about myself that needs to change 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: or that I need to accept And I realized that 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: at the time, was just too queer to marry a man, 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: and I wasn't identifying as female anymore. Hey, everyone, welcome 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: the world. Thanks to each and every single one of 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: you that come back every week to listen, learn, and grow. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for the incredible community that we have 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: and just how engaged you are and how thoughtful you 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: are in the insights that you take away from every episode. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to be talking to you today. 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. My new book, Eight Rules of 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Love is out and I cannot wait to share it 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: with you. I am so so excited for you to 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: read this book, for you to listen to this book. 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: I read the audiobook. 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Now, today's guest needs no introduction whatsoever, 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: but I am so grateful that I get to interview 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: them and spend time with them today. I met them 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: probably first time a couple of years ago, and then 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: we met on a set, and now we're getting to 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: be together again. I'm speaking about someone that I believe 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: is one of the most vulnerable, honest, genuine and sincere 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: humans that exists, and someone who transparently shares their truth 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, no matter how difficult 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: or challenging it may be, so that we can benefit 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: from it. I'm talking about the one and only Demi Levado. Demi, 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing this. I am so grateful. Honestly, 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much you want to give 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: you a big hug right now. Oh wow, thank you, 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. That was such an incredible intro, 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: and I it means a lot to me that you 46 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: I it means a lot to me that you invited 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: me on here, and I'm excited to chat with you. 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: I know me too too. Last time we were together, 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: you were interviewing me for your awesome show and I 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: got to sit down with you. We were sitting on 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: these amazing clouds and this is beautiful set that you 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and your team are desire, and today we're doing it virtually, 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: but I still feel your presence like I did that day, 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: and I wanted to start by asking you just just 55 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts to get going. But you know, 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: for a lot of us, the quarantine gave us time 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: to think about new things. I was wondering if you 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: developed any new hobbies or started doing something recently that 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: you hadn't done before, or experimenting with anything at all. 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: So quarantine totally changed my life, and I feel like 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: I picked up so many little things that I just 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: didn't used to do. I used to never spend time outside, 63 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: and I feel like now I go outside and I 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: play with my squirrels, my backyard squirrels, and like, you know, 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: just feeding the animals in my backyard is something that 66 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I never used to do, and now I do that 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: and I have a connection with these little beings and 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: they're so sweet. And then I got into candle making, wow, 69 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: and like making making your own body oils things like that, fragrances. 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: And then I also got into photography. I mean, I 71 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: learned so much about myself. So it's just it's been 72 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: quite the little journey. That's incredible. I love hearing that. 73 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 1: By the way, my wife loves feeding all the animals 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: in our back garden as well, until they ended up 75 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: until they ended up now digging up huge holes in 76 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: the ground because she keeps encouraging them to come back 77 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: too much, and now there's all these pot holes in 78 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: the ground. But I love that you have to keep 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: them fed. Yes, yes, exactly. But candle making sounds phenomenal. 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: I mean, my wife and I actually tried to create 81 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: a scent and it's actually really challenging. It's it's so 82 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: underrated as a skill. It takes so much effort to 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: actually create a beautiful scent, right, Yes, it actually does 84 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: take a lot of practice. A lot of skill. I 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: feel like for every candle that I nail, there's like 86 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: twelve candles that I didn't that are going to the 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: trash or like last year, I just ended up giving 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: them as gifts and I was like, look, I don't 89 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: know which one smell good? Here, take it, just try it. 90 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: I love that. Well, Demi, you know you're someone who's 91 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: always sharing and talking. But I want to want to 92 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: rewind a bit with you and I wanted to go 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: back to Demi as a child, and I wanted to 94 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: ask you when you were young, young, like tiny young. 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't you are young, I mean tiny young, when 96 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: you were really young, a young child, who did you 97 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: want to be? What did you want to be? What 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of things did you think about? What were you 99 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: fascinated by? Well, I was a very ambitious little five 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: year old, but that five year old said, I want 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: to be the next Shirley Temple. And because I knew 102 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: who Shirley Temple was, I knew what she had accomplished 103 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: at such a young age, I wanted to I wanted 104 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: to do that, and I wanted to be the youngest 105 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: person to ever win a Grammy, the youngest person to 106 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: ever win an oscar um and didn't work out. That's okay, um, 107 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: but you know, that's how how much I dreamed when 108 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: I was younger, And um, so I've always dreamed really 109 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: really big. That's that's incredible. And when you dreamt big. 110 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: And of course you've had incredible success across your career, 111 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: incredible impact and and you know, won so many awards 112 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: and accolades, but it seems like the impact that you've 113 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: had as time has gone on has become deeper and 114 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: more profound. I genuinely feel that as someone who's been 115 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: an admirer of yours and a fan of yours and 116 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: watching from afar, but I just feel that awards and 117 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: accolades can't have the impact on people's lives that you've 118 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: had through through the work that you do off mike 119 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: and off screen. And I wonder if there was an 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: experience in your childhood or something you went through that 121 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: encouraged you to be that way, or maybe even something 122 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: that you forgot about for a long time. But was 123 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: there an event or something that happened when you were 124 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: younger that gave you an inkling or a feeling of 125 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the type of work that you're doing today. I used 126 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: to deal with depression at a really young age, and 127 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: I always told myself that if I made it, I 128 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: would help people. And I kind of like made this 129 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: promise with God, and I said, if you make me 130 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: a famous singer, then I will try to make the 131 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: world a better place. And and then so I became 132 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: a singer, and here I am trying to make the 133 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: world a better place. I talk about consciousness a lot 134 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: because it's something that I feel like is extremely important. 