Speaker 1: Hey, is this Jay Jay? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1: What are you up to?
Speaker 2: So? Yeah, there were some things that I've done as
Speaker 2: a child, like to get over and forgive myself for
Speaker 2: for a long time, but it's been hard.
Speaker 1: Okay. So you did some things as a child and
Speaker 1: you're trying to forgive yourself for them. Listen throughout urs call.
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me what those things are.
Speaker 1: But how old were you when you did them?
Speaker 2: I'd say younger than twelve? Around twelve is when it stopped.
Speaker 1: Okay. So you did some things as a child when
Speaker 1: you were around twelve, and you're having trouble forgiving yourself.
Speaker 1: Why do you believe you're having trouble forgiving yourself?
Speaker 2: It's so fucked up shit, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is is this something you've ever talked to a real
Speaker 1: therapist about?
Speaker 2: No, I've never told anybody else.
Speaker 1: You never told anybody about this stuff?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. It's way too like heavy.
Speaker 1: Okay. And this was when you were when you were
Speaker 1: twelve years old?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wrong, man?
Speaker 1: Okay? And how old are you now? I'm Sony Files,
Speaker 1: you're twenty five. What do you do now with your life.
Speaker 2: Other than working at a dog daycare now much, man,
Speaker 2: I'm just trunning in my life together.
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, listen, man, you know the nature of
Speaker 1: what you did. Do you feel as though there's anything
Speaker 1: that you can do in your adult life to kind
Speaker 1: of offset what you have done in the past or
Speaker 1: kind of help yourself contribute to a solution to any
Speaker 1: problems you feel you might have caused.
Speaker 2: That's the well. Yeah, I'd love to end up helping
Speaker 2: people who like struggled with the same things I have. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and like be a guidance that people dealt with some
Speaker 2: of the things I have and help some of the
Speaker 2: people that I guess need it because I don't know, ma'am.
Speaker 2: I'm doing it's all by myself, so I just I
Speaker 2: know how hard it is. So I just love to
Speaker 2: be there and help others.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 1: When you say you're doing this all by yourself, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's okay, man. I mean when you say you're doing
Speaker 1: this all by yourself, what do you think would help you?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you do you have friends
Speaker 1: or family or significant other or any you know, professional
Speaker 1: resources that they not have tapped into and any of
Speaker 1: any of that.
Speaker 2: Definitely never seen a therapist or anything like that. So
Speaker 2: other than that, not really stuff I want to be
Speaker 2: talking of family about because I feel like there's no
Speaker 2: real understanding that.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, do you do you have the means to
Speaker 1: go see a therapist?
Speaker 2: Can you explain what means being sorry?
Speaker 1: Like, uh, you know, I mean, look, it can be
Speaker 1: it can be kind of a difficult thing. I know
Speaker 1: that there's kind of various ways for people who feel
Speaker 1: like they cannot afford it or find it to get well.
Speaker 2: I have to talk about this, and I just I
Speaker 2: just never try it, honestly.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I look, again, I don't know what you did,
Speaker 1: but it sounds as though you're beaten up about the
Speaker 1: fact that you're well. It sounds as though you're beaten
Speaker 1: up about the fact that you haven't even talked about
Speaker 1: it with anyone or been able to process it. And
Speaker 1: and you've been carrying it for thirteen years, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and I feel like it would be helpful
Speaker 1: for you to, you know, talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just talking to you now is like helped me
Speaker 2: to realize like how deep it is. So thank you
Speaker 2: for packing up.
Speaker 1: Man, for sure, Jay, I mean this idea of you
Speaker 1: kind of accepting whatever it is. I mean, listen, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you did when you were twelve, and
Speaker 1: I'm imagining to me even the most horrible thing. I
Speaker 1: I mean, if you were twelve years old, I don't
Speaker 1: know what your upbringing was, I don't know what your
Speaker 1: environment was like. But I can't imagine whatever it is
Speaker 1: that that that that you did when you were twelve
Speaker 1: to to to be affecting you, to to to be
Speaker 1: justifiably defining your life for the rest of your days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't think it should and I
Speaker 1: don't even I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 2: Uh, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it should define.
Speaker 2: Can share your life, but if you'd rather me not share,
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think you should talk about
Speaker 1: it on here. I think if this is something that
Speaker 1: you haven't talked to with anyone about, I think you
Speaker 1: should go and find a find a real therapist to
Speaker 1: talk to about.
Speaker 2: It, for sure.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it should be something that defines
Speaker 1: your life, because I mean, look, I'm talking to you
Speaker 1: right now, you're twenty five. You as it stands currently
Speaker 1: in the present, I have a desire to do good,
Speaker 1: have a desire to help people, just like you said.
Speaker 1: Just like you said, you have a desire to help
Speaker 1: people who are struggling with things that you say you've
Speaker 1: struggled with throughout your life. And so I think to
Speaker 1: negate and throw away you as a person just because
Speaker 1: of something you did when you were twelve, whatever it was,
Speaker 1: would would be a waste of this positive energy that
Speaker 1: you have that you desire to throw out there. I'll
Speaker 1: say that much. And I think I think you should go.
Speaker 1: I think you should go try to find a person
Speaker 1: to talk through this with.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only thing that's like held me from like seeking
Speaker 2: help is just the fact that knowing that I'd probably
Speaker 2: have to go through several therapists to find one that
Speaker 2: I really liked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I've had a lot of people say
Speaker 1: that that, you know, they had to they had to
Speaker 1: kind of cycle through a whole bunch of people to
Speaker 1: find someone that they, you know, trust and feel connected with.
Speaker 2: As well as the other thing being that I don't
Speaker 2: want to go see help when they throw me on mets,
Speaker 2: so I'd just rather deal with the stuff on my own.
Speaker 1: M How are you feeling right now, Jay?
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm good. Just thinking about that a little bit,
Speaker 2: bout some emotions up, but I'm getting over it.
Speaker 1: Mmm. I'm you know, I'll say it again. I think
Speaker 1: my main thesis here is that you have, like I said,
Speaker 1: a positive intention with your life right now, and I
Speaker 1: don't think you should throw that away because of you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you did, whatever your life was like when you
Speaker 1: were twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna go see some help.
Speaker 1: Okay, good man. Is there anything else that you want
Speaker 1: to say to people of the computer, or that you
Speaker 1: wanted to say to me, or that you feel like
Speaker 1: we didn't cover.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a ton right now I'm blanking, But
Speaker 2: to the viewers, if anybody's out there shogging or something,
Speaker 2: I'm just want you to know that everything will pass.
Speaker 2: You just got to ride the wave and keep fighting.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for calling jam nice talking night. Man.
