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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Is this for the gek This I am? Yes, that
Speaker 1: is me. I am. I am a man in a
Speaker 1: gecko costume living psychedelic life.
Speaker 2: Ah wow, is it really you? I mean the gak,
Speaker 2: the one who's in teach.
Speaker 1: It is me, that is the gack, That is the
Speaker 1: one who's on Twitch. Who are you? What is your name?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Uh, my bad.
Speaker 3: My name is David.
Speaker 4: David.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too, David. Where are you calling from?
Speaker 2: Call me from Mexico? Well, Monterey, it's not Red North Mexico.
Speaker 1: Nice can I can?
Speaker 2: I cannot believe you. I cannot believe that you do
Speaker 2: you answer the phone?
Speaker 1: Of course? Well I don't. I it's so funny to
Speaker 1: me that people can't believe I answered. I have nothing
Speaker 1: else to do. I'm of course I answered the phone.
Speaker 1: I if I there's no thing that is pressing me
Speaker 1: to be anywhere else except on the phone with you,
Speaker 1: with me right now, except on the with you right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I'm a little bit, I'm
Speaker 1: a little hungry. I could be out eating a sandwich.
Speaker 1: But I genuinely but I think being on the phone
Speaker 1: with you right now is the best I mean the
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I could be in fucking h
Speaker 1: South America. You could keep teaching children how to read
Speaker 1: or so. I don't even know that. I don't even
Speaker 1: think of all the possible things doing with my life
Speaker 1: right now on the phone with you doing this podcast.
Speaker 1: Is is at minimum in the top one hundred, I believe. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what's up, man? How you doing? What's your name again?
Speaker 1: I forgot my name is David? David?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 4: How?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: What's you live in northern Mexico? What's it like there?
Speaker 2: It's it's well, it's it's really warm, and it's I mean,
Speaker 2: it's really really warm. I mean, I know, I know
Speaker 2: that there's people in Texas that have it more hard
Speaker 2: than than I than I like do, but but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a really I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: heat here in here, so it's quite hard to live
Speaker 2: in here. And also, I mean the place where I
Speaker 2: live in is known here in Mexico to be a
Speaker 2: place where the weather changed a lot like to too drastically,
Speaker 2: so that's part of it. But I like living here
Speaker 2: in the city. I mean I really do like here.
Speaker 2: I really do like living here in the city. And
Speaker 2: I'm about to be two years here in an apartment
Speaker 2: I live in downtown.
Speaker 1: You're about to move to an apartment downtown?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean, uh, it's I mean two
Speaker 2: years ago. It's it's about to be two years since
Speaker 2: I moved to an apartment.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you live in downtown Monterey, Mexico.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do in down. I do live in downtown Monterey, Mexico.
Speaker 1: And what is downtown Monterey, Mexico like? Is it? Uh?
Speaker 1: Is it like very uh? Urban? Like are there a
Speaker 1: lot of buildings and people walking around and all that shit?
Speaker 2: Lately? Yes, there has been a lot of people walking
Speaker 2: on the streets lately.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't know how coronavirus did work in other places,
Speaker 2: but I mean people have four garden coronavirus like just
Speaker 2: a I mean in my in my opinion, like just
Speaker 2: last year. And I know like there are there are
Speaker 2: other places that well ended up the quarantine way like
Speaker 2: way back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Mexico and well here in America
Speaker 1: coronavirus never happened pretty much in it didn't. Well no,
Speaker 1: I mean that as that was as a figure. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you in, but I remember I went
Speaker 1: to Mexico and like we had like we were wearing
Speaker 1: the mask. I had to wear the mask, and I
Speaker 1: was like I completely forgot about any.
Speaker 2: Of this you wear a mask, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Mexico City a couple places I had to
Speaker 1: wear a mask.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry I thought. I
Speaker 2: mean I imagined you in my head with a little
Speaker 2: a little a little mask, like you know, like a mask,
Speaker 2: like a mask, I don't know, something like that, or
Speaker 2: maybe a huge mask or a huge ship something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh you said, like.
Speaker 2: Not yet, like that's the way I pictured you. More
Speaker 2: used to the term vocals, baby, But yeah, a mask, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be more fun than the fucking shitty
Speaker 1: paper one that.
Speaker 2: I was way more fun than having like stupid masks.
Speaker 1: Actually went, I went to a Loocha thing when I
Speaker 1: was in Mexico City. It was fucking crazy, dude.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I only did once when I was when
Speaker 2: I was when I was skided, like when I was
Speaker 2: like seven years old. I guess like me and a
Speaker 2: couple of cousins where I mean they took us. Uh,
Speaker 2: I mean someone took this. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm way too nervous for this.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: So you're wrestling mat.
Speaker 1: Well, tell me more about your life. What how old
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: I'm twenty three years old, nice man? What do you.
Speaker 1: What do you do? Are you in school? Do you work?
Speaker 2: I work at a call center? Uh? You know these
Speaker 2: places where you go with and then a company like
Speaker 2: takes you and well do you take phones for them?
Speaker 2: So that's why I do.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, uh what what are these people call you about?
Speaker 2: Well, it's only for dental appointments, you know, it's not
Speaker 2: like way too just I just do appointments, dental appointments
Speaker 2: for kids.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like I do the appointments, I cancel
Speaker 2: them or maybe I schedule them. That's the other thing
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Is it fun canceling appointments? Like do you get like
Speaker 1: a little hit hit of dopamine when you hit like
Speaker 1: the big red cancel?
Speaker 2: But maybe no, no, no, I mean it's not that exciting.
Speaker 2: I mean it becomes like something mechanical after you do
Speaker 2: you do it like a few times, right. But the
Speaker 2: funny in that work, I mean, in my eyes, lies
Speaker 2: on the people around you. Maybe, I mean, you just
Speaker 2: make some conversation and maybe the ship isn't that bad anymore.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So you have co workers that you
Speaker 1: that you fuck with, that you have nice conversations with.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, I don't mean like having meaningful conversations, well,
Speaker 2: not not necessarily having like conversations about things that I
Speaker 2: like to talk about with them, But as long as
Speaker 2: I have something to talk about, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 2: the thing. Maybe we could be talking about their things,
Speaker 2: things that they like to do, or plans that they have,
Speaker 2: or maybe my own plans. Maybe I'll mention them.
Speaker 4: Yes as well. Or I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have this friends here, I mean, well,
Speaker 2: it's not a friend. I'd like to reserve that term
Speaker 2: two real friends, right, But I have this guy sitting
Speaker 2: next to me with my companion, and we talked about.
