WEBVTT - LIFE IN A NORTH MEXICO CALL CENTER

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hi, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this for the gek This I am? Yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>is me. I am. I am a man in a

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<v Speaker 1>gecko costume living psychedelic life.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah wow, is it really you? I mean the gak,

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<v Speaker 2>the one who's in teach.

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<v Speaker 1>It is me, that is the gack, That is the

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<v Speaker 1>one who's on Twitch. Who are you? What is your name?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Uh, my bad.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is David.

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<v Speaker 4>David.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you too, David. Where are you calling from?

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<v Speaker 2>Call me from Mexico? Well, Monterey, it's not Red North Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice can I can?

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe you. I cannot believe that you do

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<v Speaker 2>you answer the phone?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course? Well I don't. I it's so funny to

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<v Speaker 1>me that people can't believe I answered. I have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else to do. I'm of course I answered the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I if I there's no thing that is pressing me

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<v Speaker 1>to be anywhere else except on the phone with you,

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<v Speaker 1>with me right now, except on the with you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. I'm a little bit, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little hungry. I could be out eating a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>But I genuinely but I think being on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>with you right now is the best I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I could be in fucking h

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<v Speaker 1>South America. You could keep teaching children how to read

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<v Speaker 1>or so. I don't even know that. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think of all the possible things doing with my life

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<v Speaker 1>right now on the phone with you doing this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is at minimum in the top one hundred, I believe. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, man? How you doing? What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot my name is David? David?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>How?

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<v Speaker 1>How?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What's you live in northern Mexico? What's it like there?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's well, it's it's really warm, and it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really really warm. I mean, I know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's people in Texas that have it more hard

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<v Speaker 2>than than I than I like do, but but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a really I mean, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>heat here in here, so it's quite hard to live

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<v Speaker 2>in here. And also, I mean the place where I

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<v Speaker 2>live in is known here in Mexico to be a

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<v Speaker 2>place where the weather changed a lot like to too drastically,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's part of it. But I like living here

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<v Speaker 2>in the city. I mean I really do like here.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do like living here in the city. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to be two years here in an apartment

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<v Speaker 2>I live in downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to move to an apartment downtown?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I mean, uh, it's I mean two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. It's it's about to be two years since

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<v Speaker 2>I moved to an apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you live in downtown Monterey, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do in down. I do live in downtown Monterey, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is downtown Monterey, Mexico like? Is it? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like very uh? Urban? Like are there a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of buildings and people walking around and all that shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Lately? Yes, there has been a lot of people walking

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<v Speaker 2>on the streets lately.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how coronavirus did work in other places,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean people have four garden coronavirus like just

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<v Speaker 2>a I mean in my in my opinion, like just

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And I know like there are there are

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<v Speaker 2>other places that well ended up the quarantine way like

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<v Speaker 2>way back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I went to Mexico and well here in America

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<v Speaker 1>coronavirus never happened pretty much in it didn't. Well no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that as that was as a figure. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you in, but I remember I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico and like we had like we were wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the mask. I had to wear the mask, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I completely forgot about any.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this you wear a mask, I think. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in Mexico City a couple places I had to

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<v Speaker 1>wear a mask.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry I thought. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I imagined you in my head with a little

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<v Speaker 2>a little a little mask, like you know, like a mask,

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<v Speaker 2>like a mask, I don't know, something like that, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a huge mask or a huge ship something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you said, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet, like that's the way I pictured you. More

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<v Speaker 2>used to the term vocals, baby, But yeah, a mask, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that'd be more fun than the fucking shitty

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<v Speaker 1>paper one that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was way more fun than having like stupid masks.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually went, I went to a Loocha thing when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Mexico City. It was fucking crazy, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well I only did once when I was when

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<v Speaker 2>I was when I was skided, like when I was

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<v Speaker 2>like seven years old. I guess like me and a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of cousins where I mean they took us. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean someone took this. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm way too nervous for this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're wrestling mat.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, tell me more about your life. What how old

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty three years old, nice man? What do you.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? Are you in school? Do you work?

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<v Speaker 2>I work at a call center? Uh? You know these

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<v Speaker 2>places where you go with and then a company like

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<v Speaker 2>takes you and well do you take phones for them?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, uh what what are these people call you about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's only for dental appointments, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like way too just I just do appointments, dental appointments

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<v Speaker 2>for kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, like I do the appointments, I cancel

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<v Speaker 2>them or maybe I schedule them. That's the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it fun canceling appointments? Like do you get like

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<v Speaker 1>a little hit hit of dopamine when you hit like

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<v Speaker 1>the big red cancel?

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe no, no, no, I mean it's not that exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it becomes like something mechanical after you do

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<v Speaker 2>you do it like a few times, right. But the

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<v Speaker 2>funny in that work, I mean, in my eyes, lies

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<v Speaker 2>on the people around you. Maybe, I mean, you just

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<v Speaker 2>make some conversation and maybe the ship isn't that bad anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So you have co workers that you

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<v Speaker 1>that you fuck with, that you have nice conversations with.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, no, no, I don't mean like having meaningful conversations, well,

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<v Speaker 2>not not necessarily having like conversations about things that I

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk about with them, But as long as

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<v Speaker 2>I have something to talk about, I mean, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Maybe we could be talking about their things,

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<v Speaker 2>things that they like to do, or plans that they have,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe my own plans. Maybe I'll mention them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes as well. Or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have this friends here, I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a friend. I'd like to reserve that term

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<v Speaker 2>two real friends, right, But I have this guy sitting

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<v Speaker 2>next to me with my companion, and we talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>You said companion, and you like to reserve the word

