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Speaker 1: Hey, is this Jay Jay? What's going on with you?

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Speaker 1: What are you up to?

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Speaker 2: So? Yeah, there were some things that I've done as

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Speaker 2: a child, like to get over and forgive myself for

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Speaker 2: for a long time, but it's been hard.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So you did some things as a child and

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Speaker 1: you're trying to forgive yourself for them. Listen throughout urs call.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me what those things are.

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Speaker 1: But how old were you when you did them?

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Speaker 2: I'd say younger than twelve? Around twelve is when it stopped.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So you did some things as a child when

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Speaker 1: you were around twelve, and you're having trouble forgiving yourself.

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Speaker 1: Why do you believe you're having trouble forgiving yourself?

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Speaker 2: It's so fucked up shit, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is is this something you've ever talked to a real

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Speaker 1: therapist about?

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Speaker 2: No, I've never told anybody else.

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Speaker 1: You never told anybody about this stuff?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. It's way too like heavy.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And this was when you were when you were

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Speaker 1: twelve years old?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Wrong, man?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And how old are you now? I'm Sony Files,

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Speaker 1: you're twenty five. What do you do now with your life.

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Speaker 2: Other than working at a dog daycare now much, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trunning in my life together.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, listen, man, you know the nature of

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Speaker 1: problems you feel you might have caused.

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Speaker 2: That's the well. Yeah, I'd love to end up helping

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Speaker 2: people who like struggled with the same things I have. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and like be a guidance that people dealt with some

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Speaker 2: people that I guess need it because I don't know, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing it's all by myself, so I just I

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Speaker 2: know how hard it is. So I just love to

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Speaker 3: M hm.

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Speaker 1: When you say you're doing this all by yourself, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, man. I mean when you say you're doing

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Speaker 1: this all by yourself, what do you think would help you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you do you have friends

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Speaker 2: Definitely never seen a therapist or anything like that. So

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Speaker 2: other than that, not really stuff I want to be

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Speaker 2: talking of family about because I feel like there's no

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, do you do you have the means to

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Speaker 2: Can you explain what means being sorry?

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Speaker 1: Like, uh, you know, I mean, look, it can be

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Speaker 2: I have to talk about this, and I just I

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Speaker 2: just never try it, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because I look, again, I don't know what you did,

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Speaker 1: but it sounds as though you're beaten up about the

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Speaker 1: fact that you're well. It sounds as though you're beaten

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Speaker 1: and you've been carrying it for thirteen years, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just talking to you now is like helped me

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Speaker 1: Man, for sure, Jay, I mean this idea of you

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Speaker 1: I'm imagining to me even the most horrible thing. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you were twelve years old, I don't

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Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't think it should and I

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Speaker 1: I don't think it should define.

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Speaker 2: Can share your life, but if you'd rather me not share,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think you should talk about

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Speaker 2: It, for sure.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it should be something that defines

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Speaker 1: in the present, I have a desire to do good,

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Speaker 1: have a desire to help people, just like you said.

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Speaker 1: Just like you said, you have a desire to help

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Speaker 1: would would be a waste of this positive energy that

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Speaker 1: say that much. And I think I think you should go.

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Speaker 1: I think you should go try to find a person

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that's like held me from like seeking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I've had a lot of people say

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Speaker 2: As well as the other thing being that I don't

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Speaker 2: so I'd just rather deal with the stuff on my own.

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Speaker 1: M How are you feeling right now, Jay?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm good. Just thinking about that a little bit,

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Speaker 2: bout some emotions up, but I'm getting over it.

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Speaker 1: Mmm. I'm you know, I'll say it again. I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna go see some help.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good man. Is there anything else that you want

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a ton right now I'm blanking, But

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Speaker 2: I'm just want you to know that everything will pass.

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Speaker 2: You just got to ride the wave and keep fighting.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for calling jam nice talking night. Man.

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Speaker 1: I like Jay. He's a good guy. I didn't want him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he did. I'm not even going

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Speaker 1: talk through that stuff. Hello. Hello, Hi, who is this?

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Speaker 2: You're talking to Tony?

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Tony. What's going on? Tony?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: That's Tony mcarniy is the who name?

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Speaker 1: Tony Mcaroni? Yep, So Tony Macaroni? What's go? What's going

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Just eating eating?

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Speaker 1: Man, you're eating? What are you eating?

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Speaker 5: Cheeseburgers?

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Speaker 1: You're eating cheese? But how many cheeseburgers are you eating?

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Speaker 2: I got?

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Speaker 1: You have a few? How many is a few? I

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Speaker 5: I mean, I got, I got at least six.

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Speaker 1: Six is not a few? Six is I would I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I would consider that several. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know wrong, man.

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Speaker 5: Look, I just went I just went down to the

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Speaker 1: What do you mean the cheeseburger store? Is it called that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? If you go down and get the cheeseburger, do.

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Speaker 1: They have anything else? Do they have chicken sandwiches or

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Speaker 5: Cheeseburgers?

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Speaker 1: Okay? How often do you do visit the cheeseburger store?

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Speaker 5: A few times?

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Speaker 1: Once or twice, once or twice a day a week,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, probably a day.