Speaker 1: You said companion, and you like to reserve the word
Speaker 1: friend because I feel like companion is almost more intimate
Speaker 1: than friends.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's right, Yes, I think I didn't stop
Speaker 2: that the time I was about to use like, uh,
Speaker 2: I mean, companion sounded to me like campaignero, But no,
Speaker 2: that's not companion, right.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But continue tell me about this guy.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, we just talked about one piece, and I
Speaker 2: really do like one piece a lot. I like that.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a manga guy or I'm not
Speaker 2: an anima guy like two years ago. Uh, someone at
Speaker 2: another work talk told me about this manga one piece.
Speaker 4: And I love it.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: I mean, I cued up finally to the one piece
Speaker 2: manga readers that's out there, said I I'm cut out
Speaker 2: and and I'm happy for it. I like that to
Speaker 2: study a lot.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Now this guy, all right, this guy that
Speaker 1: you talked to one piece about, Like, you say, he's
Speaker 1: your companion, but you wouldn't call him a friend. You
Speaker 1: say you reserve the term friend for somebody else, I
Speaker 1: mean for for sort of a different tier. But would you, like,
Speaker 1: would you ever would you ever ask this guy if
Speaker 1: he wants to go fucking grab a grab a beer
Speaker 1: or something? Would you ever see if he wanted to
Speaker 1: hang out outside of work?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would.
Speaker 4: I would definitely do that. M hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you have it? Do you have a lot of friends?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend today about it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a close friend, a friend that
Speaker 2: I have, uh since I was since I was like
Speaker 2: I don't know, seven or maybe eight years old. But
Speaker 2: it's a long time. It's a long friend, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But and I told I told him that, No, I
Speaker 2: don't think that I have a lot of friends. I
Speaker 2: mean I can't count them with my hands. She's with
Speaker 2: one hand, maybe, but that doesn't disturb me. It's like,
Speaker 2: I there's nothing to worry about. Like the friends that
Speaker 2: I have, I mean they're enough. I mean, they're sufficient,
Speaker 2: and I shouldn't be I don't think that I shouldn't
Speaker 2: be explaining that because I feel that.
Speaker 1: Like that is.
Speaker 2: Normal.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for I mean, makes sense, doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, oh, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: That makes everything you're saying makes one hundred percent sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah that you don't Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: that's what that's That's what's important, right, is that the
Speaker 1: friends that you do have are like people that you
Speaker 1: really really, uh you know, vibe with. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: an it's an honor to have one friend, honest to god,
Speaker 1: you know, it's one person. It's it's in this in
Speaker 1: a big, crazy world. It's an honor to have anyone
Speaker 1: that gives a fuck about you, you know, h.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I mean it is great. I mean, and it's great
Speaker 2: that you feel comfortable with people fucking around with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not used to the term,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean you also trust these people, I mean,
Speaker 2: and that's great.
Speaker 1: What is your Do you have any dreams in life?
Speaker 1: Do you have aspirations for the future?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I mean I'm a musician. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a musician, so I like to I mean, to
Speaker 2: keep learning a lot of stuff. I'd like to keep learning.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to keep doing stuff like participating
Speaker 2: in projects and I don't know, I mean that's part
Speaker 2: of the dream. And also somethings that that I'm achieving.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mmm.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. What do you are? You said you'd like
Speaker 1: to work on projects, any projects in particular, Like, uh, like,
Speaker 1: what kind of music do you make?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a drummer. I mean I've been playing since
Speaker 2: I was like eight and nine years old, and I
Speaker 2: played it. I used to play in the church, so
Speaker 2: I left it when I was twenty, but I was there,
Speaker 2: like playing drums and guitars, and I learned everything everything
Speaker 2: that I know from from this church right in terms
Speaker 2: of music. But I don't play that. I don't play
Speaker 2: there anymore. So I have I have a break right now,
Speaker 2: just right now where I play the drums and it's
Speaker 2: called Neo Fodia. I don't know if I can write that.
Speaker 4: Do what? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wait wait wait what you have? What this is
Speaker 1: a band that you're in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a band. It's well kind of a rock band.
Speaker 1: I'd say, wait right, yeah, type type type it in,
Speaker 1: type it in the chat so I can see.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure uh neo yeah, Neo Fhouria.
Speaker 1: Neo for are you? Are you guys on SoundCloud at all?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, oh wait, you're on Facebook.
Speaker 1: You're on Facebook. I see you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on Facebook. I'm the drummer.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay Neophoia n e O f o r
Speaker 1: I A. Now if you still here's the thing. Did
Speaker 1: you know that if you search Neo Fouria, Google will
Speaker 1: say did you mean euphoria? The tv you? Google will
Speaker 1: say Google will say did you mean euphoria? Yeah, So
Speaker 1: if you search Neo Fhouria, you have to then click
Speaker 1: the snow search instead for I meant Neophouria. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you are the bands.
Speaker 2: But you mean that.
Speaker 1: You drumming. I'm looking at you right now. This is
Speaker 1: your face, this is you drumming. You got big long hair.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. This is you, this is oh
Speaker 1: you guys you have long hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah I had long Yeah, I had long hair, like
Speaker 2: I just got my hair a few days.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I used to have long hair.
Speaker 1: By then, Hasamo's surf punk corn post punk, I'll go
Speaker 1: dis Cordella art rock the garage. You guys are sucking
Speaker 1: cool man goddamn surf punk.
Speaker 3: Like I. Yes, I guess we are.
Speaker 2: Shout out to my friend Albert, the one who's who
Speaker 2: wrote that.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you a question. So, so are
Speaker 1: do you guys playing? Are you are you gigging around?
Speaker 1: Are you playing in a lot of and a lot
Speaker 1: of and a lot of different shows?
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, we're we're having a few. We had like
Speaker 2: h like three shows these year.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: I don't know when when the I don't recall when
Speaker 2: the Fat the Band started formally, but it was like
Speaker 2: last year. I guess it doesn't matter. But we haven't
Speaker 2: we've we've been playing and that's great. And we're about
Speaker 2: to play, uh next month by the twenty something. I
Speaker 2: don't remember, but yeah, we'll play. And and yes, we've
Speaker 2: been playing. We've been gigging.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, is that your dread? Do you do you
Speaker 1: want to be a full time musician?
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean i'd like I like that idea. Yes,
Speaker 2: I like to like to be doing music.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 1: Nice nice, I mean least.