135 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Expanding our consciousness is now like my merry goal as 136 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: a citizen of the earth. Just trying to help people 137 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: expand their consciousness is really important to me because I 138 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: feel like that's the only way we can we can 139 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: move forward as a species. And yeah, when I was younger, 140 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: it used to be I want to help people with depression. 141 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I want to help people who were bullied because I 142 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: was bullied in school. And so I've always kind of 143 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: just taken a part of my life and thought, Okay, 144 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: how where did I need a role model or where 145 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: did I need support from someone that I love in 146 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: the industry. But I didn't get it growing up. And 147 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: that's what I've always tried to be for people is 148 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: something that I never had growing up. I find it 149 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: so powerful when someone tends their pain into their purpose 150 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: or something that broke them into a breakthrough for other people. 151 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: I love that transformation that when you've been through something 152 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: that's really hurtful, but you use that to help other 153 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: people heal. I think there's there's so much goodness and 154 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: greatness in that. And as you've been doing that, I 155 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: wonder what were the things that helped you expand your consciousness? 156 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I love that. I love what you said. I want 157 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: to help people expand their consciousness, which is such a 158 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: beautiful aspiration. What were some of the things that opened 159 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: you up to those ideas? Were those ideas that you 160 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: always had or was this something that you experienced that 161 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: helped you expand your own Most of my life I've 162 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: spent trying to figure out what it is in my 163 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: life that's going wrong and how I can fix it. 164 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty, when the world shut down and 165 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: we were stuck at home, I wasn't focusing so much 166 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: on myself anymore because there were so many things going 167 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: on in the news that were so they felt so 168 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: much bigger than what I was dealing with. And I 169 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: realized in that period of time that my life kind 170 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: of shifted. It was always I'm going to talk about 171 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: my story, what I went through, how I got out 172 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: of it, and I'm going to help others. And then 173 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: it was like in twenty twenty, I thought, oh my gosh, 174 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: this is so much bigger than me, This is so 175 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: much bigger than just my story, and I need to 176 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: get out there and I need to help people tell theirs. 177 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: And so it became about sharing stories that weren't my 178 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: own on my social media pages. And then from there 179 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: it kind of became I don't know, I started meditating 180 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: a lot. Meditation with something for me that was really 181 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: transformative because I really went inward and when I went inward, 182 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: my mind grew outward. If that makes sense, and I don't. 183 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, but it just does. Yeah, 184 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: that's that's such a beautiful way of explaining meditation. I 185 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: love that definition. I've never I've never heard of it before, 186 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: and it reminded me of something though. So in the 187 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Vedic tradition, there's a word that I think you'll like, 188 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: and it's in the Sanskrit language, and it's it's it 189 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: sounds like this and I'll explain what it means. It 190 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: sounds like unter a cash and what that means is 191 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: in a sky, and so it says that we all 192 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: have this inn a sky and we're all like enamored 193 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: by the sunsets and the sunrise and the sky that's outward, 194 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: but there's a sky inside of us. And yeah, there's 195 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: a whole universe. There's a whole universe. Yeah. Yeah, when 196 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: you experience that, it's traveling inward. And I think we 197 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: all are so fascinated we're traveling, and we all feel 198 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: so stuck when we can't travel. But there's a whole 199 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: journey within that that's open for us all to take, 200 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: which it sounds like you've been on. I feel like 201 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: I did more traveling in twenty twenty than I did 202 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: my whole career because most of the traveling that I 203 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: did was inward and at the journeys that I've taken 204 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: just personally have been so profound and life changing. Absolutely. 205 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you've gone on lots of journeys. I wanted 206 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: to touch on one specifically to start with, but I'd 207 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: love to hear about others. And you know, gender expression 208 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: has been a sensitive topic to so many people, but 209 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: you were very open, brave and courageous to be able 210 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: to share with your community earlier this year. And I 211 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about that because I feel 212 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: that that's sometimes when you're looking within and you're traveling, 213 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: you come across things maybe that you didn't know about, 214 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: or you come across things that maybe were hidden away 215 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: or covered over or pushed aside, or maybe they weren't 216 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: allowed to breathe. Tell us what it was like when 217 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: you started becoming aware of your identity and was that 218 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: a surprise or was it something that you knew was 219 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: there but that you just felt you didn't get to 220 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: expand your consciousness to it. I felt like it was 221 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: the ladder of what you just said. I felt like 222 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: it was always there, and I always knew that I 223 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: was different. I always I always felt like like like 224 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: one day it would click, and finally I felt like 225 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: it did. I was in a relationship, in a straight 226 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: relationship with a man and was engaged, and my life 227 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: was taking a course that I I thought I could 228 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: see the ending, but at the but when I was 229 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: in it, I just thought, this isn't this isn't it 230 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: for me? And when that ended, It forced me to 231 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: take a look at what is it about myself that 232 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm that that needs to change or that I need 233 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: to accept. And I realized that I'm too I would 234 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: at the time was just too queer to marry a man, 235 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: and I wasn't identifying as female anymore. And I realized 236 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: that because I had become friends with a good friend 237 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: of my name a Looak Fidmanon, and I went to 238 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: a poetry slam show or performance that they did and 239 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: they talked about being non binary, and that show really 240 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: resonated with me. But it was right after that that 241 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: I kind of jumped into a hetero relationship and you know, 242 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: really started to play that role of like the female 243 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: just being engaged. Do you know the whole thing I 244 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: just I wasn't allowing myself time to get to know 245 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: myself before I jumped into something. And I think that 246 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, being stuck at home and you're having you're 247 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: forced to take a look at yourself outside of the 248 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: lights and the cameras and the this and the that. 249 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: I realized that I'm not who I am on stage, 250 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: and and also there's so much more to me than that, 251 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: And that was a cool lesson to learn. That's so beautiful. 