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Speaker 1: the episode.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Is this for the gek This I am? Yes, that

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Speaker 1: is me. I am. I am a man in a

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Speaker 1: gecko costume living psychedelic life.

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Speaker 2: Ah wow, is it really you? I mean the gak,

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Speaker 2: the one who's in teach.

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Speaker 1: It is me, that is the gack, That is the

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Speaker 1: one who's on Twitch. Who are you? What is your name?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Uh, my bad.

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Speaker 3: My name is David.

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Speaker 4: David.

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Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too, David. Where are you calling from?

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Speaker 2: Call me from Mexico? Well, Monterey, it's not Red North Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Nice can I can?

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe you. I cannot believe that you do

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Speaker 2: you answer the phone?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Well I don't. I it's so funny to

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Speaker 1: me that people can't believe I answered. I have nothing

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Speaker 1: else to do. I'm of course I answered the phone.

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Speaker 1: I if I there's no thing that is pressing me

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Speaker 1: with me right now, except on the with you right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I'm a little bit, I'm

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Speaker 1: a little hungry. I could be out eating a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: But I genuinely but I think being on the phone

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Speaker 1: with you right now is the best I mean the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I could be in fucking h

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Speaker 1: South America. You could keep teaching children how to read

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Speaker 1: or so. I don't even know that. I don't even

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Speaker 1: think of all the possible things doing with my life

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Speaker 1: right now on the phone with you doing this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is is at minimum in the top one hundred, I believe. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what's up, man? How you doing? What's your name again?

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Speaker 1: I forgot my name is David? David?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: What's happening?

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Speaker 4: How?

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Speaker 1: How?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: What's you live in northern Mexico? What's it like there?

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Speaker 2: It's it's well, it's it's really warm, and it's I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a really I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: so that's part of it. But I like living here

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Speaker 2: I'm about to be two years here in an apartment

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Speaker 2: I live in downtown.

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Speaker 1: You're about to move to an apartment downtown?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean, uh, it's I mean two

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you live in downtown Monterey, Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do in down. I do live in downtown Monterey, Mexico.

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Speaker 1: And what is downtown Monterey, Mexico like? Is it? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Is it like very uh? Urban? Like are there a

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Speaker 2: Lately? Yes, there has been a lot of people walking

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Speaker 2: I don't know how coronavirus did work in other places,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Mexico and well here in America

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Speaker 2: Of this you wear a mask, I think. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: mean I imagined you in my head with a little

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Speaker 1: Oh you said, like.

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Speaker 2: Not yet, like that's the way I pictured you. More

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Speaker 2: used to the term vocals, baby, But yeah, a mask, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be more fun than the fucking shitty

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Speaker 2: I was way more fun than having like stupid masks.

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Speaker 1: Actually went, I went to a Loocha thing when I

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I only did once when I was when

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Speaker 2: I was when I was skided, like when I was

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Speaker 2: like seven years old. I guess like me and a

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Speaker 2: I mean someone took this. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I'm way too nervous for this.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: So you're wrestling mat.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell me more about your life. What how old

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Speaker 2: I'm twenty three years old, nice man? What do you.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Are you in school? Do you work?

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Speaker 2: I work at a call center? Uh? You know these

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Speaker 2: So that's why I do.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, uh what what are these people call you about?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's only for dental appointments, you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like I do the appointments, I cancel

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Speaker 1: Is it fun canceling appointments? Like do you get like

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Speaker 2: But maybe no, no, no, I mean it's not that exciting.

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Speaker 2: I mean it becomes like something mechanical after you do

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Speaker 2: you do it like a few times, right. But the

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Speaker 2: funny in that work, I mean, in my eyes, lies

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Speaker 2: on the people around you. Maybe, I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So you have co workers that you

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Speaker 1: that you fuck with, that you have nice conversations with.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, I don't mean like having meaningful conversations, well,

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Speaker 2: not not necessarily having like conversations about things that I

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Speaker 2: I have something to talk about, I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 2: the thing. Maybe we could be talking about their things,

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Speaker 2: things that they like to do, or plans that they have,

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Speaker 2: or maybe my own plans. Maybe I'll mention them.

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Speaker 4: Yes as well. Or I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have this friends here, I mean, well,

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Speaker 2: it's not a friend. I'd like to reserve that term

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Speaker 2: two real friends, right, But I have this guy sitting

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Speaker 2: next to me with my companion, and we talked about.