Speaker 1: I like Jay. He's a good guy. I didn't want him.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did. I'm not even going
Speaker 1: to try to guess or imagine. I mean, look, if
Speaker 1: the guy was twelve, and if the guy you know,
Speaker 1: felt as though he was struggling with things in his
Speaker 1: life or had a childhood that was not great. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I am confident that who he is now in
Speaker 1: the present is someone who wants to do good. And
Speaker 1: I hope he does that because that's only really a
Speaker 1: net positive for society if he does. And I hope
Speaker 1: he finds some kind of a help and way to
Speaker 1: talk through that stuff. Hello. Hello, Hi, who is this?
Speaker 2: You're talking to Tony?
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Tony. What's going on? Tony?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: That's Tony mcarniy is the who name?
Speaker 1: Tony Mcaroni? Yep, So Tony Macaroni? What's go? What's going
Speaker 1: on with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Just eating eating?
Speaker 1: Man, you're eating? What are you eating?
Speaker 5: Cheeseburgers?
Speaker 1: You're eating cheese? But how many cheeseburgers are you eating?
Speaker 2: I got?
Speaker 1: You have a few? How many is a few? I
Speaker 1: feel like when people say a few, they mean at
Speaker 1: least three.
Speaker 5: I mean, I got, I got at least six.
Speaker 1: Six is not a few? Six is I would I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would consider that several. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: consider it a handful because they're a little bit big
Speaker 1: for the hand. But I think six several I would
Speaker 1: say I I would say six is right on the
Speaker 1: line of being several. I feel like seven would be
Speaker 1: several because they both have the set. But six is
Speaker 1: close to several cheeseburgers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know wrong, man.
Speaker 5: Look, I just went I just went down to the
Speaker 5: cheeseburger store and I ordered some cheeseburgers. They handed me
Speaker 5: a bag, and I'll eat cheeseburgers.
Speaker 1: What do you mean the cheeseburger store? Is it called that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? If you go down and get the cheeseburger, do.
Speaker 1: They have anything else? Do they have chicken sandwiches or
Speaker 1: fries or strictly cheese.
Speaker 5: Cheeseburgers?
Speaker 1: Okay? How often do you do visit the cheeseburger store?
Speaker 5: A few times?
Speaker 1: Once or twice, once or twice a day a week,
Speaker 1: a month.
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, probably a day.
Speaker 1: Once a day. Okay. What so, Tony, When you're not
Speaker 1: eating cheeseburgers, Tony, So, Tony Macaronie, When you're not eating cheeseburgers,
Speaker 1: what do you do with your your life?
Speaker 5: I'm usually just sitting there staring at the wall.
Speaker 1: You sit and you stare at the wall. When you
Speaker 1: sit and you stare at the wall. What do you
Speaker 1: think about?
Speaker 5: Think about cheeseburgers?
Speaker 1: Man, you think about cheeseburgers. So you're telling me, Tony Macaroni,
Speaker 1: that you are either eating cheeseburgers or thinking about them, yes, constantly? Okay?
Speaker 1: Uh do you work? Do you go to school? How
Speaker 1: do you make money to buy these cheeseburgers?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I gotta go, though, I think you don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't have to know. You know, you
Speaker 1: don't have Tony. You don't have to go, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony,
Speaker 1: you are Tony. You do not have to go. We're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna keep I'm not letting you. Don't be
Speaker 1: a coward. Tony, sit in this with me. You have
Speaker 1: created this, and you need to answer for this.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: You cannot just bail You cannot bail yourself out of this.
Speaker 1: You cannot bail yourself out of this by saying you
Speaker 1: have to go. Just Tony, for once in your life,
Speaker 1: don't abandon a thing that you've created. Sit in it,
Speaker 1: see where it goes. It could this could turn into
Speaker 1: something productive, Tony, if you just just don't abandon it. Okay,
Speaker 1: will you agree to that.
Speaker 5: I gotta go, man.
Speaker 1: I know you, Tony. You don't have to go, Tony,
Speaker 1: you do not have to go. Just you created this situation.
Speaker 1: And I am telling you. He hung up. It could
Speaker 1: have gone somewhere. Folks, listen if you he bailed out.
Speaker 1: He got scared and he bailed out. Why would you
Speaker 1: do that, Tony, because you ran out of stuff. You.
Speaker 1: Here's what Here's exactly what happened. Tony called in. I
Speaker 1: don't whatever his name was. He called in with a
Speaker 1: fake thing, and he was really nervous. And I s
Speaker 1: sarted asking him questions about his fake thing, and he
Speaker 1: kind of and he did have answers, but he knew
Speaker 1: that he could only answer my questions with his fake
Speaker 1: answers for so long before he would have to, like
Speaker 1: be pressed to think of more things. And that scared him,
Speaker 1: and so he bailed. And it's so it's sad to
Speaker 1: me because he it was such a play of low
Speaker 1: confidence when he could have just sat in it. And
Speaker 1: maybe if he stayed for a little bit longer than
Speaker 1: when he wanted to bail, we could have gotten something interesting.
Speaker 1: He could have learned about himself. Maybe he would tell
Speaker 1: me what his actual name was. Maybe we could have
Speaker 1: gotten him to speak about whatever's going on in his life.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what would have happened. I
Speaker 1: never will. He never will because he got scared and
Speaker 1: he bailed. If you're listening to this, folks, don't get
Speaker 1: scared and bailed. Just sitting it. It's all you feel
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous for a second. It's fine if
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna say next Tony, but
Speaker 1: just commit because you don't know what will happen. I
Speaker 1: hope he calls back one day. I really do. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 6: Is this?
Speaker 3: Gek?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is this? I'm drib drib what's going on?
Speaker 5: Drib nothing?
Speaker 3: I'm just watching your streams?
Speaker 1: Somebody? Are you? Where are you right now? Are here knocking?
Speaker 1: And all kinds of stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Those are my brother knocking my door. I'm sorry, No.
Speaker 6: What is it?
Speaker 1: Should you open it?
Speaker 2: Does he?
Speaker 1: How do? Maybe he's in pain?
Speaker 3: No, he came in here to get the bomb.
Speaker 1: He came in here to get the bong. Yeah, are
Speaker 1: you are you high right now?
Speaker 3: No? I'm not.
Speaker 4: Going to And then I was like.
Speaker 1: No, okay, I mean I feel like that's a good decision.
Speaker 1: I don't get high while I'm doing this, because if
Speaker 1: I were high while I'm doing this, I'd be I
Speaker 1: would be double thinking about everything that I say. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, to talk on a thing, you have
Speaker 1: to be able to just say stuff without even without
Speaker 1: even thinking about it, you know, or you get too anxious.