252 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing that, And you know 253 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: every I've heard you share that transition before, but as 254 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm hearing you say it now, I love how it's 255 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: giving yourself permission to be more of yourself. And in 256 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: my own way, I can resonate with it because I 257 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: remember when I graduated, I decided to go and live 258 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: as a monk for three years instead of going into 259 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: the world, and those three years gave me time to 260 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: really build a relationship with myself. And whenever ever anyone 261 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: asks me, like, what did you do during that time? 262 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: I said, the biggest thing I gained from that time 263 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: was that I got three years where there were no opinions, 264 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: no expectations, no obligations, no noise, no predictions, projections or 265 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: interpretations of who I was or who I should be, 266 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: and I just got to be. And that it sounds 267 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: like there's a similar experience and the solitude of being 268 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: away in yours case from the lights and the cameras, 269 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: in my case, just from the normal life I would 270 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: have led. There's so much greatness there. How did you 271 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: when you're doing that process, though, DENI, there can be 272 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: so many uncomfortable, awkward, difficult things that you experience and 273 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: see and hear. How did you create a mindset that 274 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: allowed you to accept that with grace, to receive that 275 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: with openness rather than start to judge or criticize yourself. 276 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: What did you do to navigate that? I had a 277 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: lot of conversations with people around me that were familiar 278 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: with my situation and what I was experiencing and and 279 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: what I had learned about being non binary and gender nonconforming, 280 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: and so I had a lot of support around me 281 00:16:52,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: to navigate through those times and through those conversations, And yeah, 282 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: I just started to I started to try on the 283 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: non binary identity, and the longer that I wore it, 284 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the more it felt right. And for me, I know 285 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: that there's going to be people that don't accept me 286 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: for how I identify, but there's always going to be 287 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: someone that doesn't accept you for some reason. So I 288 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: just kind of take it with a grain of salt 289 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: when somebody isn't ready to learn what being non binary 290 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: or gender nonconforming means. And I just think to myself 291 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: inside my head when I when I hear someone either 292 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: purposely mess up my pronouns or just disregard. You know, 293 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: I just think, okay, if they're not ready yet, and 294 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: one day they will be, and that's okay. Yeah, I 295 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: saw that. I remember when you posted it on Instagram. 296 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: That was such a you have such a forgiving, open, 297 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: patient approach to people trying to get to understand you. 298 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: And I find that so refreshing and endearing because I 299 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: think we're living at a time where and I'm not 300 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: speaking about specifically when we're talk about gender, I'm saying 301 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: just generally, there's a struggle with patience right now in society, 302 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: and some of that is needed. We need some urgency, 303 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: we need change fast, We do need pushing. What's allowing 304 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: you to remain patient and gentle with people as they 305 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: are trying to understand not just you, but understand so 306 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: many other people in the community, and maybe, as you said, 307 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: sometimes purposely messing up your pronouns or they may not 308 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: be taking the time. How are you developing that patience 309 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: and love and compassion. Well, that patience, love and compassion 310 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: doesn't just come from anywhere. It definitely comes from a 311 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: practice of meditating, having grace in some people just aren't 312 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: ready and that's okay, And meditation helps me a lot 313 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: to have grace and compassion for those people. Because when 314 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: I do sit down to meditate and I'm in a 315 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: place where I'm angry, I sit and I think, and 316 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: I you know, I try to clear my mind, but 317 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: if I can't, I think through it and I end 318 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: up coming to a point where I just I release 319 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: the anger. And maybe it was because I know I'm 320 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: a Leo, and Leo's can be very stubborn, Like I 321 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: work so hard not to be stubborn, and so I 322 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: try to have grace because it is so easy for 323 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: me to hold a grudge against people. I can hold 324 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: a grudge and never speak to someone again, and that's 325 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: not a trait that I'm proud of, because I've realized 326 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: that that that's not a very human thing to do. 327 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Being human is having compassion and and understanding and respect 328 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: for people even when they mess up. And because we 329 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: all do, we all mess up, and I've I've messed 330 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: up a bunch, but I know that because I've messed up, 331 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: I could have grace and mercy for other people when 332 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: they mess up. I love that. I cannot tell you 333 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: how beautiful that is to hear, and I can't wait 334 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: for everyone to hear that. I think it's such a true, true, 335 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: true statement that the mistakes we've all made, which we 336 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: all make, I've made loads of mistakes, and you're saying 337 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: you have to all those mistakes that they ground us, 338 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: they humble us, they remind us of how we're all. 339 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: No one is immune to making a mistake, and anyone 340 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: at any time can make a mistake knowingly unknowingly. And 341 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: actually I'm going to play that part specifically to my 342 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: wife because my wife is a Leo and she's so 343 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: stubborn and she knows it, yes, And so what you 344 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: just said to me, I did not know that trait 345 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: that I didn't know that was a Leo trait. So 346 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to play that exact part to my wife 347 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: and like, look what DEMI saying. It's about the only 348 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: thing I know about my astrology sign. Yeah, I did 349 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: not know that at all. So now I am I 350 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: am feeling that I can be more compassionate towards my 351 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: wife when she when she is stubborn, because yeah, because 352 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: it's part of part of the traits. Tell me a 353 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: bit about you know, what do you think when when 354 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: you're one of the things that you did this year. 355 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: And this was actually when I when I first watched 356 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: your documentary Dancing at the Devil, I was completely blown away, 357 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: Like it was it was incredible, It was, it was incredible. 