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Speaker 1: You said companion, and you like to reserve the word

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's right, Yes, I think I didn't stop

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Speaker 2: I mean, companion sounded to me like campaignero, But no,

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Speaker 2: that's not companion, right.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But continue tell me about this guy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just talked about one piece, and I

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Speaker 2: really do like one piece a lot. I like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a manga guy or I'm not

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Speaker 2: an anima guy like two years ago. Uh, someone at

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Speaker 4: And I love it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I cued up finally to the one piece

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Speaker 2: and and I'm happy for it. I like that to

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Now this guy, all right, this guy that

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Speaker 1: you talked to one piece about, Like, you say, he's

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Speaker 1: your companion, but you wouldn't call him a friend. You

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Speaker 1: mean for for sort of a different tier. But would you, like,

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Speaker 1: would you ever would you ever ask this guy if

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Speaker 1: he wants to go fucking grab a grab a beer

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I would.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely do that. M hmm.

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Speaker 1: Do you have it? Do you have a lot of friends?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend today about it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a close friend, a friend that

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Speaker 2: I have, uh since I was since I was like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, seven or maybe eight years old. But

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Speaker 2: it's a long time. It's a long friend, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But and I told I told him that, No, I

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Speaker 2: mean I can't count them with my hands. She's with

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Speaker 2: I there's nothing to worry about. Like the friends that

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Speaker 2: I have, I mean they're enough. I mean, they're sufficient,

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Speaker 2: and I shouldn't be I don't think that I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be explaining that because I feel that.

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Speaker 1: Like that is.

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Speaker 2: Normal.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for I mean, makes sense, doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, oh, yeah, no.

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Speaker 1: That makes everything you're saying makes one hundred percent sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that you don't Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: that's what that's That's what's important, right, is that the

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Speaker 1: really really, uh you know, vibe with. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: an it's an honor to have one friend, honest to god,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's one person. It's it's in this in

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, is that your dread? Do you do you

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean i'd like I like that idea. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So thank you, man, I appreciate you listening. Are you

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'd said that I'm still a religious man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still here. There's a lot of so so

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Speaker 2: David, Oh, I don't know. Where do I think we grow?

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Speaker 2: stopped thinking about That's what it did. Like I just said,

444
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: I said, well, I'll I'll just live and that's it.

445
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: I'll worried. I'll eventually worried about that later and if

446
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: I die, then I'll die. I can control that, I gotta.

447
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: I used to repeat that to myself.

448
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: I can control that drink.

449
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: You totally can't, though, yes, I mean we cannot.

450
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

451
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: Oh used to you used to repeat yours to yourself.

452
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: I cannot control that.

453
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I cannot control that.

454
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, right right right, fascinating Michael Jackson And so

455
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: before so before my so what you were eleven years old,

456
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: so from ages so so before Michael Jackson died, you

457
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: didn't even realize or you did, like that was your

458
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: first kind of brush with Oh I'm I'm I am mortal.

459
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the ship up. I could stop existing. Yes,

460
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: it was that moment.

461
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: It was that moment.

462
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 4: M hm.

463
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: And how do you feel now about the fact that

464
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: you aren't going to exist? To you just have accepted

465
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: that you cannot control it?

466
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: Yes, I can say that I have accepted it.

467
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: Uh. I mean and I don't want to stop existing,

468
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: of course, but I mean I want to keep living.

469
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 4: And that's it.

470
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a matter of not worrying, not

471
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: to not worry about the wrong things. I think it's

472
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: more that in my head and the thing that I

473
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 2: keep repeating myself. Uh, that's what helps to accept it.

474
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. David, David, David, fascinating story. How

475
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: are you feeling right now?

476
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: Feeling good?

477
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: Uh, feel more relaxed.

478
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: Good. You were very nervous at the end. But we've

479
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: been on the phone for I think like a half

480
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: hour or something like that. Are you Are you feeling better?

481
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

482
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: I feel better.

483
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeck, I don't know.

484
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: I mean I I had the idea that I might

485
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: that I could call you eventually, that someday I'll call GEK,

486
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: maybe I'll be there for like thirty minutes an hour,

487
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: or maybe he'll never get on.

488
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 3: But uh, now that I have you here, I'm sorry.

489
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: I have to say that.

490
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: I think I thought that I could that there will

491
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: be a lot of things that I could talk to

492
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: you about that I would like to talk to you about.

493
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted to talk about

494
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: before before we go? No?

495
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you know now I realized that it was perfect.

496
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean the way it was, the things that were said, Yeah,

497
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: I mean they were they were the thing that they were.

498
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: So I well, I think that sounds super hitous, but

499
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'm happy for for what it happened, what

500
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: he was.

501
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: Oh well, I think so tell that we covered some

502
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: good ground. We got Michael Jackson making you realize that

503
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: you were gonna die. We learned about your acquaintance at

504
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, your companion at the call center.

505
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: We got to chick a fan and I feel like

506
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: I feel like, I know, I feel like I got

507
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: a nice, juicy slice of your life in here. This

508
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: was this was fun. Man, Thanks for calling and sharing.

509
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for listening, Gek, and thanks.

510
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: I think I love you man, Hey, I love you too.

511
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: Man.