Speaker 2: I mean being being like reasonable. I'd like to find
Speaker 2: out a way in how to apply music like in
Speaker 2: in all my life on my daily life. And if
Speaker 2: I can do it like as a as a job
Speaker 2: as well, I mean, that'd be great, That would be awesome.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What's your Do you have any bands or
Speaker 1: musicians that you that inspire you?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are a lot of people that have inspired me. Uh,
Speaker 2: I guess musicians.
Speaker 4: Yes, there's a.
Speaker 2: Local one here making yet a lot of fung of it.
Speaker 2: And oh gek, I think that I'm about to get disconnected.
Speaker 2: I mean, all right, anytime, I just want to I
Speaker 2: just wanted to let you know that and that I
Speaker 2: love you. I love you so much.
Speaker 1: Are you saying we're about to get disconnected anytime soon? Said?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean I just wanted to tell you
Speaker 2: that I love you. I've been watching your streams. Uh,
Speaker 2: I guess for like four or five months. Tell you
Speaker 2: just yeah, and I love your podcast and I listen
Speaker 2: to you and Spotify.
Speaker 1: Well, I love you man, Thanks man, Thanks man, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. It's fun. It's it's seriously, it is the
Speaker 1: coolest thing to me ever that like you know, folks
Speaker 1: and other countries are listening to this thing. It is
Speaker 1: it is like the the thing about all of this
Speaker 1: uh gecko stuff that has blown my mind the most.
Speaker 1: So thank you, man, I appreciate you listening. Are you
Speaker 1: about to Are you about to hang up because it's
Speaker 1: too expensive? I wouldn't blame you if you do.
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean i'd like to. I'd like to
Speaker 2: stay here. I'm just letting you know that my in
Speaker 2: my drop at any time, but I mean I want
Speaker 2: to stay here. I mean it's it's a wonderful experience
Speaker 2: to be here.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you. I have a couple more questions.
Speaker 1: What so you were in a U so you played
Speaker 1: for a church? Are you a religious man?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd said that I'm still a religious man.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't practice it anymore. But when whenever
Speaker 2: I'm asked that, I always I always say I always say, well,
Speaker 2: I cannot stop being what I've been thought like. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff of course that I mean, it's
Speaker 2: stated that might be dated. But no, still there, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still here. There's a lot of so so
Speaker 1: you were you were taught to be Christian, so now
Speaker 1: it's a tough it's you you don't even know how
Speaker 1: to not be it.
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: go to that extent. I'm sorry if I might, if
Speaker 2: I might sound like that, but no, No, like my
Speaker 2: when we were kids, uh my mom two because my
Speaker 2: little sister and me. I have an older sister as well,
Speaker 2: but only only two two of us. My little sister
Speaker 2: and I took us the church. I mean not like
Speaker 2: nor my my, my my dad or my mom. They
Speaker 2: never were like super religious, never liked that. That's never
Speaker 2: been ilgious then and a mom, well she liked Christian
Speaker 2: church when she took us there and we stood there
Speaker 2: because she liked it, and I liked that. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I like that.
Speaker 1: I like the church.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that I like from church,
Speaker 2: even though I I'm not a part of it anymore.
Speaker 1: Now where do you think we go when we die.
Speaker 2: David, Oh, I don't know. Where do I think we grow?
Speaker 3: I'd like to.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like the idea that we go somewhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, and now I found myself more comfortable with
Speaker 2: the ideas well.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: We could be far off something else. Maybe we go
Speaker 2: somewhere else. I mean maybe, I mean just a possibility.
Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, I don't have a problem if
Speaker 2: I ever stop existing.
Speaker 1: Mmmm. That's good. That's good to not have a problem
Speaker 1: if you stop existing. Some people are are very afraid
Speaker 1: of not existing.
Speaker 2: But I was a great deal not assisting you were existing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a good story, Can I tell you?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
Speaker 3: Okay, listen to this.
Speaker 2: So this is the story of how I well, this
Speaker 2: is a story of how I I realized that I
Speaker 2: was about to die. Well, not about to say it
Speaker 2: that I realized that that I will die.
Speaker 1: Eventually, or the story of you realizing that you are.
Speaker 2: Not immortal, yes, or or that I might not keep existing.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't hit me.
Speaker 2: It was when Michael Jackson died. Yeah, So so it
Speaker 2: was like this.
Speaker 4: I don't know how how much oble I was.
Speaker 2: Maybe eleven I was. I was skidded uh, but we
Speaker 2: were sitting at the couch and then the news it
Speaker 2: was like a movie thing, like the news for every
Speaker 2: time we turned in, will have the news that Michael
Speaker 2: had died. Yeah, And and then the next week it
Speaker 2: was almost all television.
Speaker 3: Was filled with it.
Speaker 2: I mean like rebedias and stuff.
Speaker 1: That he had.
Speaker 2: And I mean you made you can think about it,
Speaker 2: I mean you made you know how what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: So so I remember that I was stilled with this
Speaker 2: idea he died, of course, right. And then the next moment,
Speaker 2: I remember, it was like I was in this couch,
Speaker 2: in the same couch that that I saw the news
Speaker 2: with my sister. I was on my elder sisters, like
Speaker 2: I was sitting on her legs, like my head was
Speaker 2: on her legs, and she was watching TV and we
Speaker 2: were watching music. Like there was this song which I
Speaker 2: still remember. It was a song from a Mexican band.
Speaker 2: But that was the moment I realized, and I just
Speaker 2: start crying. I just start crying. And my sister told me, like,
Speaker 2: what's what's wrong. She really got like worried, what's going on?
Speaker 2: And then I tried to explain her. And the next
Speaker 2: few weeks or a month. I mean after that, it
Speaker 2: was awful, like I couldn't. Like every time I would
Speaker 2: go to sleep, I mean before goes, before sleeping, I
Speaker 2: will say I would repeat my I would repeat myself
Speaker 2: like I might ever stop sisting, like I might, I
Speaker 2: might not be a light tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, huh.
Speaker 2: How did you get Michael Jackson? How did I get
Speaker 2: over that? I don't know, Like I just accepted it.
Speaker 2: I I think that I got work. I think I
Speaker 2: got like tired of the idea of being worried about it,
Speaker 2: like because it was at first it was a.
Speaker 3: Lot of stress.
Speaker 2: I mean I do I remember as that like it
Speaker 2: was super stressful, super it was horrible.
Speaker 4: But but then I.
Speaker 2: I just accepted it, like I stopped. I I just
Speaker 2: stopped thinking about That's what it did. Like I just said,
Speaker 2: I said, well, I'll I'll just live and that's it.