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Speaker 1: Once a day. Okay. What so, Tony, When you're not

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Speaker 1: eating cheeseburgers, Tony, So, Tony Macaronie, When you're not eating cheeseburgers,

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Speaker 1: what do you do with your your life?

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Speaker 5: I'm usually just sitting there staring at the wall.

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Speaker 1: You sit and you stare at the wall. When you

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Speaker 5: Think about cheeseburgers?

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Speaker 1: Man, you think about cheeseburgers. So you're telling me, Tony Macaroni,

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Speaker 1: that you are either eating cheeseburgers or thinking about them, yes, constantly? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Uh do you work? Do you go to school? How

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I gotta go, though, I think you don't know.

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Speaker 1: You don't. You don't have to know. You know, you

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Speaker 1: don't have Tony. You don't have to go, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony,

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Speaker 1: you are Tony. You do not have to go. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna keep I'm not letting you. Don't be

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Speaker 1: a coward. Tony, sit in this with me. You have

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Speaker 1: created this, and you need to answer for this.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: You cannot just bail You cannot bail yourself out of this.

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Speaker 1: You cannot bail yourself out of this by saying you

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Speaker 1: have to go. Just Tony, for once in your life,

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Speaker 1: don't abandon a thing that you've created. Sit in it,

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Speaker 1: see where it goes. It could this could turn into

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Speaker 1: something productive, Tony, if you just just don't abandon it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: will you agree to that.

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Speaker 1: He got scared and he bailed out. Why would you

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Speaker 3: Gek?

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Speaker 5: Drib nothing?

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Speaker 3: I'm just watching your streams?

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Speaker 1: Somebody? Are you? Where are you right now? Are here knocking?

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Speaker 2: Does he?

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Speaker 1: How do? Maybe he's in pain?

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Speaker 3: No, he came in here to get the bomb.

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Speaker 1: He came in here to get the bong. Yeah, are

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Speaker 1: No, okay, I mean I feel like that's a good decision.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna tell a story about my dad

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Speaker 1: Mean, drip, What what was it that you guys were

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Speaker 3: My my dad earlier that morning was gonna let my

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Speaker 1: Kay, your step mom goes to wake up the brother,

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he was supposed to stay home from school,

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Speaker 3: Well? I guess later on that day, without my knowledge,

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Speaker 1: I ask what the deal is with your mother?

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Speaker 3: She they're divorced and my mom had a boyfriend at

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Speaker 1: Okay, So did your father and stepmom eventually end up

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Speaker 3: Well, they brought up the homeless shelter thing to me,

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Speaker 1: Arrested at your sister's house for years for shoving your stepmom. Yes, wow, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I stayed in a holding block for twelve hours

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Speaker 1: Wow. So when was this?

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Speaker 3: This was a year ago, but I've like, as of

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Speaker 1: Really, so your mom picks you up and then how

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Speaker 3: So they also got a temporary order of protection so

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Speaker 1: So have you? Okay? So are you? So you haven't

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Speaker 3: No? I haven't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly think my dad kind of planted this

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Speaker 1: But now your brother was living with your stepfather and

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Speaker 3: No, he doesn't. He doesn't want to speak to them

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They took like all of his stuff, like his clothes,

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Speaker 1: They just took it. He hasn't gotten it back yet.

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Speaker 3: No. There were some things that they left outside, like

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Speaker 1: Guess where are you living now? Are you with your

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Speaker 1: Okay, is she still dating that guy that was kind

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Speaker 3: No, he's long gone. I would convince her to like

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Speaker 1: Ah, that you know what, that's a red flag, I

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how is how is living with your mom?

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Speaker 3: It's pretty It's way better. My dad was kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was kind of curious because you started your

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Speaker 3: He has I wouldn't say that he would get brainwashed.

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Speaker 1: Does any part of you that you are consciously intact

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad because he didn't really bring anything

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Speaker 1: I don't know your dad and your stepmom kept the

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a cat back to you and your brother,

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Speaker 1: you know, just the little things, the bong, you you know,

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Speaker 1: M hmm. Look into the future for a sec, Drib,

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Speaker 1: what uh, what's next for you in life? What where?

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Speaker 1: Do where do we think we're going?

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Speaker 3: me to like step outside of myself. And I don't know.

443
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: Are you in school or working at all?

444
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: No? Not currently?

445
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Do you do you desire to be?

446
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: Yes? I do, but I like my anxiety holds me

447
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: back so much. But I'm I'm gonna get over that

448
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm gonna get help for that soon.

449
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, are you speaking to any actual licensed mental

450
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: health people?

451
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: I did for three years, but and I did while

452
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: all that shit was happening a little but kind of

453
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: after all of it died down, I just like kind

454
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: of needed a break. I don't know, and so I

455
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: haven't been back yet, but I know I should soon.

456
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: Well, Drib, thanks for sharing all this stuff. I I

457
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: hope it felt productive for you to to talk about it.

458
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you are doing better and

459
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: that you're still maintaining good relationships with your mom and

460
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: your brother. Is there anything else or any kind of

461
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: aspect of this that you feel like we didn't get

462
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: to talk about, or anything that you want to say

463
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.