Speaker 1: All right, driblet's is there anything in particular that you
Speaker 1: called into to talk about?
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna tell a story about my dad
Speaker 3: and stepmom that happened. They kind of kicked me out.
Speaker 1: They kicked you out? What did they kick you out for?
Speaker 3: So it was like a really like minor thing, but
Speaker 3: it just got escalated into a huge thing. I was
Speaker 3: never like best friends with my stepmom, and so I
Speaker 3: one day like got into a little argument with her,
Speaker 3: and it escalated pretty quickly because we were both kind
Speaker 3: of childish and she was like in my face and
Speaker 3: I didn't like that. So I took like my fingers
Speaker 3: and like pushed your back a little. Like you pushed
Speaker 3: isn't even like a right word, because I mean what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, drip, What what was it that you guys were
Speaker 1: fighting about? Initially? What was the minor thing?
Speaker 3: My my dad earlier that morning was gonna let my
Speaker 3: brothers stay home from school because I asked him too,
Speaker 3: because my brother wasn't feeling well. And yeah, my dad
Speaker 3: basically lied and was like, oh, I never said that,
Speaker 3: and so my stepmom was to wake him up.
Speaker 1: That's kind of that's kind of that's that's nice of
Speaker 1: you to, uh, my guess act on behalf of your brother.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, between that and the bong,
Speaker 1: you guys have a good relationship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Kay, your step mom goes to wake up the brother,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he was supposed to stay home from school,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It's kind of a minor thing. You
Speaker 1: kind of push your step mom. Things get mildly physical.
Speaker 1: What how does this? How does this tumble?
Speaker 3: Well? I guess later on that day, without my knowledge,
Speaker 3: she contacted the police. Oh really, and yeah, and they
Speaker 3: like put a warrant out for me. But even before
Speaker 3: like so it was a private warrant, so it wasn't
Speaker 3: really public at the time, And before they even sought
Speaker 3: out the warrant, my dad, without even talking to me
Speaker 3: about what happened, he basically was like, gonna send me
Speaker 3: to a homeless shelter, and can.
Speaker 1: I ask what the deal is with your mother?
Speaker 3: She they're divorced and my mom had a boyfriend at
Speaker 3: the time that none of my siblings were really fond of,
Speaker 3: so we barely went over to her house at all.
Speaker 1: Okay, So did your father and stepmom eventually end up
Speaker 1: kicking you out?
Speaker 3: Well, they brought up the homeless shelter thing to me,
Speaker 3: and before they could take me there, I ran away. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and my sister picked me up, and then I was
Speaker 3: arrested at her house.
Speaker 1: Arrested at your sister's house for years for shoving your stepmom. Yes, wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: so they did they take you down to the station.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I stayed in a holding block for twelve hours
Speaker 3: because it was considered as domessive violence case. And then
Speaker 3: my mom bailed me out and got me that night.
Speaker 1: Wow. So when was this?
Speaker 3: This was a year ago, but I've like, as of
Speaker 3: this year, a couple months ago, it's just gotten results
Speaker 3: in court.
Speaker 1: Really, so your mom picks you up and then how
Speaker 1: soon after that do you see your stepmom and father again?
Speaker 3: So they also got a temporary order of protection so
Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to see them or contact them or
Speaker 3: even like relay a message through somebody really mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I don't want to speak to the middle
Speaker 3: so I'm not really upset about that.
Speaker 1: So have you? Okay? So are you? So you haven't
Speaker 1: spoken to them since this happened?
Speaker 3: No? I haven't.
Speaker 1: Wow. And your father was on board. It sounded as
Speaker 1: though your step mom was kind of the pilot for
Speaker 1: all of this and and was your father on board
Speaker 1: for all of her decisions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly think my dad kind of planted this
Speaker 3: seed in her head to get me arrested.
Speaker 1: But now your brother was living with your stepfather and
Speaker 1: mother too, right, yes, And have you gotten any information
Speaker 1: about them or from them or anything like that via him?
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't. He doesn't want to speak to them
Speaker 3: either because he was obviously on my side and that
Speaker 3: made them mad. So they kicked him out too, and.
Speaker 1: He wow, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They took like all of his stuff, like his clothes,
Speaker 3: his computer, They took all of his posters off his wall.
Speaker 1: They just took it. He hasn't gotten it back yet.
Speaker 3: No. There were some things that they left outside, like
Speaker 3: on a curb for him, but the majority of it
Speaker 3: they just sold I.
Speaker 1: Guess where are you living now? Are you with your
Speaker 1: parents or are you on your own? I mean with your
Speaker 1: mom or on your own.
Speaker 3: With my mom and my brother right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, is she still dating that guy that was kind
Speaker 1: of keeping you away from there?
Speaker 3: No, he's long gone. I would convince her to like
Speaker 3: he was like, okay, being not being fond of him
Speaker 3: is like lightly, he was kind of like he This
Speaker 3: sounds like okay, whatever. He was like running from a
Speaker 3: warrant for like eleven years of like an attempted murder charge.
Speaker 1: Ah, that you know what, that's a red flag, I
Speaker 1: would say in my in my hot dating advice, I
Speaker 1: would say running from a warrant for eleven years is
Speaker 1: a red flag.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, So how is how is living with your mom?
Speaker 3: It's pretty It's way better. My dad was kind of
Speaker 3: like a dictator. They were kind of like evangelist type people,
Speaker 3: super Christian in my mom's really chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was kind of curious because you started your
Speaker 1: story at you getting disowned, and I'm curious what your
Speaker 1: relationship was like with him just throughout your life while
Speaker 1: you were growing up. If this was kind of like
Speaker 1: you know, if it was just years and years and
Speaker 1: years and years leading up to this, or was he
Speaker 1: cool and then stepmom came in and you know, brainwashed
Speaker 1: him or whatever? It is, Like, how do you feel
Speaker 1: as though the situation escalated to that point.
Speaker 3: He has I wouldn't say that he would get brainwashed.
Speaker 3: He's more of the person to do that to somebody else.
Speaker 3: And he's kind of not emotionally involved in anything. So
Speaker 3: we were close when I was a kid, but when
Speaker 3: I started growing up, like when I reached twelve, I
Speaker 3: just realized that he didn't really care. So it was
Speaker 3: kind of like an awkward tension of me not like
Speaker 3: being comfortable around him because I knew that he just
Speaker 3: like it's like he's not there because he just doesn't care.
Speaker 3: Like he acts like he cares, but you can tell
Speaker 3: that he doesn't interesting and I see I feel like
Speaker 3: I called him out a couple of times on that
Speaker 3: and like made him look at himself, and that's why
Speaker 3: he started to hate me, because I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, one of the only people who would call
Speaker 3: him out on his shit.