Speaker 2: I'll worried. I'll eventually worried about that later and if
Speaker 2: I die, then I'll die. I can control that, I gotta.
Speaker 3: I used to repeat that to myself.
Speaker 2: I can control that drink.
Speaker 1: You totally can't, though, yes, I mean we cannot.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh used to you used to repeat yours to yourself.
Speaker 1: I cannot control that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I cannot control that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, right right right, fascinating Michael Jackson And so
Speaker 1: before so before my so what you were eleven years old,
Speaker 1: so from ages so so before Michael Jackson died, you
Speaker 1: didn't even realize or you did, like that was your
Speaker 1: first kind of brush with Oh I'm I'm I am mortal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the ship up. I could stop existing. Yes,
Speaker 2: it was that moment.
Speaker 3: It was that moment.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 1: And how do you feel now about the fact that
Speaker 1: you aren't going to exist? To you just have accepted
Speaker 1: that you cannot control it?
Speaker 4: Yes, I can say that I have accepted it.
Speaker 2: Uh. I mean and I don't want to stop existing,
Speaker 2: of course, but I mean I want to keep living.
Speaker 4: And that's it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a matter of not worrying, not
Speaker 2: to not worry about the wrong things. I think it's
Speaker 2: more that in my head and the thing that I
Speaker 2: keep repeating myself. Uh, that's what helps to accept it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. David, David, David, fascinating story. How
Speaker 1: are you feeling right now?
Speaker 3: Feeling good?
Speaker 2: Uh, feel more relaxed.
Speaker 1: Good. You were very nervous at the end. But we've
Speaker 1: been on the phone for I think like a half
Speaker 1: hour or something like that. Are you Are you feeling better?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I feel better.
Speaker 4: Yeck, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean I I had the idea that I might
Speaker 2: that I could call you eventually, that someday I'll call GEK,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll be there for like thirty minutes an hour,
Speaker 2: or maybe he'll never get on.
Speaker 3: But uh, now that I have you here, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I have to say that.
Speaker 2: I think I thought that I could that there will
Speaker 2: be a lot of things that I could talk to
Speaker 2: you about that I would like to talk to you about.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: before before we go? No?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know now I realized that it was perfect.
Speaker 2: I mean the way it was, the things that were said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they were they were the thing that they were.
Speaker 2: So I well, I think that sounds super hitous, but
Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'm happy for for what it happened, what
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I think so tell that we covered some
Speaker 1: good ground. We got Michael Jackson making you realize that
Speaker 1: you were gonna die. We learned about your acquaintance at
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, your companion at the call center.
Speaker 1: We got to chick a fan and I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like, I know, I feel like I got
Speaker 1: a nice, juicy slice of your life in here. This
Speaker 1: was this was fun. Man, Thanks for calling and sharing.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for listening, Gek, and thanks.
Speaker 1: I think I love you man, Hey, I love you too.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: You you take care any any final thoughts, feelings, or
Speaker 1: sentiments you'd like to share before we get kick you
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 3: I'm happy. I'm happy.
Speaker 4: I'm happy and good man.
Speaker 2: And I'll keep you and I'll keep it.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: I'll I'll get a hold of it. I mean not
Speaker 2: to get that's another word. That's that's not what I'm t.
Speaker 1: You'll take that, run with it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, hold on to it for as long
Speaker 1: as you fucking can. Man, Jesus.
Speaker 5: Jesus, love you may thank you, Man you take care,
Speaker 5: Love me, Gek, Bye bye mucha gulstgo.
Speaker 1: That was David. I usually I don't say I love
Speaker 1: you back, but I had to this time because David
Speaker 1: is such a nice, sweet guy. He was so nice
Speaker 1: to me, and he's such a nice guy, and I
Speaker 1: had never in a thousand trillion fucking years thought that
Speaker 1: any you know, folks in Monterey, Mexico would be listening
Speaker 1: to this thing. So thank you David for calling and sharing.
Speaker 3: All from Alex.
Speaker 1: Alex, Hi, what's up now? Much? What are you up to?
Speaker 3: I'm just in a VC with friends, just showing how's up?
Speaker 1: What is there anything you want to talk about today?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wait? Yeah? Wait? Hold on? Is this while?
Speaker 1: Who did you think it was?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I I didn't know if you were the call screener.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, wait, I'm in like I'm in.
Speaker 1: Well, you're a call and you're talking to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm screening you. So I'm somewhat of a call screener.
Speaker 1: I'm screening right now.
Speaker 3: Holy ship? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: What's up? Hey?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm good. Okay, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you how you were, but I'm glad
Speaker 1: to know that you're good.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Sorry, don't know I said that was just being a dick,
Speaker 1: but you know what, the thing it's fun sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just fun. I don't know why, but anyway, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? Tell me all right, you're
Speaker 1: talking to people and the thing ahead you talk all.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sorry. I'm not talking to them. I'm gone,
Speaker 3: uh fuck that, I'm here. Okay. I do have a
Speaker 3: story and I like have a dilemma that I would
Speaker 3: like your opinion on. Okay, it's kind of a long story,
Speaker 3: but okay, so to.
Speaker 1: Start, tell me, okay, tell me the long story. Can
Speaker 1: you tell me the long story in two minutes?
Speaker 3: I'll do my best, Not really, but I'll do my best.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have a childhood friend who me and
Speaker 3: them were basically friends since like preschool probably, and we
Speaker 3: pretty much like grew up together. But as you get older,
Speaker 3: we started to like argue a lot and we would
Speaker 3: clash a lot of our personality didn't get along. They're
Speaker 3: super eccentric, and I started to kind of get more
Speaker 3: into like going to school, high school, college. They kind
Speaker 3: of started to dive into like alcohol, alcoholism, and like
Speaker 3: just just doing a lot of drugs and ship which
Speaker 3: at the time, like freshman year of high school. You know,
Speaker 3: me and them, we did a lot of ship together.
Speaker 3: But uh, this is man, I can't do this in
Speaker 3: two minutes. Man, what yeah?
Speaker 1: You can you? Yeah? She got Okay, you have a friend.
Speaker 1: Your friend was getting into drugs. We're doing homework, and
Speaker 1: then so yeah, to tell me and then just we
Speaker 1: you know, we said to.
Speaker 3: Split and so uh, we started to split up, and
Speaker 3: eventually his life kind of caught up with him and
Speaker 3: he ended up going to jail. So the story, the
Speaker 3: story of what he told me is really funny and interesting.
