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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode one thirty three of The Bobby Cast

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Speaker 1: with Cassie Ashton. Good, Yeah, I'm great. Let's play a

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Speaker 1: little bit of Cassie Ashton so people can hear Cassy

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Speaker 1: still considered a new artist. Here. This is Taxidermy, keep

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Speaker 1: Me hanging On, and this is California, Missouri. I was

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Speaker 1: all in a hood and if I got passed along,

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Speaker 1: I could get a hit start on anything. So how

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Speaker 1: do we meet? I guess we met, Well, we really

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Speaker 1: met because I was like, hey, I have a friend

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Speaker 1: that I kind of can confide in and we talk

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Speaker 1: about music, and I say, hey, I look for artists.

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Speaker 1: And then throughout the year in my class and it starts,

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Speaker 1: but it always hangs around for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: We look for artists to kind of blow up. And

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Speaker 1: a couple of from this year have been Morgan Evans

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Speaker 1: got a top ten song, Jimmy Allen just got on

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Speaker 1: the verge. And so we always look to the class

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Speaker 1: of to promote things. And I was looking for new

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Speaker 1: artists and so what who do you know? He goes, well,

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Speaker 1: her music is not out yet. And I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't take new music that doesn't exist. He goes, I said,

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Speaker 1: I think you should really listen to her. I said,

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Speaker 1: all right, And so they send me. It was like

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Speaker 1: four or five of your songs and I heard them

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Speaker 1: and I was like, man, like, she's really good and

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Speaker 1: like soul full, and like, I don't I didn't get

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Speaker 1: the whole thing yet. I just was hearing it and uh.

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Speaker 1: And then it turns out we had actually worked out

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Speaker 1: in the same gym. I just didn't know that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how. That's how we met. Was somebody going, hey,

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Speaker 1: that thinks she's really good, and I went, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: I need to send that guy a gift. Best kid.

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Speaker 1: You don't even know who it is. I think someone

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Speaker 1: told me is Tom Lord. I would not confirm nor deny,

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Speaker 1: but that's how we met. And I'm such a fan,

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Speaker 1: such a fan of just your your kind of attitude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I really appreciate that. I don't just I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan of your attitude too. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that is, but with you, you kind of go like,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you're in a room, oh thanks, when

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Speaker 1: you enter a room, all k O, you know, freaking

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Speaker 1: Cassie Easier. I guess it depends on what room I

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Speaker 1: walk into. Who's in there? Ye, well, and then you

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Speaker 1: play the rhymean show for us, which is awesome. I

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Speaker 1: love Taxi Army that song. I love it too. I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to think back a history of us. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did my first ever radio interview. I was on

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Speaker 1: the with you that yeah, and it got like played

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Speaker 1: later than what we did it and there were people like, well,

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Speaker 1: she did dish the other day, and you're like, hey, listen, asshole,

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Speaker 1: this was actually her first one. So, like, you don't know,

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Speaker 1: just scroll scroll on Facebook a little longer. How has

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Speaker 1: the social media been to you? I love Instagram. I

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Speaker 1: love Instagram. I love the Explore page. I follow mostly

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Speaker 1: like things that inspire me so that my feeds stays

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Speaker 1: artistic and positive. And I like Twitter because people are

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Speaker 1: sarcastic assholes and that's funny. You know, you find people

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Speaker 1: that you don't know, but you're like, you respond to

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Speaker 1: things hilarious. And then as far as Facebook is concerned,

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Speaker 1: like if anybody else wants to take over that for me,

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Speaker 1: like cool, I don't look at our show's Facebook page. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people on Facebook. I made the mistake. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: new and you see thirty comments and you're like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I really want to see you know, the nice the

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Speaker 1: nice things on here, you know, so I can reach

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Speaker 1: out to people. No, don't don't do that. Don't read

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Speaker 1: the comments. Yeah, people kind of feel like everything's equal

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Speaker 1: and they want to actually put the hammer down on you.