464
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: No, this has been a great call. Thank you for listening. Also,

465
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: thank you for liking am Enjoys because everybody hates on them,

466
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: but they're actually like the bad Scarande.

467
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I'm vocal about it because I'm afraid

468
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: if I'm not, they'll stop making them. I think I'm

469
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: like the only one. Well, I guess me and you.

470
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: It is your hype.

471
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Drive.

472
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: Thank you.

473
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting. It's kind of good perspective to

474
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: hear about other people's relationships with their parents, because maybe

475
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I'm lucky, I have a

476
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: good I have a good relationship with my own family,

477
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 1: And I think you tend to get tunnel visioned into,

478
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: maybe maybe subconsciously feeling as though other people's experiences are

479
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: are very similar to your own, and it kind of

480
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: wakes you up a little bit to hear, you know

481
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: a store you like Dribs where her dad and herd

482
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: did not get along and I'm sorry to hear that

483
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: they haven't talked in a long time. But I'm also

484
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: on that same coin glad that she's out of that

485
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: stress she was dealing with with him, And again, good

486
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: on her for maintaining that relationship with her brother. I'm

487
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: sure her brother appreciates her very much for letting him

488
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: hit her bong and also all the other stuff. Okay, Hello,

489
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: is this Gek?

490
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

491
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: Is this Pete?

492
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

493
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 5: Hey Greg?

494
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: What's up?

495
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: Man?

496
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 5: I'm just chilling. What's in the stream?

497
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: How can I get you today?

498
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 6: Well?

499
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 5: I kind of have this weird obsession with smelling my

500
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: cat's breath.

501
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and.

502
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: Oh it's kind of embarrassing. I don't really only brought

503
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 5: it up to one of my friends.

504
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: How long have this? Has this been going on for?

505
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 5: About like the beginning of twenty sixteen?

506
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Okay, are you? Are you fucking with me? Or is

507
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: this a real thing?

508
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: No that I'm being that serious. I know it sounds weird,

509
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 5: so I kind of laugh, but I am. I'm serious.

510
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 6: Man.

511
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: All Right, you you're obsessed with smelling your cat's breath?

512
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: What do you Okay, there's a lot of different angles here.

513
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: What do you what do you get out of it? What?

514
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: What's the on what level do you enjoy it?

515
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 5: Well, it's kind of it just like kind of feels good,

516
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: not like in a weird way, but just like it's

517
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 5: like I don't know, like if I like open a

518
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 5: bag of chips, I'll smell the chips, you know, and

519
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: like for like smelling a book or something like a

520
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: brand new book or something.

521
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: Right, it's like if you open your cat's mouth, you gotta.

522
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 5: Smell it, yeah, but I don't. I don't open it,

523
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: like like god, dude, this sounds weird, like so so

524
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: it started. I got there. It's two cats. I got

525
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: them in the beginning of twenty sixteen, like February. And

526
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 5: I don't know when it started exactly, but for some reason,

527
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: I noticed myself liking the smell of their food, like

528
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 5: the bag of their food when I would feed them

529
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: in the morning and stuff. And then I noticed myself

530
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 5: kind of like like craving that smell, like I would

531
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 5: like the morning coffee smell, like a pot of coffee,

532
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: you know. And I don't know it's like exactly when,

533
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 5: but right around that time, I just started like smelling them.

534
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 5: It just sounds ridiculous, but like I would like I

535
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: would kind of tell them they're like, be like you're

536
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: a good boy, and then I'll give them a kiss

537
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 5: or whatever, and then I'll like kind of secretly to

538
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 5: myself kind of smell their breath, until I eventually evolved

539
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 5: into just not caring and just doing it.

540
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: So their food looked appetizing to you.

541
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: No, I don't want to know. I like when I

542
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: was younger, I ate some this as a joke to

543
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 5: my brother, but it wasn't. It doesn't. It's more like appetizing,

544
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: like I want to eat it. Like just the smell

545
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: of it, Like it's like like like new leather in

546
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 5: a car or something like just like a good smell,

547
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: you know. And it's like I fell myself to the

548
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: point where it's like now current day, I'm like like

549
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 5: I try to, like before I leave my house, I'll

550
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 5: rub their gums with my thumbs and then I like

551
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: in the car, will smell it and like get the

552
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 5: smell of their breath, you know, and then I just

553
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 5: it's almost like kind of anxiety sometimes because I'll be

554
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: like I was in Target today and for some reason,

555
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 5: I really wanted to smell it and I knew there

556
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 5: was probably some sort of resdue on my thumb, and

557
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: I was like, it just is weird because I'm like

558
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 5: walking down this aisle trying to be like a normal person,

559
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 5: but I know in my head, I'm just thinking about

560
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 5: smelling my thumb, and I then I like turn an

561
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 5: aisle and then be like, oh, look, here's a package

562
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: of gum, and then I smell my thumb really quick

563
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 5: and then put my hand back to like the gun

564
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 5: just feel like, all right, I'll get this one and

565
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: throw it in the cart.

566
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: This kind of reminds me of like the desire to

567
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: sniff your own balls after you scratch them, but instead

568
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: of your balls, it's a cat's mouth.