Speaker 3: But all I know is that he lied to me
Speaker 3: about what he was sent in for and basically was
Speaker 3: in jail for five months or so. Uh, and he
Speaker 3: was like at this time he would have been he
Speaker 3: was a minor, Like he was under age. He was
Speaker 3: like sixteen or seventeen. But I'm an mc so here
Speaker 3: people under the age of eighteen, I think, I forget
Speaker 3: there's an age that like, I don't know, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: expect it. But he was basically treated as an adult.
Speaker 3: So he was in jail for five months and then
Speaker 3: he was sent to some kind of rehab camp. And
Speaker 3: so I'm very conflicted because you know, I've left out
Speaker 3: a lot of details, but I feel very conflicted about
Speaker 3: it because on the one hand, this is like a
Speaker 3: childhood friend, but and like you know, I still, like
Speaker 3: literally like I think about him all the time, and
Speaker 3: I want to see him again. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: our lives are so different now than they were, like
Speaker 3: before he got arrested, Like even before, like before he
Speaker 3: got arrested, we were already getting like divided and arguing
Speaker 3: about shit.
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, so what does this all have to
Speaker 1: do with you?
Speaker 3: Well, for me currently, I'm not a person has like
Speaker 3: a lot of friends. I mean, you know, I I
Speaker 3: just graduated from like a community college, like you know,
Speaker 3: I was going during COVID, so not really needing a
Speaker 3: lot of people. So my my list of friends is
Speaker 3: rather low, like I have some I have some online friends,
Speaker 3: but you know, in general, at least for in person,
Speaker 3: this was a very like.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt you real quick. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: interrupt you real quick. Okay, I'm gonna try to summarize
Speaker 1: this thing. You have this for. How old are you?
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm twenty one, you're.
Speaker 1: Twenty one, okay. And this friend Hell is his friends.
Speaker 3: We're the same age, Like he was born like two
Speaker 3: weeks before me.
Speaker 1: So okay, that's cute that you guys know each other's birthdays. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: And do you guys live in the same state?
Speaker 3: Yes, so well, ideally U in the same city that
Speaker 3: I know of, For all I know, he could be
Speaker 3: across the country by now, like I.
Speaker 1: Know, wait a minute, So is this guy still in jail?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. So he went to that rehab? Shit,
Speaker 3: do you want me to preface? Because I think I
Speaker 3: should tell you, at the very least like what he
Speaker 3: lied about, because it's kind of it adds a layer
Speaker 3: to this. Okay, Okay, So he told me, I'll just
Speaker 3: say that he he told me that he was arrested
Speaker 3: for bootlegging. I told you he was eccentric. I won't
Speaker 3: get into it. But he was arrested for bootlegging, and
Speaker 3: it turned out that he actually was sent to a
Speaker 3: sex rehab. And the thing is, why would you get
Speaker 3: sent to a sex rehab for bootlegging? Now, let me preface.
Speaker 3: Bootlegging is definitely the type of crime that he would
Speaker 3: have committed. So it actually is believable because he did
Speaker 3: make his own alcohol. So okay, yeah, but the sex
Speaker 3: crime thing, you know, that's that's a big thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was sent to a kind of rehab camp. That's
Speaker 3: all I really know.
Speaker 1: It was like Mormon was in Utah, are you guys Mormons?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. I'm actually as far
Speaker 3: from religious currently than I've ever been in my life.
Speaker 3: But yeah, here's here's why.
Speaker 1: Here's why I asked you to explain it in two minutes.
Speaker 1: I wasn't just being I mean, I was being a
Speaker 1: dick a little bit, but I don't think I was
Speaker 1: just being a dick because that he's ultimately well, because
Speaker 1: here's the thing, is the crux of this issue. I
Speaker 1: find I'm not a genius of any kind, but I
Speaker 1: always find that, like when it comes to stuff like this,
Speaker 1: the the you know, the crux of the issues never
Speaker 1: in the details, It's in the macro. So look, do
Speaker 1: you so you know? Is this guy's in jail?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: So I for no. He came back. I think a
Speaker 3: couple I would say, two or three years ago, So
Speaker 3: it's been it's been a while.
Speaker 1: Do you have the desire to be friends with him?
Speaker 1: Because let me tell you this. Let me tell you this.
Speaker 1: I when I I when you were, when you were
Speaker 1: talking about it earlier, you were saying, I'm low on
Speaker 1: friends and wanting to be friends with somebody because you
Speaker 1: don't have anyone else. Is a terrible reason to be
Speaker 1: friends with somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a terrible reason being friends with somebody out
Speaker 1: of scarce. There's eight billion people on the planet Earth.
Speaker 1: Wanting to be friends with somebody because you don't have
Speaker 1: anyone else to talk to is a terrible reason. So
Speaker 1: I hope you're not wanting to be friends with him
Speaker 1: for that reason. Well, if you love the look, if
Speaker 1: you love this guy and you want to be friends
Speaker 1: with him, that's a different story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, And you know, very often I hear
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Oh, well, you know when you get older,
Speaker 3: it's harder to make friends. And you know that might
Speaker 3: be true, that might not.
Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a lie. That's all. It's the
Speaker 1: same amount of difficulty to make friends, at least, I believe,
Speaker 1: at any age. And I could go into I could
Speaker 1: go into all this stuff, but let's focus on this
Speaker 1: one friend that you have.
Speaker 3: I've just never really had any best friends. I haven't.
Speaker 3: You know, this was a childhood friend. You know, if
Speaker 3: I needed to hang out with someone, it would be them.
Speaker 3: I would sleep over at their house like every fucking weekend,
Speaker 3: you know. So it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's a hard rather okay too. I'm sorry. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I keep interrupting you, but I want to hang in
Speaker 1: on this just real quick. You shouldn't be friends with
Speaker 1: this person just because you need friends. And you also
Speaker 1: shouldn't be friends with this person just because you guys
Speaker 1: used to be friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So like, look, i'm asking you. I'm not asking you.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking sixteen year old you. I'm asking you
Speaker 1: as an adult. Do you want to be friends with
Speaker 1: this guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: All right, Well then then you don't have to be Yeah.