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<v Speaker 1>friend because I feel like companion is almost more intimate

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<v Speaker 1>than friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's right, Yes, I think I didn't stop

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<v Speaker 2>that the time I was about to use like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, companion sounded to me like campaignero, But no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not companion, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. But continue tell me about this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we just talked about one piece, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really do like one piece a lot. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not a manga guy or I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>an anima guy like two years ago. Uh, someone at

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<v Speaker 2>another work talk told me about this manga one piece.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I cued up finally to the one piece

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<v Speaker 2>manga readers that's out there, said I I'm cut out

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<v Speaker 2>and and I'm happy for it. I like that to

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<v Speaker 2>study a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Now this guy, all right, this guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you talked to one piece about, Like, you say, he's

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<v Speaker 1>your companion, but you wouldn't call him a friend. You

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<v Speaker 1>say you reserve the term friend for somebody else, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean for for sort of a different tier. But would you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>would you ever would you ever ask this guy if

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to go fucking grab a grab a beer

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<v Speaker 1>or something? Would you ever see if he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out outside of work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I would.

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<v Speaker 4>I would definitely do that. M hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have it? Do you have a lot of friends?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to a friend today about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a close friend, a friend that

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<v Speaker 2>I have, uh since I was since I was like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, seven or maybe eight years old. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a long time. It's a long friend, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I told I told him that, No, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that I have a lot of friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I can't count them with my hands. She's with

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<v Speaker 2>one hand, maybe, but that doesn't disturb me. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I there's nothing to worry about. Like the friends that

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<v Speaker 2>I have, I mean they're enough. I mean, they're sufficient,

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<v Speaker 2>and I shouldn't be I don't think that I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be explaining that because I feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Normal.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry for I mean, makes sense, doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say, oh, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes everything you're saying makes one hundred percent sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that you don't Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that's That's what's important, right, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>friends that you do have are like people that you

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<v Speaker 1>really really, uh you know, vibe with. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an it's an honor to have one friend, honest to god,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one person. It's it's in this in

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<v Speaker 1>a big, crazy world. It's an honor to have anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that gives a fuck about you, you know, h.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it is great. I mean, and it's great

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel comfortable with people fucking around with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not I'm not used to the term,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean you also trust these people, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your Do you have any dreams in life?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have aspirations for the future?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, yeah, I mean I'm a musician. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a musician, so I like to I mean, to

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<v Speaker 2>keep learning a lot of stuff. I'd like to keep learning.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'd like to keep doing stuff like participating

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<v Speaker 2>in projects and I don't know, I mean that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the dream. And also somethings that that I'm achieving.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm mmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. What do you are? You said you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to work on projects, any projects in particular, Like, uh, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of music do you make?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a drummer. I mean I've been playing since

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<v Speaker 2>I was like eight and nine years old, and I

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<v Speaker 2>played it. I used to play in the church, so

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<v Speaker 2>I left it when I was twenty, but I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>like playing drums and guitars, and I learned everything everything

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<v Speaker 2>that I know from from this church right in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of music. But I don't play that. I don't play

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<v Speaker 2>there anymore. So I have I have a break right now,

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<v Speaker 2>just right now where I play the drums and it's

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<v Speaker 2>called Neo Fodia. I don't know if I can write that.

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<v Speaker 4>Do what? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Wait wait wait what you have? What this is

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<v Speaker 1>a band that you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a band. It's well kind of a rock band.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, wait right, yeah, type type type it in,

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<v Speaker 1>type it in the chat so I can see.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, sure uh neo yeah, Neo Fhouria.

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<v Speaker 1>Neo for are you? Are you guys on SoundCloud at all?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, oh wait, you're on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Facebook. I see you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's on Facebook. I'm the drummer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay Neophoia n e O f o r

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<v Speaker 1>I A. Now if you still here's the thing. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that if you search Neo Fouria, Google will

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<v Speaker 1>say did you mean euphoria? The tv you? Google will

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<v Speaker 1>say Google will say did you mean euphoria? Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you search Neo Fhouria, you have to then click

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<v Speaker 1>the snow search instead for I meant Neophouria. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>you are the bands.

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<v Speaker 2>But you mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>You drumming. I'm looking at you right now. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your face, this is you drumming. You got big long hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you. This is you, this is oh

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<v Speaker 1>you guys you have long hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I had long Yeah, I had long hair, like

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<v Speaker 2>I just got my hair a few days.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I used to have long hair.

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<v Speaker 1>By then, Hasamo's surf punk corn post punk, I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>dis Cordella art rock the garage. You guys are sucking

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<v Speaker 1>cool man goddamn surf punk.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I. Yes, I guess we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to my friend Albert, the one who's who

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<v Speaker 2>wrote that.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me ask you a question. So, so are

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys playing? Are you are you gigging around?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you playing in a lot of and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of and a lot of different shows?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, yes, we're we're having a few. We had like

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<v Speaker 2>h like three shows these year.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when when the I don't recall when

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<v Speaker 2>the Fat the Band started formally, but it was like

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<v Speaker 2>last year. I guess it doesn't matter. But we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>we've we've been playing and that's great. And we're about

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<v Speaker 2>to play, uh next month by the twenty something. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember, but yeah, we'll play. And and yes, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been playing. We've been gigging.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, is that your dread? Do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a full time musician?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean i'd like I like that idea. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to like to be doing music.

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<v Speaker 4>All the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice nice, I mean least.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean being being like reasonable. I'd like to find

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<v Speaker 2>out a way in how to apply music like in

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<v Speaker 2>in all my life on my daily life. And if

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<v Speaker 2>I can do it like as a as a job

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<v Speaker 2>as well, I mean, that'd be great, That would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. What's your Do you have any bands or

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<v Speaker 1>musicians that you that inspire you?