Speaker 1: Does any part of you that you are consciously intact
Speaker 1: with desire in any way to make up with him
Speaker 1: or are you fully glad to be done with him?
Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad because he didn't really bring anything
Speaker 3: into my life that was good and also shit I
Speaker 3: forgot when I okay, But yeah, I'm not. I don't
Speaker 3: want to. I just like I can't even think about
Speaker 3: ever making up with him because I felt like he
Speaker 3: just betrayed me in like such a horrible way, and
Speaker 3: he even like they got me a This was a
Speaker 3: month after my ninth nineteenth birthday, and they got me
Speaker 3: a cat for my birthday because I was always asking
Speaker 3: for a cat and I loved this cat, and they
Speaker 3: purposely like kept her and took her from me, just
Speaker 3: like literally out of spite, like they didn't even want
Speaker 3: the cat.
Speaker 1: I don't know your dad and your stepmom kept the
Speaker 1: cat when they kicked you out. Yes, before we go,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a cat back to you and your brother,
Speaker 1: you know, just the little things, the bong, you you know,
Speaker 1: kind of standing up for him to your dad. Has
Speaker 1: your relationship with him always been very tight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say. I'd say that we obviously got into
Speaker 3: fights like every pair of siblings do. But we're a
Speaker 3: couple of years apart from each other, so we've kind
Speaker 3: of always been pretty close with each other.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Look into the future for a sec, Drib,
Speaker 1: what uh, what's next for you in life? What where?
Speaker 1: Do where do we think we're going?
Speaker 3: You know? I have no idea. Yeah, I'm kind of
Speaker 3: in like a rut right now because that gave me
Speaker 3: so many like trust issues, so it's it's hard for
Speaker 3: me to like step outside of myself. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Are you in school or working at all?
Speaker 3: No? Not currently?
Speaker 1: Do you do you desire to be?
Speaker 3: Yes? I do, but I like my anxiety holds me
Speaker 3: back so much. But I'm I'm gonna get over that
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm gonna get help for that soon.
Speaker 1: So yeah, are you speaking to any actual licensed mental
Speaker 1: health people?
Speaker 3: I did for three years, but and I did while
Speaker 3: all that shit was happening a little but kind of
Speaker 3: after all of it died down, I just like kind
Speaker 3: of needed a break. I don't know, and so I
Speaker 3: haven't been back yet, but I know I should soon.
Speaker 1: Well, Drib, thanks for sharing all this stuff. I I
Speaker 1: hope it felt productive for you to to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you are doing better and
Speaker 1: that you're still maintaining good relationships with your mom and
Speaker 1: your brother. Is there anything else or any kind of
Speaker 1: aspect of this that you feel like we didn't get
Speaker 1: to talk about, or anything that you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 3: No, this has been a great call. Thank you for listening. Also,
Speaker 3: thank you for liking am Enjoys because everybody hates on them,
Speaker 3: but they're actually like the bad Scarande.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I'm vocal about it because I'm afraid
Speaker 1: if I'm not, they'll stop making them. I think I'm
Speaker 1: like the only one. Well, I guess me and you.
Speaker 3: It is your hype.
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Drive.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting. It's kind of good perspective to
Speaker 1: hear about other people's relationships with their parents, because maybe
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I'm lucky, I have a
Speaker 1: good I have a good relationship with my own family,
Speaker 1: And I think you tend to get tunnel visioned into,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe subconsciously feeling as though other people's experiences are
Speaker 1: are very similar to your own, and it kind of
Speaker 1: wakes you up a little bit to hear, you know
Speaker 1: a store you like Dribs where her dad and herd
Speaker 1: did not get along and I'm sorry to hear that
Speaker 1: they haven't talked in a long time. But I'm also
Speaker 1: on that same coin glad that she's out of that
Speaker 1: stress she was dealing with with him, And again, good
Speaker 1: on her for maintaining that relationship with her brother. I'm
Speaker 1: sure her brother appreciates her very much for letting him
Speaker 1: hit her bong and also all the other stuff. Okay, Hello,
Speaker 1: is this Gek?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is this Pete?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Hey Greg?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: I'm just chilling. What's in the stream?
Speaker 1: How can I get you today?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: I kind of have this weird obsession with smelling my
Speaker 5: cat's breath.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 5: Oh it's kind of embarrassing. I don't really only brought
Speaker 5: it up to one of my friends.
Speaker 1: How long have this? Has this been going on for?
Speaker 5: About like the beginning of twenty sixteen?
Speaker 1: Okay, are you? Are you fucking with me? Or is
Speaker 1: this a real thing?
Speaker 5: No that I'm being that serious. I know it sounds weird,
Speaker 5: so I kind of laugh, but I am. I'm serious.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: All Right, you you're obsessed with smelling your cat's breath?
Speaker 1: What do you Okay, there's a lot of different angles here.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you get out of it? What?
Speaker 1: What's the on what level do you enjoy it?
Speaker 5: Well, it's kind of it just like kind of feels good,
Speaker 5: not like in a weird way, but just like it's
Speaker 5: like I don't know, like if I like open a
Speaker 5: bag of chips, I'll smell the chips, you know, and
Speaker 5: like for like smelling a book or something like a
Speaker 5: brand new book or something.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like if you open your cat's mouth, you gotta.
Speaker 5: Smell it, yeah, but I don't. I don't open it,
Speaker 5: like like god, dude, this sounds weird, like so so
Speaker 5: it started. I got there. It's two cats. I got
Speaker 5: them in the beginning of twenty sixteen, like February. And
Speaker 5: I don't know when it started exactly, but for some reason,
Speaker 5: I noticed myself liking the smell of their food, like
Speaker 5: the bag of their food when I would feed them
Speaker 5: in the morning and stuff. And then I noticed myself
Speaker 5: kind of like like craving that smell, like I would
Speaker 5: like the morning coffee smell, like a pot of coffee,
Speaker 5: you know. And I don't know it's like exactly when,
Speaker 5: but right around that time, I just started like smelling them.
Speaker 5: It just sounds ridiculous, but like I would like I
Speaker 5: would kind of tell them they're like, be like you're
Speaker 5: a good boy, and then I'll give them a kiss
Speaker 5: or whatever, and then I'll like kind of secretly to
Speaker 5: myself kind of smell their breath, until I eventually evolved
Speaker 5: into just not caring and just doing it.
Speaker 1: So their food looked appetizing to you.