358 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: It's just I couldn't believe where you took us and 359 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: where you will allowed us in. And and I know 360 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: you said in this episode, in this podcast, you just 361 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: said that, you know, you shared your story and then 362 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you realized the perspective that it was so much bigger 363 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: than your story, which, by the way, is again such 364 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: a wonderful perspective. At the same time, You've been through 365 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: so much that when you share it helps so many. 366 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: You talked about so many. You talked about an experience 367 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: with rape, you talked about experiences with you know, sexual 368 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: abuse and assault. And when I hear about those things, 369 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: and I still see you coming and rising like a phoenix, 370 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, from from all these like challenges and pain. 371 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: I wonder where is your strength coming from today? Like 372 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: where do you look to for strength? You said meditation 373 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: there and I'd love you to guide us through your 374 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: meditation practice. Is there anything else that's giving you strength? 375 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: What's giving me strength? I mean, there's strength all around me, 376 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: and that's my support system, whether that's my friends or 377 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: my treatment team, or it's my friends, my family, you know, 378 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: it's it's people around me. I always have support and 379 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: I never feel alone, which is beautiful. But yeah, I 380 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: think some of my meditation I listened to guided meditations, 381 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: but I also I like to tone my chakras and 382 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: so I do like a sound bath and um and 383 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: yeah those are like. The great thing about meditation for 384 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: me is that I thought that you had to be 385 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: completely silent, still with your eyes closed and your hands 386 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: like this. And you know, there's different types of meditation. 387 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: There's different as long as you are quieting your thoughts 388 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: and trying to just chill, then like then then it's good. Then, 389 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: Like you can meditate with your eyes open, you can 390 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: meditate while you're doing things. It's just people don't realize 391 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: how how easy it is and you don't have to 392 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: be perfect at it. And that was what kept me 393 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: away from meditating for so long, was trying to be 394 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: perfect at it. Yeah, thank you, thank you for simplifying 395 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: for everyone. I couldn't agree more. I when I when 396 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I learned how to meditate when I was eighteen, I 397 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: was introduced to three practice is breathwork, visualization and mantra 398 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: and sound, and it was so refreshing to realize that 399 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: there was breathwork for the body, there was visualization for 400 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: the mind, there was mantra for the soul and the 401 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: spirit and the energy. And to me, I was like, Wow, 402 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: there's there's a menu for meditation and you could you 403 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: could try which one worked for you, and you could 404 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: build it. And as you said, there is no perfect meditator, 405 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: and the practice of trying to be perfect is almost 406 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: as far away from meditations as there can be. So 407 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: I love that you're simplifying it for so many people 408 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: and making it natural. What's what's been one of your 409 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: favorite meditation experiences? If you had any that have really 410 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: maybe maybe you've gained a message or an insight, or 411 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 1: you've just been able to be really calm. Has there 412 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: been an experience that you could share with us. There's 413 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: been so many experiences that I could share with you. 414 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's having a realization about things that you 415 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: thought you would never figure out in your lifetime, Relationships 416 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: that you thought were completely over, and then all of 417 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: a sudden they pop into your mind during meditation and 418 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: you feel the need to reach out to them. So 419 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: you do, and all of a sudden you've rekindled a 420 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: relationship or you've repaired a relationship. That that stubbornness I 421 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: thought I was holding onto, you know, for good. It's 422 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: when I was able to release that stubbornness. And so 423 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like my intuition is when I meditate, 424 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: it just like raises its hand and it's like, hey, 425 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, like listen, listen to me. Here's a song, ideas, 426 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: reach out to this person, or or even sometimes weird 427 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: things happen where I don't reach out to that person, 428 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: but they reach out to me, you know. And it's 429 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: interesting how your intuition starts to work when you really 430 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: start to listen to it. Yes, yes, And that is 431 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: such a good point most of us, when we talk 432 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: about the word intuition, a lot of people say, well, Jay, 433 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: I don't hear any voices. And the truth is, we 434 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: don't hear voices because we've been ignoring it for so long. 435 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: And you're right that as soon as you start to 436 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: listen to it, it gets louder, it gets stronger, it 437 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: gets more powerful. That's that's such a great point that 438 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: as soon as you start listening even if it's the 439 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: tiniest bit of intuition, if you start listening to it, 440 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: that voice gets so much more stronger and powerful. And 441 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: I you're so right to me that in that meditation, 442 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: you're giving space for that voice. Yes, you are. You 443 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: You're giving You're putting that voice in an amphitheater, you 444 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You're giving that voice a huge 445 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: platform to reach out and say, hey, this is what's 446 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: on my mind. Your voice sounds very cute, though, saying 447 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: hey with with a little hand out that sounds like 448 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: that sounds like an adorable voice. It seems like an 449 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: emoji with a voice. Whereas yeah, whereas whereas you know 450 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: someone else might be like, I don't like the voice 451 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: in my head, but that's the noise. That's the noise. 452 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: The voice in our head should feel like a smiley 453 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: face EMERGI. That's like, please listen to me, please, yeah, please. 454 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: I hope anyone who's listening to this right now, if 455 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: you're not watching, you have to go back and look 456 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: at the video of of Dermi doing hey, because it's 457 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: adorable and and you have you have to see it 458 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: because now every time I hear my voice, my intuition. 