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Speaker 1: They don't think that you. I'm convinced they don't think

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Speaker 1: you see it like they are just talking into the abyss.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. I'm convinced that they don't think

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Speaker 1: you're real. Yeah, like you're a machine ort and honest

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Speaker 1: to god, I'm a human being and when I read

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Speaker 1: stuff as as desensitized as I can get, it still

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Speaker 1: goes that hurts a little bit. Yeah, I mean there

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Speaker 1: were things on the first like two times and the

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Speaker 1: only two times I read the comments on Facebook, they

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Speaker 1: were mean, Like not just critical. That's cool, criticals, fine,

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Speaker 1: everybody's got opinion, but like you had to go down

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Speaker 1: in yourself and really pull like the mean out. Like

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Speaker 1: there was this one comment I got tagged in a

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Speaker 1: picture from Stagecoach and stage Coach it was like ninete

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Speaker 1: degrees outside, right I'm wearing in California. Yeah, I'm wearing

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Speaker 1: pretty much sports braw and long biker shorts like not

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Speaker 1: you know, they're girls there that were like pasties in

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Speaker 1: American flag swimsuit bottoms. And there was someone on the

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Speaker 1: comments that was like, her boobs are as fake as

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Speaker 1: her music, And there were people like saying that they

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Speaker 1: wanted to they should throw dollar bills at me because

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Speaker 1: I look like insert in appropriate words the boobs and

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Speaker 1: mused the fake boobs and fake music. That's a double

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Speaker 1: shot in one sentence, it's actually true because my boobs

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Speaker 1: aren't fake and neither is my music. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for the I'm convinced that I'm sad that people don't

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Speaker 1: have a voice in general. They feel they don't have

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Speaker 1: a voice, so they have to use their voice to

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Speaker 1: make as much of an impact on Facebook as possible,

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Speaker 1: and it turns out that you only get the most

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Speaker 1: response when you're negative. It's a culture thing that I'm

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Speaker 1: not proud that we have. UM. But all that aside,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I like what you do because it's different.

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Speaker 1: I think you can do anything different. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: so many detractors anything. When I came to town, it

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Speaker 1: was three years before I was even okay to associate

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Speaker 1: with because I was so different. But that's okay because

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Speaker 1: now it's you know, I've I've kind of carved out

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Speaker 1: my place and this is me and yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: always wonder because here you are, now you're you're a

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Speaker 1: very new artist. It was one of the process of

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Speaker 1: when you moved to town, what steps do you take

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Speaker 1: in order to be seen? And then like, how does

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Speaker 1: a record deal actually happen for someone who moves to

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Speaker 1: town because I'm assuming when you moved here you didn't

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Speaker 1: have a contact at a record label and you it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: just come and we'll sign you up. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know how to like, I didn't even know what SoundCloud was.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how did anything. Like I came to

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Speaker 1: town because I went to Belmonte. I moved here for college,

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Speaker 1: and I knew I could sing, and then I was

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Speaker 1: really good on stage and I was live. What have

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Speaker 1: that affirmation? I've literally been raised on stage, Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: beauty pageants, dance competitions, whether it was a Gooseneck trailer

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Speaker 1: at the fair to like a big theater, and I

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Speaker 1: did theater growing up, and so stage is comfortable for

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Speaker 1: me and like I am more shy in a room

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Speaker 1: of five people than like a stage with five thousand people. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's that's my place. So I knew that, Like, as

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Speaker 1: far as I was concerned, no one at school was

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Speaker 1: going to beat me in that arena, No pun intended.

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Speaker 1: That's what you were naturally good at, and you worked

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Speaker 1: harder at it because you saw some of the fruits. Yeah, wow, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're good. You can sing, you're on stage, but

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Speaker 1: you and your intelity studying though, I got a Bachelor

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Speaker 1: of Music, so commercial voice, so you came and studied singing.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what that class is, Like, is it so

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Speaker 1: competitive of a class? You would think so, But I think,

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned about, half of my graduating

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Speaker 1: class worked and then the other half they came from

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Speaker 1: a small pond where they were the biggest fish, and

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Speaker 1: they were like, look, all I have to do is

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Speaker 1: That's all I have to do. And You're like, there

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Speaker 1: wasn't that here. You And people really get caught up

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Speaker 1: in the Belmont bubble, like they get really concerned about

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Speaker 1: like acapella and like being really good at theory and

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Speaker 1: oral skills, and I'm like, but you don't know who

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Speaker 1: if you don't come up at that and you don't

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Speaker 1: kind of get your head out into the real world,

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Speaker 1: look at the marketplace and look at who you actually are,

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Speaker 1: and like this degree is going to do nothing for you.

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Speaker 1: So you're in school and you're studying vocal and you go, okay,

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Speaker 1: well want to finish. I'm just gonna stay and sing.

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Speaker 1: And are you singing other places while you're in college?

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Speaker 1: Are you playing in the little rooms? Um? I wasn't really.