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there are a lot of people that have inspired me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess musicians.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Local one here making yet a lot of fung of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh gek, I think that I'm about to get disconnected.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all right, anytime, I just want to I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to let you know that and that I

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<v Speaker 2>love you. I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying we're about to get disconnected anytime soon? Said?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I mean I just wanted to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that I love you. I've been watching your streams. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess for like four or five months. Tell you

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, and I love your podcast and I listen

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<v Speaker 2>to you and Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I love you man, Thanks man, Thanks man, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. It's fun. It's it's seriously, it is the

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<v Speaker 1>coolest thing to me ever that like you know, folks

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<v Speaker 1>and other countries are listening to this thing. It is

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<v Speaker 1>it is like the the thing about all of this

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<v Speaker 1>uh gecko stuff that has blown my mind the most.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, man, I appreciate you listening. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>about to Are you about to hang up because it's

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<v Speaker 1>too expensive? I wouldn't blame you if you do.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I mean i'd like to. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>stay here. I'm just letting you know that my in

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<v Speaker 2>my drop at any time, but I mean I want

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<v Speaker 2>to stay here. I mean it's it's a wonderful experience

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<v Speaker 2>to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask you. I have a couple more questions.

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<v Speaker 1>What so you were in a U so you played

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<v Speaker 1>for a church? Are you a religious man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'd said that I'm still a religious man.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't practice it anymore. But when whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asked that, I always I always say I always say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot stop being what I've been thought like. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff of course that I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>stated that might be dated. But no, still there, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm still here. There's a lot of so so

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<v Speaker 1>you were you were taught to be Christian, so now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough it's you you don't even know how

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<v Speaker 1>to not be it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, it's I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>go to that extent. I'm sorry if I might, if

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<v Speaker 2>I might sound like that, but no, No, like my

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<v Speaker 2>when we were kids, uh my mom two because my

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<v Speaker 2>little sister and me. I have an older sister as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but only only two two of us. My little sister

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<v Speaker 2>and I took us the church. I mean not like

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<v Speaker 2>nor my my, my my dad or my mom. They

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<v Speaker 2>never were like super religious, never liked that. That's never

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<v Speaker 2>been ilgious then and a mom, well she liked Christian

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<v Speaker 2>church when she took us there and we stood there

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<v Speaker 2>because she liked it, and I liked that. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the church.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of things that I like from church,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I I'm not a part of it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Now where do you think we go when we die.

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<v Speaker 2>David, Oh, I don't know. Where do I think we grow?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'd like the idea that we go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and now I found myself more comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>the ideas well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>We could be far off something else. Maybe we go

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. I mean maybe, I mean just a possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. I mean, I don't have a problem if

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<v Speaker 2>I ever stop existing.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmmm. That's good. That's good to not have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>if you stop existing. Some people are are very afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of not existing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was a great deal not assisting you were existing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good story, Can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the story of how I well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a story of how I I realized that I

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<v Speaker 2>was about to die. Well, not about to say it

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<v Speaker 2>that I realized that that I will die.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, or the story of you realizing that you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Not immortal, yes, or or that I might not keep existing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I can't hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was when Michael Jackson died. Yeah, So so it

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<v Speaker 2>was like this.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how how much oble I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe eleven I was. I was skidded uh, but we

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<v Speaker 2>were sitting at the couch and then the news it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a movie thing, like the news for every

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<v Speaker 2>time we turned in, will have the news that Michael

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<v Speaker 2>had died. Yeah, And and then the next week it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost all television.

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<v Speaker 3>Was filled with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like rebedias and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That he had.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean you made you can think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you made you know how what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>So so I remember that I was stilled with this

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<v Speaker 2>idea he died, of course, right. And then the next moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, it was like I was in this couch,

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<v Speaker 2>in the same couch that that I saw the news

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<v Speaker 2>with my sister. I was on my elder sisters, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting on her legs, like my head was

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<v Speaker 2>on her legs, and she was watching TV and we

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<v Speaker 2>were watching music. Like there was this song which I

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<v Speaker 2>still remember. It was a song from a Mexican band.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was the moment I realized, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>start crying. I just start crying. And my sister told me, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's what's wrong. She really got like worried, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I tried to explain her. And the next

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks or a month. I mean after that, it

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<v Speaker 2>was awful, like I couldn't. Like every time I would

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<v Speaker 2>go to sleep, I mean before goes, before sleeping, I

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<v Speaker 2>will say I would repeat my I would repeat myself

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<v Speaker 2>like I might ever stop sisting, like I might, I

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<v Speaker 2>might not be a light tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you get Michael Jackson? How did I get

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<v Speaker 2>over that? I don't know, Like I just accepted it.

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<v Speaker 2>I I think that I got work. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>got like tired of the idea of being worried about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like because it was at first it was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of stress.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I do I remember as that like it

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<v Speaker 2>was super stressful, super it was horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>But but then I.

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<v Speaker 2>I just accepted it, like I stopped. I I just

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<v Speaker 2>stopped thinking about That's what it did. Like I just said,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, I'll I'll just live and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll worried. I'll eventually worried about that later and if

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<v Speaker 2>I die, then I'll die. I can control that, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to repeat that to myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I can control that drink.