Speaker 5: No, I don't want to know. I like when I
Speaker 5: was younger, I ate some this as a joke to
Speaker 5: my brother, but it wasn't. It doesn't. It's more like appetizing,
Speaker 5: like I want to eat it. Like just the smell
Speaker 5: of it, Like it's like like like new leather in
Speaker 5: a car or something like just like a good smell,
Speaker 5: you know. And it's like I fell myself to the
Speaker 5: point where it's like now current day, I'm like like
Speaker 5: I try to, like before I leave my house, I'll
Speaker 5: rub their gums with my thumbs and then I like
Speaker 5: in the car, will smell it and like get the
Speaker 5: smell of their breath, you know, and then I just
Speaker 5: it's almost like kind of anxiety sometimes because I'll be
Speaker 5: like I was in Target today and for some reason,
Speaker 5: I really wanted to smell it and I knew there
Speaker 5: was probably some sort of resdue on my thumb, and
Speaker 5: I was like, it just is weird because I'm like
Speaker 5: walking down this aisle trying to be like a normal person,
Speaker 5: but I know in my head, I'm just thinking about
Speaker 5: smelling my thumb, and I then I like turn an
Speaker 5: aisle and then be like, oh, look, here's a package
Speaker 5: of gum, and then I smell my thumb really quick
Speaker 5: and then put my hand back to like the gun
Speaker 5: just feel like, all right, I'll get this one and
Speaker 5: throw it in the cart.
Speaker 1: This kind of reminds me of like the desire to
Speaker 1: sniff your own balls after you scratch them, but instead
Speaker 1: of your balls, it's a cat's mouth.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and I've never had a desire to smell
Speaker 5: my balls. But I know you're talking about I've heard
Speaker 5: that before, and the thing is like, I don't. It's
Speaker 5: like I feel weird about it, and like it feels
Speaker 5: like kind of embarrassing or awkward to talk about, but
Speaker 5: at the same time, like I don't know it was
Speaker 5: something I really should even care to stop or if
Speaker 5: I just live my life.
Speaker 1: That way, right, That's what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1: You seem like You're harboring some shame about this, and
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to as to why you feel you
Speaker 1: feel that shame.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like like one of those things that like
Speaker 5: I can't really tell people about it, or like I
Speaker 5: just like feel like I can't because you know, well,
Speaker 5: like I said, my one friend just really he gave
Speaker 5: me a lot of crap about it. He still does,
Speaker 5: but it's just like kind of a joke between us.
Speaker 5: But it's like I know that it is a bit odd,
Speaker 5: and it just feels like it's like I can't, like,
Speaker 5: you know, even friends I've had for a long time.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's just something I don't want to
Speaker 5: bring up. But it's like it feels embarrassing, you know,
Speaker 5: like makes me laugh. But it's well, the thing is.
Speaker 1: Just like, let me ask you this to you personally,
Speaker 1: Do you believe that this negatively impacts your life in
Speaker 1: any way shape or for him?
Speaker 5: No, The only thing I ever thought of is like
Speaker 5: I don't know if they would have something weird in
Speaker 5: their mouths that like, because I'm like putting it directly
Speaker 5: to my nose, that like I would somehow contract some
Speaker 5: weird disease or something.
Speaker 1: But I don't know about a disease. But I mean, look,
Speaker 1: as far as you smelling your cat's breath, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, Pete. I just watched, uh you
Speaker 1: see that TV show about Jeffrey Dahmer a little bit? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that well, there's he's it's about this guy who
Speaker 1: killed and consumed I think seventeen people. Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: just I mean think about that. If you're like thinking
Speaker 1: about your base fast line of weirdness.
Speaker 5: In comparison, it's.
Speaker 1: You smelling your cat's breath. It's not that bad. It's
Speaker 1: not as bad as as murdering and eating people. So
Speaker 1: I feel like as long as you are not harming
Speaker 1: yourself or harming anyone else, I feel like you're fine.
Speaker 5: Okay, It's something I could continue doing and feel like
Speaker 5: decent about myself. And do you think I should ever
Speaker 5: tell anyone else or just kind of keep it low key?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you would feel better if you
Speaker 1: told other people?
Speaker 5: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, Okay, just feel that then
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell anyone?
Speaker 5: All right? Well? Yeah, I mean that's oh there's the questions.
Speaker 5: I got some other weird stuff going on, but.
Speaker 1: Those, I mean, listen, only if Pete, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: dead seriously, if only only if you truly do believe,
Speaker 1: because look, I mean, your shame grows in the shadows,
Speaker 1: you know, So yeah, you're shame. It's like the opposite
Speaker 1: of them right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like like second nature. As we've been talking, I
Speaker 5: I touched my cat's mouth and smelled it, and then
Speaker 5: I realized that I was just talking to you. I
Speaker 5: was doing it, and I thought, well, that's like, I
Speaker 5: guess admitting that is. I guess I don't feel any
Speaker 5: better worse. I guess that's just kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this is a thing I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would accept it about yourself. I
Speaker 1: mean again, as long as you're not eating people, as
Speaker 1: long as you're not killing people, eating them and violating
Speaker 1: their corpses, I think you're doing.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, yeah, I'm not doing any of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I think I'm doing all that. Yeah, hang
Speaker 1: in there, Pete, Carrie, don't don't carry too much shame
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Gek, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Sore.
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say to the people of
Speaker 1: the computer before we go.
Speaker 5: No, just have a good night, and yeah, don't be
Speaker 5: ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 1: You as well take care Pete.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Grek.
Speaker 1: But you know it's interesting is I've had people call
Speaker 1: in about really intense, kind of heavy family melo drama
Speaker 1: and issues with social isolation and you know, all kinds
Speaker 1: of heavy stuff. And this guy who smells his cat's
Speaker 1: breath is one of the saddest callers I've talked to.
Speaker 1: Not sad, as in like it is sad what they do.
Speaker 1: I think what they do is completely fine, but they
Speaker 1: themselves feel very sad about it, and I find that sad.
Speaker 1: How sad they feel. As long as they're not killing
Speaker 1: people and eating them, I think Pete is gonna be okay. Hello, Hello, Cheyenne.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good?
Speaker 1: How are you? I am a gecko on the computer.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: What's going on with you, Cheyenne? Is there anything in
Speaker 1: particular that you called in to talk about?
Speaker 4: Well, not really. I was talking to the screener about
Speaker 4: how hating furries is going to be like the next homophobia.
Speaker 4: Well that's what our friend says, and I just hate
Speaker 4: that she says.
Speaker 1: That, Okay, I'm gonna read what these notes say. It
Speaker 1: says here that you have a dislike for furries, but
Speaker 1: you worry because you have a friend who is a
Speaker 1: furry and that and and you claim that your friend
Speaker 1: believes that being anti furry is akin to being homophobic.
Speaker 1: Have I Have I gotten all of this correct?