512
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: You you take care any any final thoughts, feelings, or

513
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: sentiments you'd like to share before we get kick you

514
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: out of here.

515
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm happy. I'm happy.

516
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: I'm happy and good man.

517
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 2: And I'll keep you and I'll keep it.

518
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: I mean.

519
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: I'll I'll get a hold of it. I mean not

520
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: to get that's another word. That's that's not what I'm t.

521
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: You'll take that, run with it.

522
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

523
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, hold on to it for as long

524
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: as you fucking can. Man, Jesus.

525
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: Jesus, love you may thank you, Man you take care,

526
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: Love me, Gek, Bye bye mucha gulstgo.

527
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: That was David. I usually I don't say I love

528
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: you back, but I had to this time because David

529
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: is such a nice, sweet guy. He was so nice

530
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: to me, and he's such a nice guy, and I

531
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: had never in a thousand trillion fucking years thought that

532
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: any you know, folks in Monterey, Mexico would be listening

533
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: to this thing. So thank you David for calling and sharing.

534
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: All from Alex.

535
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: Alex, Hi, what's up now? Much? What are you up to?

536
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: I'm just in a VC with friends, just showing how's up?

537
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: What is there anything you want to talk about today?

538
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: Uh?

539
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wait? Yeah? Wait? Hold on? Is this while?

540
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Who did you think it was?

541
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 4: No?

542
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: I I didn't know if you were the call screener.

543
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: Holy shit, wait, I'm in like I'm in.

544
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: Well, you're a call and you're talking to me, and

545
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm screening you. So I'm somewhat of a call screener.

546
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm screening right now.

547
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: Holy ship? Oh my god?

548
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: What's up? Hey?

549
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm good. Okay, I'm good.

550
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you how you were, but I'm glad

551
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: to know that you're good.

552
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: Sorry.

553
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Sorry, don't know I said that was just being a dick,

554
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: but you know what, the thing it's fun sometimes it's

555
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: just fun. I don't know why, but anyway, what's up?

556
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: What's up?

557
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 4: Man?

558
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? Tell me all right, you're

559
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: talking to people and the thing ahead you talk all.

560
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sorry. I'm not talking to them. I'm gone,

561
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: uh fuck that, I'm here. Okay. I do have a

562
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: story and I like have a dilemma that I would

563
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: like your opinion on. Okay, it's kind of a long story,

564
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: but okay, so to.

565
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Start, tell me, okay, tell me the long story. Can

566
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: you tell me the long story in two minutes?

567
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: I'll do my best, Not really, but I'll do my best.

568
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: All right.

569
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have a childhood friend who me and

570
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: them were basically friends since like preschool probably, and we

571
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: pretty much like grew up together. But as you get older,

572
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: we started to like argue a lot and we would

573
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: clash a lot of our personality didn't get along. They're

574
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: super eccentric, and I started to kind of get more

575
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: into like going to school, high school, college. They kind

576
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 3: of started to dive into like alcohol, alcoholism, and like

577
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: just just doing a lot of drugs and ship which

578
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: at the time, like freshman year of high school. You know,

579
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: me and them, we did a lot of ship together.

580
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: But uh, this is man, I can't do this in

581
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: two minutes. Man, what yeah?

582
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: You can you? Yeah? She got Okay, you have a friend.

583
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: Your friend was getting into drugs. We're doing homework, and

584
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: then so yeah, to tell me and then just we

585
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, we said to.

586
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: Split and so uh, we started to split up, and

587
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: eventually his life kind of caught up with him and

588
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: he ended up going to jail. So the story, the

589
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: story of what he told me is really funny and interesting.

590
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: But all I know is that he lied to me

591
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: about what he was sent in for and basically was

592
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: in jail for five months or so. Uh, and he

593
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: was like at this time he would have been he

594
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: was a minor, Like he was under age. He was

595
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: like sixteen or seventeen. But I'm an mc so here

596
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: people under the age of eighteen, I think, I forget

597
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: there's an age that like, I don't know, you wouldn't

598
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: expect it. But he was basically treated as an adult.

599
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 3: So he was in jail for five months and then

600
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: he was sent to some kind of rehab camp. And

601
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: so I'm very conflicted because you know, I've left out

602
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: a lot of details, but I feel very conflicted about

603
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: it because on the one hand, this is like a

604
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: childhood friend, but and like you know, I still, like

605
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: literally like I think about him all the time, and

606
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: I want to see him again. But at the same time,

607
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: our lives are so different now than they were, like

608
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: before he got arrested, Like even before, like before he

609
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: got arrested, we were already getting like divided and arguing

610
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: about shit.

611
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, so what does this all have to

612
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: do with you?

613
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: Well, for me currently, I'm not a person has like

614
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: a lot of friends. I mean, you know, I I

615
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: just graduated from like a community college, like you know,

616
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: I was going during COVID, so not really needing a

617
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: lot of people. So my my list of friends is

618
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: rather low, like I have some I have some online friends,

619
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: but you know, in general, at least for in person,

620
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: this was a very like.