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<v Speaker 1>You totally can't, though, yes, I mean we cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh used to you used to repeat yours to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot control that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I cannot control that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, right right right, fascinating Michael Jackson And so

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<v Speaker 1>before so before my so what you were eleven years old,

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<v Speaker 1>so from ages so so before Michael Jackson died, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even realize or you did, like that was your

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<v Speaker 1>first kind of brush with Oh I'm I'm I am mortal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the ship up. I could stop existing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it was that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It was that moment.

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<v Speaker 4>M hm.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you feel now about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't going to exist? To you just have accepted

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<v Speaker 1>that you cannot control it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I can say that I have accepted it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. I mean and I don't want to stop existing,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but I mean I want to keep living.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's a matter of not worrying, not

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<v Speaker 2>to not worry about the wrong things. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>more that in my head and the thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>keep repeating myself. Uh, that's what helps to accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. David, David, David, fascinating story. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you feeling right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Feeling good?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, feel more relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. You were very nervous at the end. But we've

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<v Speaker 1>been on the phone for I think like a half

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<v Speaker 1>hour or something like that. Are you Are you feeling better?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeck, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I I had the idea that I might

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<v Speaker 2>that I could call you eventually, that someday I'll call GEK,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll be there for like thirty minutes an hour,

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>or maybe he'll never get on.

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 3>But uh, now that I have you here, I'm sorry.

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 3>I have to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I thought that I could that there will

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of things that I could talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you about that I would like to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else that you wanted to talk about

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>before before we go? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know now I realized that it was perfect.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean the way it was, the things that were said, Yeah,

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean they were they were the thing that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>So I well, I think that sounds super hitous, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy. I'm happy for for what it happened, what

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<v Speaker 2>he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I think so tell that we covered some

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>good ground. We got Michael Jackson making you realize that

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you were gonna die. We learned about your acquaintance at

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the uh, you know, your companion at the call center.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to chick a fan and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I know, I feel like I got

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<v Speaker 1>a nice, juicy slice of your life in here. This

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<v Speaker 1>was this was fun. Man, Thanks for calling and sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you for listening, Gek, and thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I love you man, Hey, I love you too.

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You you take care any any final thoughts, feelings, or

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>sentiments you'd like to share before we get kick you

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<v Speaker 1>out of here.

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm happy. I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy and good man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll keep you and I'll keep it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll I'll get a hold of it. I mean not

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>to get that's another word. That's that's not what I'm t.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll take that, run with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hold on, hold on to it for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you fucking can. Man, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 5>Jesus, love you may thank you, Man you take care,

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<v Speaker 5>Love me, Gek, Bye bye mucha gulstgo.

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<v Speaker 1>That was David. I usually I don't say I love

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<v Speaker 1>you back, but I had to this time because David

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<v Speaker 1>is such a nice, sweet guy. He was so nice

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to me, and he's such a nice guy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had never in a thousand trillion fucking years thought that

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>any you know, folks in Monterey, Mexico would be listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this thing. So thank you David for calling and sharing.

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<v Speaker 3>All from Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex, Hi, what's up now? Much? What are you up to?

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just in a VC with friends, just showing how's up?

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>What is there anything you want to talk about today?

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Wait? Yeah? Wait? Hold on? Is this while?

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<v Speaker 1>Who did you think it was?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I I didn't know if you were the call screener.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit, wait, I'm in like I'm in.

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're a call and you're talking to me, and

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm screening you. So I'm somewhat of a call screener.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm screening right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy ship? Oh my god?

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>What's up? Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I'm good. Okay, I'm good.

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask you how you were, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>to know that you're good.

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, don't know I said that was just being a dick,

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>but you know what, the thing it's fun sometimes it's

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.239
<v Speaker 1>just fun. I don't know why, but anyway, what's up?

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm good? Tell me all right, you're

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>talking to people and the thing ahead you talk all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm sorry. I'm not talking to them. I'm gone,

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 3>uh fuck that, I'm here. Okay. I do have a

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<v Speaker 3>story and I like have a dilemma that I would

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<v Speaker 3>like your opinion on. Okay, it's kind of a long story,

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<v Speaker 3>but okay, so to.

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<v Speaker 1>Start, tell me, okay, tell me the long story. Can

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you tell me the long story in two minutes?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do my best, Not really, but I'll do my best.

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I have a childhood friend who me and

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 3>them were basically friends since like preschool probably, and we

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much like grew up together. But as you get older,

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<v Speaker 3>we started to like argue a lot and we would

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<v Speaker 3>clash a lot of our personality didn't get along. They're

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<v Speaker 3>super eccentric, and I started to kind of get more

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<v Speaker 3>into like going to school, high school, college. They kind

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<v Speaker 3>of started to dive into like alcohol, alcoholism, and like

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<v Speaker 3>just just doing a lot of drugs and ship which

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 3>at the time, like freshman year of high school. You know,

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 3>me and them, we did a lot of ship together.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, this is man, I can't do this in

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<v Speaker 3>two minutes. Man, what yeah?

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>You can you? Yeah? She got Okay, you have a friend.

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Your friend was getting into drugs. We're doing homework, and

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>then so yeah, to tell me and then just we

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, we said to.

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<v Speaker 3>Split and so uh, we started to split up, and

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<v Speaker 3>eventually his life kind of caught up with him and

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>he ended up going to jail. So the story, the

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 3>story of what he told me is really funny and interesting.

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 3>But all I know is that he lied to me

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<v Speaker 3>about what he was sent in for and basically was

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<v Speaker 3>in jail for five months or so. Uh, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was like at this time he would have been he

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<v Speaker 3>was a minor, Like he was under age. He was

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<v Speaker 3>like sixteen or seventeen. But I'm an mc so here

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<v Speaker 3>people under the age of eighteen, I think, I forget

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 3>there's an age that like, I don't know, you wouldn't

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>expect it. But he was basically treated as an adult.