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Speaker 1: I worked at a karaoke bar at the time in

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Speaker 1: Printer's Alley called Lonnie's. I was the karaoke girl, like

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Speaker 1: karaoke DJ every Friday. If you my old place before

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Speaker 1: this one was literally looking down on Printer's Alley. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know where you're talking about, those right there on church.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I always felt bad for those people. It

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Speaker 1: was good thing. I toured every Friday and Saturday and

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Speaker 1: that's what it was. It was crazy that down there

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Speaker 1: you were the karaoke girl. Yeah, so I would I

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Speaker 1: would put in like everyone's requests, and then I would

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Speaker 1: money and I bet you would right like people are like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god. It was even the karaoke singers are

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Speaker 1: good in this town, right, because you just like the

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Speaker 1: best part about doing that job is you just actually

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Speaker 1: make fun of people and they laugh with you, like

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, I've got a bad and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get off the stage. How was the money good?

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Speaker 1: It was really was it cash? So it's just just cash.

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Speaker 1: My accountant aunt wanted to kill me. She's like one

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Speaker 1: of my Yeah, when I would wait tables and they

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Speaker 1: would give you cash, it's just cash. Yeah, You're like okay,

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Speaker 1: so great depositives or in the shoebox in my aus.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. So I was doing those kind of shows,

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Speaker 1: and I honestly after college, I wanted to get an

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Speaker 1: internship my senior year of college because I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: should just work for a publisher. Then maybe you know

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Speaker 1: that will open doors and so you're not playing out

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Speaker 1: as an artist sough at this point, you're just making

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Speaker 1: money singing, but you're doing it at karaoke bar and

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Speaker 1: just pay rent and eat and go to school. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I knew, like if I got distracted away from

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Speaker 1: school for a second, my grandma would kick my ass

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Speaker 1: because she's the reason I went to college. Because I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to go, she was like, you have to,

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Speaker 1: and so yeah, I was like, if I don't focus

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Speaker 1: on school, I won't finish. So you stayed and finished

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Speaker 1: school even though you didn't want. I mean that's all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's cool. Thanks if you did for your grandma especially. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then like almost the my first semester of senior

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Speaker 1: year rolls around, my best friend we're writing and she's

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Speaker 1: like you should. Are you going to try out for

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Speaker 1: Country Showcase? Because Belmont has these four large showcases a

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Speaker 1: year that are like in the arena, there's um a country,

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Speaker 1: I Rock, urban pop, and a Christian and then the

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Speaker 1: winner for me, each goes the best the best, and

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Speaker 1: like a bunch of industry people come out and like

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Speaker 1: you get all this cool stuff and you have to

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Speaker 1: have a manager, and like it's real life. So the

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Speaker 1: kids who were in audio degrees have to do all

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Speaker 1: the audio and production so on and so forth, and

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Speaker 1: bank accounts up in my name. Oh my gosh, yikes.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just now starting to deal with like phony

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Speaker 1: calls and I call my business manager and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is what happened. And now I'm getting good at

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Speaker 1: they look and be like, yo, she's a twenty four

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Speaker 1: what about the blue check I have a blue check mark.

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Speaker 1: You have a blue check mark. Yes, but the people

468
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Speaker 1: that don't have blue check marks impersonating you. Is that

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Speaker 1: happening yet? I haven't had that happen yet, thank the Lord.

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Speaker 1: But I see, like, because I'm on that new Keith

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Speaker 1: Urban song drop top, I have seen so many, like

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00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: on Twitter specifically, so many fake Keith Urban accounts, and

473
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: like some of them will be like Keith Urban fan

474
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Speaker 1: page like none like blah blah blah. But then there

475
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: are people that legitimately like use his same profile picture,

476
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: have the same bio, and literally just copy whatever his

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Speaker 1: tweet is and put it out. They do that to

478
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Speaker 1: me too, and I don't like, Well, here's what I

479
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: think because I've seen and I think they're foreign for

480
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Speaker 1: the most part, don't you might because I they write

481
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: and not completely structured sentences. They spell favorite with the

482
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Speaker 1: you sometimes yea European yeah, And so they're like, you're

483
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: my favorite fan, Can I have some money? Or it's

484
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: like I think it's the scam is always eventually to

485
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Speaker 1: make something off of it. They're not just over there,

486
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying. It's not that they get off

487
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Speaker 1: for them to just impersonate. There's some means to an end,

488
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Speaker 1: and some people fall for I was shooting a story

489
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Speaker 1: maybe yesterday the day before. He the woman that gave

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Speaker 1: like fo do I do? Yeah, she was aiding him.

491
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: I put finger quotes up. She never met him, and

492
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Speaker 1: he convinced her to send her life savings and she did.

493
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: And so imagine though that you're one of these spammers.