621
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt you real quick. I'm gonna

622
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: interrupt you real quick. Okay, I'm gonna try to summarize

623
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: this thing. You have this for. How old are you?

624
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm twenty one, you're.

625
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: Twenty one, okay. And this friend Hell is his friends.

626
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: We're the same age, Like he was born like two

627
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: weeks before me.

628
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: So okay, that's cute that you guys know each other's birthdays. Yeah, okay,

629
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: And do you guys live in the same state?

630
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: Yes, so well, ideally U in the same city that

631
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: I know of, For all I know, he could be

632
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: across the country by now, like I.

633
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Know, wait a minute, So is this guy still in jail?

634
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: No?

635
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. So he went to that rehab? Shit,

636
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 3: do you want me to preface? Because I think I

637
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: should tell you, at the very least like what he

638
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 3: lied about, because it's kind of it adds a layer

639
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: to this. Okay, Okay, So he told me, I'll just

640
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: say that he he told me that he was arrested

641
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: for bootlegging. I told you he was eccentric. I won't

642
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: get into it. But he was arrested for bootlegging, and

643
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: it turned out that he actually was sent to a

644
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: sex rehab. And the thing is, why would you get

645
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 3: sent to a sex rehab for bootlegging? Now, let me preface.

646
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: Bootlegging is definitely the type of crime that he would

647
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: have committed. So it actually is believable because he did

648
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: make his own alcohol. So okay, yeah, but the sex

649
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: crime thing, you know, that's that's a big thing. I mean,

650
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: he was sent to a kind of rehab camp. That's

651
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: all I really know.

652
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: It was like Mormon was in Utah, are you guys Mormons?

653
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. I'm actually as far

654
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: from religious currently than I've ever been in my life.

655
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, here's here's why.

656
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: Here's why I asked you to explain it in two minutes.

657
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't just being I mean, I was being a

658
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: dick a little bit, but I don't think I was

659
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: just being a dick because that he's ultimately well, because

660
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: here's the thing, is the crux of this issue. I

661
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: find I'm not a genius of any kind, but I

662
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: always find that, like when it comes to stuff like this,

663
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: the the you know, the crux of the issues never

664
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: in the details, It's in the macro. So look, do

665
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: you so you know? Is this guy's in jail?

666
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: No?

667
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: So I for no. He came back. I think a

668
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: couple I would say, two or three years ago, So

669
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: it's been it's been a while.

670
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: Do you have the desire to be friends with him?

671
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: Because let me tell you this. Let me tell you this.

672
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: I when I I when you were, when you were

673
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: talking about it earlier, you were saying, I'm low on

674
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: friends and wanting to be friends with somebody because you

675
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: don't have anyone else. Is a terrible reason to be

676
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: friends with somebody.

677
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

678
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a terrible reason being friends with somebody out

679
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: of scarce. There's eight billion people on the planet Earth.

680
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: Wanting to be friends with somebody because you don't have

681
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: anyone else to talk to is a terrible reason. So

682
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: I hope you're not wanting to be friends with him

683
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: for that reason. Well, if you love the look, if

684
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: you love this guy and you want to be friends

685
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: with him, that's a different story.

686
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, And you know, very often I hear

687
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Oh, well, you know when you get older,

688
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: it's harder to make friends. And you know that might

689
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: be true, that might not.

690
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a lie. That's all. It's the

691
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: same amount of difficulty to make friends, at least, I believe,

692
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: at any age. And I could go into I could

693
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: go into all this stuff, but let's focus on this

694
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: one friend that you have.

695
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: I've just never really had any best friends. I haven't.

696
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: You know, this was a childhood friend. You know, if

697
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: I needed to hang out with someone, it would be them.

698
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: I would sleep over at their house like every fucking weekend,

699
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: you know. So it's hard.

700
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: It's a hard rather okay too. I'm sorry. I'm sorry

701
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: I keep interrupting you, but I want to hang in

702
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: on this just real quick. You shouldn't be friends with

703
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: this person just because you need friends. And you also

704
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't be friends with this person just because you guys

705
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: used to be friends.

706
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

707
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Right, So like, look, i'm asking you. I'm not asking you.

708
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm not asking sixteen year old you. I'm asking you

709
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: as an adult. Do you want to be friends with

710
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: this guy?

711
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think so.

712
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: All right, Well then then you don't have to be Yeah.

713
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: Should I talk to him? Should I reach out at

714
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 3: least and just say, like, because I just feel bad

715
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: ending of friendship like that, because I haven't really I

716
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: don't know. That's something that kind of lingers. I feel

717
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: like it's like an open wound kind of thing.

718
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: Okay, should you reach out to him? I mean, yeah, sure?