Speaker 4: Pretty much? I don't know if she's a furry for real,
Speaker 4: but it's she hangs out with a bunch of them,
Speaker 4: and I'm just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's let's let's let's get into this here.
Speaker 1: Why do you dislike furries?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I just this just always
Speaker 4: been like this thing like I don't know, I just
Speaker 4: they just h there's just furries.
Speaker 1: Can I can I cut in here with something? Do
Speaker 1: you mind? Mh?
Speaker 5: You go ahead?
Speaker 1: Do you? First of all, do you shot Cheyenne? Right, Cheyenne?
Speaker 1: Do you really hate furries?
Speaker 4: Kind of? Like I mean, I don't know, they just
Speaker 4: there's just something about them.
Speaker 3: Is that like?
Speaker 4: Is that like really rude?
Speaker 1: It's well, let me, I'll tell you this. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a really I mean hatred strong just stay that
Speaker 1: rattles you to your core or or just strong shan.
Speaker 1: Your strong emotional reactions should be reserved to be intentionally
Speaker 1: used for things that really matter. Yeah, so so I
Speaker 1: feel a go ahead, tell me what you wanted to say.
Speaker 4: Well, like, I mean, I don't hate them, but like
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't like run up to one and like
Speaker 4: punch them in the face, but like I just like
Speaker 4: if they like they're like near me and they like,
Speaker 4: I would like move away and not. No, Like it's
Speaker 4: not hatred, but it's not I.
Speaker 1: Don't like them, Okay, And I mean, okay, do you
Speaker 1: expend energy in your hatred for furries?
Speaker 3: M describe expand.
Speaker 1: Like you think about them and it makes your heart
Speaker 1: race and your blood boil and you go out of
Speaker 1: your way to express your dislike.
Speaker 4: No, but like if they were talking about furries, I'd
Speaker 4: just be.
Speaker 1: Like, no, Okay, your friend claims to be a fairy.
Speaker 4: Correct, Well, she's never like came out, but I've I've
Speaker 4: gotten I feel like she is.
Speaker 1: Okay. So you're living your life. You're not, as it sounds,
Speaker 1: going out of your way to be mean to people
Speaker 1: who like the furry community. You're simply doing your thing,
Speaker 1: they're simply doing their thing. Your parallel lines moving through
Speaker 1: the universe, not interacting with each other until your friends
Speaker 1: reveals to you that she is a furry and now
Speaker 1: there is is becomes an intersection And is this some
Speaker 1: form of a I mean, what are your feelings about this?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I would approve, but I
Speaker 4: don't think I would like just closed her. But I
Speaker 4: think I would probably distance myself away from her.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I just grace, just give
Speaker 4: me the ick?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Do you think it's homophobic or like it's like the
Speaker 4: next homophobia?
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's here's here's what I think. When you say
Speaker 1: that it gives you the ick. I I would just,
Speaker 1: I don't know, for for your own sake, Scheyanna, I
Speaker 1: I would encourage you to do your best. And it's
Speaker 1: not going to be a thing that happens overnight. It's
Speaker 1: a thing that I'm working on that I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are working on, uh, which is to
Speaker 1: try your best to have as positive of a perception
Speaker 1: of things as you can, you know, this being one
Speaker 1: of them, and you know, take a take a step
Speaker 1: back from like the visceral reaction of your ick and
Speaker 1: put it under a microscope for a second. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've done that, because you know, I'm asking
Speaker 1: you these questions and you're having a hard time answering them.
Speaker 1: And that's okay, but that's keying me into the fact
Speaker 1: that you haven't really really and it's okay, but it's again,
Speaker 1: it's key me into the fact that you haven't really
Speaker 1: thought about why you have these feelings. Maybe you haven't
Speaker 1: really examined them. And I think if you did, and
Speaker 1: if you did it trying to have a positive perception,
Speaker 1: you might surprise yourself. Does that make any sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do that, Okay, good.
Speaker 6: Shan.
Speaker 1: Is anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Uh? Nobody? Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Sure? What's up?
Speaker 4: Would you rather have penis sized nipples or a nipple
Speaker 4: sized penis?
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Probably nipple sized penis, because at
Speaker 1: least I could, like, I feel like having a penis
Speaker 1: sized nipples, I would be harder to hide in public.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, think of calling.
Speaker 4: Thank you bye.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put in better words what I said
Speaker 1: to her because I'm thinking about it and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about if what I said made any sense. It made
Speaker 1: sense to me, but I don't know if I explained it. Well,
Speaker 1: give me two seconds. Okay, fucking furry you'll you're on
Speaker 1: TikTok and you see two people in fur suits, and
Speaker 1: your immediate reaction is, oh, furries are weird. Oh this
Speaker 1: thing is weird.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: That's just your immediate reaction, And that's it makes sense,
Speaker 1: right whatever. There's some uncanny valley thing going on there
Speaker 1: that is easy to make fun of, easy not to like,
Speaker 1: easy to get the eck. But what would be difficult
Speaker 1: is to look at it and try it just fucking
Speaker 1: and so I'm trying. I'm not trying to come at
Speaker 1: this as if I've mastered it. This is just what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is to look at it and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: how can I force myself to have a positive perception
Speaker 1: of this? How can I force myself off to see
Speaker 1: that and go, you know, I'm glad those people are
Speaker 1: having a good time. I admire the courage they have
Speaker 1: to be themselves just you know, positive hippie stuff. How
Speaker 1: can you force yourself into that perspective so that your
Speaker 1: brain feels a little bit less gloomy, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for Cheyenne. She navigates her her relationship with
Speaker 1: people who put on Fox costumes. Hey, folks, Lyle here.
Speaker 1: As you might know, I've been traveling all over the
Speaker 1: United States doing live shows, which have been going very
Speaker 1: very well, and I thank anyone listening who's come out
Speaker 1: to them. And as I've been traveling around, I've been
Speaker 1: recording a lot of interviews with folks wandering around the streets,
Speaker 1: and I thought i'd end this podcast with an excerpt
Speaker 1: from my street interviews in Miami. If you enjoy these
Speaker 1: IRL phone calls want to see more, then you can
Speaker 1: go to YouTube dot com slash Lyle forever, or just
Speaker 1: search YouTube for being a Gecko in Miami. All right,
Speaker 1: let's see what's going on in the streets of Miami Beach. Hello. Hi,
Speaker 1: what's your name?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 6: My name is Leo.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, man. What are you doing out
Speaker 1: here on Miami Beach today?
Speaker 6: So I'm just here and enjoying today. You know, I'll
Speaker 6: do some meetings with my clients.
Speaker 1: There's meetings with their clients. Okay, what kind of clients?
Speaker 1: So you got what kind of work do you do.