569
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and I've never had a desire to smell

570
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: my balls. But I know you're talking about I've heard

571
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 5: that before, and the thing is like, I don't. It's

572
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 5: like I feel weird about it, and like it feels

573
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: like kind of embarrassing or awkward to talk about, but

574
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: at the same time, like I don't know it was

575
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 5: something I really should even care to stop or if

576
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: I just live my life.

577
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: That way, right, That's what I was going to ask you.

578
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: You seem like You're harboring some shame about this, and

579
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to as to why you feel you

580
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: feel that shame.

581
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like like one of those things that like

582
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: I can't really tell people about it, or like I

583
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 5: just like feel like I can't because you know, well,

584
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: like I said, my one friend just really he gave

585
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: me a lot of crap about it. He still does,

586
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 5: but it's just like kind of a joke between us.

587
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 5: But it's like I know that it is a bit odd,

588
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 5: and it just feels like it's like I can't, like,

589
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 5: you know, even friends I've had for a long time.

590
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 5: I feel like it's just something I don't want to

591
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 5: bring up. But it's like it feels embarrassing, you know,

592
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 5: like makes me laugh. But it's well, the thing is.

593
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Just like, let me ask you this to you personally,

594
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: Do you believe that this negatively impacts your life in

595
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: any way shape or for him?

596
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 5: No, The only thing I ever thought of is like

597
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if they would have something weird in

598
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 5: their mouths that like, because I'm like putting it directly

599
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 5: to my nose, that like I would somehow contract some

600
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 5: weird disease or something.

601
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know about a disease. But I mean, look,

602
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: as far as you smelling your cat's breath, listen, I'm

603
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, Pete. I just watched, uh you

604
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: see that TV show about Jeffrey Dahmer a little bit? Yeah,

605
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: well that well, there's he's it's about this guy who

606
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: killed and consumed I think seventeen people. Yeah, okay, So

607
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: just I mean think about that. If you're like thinking

608
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: about your base fast line of weirdness.

609
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 5: In comparison, it's.

610
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: You smelling your cat's breath. It's not that bad. It's

611
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: not as bad as as murdering and eating people. So

612
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: I feel like as long as you are not harming

613
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: yourself or harming anyone else, I feel like you're fine.

614
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 5: Okay, It's something I could continue doing and feel like

615
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 5: decent about myself. And do you think I should ever

616
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: tell anyone else or just kind of keep it low key?

617
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you would feel better if you

618
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: told other people?

619
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: That's a good question.

620
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: I don't.

621
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

622
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: I don't.

623
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, Okay, just feel that then

624
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell anyone?

625
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 5: All right? Well? Yeah, I mean that's oh there's the questions.

626
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 5: I got some other weird stuff going on, but.

627
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: Those, I mean, listen, only if Pete, I'm telling you

628
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: dead seriously, if only only if you truly do believe,

629
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: because look, I mean, your shame grows in the shadows,

630
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, So yeah, you're shame. It's like the opposite

631
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: of them right now.

632
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, like like second nature. As we've been talking, I

633
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: I touched my cat's mouth and smelled it, and then

634
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 5: I realized that I was just talking to you. I

635
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 5: was doing it, and I thought, well, that's like, I

636
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 5: guess admitting that is. I guess I don't feel any

637
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: better worse. I guess that's just kind of like, yeah,

638
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 5: this is a thing I do.

639
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would accept it about yourself. I

640
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: mean again, as long as you're not eating people, as

641
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: long as you're not killing people, eating them and violating

642
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: their corpses, I think you're doing.

643
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, yeah, I'm not doing any of that.

644
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I think I'm doing all that. Yeah, hang

645
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: in there, Pete, Carrie, don't don't carry too much shame

646
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: about this.

647
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 5: Thank you, Gek, I appreciate that.

648
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: Sore.

649
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say to the people of

650
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: the computer before we go.

651
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 5: No, just have a good night, and yeah, don't be

652
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: ashamed of yourself.

653
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: You as well take care Pete.

654
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 5: Thank you, Grek.

655
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: But you know it's interesting is I've had people call

656
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: in about really intense, kind of heavy family melo drama

657
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: and issues with social isolation and you know, all kinds

658
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: of heavy stuff. And this guy who smells his cat's

659
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: breath is one of the saddest callers I've talked to.

660
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: Not sad, as in like it is sad what they do.

661
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I think what they do is completely fine, but they

662
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: themselves feel very sad about it, and I find that sad.

663
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Speaker 1: How sad they feel. As long as they're not killing

664
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Speaker 1: people and eating them, I think Pete is gonna be okay. Hello, Hello, Cheyenne.

665
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Speaker 1: How are you.

666
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Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good?

667
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: How are you? I am a gecko on the computer.

668
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with you, Cheyenne? Is there anything in

670
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: particular that you called in to talk about?

671
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 4: Well, not really. I was talking to the screener about

672
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Speaker 4: how hating furries is going to be like the next homophobia.

673
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: Well that's what our friend says, and I just hate

674
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Speaker 4: that she says.

675
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: That, Okay, I'm gonna read what these notes say. It

676
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: says here that you have a dislike for furries, but

677
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: you worry because you have a friend who is a

678
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: furry and that and and you claim that your friend

679
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: believes that being anti furry is akin to being homophobic.