719
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: Why not?

720
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: M Yeah? Yeah? And I think I mean, I think

721
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I think I could still be friends

722
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: with them. It's just I need to know what their

723
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: current life is like, because that's the thing. Is the

724
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: only reason I'm still hesitant is because it seems like

725
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: he hasn't tried to fix his life because the only

726
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 3: time that he would reach out to me after getting

727
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: back from jail, if he would like ask, hey, what's up.

728
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: You want to smoke? You want to do some shit?

729
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: And you know, by the time he got out, I

730
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: was so far past from my days of just like

731
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: you know, just like smoking and drinking and just like

732
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 3: wandering the streets and shit. Like I'm I'm so far

733
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: past that now. So like just thinking about if that's

734
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: what he expects, you know, I'm not. I'm not for

735
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: it in any way. But yeah, so.

736
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Look, man, if you want to reach out to this guy,

737
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: then then I guess I just what's bothering What's bothering

738
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: me is like the melodrama behind it, which seems to

739
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: be stemming from and I'm playing for tent therapist here,

740
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: but it seems to be stemming from living in the past, Yeah,

741
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: and clinging to it and this like scarcity mindset that

742
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: you have towards friends. Yeah, but like look if again,

743
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: there look some people. Look, there's some folks like I

744
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: have I have friends. I have I have a friend

745
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: that I hung out with very recently who I hadn't

746
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: spoken to in god like six years or something like that. Well,

747
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, look, I love I love them. I love

748
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: that guy, and when we hung out it was great

749
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: and I love him. And you know, that's how a

750
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: lot of my friendships are. There's a lot of people

751
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to in a long time that you know,

752
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: if I saw them, I would look at me and

753
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: I tell them I love them. I really do. And

754
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: that's what I feel. And like, look, dude, if you

755
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: love this guy and you want to hang out with

756
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: them and be friends with them, then you know, I

757
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: just I'm I'm frustrated right now because I don't you're

758
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: I don't see why you're complicating this so much.

759
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: I understand, I understand. It's just hard. I think I

760
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: think that it's yeah, I I go. You mean, it's

761
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: it's been a very like should I or should I

762
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: not kind of thing, and I just like way like

763
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: the pros and cons. But I think if I stop

764
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: over complicating it, like you know, I like, like you said,

765
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: I love the guy, you know, uh, and I do

766
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: miss him. It's just uh, I just want to know

767
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: how he's doing in terms of like if he Yeah,

768
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: I think you.

769
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Get it, like, like, yes, so this is the thing

770
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: is you're running I guess what's it's you're running around

771
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: in circles here, and it's like and it's like, what,

772
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't you're running around in circles around yourself, like

773
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: debating whether or not you should send a text or

774
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: hang out with a guy. You're not getting married to

775
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: this man. Yeah, you know, you're not committing. It's like

776
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's you shouldn't drive yourself so crazy

777
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: debating whether or not to send a dude a text

778
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: or hang out with him once. Yeah, you know, it's

779
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: a very low amount of commitment.

780
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely am. I'm sorry.

781
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: Don't be sorry. I hope don't be sorry. I hope

782
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: that this conversation is helping you realize that.

783
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

784
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: No, I think it's helpful to you. Don't have to

785
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: be sorry.

786
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's no, it's really grounding, like I think,

787
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: at least for me, and I think other people like

788
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: anxiety and ship will like agree. It's just like these

789
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 3: kinds of relationships we have with people, it's very easy

790
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: to kind of fall into this trap of making it

791
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: look and it make it feel like it's way more

792
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: to deal with than it really is. Like when I

793
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: could just be straight up with them and just you know,

794
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: just reach out and say something or even just like

795
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: get some lunch or some ship.

796
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's look again, I hope, I hope

797
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: if if you look, if you come away with anything

798
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: from from this, with anything, it's that you know, brother,

799
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: you you know, you're twenty one, Like, you can go.

800
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: You can if you really want to, you can go

801
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: make other friends. I hate this. I hate the mindset.

802
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: You should you should rid yourself of this mindset that

803
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: you have to be friends with anybody because there's a

804
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: shortage of people that will be your friend, you know.

805
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: That's Yeah, that's one thing I I I would I'd

806
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: love to see you not be walking around with in

807
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: your head.

808
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

809
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: Well, and then and then the other thing is you're

810
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: you're driving yourself crazy. I can I can hear. I

811
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: can hear in your voice, especially the fact that you

812
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 1: were like, you know, even the fact that you said

813
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: you couldn't sum this up into two minutes. It's again,

814
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: it's a decision of whether or not to send it

815
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: to the text or or or hang out with him.

816
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: You're you're not debating whether or not to testify against

817
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: him in court. Okay, you're not. You're not debated whether

818
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: or not you want to, you know, go with him

819
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: to to rob a bank or anything like that. Okay,

820
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: this is just whether or not you want to get lunch

821
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: with a guy or shoot him at next you know.