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:10.959
<v Speaker 3>So he was in jail for five months and then

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<v Speaker 3>he was sent to some kind of rehab camp. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm very conflicted because you know, I've left out

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of details, but I feel very conflicted about

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<v Speaker 3>it because on the one hand, this is like a

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<v Speaker 3>childhood friend, but and like you know, I still, like

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<v Speaker 3>literally like I think about him all the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see him again. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>our lives are so different now than they were, like

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<v Speaker 3>before he got arrested, Like even before, like before he

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<v Speaker 3>got arrested, we were already getting like divided and arguing

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 3>about shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, yeah, so what does this all have to

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<v Speaker 1>do with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for me currently, I'm not a person has like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of friends. I mean, you know, I I

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 3>just graduated from like a community college, like you know,

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 3>I was going during COVID, so not really needing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people. So my my list of friends is

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<v Speaker 3>rather low, like I have some I have some online friends,

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 3>but you know, in general, at least for in person,

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 3>this was a very like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt you real quick. I'm gonna

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>interrupt you real quick. Okay, I'm gonna try to summarize

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>this thing. You have this for. How old are you?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I'm twenty one, you're.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Twenty one, okay. And this friend Hell is his friends.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 3>We're the same age, Like he was born like two

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 3>weeks before me.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 1>So okay, that's cute that you guys know each other's birthdays. Yeah, okay,

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And do you guys live in the same state?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so well, ideally U in the same city that

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 3>I know of, For all I know, he could be

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 3>across the country by now, like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, wait a minute, So is this guy still in jail?

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no no. So he went to that rehab? Shit,

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 3>do you want me to preface? Because I think I

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 3>should tell you, at the very least like what he

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.720
<v Speaker 3>lied about, because it's kind of it adds a layer

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 3>to this. Okay, Okay, So he told me, I'll just

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 3>say that he he told me that he was arrested

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 3>for bootlegging. I told you he was eccentric. I won't

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 3>get into it. But he was arrested for bootlegging, and

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 3>it turned out that he actually was sent to a

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 3>sex rehab. And the thing is, why would you get

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 3>sent to a sex rehab for bootlegging? Now, let me preface.

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Bootlegging is definitely the type of crime that he would

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 3>have committed. So it actually is believable because he did

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 3>make his own alcohol. So okay, yeah, but the sex

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 3>crime thing, you know, that's that's a big thing. I mean,

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>he was sent to a kind of rehab camp. That's

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 3>all I really know.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It was like Mormon was in Utah, are you guys Mormons?

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no no. I'm actually as far

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 3>from religious currently than I've ever been in my life.

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, here's here's why.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Here's why I asked you to explain it in two minutes.

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't just being I mean, I was being a

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>dick a little bit, but I don't think I was

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 1>just being a dick because that he's ultimately well, because

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, is the crux of this issue. I

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>find I'm not a genius of any kind, but I

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 1>always find that, like when it comes to stuff like this,

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the the you know, the crux of the issues never

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in the details, It's in the macro. So look, do

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you so you know? Is this guy's in jail?

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 3>So I for no. He came back. I think a

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 3>couple I would say, two or three years ago, So

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 3>it's been it's been a while.

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you have the desire to be friends with him?

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Because let me tell you this. Let me tell you this.

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I when I I when you were, when you were

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about it earlier, you were saying, I'm low on

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>friends and wanting to be friends with somebody because you

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have anyone else. Is a terrible reason to be

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>friends with somebody.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a terrible reason being friends with somebody out

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>of scarce. There's eight billion people on the planet Earth.

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Wanting to be friends with somebody because you don't have

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>anyone else to talk to is a terrible reason. So

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I hope you're not wanting to be friends with him

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>for that reason. Well, if you love the look, if

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you love this guy and you want to be friends

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>with him, that's a different story.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I say, And you know, very often I hear

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing. Oh, well, you know when you get older,

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 3>it's harder to make friends. And you know that might

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 3>be true, that might not.

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>No, that's a that's a lie. That's all. It's the

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 1>same amount of difficulty to make friends, at least, I believe,

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>at any age. And I could go into I could

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>go into all this stuff, but let's focus on this

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>one friend that you have.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I've just never really had any best friends. I haven't.

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, this was a childhood friend. You know, if

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I needed to hang out with someone, it would be them.

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I would sleep over at their house like every fucking weekend,

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 3>you know. So it's hard.

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a hard rather okay too. I'm sorry. I'm sorry

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I keep interrupting you, but I want to hang in

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>on this just real quick. You shouldn't be friends with

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>this person just because you need friends. And you also

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be friends with this person just because you guys

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>used to be friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, So like, look, i'm asking you. I'm not asking you.

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking sixteen year old you. I'm asking you

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult. Do you want to be friends with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I don't think so.

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well then then you don't have to be Yeah.

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Should I talk to him? Should I reach out at

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 3>least and just say, like, because I just feel bad

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 3>ending of friendship like that, because I haven't really I

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know. That's something that kind of lingers. I feel

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 3>like it's like an open wound kind of thing.

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, should you reach out to him? I mean, yeah, sure?

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Why not?

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 3>M Yeah? Yeah? And I think I mean, I think

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest, I think I could still be friends

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 3>with them. It's just I need to know what their

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 3>current life is like, because that's the thing. Is the

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 3>only reason I'm still hesitant is because it seems like

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 3>he hasn't tried to fix his life because the only

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.800
<v Speaker 3>time that he would reach out to me after getting

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 3>back from jail, if he would like ask, hey, what's up.