680
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Speaker 1: Have I Have I gotten all of this correct?

681
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Speaker 4: Pretty much? I don't know if she's a furry for real,

682
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: but it's she hangs out with a bunch of them,

683
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: and I'm just.

684
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's let's let's let's get into this here.

685
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Why do you dislike furries?

686
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I just this just always

687
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: been like this thing like I don't know, I just

688
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 4: they just h there's just furries.

689
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Speaker 1: Can I can I cut in here with something? Do

690
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Speaker 1: you mind? Mh?

691
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Speaker 5: You go ahead?

692
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Speaker 1: Do you? First of all, do you shot Cheyenne? Right, Cheyenne?

693
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: Do you really hate furries?

694
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: Kind of? Like I mean, I don't know, they just

695
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: there's just something about them.

696
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: Is that like?

697
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 4: Is that like really rude?

698
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: It's well, let me, I'll tell you this. You know,

699
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: it's a really I mean hatred strong just stay that

700
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: rattles you to your core or or just strong shan.

701
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Your strong emotional reactions should be reserved to be intentionally

702
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: used for things that really matter. Yeah, so so I

703
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: feel a go ahead, tell me what you wanted to say.

704
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Speaker 4: Well, like, I mean, I don't hate them, but like

705
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't like run up to one and like

706
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 4: punch them in the face, but like I just like

707
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: if they like they're like near me and they like,

708
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 4: I would like move away and not. No, Like it's

709
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 4: not hatred, but it's not I.

710
00:48:53,000 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Don't like them, Okay, And I mean, okay, do you

711
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: expend energy in your hatred for furries?

712
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 3: M describe expand.

713
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: Like you think about them and it makes your heart

714
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: race and your blood boil and you go out of

715
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: your way to express your dislike.

716
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: No, but like if they were talking about furries, I'd

717
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Speaker 4: just be.

718
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Like, no, Okay, your friend claims to be a fairy.

719
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Speaker 4: Correct, Well, she's never like came out, but I've I've

720
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Speaker 4: gotten I feel like she is.

721
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Speaker 1: Okay. So you're living your life. You're not, as it sounds,

722
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: going out of your way to be mean to people

723
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Speaker 1: who like the furry community. You're simply doing your thing,

724
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: they're simply doing their thing. Your parallel lines moving through

725
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: the universe, not interacting with each other until your friends

726
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: reveals to you that she is a furry and now

727
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 1: there is is becomes an intersection And is this some

728
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Speaker 1: form of a I mean, what are your feelings about this?

729
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I would approve, but I

730
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: don't think I would like just closed her. But I

731
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: think I would probably distance myself away from her.

732
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm. Why do you think that is?

733
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I just grace, just give

734
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Speaker 4: me the ick?

735
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

736
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Speaker 4: Do you think it's homophobic or like it's like the

737
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: next homophobia?

738
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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's here's here's what I think. When you say

739
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Speaker 1: that it gives you the ick. I I would just,

740
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Speaker 1: I don't know, for for your own sake, Scheyanna, I

741
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Speaker 1: I would encourage you to do your best. And it's

742
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: not going to be a thing that happens overnight. It's

743
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Speaker 1: a thing that I'm working on that I think a

744
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: lot of people are working on, uh, which is to

745
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: try your best to have as positive of a perception

746
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: of things as you can, you know, this being one

747
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: of them, and you know, take a take a step

748
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: back from like the visceral reaction of your ick and

749
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: put it under a microscope for a second. I don't

750
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: know if you've done that, because you know, I'm asking

751
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: you these questions and you're having a hard time answering them.

752
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: And that's okay, but that's keying me into the fact

753
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: that you haven't really really and it's okay, but it's again,

754
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: it's key me into the fact that you haven't really

755
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: thought about why you have these feelings. Maybe you haven't

756
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: really examined them. And I think if you did, and

757
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: if you did it trying to have a positive perception,

758
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: you might surprise yourself. Does that make any sense?

759
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do that, Okay, good.

760
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 6: Shan.

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Speaker 1: Is anything else you want to say to the people

762
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?

763
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 4: Uh? Nobody? Can I ask you a question?

764
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: Sure? What's up?

765
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: Would you rather have penis sized nipples or a nipple

766
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 4: sized penis?

767
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Probably nipple sized penis, because at

768
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: least I could, like, I feel like having a penis

769
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: sized nipples, I would be harder to hide in public.

770
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

771
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, think of calling.

772
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Speaker 4: Thank you bye.

773
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put in better words what I said

774
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Speaker 1: to her because I'm thinking about it and I'm thinking

775
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: about if what I said made any sense. It made

776
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: sense to me, but I don't know if I explained it. Well,

777
00:53:52,719 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: give me two seconds. Okay, fucking furry you'll you're on

778
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: TikTok and you see two people in fur suits, and

779
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: your immediate reaction is, oh, furries are weird. Oh this

780
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: thing is weird.

781
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: You know what.