Speaker 6: So, I want a concierge company. It's called Miami VP.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: We do all car rentals, yachts, mansions, jets, jess kis,
Speaker 6: you name it, we have it. We provide that service
Speaker 6: at the highest level. You know, anybody who wants to
Speaker 6: come to Miami and have a good time, you know
Speaker 6: we're here to provide that service for them.
Speaker 1: What to you is your idea of a good time
Speaker 1: in Miami?
Speaker 6: Client lands here. You know, we prepare everything before they
Speaker 6: even get here, where you have a greeter directing them
Speaker 6: to the driver. There's a driver show for taking them
Speaker 6: to their hotel or their Airbnb or the mansion that
Speaker 6: they booked through us. We have a chef they're cooking,
Speaker 6: you know, their lunch before arrival. If they order any
Speaker 6: cars exotics, the cars are already parked at the mansion
Speaker 6: or their hotel. You know, we have a driver that's
Speaker 6: gonna take them to dinner. You know, they want to
Speaker 6: get a hotel, I mean a yacht. Yeah, we have
Speaker 6: a yacht booking or if they want to go on
Speaker 6: up to a club and book a table, we have
Speaker 6: that as well. People that is gonna escort people to
Speaker 6: they're designed you know service.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you personally, are you very into the high
Speaker 1: life do you like you know, big fancy cars and yachts.
Speaker 1: Is that is that? What does it for you in
Speaker 1: this world?
Speaker 6: I mean what does it for me is more just
Speaker 6: being able to provide a great service for my clientele.
Speaker 6: You know, it's not about the money more. It's more
Speaker 6: about the service and the way they feel. So when
Speaker 6: they come to Miami, I want them to feel like
Speaker 6: they just you know, somebody comes to your house. You
Speaker 6: want to want them to feel welcomed, you know, so
Speaker 6: when they go back, you know, they when they do
Speaker 6: come back to Miami, they think about you because you
Speaker 6: felt make the felt welcome to your services and it
Speaker 6: was top notched.
Speaker 1: Has that been a constant throughout your life? You wanted
Speaker 1: to provide service for other people?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've always wanted to, you know, make other people,
Speaker 6: you know, just provide anything, not just to make money.
Speaker 6: You know, at first it was to make money just
Speaker 6: to like pay the bills and stuff like that. But
Speaker 6: once you do, once you get into for a while,
Speaker 6: you understand that it's just about the servicing because that's
Speaker 6: what lasts longer than just the money.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So before you were doing all this high end stuff.
Speaker 1: What were some other ways in your life that you
Speaker 1: have provided service to the people.
Speaker 6: I used to teach people how to dance. I used
Speaker 6: to sell candy in school. I used to sell shoes Jordan's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you were very entrepreneurial.
Speaker 6: For I'll call from Columbia, so I didn't have a
Speaker 6: social security at one point to work, you know, until like, nah,
Speaker 6: I finally got it. I'm able to open up a company,
Speaker 6: you know, but before you can't get a job, so
Speaker 6: you have to figure it out.
Speaker 1: You came from Columbia from Columbia. When did you come
Speaker 1: here from Columbia?
Speaker 6: That was six?
Speaker 1: You're six? Do you ever go back to Columbia?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: No, No is a reason why not?
Speaker 6: Because I just got my passport now, so you know,
Speaker 6: before now I could go back to Columbia.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Why did you pick Miami to come to? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't pick it. Okay, Why do you
Speaker 1: continue to stay in Miami? What do you like about it?
Speaker 6: I mean, I traveled all over the United States, but
Speaker 6: Miami to me is more like you know, the world,
Speaker 6: because you have so many ethnicities here in Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 6: people from Russia, from Colombia, people from Jamaica, people from Germany,
Speaker 6: people from all over the world. That you know, I
Speaker 6: feel like this is where the world is in Miami.
Speaker 1: What have you learned from meeting so many people all
Speaker 1: over the place?
Speaker 6: I learned that you know that life is a journey
Speaker 6: and it's forever changing, and you can't stay satisfied with
Speaker 6: one thing, because then, you know, that's when you stop living.
Speaker 6: I think you should always evolve and always want to
Speaker 6: learn and meet new people and seeing new places so
Speaker 6: you can keep expanding your you know, your own soul,
Speaker 6: and that's how you live life.
Speaker 1: It seems like you're you're really you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not just saying that she was really living that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean doing like Candy and Jordan's all
Speaker 1: the way up to yachts and exotic cars and like
Speaker 1: even from what you're saying about it not being about
Speaker 1: just the money, like you just care about the grind.
Speaker 1: Like you seem like you're gonna be doing this for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. For the rest of my life,
Speaker 1: you know, not the kind of guy that wants to retire. Alright, No,
Speaker 1: we don't retire, Okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we retire, our kids, kids, kids, you know, whenever
Speaker 6: we go. But you know, I've been able to, I've
Speaker 6: been able to being very blessed to being able to
Speaker 6: take people like you know, Rihanna Jamie Fox as client.
Speaker 6: So I manifested that. So I'm a big believe in
Speaker 6: the law of attraction. I believe that you know, all
Speaker 6: people say right place, right time, and I think that
Speaker 6: that means that you never quit because the right place,
Speaker 6: right time is gonna come. But if you quit, or
Speaker 6: you take it or you procrastinate, that was the day.
Speaker 6: And you know that's the way it just happens. So
Speaker 6: I don't believe in giving up. I don't believe in
Speaker 6: feeling sorry for myself or anybody else. I believe in
Speaker 6: just making it happen. And an l doesn't mean lose,
Speaker 6: it means a lesson. You know, if you don't try,
Speaker 6: you were never gonna learn, and you missed one hundred
Speaker 6: percent of the shots you never take. So I take
Speaker 6: shots every single day.
Speaker 1: How do you feel like you've developed this mentality over
Speaker 1: the years.
Speaker 6: Through adversity, Because the adversity that breaks you or makes
Speaker 6: you're a record breaker. You know where I come from,
Speaker 6: it was already broken scenario in Columbia thor world country.
Speaker 6: You know, it's crazy, but coming over here, it's an opportunity.
Speaker 6: There's no way, you know, you're gonna take that for granted.
Speaker 6: You can't take opportunities for granted. You can't take people
Speaker 6: that love you and truly want to help you. You know,
Speaker 6: then for granted you can't. You know, you gotta just
Speaker 6: be true to yourself, be real, and then things are
Speaker 6: gonna happen the way they're supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: I respect that a lot as a way of being
Speaker 1: wired for life, you know, like always wanting to grow
Speaker 1: and always wanting to do the absolute best you can.
