WEBVTT - 1-833-STDWYTK 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.680 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:09.119 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:24.599 learn the stuff they don't want you to know. You've 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.360 reached stuff we don't want you to know. You can 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:34.840 turn back now or leave a message after the beat beeed. Uh, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.560 I guess Hey, my name is Matt. I'm on the show. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.519 I'm not really sure why I'm leaving this voice message, 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.400 but I just want you guys to know. I really 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.320 like the other two people on the show a lot um. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.320 The one who's talking right now is not that great, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.680 but you know, overall the show I love to listen, Matt, 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.760 I disagree with you entirely. Uh As Noah, one of 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.240 the guys you just mentioned, you're the You're the greatest 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.880 one of the bunch. Wait, how did you get on 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.800 this voicemail? It's a party line. This whole episode is 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:07.319 one long voicemail. Uh. They called me Ben. We're joined 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.480 with our super producer Paul Decon. Most importantly, you are 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:15.480 still you. You are here that makes this stuff they 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.760 don't want you to know. On the party line episode right, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.560 and you've heard us talk longtime listeners about our call 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.320 in line on previous episodes, but we've never actually played 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.600 any of the voicemails that we have received until that 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.680 is today and in the weird meta setup that we 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.880 just created. Fair this is one of the first voicemails 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.160 you're hearing uh to to you from us. I imagine 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.119 in fact, when we first started the number peek behind 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.840 the curtain here, we were originally concerned that we might 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.480 not get that many of your fellow listeners involved. So 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.880 just imagine our surprise recently when we checked this and 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.920 discovered we had well over a hundred voicemails and Matt, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.400 huge thank you to you for assembling these all in 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:09.320 one place, listening through to everyone and giving some some 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.000 at times hilarious descriptions. Have a file name. Well, there 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.560 are some hilarious people that call in and some gosh, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.079 some people that have knowledge that I just can't understand, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.079 the unfathomable knowledge They've got personal experience and a lot 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.000 of the things we've discussed before. Other people are just 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.440 really really sweet. But there is and there are a 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.680 few creeps there. At least one they ran the gamut. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.520 I think it's fair to say, but somebody I just 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.480 have to give a shout out to Johnny Planet, who 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.600 if you go through. I don't know if he's included 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.240 in this episode. I don't think he is, um, but 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:51.280 Johnny Planet has called in at least twelve times. I 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.480 want to say the twelve might be overshooting a little 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.960 bit um, but man, he just really really has some 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.200 cool and interesting experience. Is throughout the worlds of psychedelic 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.680 drugs at a certain time in his life, other substances 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.799 at a time in his life, and lots and loss 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.240 of surfing. So it was a bit of a psychoknot Yeah, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.440 he's a fascinating dude, Johnny Planet JP. That name is 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.520 up there with Dr buzz Rendezvous for sure. For sure, 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.160 I feel like they should hang out a where with 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.280 the Doctor Rendezvous. Dr buzz Rendezvous. Doctor Rendezvous was the 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.440 nickname for buzz Aldrin. It was a whole thing about this. Yeah. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.000 Oh yeah, buzz like buzz Aldrin from the from the 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:35.400 discussion we had about buzz Aldrin. Yeah, from the earlier episode. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.560 Oh I learned. I don't want to derailist too much, 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.200 but I learned a cool buzz Aldrin fact just while 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.840 we're here. Do you know how much extra he got 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.320 paid to travel to the Moon as in like expenses 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.720 or some kind of you saw this too, right, Yeah, 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.680 he made a grand total of an extra thirty three 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.880 dollars and thirty one sets on top of his regular pay, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.320 and it was all in freeze dried ice cream. Sure, yeah, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.960 freeze dried freeze dried ice cream and Moon dollars, which, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.960 unfortunately for Doctor Rendezvous turn out not to be a 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.600 Earth currency, but they are delicious as they are made 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.760 of Swiss cheese. Yes, yes, these are the facts behind 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:21.240 moon dollars, and the fact behind this show is that 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.760 we want to thank everyone who has called in so far. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.760 In a surprising relief to our super producer Paul, we 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:33.240 have collectively decided not to play every single one of 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.080 the one plus messages in today's episode. However, we are 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.680 going to play some of the messages, ones that inspired us, 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.160 intrigued us, gave us a chuckle, maybe a shiver, and 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.440 will be surprising each other a little bit along the 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.640 way here. So, if you've left us a message, scoot 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.880 to the edge of your seat you might just be 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.240 on the air with us today. If you have not, however, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.960 left us a message, don't delay. Drop us a line 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.240 we do listen to which one you can take a 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.560 cue from your fellow conspiracy realist and reach us directly 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:09.280 at one eight three three T d w y t K. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.480 You guys always do that, and I never can join you. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.680 You can join anytime I feel left out. Again, we 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.120 have to point this out. Do not call one eight 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.480 hundred s T d w y t K. Was that one? 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.359 What nine? Well, if you call that, you apparently, according 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.400 to this caller, you get this. Hi, this is Christine 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.800 calling from West Virginia. Did you know that if you 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.400 dial one eight hundred eight three three seven eight three five, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.840 do you get an offer for a Caribbean crewse I 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.320 just thought you might want to know that by yeah, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:52.920 conspiracy cruise. Maybe that is a real thing, the conspiracy cruise. Yeah, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.880 we had an offer to go on in a while back. 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.760 But honestly that number could be fishing of some sort. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.640 So don't don't call that number and give anyone any information. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.039 We are not affiliated with that. We are one eight 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:08.120 three three seven eight three. But information is power, right, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.480 that's right. So no word yet on what the nine 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.080 number leads to. If you are filling adventuress, that's the 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.200 real party. Line. Give it a shot, but don't be 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:23.200 very hesitant to give your credit card information ever over 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.400 the phone. So we found so many cool voicemails. Matt, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:32.720 since you took the backbreaking time, I'm imagining to set 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.360 all these up. Do you do you want to do 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.719 the honors and kick it off absolutely. Our first message 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:42.560 comes to us from Michael. Gentlemen, my name is Michael. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.719 I am from Sydney, Australia. I'm a big fan of 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.440 the show. I have something that you might find interesting 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.720 to do some research into. It's a little place in 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:57.039 Australia called Pine Gap. It is actually the property of 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.599 the United States, is one of the and I of States, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.000 the largest c I A listing huss in the world. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.159 And there's always been a rumor that an Australian Prime 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:15.720 minister was brought down for thinking about removing Pine Gap 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.760 from Australia. Might be worthwhile you guys taking a look 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.800 at it, and it would be great to hear that 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:27.600 as a show. Well. Well, well, Michael keeping an eye 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:32.960 on the watchers, are you? Yeah? We really appreciate this 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.960 one because it is absolutely correct and it's something maybe 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.160 a lot of folks here in the US don't know. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.000 Pine Gap is a genuine thing. In fact, there's a 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:48.080 little bit of news regarding Pine Gap. There is a 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.760 spy thriller about the base or set in the base, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.680 that is coming out very soon. I'm not sure when 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.040 it's going to reach the States. Oh my gosh, what 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.840 is it? An Australian production. Yeah, it's called Pine Gap. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.400 That's perfect, Okay, So let's get into what this is. Yeah, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.640 so what is it's like? It looks from the look 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.440 of it, it looks like Epcot Center, a bunch of giant, 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:16.200 kind of hexagonal golf ball looking things, just like the networks, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:21.560 the other Five Eyes networks in the UK alities and 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.720 what I think it's code named Project Rainfall. You haven't 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.080 called that there? Well, that was part of the Snowden revelations, 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.280 that the Rainfall name there and everything. But it's officially 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.439 called the Joint Defense Facility Pine Gap or the j 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.439 d FPG. And it has a really weird town next 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.480 to it, right, Alice Springs is a small town close 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.120 to the base, and a ton of experts who work 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:53.080 at Pine Gap live there, at least I think as 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.040 a two thousand and sixteen According to the New York 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:01.280 times at least nine of those residents were Americans. Yeah, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.040 so it's kind of got this oak Ridge vibe or 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.600 the what was the name of that town that we 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.720 encountered when we were in the like the zone of 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.880 radio like lack of complete lack of radio frequencies, radio 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.920 waves of any kind. Yeah, I think it's just called 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:22.680 the zone of silence right now, the National Radio Quiet Zone. Yeah, 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.360 Zone of Silence sounds much more sinister, but yeah, very similar, right, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.040 And what do they do from from this this listening station? 