494
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: You're just looking for that one. You'll try a thousand

495
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Speaker 1: if you can, if you can just get the one,

496
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, people will people. Then a person Emmy

497
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: asked for iTunes gift cards because apparently they can turn

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Speaker 1: that into money. They ask for money, they ask for

499
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Speaker 1: all kinds, and they'll go on. What they'll do too,

500
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Speaker 1: is everybody that I follow, they'll follow are people that

501
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Speaker 1: message me. They'll go and hit them all up and say,

502
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Speaker 1: this is Bobby's real account, this is my account that

503
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Speaker 1: I like to talk to the fans on, Like I

504
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Speaker 1: took the fans on my own account. What would I

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Speaker 1: get a second account to do that. Terrible I had.

506
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: I've had to um, I've had people like I guess

507
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Speaker 1: make one fake Facebook, I mean one fake Instagram. But

508
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Speaker 1: they were just like posting pictures of me. Like they

509
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Speaker 1: didn't say they were Cassie Ashton. They said they were

510
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Speaker 1: someone else, but they were like using my kind of

511
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Speaker 1: like a catfish a little. They were using you to

512
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Speaker 1: get yeah, the pictures. Yeah. And then I had somebody

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Speaker 1: make a Facebook page that was like real friends of

514
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Speaker 1: Cassie Ashton and try to like add people on this

515
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Speaker 1: page to like pretend that it was some like supreme messaging.

516
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Speaker 1: That's probably someone just doing it for the attention that

517
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: that that that one right there that was crazy. We

518
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Speaker 1: played this song Keith Urban song drop Top. Yeah, huge

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Speaker 1: coming out music music, So how does that happen? This

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00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: happened before I had music out too. So I am

521
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Speaker 1: about to fly home for were Thanksgiving. I never fly home.

522
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Speaker 1: I always drive, but we were only gonna be there

523
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Speaker 1: for like two days, so I was like, let's fly

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Speaker 1: and I fly home. I'm from California, Missouri, Tina little

525
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Speaker 1: town for people listening who don't know. And I get

526
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Speaker 1: an email before I'm about to turn my phone off

527
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: on the plane and it's from some weird, weird ass

528
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: email and it's like the subject is Urban and it's like, hey,

529
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Speaker 1: k I've got a song like I really want you

530
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Speaker 1: to hear, like you have the right swagger? Do you

531
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: want to hear it? Like, and it said k you,

532
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, way, this is weird. Like again,

533
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's a fake, completely fake email, because like

534
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: it was like some stuff grammar wasn't right or like

535
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: it was just very fast typed you could tell. And

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00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: I was like, somebody's pretending to be Keith Urban. That's

537
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: so rude. So I screenshot it and I send it

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00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: to Betha Luke and I'm like, this isn't right and

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00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: and Luke was like that's not the email I have

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Speaker 1: for him, and I was like, man, people are weird.

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Speaker 1: Like that is some extra steps to to be to

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Speaker 1: be a strange human. So then um, the next morning

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Speaker 1: and I'm like telling my dad because I get home

544
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, that's so weird. People are weird because

545
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: it blows his mind every day because like he's been

546
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: in the same four thousand person town his whole life,

547
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: and so he doesn't think stuff like that really happens.

548
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: And I get a text message from an unknown number

549
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, I sent Keith your email. Um,

550
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: so check your spam. I hope you didn't delete it.

551
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: And I didn't have the number save, so I'm like, man,

552
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: somebody's really going to links to be weird right now.

553
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: And um I again screenshot at the number and sent

554
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: it to BETHA Luke and and Beth's like, that's Cindy

555
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: maybe dumbass, like she's the one of the heads at UMG.

556
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I should probably really say that.

557
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: So it's like six am in my dad's shop, like

558
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: where the boat and and it's I stay in the

559
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: RV in the shop because I like to like be private,

560
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: and I start running around the shop screaming because like

561
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: it's real, right, And I texted Bag I got the email.

562
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: I almost deleted it because I thought it was fake,

563
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, I'm I'm gonna give him your

564
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: number if that's okay. And I'm like, yeah, that's okay.

565
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: This was like November of last year and my boyfriend

566
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: comes out of Camper and he's like what are you doing?

567
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: Like why are you scream, so are you okay? And

568
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: I was like the email, what's real? Like I can't

569
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: believe it. And so I get a text um later

570
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: from Keith and he's like, hey, k like Sydney gave

571
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: your number, Like what do you think do you want

572
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: to hear the song? I'll call you in a few

573
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, ship, Like my dad lives

574
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: out on a like fifty acre farm in the middle

575
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Our closest neighbors are like three miles away.