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 3>You want to smoke? You want to do some shit?

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 3>And you know, by the time he got out, I

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 3>was so far past from my days of just like

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, just like smoking and drinking and just like

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.919
<v Speaker 3>wandering the streets and shit. Like I'm I'm so far

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 3>past that now. So like just thinking about if that's

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 3>what he expects, you know, I'm not. I'm not for

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 3>it in any way. But yeah, so.

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Look, man, if you want to reach out to this guy,

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>then then I guess I just what's bothering What's bothering

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>me is like the melodrama behind it, which seems to

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>be stemming from and I'm playing for tent therapist here,

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>but it seems to be stemming from living in the past, Yeah,

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and clinging to it and this like scarcity mindset that

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you have towards friends. Yeah, but like look if again,

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>there look some people. Look, there's some folks like I

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>have I have friends. I have I have a friend

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that I hung out with very recently who I hadn't

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>spoken to in god like six years or something like that. Well,

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, look, I love I love them. I love

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that guy, and when we hung out it was great

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and I love him. And you know, that's how a

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of my friendships are. There's a lot of people

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I haven't spoken to in a long time that you know,

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>if I saw them, I would look at me and

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I tell them I love them. I really do. And

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what I feel. And like, look, dude, if you

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>love this guy and you want to hang out with

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>them and be friends with them, then you know, I

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:46.919
<v Speaker 1>just I'm I'm frustrated right now because I don't you're

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't see why you're complicating this so much.

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I understand, I understand. It's just hard. I think I

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 3>think that it's yeah, I I go. You mean, it's

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 3>it's been a very like should I or should I

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 3>not kind of thing, and I just like way like

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 3>the pros and cons. But I think if I stop

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 3>over complicating it, like you know, I like, like you said,

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I love the guy, you know, uh, and I do

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 3>miss him. It's just uh, I just want to know

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 3>how he's doing in terms of like if he Yeah,

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I think you.

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Get it, like, like, yes, so this is the thing

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>is you're running I guess what's it's you're running around

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>in circles here, and it's like and it's like, what,

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't you're running around in circles around yourself, like

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>debating whether or not you should send a text or

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>hang out with a guy. You're not getting married to

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>this man. Yeah, you know, you're not committing. It's like

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's it's you shouldn't drive yourself so crazy

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>debating whether or not to send a dude a text

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>or hang out with him once. Yeah, you know, it's

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a very low amount of commitment.

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely am. I'm sorry.

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't be sorry. I hope don't be sorry. I hope

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that this conversation is helping you realize that.

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's helpful to you. Don't have to

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>be sorry.

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's no, it's really grounding, like I think,

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 3>at least for me, and I think other people like

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>anxiety and ship will like agree. It's just like these

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:32.240
<v Speaker 3>kinds of relationships we have with people, it's very easy

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.839
<v Speaker 3>to kind of fall into this trap of making it

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 3>look and it make it feel like it's way more

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 3>to deal with than it really is. Like when I

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 3>could just be straight up with them and just you know,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 3>just reach out and say something or even just like

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 3>get some lunch or some ship.

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's look again, I hope, I hope

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>if if you look, if you come away with anything

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>from from this, with anything, it's that you know, brother,

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you you know, you're twenty one, Like, you can go.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>You can if you really want to, you can go

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>make other friends. I hate this. I hate the mindset.

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>You should you should rid yourself of this mindset that

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you have to be friends with anybody because there's a

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>shortage of people that will be your friend, you know.

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>That's Yeah, that's one thing I I I would I'd

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>love to see you not be walking around with in

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>your head.

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, and then and then the other thing is you're

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you're driving yourself crazy. I can I can hear. I

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>can hear in your voice, especially the fact that you

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.479
<v Speaker 1>were like, you know, even the fact that you said

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.479
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't sum this up into two minutes. It's again,

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a decision of whether or not to send it

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to the text or or or hang out with him.

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:49.760
<v Speaker 1>You're you're not debating whether or not to testify against

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:53.919
<v Speaker 1>him in court. Okay, you're not. You're not debated whether

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>or not you want to, you know, go with him

0:44:56.640 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to to rob a bank or anything like that. Okay,

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.479
<v Speaker 1>this is just whether or not you want to get lunch

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>with a guy or shoot him at next you know.

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.919
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not as life and death of a thing

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>as you're making notes to be, at least from my perspective.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Well I'm stupid. Yeah, shit, but that's just what you're

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>telling me.

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I think I will clarify though with the

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I think I might have kind of worded it wrong.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 3>But I think for me, I have a lot of

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 3>friendships that I've known these people since like elementary school,

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Like like I would say probably like fifty percent of

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 3>my friends currently are people that I've known for over

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 3>like ten to fifteen years. So when I lose a

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 3>friend like this, it's very hard. And I don't think

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 3>it's I'm trying to say that like, oh, well, I

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 3>want more friends. I want friendships that like that, where

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 3>I've just known the person for.

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, by what do you mean by you?

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>How did you lose this guy as as a friend?

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>So how long has it been since you spoke to him?

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Probably like five years, five, six.

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Years, five or six years.

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry, my time span might be messy, but it's

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 3>it's been quite some time since we've like actually like

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 3>called and like spoken like voice.

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Give give this, give this a call. It's like it's

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>weighing on your mind. It's weighing on your mind so

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>heavily it just give him a call. Jeezus, it's not

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 1>a it's not a again, it's this. This is not You're

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>not going you're not committing to a marriage with this man. Okay,

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 1>If it's weighing on your mind so heavily, then yeah,

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you give him man a call.