Speaker 3: Should I talk to him? Should I reach out at
Speaker 3: least and just say, like, because I just feel bad
Speaker 3: ending of friendship like that, because I haven't really I
Speaker 3: don't know. That's something that kind of lingers. I feel
Speaker 3: like it's like an open wound kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, should you reach out to him? I mean, yeah, sure?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 3: M Yeah? Yeah? And I think I mean, I think
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I think I could still be friends
Speaker 3: with them. It's just I need to know what their
Speaker 3: current life is like, because that's the thing. Is the
Speaker 3: only reason I'm still hesitant is because it seems like
Speaker 3: he hasn't tried to fix his life because the only
Speaker 3: time that he would reach out to me after getting
Speaker 3: back from jail, if he would like ask, hey, what's up.
Speaker 3: You want to smoke? You want to do some shit?
Speaker 3: And you know, by the time he got out, I
Speaker 3: was so far past from my days of just like
Speaker 3: you know, just like smoking and drinking and just like
Speaker 3: wandering the streets and shit. Like I'm I'm so far
Speaker 3: past that now. So like just thinking about if that's
Speaker 3: what he expects, you know, I'm not. I'm not for
Speaker 3: it in any way. But yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Look, man, if you want to reach out to this guy,
Speaker 1: then then I guess I just what's bothering What's bothering
Speaker 1: me is like the melodrama behind it, which seems to
Speaker 1: be stemming from and I'm playing for tent therapist here,
Speaker 1: but it seems to be stemming from living in the past, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and clinging to it and this like scarcity mindset that
Speaker 1: you have towards friends. Yeah, but like look if again,
Speaker 1: there look some people. Look, there's some folks like I
Speaker 1: have I have friends. I have I have a friend
Speaker 1: that I hung out with very recently who I hadn't
Speaker 1: spoken to in god like six years or something like that. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, look, I love I love them. I love
Speaker 1: that guy, and when we hung out it was great
Speaker 1: and I love him. And you know, that's how a
Speaker 1: lot of my friendships are. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to in a long time that you know,
Speaker 1: if I saw them, I would look at me and
Speaker 1: I tell them I love them. I really do. And
Speaker 1: that's what I feel. And like, look, dude, if you
Speaker 1: love this guy and you want to hang out with
Speaker 1: them and be friends with them, then you know, I
Speaker 1: just I'm I'm frustrated right now because I don't you're
Speaker 1: I don't see why you're complicating this so much.
Speaker 3: I understand, I understand. It's just hard. I think I
Speaker 3: think that it's yeah, I I go. You mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's been a very like should I or should I
Speaker 3: not kind of thing, and I just like way like
Speaker 3: the pros and cons. But I think if I stop
Speaker 3: over complicating it, like you know, I like, like you said,
Speaker 3: I love the guy, you know, uh, and I do
Speaker 3: miss him. It's just uh, I just want to know
Speaker 3: how he's doing in terms of like if he Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you.
Speaker 1: Get it, like, like, yes, so this is the thing
Speaker 1: is you're running I guess what's it's you're running around
Speaker 1: in circles here, and it's like and it's like, what,
Speaker 1: I don't you're running around in circles around yourself, like
Speaker 1: debating whether or not you should send a text or
Speaker 1: hang out with a guy. You're not getting married to
Speaker 1: this man. Yeah, you know, you're not committing. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's you shouldn't drive yourself so crazy
Speaker 1: debating whether or not to send a dude a text
Speaker 1: or hang out with him once. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a very low amount of commitment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely am. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Don't be sorry. I hope don't be sorry. I hope
Speaker 1: that this conversation is helping you realize that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's helpful to you. Don't have to
Speaker 1: be sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's no, it's really grounding, like I think,
Speaker 3: at least for me, and I think other people like
Speaker 3: anxiety and ship will like agree. It's just like these
Speaker 3: kinds of relationships we have with people, it's very easy
Speaker 3: to kind of fall into this trap of making it
Speaker 3: look and it make it feel like it's way more
Speaker 3: to deal with than it really is. Like when I
Speaker 3: could just be straight up with them and just you know,
Speaker 3: just reach out and say something or even just like
Speaker 3: get some lunch or some ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's look again, I hope, I hope
Speaker 1: if if you look, if you come away with anything
Speaker 1: from from this, with anything, it's that you know, brother,
Speaker 1: you you know, you're twenty one, Like, you can go.
Speaker 1: You can if you really want to, you can go
Speaker 1: make other friends. I hate this. I hate the mindset.
Speaker 1: You should you should rid yourself of this mindset that
Speaker 1: you have to be friends with anybody because there's a
Speaker 1: shortage of people that will be your friend, you know.
Speaker 1: That's Yeah, that's one thing I I I would I'd
Speaker 1: love to see you not be walking around with in
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and then and then the other thing is you're
Speaker 1: you're driving yourself crazy. I can I can hear. I
Speaker 1: can hear in your voice, especially the fact that you
Speaker 1: were like, you know, even the fact that you said
Speaker 1: you couldn't sum this up into two minutes. It's again,
Speaker 1: it's a decision of whether or not to send it
Speaker 1: to the text or or or hang out with him.
Speaker 1: You're you're not debating whether or not to testify against
Speaker 1: him in court. Okay, you're not. You're not debated whether
Speaker 1: or not you want to, you know, go with him
Speaker 1: to to rob a bank or anything like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is just whether or not you want to get lunch
Speaker 1: with a guy or shoot him at next you know.
Speaker 1: It's it's not as life and death of a thing
Speaker 1: as you're making notes to be, at least from my perspective.
Speaker 1: Well I'm stupid. Yeah, shit, but that's just what you're
Speaker 1: telling me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think I will clarify though with the
Speaker 3: I think I might have kind of worded it wrong.
Speaker 3: But I think for me, I have a lot of
Speaker 3: friendships that I've known these people since like elementary school,
Speaker 3: Like like I would say probably like fifty percent of
Speaker 3: my friends currently are people that I've known for over
Speaker 3: like ten to fifteen years. So when I lose a
Speaker 3: friend like this, it's very hard. And I don't think
Speaker 3: it's I'm trying to say that like, oh, well, I
Speaker 3: want more friends. I want friendships that like that, where
Speaker 3: I've just known the person for.
Speaker 1: So I mean, by what do you mean by you?
Speaker 1: How did you lose this guy as as a friend?
Speaker 1: So how long has it been since you spoke to him?
Speaker 3: Probably like five years, five, six.
Speaker 1: Years, five or six years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, my time span might be messy, but it's
Speaker 3: it's been quite some time since we've like actually like
Speaker 3: called and like spoken like voice.