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.760 They also not only do they monitor incoming um surveillance, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:40.199 they also control spy satellites, right, yeah, Yeah, the place 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.679 is fascinating. The facility can you might even go to 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.800 the history of the facility. So in nineteen sixty six, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.160 there was this idea that there needs to be a 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.360 some kind of space research facility that's going to be 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.480 used by multiple people. So the Australian government as well 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.839 as the United States government, and because of some of 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:04.079 the locations in Australia that are somewhat isolated, they chose 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.720 this area in Pine Gap and then in nineteen seventy 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.480 they started like operating this big facility and it's grown 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.960 over the years. And uh, and like you're saying, well, 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.520 it's usage has kind of changed over the years, but 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.960 it's always had some kind of control by the c 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.520 i A, the n s A National Security Agency, and 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.560 the National Reconnaissance Office that's the n r O, and 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.400 it's officially part of the that echelon program that we've 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.040 talked about before in the past. Yeah, and it makes 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:40.760 you wonder what you would have to do bureaucratically speaking, 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:45.160 to be able to visit the base in person. Yeah, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.880 the installation, I should say, or at least get an 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.240 understanding of what's being collected. Well, a big thing that's 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:55.560 collected is something called geolocational intelligence, which I believe has 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.600 to do with coordinating air strikes and helping to pinpoint 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:05.000 with great precision locations and triangulating data so that you 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.679 can actually strike with a very high level of accuracy. Also, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.960 on a lighter, more inspiring note, this same technology can 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.480 be used to find down to planes theoretically because it 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:21.000 is so precise. Well, that's nice. That's at least one. Um, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.800 So let's just we're not gonna get too deep into 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:28.800 this right now, because I think this is probably everything. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.480 I agreed I'm so glad you said that. We've we've 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.839 talked about men with Hill before in England, which is 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.719 another facility such as this, and just to get in 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:42.199 this really quickly. According to the intercept, there are two 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.880 primary missions for this this command post, at least in 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.000 the recent years, and it's crazy. One is called M 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.319 seven six and UH and that's the whole spy satellites 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:58.480 thing where it's it's actually uh providing continuous coverage of 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.439 the majority of the Eurasian in mass in Africa, which 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:07.320 is you know a thing looking at continuous coverages in 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.040 twenty four our surveillance. Yeah. Yeah, it's unlimited data. It's 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:17.640 exactly unlimited. It don't stop. Then this was later upgraded again, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.840 according to the intercept, um as part of the second mission, 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.360 which is M eight three hundred it's probably M A 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.520 d U and it involved for satellite a for satellite 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.679 constellation that covered the former Soviet Union, China, South Asia, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.720 East Asia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and territories in 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.240 the Atlantic Ocean. All the hits, all the good stuff, 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.480 all the good ones. Wow, that's a lot of stuff. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:50.000 That's also Dennis Reynolds quote. So we would yeah, We 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.120 would absolutely love to do an episode on this. Maybe 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.600 we can do it as part of a live show 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.520 in Australia one day, right, or maybe in New York 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:05.640 and Boston and Phil. Yes, yes, yes, that's true. So 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.320 let's let's hold that and thank you Michael for taking 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:13.200 the time to call. Uh. We have another call, I 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.760 think and this is one that you found right now. Well, yes, 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.040 Bennett is indeed, let's roll the tape. Hey guys, it's 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.320 the least hurt. Just listen to the show. Thank you 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.200 so much for the shout out. UM a big fan. UM. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.040 I wanted to follow up on one of the all 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.760 of Us projects posts UM that I posted the Facebook group, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.840 but on twenty three and Me and the possibility of 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.760 geno and targeted ads that y'all mentioned in an earlier 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:38.800 podcast of this week. I believe so in Mojitski started 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.400 twenty three and Me and two thousand and six and 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.040 two thousand and seven, Modjitski and Google founder co founder 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:49.839 Sergei Brynn got married. However, that same year, in two 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.720 thousand seven, Google invested three point seven million dollars in 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.520 twenty three and Me. So my big question is without 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.760 you know, trying to be care not to slander. Is 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.080 what is the possibility that these two have had a 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.880 greater plot between the two companies from three and these 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.760 conception because you know people that I generally know is 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.400 that people usually know each other for at least one 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.680 year before they get married. UM, So two thousand six, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.840 the company started, two thousand seven, they get married two 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.640 thousand seven. Google invests you want to talk about data 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.960 and UM targeted ads? I mean, what a better partner 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.560 except for baby Facebook up until recently, UM to pair 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.840 up with. So let me know what y'all think. Thanks 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.160 so much, guys. By Yeah, this has been a hot 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.240 topic for us lately, I think in a couple of 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.480 different directions, because we've done stuff on targeted ads. We've 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.160 done stuff on the Golden State killer for example. And 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:49.320 how this these DNA databases that are being created kind 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.720 of without the full knowledge of the participants, right. And 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.160 I think I've said before that as part of another 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.240 show I worked on, I spit in one of those vials, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.640 not for twenty three and me, but for Ancestry and 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.240 of only I just kind of started realizing the ramifications 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.080 of what I might have done UM in terms of like, 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.480 not that I have anything to hide, but what if 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.080 what if one day my SPIT ends up in a 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.880 database and there's some connection to a pre existing condition 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.640 or a family um genetic marker that might lead me 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.080 to be declined from being ensured. I mean, these are 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.120 like new territories that are as a result of this technology. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.120 And then the way people are just giving it away, 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.400 and what twenty three and me is doing with the information, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.920 which is what uh yeah, they are obsessively hoarding it. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.200 They're also sharing it with law enforcement agencies. We got 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.200 a lot of feedback on this when we did the 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.120 update on the Golden State killer. But we should also 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.400 emphasize this. You don't have to join twenty three and me. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.240 You just have to be related to someone who got 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.320 arrested or was ever in the military. And we say 0:15:54.360 --> 0:16:00.400 related even distantly. It works. And the concern is that 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.240 that there are not very good laws on how this 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.120 information is used and how much you were allowed to 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:12.400 know about how it's being used. Right, So, the scary 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.600 and most plausible examples so far is the insurance, the 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.400 privatized insurance thing that that you had just been alluding to. Right, 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:26.800 the idea that your children before they're born could be 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.800 treated as if they have a pre existing condition due 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.920 to a medical test that they did not consent to. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.160 And that is not even what we're talking about. We're 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:39.600 talking more about the relationship between and Wajiski and Sergey 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.680 Brand of Google and would just keep being the CEO 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:47.000 and founder of twenty three and me um both super young, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.400 super rich, super influential people in the tech world. Um. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.000 As we know, Google has its hands in everything from 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.520 like mapping satellites to you know, committing every book on 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.960 the plan it to a digital document of some kind, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.080 to obviously first and foremost revolutionizing search, and all of 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:11.120 that is for the purposes in some former fashion of 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.840 getting people's behavior and being able to track the way 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.919 people behave and use that to help sell ads and 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:22.960 ultimately to predict behavior even further. Right, Yeah, exactly, So 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.320 what a Matt, What a match made in heaven this 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.600 relationship between these two young star cross lovers. And I 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.400 thought our callers point about how you know, I mean 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:37.320 not to editorialize and insert ulterior motives in the situation, 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.760 but it is a pretty interesting marriage of convenience in 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.560 terms of the synergy between the two types of tech 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.880 that those companies provide, right, yeah, and they The other 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.600 aspect of this that might interest in people is that 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:57.680 searchy and and divorced in I believe that's right, that's right, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.879 that's right. And and but the investment that we talked about, 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.480 that happened pretty quickly as well, pretty subsequently after the marriage. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.040 And I don't know, obviously you can invest in someone's 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:12.119 company without marrying them, but uh, it's weird. It's a 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.719 weird confluence, you know what I mean, Whether or not 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.239 you think there's a conspiracy or something shady going on, 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.359 the timing is very strange. And then I know you 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.280 have feelings about this stuff. I can see you kind of. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:23.959 I can see the gears turning there with you. I'm 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.040 wondering what you think about this? Well. I have two feelings. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:31.920 The first is that influential, powerful, rich people tend to 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.240 hang out with each other. So I can see how 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.720 perhaps these people, you know, an inspiring CEO of someone 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.520 who's going to create a company and do this thing, 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.040 hanging out with you know, somebody at Google. They hit 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.720 it off. I can imagine how their relationship came about 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.920 without conspiring to you know, fund of this company or 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.200 something in partnering and all that in the same vein 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:58.760 my my thoughts go to what could Google possibly use 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.320 all of this stuff for out side of the marketing 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:06.240 and advertising sphere, Like when you're when you're creating such 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:13.919 powerful algorithms and artificial not necessarily intelligences, but versions of 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:18.479 artificial intelligence like pre intelligence. Um, what do you do 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:22.840 with all that DNA information? Oh? Well, it depends on 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.159 what you could make the world a better place. I 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.280 think you could too if you look at you know, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.080 health health wise, like how do we fix certain things 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.920 and issues with DNA? But you could also just catalog 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.640 like what is a human and patented? Yeah, you could 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.840 patent that. A friend of mine who was just visiting 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.760 with New York over the weekend pointed something out to 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.280 me I thought was really interesting. Um, the idea that 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:51.280 mainly what we use AI for today is pattern recognition 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:56.040 and like digging through insane amounts of data sets. So 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.359 you know, who's better that pattern recognition than Google with 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.600 like the whole dream thing and the way they can 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.960 pull data out of this neural network or whatever, because 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.320 people are feeding into the system constantly and it's like, 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.800 you know, like our caller was saying, what better relationship 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.720 could there have been than maybe at one point Facebook? 