459 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: I'm going to see that little Yeah. So I love that. 460 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: I love that you're laughing too, because one of the 461 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: things that's always been important to me is that meditation 462 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: and mindfulness and consciousness it can be fun and it 463 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: can be playful. Yes, and it doesn't have to be 464 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: this really like it's disciplined, but it's it's not this 465 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: artificial hardcore, you know, rough and like it. It can 466 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: be playful and fun. I could you share a bit 467 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: about that, because I see you as such a fun 468 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: loving person and even now we're both laughing about voices 469 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: in our head. But but tell me a bit about that. 470 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: Have you Have you allowed your playfulness to come through 471 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: more and your energy? Yes, I quieted my intense meditation 472 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: personal trainer voice that was in my head. You know, 473 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: like when you go to the gym and you have 474 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: a personal trainer or somebody that's like really pushing you, 475 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: and that just doesn't work for me. And that is 476 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: the voice that I had in my head every time 477 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: I went to meditate. It was stop opening your eyes, 478 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: stop thinking about this, stop thinking about that. And it 479 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: was just like to the point where three minutes would 480 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: go by and I'd be like, I'm already over this, 481 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And so I had to 482 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: really quiet that voice down. And when I started meditating, 483 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: especially outside, you know, there's gonna be noises, there's gonna 484 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: be animals, things like that, planes that fly over. And 485 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: if I felt myself wanting to open my eyes, I 486 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: just allowed myself to because I thought, what are you 487 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: going to gain from opening your eyes and just taking 488 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: a second to appreciate the sound that you're hearing. And 489 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: sometimes I had really beautiful insights. Sometimes I was like, Wow, 490 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: it's a big lane. But like other times, I had 491 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: beautiful moments where I thought. One time, for instance, I 492 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: was outside and there were all these bugs and I 493 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: was trying to meditate, and I thought to myself, what 494 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: do I do about the bugs? Right? Like, what can 495 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: I do? Because I'm just shooing them away? And then 496 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: I had this moment where I thought nobody was shoeing 497 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: bugs away at Woodstock when they were perfectly like content 498 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: and having the best time and that like in the wilderness. 499 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Basically they were hippies that like they learned to share 500 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 1: and coexist with the bugs that were there, And I 501 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: was like, wow, these little, tiny organisms are flying around me. 502 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: They're maybe just trying to say hello. They're just or 503 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: they're just living their lives, but like in my head, 504 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to say hi, and that makes it more 505 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: appealing and fun for me. And so I opened my 506 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: eyes and I just like let the bugs just kind 507 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: of fly around me. And if it was a bee, 508 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: it's a bee. If it stings you, it stings. I mean, 509 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm not allergic, so but you know, other people may 510 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: be different. But it's just about like shrinking that judgmental 511 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: voice that's saying keep your eyes closed, don't focus on anything, 512 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, It's it's about quieting that voice and really 513 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: just like learning to appreciate. Okay, why do I want 514 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: to open my eyes? What is it that I can 515 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: gain from this experience of opening my eyes and looking 516 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: at this little bug? Or sometimes I'll open my eyes 517 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: and I'll see a hummingbird, and hummingbirds to me signify 518 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: like my ancestors, and and so I think, oh, maybe 519 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: that's their way of saying hello to me today. And 520 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have seen that had I not opened my eyes. 521 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: That was an amazing description because you just you just 522 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: described how meditation is really a conversation, not a command. 523 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: It's not a command. You're not commanding yourself to do 524 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: this or do that. It's it's not like you have 525 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: a drill sergeant in your head. You actually want to 526 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: have a conversation and a dialogue to yes, understand and 527 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: uncover yourself. And I always think about that, that the 528 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: simplest form of meditation is having a conversation with yourself, 529 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: having time to meet yourself. And we always we would 530 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: never cancel an important meeting with someone else, but we 531 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: never even schedule one with ourselves exactly. And I always 532 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: I always used to overanalyze things, and I always used 533 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: to tell myself that was a negative trait that I had, 534 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: that I'm always overthinking things. But then when I started meditating, 535 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: I started to have those over analyzation conversations in my head. 536 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: And then I started thinking, Wow, I could go somewhere 537 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: with this, you know, like I could expand these thoughts. 538 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: And it kind of gave this like it turned my 539 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: brain into like a kitchen for all of them, the 540 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: like thought dinners and food for thoughts that I wanted 541 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: to have, you know, and I just started expanding. And 542 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: now the way that I think is just completely different. 543 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: And that's cool too. M. Yeah, no, that the way 544 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: you've just explained how we have to silence even that 545 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: you know that trainer voice, as you said, like a 546 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: personal trainer in the gym. Or it's so true, it's 547 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: so true because otherwise you just become subservient to this 548 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: other voice. Again, your expansive consciousness is being contained and limited, yes, 549 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: by this other yes, and you don't get experienced it anymore. 550 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: So I can agree with you more. You've you've you've 551 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: helped me massively refine that. And we as monks, we 552 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: would always talk about how you always saw the you 553 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: always saw the noise in your head just like a 554 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: little monkey running around, and and that kind of made 555 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: it playful, and so it was always the it was 556 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: always the monkey mind versus the monk mind, and so 557 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: the monkey was always playful. And sit and you notice it, 558 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: and you don't want to trap the monkey or hurt 559 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: it or anything. You just are entertained by just how 560 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: silly it can be. But you want to help organize 561 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: it a little and help it a little bit, but 562 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: you don't, you don't need to hurt it. And so yes, 563 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: I you've really helped me. I think my meditation is 564 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: going to be different tomorrow based on what you just said. 565 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 1: So I'm wow, Yeah, best compliment. I mean it, I 566 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: really mean it, I really do. I think. I think 567 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: you're so right. I think you're so right. We get 568 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: we get lost always in these We get always lost 569 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: in just judging ourselves. Just somehow we get even even 570 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: when we know we judge ourselves, we now judge ourselves 571 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: for judging ourselves. It's like, oh my god. Every day, 572 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: not every day, but you know, it is something where 573 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: I do have to catch myself sometimes daily where I look. 574 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes I look in the mirror and I and I 575 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: find something immediately wrong with what I see, and I 576 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: have to stop and say, okay, why did you why 577 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: did you go there with it? Why can't you look 578 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: at how beautiful your hair is today or whatever, or 579 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: why don't you think about a quality about yourself that 580 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with your appearance and then like 581 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: tell yourself how proud you are for gaining that quality. 582 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: And it's like it's just always kind of reminding ourselves 583 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: every day, and that way it gets easier over time, 584 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: so that I'm not looking and sometimes it's harder than others. 