782
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: That's just your immediate reaction, And that's it makes sense,

783
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: right whatever. There's some uncanny valley thing going on there

784
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: that is easy to make fun of, easy not to like,

785
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: easy to get the eck. But what would be difficult

786
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: is to look at it and try it just fucking

787
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: and so I'm trying. I'm not trying to come at

788
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: this as if I've mastered it. This is just what

789
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is to look at it and go, Okay,

790
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: how can I force myself to have a positive perception

791
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: of this? How can I force myself off to see

792
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: that and go, you know, I'm glad those people are

793
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: having a good time. I admire the courage they have

794
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: to be themselves just you know, positive hippie stuff. How

795
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: can you force yourself into that perspective so that your

796
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: brain feels a little bit less gloomy, and that's what

797
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for Cheyenne. She navigates her her relationship with

798
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Speaker 1: people who put on Fox costumes. Hey, folks, Lyle here.

799
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Speaker 1: As you might know, I've been traveling all over the

800
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Speaker 1: United States doing live shows, which have been going very

801
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Speaker 1: very well, and I thank anyone listening who's come out

802
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: to them. And as I've been traveling around, I've been

803
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Speaker 1: recording a lot of interviews with folks wandering around the streets,

804
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Speaker 1: and I thought i'd end this podcast with an excerpt

805
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: from my street interviews in Miami. If you enjoy these

806
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: IRL phone calls want to see more, then you can

807
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: go to YouTube dot com slash Lyle forever, or just

808
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: search YouTube for being a Gecko in Miami. All right,

809
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: let's see what's going on in the streets of Miami Beach. Hello. Hi,

810
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Speaker 1: what's your name?

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Speaker 3: Man?

812
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 6: My name is Leo.

813
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, man. What are you doing out

814
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 1: here on Miami Beach today?

815
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 6: So I'm just here and enjoying today. You know, I'll

816
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 6: do some meetings with my clients.

817
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: There's meetings with their clients. Okay, what kind of clients?

818
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: So you got what kind of work do you do.

819
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 6: So, I want a concierge company. It's called Miami VP.

820
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

821
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 6: We do all car rentals, yachts, mansions, jets, jess kis,

822
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 6: you name it, we have it. We provide that service

823
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 6: at the highest level. You know, anybody who wants to

824
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 6: come to Miami and have a good time, you know

825
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 6: we're here to provide that service for them.

826
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Speaker 1: What to you is your idea of a good time

827
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Speaker 1: in Miami?

828
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Speaker 6: Client lands here. You know, we prepare everything before they

829
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Speaker 6: even get here, where you have a greeter directing them

830
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 6: to the driver. There's a driver show for taking them

831
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Speaker 6: to their hotel or their Airbnb or the mansion that

832
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 6: they booked through us. We have a chef they're cooking,

833
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 6: you know, their lunch before arrival. If they order any

834
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 6: cars exotics, the cars are already parked at the mansion

835
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 6: or their hotel. You know, we have a driver that's

836
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Speaker 6: gonna take them to dinner. You know, they want to

837
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Speaker 6: get a hotel, I mean a yacht. Yeah, we have

838
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Speaker 6: a yacht booking or if they want to go on

839
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Speaker 6: up to a club and book a table, we have

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Speaker 6: that as well. People that is gonna escort people to

841
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Speaker 6: they're designed you know service.

842
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Okay, and you personally, are you very into the high

843
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: life do you like you know, big fancy cars and yachts.

844
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: Is that is that? What does it for you in

845
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: this world?

846
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 6: I mean what does it for me is more just

847
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Speaker 6: being able to provide a great service for my clientele.

848
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Speaker 6: You know, it's not about the money more. It's more

849
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Speaker 6: about the service and the way they feel. So when

850
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Speaker 6: they come to Miami, I want them to feel like

851
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 6: they just you know, somebody comes to your house. You

852
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 6: want to want them to feel welcomed, you know, so

853
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 6: when they go back, you know, they when they do

854
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 6: come back to Miami, they think about you because you

855
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 6: felt make the felt welcome to your services and it

856
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Speaker 6: was top notched.

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Speaker 1: Has that been a constant throughout your life? You wanted

858
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Speaker 1: to provide service for other people?

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00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've always wanted to, you know, make other people,

860
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Speaker 6: you know, just provide anything, not just to make money.

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Speaker 6: You know, at first it was to make money just

862
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 6: to like pay the bills and stuff like that. But

863
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 6: once you do, once you get into for a while,

864
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 6: you understand that it's just about the servicing because that's

865
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Speaker 6: what lasts longer than just the money.

866
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Speaker 1: Interesting, So before you were doing all this high end stuff.

867
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Speaker 1: What were some other ways in your life that you

868
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Speaker 1: have provided service to the people.

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Speaker 6: I used to teach people how to dance. I used

870
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Speaker 6: to sell candy in school. I used to sell shoes Jordan's.

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you were very entrepreneurial.

872
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 6: For I'll call from Columbia, so I didn't have a

873
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 6: social security at one point to work, you know, until like, nah,

874
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Speaker 6: I finally got it. I'm able to open up a company,

875
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 6: you know, but before you can't get a job, so

876
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 6: you have to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: You came from Columbia from Columbia. When did you come

878
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Speaker 1: here from Columbia?

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00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 6: That was six?

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Speaker 1: You're six? Do you ever go back to Columbia?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: No, No is a reason why not?