576
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: They're Amish, like there's nothing out there, so that means

577
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: there's like no cell phone service. So I'm like, we

578
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: gotta go town because like if he if he he

579
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: calls me and I miss it, I'm gonna be piste.

580
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: So I text him and I'm like, hey, if I

581
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: don't answer, I'm driving to town. Just text me. I'll

582
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: call you back. So we go in the little grocery

583
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: store and I have like sunglasses on because I don't

584
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: want people try to talk to me, and the Keith

585
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: Urban calls me and I have to be like yo,

586
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: hold on, Keith Urban's called me like I but I

587
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to sit in my car because that felt weird.

588
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: We had to get stuff anyway, and so I'm like

589
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: sitting in the little deli section of my grocery store

590
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: and I wait for probably an hour and he doesn't call,

591
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's Keith Thurber. He's dizzy, like you

592
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: gotta still do you can sit in this grocery store

593
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: all day long. And so my boy was like, come on,

594
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: we should go. He'll text you like it's fine. So

595
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: the day goes by, and then it's that night and

596
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: my dad and I and my little brother and my boyfriend,

597
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: my best friend and her boyfriend are all in the

598
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: shop like drinking or whatever, and Keith text me and

599
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I'm just trying to call you. And

600
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Dad, or I do. And it's

601
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: a big like the shop is like a big like

602
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: aluminum building, and he's like, if you go stand in

603
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: that doorway right over there and don't move, the call

604
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: won't be dropped. And I was like, you gotta be

605
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: kidding me right now. So I go stand in the

606
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: doorway and I'm like, I swear if I hang up

607
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: on Keith, but I'm gonna be so mad and it'll

608
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: take like fifteen minutes drive into town like this is

609
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: not right down the road. And so I call him

610
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: back and he's like, hey, like so you're really on

611
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: a farm like with tractors, and I was like yep,

612
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: like there's cows. Like I'm standing in this doorway trying

613
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: to get his cell phone servants like if I drop you,

614
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: I'll drive to town and and you know, call you back.

615
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: And so then God, the call lasted the entire time

616
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: he sang to me on the phone, and everybody in

617
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: the shops like trying to listen in on the call,

618
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to close the door behind me so

619
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: i can get some privacy, like leave me alone. I'm

620
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: trying not to fan girl and like squeak when I

621
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: talked to this guy and he's singing to me, just

622
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: just go over there. I'll tell you when I get in.

623
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: And so he's like and I was so like honored

624
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: at how he wasn't expecting me to do it. He

625
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: was like, I want to make sure this is on

626
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: brand for you, and I want to make sure that

627
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: it's right for your artistry, because I wouldn't want you

628
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: to do something that wasn't you know you, even if

629
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: you could sing it, and that like meant so much

630
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: to me because he wasn't just talking to me. It

631
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: was like a voice, you know, that could sing. He

632
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: was looking at me as like an artist and really

633
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: caring about what I do um and what I want

634
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: to portray. And so I'm thinking this can be on

635
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: McDonald have a Farm, and I'm must sing it. I

636
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: don't care what this is. It could be the worst

637
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: song in the history. I'm singing shit out of it.

638
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Because he tells me you sing the entire chorus by yourself,

639
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, what, Like that is mind boggling

640
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: to me. So he sends me the song. I'm waiting

641
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: for it to download, you know, because when I fire

642
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: off there so damn slow and I go out in

643
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: the field away from everyone because I'm like, y'all get

644
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: out of my business. And I listened to it and

645
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was amazing song and it sounded like

646
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: literally a summer anthem, like all the drunk girls in

647
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: the crowd are going to scream this chorus like along

648
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: with me. So I called him back in the morning

649
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm in like that's so awesome,

650
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: And then I again ran around the shop just screaming.

651
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: So excited. Um, that was like the biggest early Christmas

652
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: president ever out. How did you know? He went to

653
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: Cindy May, the lady that texts me that is one

654
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: of the heads at the label, and described what he

655
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: wanted and she was like, I got the girl for you.

656
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: So I've never told this story, but I feel like

657
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: it's a good share time. I was at Keith's house

658
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: and this is a pre the record, and I've tried

659
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: too for most of my time here. I've kind of

660
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: let my guard down a bit lately, but I tried

661
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: to not have any friends so I could be super objective.

662
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: If you don't have any friends there artist, you can

663
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: always still have an opinion and not worried about hurting

664
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: or really helping. You just want to be honest. But

665
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I've said before that there are certain people that I've

666
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: tried to not befriend, but they're they're really good people.