585 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it's just easier to go in that shame spiral, 586 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: you know, the shame spy role where you get onto 587 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: yourself for one thing, and then all of a sudden that, oh, well, 588 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: because I don't like my hair, that means that my 589 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: body is wrong, or because I'm not liking my body, 590 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, now I feel unlovable, and and it just 591 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: goes into that spiral and the quicker you can stop 592 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: that spiral from bottoming out, the quicker that you get 593 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: with that moment every day where it's like, now I 594 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: look in the mirror and if I see something I 595 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: don't like, I'm it's like a reflex. I just go, Okay, 596 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: what do we like? You know? And so you just 597 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta start to in a loving and compassionate way, 598 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: train your mind to remind yourself what you do love 599 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: about yourself. So powerful, I really hope everyone tomorrow morning 600 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: is going to practice what Dama just said. When you 601 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: look in the mirror tomorrow morning, I want you to 602 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: remember what Demi just said, because it's such an incredible 603 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: trait that we all have where we draw these huge 604 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: conclusions based on one tiny thing. So like you said, 605 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: we draw this conclusion I am unlovable based on one 606 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: thing we don't like about ourselves. Or it could be 607 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: as simple as your hair. It give me as tiny, Yeah, 608 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: it give me as tiny as a spot on your face, right, 609 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: and you turn that spot into I am never going 610 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: to feel attractive, and you just amplify it to these 611 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: great degrees and we all do it. And I love 612 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: what you said that that's how to approach it. That 613 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: when we look in the mirror, you have to you 614 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: have to nip it in the bud. You have to 615 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: catch it there and then and there, because otherwise it 616 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: just gets I was thinking about I was talking to 617 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: someone about this the other day. There was a small 618 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: crack in one of the floors in our home and 619 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I was saying, oh, I want to get it fixed today, 620 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: and someone was saying to me, they said, no, no, no no, 621 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter like it's it's gonna be like is before. 622 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: That's an issue, And I was like, that's my point. 623 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want the track to get 624 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get bigger and bigger and bigger. I 625 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: would rather mend it today. And I don't think that 626 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: just applies to flaws. I think it applies to our 627 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: lives and how we feel about ourselves and how we 628 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: talk to ourselves. It applies to relationships. You may think 629 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: you just had a tiny argument, but if you can 630 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: solve it now, you save yourself years of headaches. So 631 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: I love that you gave everyone a practical tool to 632 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: actually do that. Or another one is if you might 633 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: think that what you have to say is not super important, 634 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: but honor that voice inside of you so that when 635 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: you are in a relationship, you're immediately starting out with 636 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: this is who I am, these are my values, and 637 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: this is how I want to be respected, and that 638 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: way you like you said, you nip it in the bud. 639 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not about Sometimes it's just about speaking up too. Yes, yes, 640 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: you're right. And that will come back to what you 641 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: were saying earlier, the confidence of your intuition. If you 642 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: if you keep ignoring it and you say, oh, well 643 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: that's that's not important right now, Well that's not relevant 644 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: or that's insignificant. If you keep talking to yourself in 645 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: that way, that voice just gets quieter and quieter and quieter, 646 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: and now when you really need it, you can't hear it. Anymore. Yes, exactly, 647 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: So I think that's a beautiful full circle. Got back 648 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: to what you were saying earlier, Demia. You know, we've 649 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: talked a lot about and I love that we're talking 650 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: a lot about expanding consciousness because I think that that's 651 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: not just a noble aspiration. I do believe it's it's 652 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: a root thing. It's like going to the heart of 653 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: the issue. As you said that if we don't expand 654 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: our consciousness and as a whole, as as a world, 655 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: it's we can try and solve this one area or 656 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: this one area, but we're going to keep kind of 657 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: bashing heads to some degree. I wonder what are some 658 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: of the ways you think that people can expand their 659 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: own consciousness If they're listening and saying I want to 660 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: know how to do that, I'm open to that. Where 661 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: would they start? What are some of the things, What 662 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: are some of the books. I know that you've been 663 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: interviewing some phenomenal people on your podcast for d which 664 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: you're encouraging people to live through this fourth dimension. I 665 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: wonder have you had any conversations or people that you'd 666 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: love to introduce people to. I interviewed someone recently on 667 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: my podcast name Justin Baldoni, and that conversation with them 668 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: really opened my mind because just what they had to 669 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: say in relation to gender norms that are placed on 670 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: us at a young age, how we evolve as adults, 671 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: and how we tend to carry those things from our 672 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: childhood into our adult lives today. I thought that was 673 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: so interesting. And you know, he has a book called 674 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: Man Enough. A lot of the people that I'm having 675 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: conversations with, you know, you have a great book. And 676 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: I think reading is something that has helped expand my 677 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: consciousness a lot too. And it doesn't even have to 678 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: be about anything all that intense. It can just be 679 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: just reading is good for your mind. Journaling is something 680 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: that's really helped me because sometimes my thoughts race so 681 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: fast that that it's hard to I don't know, it's 682 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: good to just get it out and then I can 683 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: go back to it and look at it later. So yeah, reading, journaling, 684 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: and like I said, meditating, meditating is really important. But 685 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: find out what meditation works for you, because it is 686 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: different for everybody. Yeah, those are great great insights reading journaling, 687 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: of course meditation. As you said before, and we talked 688 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: about a length I can agree with you more. I 689 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: remember I was just speaking to a friend I was 690 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: I was reorganizing my bookshew, and he was saying, how 691 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: much have you been reading recently? And I said, I 692 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: remember a year in my life where I read a 693 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: book a day for a year, and you know, it 694 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: was it was an incredible year. And I was just 695 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: saying to him how much I miss it. That was 696 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: around I think that was around four or five years ago. 697 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: I did that, and I've been I've been reading. I've 698 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: been trying to read about a book a