Speaker 1: Give give this, give this a call. It's like it's
Speaker 1: weighing on your mind. It's weighing on your mind so
Speaker 1: heavily it just give him a call. Jeezus, it's not
Speaker 1: a it's not a again, it's this. This is not You're
Speaker 1: not going you're not committing to a marriage with this man. Okay,
Speaker 1: If it's weighing on your mind so heavily, then yeah,
Speaker 1: you give him man a call.
Speaker 3: Sorry, mister Gek. I have something to say though, just
Speaker 3: like you know, you say that you're not like smart
Speaker 3: or whatever, and I do think it's good to preface
Speaker 3: like you know, you're not like a license or whatever.
Speaker 3: But I do think you do a lot of good.
Speaker 1: I think I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know you you probably hear that all.
Speaker 1: The time, but well, I you know, I well I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. And what's your name again, Alex? Thank you Alex.
Speaker 1: I've been I've been what's the world maybe terse with you?
Speaker 1: Over the course of this phone apologize for that, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm invested in this and I can
Speaker 1: also I can see your brain going crazy, and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that being terseed with you has helped your brain
Speaker 1: to go what's crazy? I know that, And when I
Speaker 1: go crazy, I I like somebody smacking me in the
Speaker 1: face and going, dude, you're going crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you saying we said I say that
Speaker 1: stuff because you know, because when somebody clips me saying
Speaker 1: two contradictory things to somebody, which I'm sure I do,
Speaker 1: I have I I have what's the word, I have
Speaker 1: protection against my sof I can go. I declared that
Speaker 1: I would. I declared that I was stupid. Okay, grants
Speaker 1: me immunity against all the stupid things that I say.
Speaker 3: But it's genuinely, I think, at least for me, because
Speaker 3: I'm actually I don't want to take up much more
Speaker 3: of your time, but I'm like one, I want to
Speaker 3: become a therapist in the future. Like I just graduated
Speaker 3: community college. I'm about to go to like a university,
Speaker 3: so you know, it's seeing like I don't know, this
Speaker 3: is like the most boomer show imaginable. But have you
Speaker 3: heard of like Fraser the TV show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fraser. I've never actually watched an episode like that show.
Speaker 3: It definitely kind of leans too much into like the
Speaker 3: posh humor, like oh we're which we can laugh about
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. But just in terms of like
Speaker 3: having a show where you just you talk to people,
Speaker 3: it's really powerful ship. You don't have to be a psychiatrist,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it works. Some people just need like
Speaker 3: a friend to talk to.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, absolutely, Man, I'm glad I just asked you
Speaker 1: your name.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, my name is Alex.
Speaker 1: By the way, what were you gonna say, Alex?
Speaker 3: Oh No, It's just like genuinely it's been really helpful,
Speaker 3: especially like you know, this is this is stuff I've
Speaker 3: talked to with actual therapists, and you know, they've been helpful.
Speaker 3: But it coming from like a conversation like this, it
Speaker 3: almost can mean more in my opinion, because it's just like.
Speaker 1: What did tell me? Real quick, what did your real
Speaker 1: therapist tell you when you told them all this stuff?
Speaker 3: I think, well, for me, therapy is very more self focused,
Speaker 3: so it was much more of a like kind of
Speaker 3: wanting to like I think they I mean, at the
Speaker 3: end the day, it really seemed like they kind of
Speaker 3: took the same approach, like approaching why I want to
Speaker 3: have friends, like why am I? Why am I like
Speaker 3: still feeling sore about this? And for them, I think
Speaker 3: in the moment like they maybe we're trying to get
Speaker 3: me more to focus in on finding friend like new friends,
Speaker 3: people that I have more in common with. But they
Speaker 3: also didn't really say to like reach out to them,
Speaker 3: because honestly, for right now, I just want to reach
Speaker 3: out and even if I don't fuck with them, like,
Speaker 3: I still want to say like I miss you and
Speaker 3: like you know, you are a huge part of my life.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Dude, those two things don't drive us. Don't drive yourself
Speaker 1: I don't drive yourself crazy. And don't walk around thinking
Speaker 1: that you have to be friends with anyone because there's
Speaker 1: some star city of friends things. Well, thank you, Alex,
Speaker 1: thank you for the kind words, and thanks for dealing
Speaker 1: with me yelling at you is the people before we go.
Speaker 3: You know what, just make sure you're taking care of
Speaker 3: your mental health and you know, just take steps to
Speaker 3: consider it. You know, it doesn't even have to be therapy.
Speaker 3: Just go outside, take a breather, do something you enjoy,
Speaker 3: find more hobbies. Just take your time, and I just.
Speaker 1: I want to add to that. I want to add
Speaker 1: to that. Don't stay up until three o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning browsing the Wikipedia page for human rights violations in
Speaker 1: Sudan like I did last Yeah, that is not good
Speaker 1: for your mental health.
Speaker 3: Yo, up top man. I've been watching I've been watching
Speaker 3: deep sea videos. I stayed up till five in the
Speaker 3: morning watching like deep sea oddities. That's a shout out
Speaker 3: right there. Sorry, but it's like, dude, this account, it's
Speaker 3: just deep sea ro o V footage. It's crazy, like
Speaker 3: it sounds better than it sounds amazing. No, definitely, just
Speaker 3: whenever you're just watch. Just just find your interests. That's
Speaker 3: what I'll leave to people. And find interests that make
Speaker 3: you happy.
Speaker 1: Yes, and hopefully those interests are not people you know.
Speaker 1: So don't stay up until four o'clock in the morning
Speaker 1: watching people jump off of buildings on weird subreddits by
Speaker 1: Alex I'll talk to you soon, man, Thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much.
Speaker 3: Bye.
Speaker 1: What a nice kid. He seems like he can still
Speaker 1: be saved. God is coming for all of us. I
Speaker 1: know this because I've talked to him. Personally, and he
Speaker 1: told me as much. And I think he's gonna say
Speaker 1: Alex because he's a sweet guy. Thank you for calling, man,
Speaker 1: and thank you. Thanks for being nice to me. I
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Speaker 1: Don't stay up until four o'clock in the morning. I'm
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Speaker 2: All right, all from Hello, hey, darn doing all right?
Speaker 1: How are you go?
Speaker 4: Doing good? And I just wanted to, you know, say,
Speaker 4: first off, I appreciate what you do, you know, just
Speaker 4: talking to average joes and and keeping the fish Center.
Speaker 1: Vibe, you know, great reference adult swims, fish Center Christ
Speaker 1: rest in peace.