822
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: It's it's not as life and death of a thing

823
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: as you're making notes to be, at least from my perspective.

824
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: Well I'm stupid. Yeah, shit, but that's just what you're

825
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: telling me.

826
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think I will clarify though with the

827
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: I think I might have kind of worded it wrong.

828
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: But I think for me, I have a lot of

829
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: friendships that I've known these people since like elementary school,

830
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: Like like I would say probably like fifty percent of

831
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: my friends currently are people that I've known for over

832
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: like ten to fifteen years. So when I lose a

833
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: friend like this, it's very hard. And I don't think

834
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: it's I'm trying to say that like, oh, well, I

835
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: want more friends. I want friendships that like that, where

836
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: I've just known the person for.

837
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: So I mean, by what do you mean by you?

838
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: How did you lose this guy as as a friend?

839
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: So how long has it been since you spoke to him?

840
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: Probably like five years, five, six.

841
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: Years, five or six years.

842
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, my time span might be messy, but it's

843
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: it's been quite some time since we've like actually like

844
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: called and like spoken like voice.

845
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Give give this, give this a call. It's like it's

846
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: weighing on your mind. It's weighing on your mind so

847
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: heavily it just give him a call. Jeezus, it's not

848
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: a it's not a again, it's this. This is not You're

849
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: not going you're not committing to a marriage with this man. Okay,

850
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: If it's weighing on your mind so heavily, then yeah,

851
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: you give him man a call.

852
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: Sorry, mister Gek. I have something to say though, just

853
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: like you know, you say that you're not like smart

854
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 3: or whatever, and I do think it's good to preface

855
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: like you know, you're not like a license or whatever.

856
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: But I do think you do a lot of good.

857
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I think I appreciate that.

858
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know you you probably hear that all.

859
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: The time, but well, I you know, I well I

860
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you. And what's your name again, Alex? Thank you Alex.

861
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I've been I've been what's the world maybe terse with you?

862
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Over the course of this phone apologize for that, but

863
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm invested in this and I can

864
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: also I can see your brain going crazy, and I'm

865
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: hoping that being terseed with you has helped your brain

866
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: to go what's crazy? I know that, And when I

867
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: go crazy, I I like somebody smacking me in the

868
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: face and going, dude, you're going crazy.

869
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

870
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you saying we said I say that

871
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: stuff because you know, because when somebody clips me saying

872
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: two contradictory things to somebody, which I'm sure I do,

873
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: I have I I have what's the word, I have

874
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: protection against my sof I can go. I declared that

875
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: I would. I declared that I was stupid. Okay, grants

876
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: me immunity against all the stupid things that I say.

877
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: But it's genuinely, I think, at least for me, because

878
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: I'm actually I don't want to take up much more

879
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: of your time, but I'm like one, I want to

880
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: become a therapist in the future. Like I just graduated

881
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: community college. I'm about to go to like a university,

882
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: so you know, it's seeing like I don't know, this

883
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: is like the most boomer show imaginable. But have you

884
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 3: heard of like Fraser the TV show.

885
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fraser. I've never actually watched an episode like that show.

886
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: It definitely kind of leans too much into like the

887
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: posh humor, like oh we're which we can laugh about

888
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. But just in terms of like

889
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: having a show where you just you talk to people,

890
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 3: it's really powerful ship. You don't have to be a psychiatrist,

891
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: you know, it's it works. Some people just need like

892
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: a friend to talk to.

893
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, absolutely, Man, I'm glad I just asked you

894
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: your name.

895
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, my name is Alex.

896
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: By the way, what were you gonna say, Alex?

897
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: Oh No, It's just like genuinely it's been really helpful,

898
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: especially like you know, this is this is stuff I've

899
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: talked to with actual therapists, and you know, they've been helpful.

900
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: But it coming from like a conversation like this, it

901
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: almost can mean more in my opinion, because it's just like.

902
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: What did tell me? Real quick, what did your real

903
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: therapist tell you when you told them all this stuff?

904
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: I think, well, for me, therapy is very more self focused,

905
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: so it was much more of a like kind of

906
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: wanting to like I think they I mean, at the

907
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: end the day, it really seemed like they kind of

908
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: took the same approach, like approaching why I want to

909
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: have friends, like why am I? Why am I like

910
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: still feeling sore about this? And for them, I think

911
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: in the moment like they maybe we're trying to get

912
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: me more to focus in on finding friend like new friends,

913
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: people that I have more in common with. But they

914
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: also didn't really say to like reach out to them,

915
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: because honestly, for right now, I just want to reach

916
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: out and even if I don't fuck with them, like,

917
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: I still want to say like I miss you and

918
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: like you know, you are a huge part of my life.

919
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah.