667
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: So why would you keep someone that's not super awesome

668
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: out of your life? And keeps one of those guys

669
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: and he is, So he calls me, he goes, they

670
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: probably come over to the house. And this is way

671
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: before the record and I'm only telling the story. It

672
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: was this this he had a conversation about the song,

673
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: and he goes like, I got cast him a song

674
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm the biggest Cassie fan. I said,

675
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: I was a fan of Cassie far I even knew

676
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: what Cassie looked like, like I only heard her voice,

677
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's different and distinct, and it's

678
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: like this. He was telling me this. He's like, picture this.

679
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: You're driving a coach Hell. He's like describing this song.

680
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: He's like, this is why I want. This is the

681
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: picture I wanted to pay. You're driving a Coachella. It's

682
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: all the females of that. And he's like and then

683
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: here it is and he hits the hook of the

684
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: song and it's your voice right there, and that was it.

685
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, he didn't have to play the song.

686
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm already into it. Like whatever, he's

687
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: so into it. I walk up into his house. Uh,

688
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I never told this story before. I walk up and

689
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: he's I walk in and he's in the studio in

690
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: his house and he's playing drums when I walk up,

691
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: and he's just in his own world, just and on

692
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: his own Keith Orban island of music. He's got headphones on,

693
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: he's playing drums and he's like, I'm so glad you're here.

694
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: And first we talked about life from and he's like,

695
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I want to play these songs and so yeah, he

696
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: gives me this. That was the song he gave me

697
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: the longest story about. And then he's like, I think

698
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Cassie is so awesome for the song, and I was like, yeah, dude,

699
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, that's what we had a moment

700
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: talking about you. Yeah, he loved you. He's so nuts.

701
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: And he sends me updates from tour because he had me.

702
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: He has all the females that he does duets with,

703
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: like do the green screen thing. So we're singing it

704
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: at the concert, like on the big screens and it

705
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: looks incredible. And that was so cool because his whole

706
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: team was so sweet and so just the kind of

707
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: people you and Keith would want to work with, Like

708
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: they're cool and down to earth and they just want

709
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: to make cool stuff. And he'll send me updates and

710
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: be like, people love this life like it's going over

711
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: so good, and I'm like, that's awesome. That's literally so awesome.

712
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: And I get so many videos of girls that I

713
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Like on Instagram they d M me or whatever,

714
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: singing the song like in a jeep with like the

715
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: top down and they're like screaming in the song. Sounds

716
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: unsafe to me. Sounds unsafe to me. You you say

717
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: you did pageants as a kid, did you dance like

718
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: for talent? Well, I don't know, but I mean so

719
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: many of my friends that did any sort of stage

720
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: as a kid also learned how to dance. Oh yeah.

721
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I was in dance six days a week from the time, yeah,

722
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: from the time I was four to the time I

723
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: graduated high school. So what was the goal with that?

724
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: To be better on stage? Okay, so in your mind,

725
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: So for me just to relate this and you can

726
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: tell me the same thing. I always did comedy as

727
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: a kid because eventually I want I knew I wanted

728
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: to do a late night talk show, television talk show,

729
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be so good at comedy. That

730
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: was just part of it and it was natural to me.

731
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Is that why you study dance as part of your

732
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: bigger I'm going to be an artist? Yes? And because

733
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: I it was a really great way to get emotion

734
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: out as a kid, and I'm a very emotional person.

735
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: I just like to be whatever I feel, and so

736
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: that was like a great way to deal with whatever.

737
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: And it was a great exercise. And I'm kind of

738
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: a hyperactive human being. I have to have something to do,

739
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: and so that's a great way to keep you busy.

740
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, I wanted to be good on stage. Were

741
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: you a good dancer? I think so? Yeah. I have,

742
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: like because I'm tall and long lived, Like for ballet,

743
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm five tin without shoes, and you have on some

744
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: extremely high hill shoes today and I'm six by tall

745
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: and you're as tall as I am today. Yeah, some

746
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: big old pump sneakers. You're five tin. And it's so

747
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: funny because like my grandma, my grandpa's like six four,

748
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: my dad's like six three. Everybody's tall and skinny my family,

749
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: but my grandma is like five four maybe. And I

750
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: remember when I was growing up, I was like, I'm

751
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna be five tin because all the supermodels were five

752
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: of tin and she was like, no, You're gonna hit

753
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: like five seven and that's it. And I'm like, no,

754
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: it's bullshit, Grandma will be five ten. And I remember

755
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: the day I hit five tin. I like got to

756
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: her house. I'm like, bro, I five tin. She's like,

757
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: are you sure they measured right? I'm like, I'm sure. Look,

758
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: if you put it out into the universe, you might

759
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: just you believe that. You believe putting out in the university.