month at 699 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: the moment. But I've been really trying to find things 700 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: that I'm fascinated by. And it's not about I'm not 701 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: trying to make it about a numbers game. I'm not 702 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: saying that. So anyone who's listening or watching this isn't 703 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: a competition of how many books you've read. And that's 704 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: not what I'm emphasizing. What I'm emphasizing is what Demi 705 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: is saying is just to really expand your consciousness, you 706 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: need to let your consciousness connect dots in lots of 707 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: different areas. And so when I read, I don't just 708 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 1: try and read from one genre. I try and read 709 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: from lots of different genres and lots of different authors 710 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: and backgrounds, because then my consciousness has the ability to 711 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: connect dots that it finds interesting. And Demi, I remember 712 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: when we last were together, you were talking about your 713 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: fascination with UFOs and you were talking about your fascination 714 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: with extraterrestrials, and that's become a real thing for you now. 715 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: I think when we've met, it was something that you 716 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: were becoming passionate about or intrigued by. And I wanted 717 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: to know how you started to get fascinated with that, 718 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: because again, that would be considered something that's very different 719 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: from talking about gender, or talking about music, or talking 720 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: about mental health or talking about depression. And all of 721 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: a sudden, we're talking about UFOs. And I loved that 722 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: because that's what's fascinating about expanding our consciouness. So tell 723 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: me about tell us about how that world opened itself 724 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: up to you. I watched a movie called Close Encounters 725 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: of the Fifth Kind, and it really expanded my view 726 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: of meditation of how important it is for us to 727 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: shift our consciousness and and so I started. In this documentary, 728 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: they talk about this protocol where you can where you 729 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: meditate and then you play these sounds and then you 730 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: look up you do like a SkyWatch. And I tried 731 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: it a few times, nothing had really happened. And then 732 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: one night for my birthday, I was in Palm Springs 733 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: and I had five friends with me, and I said, 734 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: all right, I want to try to make contact. And 735 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: making contact isn't like you know, touching fingers with an et. 736 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: It's just like you you set an intention and then 737 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: something appears, and so if God willing, you know. And 738 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: so I'm sitting there and we had meditated for like 739 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: I told my friends, I said, hey, it's my birthday. 740 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: I know this isn't like super fun, but I want 741 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: to meditate. And then I want to go outside and 742 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: look up. They're like, yeah, down, whatever. So we all 743 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: start meditating and then we look up and I see 744 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: something in the sky that I can't explain that was 745 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: way high above me all of us. It was brighter 746 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: than any star in the sky, and it moved in 747 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: a way that that a plane wouldn't move. I mean 748 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: it made like a question mark in the sky. And 749 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: then it just kind of backed out. And I was like, 750 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: did everyone see that? My friends were like yeah, and 751 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: we were just like, oh my gosh, so it's real. 752 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: So so it's real. This this works and it's real. 753 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: And my mind was just blown. And I realized that 754 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: from going inward, we can connect to beings that are 755 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: so far beyond what we know of our universe. And 756 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: I think there's no there's no coincidence. Whenever I have 757 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: been meditating in my backyard and I look up, I 758 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: get that urge in my intuition to open my eyes, 759 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: and so I do, and I see something I've seen, 760 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: like I've seen a this sounds out there, but I've 761 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: seen a flying saucer in the daylight just right above, 762 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: like from my neighbor's house, not right above it. But 763 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: and my best friend was meditating with me too. We 764 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: both kind of had opened our eyes at the same time, 765 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: and she was like did you just And I was like, yeah, 766 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: did you? And so it just things like that that 767 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: just start to happen, and there you can't explain it, 768 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: but I think there's a tie. I think that these 769 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: beings from other planets or solar system, I don't know, 770 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: these beings want us to expand our consciousness, and I 771 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: think that they're rooting for us. And I think that 772 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: every time we start to meditate, we start to go 773 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: deep within. They can sense it and and hopefully, you know, 774 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: the rest of humanity catches onto that and we can 775 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: save our species. I love it. I love it. I remember, 776 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: I know, I remember reading studies on astronomy extraterrestrials, other 777 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: planets when when I was fascinated by this a bit earlier, 778 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: and and I remember reading a study by I obviously 779 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: was born and raised in London, so this was by 780 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: Her Majesty's astronomer and it was the astronomy team in England, 781 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: and they had found that he was just saying that 782 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: he didn't know, but he was saying it would be 783 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: ridiculous for me to not believe that there was life 784 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: on other planets and other solar systems. And that was 785 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: just categorically stated. Although whereas at school this wasn't really encouraged. 786 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: We didn't really get brought into recognizing that there were 787 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: other life forms. You know, you kind of believe that 788 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: there are lots of planets, but we're the only planet 789 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: with human life, and therefore we kind of think of 790 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: life as a very limited way. As your consciousness expands, 791 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: your your vision expands, your imagination, your experiences, what you know, 792 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: what has really you've resonated with you when it comes 793 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: to experiencing life or experiencing joy, What today would you 794 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: say brings you the most joy or brings you the 795 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: most a light or peace in your life today? What 796 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: brings me the most joyous spending time with people that 797 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: help me coregulate, So my friends, you know, my family. 