920
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: Dude, those two things don't drive us. Don't drive yourself

921
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't drive yourself crazy. And don't walk around thinking

922
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: that you have to be friends with anyone because there's

923
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: some star city of friends things. Well, thank you, Alex,

924
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: thank you for the kind words, and thanks for dealing

925
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: with me yelling at you is the people before we go.

926
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: You know what, just make sure you're taking care of

927
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: your mental health and you know, just take steps to

928
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: consider it. You know, it doesn't even have to be therapy.

929
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: Just go outside, take a breather, do something you enjoy,

930
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: find more hobbies. Just take your time, and I just.

931
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: I want to add to that. I want to add

932
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: to that. Don't stay up until three o'clock in the

933
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: morning browsing the Wikipedia page for human rights violations in

934
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: Sudan like I did last Yeah, that is not good

935
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: for your mental health.

936
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: Yo, up top man. I've been watching I've been watching

937
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: deep sea videos. I stayed up till five in the

938
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 3: morning watching like deep sea oddities. That's a shout out

939
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: right there. Sorry, but it's like, dude, this account, it's

940
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: just deep sea ro o V footage. It's crazy, like

941
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: it sounds better than it sounds amazing. No, definitely, just

942
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: whenever you're just watch. Just just find your interests. That's

943
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: what I'll leave to people. And find interests that make

944
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: you happy.

945
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Yes, and hopefully those interests are not people you know.

946
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: So don't stay up until four o'clock in the morning

947
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: watching people jump off of buildings on weird subreddits by

948
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: Alex I'll talk to you soon, man, Thank you, thank

949
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: you so much.

950
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: Bye.

951
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: What a nice kid. He seems like he can still

952
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: be saved. God is coming for all of us. I

953
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: know this because I've talked to him. Personally, and he

954
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: told me as much. And I think he's gonna say

955
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: Alex because he's a sweet guy. Thank you for calling, man,

956
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: and thank you. Thanks for being nice to me. I

957
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I hope things go good with your friend.

958
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: Don't stay up until four o'clock in the morning. I'm

959
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: reading about the financial crisis of two thousand and eight

960
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: on Wikipedia, which somehow leads you to the Wikipedia page

961
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: for SpongeBob Battle for Bikini Bottom on Xbox.

962
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: All right, all from Hello, hey, darn doing all right?

963
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: How are you go?

964
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 4: Doing good? And I just wanted to, you know, say,

965
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 4: first off, I appreciate what you do, you know, just

966
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 4: talking to average joes and and keeping the fish Center.

967
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: Vibe, you know, great reference adult swims, fish Center Christ

968
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: rest in peace.

969
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 4: Thanks man.

970
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm fucking trying my goddamn best here to do. Whatever

971
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: this is, man, I don't even know, but thanks, thanks

972
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: for calling, Thanks for humoring me in this.

973
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

974
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: What's up, man? What's going on?

975
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 4: Not much? I'm a musician sort of hitting the sort

976
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: of hitting the creative block right now. But I learned

977
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 4: that I got a dog and he's pretty cool.

978
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 1: Why what what?

979
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: What?

980
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: Kind of creative block are we talking here?

981
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: I don't know.

982
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 4: I got I got all the gear ever wanted. My

983
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: boss at my workplace, he's got a mastering studio, and

984
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: I just, oh no, I can't seem to pump out

985
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 4: tracks or whatnot.

986
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: Hey, I have an idea. You know the beat you

987
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: know the Beatles. Yeah, why don't you just do that?

988
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 4: That's a real yeah, I should They they had.

989
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: They were pretty they were pretty successful doing that. Why

990
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: didn't you just do that?

991
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they even had a they even had a

992
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 4: movie or something they did.

993
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: They had, they had a couple of movies. They got

994
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: pretty far doing that. What do you want to what

995
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: what in the past, what have you written songs about?

996
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, just stuff about anxiety and general inner

997
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: brain stuff. But it's also like extreme metal, so you

998
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: can't even really tell what I'm saying other than I

999
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: guess I've made some post punk stuff.

1000
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: What what kind of what are you having anxiety about?

1001
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just it's sort of like a

1002
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 4: general anxiety about existing aericon.

1003
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, existing is crazy. I think you know the thing

1004
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: about having anxiety about just existing is I mean, look,

1005
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: I you know, I understand that it's painful, but I

1006
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: totally get it. I would be any people who don't

1007
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: have anxiety about existing. I mean, I'm jealous of them

1008
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: they have.

1009
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: Yes, I appreciate that.

1010
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: This happy, beautiful ignorance. And once you, once you're aware

1011
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: of the fact that you exist, hard to go back,

1012
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: hard to hard to retain your ignorance. I mean, you

1013
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: could drink a lot, but that's most doctors. I've never

1014
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: had a doctor recommend that to me.

1015
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: Weed's cool.