760
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: Believe that. Um, yeah, as long as you work, if

761
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: you follow it up with work. Yeah, you told me

762
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: you shot guns competitively, yes, So what's that about. That

763
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: was about spending time with my grandpa. Mostly um, muzzleloaders.

764
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: It's the one from the Civil War, you know. It was, Oh,

765
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: that's awesome. It was the most obnoxious hunting because there's mudgloading,

766
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: there's to do the ball, the powder. I mean, it

767
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: really is like you're having a Civil War re enactment

768
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: to shoot the one stupid ball. So you did competitive

769
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: musloader shooting, yes, I did. And then you have to

770
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: throw knives or tomahawks. But I did tom hawks contest, well,

771
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: actually us because it's some of them. They dress up

772
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: and you can dress up like as like colonial or

773
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: as like an Indian, and I being a theater kid,

774
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: was like dope, I get to dress up as a

775
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: character and shoot guns at the same time. Sweet. So

776
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: did you win ribbons? Yeah? Lots of medals were good, yes,

777
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: and I was like pretty much the only girl. But

778
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: it's because I was steady and I was really graceful

779
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: from dance like holding you know what I'm saying, whereas

780
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: most people like tents up. And plus I got my

781
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: first gun when I was like seven, so yeah, I

782
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: got mine really early too. So a gun was never

783
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: so much of a weapon or like a toy. It

784
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: was always a tool. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean

785
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: my grandpa, like I saw guns compatibly for so long,

786
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: and my grandpa even if we go shoot now, he

787
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: acts like it's my first time ever holding a gun.

788
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Like that's how like sacred and like adult. It's it is,

789
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Do you ever take Hunter's dead?

790
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: You never did. They never made me. My parents didn't.

791
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: We had to to get a hunting license. So it's

792
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: part of it. But I was awesome because already knew

793
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: all the stuff. And you're like, sweet, I got this.

794
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, it's like a driver's test, like you

795
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: kind of know how to drive, because again, where I

796
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: grew up, there's nothing. It's a it's a small town,

797
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: it's people, and so you can just drive and you're

798
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: a kid, you can drive like no one's going to

799
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: stop you, because who everybody kind of looks out for

800
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: everybody in a small town. So by the time it

801
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: was driving time, I was comfortable driving. You just have

802
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: to study the book that the written part of the

803
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: tote that was hard for me. I think I failed

804
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: my first time because of that part. Were you a

805
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: good student? Yeah, I just talked a lot. Were you different, Yeah,

806
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: especially when it came about seventh grade. Maybe what was

807
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: different about you? Um? Just I noticed, I think starting

808
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: seventhing in eighth grade, how clicky everything was, and how

809
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: I felt like people were following other people and I

810
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: hate that, And I've always hated in all authentic things

811
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: or people and kind of fake. And I just wanted

812
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: to do my own thing because like I danced an

813
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: hour away from home, and like beauty patterns were hours

814
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: away from home, and everyone in a small town is

815
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: kind of doing the same thing. And I like to

816
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: watch fashion shows and read magazines and do kind of that.

817
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: So I think it started with clothes more than anything.

818
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: I was experimenting with making clothes and layering weird clothes,

819
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: and you know, in middle school that's like the roughest

820
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: time for a kid, I think is middle school, and yeah,

821
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: that's that's when it started. And then it was kind

822
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: of like, okay, well if I look different than these people,

823
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to be doing the same things they do.

824
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: And it just split ways from there. I guess, so

825
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: you were the weird I was a weird kid. Yeah,

826
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: I was a weird kid. I was. And it makes

827
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: you push away too, because you're like, well, if I'm weird,

828
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: I might as well as fully embraced the fact. Yeah,

829
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: I might as well just do whatever the hell I

830
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: want to, because if you're going to talk about me anyway,

831
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: like I might as well give you something to talk about.

832
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: And if it's gonna suck, yeah, it might as well

833
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: be fun for me, right, I might as well really

834
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: do what I wanted, because if it's gonna suck anyway, yeah, exactly.