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, mister Gek. I have something to say though, just

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 3>like you know, you say that you're not like smart

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.280
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, and I do think it's good to preface

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 3>like you know, you're not like a license or whatever.

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 3>But I do think you do a lot of good.

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I appreciate that.

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know you you probably hear that all.

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>The time, but well, I you know, I well I

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. And what's your name again, Alex? Thank you Alex.

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been what's the world maybe terse with you?

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Over the course of this phone apologize for that, but

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm, I'm, I'm invested in this and I can

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 1>also I can see your brain going crazy, and I'm

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.839
<v Speaker 1>hoping that being terseed with you has helped your brain

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to go what's crazy? I know that, And when I

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>go crazy, I I like somebody smacking me in the

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>face and going, dude, you're going crazy.

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I appreciate you saying we said I say that

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:41.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff because you know, because when somebody clips me saying

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 1>two contradictory things to somebody, which I'm sure I do,

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I have I I have what's the word, I have

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>protection against my sof I can go. I declared that

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I would. I declared that I was stupid. Okay, grants

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>me immunity against all the stupid things that I say.

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 3>But it's genuinely, I think, at least for me, because

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually I don't want to take up much more

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 3>of your time, but I'm like one, I want to

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 3>become a therapist in the future. Like I just graduated

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 3>community college. I'm about to go to like a university,

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 3>so you know, it's seeing like I don't know, this

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 3>is like the most boomer show imaginable. But have you

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 3>heard of like Fraser the TV show.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Fraser. I've never actually watched an episode like that show.

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 3>It definitely kind of leans too much into like the

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 3>posh humor, like oh we're which we can laugh about

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 3>this kind of stuff. But just in terms of like

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 3>having a show where you just you talk to people,

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 3>it's really powerful ship. You don't have to be a psychiatrist,

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's it works. Some people just need like

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 3>a friend to talk to.

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Man. Yeah, absolutely, Man, I'm glad I just asked you

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>your name.

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, my name is Alex.

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>By the way, what were you gonna say, Alex?

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh No, It's just like genuinely it's been really helpful,

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:10.279
<v Speaker 3>especially like you know, this is this is stuff I've

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.280
<v Speaker 3>talked to with actual therapists, and you know, they've been helpful.

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 3>But it coming from like a conversation like this, it

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>almost can mean more in my opinion, because it's just like.

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>What did tell me? Real quick, what did your real

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>therapist tell you when you told them all this stuff?

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I think, well, for me, therapy is very more self focused,

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 3>so it was much more of a like kind of

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>wanting to like I think they I mean, at the

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 3>end the day, it really seemed like they kind of

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 3>took the same approach, like approaching why I want to

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 3>have friends, like why am I? Why am I like

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 3>still feeling sore about this? And for them, I think

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 3>in the moment like they maybe we're trying to get

0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 3>me more to focus in on finding friend like new friends,

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 3>people that I have more in common with. But they

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 3>also didn't really say to like reach out to them,

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.839
<v Speaker 3>because honestly, for right now, I just want to reach

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 3>out and even if I don't fuck with them, like,

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 3>I still want to say like I miss you and

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 3>like you know, you are a huge part of my life.

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah.

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Dude, those two things don't drive us. Don't drive yourself

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't drive yourself crazy. And don't walk around thinking

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that you have to be friends with anyone because there's

0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 1>some star city of friends things. Well, thank you, Alex,

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you for the kind words, and thanks for dealing

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:41.399
<v Speaker 1>with me yelling at you is the people before we go.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, just make sure you're taking care of

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<v Speaker 3>your mental health and you know, just take steps to

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<v Speaker 3>consider it. You know, it doesn't even have to be therapy.

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<v Speaker 3>Just go outside, take a breather, do something you enjoy,

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<v Speaker 3>find more hobbies. Just take your time, and I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to add to that. I want to add

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Don't stay up until three o'clock in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning browsing the Wikipedia page for human rights violations in

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<v Speaker 1>Sudan like I did last Yeah, that is not good

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<v Speaker 1>for your mental health.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo, up top man. I've been watching I've been watching

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 3>deep sea videos. I stayed up till five in the

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.879
<v Speaker 3>morning watching like deep sea oddities. That's a shout out

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<v Speaker 3>right there. Sorry, but it's like, dude, this account, it's

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 3>just deep sea ro o V footage. It's crazy, like

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 3>it sounds better than it sounds amazing. No, definitely, just

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you're just watch. Just just find your interests. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'll leave to people. And find interests that make

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<v Speaker 3>you happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and hopefully those interests are not people you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't stay up until four o'clock in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>watching people jump off of buildings on weird subreddits by

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<v Speaker 1>Alex I'll talk to you soon, man, Thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>What a nice kid. He seems like he can still

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<v Speaker 1>be saved. God is coming for all of us. I

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<v Speaker 1>know this because I've talked to him. Personally, and he

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>told me as much. And I think he's gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>Alex because he's a sweet guy. Thank you for calling, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you. Thanks for being nice to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. I hope things go good with your friend.

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't stay up until four o'clock in the morning. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading about the financial crisis of two thousand and eight

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>on Wikipedia, which somehow leads you to the Wikipedia page

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<v Speaker 1>for SpongeBob Battle for Bikini Bottom on Xbox.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all from Hello, hey, darn doing all right?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you go?