Speaker 1: Are there any like pain points to that. Are there
Speaker 1: any occurrences or things that happened that that kind of
Speaker 1: like make it make it hard for you to keep going?
Speaker 6: No, I just believe in you know, I have family
Speaker 6: members that passed away, you know, and I just believe
Speaker 6: that the fact that I'm still alive and I've overcame adversity.
Speaker 6: I just cherish life at the highest level too, where
Speaker 6: nothing really bothers me, you know, I'm thankful for every
Speaker 6: single moment, like being in the in the highway and
Speaker 6: maybe you miss an exit, maybe you're about to be
Speaker 6: late to something that you need to be on time to.
Speaker 6: But it's avery direction from God. Maybe if you would
Speaker 6: have took the right direction, you would have crashed or
Speaker 6: something would have happened, you know. So you just let
Speaker 6: it go, because there's nothing good comes from being negative
Speaker 6: or like being in sorrow or in a dark, dark moment,
Speaker 6: you know, So you just let it go and just
Speaker 6: keep pushing forward.
Speaker 1: And then, of course what you said about the exact thing.
Speaker 1: Any time I get like pissed off about something or
Speaker 1: I feel like I made a mistake, you know, like
Speaker 1: the timelines are are mysterious and in red, and so
Speaker 1: you never know what could have happened.
Speaker 6: I just I just I just believe in the law
Speaker 6: of attraction so much that you know, nothing bothers me.
Speaker 6: Things that used to bother me don't bother me anymore.
Speaker 1: What used to bother you?
Speaker 6: The way people, the way people like communicated with each other.
Speaker 6: Now I'm just like, Okay, that's that's how they are.
Speaker 6: And you can't really force anything upon anybody.
Speaker 1: The people that you're surrounded with in life, your friends
Speaker 1: and family, do they have a similar mindset as you
Speaker 1: now they.
Speaker 6: Do, Yes, because I've cut a lot of people off
Speaker 6: that didn't and I understood that if I didn't choose that,
Speaker 6: I was always gonna remain. Was that hard for you, Yes,
Speaker 6: of course, yeah, because you know, you grew up with
Speaker 6: these people. You love them, you done you know, play
Speaker 6: video games with them, you play basketball with them, you
Speaker 6: want championships with them. But they chose to stay in
Speaker 6: a different mindset. They don't want to progress or grow
Speaker 6: or to get to the next level as much as
Speaker 6: I do. Because obviously we didn't come from the same scenario.
Speaker 6: We didn't start at the same start line.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: I just happen to come here from a different country
Speaker 6: where it was like really bad, you know, and I
Speaker 6: have a different gold in life. You know, it's not
Speaker 6: the goal is not about you know, getting all the
Speaker 6: money in the world and stuff like that. It's about
Speaker 6: being able to take care of those people who are
Speaker 6: around you while you're here and after that, you know.
Speaker 1: What's your goal for the future. Are you trying to
Speaker 1: just scale this luxury yacht thing or and there's other
Speaker 1: like businesses that you want to try.
Speaker 6: So we're actually that another I love that question because
Speaker 6: we're actually launching an app that's gonna be worldwide. It's
Speaker 6: called members Only. You're gonna be able to book cars, yachts, mansions, jets, events,
Speaker 6: But you got to be a member only if you
Speaker 6: want to get the lowest costs possible. So members get
Speaker 6: the lowest costs possible. Non members they could book like
Speaker 6: regular you know members, regular clients, they could just book.
Speaker 6: But if you do get the membership, you get it
Speaker 6: with the NFT and you also get the wholesale access
Speaker 6: to you know, the services that you want to book
Speaker 6: that you usually are usually booking, you know, instead of
Speaker 6: you know, having the broken in the middle, you're automatically
Speaker 6: booking directly do the owner.
Speaker 1: Now, how does one become a member? Do you have
Speaker 1: to be famous or something or.
Speaker 6: No, you just got to have you know, the first
Speaker 6: the first tier that were starting it off is that
Speaker 6: ten thousand dollars, right, and that gives you access to
Speaker 6: the whole sell everything, the yachts, the mansions, the cars.
Speaker 6: Not waiting in line at the club, you know, reservations,
Speaker 6: you know, walk right in, you don't have to wait.
Speaker 1: You know, the top somebody comes in who's spent ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, stay in the club, and part of the
Speaker 1: experience is walking past the people that didn't and like,
Speaker 1: do they they get it? Do they like look at
Speaker 1: them like, man, those fucking rich people just.
Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes that's what it's but that's what feeds
Speaker 6: the ego. It's really like the ego that you're feeding.
Speaker 1: How what's your relationship like with your ego?
Speaker 6: I don't have an ego no more. I used to
Speaker 6: have a huge ego.
Speaker 1: These people that the people that you service, do you
Speaker 1: see like a lot of ego?
Speaker 6: No, you would think that the people that have a
Speaker 6: lot of money are the most egoistic. They're actually the
Speaker 6: most humblest people.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 6: They actually want to help everybody else. Well everybody else
Speaker 6: is looking at them as, oh, you know whatever, this
Speaker 6: rich person. You know, they're really like, hey, I hope
Speaker 6: I can help you out, but I'm on my way
Speaker 6: to having some fun, you know. But there's no there's
Speaker 6: no ego when it comes to some people are But
Speaker 6: the people that I deal with, you know, they're not.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, man, my name is Leo. Leo.
Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you, man. Anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: I just want to say, trust God and stay positive.
Speaker 6: Never let your dreams go. Never let anybody stop you
Speaker 6: from achieving your goal, even if it sounds crazy to them.
Speaker 6: Keep going, never stop, and then you're gonna be at
Speaker 6: the right place at the right time. And that's what's
Speaker 6: gonna do it for you. And one day you know
Speaker 6: you're gonna achieve all the dreams that you ever thought
Speaker 6: of achieving. So that's my message to the world. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks lem man, appreciate it.
Speaker 6: No, I appreciate you. My Instagram is at my A
Speaker 6: V I P following me ia.
Speaker 1: Just at my av av That's pretty. That's like a
Speaker 1: pretty good hand.
Speaker 6: That's perfect.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be taken. You would have
Speaker 1: to put like a sixty nine or an underscore. Yeah, right, am,
Speaker 1: I A check you out. One day. Maybe I'll get
Speaker 1: a yacht from you.
Speaker 6: I hope, he thinks, well, I hope you're doing. We
Speaker 6: take a picture on the boat with the outf for that.
Speaker 6: You got a beautiful outfit.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Thank you man, Hey, take earlier, take thank you
Speaker 1: want to come be on the thing, goes on the line,
Speaker 1: taking phone calls every
Speaker 6: Night, goes, I was teaching you your life,