835
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: And I'd wear something like just to piss people off,

836
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: like like like combat boots and a pencil skirt and

837
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: like a T shirt from Hot Topic and like a

838
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: chain around my head like a headband, you know what

839
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just to piss people off. For six in

840
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: cheelds down the hallway and people be like, who does

841
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: she think she is? And be like me, like and

842
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, I was president of the Drama Club and

843
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: like dance captain and like a big theater nerd and

844
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: choir and you know, if you're not wearing blue jeans

845
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: and sperries like you're weird, you really have a sense

846
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: of who you are. It's cool than listen. I'm a

847
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Speaker 1: big fan obviously, Thank you, Cassie Ashton. Here's taxid Army.

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Speaker 1: Let's play this one. Keep you hanging on too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love I love how you sing it. I love

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Speaker 1: I love the song this is. This song is the

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Speaker 1: jam man. And you know, like as an artist, if

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00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: you love something, if you've had it for like a

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00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: year and a half, two years, and every time it

854
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: comes on you're like, yeah, so what's the deal with

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Speaker 1: the record? Like more music? More music? Right now, it's

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00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: July seventeen. People are gonna hear this for a long time,

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Speaker 1: So when are you expecting to kind of put some

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Speaker 1: more stuff out there? So we have a couple more

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Speaker 1: things attached to taxidermy, um, and then the next song

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00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: should come out and like the next like I'd say,

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Speaker 1: like two months tops, and then I think they want

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Speaker 1: to do a radio single like first thing next year?

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Speaker 1: What do you do every day now? Like what's what's

864
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Speaker 1: the what's life life for you? Right now? Right now,

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Speaker 1: it was finishing up like all the new stuff that's

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Speaker 1: about to be out for Taxidermy, like uh, like acoustic

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Speaker 1: videos and like stuff like that. And we're building brand partnerships,

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Speaker 1: Like a big thing is brand partnerships. Right now. I

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00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: have one with Bows and I have one with Budweiser,

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Speaker 1: and I've been doing like a lot of stuff with

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Speaker 1: them and gearing up for the next song pretty much,

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Speaker 1: and you know, not doing any shows really because they're

873
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Speaker 1: very concentrated on like the look, you know, and kind

874
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: of let's make sure it's right for your brand. Because

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00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: I always noticed like when somebody, I feel like they

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Speaker 1: take whatever, they take, whatever they're given, which is great

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Speaker 1: in some aspect, but in another aspect, it's like you

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Speaker 1: gotta be picky about you know what kind of flavor

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Speaker 1: you are, you know what flavor I am, whatever flavor

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00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: you want to be. It doesn't have to be a

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00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: pre existing flavor. You can make that ship up, you know,

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Speaker 1: fruit loops, all the flavors of different colors. But the

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Speaker 1: same flavor. They taste the same. They're not different flavors.

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Speaker 1: Which one fruit loops all the different colors are the

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00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: same flavor. That is bullshit. I'm telling you. It's that

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Speaker 1: they don't upset about. So I get sitting here and

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Speaker 1: we've talked for an hour just about I get sit

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Speaker 1: here and talk for another How I find you super compelling,

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Speaker 1: very interesting, wonderful on stage. You're going to be a star.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind. And it might not

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00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: be for three months or nine, but you there's just

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00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: certain people you look at and you go, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's not if it's when thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: And that's as long as you don't like, do something

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Speaker 1: stupid in your personal life. Yeah, you know, don't be

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Speaker 1: texting and driving, yeah, because that's the thing you'll go

897
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Speaker 1: to jail and that, oh yeah you can hurt somebody.

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Speaker 1: Don't be drinking and don't drive. You know, it's just

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Speaker 1: quit all driving. But you're you're you're going to be

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Speaker 1: a star. We're gonna look back and remember that time

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00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: that your music wasn't even out and I was like,

902
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: that's so good, and then yeah, I look at you.

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Speaker 1: Well as we end this anything you want to say, Um,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. I don't thank me. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to do that. Okay, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: but thank you for putting me in a class of eighteen.

907
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: And the guy, the mysterious guy who said, you know

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Speaker 1: this girl, thank you for like just believing me because

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00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm still brand spanking new, like not even out of

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Speaker 1: the rapper yet. You know, yeah, I think you live

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Speaker 1: out of the rapper man. Everything I've been around you

912
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Speaker 1: have been like, man, there's something to her. What Kassie

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Speaker 1: Ashday is great to see. Thanks for coming to the house.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you being all right. There we go.

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Speaker 1: That is episode Vambar Bar one thirty three with Cassie Ashton.

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Speaker 1: Watch for new music you can get California, Missouri Taxi

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Speaker 1: Army Right now, listen to Keith Urban's song drop Top

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Speaker 1: with Cassie on it, and uh we will I'll see around. Yeah. Thanks, Thanks,