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Speaker 6: Because I just got my passport now, so you know,

884
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Speaker 6: before now I could go back to Columbia.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Why did you pick Miami to come to? Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess you didn't pick it. Okay, Why do you

887
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Speaker 1: continue to stay in Miami? What do you like about it?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I traveled all over the United States, but

889
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Speaker 6: Miami to me is more like you know, the world,

890
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Speaker 6: because you have so many ethnicities here in Miami. Yeah,

891
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 6: people from Russia, from Colombia, people from Jamaica, people from Germany,

892
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 6: people from all over the world. That you know, I

893
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Speaker 6: feel like this is where the world is in Miami.

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Speaker 1: What have you learned from meeting so many people all

895
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Speaker 1: over the place?

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Speaker 6: I learned that you know that life is a journey

897
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Speaker 6: and it's forever changing, and you can't stay satisfied with

898
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Speaker 6: one thing, because then, you know, that's when you stop living.

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Speaker 6: I think you should always evolve and always want to

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Speaker 6: learn and meet new people and seeing new places so

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Speaker 6: you can keep expanding your you know, your own soul,

902
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Speaker 6: and that's how you live life.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you're you're really you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're not just saying that she was really living that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean doing like Candy and Jordan's all

906
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Speaker 1: the way up to yachts and exotic cars and like

907
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Speaker 1: even from what you're saying about it not being about

908
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: just the money, like you just care about the grind.

909
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: Like you seem like you're gonna be doing this for

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Speaker 1: the rest of your life. For the rest of my life,

911
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, not the kind of guy that wants to retire. Alright, No,

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Speaker 1: we don't retire, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we retire, our kids, kids, kids, you know, whenever

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Speaker 6: we go. But you know, I've been able to, I've

915
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Speaker 6: been able to being very blessed to being able to

916
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Speaker 6: take people like you know, Rihanna Jamie Fox as client.

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Speaker 6: So I manifested that. So I'm a big believe in

918
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Speaker 6: the law of attraction. I believe that you know, all

919
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Speaker 6: people say right place, right time, and I think that

920
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 6: that means that you never quit because the right place,

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Speaker 6: right time is gonna come. But if you quit, or

922
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Speaker 6: you take it or you procrastinate, that was the day.

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Speaker 6: And you know that's the way it just happens. So

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Speaker 6: I don't believe in giving up. I don't believe in

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Speaker 6: feeling sorry for myself or anybody else. I believe in

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Speaker 6: just making it happen. And an l doesn't mean lose,

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Speaker 6: it means a lesson. You know, if you don't try,

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Speaker 6: you were never gonna learn, and you missed one hundred

929
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Speaker 6: percent of the shots you never take. So I take

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Speaker 6: shots every single day.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel like you've developed this mentality over

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Speaker 1: the years.

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Speaker 6: Through adversity, Because the adversity that breaks you or makes

934
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Speaker 6: you're a record breaker. You know where I come from,

935
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 6: it was already broken scenario in Columbia thor world country.

936
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Speaker 6: You know, it's crazy, but coming over here, it's an opportunity.

937
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 6: There's no way, you know, you're gonna take that for granted.

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Speaker 6: You can't take opportunities for granted. You can't take people

939
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Speaker 6: that love you and truly want to help you. You know,

940
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 6: then for granted you can't. You know, you gotta just

941
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 6: be true to yourself, be real, and then things are

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01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 6: gonna happen the way they're supposed to happen.

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Speaker 1: I respect that a lot as a way of being

944
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 1: wired for life, you know, like always wanting to grow

945
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Speaker 1: and always wanting to do the absolute best you can.

946
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Speaker 1: Are there any like pain points to that. Are there

947
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: any occurrences or things that happened that that kind of

948
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Speaker 1: like make it make it hard for you to keep going?

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Speaker 6: No, I just believe in you know, I have family

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01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 6: members that passed away, you know, and I just believe

951
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 6: that the fact that I'm still alive and I've overcame adversity.

952
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,959
Speaker 6: I just cherish life at the highest level too, where

953
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 6: nothing really bothers me, you know, I'm thankful for every

954
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 6: single moment, like being in the in the highway and

955
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 6: maybe you miss an exit, maybe you're about to be

956
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 6: late to something that you need to be on time to.

957
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 6: But it's avery direction from God. Maybe if you would

958
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 6: have took the right direction, you would have crashed or

959
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 6: something would have happened, you know. So you just let

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01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 6: it go, because there's nothing good comes from being negative

961
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 6: or like being in sorrow or in a dark, dark moment,

962
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 6: you know, So you just let it go and just

963
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 6: keep pushing forward.

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Speaker 1: And then, of course what you said about the exact thing.

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Speaker 1: Any time I get like pissed off about something or

966
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Speaker 1: I feel like I made a mistake, you know, like

967
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: the timelines are are mysterious and in red, and so

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01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: you never know what could have happened.

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 6: I just I just I just believe in the law

970
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 6: of attraction so much that you know, nothing bothers me.

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Speaker 6: Things that used to bother me don't bother me anymore.

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Speaker 1: What used to bother you?

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01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 6: The way people, the way people like communicated with each other.

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01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 6: Now I'm just like, Okay, that's that's how they are.