798 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: I think that being in nature, whether it's going out 799 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: to the desert or going to Colorado and the mountains, 800 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: or you know whatever, it is, just getting away with 801 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 1: my friends and just really having time to recharge, you know, meditate, 802 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is that we want to do, and with 803 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 1: my pups, my dogs, And that's what really makes me joyful, 804 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: find happiness and recharge. App It's beautiful, Demi. I have 805 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: to ask you where in Colorado did you go? Because 806 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: I just went Crestone. Okay, I just went to Dunton 807 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: and it was stunning. So when you said that I 808 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: was literally there ten days ago, I was literally there 809 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: about ten days ago too. I went to Crestone, Colorado 810 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: for like a for a UFO seminar. I love that. 811 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: I love that I was there. I was there for 812 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: a wedding, so slightly different. I was there for a wedding, 813 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: but it was it was beautiful. I did not realize 814 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: that that was a UFO hot spot. Crestone is. Yeah, 815 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: Crestone is. Um, you should actually check it out, look 816 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: into it because there's a bunch of religions that find 817 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: Crestone a sacred spot. Well, and they even called it 818 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: the Bloodless Valley because it was so there was like 819 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: no bloodshed back when you know, pilgrims came in and 820 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: kind of took over. So yeah, or at least that's 821 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: what my understanding of it was. Wow, incredible, it sounds amazing. Well, Demi, 822 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: you've been so gracious and kind and generous with your time. 823 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: We end every On Purpose episode with a final five. 824 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: This is a fast five round, so every question has 825 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: to be answered in one word or one sentence at 826 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: a maximum, and so Demi Levado, these are your fast five. 827 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: The first question is what is the best advice that 828 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: you've ever received? The golden rule that you learn as 829 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: a kid. Just treat others the way you want to 830 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: be treated. Yeah, I think that's so important. You and 831 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: Russ had the same answer to that question, Just so 832 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, just throw it out there there. It is great, 833 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: which is great because it's such a it's such an 834 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: important rule. It's it's because you know you both agree. Okay. 835 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever received? 836 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: You should wear spanks with that. That was probably the 837 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: worst advice I've ever received, and that scarred me for years. 838 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh God, tell us about tell us about how simple 839 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: things from authoritative, opinionated people in our life can affect 840 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: us in that way. I want to expand on that. 841 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 1: I think that's such an interesting thing that often when 842 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: we say things to people, we don't know how much 843 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: power they hold, and if they end up living through it, 844 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: that it can have ramifications. Maybe just speak to that 845 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yes, Well, that experience I had had 846 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: just shortly after I had come out of treatment for 847 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: a neating disorder, and I thought that my stylist knew better. 848 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: At the time, this was over ten years ago. It 849 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: wasn't even the stylist, It was the stylist assistant and 850 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: they just said it like, oh, would you like spanks? 851 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: You should wear spanks with that? And it could have 852 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: been because the dress was silk and it was thin, 853 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: and or maybe it just wasn't flattering, But in my head, 854 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: I took that as you look bad, you need to 855 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: wear a body sculpting thing underneath. And I took that, 856 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: and I internalized it so much that I kind of spiraled. 857 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: It was I was supposed to do a performance on 858 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: like Dancing with the Stars or something, and and I 859 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: was so thrown off by that one common that I 860 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: just got so sad and so in my head, and 861 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: I started and I thought about it for years. We 862 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: don't realize the weight that our words hold when we 863 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: speak to other people because we don't know all of 864 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: their triggers. We don't know all of their life experiences. 865 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: We have to be careful when using words with others 866 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: that could potentially trigger people because you don't know what 867 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: they've been through. Well said, thank you so much for 868 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: expanding on that. Okay. Question number three is what is 869 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: the first thing you do when you wake up? And 870 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: what's the last thing you do before you go to bed. 871 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: The last thing that I do is I put on 872 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: my sleep meditation music as I sleep too. Yes, I 873 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: sleep to meditation music, so that the second that I 874 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: wake up, that's the first thing that I hear. And 875 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: it's the last thing I hear when I fall asleep beautiful, wonderful. Okay. 876 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: Question number four, what's the biggest lesson you've learned in 877 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: the last twelve months. In the last twelve months, so 878 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: Jesus I there's so many lessons. Tell us a few, Um, 879 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: don't get engaged after knowing someone for three months. Yeah, 880 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: that's a that's a big one. Um. Maybe also be 881 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,760 Speaker 1: super sure of who you are as a person before 882 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: you take a leap like that. You know you can't 883 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: you can't love anyone else until you really learn to 884 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: love yourself. And I had to kind of learn that 885 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: the hard wake. Every time I think I love myself, 886 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: I learned that I could love myself a little bit more. 887 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: And that was what happened to me last year, as 888 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: I realized, you know, there's a lot of room that 889 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: I could use to expand my love for myself. And 890 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: so I started working on that and I've been single 891 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: ever since. But I'm it's been some of the most 892 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: important months of my life trying to figure out who 893 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: I am today and who I want to be in 894 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: a relationship going forward. That's incredible and I love the 895 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: idea of learning to love ourselves because I think often 896 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: we try to jump to just love us, yes, and 897 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: it's about learning to love. It's it's the learning process 898 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: that is what we're all trying to skip and miss 899 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: and leap frog and hopefully just end up a love 900 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: and it's not. It's the learning part. And you're so 901 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: right that we can all learn to love ourselves a 902 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: little deeper. Fifth and final question is if you could 903 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, 904 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: what would it be. Well, my it would be it 905 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: would be that you have to try to meditate. Okay, 906 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: that's good because because I know not everyone is going 907 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: to be able to, but at least if you just 908 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: if you try just one minute a day, if you try, 909 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: that would be my law because I think that would 910 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: really shift things. That's awesome. Everyone, Thank Demi. Thank you 911 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time, your energy, your laugh, 912 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 1: your little hey voice in the head that will never forget. 913 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: I am so I am so grateful that we got 914 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 1: to spend this time together, that you shared so much 915 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: about meditation, about expanding our consciousness. I know this is 916 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: going to impact so many people, and I encourage you 917 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: all to tag Demi and I in your post to 918 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: tell us what you learned. I'd love to know what 919 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: you learned from them and what you took away from them, 920 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: and so please, please please make sure you let us know. 921 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 1: And thank you for listening to on Purpose. A big 922 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: thanks to you and you and your team, and we'll 923 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: see you again next week, Demi, thank you so so much. 924 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 1: Thank you,