Speaker 4: Thanks man.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking trying my goddamn best here to do. Whatever
Speaker 1: this is, man, I don't even know, but thanks, thanks
Speaker 1: for calling, Thanks for humoring me in this.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: What's up, man? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Not much? I'm a musician sort of hitting the sort
Speaker 4: of hitting the creative block right now. But I learned
Speaker 4: that I got a dog and he's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Why what what?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Kind of creative block are we talking here?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I got I got all the gear ever wanted. My
Speaker 4: boss at my workplace, he's got a mastering studio, and
Speaker 4: I just, oh no, I can't seem to pump out
Speaker 4: tracks or whatnot.
Speaker 1: Hey, I have an idea. You know the beat you
Speaker 1: know the Beatles. Yeah, why don't you just do that?
Speaker 4: That's a real yeah, I should They they had.
Speaker 1: They were pretty they were pretty successful doing that. Why
Speaker 1: didn't you just do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they even had a they even had a
Speaker 4: movie or something they did.
Speaker 1: They had, they had a couple of movies. They got
Speaker 1: pretty far doing that. What do you want to what
Speaker 1: what in the past, what have you written songs about?
Speaker 4: I don't know, just stuff about anxiety and general inner
Speaker 4: brain stuff. But it's also like extreme metal, so you
Speaker 4: can't even really tell what I'm saying other than I
Speaker 4: guess I've made some post punk stuff.
Speaker 1: What what kind of what are you having anxiety about?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just it's sort of like a
Speaker 4: general anxiety about existing aericon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, existing is crazy. I think you know the thing
Speaker 1: about having anxiety about just existing is I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I you know, I understand that it's painful, but I
Speaker 1: totally get it. I would be any people who don't
Speaker 1: have anxiety about existing. I mean, I'm jealous of them
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 4: Yes, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: This happy, beautiful ignorance. And once you, once you're aware
Speaker 1: of the fact that you exist, hard to go back,
Speaker 1: hard to hard to retain your ignorance. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could drink a lot, but that's most doctors. I've never
Speaker 1: had a doctor recommend that to me.
Speaker 4: Weed's cool.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I've never had a doctor recommend that,
Speaker 1: and which I haven't, but I do know that doctors
Speaker 1: recommended people. It's isn't that funny? There's no medical alcohol, yeah,
Speaker 1: doctors ever alcohol has ever been used for medication, although
Speaker 1: I've heard it does numb pain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, try being the beat All right, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be the Beatles. You're gonna not do alcohol. Why
Speaker 1: are you anxious about existing? Is that even a question
Speaker 1: that you can answer?
Speaker 4: Oh? I've been trying to answer that for a minute
Speaker 4: with philosophy and stuff of that sort, but uh, can't
Speaker 4: you know, I can't really figure it out. Still still
Speaker 4: looking figuring it out. Maybe once I once I do
Speaker 4: the Beatles. Maybe maybe they don't know.
Speaker 1: They seemed like they knew stuff, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if they I don't know if they really did.
Speaker 4: They imagine some stuff.
Speaker 1: They imagine some stuff. You can imagine. Thing is, you
Speaker 1: don't have to know anything, but you can imagine stuff
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, I guess that's what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You're imagining songs. They didn't exist before, and you imagined
Speaker 1: them and you made them real whatever we whatever real means.
Speaker 3: I mean, are you.
Speaker 1: Afraid of that?
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Yeah, I go back and forth on that.
Speaker 1: Existence gives you an anxiety. I know again, I know
Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, I'm not a therapist of any kind.
Speaker 1: I'm a crazy guy on the internet.
Speaker 4: But now you're get go, right.
Speaker 1: I forgot. I forgot that I was a get go Hmmm.
Speaker 4: No, I really appreciate all that.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: the time when you're anxious about existing, that's why if
Speaker 1: you're afraid of death, because I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of the anxiety about existing is there's a well, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of things that could make you
Speaker 1: anxious about existing. There's Uh, Okay, I exist. There's there's Okay,
Speaker 1: I exist, and I know I'm gonna die at some
Speaker 1: point and maybe I kind of come to terms with that,
Speaker 1: but I'm anxious about what the hell to do in
Speaker 1: the meantime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'm not trying to speed around it, but
Speaker 4: I'm trying to, you know, get all the achievements I want.
Speaker 1: Okay, So are you anxious about not being able to
Speaker 1: get all the achievements you want?
Speaker 4: Uh? Not really, Like I don't have to be like
Speaker 4: David Bowie or anything, but yeah, just it would be
Speaker 4: nice to be a little more productive.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What do you do when you're not being productive?
Speaker 4: Uh? Substances?
Speaker 1: Okay? Uh is that where the weed comes in?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'll tell you this from my own life.
Speaker 1: I kind of struggled with what you're talking about for
Speaker 1: a long time of uh feeling like I always needed
Speaker 1: to be productive and I always needed to be making
Speaker 1: stuff and doing things. And I don't know if my
Speaker 1: you know, look, my ambition has gotten me to places
Speaker 1: that have been really beautiful, but also it's it's been
Speaker 1: a been a sense of tormentation as well.
Speaker 4: So word, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's been a tormenting thing, and I don't think it's
Speaker 1: worth tormenting yourself over you know. I mean there's lots
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of things that make life worth
Speaker 1: living that have nothing to do with making anything, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, going for a freaking walk outside is is everything?
Speaker 4: Uh? You know? So, yeah, I hear that.
Speaker 1: So I'll I guess if I could tell you from
Speaker 1: someone who's had the had the pressure for a long
Speaker 1: for you know, a while, probably for a long time. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not as integral to existence as maybe
Speaker 1: your brain is tricking you that it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, maybe I'm put putting it on this pedestal
Speaker 4: sorts the the job, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't beat yourself up, man, appreciate it. Oh, I
Speaker 1: have another idea. I have another idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with that, ask me.
Speaker 1: What the idea is. Have you ever heard of the
Speaker 1: band Pink Floyd?
Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't you.
Speaker 1: Just do that?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll just do that. I do the Pink
Speaker 4: Floyd and I'll do the Beatles perfect.
Speaker 1: This is the most successful phone call I have ever
Speaker 1: taken in the history of this show.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I appreciate being here for it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking it, anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 4: I appreciate what this gecko is doing, and he's a legend, obviously,
Speaker 4: I don't need to say it count for duncan out.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Take care baby, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thanks to add on to that, I have been not
Speaker 1: uploading stuff onto Instagram and TikTok and just playing Nintendo
Speaker 1: Switch instead. Feels great. Feels great. Goes on the line,
Speaker 1: taking your phone calls every night, teaching you. Thanks,