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<v Speaker 4>Doing good? And I just wanted to, you know, say,

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<v Speaker 4>first off, I appreciate what you do, you know, just

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 4>talking to average joes and and keeping the fish Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Vibe, you know, great reference adult swims, fish Center Christ

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<v Speaker 1>rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fucking trying my goddamn best here to do. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>this is, man, I don't even know, but thanks, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for calling, Thanks for humoring me in this.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, man? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Not much? I'm a musician sort of hitting the sort

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<v Speaker 4>of hitting the creative block right now. But I learned

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<v Speaker 4>that I got a dog and he's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Why what what?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of creative block are we talking here?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I got I got all the gear ever wanted. My

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 4>boss at my workplace, he's got a mastering studio, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just, oh no, I can't seem to pump out

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<v Speaker 4>tracks or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I have an idea. You know the beat you

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<v Speaker 1>know the Beatles. Yeah, why don't you just do that?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a real yeah, I should They they had.

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<v Speaker 1>They were pretty they were pretty successful doing that. Why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you just do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, they even had a they even had a

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<v Speaker 4>movie or something they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They had, they had a couple of movies. They got

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<v Speaker 1>pretty far doing that. What do you want to what

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<v Speaker 1>what in the past, what have you written songs about?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, just stuff about anxiety and general inner

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<v Speaker 4>brain stuff. But it's also like extreme metal, so you

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<v Speaker 4>can't even really tell what I'm saying other than I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I've made some post punk stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What what kind of what are you having anxiety about?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I just it's sort of like a

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<v Speaker 4>general anxiety about existing aericon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, existing is crazy. I think you know the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about having anxiety about just existing is I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I understand that it's painful, but I

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<v Speaker 1>totally get it. I would be any people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anxiety about existing. I mean, I'm jealous of them

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<v Speaker 1>they have.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I appreciate that.

0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 1>This happy, beautiful ignorance. And once you, once you're aware

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that you exist, hard to go back,

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>hard to hard to retain your ignorance. I mean, you

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>could drink a lot, but that's most doctors. I've never

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 1>had a doctor recommend that to me.

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 4>Weed's cool.

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I've never had a doctor recommend that,

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and which I haven't, but I do know that doctors

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>recommended people. It's isn't that funny? There's no medical alcohol, yeah,

0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>doctors ever alcohol has ever been used for medication, although

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I've heard it does numb pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, all right, try being the beat All right, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the Beatles. You're gonna not do alcohol. Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you anxious about existing? Is that even a question

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<v Speaker 1>that you can answer?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? I've been trying to answer that for a minute

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<v Speaker 4>with philosophy and stuff of that sort, but uh, can't

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I can't really figure it out. Still still

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 4>looking figuring it out. Maybe once I once I do

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<v Speaker 4>the Beatles. Maybe maybe they don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They seemed like they knew stuff, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they I don't know if they really did.

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<v Speaker 4>They imagine some stuff.

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 1>They imagine some stuff. You can imagine. Thing is, you

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have to know anything, but you can imagine stuff

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I mean, I guess that's what you're doing.

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>You're imagining songs. They didn't exist before, and you imagined

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>them and you made them real whatever we whatever real means.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Afraid of that?

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that. Yeah, I go back and forth on that.

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Existence gives you an anxiety. I know again, I know

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I mean, I'm not a therapist of any kind.

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a crazy guy on the internet.

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<v Speaker 4>But now you're get go, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot. I forgot that I was a get go Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I really appreciate all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I feel like I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the time when you're anxious about existing, that's why if

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<v Speaker 1>you're afraid of death, because I feel like a lot

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>of the anxiety about existing is there's a well, there's

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a there's a lot of things that could make you

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>anxious about existing. There's Uh, Okay, I exist. There's there's Okay,

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I exist, and I know I'm gonna die at some

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 1>point and maybe I kind of come to terms with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm anxious about what the hell to do in

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like I'm not trying to speed around it, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to, you know, get all the achievements I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So are you anxious about not being able to

0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 1>get all the achievements you want?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? Not really, Like I don't have to be like

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:13.680
<v Speaker 4>David Bowie or anything, but yeah, just it would be

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 4>nice to be a little more productive.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. What do you do when you're not being productive?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? Substances?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Uh is that where the weed comes in?

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I'll tell you this from my own life.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of struggled with what you're talking about for

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a long time of uh feeling like I always needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be productive and I always needed to be making

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff and doing things. And I don't know if my

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look, my ambition has gotten me to places

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<v Speaker 1>that have been really beautiful, but also it's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a been a sense of tormentation as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So word, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a tormenting thing, and I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth tormenting yourself over you know. I mean there's lots

1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of there's a lot of things that make life worth

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<v Speaker 1>living that have nothing to do with making anything, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, going for a freaking walk outside is is everything?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? You know? So, yeah, I hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll I guess if I could tell you from

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's had the had the pressure for a long

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, a while, probably for a long time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not as integral to existence as maybe

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<v Speaker 1>your brain is tricking you that it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Okay, maybe I'm put putting it on this pedestal

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<v Speaker 4>sorts the the job, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't beat yourself up, man, appreciate it. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>have another idea. I have another idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with that, ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>What the idea is. Have you ever heard of the

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<v Speaker 1>band Pink Floyd?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, why don't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I'll just do that. I do the Pink

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<v Speaker 4>Floyd and I'll do the Beatles perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most successful phone call I have ever

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<v Speaker 1>taken in the history of this show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much. I appreciate being here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for taking it, anything else you want to say

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<v Speaker 1>to the people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate what this gecko is doing, and he's a legend, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't need to say it count for duncan out.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks man, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care baby, I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to add on to that, I have been not

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<v Speaker 1>uploading stuff onto Instagram and TikTok and just playing Nintendo

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<v Speaker 1>Switch instead. Feels great. Feels great. Goes on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>taking your phone calls every night, teaching you. Thanks,