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.800 But now Facebook is sort of tanking, and I think 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.080 people are being much more cautious about what they feed 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.479 into Facebook now. I think of some people are. But Google, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.439 you're just just like you're in it, man, Like if 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.760 you've got Gmail, they're reading your emails and you know 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:31.840 it and you don't even care. Or if you know 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:35.120 someone who has Gmail on their phone and they hang 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.159 out with you and you talk to them. The microphone 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:42.400 part is true. They're collecting massive amounts of data. There 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.880 was something interesting on the twenty three and me website too. 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.560 In their defense, they say, genetic information that you share 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.359 with others could be used against your interest. You should 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:56.800 be careful about sharing your genetic information with others. I 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.640 think they're missing the fact that they are the others well, 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.639 and it is the interests like the interest of humankind 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.520 against the interesting human kind, because they're the robots can 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.560 figure out how to annihilate us even faster. But is 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.160 it also inevitable that this sort of information would be 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:20.960 cataloged and categorized stop. I think it's inevitable. But and 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:26.400 I'm scared, but well, that is up to the future 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.639 to decide, you know what. Another thing I found out 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.080 about having this conversation with my my my buddy matt 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.600 Um is about a book that I'm really excited to 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:35.960 you that I have not read yet. It's called The 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.639 Inevitable Understanding the Twelve Technological Forces that will Shape Our 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.480 Future by a guy named Kevin Kelly, who I believe 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.280 is the founder of Wired dot com, and he is 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:48.639 actually where this article twenty three and me goes global 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.560 and it's data mining efforts that I'm pulling some of 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:54.560 this info from is from. And this book, from the 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:58.200 sound of it, is a much more What's I'm looking 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.600 for cautiously opt mystic view of the way a I 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.199 will affect our lives in the future. It's more like 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.800 things like that that idea that everything we do will 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:11.119 one day be a subscription, whether it's our housing situation, 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:15.040 our clothes, are dishes, like everything in some form is 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.680 going to be a subscription base and that's not necessarily 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.959 a bad thing. And also one of his theories is 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.040 that AI is not going to be about a one 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:26.880 stop shop artificial intelligence sensient creature. It's just gonna be 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.160 better machines that are more specialized and suited to doing 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:33.800 one particular thing really well. So I kind of that, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.399 I don't I like that idea. Just just trying to 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:40.640 temper the gloom here a little, right, Yeah, And that's 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.679 what a lot of experts agree will be the case, 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:48.800 rather than some overarching I in the sky Skynet thing. 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:52.520 There's one thing that predicts weather patterns, there's another thing 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.399 that makes sure the food you want is ordered on time, 0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:00.280 you know. And speaking of inevitable, it's to I'm for 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.720 in a massive spoiler alert, a break for a word 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:13.600 from our sponsors, and we're back, folks, fellow conspiracy realists 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.320 and skeptics alike. I don't want it to go unmentioned 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.080 or unnoticed here that our colleague NOL has selflessly been 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.919 playing the clips that you're hearing here, So thank you 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:28.720 for going the extra mile, Nol. We have one here 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.240 that I thought it was pretty funny. I don't know 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.320 if you guys had a chance to listen to it yet, 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.080 but it led me to a weird thing that will 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.640 end up digging into. Hey guys, my name is Amanda. 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.480 I'm a longtime fan and I was just listening to 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.680 your episode on the Kennedy Curse. UM at the top, 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.800 I was just hearing a lot up after I'm seeing 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:54.119 thrown around. UM, I figured I could contribute. I am 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.560 born and raised just on the very upcurt of um 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.480 soft and proper, And while I worked very very hard 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:06.000 to sort of mask my accent in a way. UM, 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.760 I do occasionally get a person who will ask me, 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.160 you know, can you say Harks the car and Harvard Yard, 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.679 And I'm going to give you the monologue that I 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.920