975
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 6: And you can't really force anything upon anybody.

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: The people that you're surrounded with in life, your friends

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Speaker 1: and family, do they have a similar mindset as you

978
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: now they.

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Speaker 6: Do, Yes, because I've cut a lot of people off

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01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 6: that didn't and I understood that if I didn't choose that,

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 6: I was always gonna remain. Was that hard for you, Yes,

982
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 6: of course, yeah, because you know, you grew up with

983
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 6: these people. You love them, you done you know, play

984
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 6: video games with them, you play basketball with them, you

985
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 6: want championships with them. But they chose to stay in

986
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 6: a different mindset. They don't want to progress or grow

987
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 6: or to get to the next level as much as

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Speaker 6: I do. Because obviously we didn't come from the same scenario.

989
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 6: We didn't start at the same start line.

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01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 6: I just happen to come here from a different country

992
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 6: where it was like really bad, you know, and I

993
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 6: have a different gold in life. You know, it's not

994
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 6: the goal is not about you know, getting all the

995
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 6: money in the world and stuff like that. It's about

996
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 6: being able to take care of those people who are

997
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 6: around you while you're here and after that, you know.

998
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: What's your goal for the future. Are you trying to

999
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: just scale this luxury yacht thing or and there's other

1000
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: like businesses that you want to try.

1001
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 6: So we're actually that another I love that question because

1002
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 6: we're actually launching an app that's gonna be worldwide. It's

1003
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 6: called members Only. You're gonna be able to book cars, yachts, mansions, jets, events,

1004
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 6: But you got to be a member only if you

1005
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 6: want to get the lowest costs possible. So members get

1006
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 6: the lowest costs possible. Non members they could book like

1007
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 6: regular you know members, regular clients, they could just book.

1008
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 6: But if you do get the membership, you get it

1009
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 6: with the NFT and you also get the wholesale access

1010
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 6: to you know, the services that you want to book

1011
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 6: that you usually are usually booking, you know, instead of

1012
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 6: you know, having the broken in the middle, you're automatically

1013
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 6: booking directly do the owner.

1014
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: Now, how does one become a member? Do you have

1015
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: to be famous or something or.

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01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 6: No, you just got to have you know, the first

1017
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 6: the first tier that were starting it off is that

1018
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 6: ten thousand dollars, right, and that gives you access to

1019
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 6: the whole sell everything, the yachts, the mansions, the cars.

1020
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 6: Not waiting in line at the club, you know, reservations,

1021
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 6: you know, walk right in, you don't have to wait.

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Speaker 1: You know, the top somebody comes in who's spent ten

1023
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, stay in the club, and part of the

1024
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: experience is walking past the people that didn't and like,

1025
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: do they they get it? Do they like look at

1026
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: them like, man, those fucking rich people just.

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Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes that's what it's but that's what feeds

1028
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 6: the ego. It's really like the ego that you're feeding.

1029
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: How what's your relationship like with your ego?

1030
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 6: I don't have an ego no more. I used to

1031
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 6: have a huge ego.

1032
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: These people that the people that you service, do you

1033
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: see like a lot of ego?

1034
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 6: No, you would think that the people that have a

1035
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 6: lot of money are the most egoistic. They're actually the

1036
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 6: most humblest people.

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01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: Interesting.

1038
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 6: They actually want to help everybody else. Well everybody else

1039
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 6: is looking at them as, oh, you know whatever, this

1040
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 6: rich person. You know, they're really like, hey, I hope

1041
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 6: I can help you out, but I'm on my way

1042
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 6: to having some fun, you know. But there's no there's

1043
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 6: no ego when it comes to some people are But

1044
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 6: the people that I deal with, you know, they're not.

1045
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Speaker 1: What's your name again, man, my name is Leo. Leo.

1046
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you, man. Anything else you want

1047
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?

1048
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 6: I just want to say, trust God and stay positive.

1049
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 6: Never let your dreams go. Never let anybody stop you

1050
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 6: from achieving your goal, even if it sounds crazy to them.

1051
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 6: Keep going, never stop, and then you're gonna be at

1052
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 6: the right place at the right time. And that's what's

1053
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 6: gonna do it for you. And one day you know

1054
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 6: you're gonna achieve all the dreams that you ever thought

1055
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 6: of achieving. So that's my message to the world. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks lem man, appreciate it.

1057
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 6: No, I appreciate you. My Instagram is at my A

1058
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Speaker 6: V I P following me ia.

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Speaker 1: Just at my av av That's pretty. That's like a

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Speaker 1: pretty good hand.

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Speaker 6: That's perfect.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that would be taken. You would have

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Speaker 1: to put like a sixty nine or an underscore. Yeah, right, am,

1064
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Speaker 1: I A check you out. One day. Maybe I'll get

1065
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: a yacht from you.

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Speaker 6: I hope, he thinks, well, I hope you're doing. We

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Speaker 6: take a picture on the boat with the outf for that.

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Speaker 6: You got a beautiful outfit.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful. Thank you man, Hey, take earlier, take thank you

1070
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Speaker 1: want to come be on the thing, goes on the line,

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Speaker 1: taking phone calls every

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Speaker 6: Night, goes, I was teaching you your life,