1016
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I've never had a doctor recommend that,

1017
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: and which I haven't, but I do know that doctors

1018
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: recommended people. It's isn't that funny? There's no medical alcohol, yeah,

1019
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: doctors ever alcohol has ever been used for medication, although

1020
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: I've heard it does numb pain.

1021
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard that.

1022
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: Well, all right, try being the beat All right, you're

1023
00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the Beatles. You're gonna not do alcohol. Why

1024
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: are you anxious about existing? Is that even a question

1025
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: that you can answer?

1026
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 4: Oh? I've been trying to answer that for a minute

1027
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 4: with philosophy and stuff of that sort, but uh, can't

1028
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 4: you know, I can't really figure it out. Still still

1029
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: looking figuring it out. Maybe once I once I do

1030
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: the Beatles. Maybe maybe they don't know.

1031
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: They seemed like they knew stuff, but I don't know

1032
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: if they I don't know if they really did.

1033
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: They imagine some stuff.

1034
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: They imagine some stuff. You can imagine. Thing is, you

1035
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: don't have to know anything, but you can imagine stuff

1036
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, I guess that's what you're doing.

1037
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: You're imagining songs. They didn't exist before, and you imagined

1038
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: them and you made them real whatever we whatever real means.

1039
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: I mean, are you.

1040
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: Afraid of that?

1041
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Yeah, I go back and forth on that.

1042
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: Existence gives you an anxiety. I know again, I know

1043
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, I'm not a therapist of any kind.

1044
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm a crazy guy on the internet.

1045
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: But now you're get go, right.

1046
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: I forgot. I forgot that I was a get go Hmmm.

1047
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: No, I really appreciate all that.

1048
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I feel like a lot of

1049
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: the time when you're anxious about existing, that's why if

1050
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: you're afraid of death, because I feel like a lot

1051
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: of the anxiety about existing is there's a well, there's

1052
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of things that could make you

1053
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: anxious about existing. There's Uh, Okay, I exist. There's there's Okay,

1054
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: I exist, and I know I'm gonna die at some

1055
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: point and maybe I kind of come to terms with that,

1056
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: but I'm anxious about what the hell to do in

1057
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: the meantime.

1058
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'm not trying to speed around it, but

1059
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: I'm trying to, you know, get all the achievements I want.

1060
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So are you anxious about not being able to

1061
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: get all the achievements you want?

1062
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 4: Uh? Not really, Like I don't have to be like

1063
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: David Bowie or anything, but yeah, just it would be

1064
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: nice to be a little more productive.

1065
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What do you do when you're not being productive?

1066
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 4: Uh? Substances?

1067
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: Okay? Uh is that where the weed comes in?

1068
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1069
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'll tell you this from my own life.

1070
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: I kind of struggled with what you're talking about for

1071
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: a long time of uh feeling like I always needed

1072
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: to be productive and I always needed to be making

1073
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: stuff and doing things. And I don't know if my

1074
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, look, my ambition has gotten me to places

1075
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: that have been really beautiful, but also it's it's been

1076
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: a been a sense of tormentation as well.

1077
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: So word, Yeah.

1078
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: It's been a tormenting thing, and I don't think it's

1079
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: worth tormenting yourself over you know. I mean there's lots

1080
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of things that make life worth

1081
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: living that have nothing to do with making anything, you know.

1082
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean, going for a freaking walk outside is is everything?

1083
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 4: Uh? You know? So, yeah, I hear that.

1084
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: So I'll I guess if I could tell you from

1085
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: someone who's had the had the pressure for a long

1086
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: for you know, a while, probably for a long time. Uh,

1087
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's not as integral to existence as maybe

1088
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: your brain is tricking you that it is.

1089
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, maybe I'm put putting it on this pedestal

1090
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 4: sorts the the job, I guess.

1091
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't beat yourself up, man, appreciate it. Oh, I

1092
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: have another idea. I have another idea.

1093
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, with that, ask me.

1094
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: What the idea is. Have you ever heard of the

1095
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: band Pink Floyd?

1096
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't you.

1097
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: Just do that?

1098
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll just do that. I do the Pink

1099
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 4: Floyd and I'll do the Beatles perfect.

1100
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: This is the most successful phone call I have ever

1101
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: taken in the history of this show.

1102
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I appreciate being here for it.

1103
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking it, anything else you want to say

1104
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.

1105
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 4: I appreciate what this gecko is doing, and he's a legend, obviously,

1106
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 4: I don't need to say it count for duncan out.

1107
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate it.

1108
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: Take care baby, I appreciate you.

1109
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Thanks to add on to that, I have been not

1110
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: uploading stuff onto Instagram and TikTok and just playing Nintendo

1111
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: Switch instead. Feels great. Feels great. Goes on the line,

1112
01:02:51,240 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: taking your phone calls every night, teaching you. Thanks,